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No. 1305216
>>1305184Ntayrt but
>Not only are they just plain bad at it Not all of them are, definitely have been with men who made me orgasm versus selfish bfs with broken dicks. Just because you wait and vet doesn't mean shit, emotional connection is a psyop to get women invested in mediocre dick lest they feel guilty and shallow to end things when their physical needs are being unmet.
>they'll spread rumors about you at bestThey do this as a default already just to impress their peers. Being modest won't save you from a scrote's gossip mill.
And so what if he does? Call him ugly and deny it lmaoooo. Fucking kiss and tells.
>and leak nudes and sex vids at worstIf you're sending nudes and sex videos in 2022, then that is partially on you. On the flipside, unless you will be some kind of important celebrity, absolutely no one will care. The internet is too saturated with porn now for grainy amateur nudes to have any notice or value. Not to mention revenge porn laws in some developed countries if it really does cause tangible harm.
>>1305190Lmao, anon you have to throw men a crumb these days unless you really are pandering to the most desperate denominator who is likely too gross to consider fucking in the first place. Men will still give you attention and dates after you have sex with them unless you're insufferable and/or bad at sex yourself.
Spin a lot of plates if the radio silence period makes you insecure, they all come crawling back with enough ignoring.
>>1305161They're losers without kid and animal fucking factored in. The modern scrote is useless, and for the most part, obsolete. They're really only good for entertainment and the occassional date from their wagecuck bux as most cannot even support themselves without a woman's income.
No. 1305245
>>1305216moid bait, but I'll take it:
giving a man sex is a surefire way to make him lose all respect for you, feel like he "won" and start discarding you. men today see women who allow them to fuck them as used dumpsters, soiled goods, a fire hydrant they pissed on
No. 1305265
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>>1305261YES!!! i am very interested and i would regularly post.
No. 1305324
>>1305265>>1305267>>1305270Here you go nonnies
>>>/ot/1305322>>1305288Tried CTRL+F it there but could not find it
>>1305300Hm.
No. 1305353
I'm saging because it feels so handmaideny to write this and goes against my usual rhetoric, but I found a male friends online accounts and they were nothing but good/neutral (he didn't share, I just had a phase where I invaded the online privacy of everyone I knew IRL if I could). Posts in ornithology/birdwatching forums, had an account for an old pop star fan page and would gush about the music and lyrics and how meaningful they were (he's got terrible taste), shared pictures of the vegetables he's grown, asking online about a weird rash he has, it was all such harmless stuff. Though he was raised by his gran and mom, both strong women and no paternal presence in his life, no doubt that's a factor. And it seems he has a lack of awareness of spaces like imageboards, reddit and twitter.
I'm just trying to say that I do think there are men out there who occupy themselves with nice, productive things and don't think harmful thoughts. It's maybe 1-2% but I'd say avoid the rest, some men are reasonably safe to be loved as you could a woman, I do have hope.
No. 1305380
>>1305222So then don't have sex with a random. Have sex with someone who you talk to and get to like but for whom you don't want a deep relationship with. Not every sexual partner requires marriage or a relationship.
>>1305223For being about "not wanting to drag others down" you seem awful invested in trying to judge my self esteem?
Maybe my sexual relationships with men do not define my entire personhood and I have bigger things to be proud of than my emotional commitment to the same dick for a lifetime.
If I choose not to frame having had sex with men as a personal failure then what's it to you? I had fun and it harmed nobody, not even myself because I was responsible and did not consent to anything I was not ready for. Absolutely no one irl thinks that way about me because my history and business are my own (until of course I divulge it on anonymous forums to reassure other anons that things will be okay and get insulted by other women for it).
>>1305228I think you're the one being stealthily misogynistic.
Women aren't chewed pieces of gum with issues just because they have fucked men and find a pleasure in it that you do not.
>>1305232For how many posts are you gonna force this strawman that not requiring a relationship with a scrote to have sex=fucking literal strangers?
>>1305245>man sex is a surefire way to make him lose all respect for youGood thing my world doesn't crash and burn when a man has a doo doo opinion about me…!
>b-but he will discard you Quit chasing men. Men will be drawn to you if you are someone worth having. I do not experience these problems you insist must happen.
No. 1305395
>>1305386Nah.
>>1305388>do you want the men you actually fuck to have a 'doo doo' opinion of you?I'm just saying that the ones who might have had that opinion and developed some kind of disrespectful view of me, evidently were not worth sweating over or remembering. It's really sad how you think women automatically lose when they are intimate with men, must call back to some kind of repressed purity belief. Not every sexual relationship ends that way anyways.
>and in the end he's gonna feel rewarded and superiorGood for him? He wouldn't actually be superior to me lmao and I guess if he considers it a prize then good???
If a man is so negative about what you do in your intimate life, then he is weak and powerless which is why his last line of attack is to mentally make you feel like shit. This can happen even with a boyfriend or a husband. All women need a thicker skin if they do not plan to be celibate for their entire lives.
No. 1305407
>>1305400>putting herself in situations with men she didn’t really know….but she did not ever say go outside and fuck the nearest man you do not know.
And to counter your point: Statistically, women are more likely to be hurt or murdered by men who they
do know such as a relative or spouse. Anon, it's a silly numbers game argument. You can "date" someone and still have no formal relationship with them.
She was not being aggressive btw, but you guys are especially with the personal attacks.
No. 1305416
>>1305410Anon I’m not attacking her. She was however attacking actual rape
victims here
>> I had fun and it harmed nobody, not even myself because I was responsible and did not consent to anything I was not ready for. Getting to know someone allows you the chance to see red flags ahead of time. It lets you feel out a person. Especially in todays reproductive climate that stuff is important. She came in shaming and then gets butthurt when she’s not met with peace and love.
She even admits she’s not even doing hookups but wants to sound sexual right here
>> Have sex with someone who you talk to and get to like but for whom you don't want a deep relationship with. Not every sexual partner requires marriage or a relationship. Which means she missed the point in the first place and attacked women because she got ass mad
>> Just because you wait and vet doesn't mean shit, emotional connection is a psyop to get women invested in mediocre dick lest they feel guilty and shallow to end things when their physical needs are being unmet.Again how was she not attacking women for their feelings with above? I can keep pulling examples. Anon wants to be the boss babe and ignore the power and culture difference between female and male relationships. Congrats she can be the “cool girl” then and keep feeling conned by emotional investment while she wonders why all her relationships stay shallow.
No. 1305418
>>1305416>Anon I’m not attacking her. She was however attacking actual rape victims here What the FUCK no I did NOT do that? How did I even "shame" you?
It's not even worth continuing if you're gonna act this schizo and pretend no one who's replied to me hasn't been aggro too–which I do not care about on lolcow–but just don't play
victim when anons get spicy with you back.
>>Just because you wait and vet doesn't mean shit, emotional connection is a psyop to get women invested in mediocre dick lest they feel guilty and shallow to end things when their physical needs are being unmet.This is the big "attack" and "shame" I put on you? How is this even personal towards anyone unless it struck a nerve? Go be with your oneitis Nigel anon, idgaf.
No. 1305430
>>1305425+1
The only way to go back is to go into coma and never wake up.
When you know what they think, you'll never forget.
No. 1305451
>>1305418Also why are you implying I’m a rape
victim? Are you saying this because you think the only people not “sexually liberated” are rape
victims to you who are just bitter because one bad man? The fuck anon?
The way you worded it was a clear prode at women with bad exps. Don’t play coy. You talk like a Twitter tard with your “spicy takes” and it doesn’t hide your clear internalized sexism and insecurity issues with your own choices.
No. 1305466
>>1305388I agree with you, but as bad as feeling humiliated is, there're also more "practical" risks, a man could smear your reputation and consequently ruin your social life and even your professional life, what
>>1305184 said really. Framing it just as a matter of "oh you have no self esteem" is so alienated.
>>1305186That's a dog.
No. 1305557
>>1305451>Also why are you implying I’m a rape victim? Why are you bringing rape into this at all? Where did you get from any of those posts that there was shaming rape
victims or that anyone thought you were a rape
victim?
Where was it argued that the only women who exist are the "sexually liberated" or "the raped"?
It's too much to keep up with your reaches bouncing all over the place.
No. 1305612
>>1305572>If you think developing feelings or placing emotion/seriousness into sex is badMaybe the point wasn't that it was all bad, but that too often emotions involving sex are used as a tool to manipulate women to do what men want anyway and convince them to stay in one-sided relationships that are doomed regardless. It shouldn't be regarded as bad when women also want to compartmentalize their emotions from sex not only to guard their feelings or property, but to seek out their physical needs without committing to the first scrote they have in bed. If they want to mess around? Then they deserve as much freedom to do so without consequence the same as men are awarded. As much as anons want to reeee about Twitter takes and sexual liberation, some old feminists fought very hard against the stigmatization of women having sex so that we could have choices between who we pick as lifelong partners and who we want in our lives temporarily.
It's just weird how some anons think celibacy is a reasonable answer? Like yeah, men suck and if not dealing with them outweighs any gratification you could have had then fine. But shaming women for having physical needs? Hard pass, sorry.
No. 1305641
>>1305612Anon was ignoring that we can never pose the risk scrotes do. You can’t be a scrote. He can choke you to death and call it a sex game and get away with it. You’re ignoring that anons weren’t even shitting on having sex with men. We are shitting on her retard I’m the true power controller take. They said men weren’t worth see x,y,x. Then anon came in with a shitty hair brain take ignoring all the dangers to women, misrepresenting herself in the process and got mad when other farmers pointed out that your tune is self important and idealistic. Go be the “cool girl”, but if anything they seem to be the one missing the grey zones and the ability to respect other people’s choices but
>>RARA I fuck men I don’t think are worth my time long term woooo. They could murder me and get no prison time woo. I could get pregnant and die woo. I can get a std and get sick woo. So much better than a toy yeah?
Anon had a shit take and you don’t need to twist her struggle defenses to make what she said not shitty.