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No. 1218942

This is a thread for CPTSD and PTSD diagnosed members to share our experiences, struggles, and successes relating to these disorders.
If the bpdfags can have one so can we.

No. 1218946

Does anyone else have trouble making new friends? My old friends from before the trauma I'm fine with but I'm scared of being vunerable with strangers.

No. 1218948

Is there overlap between being a bpdfag and having cptsd? I got diagnosed with BPD by a male psychiatrist and the female psychiatrist I got assigned by the state said it's more likely I have cptsd. So I'm not really sure what I have lol

No. 1218950

>>1218948
female cptsd sufferers are often incorrectly labelled as bpd thanks to sexism

No. 1218953

i can't even create art anymore because i just fucking criticize myself the whole time. what's wrong with my brain

No. 1218977

>>1218953
This has been my struggle my whole life, yet I went to college for art. I always think about what I could have been without cptsd.
>Family put pressure on me to share my art with them since a young age, over time it shut me down
>I remember my dad screaming at child me for being too shy to sing a karaoke game he bought me. I remember crying because I wanted to sing for him but I didn't know the song. I Knew I could never explain that to him because he was irrational and terrifying.
>Never felt safe to sing or make art around family again.
>Tried to do graphic design in college but got too scared to actually make a portfolio to be judged by others so I did art instead
>lived for approval from professors but was too afraid to ever truly be myself and get lost in a process
>Only did bare minimum to graduate. Final work to display for a show was random shit.
>I have no idea who I am or what I'm good at, all I know is that I love drawing the human body and one professor told me I was one of the best students he ever had
>didn't realize I was traumatized until the end of college when I was diagnosed


And here I am. An adult child who has emotional blocks around art, which I majored in. I have an iPad and an apple pencil and I struggle to use it. I feel like I have the most expression when I make songs, oddly enough.

No. 1218989

Female socialization is basically cptsd

No. 1219003

>>1218989
Agreed

No. 1219006

>>1218953
>>1218977
Wow, we’re living similar lives in different parts of the world huh. My parents were not supportive of my hobby though. In fact i abandoned drawing from the ages of 12 to 18. Occasionally drawing in secret from time to time. I lived in a cult, drawing was forbidden so kids tore up my sketches, accused me of drawing nude girls, challenging god. My brother and mom tried to steer me away my brother beat me up when i was 16 for going back into drawing. He’s a wannabe artist now with toddler like skills and my family says i’m mimicking him lol. Its pretty painful

No. 1219008

my ptsd is making it hard to function.
i just freeze up and can't do anything for days at a time. all i can think about is how scared i am. i can be in my house alone with all doors locked and still be afraid my rapist is somehow going to be in the hallway or appear out of nowhere no matter how irrational it is. i'm trying to seek therapy but it's hard when my intense paranoia is met with "well if your coping mechanisms help just keep doing them". it's been almost 4 years i want to get better even though i know it's likely impossible.
do any other nonnies have this extreme paranoia as well

No. 1219027

>>1218977
wow, are we the same person? i had the same experience but programming. i loved it as a kid but shitty coworkers made me lose my passion and my final grades were shit because i just didn't care anymore.

No. 1219028

>>1219006
fuck nonny i'm sorry..

No. 1219029

I'm always paranoid that someone is watching/stalking me. I had over-obsessive suitors, friends and teachers in highschool as well as people who would monitor my internet history, secret accounts ect. so I never feel safe on places other than lolcow.

No. 1219037

Is this the same anon that's been spamming mental health threads lately, give it a rest it's so obvious it's some scrote trying to farm grief.

No. 1219041

>>1218950
This. I would honestly take the BPD diagnosis with a grain of salt especially if it came from a male psych.

No. 1219042

>>1219028
Yeah after i got beaten up everything that ever happened that i took on in silence all came crashing down and i had a mental break down that lasted 2 and 1/2 years i’m pretty sure i was soulless for that duration of my life kek and now after 3 years from me snapping out of it i’m now here and gathering back the pieces lol. Of course it’s not all about my hobby there are other things like my gender being a problem for them for some damn reason and not being treated like a human being with dignity in general. But i’m so focused and angry at the drawing thing for some reason

No. 1219046

I read the symptoms of cptsd and it sounds like how I used to be. I'm a lot happier but at the same time not. I still don't have an identity. How do people build identities? HOnestly sometimes it seems like people just pick something and conform to that. But my brain is broken what do I know

No. 1219050

>>1219046
People with cptsd actually do have a solid sense of identity, it can just be fragmented - it's bpd that is characterized with having no identity and copying other's traits

No. 1219069

>>1219050
Things are not so black and white, it varies from person to person. Experience to experience

No. 1219080

>>1219050
There's also avoidant personality disorder which leaves people struggling with an identity. It's not always bpd.

No. 1219421

only thing I feel safe saying is that I feel sympathy for bpds but it actually royally ticks me off that they act like me shutting down and crying is in any way comparable to their value devalue cycle and verbal abuse. I don't trust a single fucker who says bpd and cptsd are the same, it's always,, ALLLWAYS bpd ppl saying it and speaking over us which. pretty much tracks with the behavior. I don't hate you but I have to keep a safe distance for my own safety. if that pisses you off then that's on you, I've had enough of my boundaries being stomped on my entire life, it's all I have now.

No. 1219429

>>1219421
People with bpd traits scare me so much. I dunno why, I think its their eyes. The way you can see them size you up and decide if they want to emulate your life or not.

No. 1219433

I remember someone suggesting on cc that I might have cptsd instead of bpd due to my traumatic childhood, but I do not know if it makes any difference. Having a different diagnosis would surely be nicer from a medical stigma standpoint, but that's about it. I have read opinions of cptsd being misdiagnosed a lot as bpd in women, I wonder if it is true.

No. 1219445

>>1219433
I got a BPD diagnosis after a particularly bad breakdown when I was like 19 but more recently I was diagnosed with CPTSD by someone I was working with for a while. My childhood was pretty messed up too.

No. 1219463

>>1219445
Makes you wonder do these mental health professionals really know what they're talking about? I've seen so many conflicting diagnoses from different doctors

No. 1219503

>>1219429
Same, I've been mistreated by enough of them under the guise of "wow we are so similar" that now I am fed up and I don't care any more if they think I'm a cunt for it. I want to be happy, even if it takes me longer than non-traumatized people

No. 1219549

thank you to the beautiful nonnie who made this thread, im so grateful to see it. I feel like people only ever talk about BPD and how its the worst mental illness to have even though CPTSD shares so many traits with it and no one ever talks about it and there is so much less research done into it

No. 1219568

Does anyone find it hard to get back into life? I feel like i am not allowed to enjoy activities pre-trauma. So i don’t do them. I genuinely don’t give myself the permission to play a vidya or watch a movie or even something as simple as a hobby because of the way my abuser targeted those activities precisely and everytime i try to have fun or something i just remember them. I hate this, i miss just genuinely consuming media without any guilt or thinking its above me

No. 1219585

>>1219429
I've had men suggest I have BPD but I see it more as just things effect me very deeply. When a man abuses me emotionally I want to punish him for it because I want him to feel what I feel. It seems pretty reasonable to me Idk. Not my fault men don't have empathy, literally every meltdown can be avoided by men simply understanding how emotionally taxing their presence can be and how deeply their actions and words effect us. A guy who constantly cheats and abuses women accused me of having BPD. Yeah, maybe, I believe that I have the right not to be abused how about that ?

No. 1219631

>>1219585
>A guy who constantly cheats and abuses women accused me of having BPD.
That's what I hate about all of these unsubstantiated BPD accusation, male rage is always justified but no matter how much evil is done to a woman, she has to stay docile otherwise she's an evil bpd-chan and "it's as much as his fault as yours if he hurts you because you provoked him with your anger"

No. 1219726

i've been having intense CPTSD symptoms for over a decade due being raised by a narc sociopath father and having to witness my mom getting abused for basically my entire childhood. was doing pretty bad, but i went on quetiapine a few months ago and it was a total game changer. therapy was helping too i guess, but very slowly, and it seemed like my brain was getting hijacked by my emotions on a daily basis in a way that made it difficult to function. quetiapine has really helped to stabilize me in a way that SSRIs were never able to, my racing thoughts and negative rumination are gone thank god

No. 1219879

>>1219568
Same, I just sit on my phone :( I really want to get back into those activities but just can't for some reason.

No. 1219901

I've always wondered if I actually have cptsd. I went to a psychiatrist briefly because I was having a lot of trouble with stress, nausea, tics and very frequent panic attacks (almost looping at times), and at first I was (quickly) diagnosed with anorexia nervosa (due to me not eating because of the nausea) but then it was changed to "some sort of anxiety-related disorder" but then I quit therapy because I couldn't afford it anymore. So I've always though I just had anxiety but I've also always thought that I had symptoms that were way too strong for simple anxiety… are there differences or symptoms that overlap?
Beside the symptoms that surfaced during my teenage years, I've always had mental "blocks" and paranoias that (I assume) stem from my mentally ill, unstable and controlling relatives.

No. 1219983

>>1219006
My (muslim) family was exactly the same. I struggle to draw as an adult too

No. 1219999

>>1219983
Yeah, sorry anon. It sucks. My family is muslim too, i just called it a cult instead of mentioning what religion it is because i didn’t want to derail the thread or start a discussion about religions lol just wanna be heard purely on a personal level rather than a religious experience. I have seen muslims that don’t stomp on their kids personhood so i don’t blame it entirely on the religion, my family happened to be abusive and bitter and they used their shitty religion to justify being shitty. also I genuinely view it as a cult anyways lol

No. 1220696

>>1219999
How are women treated in the Muslim religion nonnie?

No. 1220703

>>1219429
Uh wtf anon I’m a bpdfag myself and I’ve got no idea what you’re talking about. Some of you guys speak about this like it’s a universal bpd thing. Not all bpdfags have the lack of identity. It would probably be helpful to avoid these types of people that have traumatized you if you were able to identify more about what past “bpd” people have done and if it’s really bpd or more like narcissistic abuse. Bpd doesn’t excuse things like abusive behavior. I personally have only been comfortable with breaking down emotionally with my family or my ex boyfriends; not all of us are low functioning druggies that are raging at the gas station attendant for not having cigs kek. Ik a lot of artfags like LC and generally speaking art circles are full of crazies with off the chart narcissism and victim complexes.

No. 1220757

sometimes it's really hard to tell whether I suffer from cptsd on top of being bipolar and bpd or whether that's what I actually suffer from. the american dsm does not have it. i know my childhood trauma led up to what I am currently dx'ed with and it seems consistent with the criteria but sometimes I wonder if it's wrong. with the bipolar it's there, see the cycling mood, after hearing about cptsd I've been iffy

personal question, feel free not to answer, do any cptsd anons self harm?

No. 1220761

>>1220757
I have, but it is never, never means to get attention or my way. I liken it to letting steam off of a screaming kettle to stop it from exploding. Would rather hurt myself in small ways to get by than do something more drastic and hurt those I love too, but it's infrequent and I never mention it

No. 1220808

>>1220761
yeah sometimes I wonder with mine being more intermittent if it's really bpd self harm or not. then again there's no model of consistency for how often bpd self harm has to be either. I feel like it's still not mild enough to be only related to cptsd symptoms though

the overlap is enough to make it difficult to tell on top of the US dsm not containing it. i wouldn't say I do it for attention as much as I do it wanting someone to either notice I'm not okay, or to more obviously alleviate my pain

No. 1220908

>>1219726
An anti-psychotic really helped me as well. I absolutely hate medication so for me to say something helped me is a big deal. It was basically a miracle when I was very unwell. I still really want to come off it though as I'm in a much better place now and since being medicated I've been able to learn a lot of coping skills and practice them daily.

No. 1221183

>>1220757
yeah, I've just used it as a coping mechanism for 8 years or so. pretty embarrassing as an adult, and I woke up in the ER one day kicking and screaming. my doctors seem to think that was a manic episode. so they're treating me for bipolar but I'm not sure if that's official yet.

No. 1222230

>>1220808
CPTSD is NOT mild. It's just internal bad coping versus external. It destroys you, makes you terrified to move on and try things, and cripples you with the inability to cope with life in general. I'd say a big difference is whether you can point to a lot of your episodes being from emotional triggers, versus seemingly random. There's a big difference between a cry for help and acting out for attention, I think.

No. 1223341

Do you guys ever get manic with antidepressants? Is that part of cptsd?

No. 1223373

>>1223341
It can definitely be a symptom of bipolar but also could be an adverse reaction. I think there are some antidepressants that are less likely to cause mania as a side effect iirc but I'm not sure which.

No. 1223391

Are any of you starting from square zero later in life? I feel so alienated and alone. I’ve only just managed to get four thousand dollars into savings by starving myself while working retail. It feels like there is this membrane that separates me from other people and these unspoken rules and contracts, and basic facets of life. I have been dissociating on a chronic basis for over a decade. Interfacing with reality feels so murky and distant.
I don’t understand how to bridge the divide between the inner world and real life. I don’t feel real.

No. 1223392

>>1223391
Me too anon, try zoloft it helped a little bit
Still don't feel like interacting with the real world though

No. 1223413

>>1222230
>it destroys you, makes you terrified to move on and try things, and cripples you with the inability to cope with life in general
I do have an extreme fear of failure and often don't want to do things or don't end up committing

>I'd say a big difference is whether you can point to a lot of your episodes being from emotional triggers, versus seemingly random

it seems like it's been both, both being under duress or just random bouts of sadness
then again it's constantly like I'm under duress so that would be implying I was healthy enough to have a long string of good days

No. 1223539

Does anyone else struggle with passing out and losing their hearing and vision? When I go grocery shopping or other crowded areas, I sometimes begin to feel a blackout coming from internal freaking out. I begin to pass out, first losing my vision and then my hearing and have had to just curl up in a ball. I've talked to two different psychiatrists who both diagnosed me with CPTSD for other reasons, but this is the one thing they didn't know how to comment on.

No. 1223541

nonnie, have you spoken to a doctor or tried medication at all? I know it doesn't always work for everyone, but I agree with a previous anon that sometimes medication like zoloft can help you stabilize and get back on track. sending love- you aren't alone.

No. 1223557

I'm so tired of holding on, I feel like things will never get better. It only gets worse. I sometimes wish I could go fully crazy so that people could see it and stop expecting me to be normal. I'm so tired of appearing normal, but falling apart inside. Thank you for making this thread. It's a sad, but comforting read.
>>1223391
I know what you mean, I'm in a similar situation. I feel like watching the world from the outside I can see exactly how it all works, but when I try to put myself in that world I just can't make myself fit.

No. 1223574

>>1223413
At first it's really hard to tell the difference to be honest

No. 1223657

>>1223539
I dont feel like blacking out or anything, but i feel my vision gets heavily blurry, i can’t hear anything (like how you hear in water almost) and i speed up whatever i’m doing so i can get the hell out

No. 1223708

It feels like the moment I let my guard down and breathe something new happens to reinforce my negative perceptions of the world

No. 1223724

>>1223391
I'm there with you anon. I'm trying to reconnect with my real world self, I feel like my whole adult life was created on autopilot, and I woke up this year to realise I don't want any of what I built and I have to start over.
I am listening to my intuition for the first time instead of taking the easiest, safest path and everyone probably thinks I'm having a breakdown but I've never felt so purposeful.

No. 1223730

>>1223708
Yeah, or the second I put myself out there and try something it goes to shit and I wonder why I bother, and it's clearly my fault that I'm a failure, then it takes months to recover.

God I am such a fucking lover. I had so much going for me.

No. 1223736

>>1223557
>I'm so tired of holding on, I feel like things will never get better. It only gets worse. I sometimes wish I could go fully crazy so that people could see it and stop expecting me to be normal. I'm so tired of appearing normal, but falling apart inside.
I feel this with every fiber of my being. I hate it so much. I'm normally not one for hugs but I want to give you a hug.

No. 1223756

>>1223724
I’m experiencing exactly the same thing. Although this happened back in 2020, and i’m still figuring out shit like a child 2 years later. It’s hard as fuck

No. 1223972

I went to visit my dad's family who they cut off years and years ago. My dad is a narcissist so I assumed they were the sane ones. I was so, so wrong. They're the exact same as he is.. the whole time I felt on edge. They just associated us (as children) with our father and cut us out as well which was so, so wrong. They blamed me and my sisters for not reaching out earlier. (Wtf? We were kids.) I was expecting a great reconciliation but no such luck. Guess I'll have to live with it.

No. 1225344

Just wanted to let you all know what helped me the most. I used to be so stuck in an emotional state where I believed I was worthless and unable to function like other people due to my past abuse. I was seeking counseling / therapy for ~9 years and still had this inner wound that controlled my entire worldview and view of myself. I changed it up and seeked therapy specifically for trauma. 2 years of trauma focused therapy changed everything. Now I have done things that I once thought was actually impossible for me. I have had more progress in the last 2 years than I have ever had. CBT helped to an extent with self awareness and recognizing harmful thoughts, but I needed something more. Get the help you can afford as anything is better than nothing, but if possible get a professional who specifically treats trauma.

No. 2524976

Just found out my mother frames the fights we had as me having poor manners and lacking respect. She was an alcoholic who told me I was ugly and that she couldn't even look at me at the age of like 8. She told me I'm a bad person in elementary school and would go days without talking to me. I'm an adult now, yet finding out how she's twisting the narrative is enough to make me spiral. I'll never be free. I'll never be free.

No. 2530698

Bpd = cptsd = bpd

No. 2530699

I wish my life would end.

No. 2530701

>>2530698
…how? isnt cptsd when youre so traumatized you basically die inside and shut down and bpd is when youre so desperate for attention and stimulation you do impulsive crazy shit? i dont get it

No. 2530703

What's the difference between PTSD and CPTSD?

No. 2530714

>>2530703
CPTSD is like PTSDx10000

No. 2530821

>>2530703
I always saw it as
>PTSD = out of it and coping
E.g. army vet who returned back home
>CPTSD = out of it but still in the culture that made it happen
E.g. rape survivor still living in a misogynistic world where rape could happen again, she can't even go online without moids threatening women with rape, TV shows have women raped as a plot point, moids spam porn, no escape from the "not if but when" OCD spiral

>>2530698
I actually kind of agree because I see cluster Bs as "abused child who acts out and grew up into an adult who just mimics and replays the abuse because that child never got to grow up in a normal environment and has no idea what being normal even is." And that's exactly why certain bpds are so dangerous even if they don't mean to be.

No. 2530840

>>2530703
One time incident like a car accident vs long time incident like sex trafficking or prisoner of war iirc. I see logs of people online only refer to CPTSD in terms of just being neglected by their parents but I personally think that's something different.

No. 2530863

>>2530840
Apparently only emotional neglect (like lack of physical affection and emotional support) can cause CPTSD too because there's no one you feel safe going to when you need help. It's weird that something like neglect to more severe trauma can cause the same symptoms but I guess the symptoms might vary in severity. I think creating different support groups based on the type of trauma faced would be helpful because then you would have people comparing trauma and thinking that other people had it worse.

No. 2530991

>>2530701
You = low iq = too much on reddit and lolcow.farms
>>2530821
100% of bpds have been raped
100% of veterans have raped
See a pattern? It’s almost as if bpd is female ptsd but selfhating women HAVE to hate bpd . Just watch girl interrupted, where the protagonist literally was a victim of child grooming but instead of being seen as a victim she’s blamed as the denominator.

Bpd is not a bad disorder and the stereotypes about it are based on idiots who think every traumatized women are out to get you, when most bpds are just victims of society and will keep to themselves.

No. 2530994

>>2530991
i was raped and i've never been impulsive, manipulative or narcissistic. most veterans aren't like that too, unless triggered. same for me. do not try to claim another label just to avoid stigma.

No. 2531005

>>2530994
Bpd =/= manipulative or narcissistic.
Cptsd = bpd
And cptsd =/= ptsd
You want to compare yourself to a veteran who has raped civilians? Be my guest, but you’re exactly the problem why women don’t take psychologists seriously. You do realize “bippies” are considered loathsome by their therapists because therapists cannot treat chronically traumatized people. They literally admit that it’s easier to help someone process a car accident than a woman who has gone through multiple rapes, institutionalized youth care, parental abusive and whatever neurological divergence problem they have going on that would still eb there even without the trauma. Aka the woman society hates. So you better stop villainizing a diagnosis that consist of women that are like yourself

No. 2531009

>>2531005
nah don't group me with bippies, or group traumatized people with bippies. being traumatized isn't an excuse to do the same to others like they do. actually i keep it to myself and only chimp out whenever i remember too much, i'm not interested in farming attention like bippies, even from their psychologists.

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>>2531005
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All of the symptoms contradicted themselves, there’s not a single symptom that doesn’t overlap with the other. Cptsd and bpd are one and the same, now the mistake is to group bpd with cluster b, but it’s no wonder that it has been, look at how hateful the retards on this female only (supposedly) are about bpds. Even though it’s our ptsd. ‘Nyways I am not gonna die on this hill that ptsd is not a misogynist diagnosis, supposedly it’s reserved only for male veterans, but lmfao. They can always choose to not go to iraq and rape their women but lol they had to fight for our freedom. (Psychopat men eww)

No. 2531015

>>2531009
Yeah good for you. Lump yourself in with veterans who killed and raped women. Is that what you’d rather want? You’re so braindead.

No. 2531016

>>2531015
so BPD is le epic feminist diagnosis and PTSD is for bad rapist men? holy fuck bippies try to not claim labels or have bullshit takes challenge. don't even know what are you trying to claim, i've known women diagnosed with PTSD for rape cases like me, not BPD because you have to be specially shitty to get that diagnosis.

No. 2531017

>>2531005
Nta but look…you can be both a victim and an abuser. Contrary to popular belief they are NOT mutually exclusive. I think both you and >>2531009 are both thinking in pretty black and white terms. The jury’s out whether BPD and CPTSD are the same thing (that’s for the next version of the DSM to decide), but I don’t think it even matters. If you have BPD you have a responsibility to get help and learn to control your symptoms. Trauma is an explanation, not an excuse. And it is possible to unlearn most of the symptoms.
You’re not doing yourself any favors by denying that the disorder causes destructive, potentially abusive behavior.

No. 2531022

>>2531016
Bpd classically was given to an angry woman who is fed up of being traumatized
Ptsd was first given to vets yes, 20 years ago you’d have earned the diagnosis BPD. You’re so disgusting and are part of the problem. Of course i know ptsd nowadays is given to everybody just like adhd is, and there have been women diagnosed with BPD who are just covert and arent at all like what you said. Why do you hate the bpd so much? Because they’re a hysterical crazy woman. Can’t you see how misogynistic that sounds? Just admit it. You have all the symptoms of a borderline except the stigma that men and retard farmers (who are prolly men or sheep) have created

No. 2531026

>>2530991
2nd ayrt
I didn't mean to sound like I was saying vets are better than bpds sorry for giving you that impression nonna. When I said "certain bpds" I was thinking of my mom's schizo exbf who tried to kill her. I have a female bpd friend though and I help her through her episodes when she feels compulsive. She's attempted suicide before and has been disowned by her own mom so I feel protective over her. My observations about bpds came from that and wasn't meant to come across as dismissive or something negative.

No. 2531030

>>2531022
because your kind is fucking hateable and terrible to be around? i only have to met one to know you're not some innocent and traumawwtiwzed uwu as you claim to be, you enjoy terrorizing people more than you like to admit. and no, i went to therapy part of my adolescence with the most conservative shrinks of my shithole and never, not even once, got the BPD diagnosis. because again, i'm not impulsive, manipulative or narcissistic.

No. 2531031

>>2531017
Misread it. I fully agree. Though the black and white thinking is a bpd/cptsd symptom
Hehe. Yes, stigmatizing somebody who is already traumatized is not gonna help anybody except the people who enjoy belittling others. I have been diagnosed with cptsd, prior with bpd, idek if they have dropped the bpd thing or not, from what i know is that my laundry list of traumas is just something therapists don’t understqjd how they can deal with, and frankly said, idgaf. I am working hard on improving my patterns and shit even if therapists basically admit that they can’t cure me from my cptsd
>>2531026
Isn’t that just psychopatic/sociopathic?

No. 2531032

>>2531030
you are kinda self-righteous and dramatic though

No. 2531038

>>2531030
Ok retard. Go play the victim somewhere else.(infighting)

No. 2531056

>>2531032
>>2531038
seething because you got the hysteria diagnosis kek. hope BPD never gets removed from DSM so your kind is stigmatized forever(infighting)

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No. 2531061

>>2531056
The retard iq will stay in your files too(infighting)

No. 2531063

>>2531059
Lol more like two retarded bpds (I’m one of the two)

No. 2531065

Alright that’s enough. Get in losers, we’re going to DBT class.

No. 2531066

>>2531038
>>2531061
>"we re just traumawwtised misunderstood and BPD le big bad, we need another diagnosis to claim because weee're not ewwil"
>get told to take accountability for fucking once and accept it
>"fuck off retard go play VICTIM somewhere else, i AM the victim"
textbook(infighting)

No. 2531071

>>2531066
Yup. No one is allowed to b a victim except them. They can't stand not being the center of everyone's worlds 24/7.

No. 2531076

>>2531013
Your shitty cherry picked graph proves nothing. BPD is inheritable and doesn't always need trauma to be present, CPTSD is not inheritable and is directly caused by trauma. Stay in your own thread and quit speaking over others and trying to co-opt their diagnoses because you refuse to take accountability for your own. We get it, nothing is ever your fault, you're a perfect victim through no fault of your own and can't help treating others awfully as a trauma response. CPTSD sufferers don't feel a need to manipulate others or purposefully put themselves in danger and suicide attempts to gain pity. Just because you found a few shared traits does not make them one and the same because you want them to be.

No. 2531080

>>2530991
>100% of bpds have been raped
LOL no. Self reportedly? Rewriting the facts so they don't have to take responsibility for cheating on their partner doesn't count.

No. 2531085

>>2531015
Typical bippie gaslighting behavior.
>>2531022
>Bpd classically was given to an angry woman who is fed up of being traumatized
You just love to quote anecdotes with no factual basis, don't you? While that may have happened OCCASIONALLY, and some CPTSD sufferers have been misdagnosed with BPD, there is are huge undeniable differences that separate BPD from CPTSD.

No. 2531098

Can't believe this thread got invaded by a bpd chan when bpd chans are the reason a lot of us have cptsd in the first place. Like flies to butter.

No. 2531099

People with bpd are part of the cluster b section of personality disorders. CPTSD is not a personality disorder. BPD and narcissism overlap so much that I'm not entirely convinced they're different. However, this is the CPTSD thread so can we stay on track please?

No. 2531100

>>2531098
People on this website are so obsessive over bpd its kinda disturbing
Anyways what do you guys think of the similarities of autism and cptsd?

No. 2531105

>>2531100

I haven't heard about an autism - cptsd correlation but that's interesting. socializing can be quite stressful for people with cptsd.
I have heard about adhd and cptsd overlapping, specifically because disassociation/etc. causes you to be inattentive

No. 2531106

>>2531105
*Sorry, meant to say ctpsd being mistaken for adhd, not that they're overlapping conditions

No. 2531117

You guys know it’s possible to be comorbid with more than one thing right?

No. 2531129

I’m a supposed BPDfag but I think I have CPTSD. For starters: my sense of self is extremely developed. I also fear relationships with others due to trauma and have only had an handful of partners. My symptoms also greatly improve when I am not around my family. Honestly I never really felt like the BPD diagnosis fit but I digress. A few questions for you all:
1. Anyone else here feel like they have Peter Pan syndrome? When I finally moved out on my own it felt like I was finally getting to live the life I never had. My dad was so oppressive and controlling growing up. I moved out only at 26 and finally feel like I am living my life for myself now for the first time ever. Meanwhile everyone keeps telling me to start looking for a husband and thinking about kids bc all of the “decent” moids are getting taken in your late 20s and I will eventually be stuck with the divorcees. As I get older I become much more commitment-phobic and greatly fear being trapped with a hideous man in a lifelong commitment. I have a deep fear of letting people close because the guys I’ve tried dating in recent years were put off by my childhood trauma. I also love kids but I’m also pretty sure that I don’t want them bc I am afraid to be “trapped” again. I kind of wonder if the fear of being trapped by a man is common for women with CPTSD so that’s why we tend to avoid relationships, unlike BPD people.
2. Is it possible to build a “normal” life out of CPTSD? Sometimes I feel lucky because I was the only person without severe substance abuse issues in my DBT class. But I also feel like an imposter 99% of the time when I’m around people in my white collar job. Even though I have this incredibly exceptional life that seems very idyllic on the surface, I can’t help but feel like the only people who really truly understood me were those people in the DBT class who are drug addicted and come from a similar background/headspace. I feel so alien from the people that I interact with on a daily basis. I’m light-hearted on the surface but I feel so hardened and cynical in my everyday life if that makes sense. People also think I’m younger than I am because I think my parents hovering over me somehow makes me appear sheltered and gave me a case of arrested development.

No. 2531141

>>2531137
They overlap as they have SOME similar traits but they are not the same as pointed out before.
Why are bpdchans in the cptsd thread?

No. 2531143

>>2531129
Doctors sometimes misdiagnose CPTSD as BPD bc (sexism, sometimes don't think CPTSD is a real diagnosis, unawareness as it is a relatively new concept)

No. 2531256

>>2531129
U probably got misdiagnosed. Every person I met w BPD has pretty much no sense of self.

Imo women get way over diagnosed with BPD while men are under diagnosed. There's alot more males with BPD than people realize but they rarely get help and when they do they mostly diagnosed with depression or some shit bc BPD is seen as a woman's PD. It's retarded

No. 2531636

>>2531129
It's possible and even sounds like you're already building your life up. I get where you're coming from, sometimes I feel the same way about coworkers. But then I remember everyone has problems, even if they're not the same as mine. Also there might be other people with difficult childhoods, but they just don't talk about it.

No. 2532200

>>2531143
>>2531256
Yeah I think I was misdiagnosed with BPD but it’s annoying bc CPTSD is kind of a newer term and it has so much “overlap” with BPD stuff. I also despise how my symptoms and background are assumed to be BPD. Like for instance people will see old self harm scars and just assume you have BPD right off the bat kek.
>>2531636
Yeah I guess so. My biggest complex is my scarred arms though. I’m the only one in my office who wears long sleeves everyday and I feel so self conscious about them slipping and people seeing the scars all over my wrists and stuff. Ik this isn’t really related to CPTSD but I feel like my old scars are the only thing that hold me back from being able to pretend nothing ever happened to me. Otherwise I would wake up a “different person” tomorrow and pretend my childhood was perfectly normal.

No. 2532252

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How do you make the nightmares go away? I'm proud to have healed a lot and I don't really struggle with the past all that much anymore, I can talk about what happened without feeling torn up about it, but I still get nightmares constantly. They're usually very literal remixes about situations like being threatened, assaulted, stalked, forced, ostracized, etc. I could fit both PTSD and CPTSD because I had both long-term and acute trauma but since CPTSD is a newer term I only had official diagnosis for PTSD, although like I said my symptoms have improved a lot from when they were at their worst.
All the advice I find is either generic stuff about healing from the pain, which I've already made a ton of progress on and I'm not sure what more I can consciously do besides continuing what I'm already doing, or people coping with substances like alcohol or weed. Some sources said they might be a chronic symptom even after significant improvement. Is there really no way to make them stop?

No. 2532275

>>2532252
i have night terrors from PTSD too. emotional healing, DBT or exposure therapy can only do so much when you're scarred down to that level. Only thing that really makes them go away for me is to take PTSD meds for nightmares. i take prazosin and it makes my blood pressure extremely low in the morning but its worth it. having one night of just dreamless sleep is a fucking blessing tbh

No. 2532292

Any tips for when your trigger literally lives on your street? Though I think I have to move cause it hasn’t improved for seven years.

No. 2532312

>>2532252
Doesn't work all the time, but I've found I have them less when I just have a playlist full of random shit to listen to. Music, podcasts, audiobooks. If I fall asleep listening to something that makes me think about something else, I'm less likely to have nightmares about the times that caused my CPTSD.

No. 2532313

>>2532292
move. just move

No. 2532314

>>2532252
some antidepressants make your dreams go away, but that's not necessarily fun either

No. 2534507

love having nightmares about the person who traumatized me 10 nights in a row

No. 2534643

>>2532292
nonna, you didnt deserve to deal with that for 7 years. i sincerely hope your financial situation will allow you to move far, far away.

No. 2538233

what is the difference between cptsd and ptsd, other than that more than one thing happened to you? I've experienced multiple traumatic things / environments but I think I only experience a trauma response around one of them.



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