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so many coincidences
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Who cares this much about a pizza stained handkerchief?
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George Soros and Hillary Clinton are donating an insane amount of money to this dumpy little pizza place. Wonder why.
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I also wonder why on earth obama would frequent this dumpy little ping pong pizza place.
It's out in the open, not conspiracy or anything. Why this one particular pizza place????
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The pizzagate subreddit got shut down. Reddit owners have been taking time out of their day to edit posts about pizzagate on other subreddits. Weird weird weird.
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according to wiki the term first dates to 2005, way before the invention of 8chanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
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Public investigation is the only way this stuff can even have a chance of coming to light. I doubt anything legit will come of this, but it just reminds me so much of that jimmy savile bullshit that I can't stop poking.
The more we spread it around the better, the screenshots and such are getting deleted off twitter like crazy
Shameless instagramming real children and references to pedo shit. WTF????
Stuff getting deleted is a fucking joke. If the shoe were on the other political foot, it would be all over HuffPo and NYT in 5 seconds
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funny you should mention NYT because I do believe they ran an article about how this is fake news, cyberharrasment and needs to be stopped.
Which is weird, that they should be so taken with a random online event with a random pizzeria not a day after it blew up on wikileaks
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what weirds me out too is why all the pics of kids?
Seriously someone please convince me that there is no collusion going on at the highest levels of government and media, that this is just conspiracists being themselves.
I hope that this is just overhyped rumor drama, I really do. We're fucked otherwise and it's not just about potential trafficking, it's about people who are in bed with the media/D(N)C getting away with what they want.
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Here's some of the decoded words. I know not all of these aren't accurate. Walnut isn't a code word for poc but means an underdeveloped vulva/pre pubescent female genitalia in underground pedophile rings, for example. But just wanted to post this anyway to give people a general idea of what kind of conversations that are being held in these e mails.
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obama spent 65k on hotdogs FROM this pizzaplace wtf
this is also official
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to be fair that's a random dude who went there, the most brazen stuff is posted by one of the owners (?) jimmy comet. I wouldn't be surprised if they do legit normal parties there too like any little pizzeria, but then also invite over friggin OBAMA and HILLARY and get donations from SOROS
making me hungry for pizza tho
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and yeah all the podesta emails, he is THE owner
dude in pic related, although the 14 fish thing is really reaching in my opinion kek
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;) ey lil gurl would you like a hotdog?
Okay, after checking the random guy's Instagram, it appears that the baby is his actual daughter.
The rest of the things being posted in this thread seem to be holding up, though. Unless someone can come up with some counter-evidence, this probably isn't just wild conspiracy theories gone amok.
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A lot of the sources that are gathering all this information have claimed that Podesta owns paintings from an atrist named Biljana Djurdjevic who has painted multiple pieces that go along the lines of well… this. These people tend to have evil ass "art" hanging in their homes, like that Christiane Amanpour woman who has a painting of the twin towers set aflame hanging in her dining room. She stated it's her favorite piece in her home.
Most of it was on /pol/ and reddit when emails were being leaked constantly before election. You are slow.
Also you still lack info about that isle and lolita express in this thread.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhbFiOHy0zQ
>the owner of reddit and news sites all desperately trying to cover it up
How exactly did he try to cover it up?>>118817
I didn't follow the leaks. How do we know if those emails are all legit, rather than fake ones intended to smear their targets?
By deleting the pizzagate subreddit and (weirdest of all) taking time out of their day to ghost edit people's posts about this incident on other subreddits
It's pretty odd
Its that spez is so butthurt over the election results that he's doing everything he can to make Hillary look good/stick it to Trump supporters (he fucked around with some comments and replaced the trump subreddit's mods' names)
Idiotic and childish (no pun intended) but I don't think he's intentionally covering anything up.
The problem is that this confirms that literally anyone can be framed by Reddit mods/admins.
You could say something they don't like or they'd rather not have in the public eye, then have your post edited to death threats, and get "rightfully" banned (or arrested, in the worst case scenario).
iirc it came out at least a few days before the election>>118842
if it's fabricated, it still merits investigation because all of this is weird as fuck. including the comet pizza place with the sex references.
What about the video that had Biden in it and they're getting photos taken and he makes the little girl stand in front of him and whispers in her ear shit like "do you know how horny I am standing next to a 13 yr old" and then another video he was rubbing like a little asian girls head posing for photos?
What about the pizza place changing their logo to remove the pedo symbolism? and all the shops around there have the symbolism in the logos? It does sound like a conspiracy theory as we talk lol but these parts are true right?
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i think this is fake. Its a joke 4chan made. A bad joke. Remember when they framed eggman for a shooting? Only this time they are framing some politician for pedophilia.
Lots of people are excusing him by saying he didn't say horny, but honoured. But like, why should he be honoured to be standing next to a 13 yesr old, makes no sense.
But even if he did say honoured, its still creepy as shit and she was obviously uncomfortable as hell standing next to him
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>>118827 >waah waah how dare reddit not let me break their rules and ruin innocent people's lives!
LOL you've gotta be fucking kidding me. The admin deleted the subreddit because it was doxxing and witch hunting anyone they got their hands on, including a random band that happened to play nearby the pizza place once. I don't think you're deluded enough to genuinely believe they're trying to keep you quiet by banning you so cut the crap. You all deserved it and you know it.
>it's another trumptards invade lolcow episode
I didn't look into this pizzagate conspiratard shit at first, but now that it's even all over /b/ I've finally done a bit of digging around. And now I must kindly ask you and everyone else who's posting this crap here to kill yourselves back to /pol/ and don't come back here until you've have anything more substantial than "omg if I just replace some words in an e-mail with 'little boy' and 'sex' and 'orgy' it sounds pedophilic!" and "omg this one guy in the DNC likes creepy drawings", which will be never.
Because it's triggering
Don't you know it's 2016? Saying triggering
things is trigger warning
Where did I say conspiratards offend me? Quit putting words into my mouth.
Now my stop avoiding my actual argument: were you witch hunting and doxxing randoms or not? Did you break reddit's rules or not? Answer these any time. I'll wait.
Lmao I'm not even on reddit, nor am I doxxing anyone or witch hunting.
I just find it fascinating to read and discuss things like these
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>>119090>I'm not even on reddit
Yet you came swiftly to the defense of the pizzagate subreddit?
US has a history with the pedo rings, look into the Franklin scandal, it's basically pizzagate but happened in the mid 90's. congress threatened discovery channel to stfu about it, which they did.>>118798
with franklin scandal it was republican party members that were guilty yet they still hid news coverage. It's not about what side you're on, it's about kids getting abused by the elite and human trafficking.>>118802
I think it's more government threatening people in media to do as they say, which they then do. America and the rest of the world has always known American media and government lies to their citizens faces.
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this is blowing my mind, I can't find any information on it anywhere/decipher the truth because everything is baleeted and banhammered like reddit.
Did Kanye really mention it at a concert for example?!?!
Oh really? So what were you talking about in >>118935
Please just commit suicide already.
Based on how some people like >>119115
get very assblasted over this whole matter, It sure stirred up a big hornet's nest.
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I have the book on The Franklin Coverup. It's informative shit. Have you ever looked into Bill Maloney? He investigates the pedo ring in Britain.
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It's not like this have never happened before.
I kind of take this back now tbh because I'm reading Clinton's emails on WikiLeaks and it all seems pretty tame.
+ I was panicking about someone saying to her in an email that they were sacrificing a chicken to moloch and now I've just realised that's something I might just casually say tongue-in-cheek to my mom…
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>>119160>>waaah waaah people aren't allowed to piece information together and discuss it>its not like conspiracy theories are banned.
>i wasn't talking about the banning of pizzagate, I swear!
At least lie about something of which the counterevidence isn't in this fucking thread.
i guess you are saying that people are stupid for believing this because of the sheer ridiculousness of a pizza place acting as a front for an abuse ring at the highest levels of government. but elite abuse coverups have happened in the past so i don't think it's dumb to investigate and consider the possibility.
the banning of pizzagate isn't the only or even the main issue. the reddit ceo also sperged out and messed around with some comments because he has a hateboner for trump. it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with pizzagate but in the greater context it does show that media figures will stoop to sketchy shit when they have political vendettas.
there are a lot of weird things surrounding this comet ping pong pizza place to begin with. if the leaked emails are a russian plant, then i want to know. there are too many questions.
the best situation is that all of this means nothing but until the questions get answered, this is freaky.
sage b/c blog
….thats ps right???
Like cause if you look closely you can see blond hair
Holy hell I'm talking about you screeching about people talking about this here on lolcow, not about reddit. That it isn't banned to talk about this here, so people should be allowed to talk without being told to kill themselves.
Good god why does this make you so mad?
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I do love a good conspiracy! I don't really understand why people are making a fuss though. If you're not interested then that's fine, but some of us are.
I usually take this stuff with a pinch of salt and just look into it for fun, but I'm kind of finding myself down the rabbit hole now. There's a lot of coincidences, and even if it's completely blown out of proportion I kind of think there's something dodgy going on.
Andrew Breitbart seemed to be on to something way back in 2011, but it seems that it never went further as he died in 2012. Fishy.
Yeah, there is (probably) no satanic pedo ring, but there is definitely shady shit there going on with the Clintons, etc
Pizzagate killed all chances of the mainstream taking it seriously though.
>>119267>Mainstream taking pizzagate seriously
They already take it serious, by calling it a "fake news": new leftist's strategy to censor people and journalists.
No obe in tgeir sound mind in msinstream media will report on pizzagate, it would be treason against their masters, in fact they do their best to supress people's concern with this scandal.
>>119254>Holy hell I'm talking about you screeching about people talking about this here on lolcow, not about reddit.
Sue you are.
>without being told to kill themselves.>free speech is only when I want it!
i would give a shit if the major proponents of this weren't voat (home of /v/preteens), 8chan (home of /pedo/ and /hebe/), 4chan (home of /r9k/ and /b/) and reddit (former home of /r/jailbait)
when i can log onto r9k for one day and NOT see them posting nudes of underaged girls like agatha and erica and eliza, then maybe i will give a shit what they have to say about "global pedo conspiracies". when i can log onto voat and go to /r/all and NOT see questionable pics of "preteens" and "young ladies" then i will give a shit what they have to say. if i can log onto 8chan for one day and not accidentally click and stubble upon what is basically a _real_ child porn sharing board, i will give a shit what they have to say.
really smells to me like a bunch of pedos seeing shit that isn't there. maybe to detract for the own shit that is spewing in their safe spaces? possibly.
maybe i would entertain this conspiracy theory if their own backyard didn't stink.
they should clean up their own fucking garbage pedophile sharing websites before they start "conspiring".
it's funny if you try talking about it on 4chan/reddit/voat/8ch, you get told that you're lying or "conspiring" and that what you're saying is made up… but a bunch of people talking about pizza in a pizza restaurant is apparently not?
i can't go on /r9k/ anymore without seeing child porn. that's how bad it is. every fucking month they are stalking a new underaged girl. five months ago they were posting erica's nudes from when she was 13, then eliza's from when she was 15, etc. etc. now they're posting agatha's, and i dont know how old that girl is but she can't be older than 14. like fuck. they are the ones stalking children on the internet and trying to sexualize/groom them, and i'm supposed to give a shit about this "pizza theory"??? fuck off
Gotta be honest. If they're underage and creating nudes then that's also a real problem. Especially that Eliza, I feel nothing but pity for her. Tempting the sorts of guys who go on that board is asking for trouble.
Sad that Agatha is just as slutty. She seemed to not be more healthy mentally.
90% of the time (well, in eliza and agatha's case) they sent them to guys they had crushes on or w/e. then these grown men (usually in their 20s and/or 30s) spam them all over these websites even though they get banned over and over again.
>Tempting the sorts of guys who go on that board is asking for trouble.
how about those guys just stop being fucking pedophiles and stop fucking spreading CP all over the place? its very easy NOT to save cp and then NOT to repost it further. fucks sake.
this pizzagate thing is the result of a bunch of pedos drinking the koolaid a little too much, so they start thinking everyoen aorund them is a pedo too
I agree completely. Like if I was presented the "evidence" I'd see it as typical conspiracy bullshit. But once you find out who "cracked the case" I'm like "ya, okay I can think of a way easier way for 4chan to ~save kids from pedos~ just get rid of the cp on their own boards"
The opportunity is there for them to do more than make ms paint info graphics to stop the spread of cp, right now.
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I think it's just because I haven't seen any solid proof yet so I'm cautious about it. I really can't tell fiction vs reality with this shit sometimes, because even the core of the issue (human trafficking & child abuse) is difficult to digest. When you add satanism to the mix it just seems… kind of silly. Like an afterthought. People rape kids because they're depraved and think/know they can get away with it, where does any sort of religion fit in to it? It's different from murder in the name of the gods.
Sadly there is no doubt in my mind of sex trafficking rings among the elite, but the satanic part smells of bullshit to me. People are perfectly capable of being evil to the very core without satan/demons/rituals etc. The freaky ass artwork in this guys house is proof enough to me at the very least that he's a fucking dirty kook. Yet there is never any tangible evidence of satanism/occult practices, unless I'm unaware of something beyond a "firsthand" account, in which case I would love to be pointed in that direction. (No offense to any victims, but people lie about this shit, we know this).
All I'm saying is, this subject needs to be handled with rational and modesty or else nobody is going to take it seriously. And that pains me, the media calling this "fake news" when you could just look at Savile to see this shit actually happens.
Sage for OT sorry
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apparently they found tunnels now…
I dunno you guys, where there's smoke, there's fire. There's just too many coincidences to ignore this shit.
That's a fucking stretch. Did moot's mom also name him after child porn?>>119835
It's utter bullshit. And I say this as someone who strongly dislikes Hillary.>>119863
There are undoubtedly yet-uncovered sex trafficking rings involving wealthy and connected people somewhere out there, but 1) I doubt most or probably any of them involve satanism, and 2) the entire pizzagate thing is a hoax. There is no conspiracy. There is neither satanism nor child abuse here. It's just people trying to "connect dots" and read into "CP dogwhistles" in emails.>>119902
Some people found sewer tunnels in Washington DC, not even that close to the pizza restaurant. Time to call in the National Guard.
The only thing I'm wondering: in a year from now, will most of the pizzagate people just be embarrassed they wasted their time on a wild goose chase, or will they still insist it's a huge cover-up and now the FBI is involved in the cover-up because they refuse to investigate?
Why not spend your time more wisely and read the emails for actual signs of corruption and political and financial misconduct?
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Thinking of you nutters
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Off topic but I have no idea why people think Hillary or her supporters are leftist. Hillary is 100% capitalist and supporting things "progressive" doesn't make you a leftist, could make you a liberal but liberalism can be either left or right. Hillary is not even remotely social democrat (which is the lightest kind of "leftist" you can be). Calling everything you dislike or disagree with you leftist makes you sound politically ignorant.
The man who fired shots was a hired actor?
How do you know?
the term conspiracy has ballooned into nothingness; simply put, conspiracies are people plotting together. at some point a decent person would find it easier to write disturbing things off as "conspiracy theories" than to become angry and have to deal with the truth. ie, cognitive dissonance. "this is too awful to be real, so it must be the creation of a crazy conspiritard."
i hope #pizzagate tips the scale of general awareness so that the public can no longer deny the obvious. all the pieces are surfacing. things like this -
>a conspiracy of silence - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ttT6FrMosBk>the finder's cult - http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadrugsabusemurder.shtml>the mcmartin preschool - https://www.google.com/amp/s/ordinaryevil.wordpress.com/2012/03/04/the-mcmartin-pre-school-case-whats-so-hard-to-believe/amp/?client=safari>the dutroux affair (this is awful but it's most compelling in its breadth) - https://isgp-studies.com/belgian-x-dossiers-of-the-dutroux-affair
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He was an extra and production assistant in a few shitty movies. And "wrote" a Youtube video.
>At community college, Welch wrote his first screenplay, “Mute,” about a unique boy who meets a unique girl — a nine-minute short that was posted to YouTube and was produced by Holtorf when she was part of the area’s independent film scene. He and Holtorf appeared as victims of vampires in a slasher movie, and he worked as a production assistant on a movie about a small-town sheriff pitted against a bootlegger.
>Holtorf said Welch dabbled but “never wanted to become an actor.” His mother worked for the Locke Volunteer Fire Department on the outskirts of Salisbury, and for a time her son tried that job, too.
Even if you assume he had ulterior motives or was put up to it (which I doubt), I've seen dozens of people on /pol/ post threads saying they want to shoot the place up, and some of the replies looked pretty sincere.
It's a shill, anon. They're not going to address that.
Take notice that nearly everyone discrediting Pizzagate has nothing to say about the weird fucking e-mails and Instagram posts.
Typed in Comet Ping Pong, got eleven results. The emails take place around the same time. You're going to have to explain the code to me, I don't see it.
His Instagram is private now, but wasn't it proven that the pictures of kids were of his friends' kids, his family, and even himself?
thinking Stephen Colbert and mainstream media is unbiased rofl
Child trafficking and abuse is rampant and growing more prevalent. But I get it, it's not a "convenient" cause for you to rally toward.
If you can't facebook a fucking address for a pipeline in 5 seconds to make yourself feel better then it's not worth your time. Your eyebrows need to stay on point.
Thank you, truly, for re-affirming that deep down, most people are shit.
yeah and everyone of them keep saying satanism is impossible and shit for some reason and ignoring this >>119860
video….people believe in stupid shit and people can be evil. I dont see what's so surprising.
Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is paid to do so, or "biased" (meaning what exactly?). Seems totally reasonable.>>120509
Yet when someone actually tried to do something about it and went to the pizza place with a gun, you fucktards claimed he was an actor.
>Child trafficking and abuse is rampant and growing more prevalent. But I get it, it's not a "convenient" cause for you to rally toward.
Pizzagate is baseless. You people go searching for any "proof" possible, and twist reality until you find it. That's why so many people don't take it seriously. It's not that we don't care about REAL child trafficking. It's that this ISN'T real.>>119860
I keep thinking "Man, it's crazy that this is happening. It's like the satanic panic of the 80s/90s all over again. Didn't we learn anything from that?" And now, holy shit, you're literally using it as proof. Please tell me you realize that at least some of that stuff was made up, right? Kids were subjected to hypnotic regression, which has been PROVEN to do nothing more than implant false memories. Kids claimed to have been raped with knives, tied up, beaten, etc, but they never had any wounds to show for it. There was never ANY evidence other than testimony, and even that was crap evidence, because the stories were contradictory and often described things that could not have possibly happened.
And are you seriously going to use one girl's testimony as PROOF that it's real? So every time someone says they were abused in any way, you absolutely believe it?
I don't know why I'm even making this post. Everyone that believes pizzagate has already proven they don't give one iota of a fuck about critical thinking, or facts, or reality. You want to believe there's this crazy lascivious scandal happening, and you're oh so smart so you figured it out while all the rest of us dumbasses treat MSM like gospel, and bonus point, it involves a bunch of politicians you hate! That's why you've latched onto it, rather than caring about all the REAL, OBVIOUS child trafficking that happens in the world.
Whatever. Feel free to write me off as a shill now. Or wait, what if YOU'RE the shill, meant to make the alt-right and general conspiracy theorists look like wackos?? TBH that's a lot more believable.
anonymous imageboards, for better or worse, are the perfect breeding grounds for conspiracy theories. also the perfect place for paranoid people to accuse everyone in a thread of being a samefag or shill.
we're living in a new era of conspiracy theories and they will only become bigger and more extravagant and more widely believed. 9/11 was one thing, now Sandy Hook and Orlando. it's completely infected politics with Pizzagate and election rigging, and the anti-conspiracy theorists are kind of doing a shitty job and often validating people's fears by being snobbishly dismissive. though usually that'll happen either way. obviously the guy with the gun is an actor shill and Colbert and every news outlet is in on the conspiracy.
the biggest predictor that someone believes in a conspiracy theory is the likelihood that they believe in other conspiracy theories. it's effectively a lifestyle choice. it must be a fearful and depressing existence.
I agree completely
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>>120608>Pizzagate is baseless>pizza>base
You do know most western media outlets are owned by ONE company right?
If your best argument is "it sounds crazy and I'm sure they're crazy and believe other things which I deem baseless" you're on pretty shaky ground.
Lots of things start off as "cospiracy theories" fuck, that's how it was with cholera back in the day. People laughed when snow said it was carried by water.
No. Forget about the media, confirmation biases, whatever. Our best argument was and has always been the fact you cretins have failed again and again at providing a single piece of evidence to support your conjecture.
Now stop being pathetic and bumping this thread every single time it falls of page one.
sage in every field
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Dude, if you have such iron clad evidence, then bring it to the cops! Or a lawyer! Like, surely you want these dastardly pizza pedos to be put behind bars. So take your evidence and do something with it (without walking into the pizza shop with a fucking gun).
So much shilling. Also try not to samefag so much, it's really obvious and just looks bad.
When it's all said and done, people like you won't be convinced, I'm sure we both agree. Let's just remind ourselves though that you and like-minded people choose not only to ignore, but outright dismiss grassroots efforts to help innocent children.
Really, at the end of the day some people just want to help people, without someone calling them an idiot for even trying. It's not perfect, far from it, but nothing is.
But you can't of course. Your justice warrior instinct is too strong, your computer too convenient, for you to not let people help. Again, it's easy, it's checks enough of your feel good boxes, and you type away.
You get to choose the causes you support, and the causes you choose not to support. No one's taking that freedom from you. Not here, or your tumblr, or your facebook feed. But we can shine a light on the hypocrisy of spending effort, slight as it is, in spewing shill to hurt a grassroots cause when you could just leave us alone and instead share planned parenthood support posts on fb or or donate to your local homeless shelter.
Because a complete nobody is going to go to their local police station and say "Look, very influential people in the US (which is on another continent for a lot of us) are pedos, please do something".
The reason people are gathering on internet forums to discuss this is because except gathering suspicious elements and trying to crack codes, there's nothing we can do. We could gather and march streets, but the media is doing a great job discrediting this whole thing by just repeating "lol people are cuh-razy and also they're racist and sexist so you hate them" and never addressing the fishy shit going on.
Fucking shills, I hate you so much.
Well, since "there's nothing we can do" you could just give up.
Or start a fundraiser, hire an actual investigator, and present your findings to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.
There is lots of shit you can do if you think something is really wrong.
Are all police in on this scheme?
Why not go to a lawyer for guidance?
Why not reach out to victim's rights groups, if you don't trust the cops?
Why not reach out to human rights orgs?
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Are you saying the cops won't take this seriously????
i'm not saying the media is trustworthy at all. but that doesn't make conspiracy theories real. (also, it's a few big competing companies.)
that's all media is: a MEDIUM of information. you look at the information, not the medium. even if the media is shitty it's still very possible to find original information, especially now that there's so much internet access.>>120609>also the perfect place for paranoid people to accuse everyone in a thread of being a samefag or shill.>>120631>So much shilling. Also try not to samefag so much, it's really obvious and just looks bad.
not replying to me, but lol
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I personally believe large scale pedophilia rings exist, but why do you think you can do anything about it? You really think you can take on the elite and stop them? Come on. Just like every other ring or rich pedophile that gets exposed, eventually all of this will just be swept under the rug and forgotten.
You are totally right. No one has ever gone to jail for sexually abusing a child.
Like, organize crime rings get busted all the time. Do you think your local police are in on it? Take it to a lawyer and see what they say. Maybe a lawyer could help you figure out who to report it to.
Like, you'd think victim's rights organizations would be frothing at the mouth to help bust a gigantic pedo ring! They have the funds to help assemble the right legal team to figh your case.
There is always a criminal on the bottom rung of the ladder that can be caught and squeezed for more details. Start with small fish, and climb the ladder.
Do something if you really want to help.
I honestly don't even care, though I know they exist. I'm just surprised that a lot of people think they can stop it at all.
I definitely think low level pedos can be caught and punished with organized effort, but I think it's pointless and a waste of energy to go against the elite.
Look how many people have tried to bring attention to many corrupt things over the years involving elites. Too many end up dead by mysterious circumstances, discredited by shills, convince the average man that it's "fake news", etc. They have too many resources to be tried and punished. You just can't win.
>>120688>Too many end up dead by mysterious circumstances
Lol such as????
I think these pizzgate theorists need to actually try to do something with their info, instead of shitposting their ms paint pictures.
If you believe in pizzagate and you haven't even tried to do anything to help the "victims" then you must be okay with satanic child sacrifice pedo pizzas.
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I'm just speaking hypothetically here. Yeah, I believe in large scale pedo rings, but not pizzagate. Why would I when so much evidence are guesses and weird assumptions like pic related?
>you must be okay with satanic child sacrifice pedo pizzas
Like I said, I don't give a shit one way or the other about pedo rings and don't believe in pizzagate. They have always been pedos, always will be, and though it's unfortunate, you can't stop child trafficking and child abuse completely. I don't even think you can slow it down. You can only make a dent in it.
Also, the supposed evidence about people dying around Hillary was in regards to Monica Petersen being found dead in Haiti not long ago. Apparently she was working for a human trafficking organization and died under mysterious circumstances. Somehow Hillary is involved with it.
You can look it up for yourself if you want. That was just one of the examples I've seen of that sort of thing (supposedly) happening more frequently.
Just off the top of my head
assistant secretary of commece whatever his name was
the clinton fundraison from that weird plane crash
shitload of others
I find it odd that you claim there's no evidence when it's pretty out there in the open. Hillary has an enormous suspicious death bodycount around her
Bud, like I already said I think it's all bullshit and was speaking hypothetically.
If you wanna debate, go debate on /po/ where they think Snopes is run by a Jew trying to cover everything up. I'm on your side of logic here.
You have to consider the statistics of it. Conspiracy theorists have a terrible understanding of probability.
The Clintons have surrounded themselves with thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of people over the years. Obviously some % would end up dying. The FBI has never found wrongdoing in any of those cases.
Unless you sincerely believe the FBI is simultaneously supporting the Clintons (despite them being run by a Republican, despite them releasing info on Bill [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fbi-launches-investigation-twitter-bill-clinton-posts-article-1.2856825
] and Hillary a few days before the election, despite numerous reports of anti-Clinton personnel who want to see her jailed) AND IS ALSO COVERING UP FOR A HUGE CHILD SEX RING IN DC, then the one conclusion is that they know it's just Internet "amateur investigators" connecting dots where there are none.
Pizzagaters and others think of it this way: the only reason the FBI is not taking their claims seriously is because they're in on it. Surely it can't be because the FBI took one look at it and realized it's pure bullshit. Surely all of the thousands of independent researchers and reporters out there who've looked at the evidence for all this didn't discard it as paranoid ramblings because they think that, but because they want to fuck kids too.
Oh, and those times the FBI and reporters did make claims about Clinton conspiracies (Lewinsky, fundraiser corruption)? They were just trying to add plausible deniability that they're neutral, of course, to cover up the real stuff.
If you're at the point where you think all national law enforcement, most of the government, and 25% of the Internet is in on these conspiracies, then there's no hope left for you. So many people on 4chan and 8chan and lolcow are like this. Not everything is a fucking conspiracy.