/ot/ - off-topic

You want a thread for deeper conversations and call it shower thoughts. Makes sense.

I wish I took up something like philosophy or sociology, even like 101 but I'm a stemcel. Discussions pertaining to the ego, super-ego etc always interest me but many people are like, "freud more like fraud" so I don't know if reading Freud would be a way to go, in my own time, with no structure to it.

>>1171566
That's the title that was suggested. Anons can share their shower thoughts to start with, and then it sparks conversation.

>>1171583
I'm one of those that has a negative opinion of Freud, but you can't arrive at any conclusion about him if you don't read him. And not all he says is total bullshit, you just need to parse.

I highly recommend reading "the psychopathology of everyday life". It's a very entertaining book and will give you many insights, but most of all you'll have a good time reading it. It deals with rather light subjects compared to the rest of his work.

>>1171591
I don't have any worthwhile contribution but holy shit, this is the cutest threadpic in the history of Lolcow

What is the difference between tinfoiling and philosophizing though?

>>1171610
Nobody listens to philosophers.

>>1171610
Tinfoiling means conspiracy theories, philosophizing is deep thinking. This thread is not for tinfoils but for thoughts about the nature of life, human beings, reality, etc. Doesn't have to be textbook philosophy like Freud who got mentioned, anything goes that counts as deep or serious and isn't suited for other threads.

>>1171613
So only metaphysics, but that is only one branch of philosophy? A lot of modern philosophy is indistinguishable from tinfoils or overlaps with ideologies and things like feminism.

Something that I think about is how matter gets recycled by the universe as the basis for our reality. I don't believe in reincarnation but I can see that as supporting it. I don't believe in pure materialism, that we ourselves are solely the product of chemicals in our brains, I lean towards thinking we all have souls. Maybe they get recycled too. But based on NDEs I tend to think there is something far greater than we can even conceive that we are a part of, where we will go/return to after death. If it's really all for nothing then that's fine, it's not like it's going to hurt me to believe otherwise. To me figuring it out is a lifelong journey with no guaranteed destination. Despite what they claim, no one really knows for sure. And yes, this is what I think about in the shower.

>>1171615
What I meant is that if it fits better in the tinfoil thread, then put it there. This thread isn't purely for philosophy as a formal subject. Anyone can put any kind of thoughts here if it can be considered deep conversation to the average person. So, a lot goes here. This isn't a Philosophy Thread but that can go in here too, as long as there isn't another place for it already.

>>1171618
>I tend to think there is something far greater than we can even conceive that we are a part of
Well quite literally kek. Whatever great thing is the source of all of us seems to have split and now we are an uncountable bunch of tiny parts with some of them thinking they are individuals.

>>1171633
I don't even think that sense can be made of our existence. Even if you believe there is no meaning or higher source, that there is only the material, it still leaves a lot to be explained. Namely how did any of this happen?

I feel like I changed for the worst sometimes. There were hobbies that used to make me happy that I don't give a shit about anymore. I used to read a lot of manga but now I don't give a fuck anymore. I don't want to hear about recent or new manga and anime at all, it pisses me off for some reason. It's always the same shit over and over again. Same with books, I liked reading novels a lot until high school ruined it for me, and now that I'm trying to get back into it at age 27 I'm not as invested as I used to be. I'm reading that book called "my year of rest and relaxation" or something like that and it's ok but I'm not reading it in one go like I used to read when I was younger. It's not even a matter of having a hard time focusing because of internet use because the only times I can't focus is when I'm sleepy at the end of the day or when there's a lot of background noise around me, I guess I'm less passionate than before? Or less of a consumer due to lack of free time and seeing enough to know what to expect from new books or shows or video games? I'm going to read a murder mystery book after that one and it's more up my alley, so we'll see. Same thing with video games, I don't keep up with new releases and what's up with the industry as a whole. I can imagine myself selling my Switch with its games later and not really regretting it at all, but that was unthinkable when I was younger.

It's just weird noticing all of this because I used to be known for being a bookworm and an anime fan. I wonder how people who knew me before and thought I was a lame race traitor and weaboo would react if they knew how I am now. It's not a vent, more of an observation. Has anyone had a similar realization? Given how my hobbies influenced me directly or indirectly (like learning English and Japanese to not wait for translations for books and movies, mastering English to the point I would start mostly going to English speaking websites and learning a lot of things I wouldn't have been aware of otherwise, going to certain events like anime cons or concerts that led to meeting my current best friends, etc.) it feels very strange.

>>1171820
it sounds like you have a lot of potential, but you just feel apathetic. are you lonely or depressive?

The fact that if carrots are planted close to each other they grow smaller and when they kept detached from each other they grow bigger. Also that in small waters where marine animals communicate they are small, whereas in deep ones they are gigantic. And finally that women are communal and small, whereas scrotes are hostilely individualistic and big.

>>1172098
Also that throughout the history of humanity, humans were continuously becoming more social and also continuously decreasing in size.

>>1172098
That's crazy, I didn't know this.

>>1172078
I honestly don't know. When I had those nerdy hobbies and read or played the most was when I was in middle and high school, when I was very depressed, constantly tired and couldn't remember people or some important stuff unless they were from my family because of some endocrine issues, hormone deficiency. My memory loss issues weren't that bad, it made school a little harder than it could have been and I couldn't socialize at all because I'd forget classmates' faces and names all the time but that's it, I don't have amnesia or whatever. Now I don't have that physical health issues anymore, I met great friends in uni but I feel like we're slowly drifting apart now that we graduated, some of us have fulltime jobs, me included and the others are neets due to external circumstances. I have a stable work shift so I should in theory have way more free time than during high school and uni if we take assignments into account, I'm healthier too, but I don't feel like doing anything like I used to. I even went to the library near our previous place when I was in middle school but gave up with high school making us read long, uninteresting things and telling us to write essays without teaching us how to. If I'm wrong and I'm actually depressed it's not nearly as bad as it used to be so I doubt that's the source of the issue. Although, me being depressed and always tired made me want to have some escape I don't need anymore so maybe that's why? I seriously don't know.

>>1172112
I hope, you mean "smaller" in an allegorical sense. Because factually we're pretty much the tallest humanity has ever been.

>>1172098
none of this is correct. carrots being close together doesn't affect their size unless the soil they're grown in isn't nutritious enough. deep sea gigantism has to do with light and temperature and humans are actually larger. you sound fucking crazy.

>>1172498
Cmon she doesn't sound crazy, just misguided and reaching.

>>1172509
she's trying to imply humans socializing is a negative thing by using an incorrect example about fucking carrots. she sounds crazy.

All men should be killed

bumping

Bump

kill all pedophiles

>>1173074
Amen
>>1173077
This cartoon has such nice animation I wish the story wasn't so childish and boring, I would watch it

>>1172498
First, carrots do grow smaller if you plant them too close with each other, that's a well known fact in gardening and the reason why some carrots must be plucked, you clearly don't know anything about this subject. Second, there is no concrete explanation for deep sea gigantism and the lifestyle one (ie forced to live independently from each other for large amount of time) is actually the most popular one, not the one you are preaching right now. Third, humans growed to be smaller through years, it's also is an anthropological fact. You are just cherrypicking modern acceleration which is an exception from the general rule.
Why are you so fucking incompetent and obnoxious though? Is this dunning-krueger in action? You know nothing about the things you are talking about and only silencing original thoughts itt (which is intended pretty much for this, it's called "shower thoughts", not "100% confirmed natural laws"). Leave, faggot.

I noticed everyone sees in black and white now, especially about people. I've been doing it myself. You discover a flaw in somebody and suddenly they are tainted and irredeemable at that. You even start to hate them. Overall we're in an age of black and white thinking, likely because we're forging our own path with no predominant coherent ideology anymore (the current one trying to dominate and grow is something like neoliberal wokeness). I hope society can come to be more nuanced and just better in general, but right now I'm focused on hoping I can too. Every single human being is flawed. I don't want to dismiss everyone unless they fit my extremely specific personally tailored ideal of who they should be, what flaws they should have. Then you're left with no one. All that said, it's still important to filter your social group and protect yourself, so, it's complicated. You probably have to keep your guard up but that doesn't mean not reaching out to others as they are. Knowing that I'm also full of ugly flaws and things. I want to spread positivity but it's pretty hard all things considered.

I forget where I saw this maybe a redditor pulled this out of their ass but there was a thing that said your face is the one that the person you last reincarnated from fell in love with. I always think about that when I feel insecure, I have some ethnic features that I haven’t always appreciated and frankly, I still don’t but I think it’s sweet.

>>1229651
This must be really sweet for helping people accept myself but I need this bitch to know I hate her in this life so bad kek

>>1229651
Wtf why did past me fall in love with such a worthless deformed uggo

>>1229698
Right? Shit taste