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No. 117120

for the first time ever, i left an internet date while he was in the bathroom. AMA
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 117122

was he a neckbeard?

No. 117123

>>117122
yea, kinda. not so obviously but many red flags throughout the night. he mentioned his ex gf who was black and from a wealthy suburb and that she was "racist against white people" and i was just like oh man. that was the biggest of them. and then he went to the bathroom and i made a break for it

No. 117124

>>117123
also mentioned wanting to own a gun before they were outlawed, how he felt marginalized as a white person, started mansplaining to me stuff about woodworking… i just couldn't take it. i feel bad, never have done that before but i felt an intense urge to just LEAVE

No. 117125

>>117123
>>117124
holy shit I would have totally left too! that's fucking cringey as fuck and disgusting.

No. 117126

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>>117125
yeah…. blocked his phone number and his online accounts lmao so idk what he's thinking but this was only 2.5 hours ago. didn't know what else to do!!!

No. 117128

>>117120
At what age did you know you were gay?

No. 117130

>>117128
hm. maybe 17?

No. 117134

>>117126
did you meet on tinder?
I feel like all my tinder dates thus far have been awful, they're always super nerdy, or bordeline uncomfortable. I'm suprised I haven't left.

No. 117138

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>>117123
>dating someone who goes out with nignogs

Yeah I would have left too, that's just gross(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 117179

>>117124
>mansplaining
get out and go back to your safe space.

No. 117184

>>117179
Stop anonsplaining her you freak.

No. 117190

>>117123
If he had good reason to think so, like you know, her actually saying racist things about white people, then I don't know why you were so triggered by him saying that.
If he was just acting like every other person on the planet does, and called something racist when it wasn't, hell I woulda booked it out of his house ASAP as well.

No. 117195

>>117123
blacks are usually racist against whites. not sure what's wrong with him saying that. if you're implying he's racist, i would assume he wouldn't have dated her since she's black so…

No. 117209

>>117195
something something fetishization

No. 117216

>>117179
go back to /r9k/ i thought you autists get an immediate ban when you post on our boards

No. 117219

>>117184
>triggered
haha, more like a dude saying with contempt how he feels marginalized as a white person walking in a nice area because "people cross the street when they see him" so he implied that all "racism" was situational and that he, again - a white dude, experienced racism. also said that a friend of his was dating a militant vegan (which is cringe and i agreed w him) got into his car and saw the leather seats and was like "WHAT IF I JUST CUT UP THESE SEATS" and he was like i would have actually fucking punched her

No. 117237

>>117219
christ anon he sounds like a real winner lmao

No. 117247

>>117237
ik!!!! why i had to leave, wasn't like he was just some poor dweeb i left he was a bonafide neckbeard redpiller

No. 117261

>>117216
Take your Tumblr shit and fuck off, not everyone who isn't full on PC is a robot, no-one's going to ban people for disagreeing with you..And mansplaining is a stupid term.

No. 117268

>>117261
nice, how long have you been a virgin?

No. 117269

>>117268
Oh shit, you sure got me, I'll have to hand in my "Not a virgin" card down at the agency.

No. 117274

>>117269
ty kind autist

No. 117301

>>117123
>>117124
Sounds like he dodged a bullet tbh

>dating someone who dates blacks


I would have left right there, not even waited for him to go to the bathroom (that was a cowardly move on your part; you should have stated what he did wrong, you'll understand when you reach adulthood)

No. 117320

>>117124
>started mansplaining to me stuff about woodworking…
Are you 4reel? Shit, guy must've been happy he didn't have to keep pretending to want to talk to you any longer

No. 117332

>>117301
lmao, i didn't care to continue the night. just wanted to leave. idk how thats cowardly? didn't care what he thought i just wanted to dip. but thx robot

No. 117333

>>117320
nice, so how long have you been an incel?

No. 117341

So how was he "mansplaining" about wood working vs talking to you about a subject he probably knows a lot about, and you do not?
Or was he just just droning on about a subject that didn't interest you?

No. 117347

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Post screengrab of his Tinder profile. Or explain why you went out with him in the first place.

While I think you were really immature and hurtful for ghosting someone and leaving them with the check, he was clearly a throwback because you simply do not start talking about racial matters on a first date. ever.

No. 117348

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>>117347
(contd)
or guns. lol. how stupid do you have to be to bring up guns to a female who barely knows you. a) they are not interested b) you are clearly trying to project yourself as macho but c) you just look fucking scary as shit because it's not a dick measuring competition. it's a date. you know. love and all that.

No. 117354

>>117347
there was no check! we were each buying our own drinks. so i did not feel bad

No. 117377

>>117333
his whole life probably

No. 117387

>>117333
>>117332
>>117268
>>117216
Is that the only comeback you have? You know that there's a huge majority of people who aren't "robot" or "overly PC Tumblr browser" and think both are stupid, right?

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a robot, and you're trying way too hard.

No. 117390

>>117341
He was presumably talking about a subject he knows a lot about, but OP has already judged him as a racist misogynist pig by that point, so when he brought up a "complicated" topic that made OP feel really stupid since she knew fucking nothing about it and was too lazy to actually listen, she had to write it off as "mansplaining" so that she didn't have to feel so bad about being dumb.

No. 117393

>>117134
I thought Tinder was for getting laid, not dating

No. 117396

>>117390
Or maybe he was just talking/rambling in a condescending way without leaving her any room to talk.

No. 117420

>>117393
it was on okcupid!

No. 117421

>>117390
didn't judge him as a pig actually, i could have not gone to the second bar with him but i decided to give him more of a chance after he said the gun comment and the wanting to beat up a vegan comment. when he started lecturing me about woodworking, not asking me anything about myself, just kind of talking at me i knew that i just wanted to leave. why does the term mansplaining bother you so much?

No. 117422

>>117134
forgot to reply to this but no it was okcupid. tinder has been largely awful for me, i met one cute guy on it who i slept with a couple of times but we didn't have enough of a connection to really ~date~. okcupid has been a lot better but there's such a misconnection between guys i actually like not wanting anything serious and guys really liking me that were nice but i wasn't into.

No. 117452

>>117396
Which would just be called being a dick instead of "mansplaining", as people of both genders do that shit.

No. 117459

>>117332
>robot

Last time I checked I had two X chromosomes and I've been on this site since its inception, but moving on…..

My mother always raised me to stand up for myself, and explain what someone was doing wrong if they offend me. This is a lesson I took to heart and always try to emulate. It's how you demonstrate assertiveness and hopefully correct the other person so they don't treat others the same way in the future.

Apparently your shitty parents didn't raise you with such values. Sucks to suck anon.

>inb4 fattychan calls me a robot again

No. 117482

>>117459
i have no comeback really, the irony of your post does it all for me

No. 117484

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Holy shit this thread is cringy as fuck. Look at them buzzwords lmao.

Why the fuck did you go to another bar with him after he said he'd beat the shit out of someone??

>>117459 is right, how the fuck do you expect the dude to understand and maybe correct his behavior if you just ran away? How is that not a cowardly move? You think he'll act any differently on his next date with another chick? Let us just complain about how much of a dick he is instead of actually doing something to correct him, amirite?

No. 117537

>>117120
OP that picture is cancer

No. 117548

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No. 117549

>>117484
>Let us just complain about how much of a dick he is instead of actually doing something to correct him

Yeah because all women should take care of men. I'm not a grownass dude's nanny, fuck off.

No. 117553

>>117549
It's just common courtesy though? As in, it doesn't only apply to men?
If someone is doing something inappropriate, tell them so they can correct themselves because they may not have known otherwise.

I hope one day they'll find a cure for your man-hating autism.

No. 117560

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>>117553
Give people the common courtesy of choosing whatever fuck they want to choose, including that, the right of not teaching others how to behave in society.

No. 117561

>>117560
Then you've no right to complain when someone's being a wanker if you're not telling them to stop. People can't read minds, especially not autistics. If you want to be a coward that's your prerogative, but then don't get buttblasted and blame men when someone doesn't act how you want.

The world doesn't owe it to you to be nice and care about your feelings, if you don't like that, take steps to change it.

No. 117568

>>117561
So it's basically my fault people are retard because I am not teaching them the right way?

You seem sheltered as fuck. Try going outside, it might help.

No. 117570

>>117560
OP here. thank you anon

No. 117571

>>117561
>The world doesn't owe it to you to be nice and care about your feelings, if you don't like that, take steps to change it.

lmao.. which is why i left that guy at the bar. thanks for coming to the same conclusion that i did but after autistically screeching about the word mansplain

No. 117572

>>117571
I wasn't the one 'screeching' and I don't care about your post, hence why I didn't reply to you.
>>117568
>So it's basically my fault people are retard because I am not teaching them the right way?
No, it 'basically' isn't. People are going to be retarded with or without your interference, but it is your fault for enduring it and complaining about something done to you personally that you can easily change by telling them to stop.

You seem to be the one who's sheltered here since you can't seem to grasp that one simple thing.

If your romantic interest is saying embarrassing things, you can stay and listen to him and then rant about it on the internet when you get home, or you can tell him he's being a retard and end the date like an adult. They may not change on a personal level, but they won't do it around you anymore.

No. 117582

>>117572
you're the one replying on my board, capo

No. 117583

>>117572
it's not my duty to teach somehow how to be a decent person. we actually dissented quite a bit throughout the night, especially on the topic of guns. i don't feel the need to regurgitate the entire evening i just mentioned the weird shit he said (which i replied to and counterpointed) and when i didn't feel like being there anymore, i left. i wasn't sitting there mealy-mouthed like a fucking idiot just thinking of what i was going to post about on lolcow lmao. i made a board talking about my experience!!!

No. 117608

>>117583
Their point isn't that it's your responsibility, it's that you're complaining about shit you did nothing to fix.

Also, if you ran off without even telling him instead of just making up an excuse for why you had to go (or just staying, a date lasts what, a couple hours?) says that you're kind of a shit person too, because that's a real dick move.

That combined with the Tumblr shit in the first post says you were probably more of an issue on the date than you're admitting.

Also
>you're the one replying on my board, capo
>i made a board talking about my experience!!!

How fucking new are you? You didn't make a board.

No. 117613

>>117387
>You know that there's a huge majority of people who aren't "robot" or "overly PC Tumblr browser" and think both are stupid, right?

I think there's a lot of middle ground between "dating black people is disgusting" and "overly PC Tumblr browser".

No. 117678

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>>117124
>mansplaining

No. 117682

>>117124
>mansplaniing

You're the cringey one here

No. 117728

>>117124
Unironic sjw shit has been becoming more and more common on lolcow.

Of course white people feel marginalized when their own leaders are trying to make them minorities everywhere from Paris to America.

No. 117741

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>being this dumb and uninformed and not knowing what is mansplaining

No. 117744

>>117608

Yeah, because everyone should insist in a relationship that clearly doesn't work and try to "correct" the way other people think instead of just walking away and making it easier for both. Everyone should live according to your standards because they are probably the best, right?

Of course it's not easier for both. You and the person she dated are probably incel tier neckbeard. I am surprised she even dated him. Probably hid his powerlevel or doesn't look like a fucking awkward mess from outside.

And as usual from scum like you, you are gonna call anyone who disagrees with your alt-right mentality a "Tumblr".

No. 117746

>>117744
It's not about insisting or "Correcting", it's about common fucking courtesy. If you can't stand them so much you have to leave immediately, at least let them know why, or just do what every decent human being does on a shitty date and just hang around until the end of it then don't go on another with them.

>You and the person she dated are probably incel tier neckbeard


Oh yeah, you sure caught me, how will I ever recover!

>And as usual from scum like you, you are gonna call anyone who disagrees with your alt-right mentality a "Tumblr".


I called it Tumblr because of the retarded Tumblr buzzwords thrown in there, no other reason. Hence "Tumblr shit", not "You are from Tumblr".

And what did I say that made you think I was alt right at all? Do you have any other comebacks than "I bet you're /pol/ or /r9k/ browser"? Because it doesn't insult anyone. Doesn't bother me because I don't browse them, and doesn't bother them because they don't see it as a bad thing. You should really step it up.

No. 117749

>>117746
Stop shouting courtesy, we all know that's not how the world works, not everyone has courtesy to help strangers and you can't do that expecting others would do too. Grow up.

No. 117759

>>117741
>being this dumb and uninformed and believing that mansplaining isn't complete bullshit

No. 117761

>>117749
Wow anon, you sure showed me with your worldliness, that totally excuses you being a dick who lacks the courtesy to even stay to the end of a date, despite it taking like an hour at most.

It's called common courtesy for a reason. If you don't have it, you're a cunt. Other cunts existing in the world doesn't make it more excusable.

And seriously, going "grow up" as an argument when you're the one who ran out of a date because they were "mansplaining" you? Might want to look in a mirror there bucko.

Even more so if you're just someone whiteknighting for them.

No. 117785

>>117761
I don't get why you keep defending the autist OP dated, do you feel offended and fear someone might do the same to you?

No. 117787

>>117785
Not that anon, but maybe because OP's a retard and overreacted to absolutely nothing. She got triggered and left.

No. 117859

>>117746
why? if i can't stand someone, i leave. i gave plenty of chances and i'm tired of trying to teach dudes how to behave so i just don't have the patience.

also, other anon called your autistic screeching alt right bc that's what it is, lmao. getting mad at the word "mansplain" and throwing around "tumblr" in response to when a woman doesn't want to be around someone without expwaining so she doesnt huwt his incel feewings speaks volumes about you

No. 117861

>>117787
seems like you're the retard that gets triggerdt by being called incels and autists. idg the nerd honor that goes on between autists, it was a fucking date that had multiple red flags, that were debated, and then i fucking left. what's the big deal? i came on here to make a thread lmao not have to try to corral fat anon neckbeards that have infowars and PUA shit saved as bookmarks

No. 117862

i also love that a previous anon said i made the mistake by going on a date with a person who dated black people and then proceeded to call me a coward when i fucking left because he was as racist as aforementioned anon. ironic and truly interesting

No. 117864

>>117861
No-one's upset because you called them incels you moron, we know we're not, you going "haha I bet you are" means nothing to anyone, just makes you look like a retarded teenager.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is some boogieman from another site, we just think you're an immature self righteous tard. Sure, he sounds like a dick too, but I really, really doubt you're without fault in this situation based on how you've handled yourself here.

Just shoving as many different buzzwords as you can in a single post doesn't make you look smarter, it makes you look like you're fresh off the boat from Tumblr, seeing as you're clearly extremely new here.

No. 117877

>>117861
Yup, I'm an incel. You got me, sleuth! It's so easy to tell how angry you are that people aren't supporting you in this thread if that's all you can come up with. You're an idiot and sound immature as fuck only thinking of things in black and white. Seriously, was it your 8th grade first date? I'm glad you left, because that boy doesn't deserve to put up with a whiny cunt like you.
>what's the big deal?
Lol that's just it. Nothing. You're turning some harmless thing he said into something oh so tragic! I hope you get help soon, truly. Go take a chill pill and relax.

No. 117895

>>117877
you caught me

No. 117902

>>117746
>If you can't stand them so much you have to leave immediately, at least let them know why, or just do what every decent human being does on a shitty date and just hang around until the end of it then don't go on another with them.
So either
A) Be confrontational because your personal opinion clashes with the personal opinions someone else who you have no attachment to, have already decided you don't care for and will never date
or
B) Continue suffering because it's "polite"
Are you just scared that one day you'll reveal your /pol9k/ powerlevel and get ghosted on a date? Kek.

No. 117906

>>117902
>these are the only two possible options
OR, act like an adult and tell them you don't like thing x about them, tell them you just aren't compatible and end the date.

jesus christ are you 11

No. 117907

>>117906
Or just cut the shit and leave. He probably would've whinged at her if she told him why she was done with him, anyway. It's not like getting stood up kills you.

No. 117925

>>117902
>Continue suffering because it's "polite"

So, you're saying you shouldn't have to do anything simply because it's "polite", but he's a retarded dick for not being polite?

Don't be a hypocrite.

You either just finish the date and don't go out with them again, like fucking everyone who has a bad date does (it's not like he did something so insanely offensive that you'd be disgusted and have to leave), or let him know why you don't see it going any further and cut it short.

Running off is just immature, and a dick move, with no real justification for it except for that you're clearly too immature to be able to hang out with someone you don't like for an hour out of courtesy, and to see if it gets better.

Seriously, why did you come here, not even hang out long enough to find out the difference between a board and a thread and then start accusing people from being from other sites? Did you honestly think that seemed like a good way to handle it?

Grow up.

No. 117960

>>117925
>implying I'm OP
Your defense is still "Oh it's polite! Everyone does it!" but there's no reason to stay if you don't want to. At all.

No. 117964

>>117925
board, thread, who cares? it's lolcow. i'm having fun. get out

No. 117980

>>117960
As opposed to the defense of "I bet you're a virgin"?

>>117964
You've very clearly come here from some other site and immediately started accusing others of the same as soon as they disagree with you.

Lurk before you post.

No. 117988

>>117925
What are you even trying to achieve? I don't think you're telling her anything she doesn't already know. She simply doesn't care and you can't make her especially not with this long-winded post.

No. 117991

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No. 118001

>>117980
i've been on 4chan for years lmao. you accused me of being a coward so pot/kettle? kek

No. 118007

>>118001
Wow, you've been using chans for years and don't know the difference between a board and a thread? It's not like it was a typo either, you typed it several times.

I really doubt you learned to use the word mansplaining seriously from fucking 4chan of all places too.

And no, that was another anon who called you a coward, and I really don't think you know what the whole pot/kettle thing means.

>>117988
What are any of us trying to achieve? I have free time, OP's a retard, so I spent the time to call them that and explain why.

No. 118014

>>118007
mansplain isn't from 4chan and who cares if theres a difference between a board and a thread, seriously pathetic if you're arguing about that lmao. there's a good ny times article to check out about mansplaining

How to Explain Mansplaining - The New York Times

i've also read a book about it called "men explain things to me" by rebecca solnit. it's not a tumblr buzzword, it's an actual thing. educate urself pls you thread-purist

No. 118015


No. 118017

>>118014
You're accusing people from being from other places while obviously being from elsewhere yourself. That's why it matters.

And just because there's a book about something doesn't make it serious. I'm sure there's a book about how aliens did 9/11 too, and plenty of huge internet blogs about it, it doesn't mean it should be taken seriously.

It's a tumblr buzzword, because it unnecessarily injects gender politics into what's actually just that some people are condescending dicks.

No. 118021

>>118014
>who cares
I do. We all do. Learn how to use the site or fuck off.

No. 118028

>>118017
people being dicks has a lot to do with gender politics, just bc you're a man and can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there idiot

No. 118029

>>118028
By your logic, if I was a guy I could say you were femsplaining me or some shit.

It's ridiculous, people can be condescending assholes regardless of gender, you don't need a completely different term based on what's between their legs.

And you really have to tone down the "if you don't agree with me you're clearly X/Y/Z stereotype group that discredits you completely" shit. It's not like we're been using /r9k/ terms or something.

No. 118062

>>118029
sure, except women have been oppressed for centuries and men haven't hence the need for women's studies and terms like 'mansplaining' that autists like you get hurt over. it's not a stereotype but you're stereotyping every woman on this board and defending with nerd honor the guy i went on one (count em one) date with and so that's why its funny and we're throwing stereotypes at you

No. 118065

>>118062
>fighting sexism with more sexism
>"its okey bcuz muh oppressionz!!"

Not the anon you were replying to, but that is a bunch of bullshit if I've ever seen it.

>inb4 you can't be sexist towards men

No. 118072

>>118062
So, should white people that were oppressed have their own terms? Maybe the Jews should too? Goysplaining?

I mean, the Romans enslaved a lot of people, should we have a Wogsplaining as well?

It's ridiculous and completely unnecessary, just use the words that already exist, don't make up special snowflake terms for no reason. Because seriously, can you blame anyone for thinking it's retarded?

>it's not a stereotype but you're stereotyping every woman on this board


What? By calling you a retard who's very clearly new to chan boards and telling you that using stupid Tumblr words and acting incredibly immaturely on your date, I'm stereotyping all women on this board, including myself?

And no-one's upset that you're pretending everyone who thinks you're dumb (so, most of this thread) is some incel or /pol/ moron, it's just stupid when all you're going off is "You don't like Tumblrisms".

No. 118078

>>118065
People (as a class) who don't have power don't have the capability to oppress the oppressors. If individual women have male prejudice or bias (having specialty studies isn't sexist, or even prejudiced – you really are terrible at thinking critically), that's not sexism. You don't know what sexism is, apparently. Reverse sexism doesn't exist because women don't hold systematic power over men. Bias =/= sexism. Please brush up on basic vocab before trying to call other people stupid. I don't place a lot of stock into sociology or the social sciences, but if you're going to talk shit, at least know the basics.

No. 118084

>>118078
Come on, you have to make your bait at least somewhat subtle, you can't just chuck it all in there and mix some condescension in and expect people to bite.

No. 118085

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>>118078
>sexism=prejudice+power
>"Please brush up on basic vocab…"
>"..you are really terrible at thinking critically.."

No. 118091

>>118078
Dont even try, you are wasting your time, they wont learn, they wont listen.

No. 118095

>>118062
Holy shit I thought this site was free from all this feminist bullshit..

No. 118101

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>>118095

>a site full of women

>expecting it to be 100% feminism free

Have you ventured beyond /b/?

No. 118102

>>118095
Why dont you go back to Facebook where you can say you are different from normal girls and keep being praised by all your guy friends?

No. 118103

>>118102
>assuming it's not different to be self-loathing enough to tripe on about muh feminism

No. 118116

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>>118062
I bet you're the kind of person who'd approve pic related for "fighting the oppression"

No. 118117

>>118072
thats for trying to di-man-ssect what i'm trying to convey. using random ex-man-amples really isn't going to change anyone on this boards mind, especially ones that don't know the basics of the social sciences

No. 118118

>>118116

Lol is this legit? What were they thinking.

No. 118119

>>118117

also >inb4 "board" versus "thread" as if anyone fucking cares

No. 118123

>>118116
Thats fucked up

No. 118127

>>118123
>>118118
worst part was that the only reason they stopped selling them was because of the "Fat Her"
not because of people complaints of sexism and shit

No. 118133

>>118116
>responds to an argument with a meme picture

wew

No. 118134

>>118103
It's not even a feminist concept, idiot. The same applies all across the board for systematically oppressed groups. It's a SOCIOLOGICAL concept. It's basic class analysis. You people are honestly so fucking stupid. BIAS exists, but it isn't sexism. Just like BIAS against whites exists among individual blacks in the US, but it's not racism. It really has nothing to do with feminism. To be racist, sexist, etc, you need to have methodical power. Again, I'm not into social sciences. This is basic vocab that you learn at Uni having to take req humanities courses. You guys are retarded.

>>118102
It's probably a man. Plenty of self-hating women in chan culture are compulsive dickkissers, but I'm pretty sure that's a man.

No. 118139

>>118134
>"All women are inferior to men" = sexism
>"All men are inferior to women" = not sexism
>"All blacks are inferior to whites" = racism
>"All whites are inferior to blacks" = not racism
>acts like they aren't saying a bunch of bullshit
>calls other people retarded for not agreeing with them on definitions
>also assumes everyone who disagrees with them is either a man or a self-hating woman

K.

No. 118141

>>118134
The literal definition of racism or sexism disagrees with you.

You can't just redefine words to suit your purposes and act like people are uneducated when they say this is retarded.

We get the rhetoric, it's just stupid. You could use the same logic to claim that a poor disabled person in the KKK actually isn't racist, he's just biased against black people because he doesn't have any social power.

Hell, you could use that same logic to say that only the top 1% can be racist or sexist, because compared to them, we have no power.

It's fucking retarded, and acting condescending doesn't make it less so.

And thinking that this is stupid doesn't make you a guy, or mean you hate yourself, and it's telling that you automatically discredit anyone who disagrees with you like that.

No. 118151

>>118139
Holy strawman batman. No one said any of those things lmao.

No. 118152

>>117980
I never called anyone a virgin, though. You still think I'm OP. If you want to leave a date, leave. You're not obliged to stay and explain to them why you find them insufferable. Is it the nice, polite thing to do? Yes. Do you HAVE to do it, especially if you don't care if the other person thinks you're a dick for it? Fuck no.
No one is obliged to be nice to you.

No. 118153

>>118152
>I never called anyone a virgin, though.

>>117216
>>117268
>>117333
>>117377
>>117861


There's been several posts from OP and people agreeing with her calling people virgins or incels or /r9k/. No shit I can't tell exactly which poster you are.

>No one is obliged to be nice to you.


Okay? No-one said you did, but it's pretty ironic to go "No-one has to be nice to you" while whiteknighting for the OP after people called her retarded.

Don't use "Well I don't have to be nice" as a defence and then get all upset when people call you out on being an immature retard, and probably don't start using condescending Tumblr terms and then get even more defensive when people call that retarded too and call you out on obvious newfaggotry.

You get the point people are saying here, and how terrible an excuse "Well I don't have to be nice" is when people call you out on being a dick?

>>118151
You completely missed the point of their post. It was highlighting how the argument that the existence of racism or sexism is based off of social status falls apart when you start comparing identical things. Only the last few points were meant to be things had actually said.

No. 118154

>>118153
Why are you projecting your own butthurt on me? I really don't care if someone on an anonymous forum calls me a retard, and I'm not whiteknighting anyone, I'm just pointing out the obvious. OP didn't have to stay for the date.
>Don't use "Well I don't have to be nice" as a defence and then get all upset when people call you out on being an immature retard, and probably don't start using condescending Tumblr terms and then get even more defensive when people call that retarded too and call you out on obvious newfaggotry.
You're still chiding me for what OP has done/said even after I've clarified I'm not OP. Are you brain dead?
"Well I don't have to be a nice" is not an excuse. It's just the truth. Cry some more.

No. 118156

>>118154
Yeah, you caught me, I'm in tears here, this is really getting to me. It's far more than just boredom and that little (1) in the top of the tab being the most interesting thing going on at midnight.

OP didn't have to be nice, sure, but it's common courtesy to do so, and it makes her a shitty person to act that way and then act like it's everyone else at fault.

You should really work on your reading comprehension if you though I was claiming you were OP in my last post too. I was pointing out how your defense was a fucking terrible one against the stuff people had accused them of being.

Also, anonymous forum, I have no idea which posts in this thread were you, so am just going off the general tone of posts agreeing with you that aren't clearly OP.

Please learn what projection is before you just throw the term around too, nothing I did even hints at projection.

No. 118157

>>118153
I forgot to add this (because you're kind of an idiot, let me clarify that I'm >>118154 off the bat):
>No shit I can't tell exactly which poster you are.
I'd think someone who spergs out (albeit at the wrong person) about the difference between an entire board and a thread would realize that the specific post/poster they're responding to is who they are (especially when I already pointed out in >>117960 that I didn't do whatever bullshit you're spewing because I'm not OP).
Multiple people think you're a fucking idiot dude.

No. 118158

>>118157
>I'd think someone who spergs out (albeit at the wrong person) about the difference between an entire board and a thread

Who was sperging out? I simply pointed out that OP was a moron for trying to imply that others were just invaders from some other side when she clearly was extremely new herself.

And there's a big difference between knowing basic terminology and being able to pinpoint exactly who in the thread you are.

>Multiple people think you're a fucking idiot dude.


Oh shit, you and OP? You realise there's at least a dozen posts that agree with me, right? And that it doesn't fucking matter either way, because more people thinking something doesn't make it more right?

No. 118159

>>118156
>this is really getting to me.
Considering the essays you've been writing with such vitriol and rage, that much is clear.
>but it's common courtesy to do so,
>"muh common courtesy" again
No one cares. He was a sperg, she didn't like him. He probably posted a greentext about it on 4chan and the other posters licked his wounds by saying she was a dumb whore anyway. He will feel superior and vindicated for the fact, and his beliefs will strengthen. Meanwhile, OP got out of a shitty date and got to live her life. Everyone wins.
>it makes her a shitty person
Not being polite and trying to preserve other people's feelings 24/7 doesn't necessarily make you a shitty person, but okay.
>and then act like it's everyone else at fault.
Looks like she knows what she did and was pretty unapologetic about the whole thing. She doesn't care.
>You should really work on your reading comprehension if you though I was claiming you were OP in my last post too.
I'm pretty sure "Don't do [this thing]" implies you think the person did it. You just want me to be OP really badly for whatever reason. I never used "condescending Tumblr terms" or "get defensive", so why would you tell me that instead of saying "OP shouldn't have done [this thing]"? And you've already demonstrated you're mentally capable of that by typing "OP didn't have to be nice" and not "You didn't have to be nice". You just fucked up and accused the wrong people because you're dumb. No point trying to escape it.
> I was pointing out how your defense was a fucking terrible one against the stuff people had accused them of being.
But it's not. You have yet to point out a single thing wrong with what I said: You don't need to be polite. It's nice, but it's not the law.
>nothing I did even hints at projection.
top fucking kek, keep telling yourself that

No. 118160

>>118158
>Who was sperging out?
You, clearly. If you just said "It's a thread, not a board, you dumbfuck" and left it at that, you would've seemed less triggered.
>Oh shit, you and OP?
Me, OP, and all the other posts/people you foolishly assumed were either me or OP, and then felt the need to search out and link to as if they prove anything. That person doesn't even type similarly to me, they use all lower case.
>You realise there's at least a dozen posts that agree with me, right?
And more that disagree, to the point where you don't even know who is who (even when there are obvious markers).
>And that it doesn't fucking matter either way, because more people thinking something doesn't make it more right?
I didn't say it made anyone more "right", I'm saying that thinking we're all the same person makes you retarded.

No. 118161

>>118153
It doesn't start falling apart. For racism and sexism, it applies and generally is widely agreed upon by sociologists. That was a total fucking strawman. You think any discussion of race or sex must come from tumblr tier SJW fucktards. Well, it doesn't. Again, it's introductory sociology and if were ever forced to take a fucking humanities class, you would know that.

"For “reverse racism,” or racism against whites, to exist in the U.S., we would first have to reach racial equality in systemic and structural ways. We would have to pay reparations to make up for centuries upon centuries of unjust impoverishment. We would have to equalize wealth distribution, and achieve equal political representation. We would have to see equal representation across all job sectors and educational institutions. We would have to abolish racist policing, judicial, and incarceration systems. And, we would have to eradicate ideological, interactional, and representational racism."

http://sociology.about.com/od/Ask-a-Sociologist/fl/Can-Sociology-Help-Me-Counter-Claims-of-Reverse-Racism.htm

You don't know anything about sociology, please fuck off. It isn't a feminist concept, as I said. Racism and bias are not the same thing. Bias and sexism are not the same thing. Just because you don't know what you're talking and are using terms (incorrectly) while pretending to be knowledgeable because you're a "skeptical anti-SJW ehehe" doesn't make you right. I could give two fucks about women's studies or causes commonly taken up on tumblr, I'm just pointing out that you're completely incorrect in using racism or sexism when you mean bias.

No. 118162

>Considering the essays you've been writing with such vitriol and rage, that much is clear.

Kek, you talk about projection and then say shit like this? OP's a bit annoying, but I can guarantee that there's nothing rage induced or vitriolic about my posts, and 8 lines is hardly an essay.

>He probably posted a greentext about it on 4chan


As opposed to her, who made a thread on lolcow. Really not a great strawman to create.

>Not being polite and trying to preserve other people's feelings 24/7 doesn't necessarily make you a shitty person, but okay.


Once again, never said this, but ghosting someone mid date combined with her attitude kind of does.

>You just want me to be OP really badly for whatever reason.


You're the only one who's talking about you being OP at this point, I got posters mixed up, didn't push the issue after you pointed out I did, and you've just clung to it.

>But it's not. You have yet to point out a single thing wrong with what I said: You don't need to be polite. It's nice, but it's not the law.


Okay? I've never claimed it is. It's not illegal to be a shit person, but that doesn't all of the sudden make you being one excusable.

>top fucking kek, keep telling yourself that


Seriously, what did I project?

>>118160
>If you just said "It's a thread, not a board, you dumbfuck" and left it at that, you would've seemed less triggered.

That would have just left the point I was raising completely unmade and have been pointless.

>Me, OP, and all the other posts/people you foolishly assumed were either me or OP,


Please, all the posts I quoted bar maybe one or two were very clearly OP, and I admitted that I was going by the general tone of the posts agreeing with OP or you.

>That person doesn't even type similarly to me, they use all lower case.


hi its another person here and i just wanted to let you know that ur dumb lmao

>I didn't say it made anyone more "right", I'm saying that thinking we're all the same person makes you retarded.


Not once have I said that?

Seriously, you accuse me of being mad and then comeback with these very clearly upset posts filled with fallacies. Go take a walk or some shit dude.

No. 118164

>>118162
>Kek, you talk about projection and then say shit like this?
Do you know what projection means?
>OP's a bit annoying, but I can guarantee that there's nothing rage induced or vitriolic about my posts, and 8 lines is hardly an essay.
So annoying you stayed in the thread for 2 days and then went so insane you couldn't tell obviously different people apart, even after they pointed out who they were very clearly.
>As opposed to her, who made a thread on lolcow. Really not a great strawman to create.
Not a strawman. Do you even know what that word means at all? Also, I wasn't even implying there was something wrong with him posting about it.
>Once again, never said this, but ghosting someone mid date combined with her attitude kind of does.
What was wrong with her attitude? That she used the word "mansplaining" and it set off tumblr flashbacks for you?
>You're the only one who's talking about you being OP at this point,
You tried to defend yourself by saying "Oh well there are so many people who agree with her, of course I can't tell them apart!" and now that that's fallen apart, you're pretending you didn't try kek.
>I got posters mixed up, didn't push the issue after you pointed out I did, and you've just clung to it.
Yes, you did push the issue by further accusing me of shit I already clarified I didn't do. I've already explained why telling someone "don't do something" implies you think they're guilty of that thing, so either you didn't read, or I dunno.
>Seriously, what did I project?
You're being way more defensive than anyone I've seen thus far ITT, but you accused me of being "upset" and "defensive".
>That would have just left the point I was raising completely unmade and have been pointless.
Your "point" was just you sperging out over semantics, as I said. It wasn't valuable to the discussion whatsoever.
>Please, all the posts I quoted bar maybe one or two were very clearly OP, and I admitted that I was going by the general tone of the posts agreeing with OP or you.
What "general tone"? We have separate syntaxes. We just both think you're dumb.
>hi its another person here and i just wanted to let you know that ur dumb lmao
Why would OP or myself switch typing styles for no reason? Unless you're going to go down the very messy "Everyone who disagrees with me is the same person samefagging!" path, you're getting really sad.
>Not once have I said that?
You just admitted to getting posters mixed up. Alzheimer's, much?
>Seriously, you accuse me of being mad and then comeback with these very clearly upset posts filled with fallacies. Go take a walk or some shit dude.
How are they upset? All I've done to this point is say "You don't have to be nice, and I'm also not OP" and you just continued going full autismo.
>Go take a walk or some shit dude.
You should take your own advice. Also, you used "dude" right after I did. This means we have the same "general tone" and are undoubtedly the same person arguing with themselves. Spooky.

No. 118165

>>118161
>Racism and bias are not the same thing. Bias and sexism are not the same thing.

If you have a belief that leads you to discriminate against another group, you are being discriminatory, correct?

Racism and sexism are just specific forms of discrimination.

Some blog piece by a "sociology expert" doesn't change this, nor do some fringe intellectual movements that are heavily, heavily disputed by many groups, and are attempting to change the definitions of words for no real reason.

For your definition to be correct, you'd have to argue that if I went to say, Uganda, a country where white people are absolutely the minority and don't have very much power at all and started killing every black person I found for the reason "I fucking hate niggers and think the world would be a better place without those subhuman animals on its surface", that it wouldn't be racist, because I lack any methodical power there.

Or that say, if the Black Panthers came back and started killing everyone who wasn't black, developing power and becoming a major influence, that they would only actually become a racist group after they had enough power to be more powerful than the government, even if they were doing the exact same things before and after.

It completely falls apart when taken out of the very specific examples that are used to support the theory, hence why it's not really taken very seriously, and why people mock you for acting condescending while saying it's an objectively correct way to think about it.

No. 118167

>>118165
>Uganda, a country where white people are absolutely the minority and don't have very much power at all
A former European colony that still pays colonial tax to the white country that took over them in the first place? Uh…bad example.

No. 118169

>>118164
>Do you know what projection means?

Yep, it means that you're attempting to claim that I have a trait to redirect attention away from you possessing that trait.

You've claimed my posts are full of rage and vitriol, then replied with a very emotional post yourself. Even if it's not projection, it's incredibly hypocritical.

>then went so insane you couldn't tell obviously different people apart, even after they pointed out who they were very clearly.


I mixed up one post, and you've focused on it non-stop since. I really don't get what point you're trying to prove here.

>Do you even know what that word means at all


You're creating a false image of what went on in order to make it easier to attack.

And the point was clearly intended as an insult, you're not fooling anyone by going "OH I didn't mean anything bad by it :^)"

>What was wrong with her attitude?


Refusing to admit any responsibility or wrongdoing, constantly resorting to childish insults when people point out that she was shitty and very clearly hasn't spent enough time here to integrate properly, incredibly immature reactions in other ways to people calling her out. Lots of stuff.

>You tried to defend yourself by saying "Oh well there are so many people who agree with her, of course I can't tell them apart!"


Where did I say this? I said I can't tell exactly which posts in the thread you are, because I can't. You're the only one talking about you being OP.

>Yes, you did push the issue by further accusing me of shit I already clarified I didn't do.


But I didn't?

>I've already explained why telling someone "don't do something" implies you think they're guilty of that thing, so either you didn't read, or I dunno.


Sure, poor wording, but my intent was clear, and I clarified it already in case it wasn't. It does also apply to you though, why say "you don't have to be nice" and then hit me with a rant about how I'm wrong for not being nice to OP?

>Your "point" was just you sperging out over semantics, as I said.


But it wasn't, it was just pointing out that OP was projecting her newness onto others, and should really stop doing that when she's so new to chans full stop that she doesn't know what a thread is.

>It wasn't valuable to the discussion whatsoever.


It was a passing remark at the end of my post.

>What "general tone"? We have separate syntaxes. We just both think you're dumb.


First off, that's not what tone means in this context, and secondly, cheers for just admitting that I was actually correct in my assumption that it was just you and OP that I'd quoted.

>Why would OP or myself switch typing styles for no reason?


I never claimed you would, just was pointing out that "I'm not them, I have a different posting style!" is a silly argument. You are the only one saying that I was ever accusing anyone of samefagging, all because I mixed up who'd posted a single post.

>How are they upset?


It's in your tone, I really don't care that much to post a bunch of quotes for you to deny it though.

>You should take your own advice.


Why? I'm not particularly bothered by what's going on here.

>This means we have the same "general tone" and are undoubtedly the same person arguing with themselves. Spooky.


Please learn what words actually mean before you try to mock me for using them. General tone of a discussion doesn't mean that the whole discussion was written in the exact same style.

No. 118170

>>118167
Yeah, perhaps, I just listed the first African country that came to mind honestly.

Change it to Zimbabwe instead, I know that white people were insanely socially prosecuted over there.

No. 118173

>>118169
>Yep, it means that you're attempting to claim that I have a trait to redirect attention away from you possessing that trait.
Which is exactly what you're doing.
>You've claimed my posts are full of rage and vitriol, then replied with a very emotional post yourself. Even if it's not projection, it's incredibly hypocritical.
How were my posts emotional? If you don't care to explain your point, why even bring it up?
>I mixed up one post, and you've focused on it non-stop since. I really don't get what point you're trying to prove here.
You mixed up more than one post, and still insisted on that mix-up after it was clarified twice.
>You're creating a false image of what went on in order to make it easier to attack.
So, you don't know what a strawman (ie, an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent) is.
My image isn't false, either. OP didn't like the date, so she ghosted him. From what she said, he was exactly the type of person who would do what was described therein, and even then I stated those things as "probable", not fact.
>And the point was clearly intended as an insult, you're not fooling anyone by going "OH I didn't mean anything bad by it :^)"
What makes you believe it was intended as an insult? I mentioned it offhandedly, and said they both "won" in that scenario. It sounds more like you personally are offended. Did I strike a nerve somehow?
>Refusing to admit any responsibility or wrongdoing, constantly resorting to childish insults when people point out that she was shitty and very clearly hasn't spent enough time here to integrate properly
Did she do those things on the date? Sounded like he didn't mind her company until she left.
>But I didn't?
But you did, and I've outlined how you did so like twice now.
>Sure, poor wording, but my intent was clear, I clarified it already in case it wasn't. It does also apply to you though,
No, it really wasn't and your "clarification" really was just an excuse tbh. It doesn't apply to me, either.
>why say "you don't have to be nice" and then hit me with a rant about how I'm wrong for not being nice to OP?
When did I ever do that? I only said "you don't have to be nice", I never said shit about you being "wrong for not being nice to OP". Ironically, this is an actual example of a strawman.
>First off, that's not what tone means in this context,
I didn't define "tone" at all in any context within that sentence. Top reading comprehension.
>and secondly, cheers for just admitting that I was actually correct in my assumption that it was just you and OP that I'd quoted.
I didn't "admit" anything, I was speaking within the context of your weird belief that only me and OP could possibly disagree with you. And even if I did, how am I to "admit" anything when none of us actually know which posters are which?
>I never claimed you would, just was pointing out that "I'm not them, I have a different posting style!" is a silly argument.
It isn't, though. If you disagree that posting style can be a marker for a poster, you're probably new. It's certainly better than the idea that everyone with similar opinions in a thread must be the same person, kek.
>You are the only one saying that I was ever accusing anyone of samefagging, all because I mixed up who'd posted a single post.
Is English your second language? I never said that, I said that the only way that part of your post makes sense is if you're going to accuse people of samefagging. You're dragging things out even further, and accusing me of doing that.
>It's in your tone, I really don't care that much to post a bunch of quotes for you to deny it though.
So, you have absolutely no way to back up your argument and prove you're not projecting your analpain?
>Why? I'm not particularly bothered by what's going on here.
Sure, you're not.
>Please learn what words actually mean before you try to mock me for using them.
This coming from the person who doesn't know what a strawman is. Hypocritical as fuck, m8.
>General tone of a discussion doesn't mean that the whole discussion was written in the exact same style.
It's certainly more valid than your poor attempt to make me and OP into the same person based on some vague, as of yet undefined idea of "general tone" and the idea that it's impossible/unlikely for people who disagree with you to be separate from each other.

No. 118180

>>118165
Specific forms of discrimination that require power to meet the definitions of racism and sexism. Racism and sexism is bias AND power. It's the defining difference between bias/prejudice and racism or bias/prejudice and sexism. It's not just one sociology expert. It's widely agreed upon in the field of sociology. IF society was COMPLETELY restructured, yes, but without total restructuring of society, it can't be racism.

"While individual persons of color may well discriminate against a white person or another person of color because of their race, this does not qualify as racism according to our definition because that person of color cannot depend upon all
the institutions of society to enforce or extend his or her personal dislike. Nor can he or she call upon
the force of history to reflect and enforce that prejudice. . . . History provides us with a long record of white people holding and using power and privilege over people of color to subordinate them, not the
reverse."
(Paula S. Rothenberg. Defining Racism and Sexism)

This definition is often included and quoted in sociology textbooks. Prejudice against whites by a few individual blacks in a society that favors and is structured to benefit whites isn't RACISM. That was my point. You were and are wrong in using "racism" or "sexism" to be mean prejudiced, and having specialty studies like "women's studies" in a society primarily governed by men isn't prejudiced, and it's especially not sexist, as you claimed, especially since people aren't FORCED to take women's studies. Specialties aren't discriminatory, they're just specialty courses, like photography or medicine, etc. You've honestly got to be seriously fucking retarded to think specialty studies are sexist or racist. I don't take social sciences particularly seriously either, but these are basic, agreed upon definitions and you're using these terms incorrectly. Don't pretend like it's widely disputed, or that you'd even know what is and isn't disputed in the field of sociology when you're not even knowledgeable enough to use the correct phrasing or the distinctions between terms in the first place.

No. 118183

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>>118180
>Racism and sexism is bias AND power.

Go back to your echo chamber, Tumblr.
Also, please define "person of color" and "white."

No. 118219

>>118173
I honestly have no idea what you're even trying to argue, so I'm not going to bother replying to you.

>>118180
You can't use "If you don't agree with my theories it's because you know nothing!" as an argument.

Academic fields are driven by people disagreeing, and I wouldn't go around acting like an expert because you took an intro to humanities at some shitty uni that taught you about racism and sexism instead of things you'd actually need to be introduced to in order to do a humanities course.

Good job ignoring my examples where the theory falls apart, too, that kind of supports my claim that it's pretty indefensible outside middle class America.

And once again, you can't just redefine words to fit your agenda. Racism and sexism are just specific forms of discrimination, based on race or sex. There's nothing more to it, never has been, and some morons trying to redefine it for no reason won't change this.

No. 118220

>>118219
Also, where the hell did I claim that womens studies were sexist?

No. 118221

>>118219
>"I'm not going to bother replying to you"
>replies anyway
Alright.

No. 118224

>Bitter feminazi gets dragged and starts QQing because she didn't receive the asspats and attention she wanted
More news at 9

No. 118258

This would've been fine in any of our relationship/venting threads. Don't make new threads just to blog.



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