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No. 1149837

Hello, it has occurred to me that a lot of us really have had horrible experiences with therapists and the psychology field in general. This thread is to discuss exactly that, either from personal experience or the way people have seemingly gotten worse after "therapy" (like Pixielocks). Discuss away.

No. 1149841

So actually one of my personal cows is a therapist, though I've never gone to her. Would that be appropriate for this thread? I don't wanna intrude on any anons venting so I thought I'd ask

No. 1149842

I do trust therapists but I've had very bad ones in the past. One of them told me that if I wanted to kill myself I should just do it and stop pussyfooting. Guess who attempted suicide one day after kek
>>1149841
I think it fits!

No. 1149843

>>1149841
OP here, yes go ahead nonny

No. 1149852

A gay scrote I once knew wanted to become a therapist and he was one of the most annoying, misogynistic, self-centered, person I met. He would talk shit about people behind their backs yet wants to help people with their mental illness? Good luck to whoever gets him.

No. 1149854

one of my earlier therapists spent eons gaslighting me for my own parents abuse and then bodyshamed me for my ed in my teens, the latter was the final straw with her. that bitch also got me addicted to ssris from a young age

i am glad to have my current therapist since highschool because i have had terrible ones before her, now that i'm in my mid 20s I've had a few rough spots but my current therapist has been with me through many misdiagnosis's and my growing and changing, like a lost mom. i love her and i'm glad to have her, too bad i spent my formative years having my brain fucked up by the other ones

No. 1149858

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Not really a horrible experience but in high school I went to this random therapist and she literally listened to me talk about my problems then went "This is an ancient native story… Inside you there are two wolves." I couldn't believe it, I never went back. It was so funny.

No. 1149861

>>1149852
The only thing gay men love more than rectal expansion is drama. They infest psychiatry for this reason

No. 1149862

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>>1149843
Where do I even begin with this? Kek.
I was in the market for a new therapist and this one woman stood out to me as a black woman. I liked the practice message on her psychologytoday profile but after a little digging I ran for the hills. So many bad reviews, and she responds to each one personally, either gaslighting the reviewer or leaving Bible verses. She uploads selfies to her Google business profile and got a fucking fiber optic statue of herself made, as you can see in picrel. There were so many red flags that scream narc to me. She served in the military and brings it up constantly and signs all her posts with her rank. I feel bad for the people who had to put up with her shitty practice but looking into her has been one wild ride and I'm happy I get to finally share it here

No. 1149863

Psychology is a load of bs, therapists and psychs are almost always not equipped, they are no better than some rando on the street. What a load of bullshit. I laugh everytime I've been told to go to therapy in earnest. KEK!

No. 1149868

>>1149862
this is fucking hysterical

No. 1149872

>>1149862
>Queen Angel Warrior
>Fiber optic statue of herself
Holy shit anon. KEK indeed.

No. 1149877

When i was a teenager still going to therapy as my parents wished, my first therapist was completely unable to empathize with me. After telling her about academic and home-life stress and asking what kind of move I should make (of course keeping my severe issues under wraps until I could gauge my level of privacy with her), she told me “i have to speak to your dad first” and wouldn’t talk to me further. I left her room in silent tears and later my dad told me “i’m really only looking to see patients who are TRYING to improve their lives, not just complain.” There are therapists who are completely unable to feel sympathy and empathy for their patients but are still practicing under the guise of “tough love”, which I guess could work for certain people but not during the first fucking session

No. 1149880

>>1149863
they can be helpful in the capacity as possibly a wise friend (if they are good, which they usually are not, at all), pointing out potential behaviors of others that are detrimental to you, or for mediation purposes or highlighting certain events that may unknowingly have lead to trauma, but for 98% of them their advice is usually horrible and to act like it's such serious science is a load of BS. i think it can be helpful for mediation purposes primarily or mending relationships, mostly to help with healthy communication, boundaries, and expectations, or for people who have no common sense and need their shit spelled out for them, or for those who just want to vent, but that's mostly it. but for most of them, they train women to have no boundaries. a lot of them reinforce really bad female socialization and offer a lot of scrote apologia.

No. 1149884

>>1149837
As a teenager I had pretty bad trichotillomania (hair pulling). My mom forced me to see an antagonistic and terrible therapist every week, and one day the lady told me that it would be impossible to stop pulling my hair on my own, that I couldn’t succeed without her. I was so angry at her arrogance and presumption that I never pulled another hair again. At my following sessions she’d ask me how much hair I’d pulled, and I’d tell her none, and she never believed me. Still hate her guts.

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>>1149868
>>1149872
I also suspect she is the only one running her own Facebook page and compliments her own posts about herself

No. 1149893

I stopped seeing my therapist after she told me that my mom should let my grandparents buy an RV for my meth addicted cousin. My cousin is homeless, lost her license and it was a disaster waiting to happen. They still bought the RV and it got confiscated by the police.

No. 1149913

One therapist once told me that I had HPD "just like her" because I was wearing a yellow beret in that session (to be fair my hair was also blue but that's besides the point). She said she "knew how to spot an HPD just by looking at them" and then proceeded to tell me the HPD symptom criteria and I kept insisting I fit none of them, because seriously, I've never been hypersexual towards people or thought they were my friends immediately (I'm actually a paranoid bitch that doesn't trust people). Then she kept INSISTING that I must be HPD like her because when someone denies to have HPD it means they actually have it.
I had to go back for 2 more sessions because this bitch took more money out of me in the form of making me take a test to prove she was right and I had HPD. When the results were finally in she was like "oops I think you'll have to take it again but I'll charge you half the price this time". I'm sure she wanted to take even more money from me because the results didn't say I had HPD.

No. 1149917

>>1149913
Also I had a lipstick smudge on my hand in one of the sessions (was trying some new ones, formula was long lasting, unfortunately) and she kept insisting it was a kiss. I said "NO" but she didn't believe me.

No. 1149921

>>1149913
Can I ask what age she was and if this was recent? I have seen a lot more theyby munchie millennials getting into the mental health field because of course they are, and while I kind of appreciate their more expanded empathy vs gen x and boomer therapists, I worry about experiencing this sort of thing

No. 1149927

>>1149921
Probably an older millenial, she looked 30 something back then and had a 6 year old kid, I saw her around 2016 me thinks.

No. 1149940

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Not completely about therapy per say, but when I was in high school I had to deal with a therapist who was toxic positivity incarnate. I was dealing with the fact that I was essentially an outcast and possibly autistic. Her solution was for me to ignore the fact that everyone hated me and behave in a cartoonish gleeful manner. She also made me do a session about domestic violence that I had no business being a part of. I did not want a bf at the time and at a my current age still do not desire a relationship. It was incredibly awkward and I couldn't understand why she thought I needed to be there since I will be at risk of domestic violence for the fact that I do not date and I have a habit of cutting people off over small thing. There was also this one time where she had me do a drawing and I randomly decided to do a crappy anime drawing and she was very aggressive in trying to get me to explain my thought process behind it and insisted there was a meaning behind it.

No. 1149967

>>1149880
This is exactly how I feel about it, anon. Like, exactly. Just read a cbt work book honestly.
>to act like it's such serious science is a load of BS
Seriously!

No. 1149973

My sister is a therapist and she is also the most mentally ill person I know. She fried her brain on drugs because her nose is big therefore she caused mass destruction in our family because we couldnt afford to shell out to get her a nosejob despite being dirt poor. She's self centered and is a terrible listener because everything must revolve around her. I feel bad for anyone who takes service from her. I swear it is always the worst people who want to do social jobs.

No. 1149987

My cousin has now started to give therapy ro patients. This is the woman who thinks masturbation is a sin, looks down on people who are poor, thinks every man, single or taken, wants her, every woman is jealous of her and wants to ruin her, and promiscous women are worthless, thinks it's the woman's fault if a man cheats. She is somehow always in the middle of drama. I am so sorry for the poor fucks she's seeing.

No. 1150027

I kind of wanna vent about my therapist here because he seems more and more quackish every time I see him but I know you guys would wanna slap me upside the head for still seeing him. I just can't bring myself to stop because I actually kind of like him and feel like he's my friend even though I know he's not. It's just that I've told him so much stuff about me over the past almost 3 years that I really don't want to start over with someone new. Also I don't have my parents insurance anymore, only medicaid, so I'm pretty limited.

But some of the things he's said are that you can cure Parkinson's disease and MS with positive thinking. He brought up the example of some guy named RJ Spina who allegedly cured his severed spine with thoughts. Oh and he also has talked shit about chemo multiple times and said you should cure cancer with a good diet instead. I brought up that some people like Farrah Fawcett have tried alternative cancer treatments and ended up dying and he was just like "everyone dies". No shit. It's like he doesn't see that argument can go both ways.

Another time he brought up the double slit experiment thing and how "we create reality with our minds" because the particles don't take form until they're observed (but I recently learned why that's bogus and I'm gonna explain it if he ever brings that up again).

And it's weird because he really didn't seem like that for probably the first year I was seeing him. And he acts like he doesn't trust doctors either, even though in the past he had me talk to a psychiatrist there to get prescribed Zoloft. Like why do you believe in Zoloft for depression but you can magically cure physical ailments with thoughts… k.

I really do like talking to him about certain things but we only get 50-55 minutes together and it seems like the conversation usually goes in a different direction than I want it to and I don't get to say everything I want to.

Honestly there's more stuff I could go on about, but I don't wanna open up about it right now. At this point I think I'm more going to him for someone to talk to because I don't really have close friends.

No. 1150083

I haven't been to a therapist in years even though I need it because last time I tried to go to a new therapist, the lady ignored all of what I told her about my mental health experiences and was convinced I was having hallucinations because I said I don't always feel like myself (when my depressive episodes are bad).

>>1150027
He sounds like a crackpot but I guess as long as you're not getting medical advice from him and it feels like it helps you by talking to him it's fine….? Personally I would have dropped him a long time ago, but yeah its a struggle to find someone new.

No. 1150088

I never went to a therapist, becaue I can not trust them. Due to some stuff from friends.

this is going to be super long so brace yourselfs.

I know some people with mental health problems. BPS, shizo, depression, some are asperger and some have problems but refuse to get a diagnosis.

One Boderline "friend" who was a chronological liar, abused her "boyfriend" and talked shit of everyone behind their back.
She told us that she only got together with her boyfriend because she was bored and that she did not love him. That she liked to act upsed and angry with him so he feels bad and then go to bed, becaus he can't sleep when they had an unsolved argument.
She dropped him as soon as she found a different guy, but instead of being cruel she was obsessed over him. It was so weird. We kicked her out of our group pretty quickly.
I know many of her action was due to her borderline, but she told us she learned how to handle it and she does not need help anymore.
From another friend who worked with her told me, that her boss ordert her to see a therapist, who had to decide if she could still work there. Apparently there were lots of weird incident. The therapist told her she was fine and all was good.
Guess what it wasn't.

Another BPS one had multiple suicide attempts after her therapist let her go, because she was healed…
She is very unstable, hypersexual and a drug addict. She stopped going to a therapist because "It does not help anyway." I lost contact with her after that.
I am aware that BPS is one of the most difficult illnes to handle as an therapist. But for crying out loud. There should be at least somewhere were these people can go.

The friend with schizophrenia, had a really long way and many medication, that destroyed her. Many therapist told her she does not try enough. One sayed that: "She can go kill herself right now, if she does not want try."
Years later she went to a neurologist and they found out what she has at some degree. No therapist did that. Later she told me: "I tried my whole life to get better, to be free of this. Now I know that I can not be completely healed. I have to live with that. It was not me who did not try enough. It was the therapists."
She is now under the right medication and very happy with a family.

One friend with asperger told me that she went to 13 therapists until she found one that was good. It took half her lifetime until she found one. She still goes to them. So that is kind of a good ending?

these are the most extreme cases that I know. I do not want to make this more longer that it needs to be.
Just these and some more are the reasons for my decision to not see one.

No. 1150094

>>1149837
I've tried therapy twice in my life, once I basically made a deal with my high school where they'd ignore all my missed classes if I started working with a therapist after I've been skipping them for over a month. My parents found me a creepy bald man with a snakesoilsalesman demeanor and the fakest smile I've seen, and he was extremely condescending after my parents left, obviously unhappy he was dealing with a school girl instead of the epic military training he'd done in the past and talked about for like half an hour.
The second time I took advantage of the hours universal healthcare provides, but the dude was obviously fucking zoning out and was only interested in my past relationships even though I went there to talk about my anxiety about uni and my future. Then he convinved me to go to one of his drama-acting therapies, which obviously cost a pretty penny and all the people there were working on serious abuse and trauma, so I felt out of place and left him. He kept sending me texts for another two weeks to come back.

No. 1150097

I was sent to a therapist after reporting my father for abuse and neglect, because obviously something must be wrong with you (all they could find was sperginess). She compared her fear of dogs to my hatred of men and thought she had to give me therapy to get over my hatred of them. In the end we were talking more about her fear of dogs, than my trauma. She also said that men hitting you is a sign of love and that they care. I ended up asking her for copies of her studybooks, to give myself therapy for depression, since she was obviously useless. The next therapist I saw said that lesbianism is a sign of having a male demon inside me and that I should go to church. The only good mental health professional I've seen was this based psychiatrist and she said that my hatred of scrotes is no problem. She also allowed me to participate in new trials for PTSD research, which was really cool and helpful.

No. 1150101

>>1150027
I kind of understand what you mean with not wanting to leave. It would be a huge new start and change. I hate both of these.

No. 1150102

>>1150100
Amen to that ano.

No. 1150103

>>1150097
Every therapist I’ve had has either talked more about themselves or used their own political views or life experience to judge me and my story. Therapy is only helpful if you have a good therapist, and most are fucking useless. It might be a meme but exercise, fresh air and healthy eating are genuinely better for mental health than some 2 bit “professional” who probably has mental health problems themselves that they refuse to accept or acknowledge.

No. 1150110

>>1150103
>>1150100
Yeah, that's what her studybooks said anyway. Just fake it til you make it, keep doing stuff. I tried really hard to eat healthily and exercised like crazy to get the anger under control. Martial arts is also a legal excuse to beat men up, which is how I dealt with a lot of my anger.

No. 1150115

>>1150110
It really is. Exercise produces endorphins. It chemically changes your mood. Every “depressed” scrote or lazy zoomer who shits on people for telling them to go outside just desperately wants to be seen as some sort of fragile mentally ill waif who needs extensive hospital treatment but I swear to god most of it is a scam. They don’t want to be told they need to take responsibility for their own health, they want to turn themselves over and become a ward of the state until they magically feel better. It’s pathetic. I’ve had so many horrible therapists I genuinely believe it is a scam and I did not start feeling better until I started exercising every day.

No. 1150155

I remember seeing one who yelled at me after I told her what I had eaten when I binged. I told her I wanted to lose weight and she told me to tell her what I ate in a day to improve my accountability. I did not think being held accountable meant being yelled at. I was a teenager at the time and she also would not even go through a workbook with me; I really felt that her intention was to humiliate me in these sessions, she would look at me with this vile smirk when I visibly got upset at the things she said to me.

No. 1150167

>>1150097
Jesus that sounds like a nightmare. Are you in a more conservative country by chance? The lesbianism one almost sounds like malpractice

No. 1150170

>>1150167
kek that's the weirdest thing, I'm actually in a quite progressive country. Which is why it annoys me that people assume that just because a country is technically progressive, it's going to be the same everywhere in that country. There are conservative or hyperreligious enclaves.

No. 1150209

>>1150115
>until I started exercising every day
what do you do for exercise? is it the same everyday?

No. 1150221

When I was 25 I was grieving the loss of my mother aswell as dealing with a sudden seperation. I got married too young in the first place and was not prepared to lose the two main people I loved so close to each other.. loss was my big issue. I had depression already and agoraphobia from a young age so I was isolated when they were both suddenly gone.

I attempted suicide, survived and was forwarded on to a free service that helps people in the weeks after their suicide attempt. You get up to 12 weeks of therapy sessions to hopefully get you on your feet again. Something like 3 weeks in the therapist wanted to talk about my gender. I had a shaved head. My mom died of cancer and I had started shaving my head back then in support. I kept up the habit afterwards because growing out hair is awkward and idc about hair too much. I can only guess that was the thing that left her with the impression all my problems were actually gender identity related..

Like I said I was isolated, I had nobody, I would go days without saying more than the word hello to people. Call me dumb but I was in a vulnerable state at that time and those 12 weeks of sessions turned into me seeking out a gender therapist afterwards at her recommendation and 2 years of my life was wasted barking up the wrong tree and being told I'm a person with gender identity disorder and need hormones (which I accessed and took for a year) FFS I was veeery newly dumped by my husband while at the height of grief for my mother. Why the fuck did anyone ever need to go digging for hidden reasons why I was suicidal?? I could scream looking back on that portion of my life.

No. 1150222

>>1150115
You're 100% right anon but there are cases in which you need some groundwork before you're able to do anything, so I'd have some compassion for people who temporarily are unable. Ultimately though, any kind of exercise, even as little as daily warmup/stretching or whatever, should be obligatory for anyone battling depression (and plenty other mental issues actually)

No. 1150227

>>1150221
>Something like 3 weeks in the therapist wanted to talk about my gender. I had a shaved head. My mom died of cancer and I had started shaving my head back then in support.
oh my fucking god. I'm sorry you had to go through this.

No. 1150256

>>1150221
>Why did they go looking for a reason
Because it's an easy solution which makes money but doesn't actually fix the problem since the problem is complex or can involve aspects of society institutions wish to uphold (often happens with womens depression over mens behaviour, etc).

No. 1150273

I'm biased against it, not because of bad experiences but because of the replication crisis. The data doesn't seem that strong to favor it outside of specific therapies (like exposure therapy). Lots of people are depressed due to external factors the therapist can't help with. Therapy is a way of papering over social injustices and a way of avoiding people giving people the help they really need. Like telling beleaguered workers to meditate instead of giving them better hours or pay. This is an interesting article:

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/feb/05/mental-health-aid-western-talking-cure-harm-good-humanitarian-anthropologist

>>1150221
I'm so sorry anon.

No. 1150336

I've been in therapy half my life at this point, 15 years. I've had a few good therapists that I felt were capable and good at their jobs, but I've also met a lot of nightmare therapists. A lot of them take things personally and have obvious bias that influence how they work. I feel like therapy doesn't work. 15 years and if anything my mental health has just gotten worse. Maybe it works if your problems are less complex or if it's something that can be easily medicated, but at this point I feel like I'm just going to therapy so someone checks I haven't offed myself yet.
>>1149913
I had something similar happened to me a couple of years back. I was into dying my hair pastel colors at the time and the therapist I was seeing told me I probably didn't like myself because I was dying my hair. Fair enough I guess if I was there for self esteem issues or something, but I was there to learn to manage my PTSD better. I like experimenting with hair and makeup as a way to be creative, and I don't feel like my "true self" is tied to what hair color I have. Not to mention I could clearly see the roots in her own bleach blonde hair, I should have thrown it back at her lol.

No. 1150348

>>1150273
They even use it as an excuse to not place children out of dangerous homes. Since CPS got backlash for taking too many kids away, they started to gaslight all of them instead.

No. 1150350

>16 years old, forced to see psychiatrist because suffering after a trauma
>fat middle aged scrote that tries to act "cool"
>asked me leading questions and smugly smiled at me
>brought mom into room after session and told her I was a lesbian (wtf) and have Asperger's
>gave me antidepressants after 1 session (never took them)
>mom laughed at me on the way home because my siblings and I used Aspie as an insult

No. 1150360

I have a real problem with self sabotage especially in my career. I tried everything on my own and eventually was suicidal enough to try therapy. I got a therapist with a set amount of sessions, and was very clear I needed skills to help get my career back on track and stop fucking myself over. The therapist said yes she had experience in that and she can help me.
It was weeks and weeks of absolutely gut wrenching talks about my childhood trauma. I honestly think I got retraumatised for some of it. Whenever I tried to bring up work related questions or situations she'd bring it back to my inner child.
At the time I thought I was healing and facing all my demons and shit. But looking back, absolutely nothing has changed. Except that I now resent my family a bit more after remembering how neglected I was growing up.
My self sabotaging is still out of control. I think therapy gives you the illusion of progress because it's difficult and draining, so you must be building something or working towards something.
I've seen someone on here say therapy is just secular "talk to your pastor" stuff and I think it's true. Therapists are just people, they can't do emotional surgery or rewire our realities. I don't think it's bad for everyone, but we need to stop saying therapy is the answer to everything from procrastination to psychosis.

No. 1150362

I've had horrible therapy but I don't know how to even articulate what I went through. Just know I had a therapist who told me to touch myself in the name of Jesus Christ.

No. 1150363

I've had about 20 therapists over the past 10 years or so and they were all mostly shit (i'm a sperg, hence the need for therapy)

- My first therapist who was male kept pressing teenage me to talk about sex and romance even though that wasn't relevant at all and I was clearly uncomfortable
- Several have broken the law to talk about me to other people outside of the session without my consent, one time with the excuse that it was just to my mom (who went behind my back to ask them, and I was in my 20s and legally an adult)
- one male therapist also broke the law, he was constantly complimenting me and one day suggested I contact him in private "not as a therapist".
- One kept calling me a "kid" and saying "when you grow up" despite me being in my mid 20s
- One agreed that I should kill myself, when I was a suicidal teen
- One (male) visibly held back laughter and looked very amused when I talked about how much I hated my body to the point of self harming and wanting to die
- One kept me from treating my social anxiety because I "failed" their test of "proving I wanted to get better" by forcing me to do something I literally couldn't do because of the anxiety, before I had received any kind of treatment for it.
- Been told I'm wrong "because you're autistic", when I didn't want to take sus medicines with bad side effects
- I asked for written proof that I was receiving therapy (needed it to be absent from school, for the therapy sessions) and the therapist straight up told me she thinks I wanted it just to be lazy and not got to school
- One (male) put my sessions in the middle of the "male only"-hours meant to encourage young boys to seek therapy, but since I was a girl I literally had to hide, and they made me leave through the back door so I wouldn't intimidate the boys. Made me feel like an unwanted freak, thanks.

No. 1150371

One therapist literally said I was exactly like my dad and would end up abusing any partner in my life. She said this when I was 13 and didn't even have dating experience yet. To this day this still makes me feel like yes one day I will inevitably become toxic and abusive.

No. 1150383

I had seen a therapist for being put in an outpatient agoraphobia group, and this was the best way to a referral. I ended up seeing a psychiatrist, some old lady who had the heaviest middle-eastern accent. She ended up glossing over why I was there and started asking me about my children. I told her I don't have any and didn't want any, so talking about children was moot. She started saying that I'm only saying that because I'm immature and it's my mother's fault that I think "I'd be a bad parent" and then diagnosed me with bipolar type one. My family doctor was so confused and offput by this diagnosis that she complained on my behalf. It was one appointment over zoom. How could that possibly be bipolar type one? Anyway, I started forcing myself into exposure therapy by doing chores for my extended family. What a farce. This is such a good thread

No. 1150386

>>1150222
You’re absolutely right, and not all mental health issues can be cured with lifestyle changes. They need therapy and somebody to work through those issues. Unfortunately most therapists are complete cunts, so that isn’t possible. A cunty therapist just makes you more mentally ill.

No. 1150389

>>1150383
That's terrible and a therapist also diagnosed my friend with bipolar randomly too, without even giving her information.

My own experience wasn't much better. She tried to set me up with her male patients and then tried to get me to download tinder. I'm sure there'd be a lot of men willing to use already unstable women on dating apps so I have no idea why she thought that was somehow smart.

No. 1150407

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>>1149858
God damn, I would have laughed out loud.

No. 1150416

>>1150383
I've been dealing with agoraphobia for a long time and I was so put off getting help. Any time I finally dragged myself out to go to an appt (feels like a big ordeal) They speak over you, insert talk of random disorders that don't match your symptoms or they act like it's so weird that an agorphobic is nervous at an appt?

When I was at my worst there was just no option to have cam appts and there was a 'home team' in my area that did home visits but they wouldn't add me to that service. I later befriended a woman with bpd who had regular home visits when she wasn't housebound in any way so why was I denied them at a time when I was very much housebound and in need of that specific type of appt? I fell between the cracks for years with no services offering anything I could engage with at my worst.
>Hi, I haven't left my house in over a year, I've probably left it a handful of times in the last 5 years, I need help
>ok just come to this clinic in a few months time and we'll sit you in a busy waiting room for a couple hours to steam first, if you ask to wait outside in a quiet spot we'll just pretend we didn't get your request, you need to suffer first or no appointment basically lol
Someone in the height of agoraphobia cannot do that. That's the whole problem in the first place. It made no sense to me that a mental health service had no clue how to approach it. Like you I've mostly just helped myself when I can but some of muh 'best years' I just wasted away between four walls.

No. 1150448

I had an older male therapist who tried to groom me as a teenager. He always complimented my looks and would invite me to visit his office during closing hours to hang out. He also had me on 5 different medications and never wanted to take me off any of them, even when I said they weren't working. He would just increase the dosages.

The rest of my therapists have been women, all incompetent as fuck. A trend of noticed with therapists is that they think they can handle deep seated traumas when really they're more suited for run of the mill mild depression and anxiety. Now I really don't trust therapists anymore, even though I probably need to see one again. I just haven't found one who actually gives a shit and knows what they're doing.

No. 1150457

What is it about these therapists? Why are they so bad?
Therapy is a job that requires you to talk to people. People-oriented persons would logically be the most interested in this field. However, in my experience, these are the types of people that are extremely annoying to deal with. They range from normal gal who likes to meet new people to thot >>1150389.
As a therapist, you get to hear people's stories and their deepest secrets. If you had to listen to difficult things all day, wouldn't you be drained? It seems as if the therapists in this thread aren't put together. >>1150094 greasy ex military guy, >>1150097 narcissist afraid of dogs, I could go on. Do you think these people who misdiagnose at every turn have a safe way of processing their emotions? These are not healthy people.
If you have sensitive information, narcissists want to know it. Self righteousness is on a spectrum, from religious zealout to genderspecial. The internet age has worsened this problem because people can easily get into social media bubbles, and if you're a narcissist, you're Always Right.
Cities have a problem; because they are more crowded, you get a higher population of crazy people.

My question is how much money do therapists make? And if they try and diagnose you with a disorder and get you to do testing, does that get them more money?

No. 1150467

>>1150407
I'd prefer the gay wolves over the male demon story

No. 1150546

>>1150389
One therapist told me once to just cheat on my gf and find someone new because I "needed more experience"

No. 1150550

>>1150546
Was it a male or female therapist? My friends therapist also told her to get with a guy. It's almost like they like pushing women out of their comfort zone. Wonder why.

No. 1150554

This sounds terrible and pickme of me to say, and the opposite of some experiences here, but I absolutely can’t stand having a woman therapist. It sounds crazy but the male therapists and doctors I’ve had feel like they genuinely listen to me, whereas every woman therapist I’ve talked to feels extra condescending, judgmental or rude for some reason, and I always leave feeling worse than I started. Idk if its just an unlucky coincidence or it’s my own personal bias or what.

I think the psychiatric field must attract at least 2 types of people: 1. people who want to genuinely help others and 2. people with control issues who want to feel important and “better” than other people

No. 1150555

>>1150550
A female therapist with a psychology degree that also called herself an "angel specialist". My mom forced me to go with her.

No. 1150580

>>1150554
This reminds me of Lainey/Kai having studied psychology or some shit. I don't think it really matters, there are enough horrible scrote therapists too, but I think it's easier for a therapist you share more things with (like the same sex) to take things really personally or project shit on you. Meanwhile scrote therapists are more likely to be paternalistic, creepy, gross, other problems.

No. 1150594

When using services before I've always been paired with a female therapist even without having to state I want that specifically. It's one 'old-fashioned' thing about my country that I actually appreciate. Intimate health and mental health… they tend to have women seeing you the vast majority of the time.

I had one woman weirdly stun me with her sudden question about csa (which I've never admitted to before) She asked me about it in the most unsympathetic way and just stared me down as I froze on the spot. I was floating on the ceiling. No joke my body went into shock at how unexpected and cold the question was. She just stared and stared and I felt no sense of understanding from her as my body is seizing at the mention of it. After all that I said a very unconvincing 'no' and that was it. If that had been a man.. I'd lose my shit so bad. I'd go off the rails.

No. 1150704

Speaking of bogus therapy, I recommend this video

No. 1150767

>>1150554
> 2. people with control issues who want to feel important and “better” than other people
Accurate. The anons mentioning toxic people in their personal lives becoming mental health professionals, I'm right there with you.
I have anxiety, PTSD, bit of an autist. I had a friend who had no patience for me. She'd mock me pretty badly, especially since I was further behind her in life and had trouble coping. I always got narcissist vibes from her. She cheated on her boyfriend with no regret, social media brags in the same way a lot of cows do, blame shifts when called out. She'd flip and ghost me for extended periods over nothing. Did a lot of volunteer work but it seemed more like for clout than for helping people. She's admitted as such a few times to me. She now works with autistic kids, actually using that one therapy that most of the ASD community hates so much, guess it's fitting kek.
I know people in personal lives are different than clients who you just see for work, but I feel like you need to be a patient, non-judgmental person for this job. I guess if you have your own issues it takes one to know one, but there are types of people who just should not be in this field imo.
My sister's ex was also a true cluster B mess and yet he was a social worker and worked with homeless shelters, and I heard stories of him cutting support off of people for no reason. Another particularly scummy ASPD I knew would use his psych degree to reassure people that he understood them to get closer to them and use their issues against them. And I'm still not even mentioning the awful psychiatrists I've dealt with. It's not uncommon that these types want to be in positions of power over vulnerable people so they can feel like they're in control of someone's fate. Guess you never know who is really in it for the right or wrong reasons. Stay safe, anons.

No. 1150780

i think a lot of psychology shit is untrue and reliant on scrote biases but attachment styles seem legit and ring true in many cases. what do you guys think? a lot of shit in relation to personality disorders is and seems like complete bogus, particularly in the way they are utilized to demonize women and "normal", non pathologized male behavior runs exactly in line with these "personality disorders" yet men are never diagnosed with them. funny.

No. 1150782

>>1150767
My friends' mom is a therapist, and every time that fact is brought up, my friend and I laugh and laugh.
I'm not exaggerating when I say she's one of the most judgmental, hypocritical, bitchy people I've ever met.
She's like an actual living cliche of the boomer/"Karen" memes, a total busybody who constantly gossips, gets into everyone's business, and then immediately talks crap or makes fun of people's appearances, clothes or hair once they leave the room. Actual mean girl shit coming from a middle-aged woman.
She'll say absolutely vile things to her family and then turns around and posts on social media about being an 'empath' and how rewarding it is to help people, haha. I couldn't imagine ever being her patient/client.

No. 1150789

>>1150780
Personality disorders do exist imo. I grew up surrounded by severely mentally I’ll people with diagnosis that they fit. The problem is most people want to label and diagnosis people around them. No one is interested in real science. BPD has an effect on the brain structure and Gabba why isn’t that part of the diagnosis criteria? Also you can’t diagnosis anyone with recent trauma, abuse or substance abuse within a year with a personality disorder. The problem with them too is they focus on making the person involved play pretended of a “healthy person” with no focus on actually helping them.

No. 1150792

>>1150782
AYRT sorry for editing so much kek.
That's just awful. I try to be understanding of others but I'm a gossip too, I'm on lolcow for fucks sake. And that's a big reason why I had no interest in pursuing therapy when I was going to get a psych degree. I felt like I wouldn't be unbiased going into it. It really does sound like she's just in it to fuel her nosiness and need for personal info and that's super fucked up. Wonder if you can leave a review tipping other people off

No. 1150881

the only time I found therapy to be a benefit is when I was still in school. if you're diagnosed with something they can write up stuff about your needs to help you in school and your school has to legally follow it (at least that's the law here). My school personally didn't wanna follow it and said my 'tism was a hoax and my mum only found out about how illegal it is to do that way later and it was too late to sue.
other than that the therapist was just mostly interested in gossip. Like me not being able to connect with anyone in school just turned into her being shocked that girls were sucking dick and drinking at 13yo.

No. 1150886

One therapist I had I told her hormonal birth control made me feel more depressed/emotionally unstable and she immediately shut me down and told me “that wasn’t possible” because she had a great experience on hormonal birth control. She would also get upset at me and angry when I couldn’t vocally say how I was feeling because I was “analyzing” it and avoiding my feelings. I’ve seen about 5 therapists and all of them sucked ass.

I actually was in grad school to be a therapist and after seeing what shit they were teaching, I dropped out.

No. 1150890

>>1150886
Spill the beans, anon. I am curious to see what they're teaching now, if you can share

No. 1150894

Going to therapy 100% made me worse, quitting all therapy and focus on mental health actually made me better.

Weird how stewing in my own misery made me miserable kek.

No. 1150912

I have moaned over a few years here about this bitch of a therapist I had.

I personally do not think she is officially accredited, however she was recommended. She also specialises in holistic therapies and reiki. Before we hated each other she kept inviting me on reiki retreats and said I was empathetic and could help others. Yet she never fucking helped me.

My dad arranged for my step mum and myself to go to her to resolve why my step mum is such a weirdo and doesn't allow my dad to have a proper relationship with myself and my brother, however in their opinion my brother went off the deep in and didn't deserve therapy or that he would just refuse. He went before and told me he lied about a lot of things because he couldn't be bothered. Anyway, there has been an on going issue with our family dynamics. So I was there for family issues, this is important for later. My depression was touched on but at that time I was already taking steps to be happy and my dad was supporting me with a career change to the annoyance of his wife. So my dad was supporting me and he wanted basically for his wife to be OK with it but she never is because she's a gold digger to be blunt. She can't have kids and she's just a nasty bitch honestly. She doesn't just come between my dad and family but he's vented to me that she makes his friends uncomfortable and she insisted on always being present because she has no life of her own.

Anyway, the therapist is shit. Months go back and if anything my step mum is constantly amped up and starting fights even receiving unhinged hand written letters like Rachel in friends. It was full of spelling mistakes, and crazy claims. One line claimed that seven year olds are fully developed mentally and that my brother and myself haven't needed my dad in a very long time. If I find the letter I'll take a pic because mental. I eventually stopped going to the therapist after I asked her point blank what my step mum's problems were. She said that was confidential. I asked how can I make it so that my step mum feels comfortable for me to be able to see my dad more regularly. She said she couldn't tell me. At this point I had enough. The sessions were draining and frustrating. She kept wanting to blame my actual mother for a lot of things but I have a step dad and he treats me like his own kid and my mother and his ex wife get on so she's hardly the issue.

Fast forward a few months and I start dating this guy after ghosting my therapist. I didn't even tell her I wasn't coming back I just didn't think my dad should have to pay for someone to not fix something. The guy I was dating had an ex gf that was still in the picture, they weren't fucking or anything she had got pregnant to someone else and then he killed himself so she was always sniffing around my bf at the time. She was also instigating shit and calling me names and I'd never met her before. I was like why is she saying this and then she mentioned my therapy and how I was difficult and a bitch and I was like how tf did she know I was in therapy. Turns out my therapist took her for a reiki retreat and the ex gf was now a holistic therapist too telling people how to heal themselves by meditating their dna to evolve. She had various blogs about her holistic and pure ways and she would write terrible poetry about how amazing and special she was. Meanwhile she was not being kind and considerate to my mental anguish of having to deal with my step mother. My therapist also awarded my old landlord with a reiki certificate and to me, it's just mad. A lot of communities have these little parasocial holistic healers praying on them and wanting to know all their demons just so their boring lives don't seem so shit. It's like asking the Avon lady to give you life advice. Just fucking weird

No. 1151039

Just a question but how many of you went to a licensed therapist or an actual psychologist with a doctorate?

No. 1151046

>>1151039
all of mine have been licensed psychs, never therapists. they've all been awful.

No. 1151057

>>1150360
If this is a new issue for you, then yeah it's not childhood trauma. But if it is an older issue, do you think reading about complex PTSD could help you? My home life had issues and I found Pete Walker's Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving a good read, like how he describes 4F responses.

>>1150088
>One friend with asperger told me that she went to 13 therapists until she found one that was good.
This is why as an autist with a complicated history I have mostly given up on therapy and stuck to reading psychology and self-help books. Most therapists won't get me and I will struggle to explain myself.

No. 1151088

>>1151039
I'm >>1150097
All of the clinical psychologists/therapists were contracted by the state mental health care service and covered by insurance. Both psychiatrists I've seen had a doctorate, one was an idiot misogynistic scrote who prescribed meds willy nilly, the other was a based woman who was really into trials and really up-to-date on research, she genuinely geeked out at things.

No. 1151093

>>1150886
Birth control is terrible poison. Fucks up your mood and body. If your man asks you to get on birth control because he doesn't like condoms you should drop him immediately

No. 1151102

>>1150894
Same for me. I had been in therapy for so long and on dozens of drugs. Nothing really helped and out of all those I had like one good therapist. Meds made me worse, but doctors didn't believe me. Finally quitting it all made me feel so much better. Learning hard life lessons and finding healthier coping mechanisms, and healthier relationships, was enough for me.
Bad news is I'm working on applying for disability benefits for something else. It's not by choice or laziness, I'm actually disabled. But getting proof for my particular disease is difficult so I have to use the mental health card, which means I have to go back into therapy and get back on meds just so I can have some documentation that I'm receiving 'treatment'. I'm not looking forward to it and I can guarantee that I will come out of it more angry, and probably with more issues from med side effects, but it's what I need to do to appease the system. I don't really know how I'm gonna handle it this time around. My trust in these shmucks is damaged.
I'm a believer that it works for some, especially if they've never opened up about feelings before, but it's not for everyone and it totally can make people worse. It sucks that it's accepted as the only solution and outsiders just parrot the same thing about getting help when they've never been through the system themselves.

No. 1151151

Can we talk about the bullshit psychiatry industry too?
>19 years old
>open up to GP about anxiety and depression, get referred to psychiatrist because therapy and psychology isn't covered by public health here
>one single 1-hour appointment, just asks me a bunch of yes/no questions like a robot. Gets annoyed when I accidentally cry while talking about childhood trauma
>diagnosed with Bipolar 2 and 'possibly borderline, too young to diagnose yet'
>get put on a mood stabilizer
>get a big speech about how my brain is broken and I need to NEVER stop taking my pills or I'll be manic and insane and the world will end
>ask for help with anxiety and get put on a fucking anti-psychotic for the sedative properties because someone with a bipolar dx can't have conventional anxiety meds
>take pills for like 5 years. Get really fat. Mental state doesn't really improve but I'm "stable" and if I want to go off the pills it's "proof" that I'm not "not stable"
>hit a state of burnout and distrust with the mental health industry. flush pills and never go back to psych
>get into CPTSD research and lifestyle changes
>depression and shit finally starts to improve

So I could've just skipped the whole pill circus and bought some self-help books and I would've been fine from the start. Five years of my life down the drain plus whatever the fuck long term side effects I might have from daily psych meds.

No. 1151194

I feel so lucky I never had any horrible experiences with therapy itself. I was over-medicated as a teenager after a self harm incident and have a 6 month hole in my memory where I was apparently a shell of myself that could barely function. It was scary.

No. 1151383

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>>1149884
>I never pulled another hair again
I don't know nonny, seems like it was decisive therapeutical success on her part

No. 1151417

>>1151093
What a load of shite, you know people use it to treat actual medical problems, it's not just used to prevent pregnancy.

No. 1151909

I have a little cousin thats a lesbian and bpd-chan. her family is really well off so she was prob going to an expensive af therapist.
she told her therapist that her gf's step dad sexually abuses her and then the therapist called the cops/cps and all hell broke lose. my little cousin then started hardcore cutting so her parents sent her away to one of those fancy rehabilitation therapy centers (it was 90k for 30 days ffs)
they put her on tons of medication and she apparently got in trouble for sneaking in a phone, so they put her in a lockdown and kept her like an extra two weeks.
she came back and chopped off all her hair and now looks spoopy skinny.
these people are fucking her over but none of the family knows how/if they can help her…

No. 1152720

>>1150890
It basically was a “we love trans and they/thems!!!” Radical school. One of my professors told us he and his wife are going to refer to his newborn baby as “they” until it was old enough to “decide it’s own gender”. A lot of it was hardcore radical sjw and they basically talked about how you should see your patient as a whole being who isn’t defined by illness. It was cool in theory until I realized half of my class was projecting their own traumas onto their clients (which was a red flag) and the other half of my classmates were so incredibly sensitive to any criticism and they would say “no I’m right.” How the fuck are you going to help people if you won’t listen to criticism? The problem with the school is that it was too focused on coddling and respecting everyone, that if you even said anything critical you were deemed bad. It was literally a mindhive, believe everything the school said, did or you were wrong.

No. 1152730

>>1151093
It definitely harmed me. I would self harm so much more and follow my suicidal thoughts when I was on birth control. I didn’t believe it at first so I did a test to see how I was emotionally on the pills and it made me so incredibly depressed. Once I got off, I was happy and more stable. Luckily my current partner cares about me and wears condoms so that way I’m not bc

No. 1152753

>>1151151
Holy fuck, I feel seriously infuriated with all the shit you went through. I'm sorry nonny.

No. 1152783

When I was being abused as a kid, my first therapist said my mental illnesses were from not believing in Jesus and laughed at me when I brought up a phobia I had that was so bad I didn't leave the house or talk to people for years in middle school. I was also on many different anti depressants at insanely doses for like half of my life and I still get side effects in my 20s kek. Now I can't even go to the GP without feeling like I'm dying. I would rather eat glass than talk to another therapist or psychiatrist

No. 1152805

>>1151417
You and anon can both be right, birth control pills are not suitable for everyone. I'm horrified of taking it tbh, i'd rather just be celibate or find another way to fix my issues.

No. 1152872

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i have a friend who's a (literal) autist with a questionable grasp on reality and a general victim complex. she went to see a therapist and came back with a bunch of "repressed memories" about various terrible events that i'm 99% sure didn't happen

No. 1152878

>>1150221
This is such an insanely shit thing to go through, but also, holy shit anon, getting through all that and living to tell the tale is incredible

No. 1152882

>>1150362
nightmare shit. i'm sorry that happened anon

No. 1152942

>>1152872
This is a huge problem. Therapists suggesting traumatic events that may have never happened

No. 1152990

i had a therapist who told me my issues relating to food were because i wasn't gluten free and that i could eat whatever i wanted without getting fat as long as it didn't contain gluten. needless to say that didn't help my case at all

No. 1153048

>>1149862
>>1149888
Anon this is fucking hilarious. I can’t believe that statue is real.

No. 1153061

I was misdiagnosed as having anorexia nervosa and after giving in and going through the rehab process (because they threatened to put me in the psychiatric ward if I didn't comply, which in my country is hard to get out of and stains your life forever) I was assigned a therapist for 5 months. Other than the fact that she kept asking me questions about a disorder I didn't have, she would act very arrogant at times and like she was looking at a piece of shit. She would laugh at the fact that I had no friends, she would focus on useless details instead of the problem I was trying to tell, I had to repeat so many things because she would forget and not write them down, laugh at my hobbies, laugh at what I wanted to do or try. At some point I told her my father and brother had violent outbursts (yelling, breaking things) and that it was taking a toll on me, and she told me to "just ignore it" and that my family's problems were not my problems. Then during one session she had me close my eyes and imagine a landscape, which honestly felt embarassing because it had no purpose (she never brought it up again) and it felt like a joke. I was supposed to draw it too but I never did, fuck that.
One day she told me something like "Oh you know, you don't actually have an ED, so it's not my job anymore" and just… told me to go somewhere else… when she and her collegues were the ones diagnosing me in the first place.

No. 1153062

>>1150363
>One agreed that I should kill myself, when I was a suicidal teen
A psychiatrist basically told me the same thing when I was 22. He said it as part of pitching Buddhism to me though. As in, "Might as well kill yourself if you don't believe in a higher power."

>One (male) visibly held back laughter and looked very amused when I talked about how much I hated my body to the point of self harming and wanting to die

He probably found you sexually attractive and was laughing at the irony, the piece of shit.

So many of your stories are awful. Are you still in therapy, or did you decide it isn't worth it?

No. 1153065

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i had a moid therapist recommend acupuncture to help deal with csa after having really shitty boundaries for the entire session and whining to me about his teenaged stepdaughter who'd tried to kill herself over a boy. that was fucking awkward. gave up on psychiatry altogether after that and now i just pretend it never happened and i was raised with amazing parents that i have backstories for kek and i've been really happy. i treat myself a lot better, my imagination parents raised me right. reading man's search for meaning helped, too but that's not as schizo

No. 1153070

>>1150457
>And if they try and diagnose you with a disorder and get you to do testing, does that get them more money?
Kind of. In the USA at least, billing insurance often requires a diagnosis code for the billing to go through. I'm not sure how/if the system can be gamed, but there is 100% a motivation for them to diagnose you with something. For example, a therapist treating a fairly normal person with anxiety caused by life stress might bill for Generalized Anxiety Disorder, but if they were ethical, they wouldn't tell the patient the diagnosis, since it isn't a true diagnosis.
Testing done at another clinic shouldn't earn the psychiatrist any money. Pretty sure that's illegal. In-house testing might pose a conflict of interest though.

>>1151383
She must've gone to a reverse psychologist.

No. 1153334

Psychology isn't bullshit or a pseudoscience and I think it's very important to observe certain harmful behavioural patterns and their correlation with experienced trauma so that it's easier to deprogram them out of your system and live a happier life with healthier coping methods but my god a lot of psychologists and therapists are just narcissistic and unhinged and get to the position to seek for power over their patients. I wish I could just get a psychologist I can trust.

No. 1153364

>>1153065
>i just pretend it never happened and i was raised with amazing parents that i have backstories for kek and i've been really happy. i treat myself a lot better, my imagination parents raised me right.
how do I do this, is it healthy?

No. 1153370

>>1153334
psychology is good when identifying male behavorial patterns, abusers, rapists, murderers, cult leaders etc
not so much with helping a female teenager in need (because gasp, we never were important to them in the first place)

No. 1153704

My therapist suggested my SA happened because the perpetrator was confused since they were transgender and asked me to think about how hard their life was. Stopped going immediately after that session, fuck that guy.

No. 1154205

>>1149973
>She fried her brain on drugs because her nose is big
what

No. 1154378

>thread op starts with "hello"
KAITLYN??

No. 1154392

>>1154378
Hello, I think you are a bit paranoid

No. 1154443

My therapist told me Kaitlyn Tiffany isn't real and can't hurt me that fucking gaslighting bitch

No. 1154920

>>1154443
kekkkk

No. 1154946

My mother, my sister, a family member, and my friends have 'advised' me to go to therapy many times, the shilling is annoying.

No. 1154960

>>1154946
Can I ask why though?

No. 1154968

>>1154960
I can get a little weird sometimes. The last instance was I hit my face with my shoe repeatedly and bled, but that was due to valid reasons and pms. There are other things but well under control, trust me. I just dislike the get therapy/seek help """"""advice"""""""". It also feels dismissive imo.

No. 1154978

I saw many therapists from the time I was around 7 to 16, because my parents kept switching me around for reasons I’m still unsure of. I think my mom was trying to get an autism diagnosis because I’m an introvert and she’s an extrovert who could never understand why I wasn’t as social or popular as she would have liked.

There was only one out of at least five who I liked and felt okay seeing. The worst I’ve ever had was probably my last one. There was no chemistry between us whatsoever to start out with. The worst thing she did in practice was try to diagnose me with a histrionic disorder which I know for a fact I didn’t have, and recommend to my parents they pull me out of school to send me to some full-time therapy program thing an hour from home. I had to beg my mom not to listen to her. If this plan would have gone through, it would have fucked me and my life up more than anything else.

I also saw her outside of practice once. She has a daughter my little sister’s age and they go to the same school. I went to a family day at the school and saw her, and she looked pissed and uncomfortable to see me. I was just an awkward teen, and she was never nice to me once, not even for professionalism purposes.

No. 1154985

I thought psychiatrists were supposed to be legit, but the one I went to for my autism assessment spent half of the time cutting off my answers to his questions to tell me what he'd answer if asked the same questions, and tell me stories about his childhood, family and wife. When I said I'd also like to get referred to some sort of therapy for my anxiety, he laughed and asked "You have a boyfriend, how anxious can you be?"
I pressed the issue and he said he'd refer me, but he never did. I feel like he wouldn't have given me the diagnosis had I not come extremely prepared, too; he asked the questions so fast and cut me off so much, I wouldn't have been able to keep up with the specialised vocabulary if I hadn't done a lot of research before asking for the assessment.
He also got weirdly aggressive when he asked me if I wanted to get benefits, as if he was going to withhold the diagnosis if I said yes. He was so pleased when I said no and I don't get why.

No. 1154995

>>1154968
Kek anon, there’s no valid reason to beat yourself with a shoe.

No. 1154999

>>1154995
Trust me.

No. 1155012

>>1154968
Why do you do it? Do you feel unworthy? Have you had trauma that makes you feel guilty?

No. 1155039

>>1154968
Ok maybe not therapy but have you tried something else?

No. 1155072

>>1155012
When I get really frustrated I hit myself, super rare though. I'm just an extremely closed off person. I apply Vaseline religiously and there has been no scars during these outbursts. The only other thing would be minor issues from underaged camming and getting diddled as a kid, but as I said, all under control. I am like 100% sure therapy will just complicate all that I have already sorted out. I've seen it with my own eyes, people going to therapy getting worse. Therapists also tend to be very self-absorbed more often than not. Psychology is a shoddy 'science'. I've not had any run-ins with psychiatrists though, are they any better? Or even worse?

No. 1155083

>>1155072
You need help, good help

No. 1155084

>>1154205
She was a weeb back in the day who was in the cosplay scene. Having a small nose seemed like a required prerequisite if you wanted to make it as a known cosplayer. It crushed her that she was not cutesy, but had a mature face. Her nose suits her strong features and since she could not get a nosejob, she decided to do drugs to cope with being "ugly". Specifically meth and now she cannot form a coherent sentence while suggesting crystals to heal patients cancers.

No. 1155092

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I have a couple really bad experiences with therapy that kind of fuck me up still to this day.
I started seeing an older (65+) woman many years ago. She would haphazardly send me home with "homework," which was usually something like, "Journal how you feel and email it to me," or "Do 3 versions of the processes (something like picrel) we talked about in therapy today and email it to me." The "assignments" were informal, she would kind of throw it in as and afterthought the end of the sessions.
I struggled multiple times with the processes (I literally couldn't think of a way to "Comfort my younger part" because I had no idea how to! That's why I was there in the first place…). I told her so in the next session(s), ask for clarification and guidance, only to be told "What homework? I don't remember anything" or "Don't worry about doing that this week." She would tell me to just randomly journal and email it to her instead, which I diligently did. I received no replies, and ultimately she never saw them or remembered she told me to send them. Eventually she stops assigning homework after I had asked her a few times for help and she pushed the issue off. Okay, fine. She knows best, right?
One day I come in and she's asking me why I haven't been doing the homework. I tried explaining to her that I had sent her emails of journaling and I attempted the process-work (?) and reminded her that she told me "Don't worry about doing the homework" and reminded her that she told me to forget "homework" altogether. She literally wouldn't believe me as I was trying to explain to her everything I just explained above, and I started to involuntarily hyperventilate into a panic attack (Getting "in trouble" and not being listened to/heard while the person gets angrier because they think you're manipulating them, building to a fucking frenzy of wanting to be heard and approved of, to feel so inferior and desperate… is shockingly similar to the way my father treated me as a girl and the reason I was in therapy.) I said, "I think I am having a panic attack," and she just goes, "Yep I think you are too." in the most cold and unfeeling, almost triumphant, way.
I can't remember if it was the same session, it might have been right after all this, I remember her saying "I know you want me to be this nice, sweet, older woman who will be kind to you. I can tell by the way you are; I can tell by the way you have your head tilted to the side right now (I didn't realize I did this and to this day I am self-conscious about it), you want me to be sweet, soft, Kathy." (name changed ofc). It was just so mean nonnas. I'm sobbing now as I remember this. When she said, with such disgust, that my head was tilted to the side to show deference and eagerness to listen, I felt like even the people that I come to for help think I am pathetic and are angry with me for things I am not aware of. I 100% understand what her point was and I understand that therapy isn't a place for coddling. I was not asking to be coddled, I just needed help with completing a therapeutic process that I had never done before (perhaps we could have gone through some examples together) and she forgot all the times she herself put off the homework and then blamed it all on me.
I came across the emails that I sent her a while ago (there were 5 total assignments that I attempted to complete or journal entries that I wrote that went without replies or acknowledgement, even after I tried telling her that I had in fact sent them and done the work she asked me to) and it ignited the memory again and I was able to feel angry for myself instead of sad and scared that an "adult" (I am a fucking adult too) "yelled at me."
Looking at my emails right now, she also sent a weird fucking email to both of my parents (I WAS FUCKING 25 YEARS OLD) about the nature of my care that at the time I didn't realize was completely inappropriate (it's kind of funny in the context of lolcow and all us crazy bitches though, I'll post a redacted version for keks [even though it's kinda sad too but w/e]). ALSO looking back right now, I put effort into the hw assignments, even though I was lost and confused by them. SMGDHHHHHHH
Why did this lady want to beat me down so much??? I eventually stopped seeing her, I forget why, it may very well have been because she realized we were incompatible (aka she probably thought I was fucking pathetic) and she sent me to see a different therapist, blah blah blah.
I hope everyone is doing well today, I am miles from where I was back then and so thankful. I'm still a huge loser by almost any standards but I'm not quite in the same hell now that I was back then. This post might seem retarded or maybe it sounds like no big deal but it was to me and it made me feel like shit.

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>>1155092
samefag, I guess she sent this because my parents were paying for my therapy but I still think it's inappropriate. None of this info was news to them, btw.

No. 1155114

>>1155083
Here come the shillers.

No. 1155118

One time I saw a male therapist and the whole session I could tell he was like, nervous or in awe or something to be able to speak to a woman. It was kinda sad because the next time I saw him at the office was on my way to his colleague's office for a session kek. His face… rip to that guy I hope he's doing ok now

No. 1155129

I sent my therapist a recording of the family conversation we had when we found out my faggot father is also a pedophile (the last time I will ever speak to him) and she was like… why tf did you send this to me, there were allegations made, I am a mandated reporter. and I felt so fucking stupid. I just wanted someone to hear what I went through in that conversation and be able to talk about it with someone. She was a good therapist but the incident was so embarrassing. She was like well why did you send this to me, what do you want me to do with this.
She's right and I feel so fucking dumb for putting her in that position. (FWIW the allegations were from 20+ years ago and unproven so she didn't have to report it.)

No. 1155156

>>1155072
They are much worse because they're pill pushers and force druggers who aren't interested in hearing about your problems, they just are waiting to push a prescription on you to give them kickbacks. I've dealt with horrible psych who interrupted me, did not fucking listen, and then gave me benzos of all things with no instructions on how to take them or taper. They are more sociopathic than therapists because they have monetary incentives. Good luck if you suggest that meds don't work for you or that you find alternative meds and supplements work better

No. 1155171

>>1154985
>When I said I'd also like to get referred to some sort of therapy for my anxiety, he laughed and asked "You have a boyfriend, how anxious can you be?"
I've had some pretty life affecting anxiety since a young age, it ramped up in my teens and my life was at a standstill from agoraphia, social phobia etc.. The biggest mistake I've made in my years since my semi-recovery is that whenever I'm dating someone I tend to take a few step backwards in my recovery without realizing it. I don't keep challanging myself enough, I don't go to therapy enough, I assume life is good because 'well I have someone' and that way of thinking is so dangerous. It can set you up for abuse sometimes. And it's bad because romantic partners can also just walk out of your life again… and then what? You've gone into a slow decline and then you get dumped one day and you realize you've isolated yourself and getting help will be that much harder.You can really set yourself back that way.

Having a partner isn't everything. They shouldn't be your social crutch or life crutch and you still have to maintain your own sense of wellbeing whether you have a relationship or not. That's so fucked.

No. 1158005

>>1153062
I kept going for about 10 years and just gave up on therapy last year. People always told me to keep going and that I was just unlucky, that I "can't just give up" and yada yada. But I figured if I haven't found the "right" therapist after 10 years then I doubt I'll ever find one that's good enough. It honestly felt like I was in an abusive relationship and whenever I wanted to leave everyone around me went "aw no you gotta stay with him, he'll get better!".

Last year I decided to instead slowly try to get better on my own, and for the first time ever I feel like I've had some progress. Granted, it's not a lot of progress but I've overcome some small things my anxiety wouldn't allow me to do, so I'm still proud of myself.

No. 1159235

>>1155129
You weren't dumb anon, she handled that really badly. Clearly you wanted to discuss it with someone you trust. She wasn't wrong to remind you about her position but there was no reason to be rude about it and make you feel bad.

No. 1159252

I knew someone who became a psychiatrist and they do not have the life experience to be giving advice, especially not in their specialty. I can't believe they were able to qualify. They post about their work online and say incredibly stupid things, as well an not being completely confidential.

I had bad experiences of therapy before but this has put me off therapy completely. Not that I don't believe the science, but I don't trust the people. I've since found reading books and forums dedicated to my issues much more useful.

I guess going to therapy made sense before these things were widely available but now I don't think it should be automatically viewed as the first step to getting better, especially considering how easy it for a therapist to make your issue worse.

No. 1164982

Maybe this thread is full of creative writing but if even half of the stories in here are true that paints a bleak picture of the current therapeutic landscape.

No. 1164986

>>1159252
> they do not have the life experience to be giving advice
Isn't this true for most doctors. They spend most of their time in school with other students, it's no wonder they have bad interpersonal skills and are elitists

No. 1165412

>>1164982
>Maybe this thread is full of creative writing
Fuck off dickwad this isn't Reddit

No. 1167818

>>1164986
That makes sense. I need there needs to be a bigger focus on bedside manner in doctor training in general as so many seem to be so bad at it.

For therapy and psychiatrists I feel like they need to screen out the people who are going into it trying to solve their issues and prioritize people who have already overcome related problems. Someone who can't solve their own problems should absolutely not be put in a place to give advice to others.

I think setting a minimum age would help too as young people are stupid, even if they have a fancy degree, they are still stupid. Older people have a bigger chance of being less stupid because of life experience, though not guaranteed.

No. 1172738

>>1167818
>I think setting a minimum age would help too as young people are stupid

I understand your point but the only half-decent therapists I've had were young. The young ones were actually trying to help me, while the older ones either seemed like they had given up on me before we had even started, or they had this mentality of "well you're young so you have plenty of time to figure things out" and then did fuck all to help me and just took my money.

No. 1174579

>>1172738
That makes sense. Most people stupid, regardless of age, and it can't be avoided.

No. 1184245

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Did you know there are non binary therapist options on psychologytoday? This is what the mental health field looks like now, kek
Also I found multiple fakeboi therapists named Elliot. So typical

No. 1184253

>>1184245
spill the tea therapy… very unprofessional my god

No. 1184255

>>1184245
Miss Pakalana Lokahi sounds like the type of names i made up for my sims in Castaway Stories to match the other premade names

No. 1184260

ive had the same therapist for the past year or so and generally i really like her and have improved a lot over the course of our sessions.

then unprompted the other day after our last meeting she brought up the jd/ah trial and is a complete depp stan…… ive been trying not to let this make me question her overall credibility but like…. super unprofessional for her to joke about amber having bpd in front of a patient

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>>1184253
They have weird framed deviantart pictures as decor and also funko pops kek

No. 1184275

>>1184260
yikes. i'm pretty sure that is unprofessional. assuming you haven't been diagnosed with bpd, just imagining her trying to poke fun at it in front of a patient that does.

No. 1184279

>>1184275
yes i dont have it but surely she must treat people who do.

No. 1184342

>>1184267
Omg is that Destiel art on the wall, what in the world.

No. 1184424

>>1184342
tumblr kids becoming psychologists and lawyers just feel so wrong to me

No. 1184439

I'm not gonna way every single one but a lot of therapists cross boundaries with their patients. A friend of mine has her therapist added on her public and private 'venting' instagrams, and her therapist has her own 'venting' type instagram that my friend follows. From my conversations with her about her 'angel therapist', literally calls her these sort of names, the therapist talks a lot about herself and relates my friend's problems to her own and talks about her own marriage so much. Idk, just feel off to me. Although, they are now not therapist-patient anymore as of last week, after a year of being so, because they both realized they are friends at this point so that's good I guess?

No. 1184454

>>1184439
>angel therapist
jillian vessey???

No. 1184457

>>1184454
kek, i laugh whenever she calls her ex-therapist that because of jillian.

No. 1184461

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>>1184245
I just want to find a therapist who won't try to convince me to transition, but also won't do conversion therapy practices. It's interesting how both conservative and progressive therapists always want to blame gender expression for all your issues.

No. 1184529

>>1184461
I wish I could help you with it nona! You're perfect the way you are, tomboys and butches are amazing! You're even crushing gender stereotypes just by being yourself. Is it possible to find a specialist for whatever issue you need help with? Like an anxiety specialist or trauma specialist etc, they might be less inclined to focus on "the gender stuff" and focus on their area of expertise.

No. 1184597

>>1184529
Nah, I have a feeling that all of them are forced to go through some sort of gender identity related training and the ones who don't tend to be extremely conservative. I noticed it even when I went to see a GP-in-training for a referral to a trauma specialist. He said there weren't any available who were okay with aspergers-trauma comorbidity in my postcode who could see me in a reasonable timeframe, but I could go see a gender specialist. My country is retarded and doesn't think you should be careful with trying to trans autists, but other comorbidities with aspergers are apparently a contraindication and complicates things so much.

No. 1184733

>>1184439
This is very off. Is this person an actual psychologist or just a "life coach" or whatever?

No. 1184837

I recently got catfished by my therapist. Her profile picture was shopped with some kind of Snapchat filter looking thing in the same way Amanda Bret does, so I was thinking she was young only to learn she's an older woman. Fine so far but I thought it was funny and I'm not sure what this means kek

No. 1184891

>>1184733
Nope, an actual therapist with a graduate degree and a couple years in practice. Funnily enough, my friend is also studying psych to become a therapist and saw seemingly nothing wrong with this.

No. 1185294

I quit cognitive behavioural therapy in april. My therapist told me that I should go escorting (when I told him that I want a better lifestyle for myself) and he also constantly defended my abusive parents. He was always kind of passive aggressive with me which was annoying and downplayed a lot of my experiences. He also acted really weirdly when I cried (I told him about the super fast heart palpitations I experienced randomly).

No. 1185301

>>1185294
>My therapist told me that I should go escorting (when I told him that I want a better lifestyle for myself)
wtf

No. 1185314

>>1151093
true i literally got depression when i was on bc and had random crying fits. i changed my birth control pills 6 times and saw 3 different doctors who all gaslit me and said that it wasn't possible. after that i stopped taking it and guess what NON DEPRESSION ANYMORE. i am celibate now and will be until they improve available non hormonal birth control options because no one in my country wants to give me the copper iud.

No. 1185333

>>1185301
When he said that I sat there stunned for 5 minutes and then I just got up and left. He sent me 3 emails after telling me to "come back and sort out my issues". I blocked him. What the fuck was wrong with this man?! He also never gave me any homework or worked on any issues. He also would randomly tell me shit about his family and kids like wtf I don't care about that

No. 1185334

>>1185294
>male therapist
>tells you to escort
He needs to die

No. 1185410

>>1185334
Seriously. And have his dick cut off.

No. 1185488

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>>1150027
The woo woo your therapist is spouting came from this book titled The Secret. You can thank Oprah for popularizing the pseudoscientific drivel that is Law of Attraction. So yeah I think you need to move on.

No. 1185770

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>start seeing a cbt therapist privately after being fed up with nhs waiting lists/previous experience in therapy on nhs
>after a few weeks of cbt therapy it seems to be working really well and I'm learning how to cope a lot better. therapist does say some weird stuff like telling me hitting myself when I'm upset is actually a good thing and might be helpful, but I'm naïve and I let it slide.
>I go to see her in my next appointment. she starts talking about this "EFT" tapping technique we're going to try in this session.
>tells me to tap these "energy pressure points" on my body when I’m having a panic attack or thinking negatively and repeat a mantra like "I'm not anxious" over and over. I have to rate how I feel on the scale before and after doing it.
>needless to say I did not like the idea of the whole touching thing due to my history of SA, even though I would just be touching myself but still it sounded fucking weird.
>"I know it all sounds nonsense or like pseudo-science but it’s not anon!"
>the whole time I'm thinking this is stupid and I look like a fool.
>I tried it out. only did the tapping sometimes when I'm having flashbacks to ground myself (which only helps for a few seconds then they would just come back anyway) and I try to avoid doing it other than that. therapist wants me to do it on the train to uni when I feel anxious, but only tapping my thumb or collar bone instead of from my forehead down to my chest so that I don’t look weird to the other passengers kek.
>go to next session. do tapping. don't feel any different after doing the tapping so I pick the same number on the scale and say I feel the same.
>"but anon you do seem a lot better than when we started the tapping. you feel more relaxed right? So since you feel better maybe we should change the score to a 5 or 6?" then she smiles at me. I can tell I’m being manipulated.
>change the score just to please her but it made me really uncomfortable and I'm more suspicious than before.
>continue cbt therapy for a few more months then we both part ways
>the tapping stuff keeps playing on my mind, so I do a google search for it
>any scholarly articles supporting it have a small sample size and were written by people who sell books and courses on EFT certification.

that's my story nonnies, at least the cbt worked well for me. And yes, I’m dumb for not researching it beforehand, but I was desperate and all I cared about was the cbt. Some people say it works but I personally believe it’s bogus and any effect it has is a placebo. Gary Craig, the founder of EFT, apparently says tapping can cure anything, even cancer. His website design is also an eyesore. The Guild of Energists website is even worse.

No. 1185780

>>1185770
congrats, anon. you just added a +1 to their 'evidence that it works'.

No. 1185803

>>1185770
I've been told to do tapping by a nutritionist and I could never get into it, I am not surprised it's pushed forwards by crazies. But it seems the tapping solution website appears to be more popular. I think anybody who has had success with it is primarily because it makes you think about why you feel the way you do and you create thoughts in your head to counter your negative thoughts. You can achieve this without tapping, it's literally just a gimmick.

Funnily enough, I feel like it was far more effective for me than cbt which I saw on the nhs. The therapist I had was not qualified to deal with somebody like me whose issues who routed in situations I cannot ignore and the fact that my issues were so heavily intertwined with my eating and also my failure to be socially successful.

No. 1185811

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>>1184267
>>1184245
what the fuck

No. 1186321

>>1150554
>The psychiatric field must attract at least 2 types of people
Absolutely true. An ex friend of mine has warned multiple people about me being 'A psycho on psycho meds' (I have delusional disorder and was on latuda, which she pressured me to tell her after I stepped out of the room to take my meds.) is now studying psychology in University. It drives me crazy because she's a diagnosed BPD hypersexual weirdo and thinks that she deserves to have authority over other's mental health. Ugh.

And, I hate therapy. It has never helped me, in fact I felt worse after going to my sessions. I've had 3 therapists and all of them have insisted on CBT, which i find completely ineffective. Delusions are irrational, so how am I supposed to rationalise my emotions surrounding them?! I also have issues with numbness so how the fuck am I supposed to even be able to name these emotions? All my interactions with the field of psychology has turned me mildly Anti Psychiatry…lol.

No. 1186500

>>1186321
Psychology literally attracts the weirdest cows. At my old job at a hospital there were a lot of psychologists employed and there was this one coworker who was a batshit crazy hypersexual attention whore. She always behaved like a teenager in front of the male superiors and had sex in the closet with one of the bosses who was MARRIED and his wife was pregnant. She would flirt with everything that had two legs and a penis and was at least average looking. The patients in the building even heard them have sex and I still don't know why they weren't fired.

No. 1186733

>>1185294
Please report him and mention all those things. The escorting thing is especially worrying because it's very easy for women who have had abusive parents to fall into another abusive situation, most escorts are in one (even if they don't show it on social media etc).

No. 1186783

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>>1184267
This is hysterical, can you imagine talking about your deep traumas with the Aziraphale & Crowley alcohol marker art on the wall behind you. I'm laughing so hard right now, what the hell ?

No. 1186803

>>1185294
god this reminds me of how excited my male therapist looked when i finally broke down and cried in front of him. i still get a gross feeling thinking about it

No. 1186816

>>1186783
The art isn't even good to begin with…

No. 1187491

>>1186783
Don't forget about the Dean and Castiel beside them kek

No. 1215496

Has anyone used Betterhelp? It's such a scam imo and it does not really save you money at all in the long run. I feel like these therapists do the absolute bare minimum as a side hustle. The whole catch with Betterhelp is that you pay extra for unlimited monthly therapy, but who really needs that much?
>Be me struggling to get a therapist for months because everyone has a wait list, my mental health issues are complicated, and my insurance sucks
>Have to settle for Betterhelp
>Mostly need a therapist to help with disability documentation and make that clear from the start
>She says I can put her down when applying.
>All our sessions are her saying 'wow that sucks' and 'sounds hard'
>Never replies to my in between session messages, something that Betterhelp is apparently superior for vs regular therapy
>Stick with it though because I need anything else
>Try other cheaper online therapists but most reject me and mention they don't do disability documentation
>Finally find another therapist through insurance
>Ask her if she's heard from disability yet to provide documentation
>"No we don't really do anything involving disability"
>tfw she literally waits until our final session, after I spend ridiculous amounts of money per month and after I make it clear that's what my goal was, to tell me this

No. 1215548

>>1215496
Yeah better help is a scam, there are many testimonials about it sadly

No. 1216161

>>1215496
I swear that Betterhelp was exposed as being a shitty service (to the point of being dangerous) a while back and youtubers were called out for taking sponsorships off of them… and then it all died down and youtubers are back to trying to sell it again? Singing its praises like nothing ever happened.

No. 1216194

>>1215496
Can you legally do something about it? I know it sounds like a cliche, but holy fuck, that is cold on their part. I'm sorry you had to go trough that, maybe try to use your experience to help others in your situation?

No. 1216200

>>1216161
Yeah, it was around the same time as Shane Dawson having that Betterhelp shill featured in his Jake Paul videos I think. Yet now it's being advertised everywhere more than ever.

No. 1216206

>>1216194
I'd love to but I cancelled the sub in April and I feel like it'd be too late now. Ugh. After reading what was said here I looked at BBB with a ton of people complaining but it was stuff like fraudulent charges.
I only did it because one of my friends told me to and said she had good luck with it. I didn't even know about this until after even though it felt like such a bad deal. Extra scummy too that they probably took advantage of the pandemic to shill it too

No. 1216262

>>1216206
Ayrt, you know what? You're right about your last statement! So think: maybe now that the pandemic is over (sorta), lots of stuff like this might come to light, because you're more than likely not the only one who went through this. So try talking to a lawyer, or you may be able to team up with other people and expose the scummy behaviour. If you don't feel like it, that's fine, just telling the story helps. Maybe try some online newspaper, magazine or blog who might be willing to publish your experience?

No. 1216304

>>1216206
Keep an eye on your credit card statements. BetterHelp frequently steals from credit cards, apparently at random.

No. 1216314

finally its my time to shine about the rage ive been keeping inside over this shit therapist
>no insurance and the only therapist i liked is almost 200 per session
>settle with interns
>intern ive been seeing who was a guy who literally just said "your complaints are valid" while i infodumped on my trauma has to leave to take his exams
>he leaves me with a "young new and promising intern"
>personal drama happens where i catch my ex watching porn and im upset because obviously its porn and we set a boundary a long time ago
>bring this up to new scrote intern and how upset i was
>he goes into a tirade about how its normal and sex work is REAL work! and what about the poor uwu men who are paraplegic and can never have normal sex and its just like bartending and
>tell him its my own personal boundary and thats that
>he says boundaries are changeable
>this guy is a certified retard and creep
>email the office and say i will no longer be returning
some people say i should've reported him but i was afraid they wouldn't give a shit

No. 1216318

>>1216314
your fault for seeing a scrote ask for a woman if you ever decide to go back lel
jokes aside he was 100% pornsick himself and was projecting onto your bf. So unprofessional.

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his dude I know is going into psychology and he… isn't great at empathy. like, has obvious narcissistic tendencies. he's really deep into theory and seems to care more about being some sort of Esteemed Professional(tm) scholarly Freud figure than actually helping people… sometimes I have to stop myself from straight up asking if he's sure he should become a therapist. he's even specializing in one of the most abusive and sketchy methods!

worst part is he'll probably succeed no matter how shit a therapist he would turn out to be, since the industry is so in demand and already filled with unsavoury people. it's very high status so it attracts people who want to be big shots - but man, I wish there was more rigorous testing specifically for filtering out those who want power over others. especially after reading your stories, and having some lovely experiences myself.

like someone said above, better support can be found in a random person off the street who's had their own struggles. I think the big thing is humility, honestly. and many people who choose to enter the psychology field seem to greatly lack it. but again, being a deeply compassionate person might be a weakness if you have to face misery every. single. day.

thinking about how many slimy people are drawn to psychology makes me doubt the entire concept tbh

No. 1216374

>>1216314
Ew, what a fucking creep. Sorry you went through this anon.

No. 1216381

>>1216351
Many such cases anon, it's sad. I think narcs and adjacent types are drawn to psychology because they care more about pushing beliefs onto others and feeling in control, rather than helping people. Or the prestige that comes with saying that you're in a field that helps people. I've also seen super judgmental types who claim they can 'read others sooo well' get into psychology so they can feel big about their supposed keen psychic superpowers

No. 1216387

>>1216381
Yeah it's one of the profession that attracts power hungry psychos. There's also a lot of genuine nutters in the profession, like that satanic panic lady.

No. 1216483

>>1216314
>he goes into a tirade about how its normal and sex work is REAL work! and what about the poor uwu men who are paraplegic and can never have normal sex and its just like bartending and
I had a therapist try and push their views about sex onto me too. I don't understand how they can think this is ok. I've never studied therapy and can count the number of sessions I've had one one had, but it's obvious to me that therapy should focus on getting the patient situation they are happy with, whether their viewpoint is "right" or not (provided they are not harming themselves or anyone else). The therapist should never enter their own views or outside views into the discussion unless the patient directly asks for it, and even then, the therapist should redirect the discussion towards the patient.

My therapist actually made me feel much worse about myself and even though I've managed to get over my original issue many years ago, I still have the thing that they scolded me over hanging over me, enough though my views remain the same. It basically created doubt where I had none before. Objectively I know I'm not wrong but having had someone tell me to my face I'm wrong still stings.

No. 1216826

>>1151057
Extremely late but I am ayrt and just saw this thread again and noticed someone actually replied to me. Thanks for the book rec, I've downloaded and started reading it today. The concept of emotional flashbacks is already blowing my mind and describes a lot of my fucked up phases perfectly. Looking forward to weeping while reading the rest of it lol. Thanks again ♥

No. 1216847

Hearing anons talk about therapists suggesting they do things like download tinder or other unsolicited advice is nuts to me. Most of my therapists have been very uninvolved, either just letting me vent or giving me feedback and validating my emotions. I've never had them tell me to do things like that, until my current therapist. I am anti social media and my therapist thinks I need to go on Facebook and reconnect with friends and family members. When I told her I'm not into social media she was shocked. I have plenty of friends I communicate to in other ways. But I'm really afraid this is going to turn into her trying to cure my introversion or something.
She also suggests these coping mechanisms that I have zero interest in doing but I am just going along with it to humor her.

No. 1217741

>>1216262
You inspired me to write an email to the company and complain. Let's see what happens. Thanks for the support anon!

No. 1217785

>>1185294
JFC this is why I’d never go to a male therapist. Even by moid standards this is just too much, he is there to be a fucking professional. I don’t know if it was “just” an inappropriate joke but it’s something that’s never meant to be said by a mental healthcare professional.
I live in Japan and one of my friends had a terrible with a misogynistic male therapist in Tokyo as well. Males never surprise. He’s sort of notorious in Tokyo and lures the unassuming English speakers all the time, he has kept his business alive for years now. He will threaten people with lawsuits if they dare leave a negative comment on Reddit.
I see a female therapist at a small clinic who has actual qualifications, and so far she’s okay & highly empathetic. She actually gave me good insight and listened to my personal history. I’m glad I listened to my gut instinct and avoided moid therapists.

No. 1217801

>>1216314
I'd be so disgusted. I hope you find a real therapist nonna.
>>1216318
I bet even if it was a woman she'd say that it was too controlling (especially if she has a scrote who watches porn). Women are just as brainwashed as men unfortunately.

No. 1217836

Back when I worked for a call center straight out of college (lol) I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown from the stress and being broke. Additionally, I was gaining a fuckton of weight because I was binging and emotionally eating on cheap junk food. Of course my ex was an unsupportive piece of shit to boot.
Quickly I found myself from overweight back into obesity, which seriously depressed me because I had worked so hard in college to drop all that weight to be average only to have gained it back and then some. Even medications prescribed by my physician that were supposed to address my anxiety and hunger weren't really working.

So I sought a therapist through my insurance, found an office that assured me they could match me with someone based on my problems. Cue me sitting in an office with a 500 pound bitch trying to explain my ~small fat~ problems.
I felt so self-conscious and like I couldn't be honest about my feelings towards my body because this woman was a planet compared to me. And maybe had she been engaging I could have gotten more utility out of the session or built up mutual trust to have been more honest, but this bitch could not have acted more uninterested and disengaged. To this day I have no idea if her having her face down in her laptop was her legitimately taking notes while I gave background about myself, or if she was leaving a Yelp review. I suspect the latter because she did the same thing during our second session and it was as if she retained nothing about me during the first.
For the third appointment she had called and left a voicemail the day prior to cancel. Being that I was mentally fogged, stressed, overworked, and in a constant state of anxiety I missed her call and assumed all was well. My phone did not notify me of the voicemail. So I rolled up to the office and waited inside in a half-daze of sleep (I worked 2nd to 3rd shift at call center so I woke up early to especially drive out for these appointments) for about an hour before any of the staff bothered to acknowledge me. When one finally did, I told her who I was waiting for and she assured me the warthog would be back soon.
Almost an hour later (and bear in mind it was a couple hours prior to my shift so I was almost in tears) she waddles in with A BUCKET OF KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN and acts shocked that I was there. Of course she wouldn't see me and mentioned the voicemail. I was so distraught that I left that office in tears and never went back. When I manually checked my voicemail her reason for canceling was "double-booking" and her other client was the fucking colonel! That's why she had an oh shit look on her face because she's a lying tubba blubba.
I resolved to never go back, but I had forgotten that they had booked me for a 4th session that I forgot about because I never got my 3rd. Of course they billed me a no-show fee but of course when I called to complain there was ~nothing they could do about it~ even though thay bitch no-showed me for fried chicken and wasted my damn time.

Of course thanks to that experience I gave up reaching out for help and suffered for years. Finally I went into different work which vastly improved my situation and then I was able to support myself to get into the right state of mind to address my issues. I just wonder if my life would have went differently had I received a competent professional at the time who would have at least feigned empathy and gave me tools for my disordered eating. But whatever. The majority of therapists are parasitic hacks IMO.

No. 1218129

>>1217785
name and shame

No. 1218416

>>1217741
Update: looking at a $600 refund. Might try to press for more but I'm thrilled it didn't take much for them to honor this after my complaints. I wouldn't have even attempted this if not for the encouragement here. Thanks nonnies!

No. 1218924

>>1218416
Push for all your money back. Your made your goal clear, they agreed, but then in the last session said they don't do that. Complete scam. Threaten to make a review video or something if they refuse.

No. 1219176

>>1217836
>her other client was the fucking colonel!

nonny i'm so sorry that happened to you but this had me in tears

No. 1224212

I've had more productive mental health conversations with my GP and my psychiatrist who technically doesn't do therapy than any licensed therapist. I've found that therapists seem to follow scripts and look for issues to fit the diagnosis they've decided I have instead of looking for practical solutions to the symptoms I currently experience.

No. 1224939

I am going to cease bogus therapy this week, sisters.

It's been a year and a half. She seems to find me unbearable, and I always think shes only there for the money, not trying to help me.
I can't talk to her about my crazy ways and my insecurity with my body because shes chubbier than me and feels annoyed.
I don't feel comfortable with her and it always feel like sessions are an obligation.

No. 1224951

>>1224939
Glad to hear it anon. Hope you can find a better therapist.

No. 1225021

I was diagnosed with major depression and was able to get free therapy through a public program in my town. My first therapist who I was with for a year was amazing and really helped. Then he moved out of the free therapy circuit (because he was actually good) and got a job with an extremely expensive private service.

My new therapist had such weird energy, it's so hard to describe. She was a really small woman around 5 years older than me and she just sat there and looked terrified through the whole session. She never said anything, just sat looking at me with huge, wide eyes. Blinking slowly and sometimes shifting nervously. When she talked, she spoke in a high, timid voice like she was afraid of upsetting me. I know this might come off as sexist but her behavior seemed really unusual and questionable. I was talking about mundane stuff like feeling sad, and relationship issues, and it felt like she was scared of me. It felt absolutely terrible and triggered all this stuff that I had previously worked through. I went to 3 sessions and came out of each one feeling extremely unbalanced, confused, and "off." I didn't come back after the third one. My depression is a lot more under control, but only thanks to the first guy.

No. 1225077

>>1225021
Sorry to hear that anon. A lot of therapists don’t get a lot of training or believe that clients only need someone to talk at and will eventually talk themselves around to solutions for their problems themselves.

Can you ask to see someone else? It’s normal that not everyone clicks with every therapist. You can say you are looking for someone who you can have a dialogue with instead of things being one sided.

No. 1225149

>>1218924
Asked for a full refund and they honored it, but they said they are going to do an investigation into the matter. I really hope they don't find my complaint invalid in the end. They shouldn't and I think I have a good cause for wanting a refund, but still can't help but worry

No. 1225250

>>1225149
So glad to hear you should be getting a full refund anon. If they refuse the refund, consider contacting an ombudsman.

No. 1225688

Have any lesbian/bi/detrans nonnies also had issues with talking about your sexuality and homophobia struggles to therapists? It seems like all the ones available to me are conservative-leaning on that kind of thing, or pro-queer types. I remember having one therapist who refused to call me a lesbian for some reason and went for more vague inclusive terms and also thought "homophobia" was a problematic word because that's reserved for medical phobias or something. I also had another one as a teenager that was encouraging when I said I wanted to be a boy, even though she knew about my abuse at home and how being at church a lot made me hate myself. I have more stories about other instances but it's so messed up how the field is both full of psychopaths and people who drank the woke kool-aid

No. 1225735

Over time, my friend has given me tidbits about her therapist and it's making me go insane lmfao.

Firstly, she was telling me how her therapist cries during their sessions sometimes. Then, while I was making fun of dissociative identity disorder, my friend says her therapist encourages her to name parts of her personality (like protector, persecutor, etc.), essentially giving her DID.

But what is really getting to me is that out of no where she had a "PTSD episode" during her boxing class because she was being hit by a man. She goes to boxing multiple times weekly and this has never been a problem before. She has never mentioned anything about a past of physical abuse from men. She told me that her and her therapist are "uncovering" trauma from her childhood…that there is no proof of. Her therapist is planting false memories and my friend is falling for it and there's nothing we can say to her to change her mind because she hates being ~invalidated.

No. 1225755

My ex's therapist told him I was an abuser. My ex literally committed every single type of abuse (financial, emotional, physical, sexual) and started preying on teens and his therapist brushed that all aside because I was screaming at him to stop.

No. 1225757

>>1225755
Like he blamed me for not having enough sex with him, and that's why he was going after TEENS

So I had to have sex with this pedophile to try to appease him

But no, I'm the abuser

No. 1225762

>>1225735
Wtf how old is her therapist? I can't imagine any therapist over the age of 30 doing any of this shit kek

No. 1225769

>>1225735
That's terrifying, the worst part is that these fake memories and fake trauma will cause the same mental health issues as real trauma, this isn't a joke, your friend needs to somehow get out of that.
Can you maybe make her watch documentaries about the Satanic Panic era """""uncovering""""" memories scandals? Like something that explains how it works and why it's bullshit and is dangerous?

No. 1225779

>>1225762
No idea but I really want to know how much of a cow she is lmao
>>1225769
She's very into spirituality so I'm gonna show her the new docuseries about Teal Swan which includes the Satanic Panic so she can see how insane it looks from a third person perspective.

No. 1225825

>>1225735
i don't know how people can claim DID isn't entirely iatrogenic when this is commonly a thing. maybe not the crying, but the leading questions, pressing answers that they want, etc.

No. 1225843

>>1225825
The whole theory (emphasis) of DID is that the multiple personalities are formed when someone goes through repeat instances of trauma growing up. So it's an unnatural coping mechanism through-and-through and it's crazy how some people push that it can be inborn or healthy. I actually read about a form of therapy that claims "multiplicity" is natural and basically forces you to split yourself into roles, which is so messed up, I wonder if that's what that nonny's friend is doing

No. 1225952

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>>1225843
Yeah it’s called the Internal Family Systems model. It’s not the same as like, forcing DID on someone. It’s basically personifying certain parts of your personality, like the inner child or whatever, and identifying how they work as a system.

No. 1226146

>>1225755
>My ex's therapist told him I was an abuser.
This is a big issue with therapy, in my opinion. The therapist only has one side of the story and I’m sure plenty of patients withhold or twist information to make themselves look like the victim, even in therapy, to save face or gain sympathy. An abuser can have their imagined version of events reinforced and someone else agree with them that the real victim is the bad guy. I don’t think most therapist are trained enough to pick up in this either.

No. 1228866

Bump

No. 1228878

>>1149837
>Retard psychiatrist diagnoses me with BPD when I didn't fucking ask for it
>Tells me they don't treat BPD at their clinic and best I can get is talk therapy
>Now stuck with this shit stain disease on my record and getting 0 help for it

No. 1228885

If you pay someone to pretend to be your friend then you’re a retard

No. 1228917

>>1228885
that's not what therapy is. or do you tell your friends about your childhood trauma before they give you cbt worksheets?

ot but subscribing/donating to twitch streamers is paying someone to pretend to be your friend, especially if it gets you access to a special discord server. change my mind

No. 1228952

>>1228885
Therapists aren't your friends any more than your physician or dentist is. If you go into therapy expecting a compassionate friend who genuinely cares about your problems, you are a retard sure.
And likewise, if you're treating your friends like you would treat a therapist then you must be a fucking exhausting friend.

No. 1228961

>>1228885
If you treat your friends as if they’re your therapists you’re a retard.

No. 1229122

>>1228878
this is why women should be wary of going to psychologists. it SHOULD be helpful for women and victims. in actuality, it's not, and having a record of illnesses that people know about (namely men) is extremely harmful, plus, if women disclose any coping mechanisms for trauma -> BPD, no ifs, ands, or buts.

No. 1229150

Never go to any males for therapy. My male doctors were all useless and tried to get too chummy with me all the time. I'm seeing a female psychiatrist now and she's the best. True I have to wait a long time to see her because she's the only one with all her qualifications in a wide area so she's always busy, but she's just so great. She's even read dworkin and is on board with my views about society causing part of my depression. I've been improving so much in just one year. And she sees me for free because she knows I have financial issues and can only afford medication.
I wasted so much time on those male doctors I get mad thinking about it now.

No. 1229220

Going back and leaving negative reviews on all the moid psychiatrists who treated me like shit. I always get scared about being identified but fuck it they do not deserve to go unpunished.
Always leave bad reviews, nonnies. Don't let your bad experiences go untold.

No. 1229663

I just have to vent but after being laughed at by my first three
three
therapists who claimed I made up my abuse for attention because they knew her.
I hope you burn in hell with her. I'm so isolated and hopeless and every time I feel marginally okay to reach out and try to heal socially I am told I need therapy. Nobody really cares. I've tried therapy and it made me worse.

No. 1229701

>>1228917
>>1228952
>>1228961
t. has no real friends
Yes you’re so caring for distrusting your „friends” and being closed to them. You’re right though in your approach. If your only friends are women I wouldn’t trust them with sensitive information either. Especially if you assume they’re as much gossiper as you are.

No. 1229703

>>1229663
You deserve that for paying some random to pretend to be your friend. You’d get more compassion from the internet stranger than someone like that lol

No. 1229728

>>1229701
So you suggest trusting… moid friends with the information cause the sooper catty wiminz will mean girl me? Only women I dont trust with sensitive info is pickmes like you nonny but I just dont befriend them kekw.

No. 1229732

>>1229728
It’s a moid, it’s been tantruming all day. Just ignore it.

No. 1229734

>>1229703
Yeah shame on anon for looking for help and getting victim blamed, right? Her fault for looking into a service for its intended use? Fuck off

No. 1229743

>>1229734
See >>1229732
It was spamming retarded cringy memes and incredibly basic "shock" porn all morning and then switched to just trying to covertly bait in every thread.

Of course it isn't her fault.

No. 1229746

>>1229701
how dare you attempt to troll in such shameless broken english like this

No. 1229888

>>1218416
>>1225149
Suggestion anon here, forgot about this thread, but I am so happy you got some justice! Keep pushing through, and use the money wisely to do something nice for yourself!

No. 1230011

>>1229703
no one will ever love you lol

No. 1230326

>>1228878
Lots of women with complex PTSD or autism get diagnosed with BPD instead as it’s used a lazy catch all. Look at Amber Heard. I recommend getting assessed for both these things and a re-assessment for BPD to see if you still meet the requirements. If you are not able to remove the previous diagnosis you can at least show that it another therapist disagrees with the diagnosis. The sooner you do it, the better it will look.

No. 1230375

>>1230326
Oh I know I'm borderline, I was treated for it for several years at a different clinic and I've improved a lot aside from self harming behavior and mood swings.
I'm just annoyed that I was given the diagnosis when I can't even receive treatment for it and I was going to this clinic for ADHD treatment, never mentioned BPD at all. It's like he wanted to add a red flag to my file so other psych workers I interact with there would know.
C-PTSD is not a diagnosis in burgerland, I believe but I was diagnosed with PTSD before. And I was told I don't have symptoms of autism when I was screened for ADHD, even though I'm 80% sure I am autistic. If I press on it more I feel like I'll just be looked at as a lying BPD wanting a different diagnosis.
Both my main therapist and psychiatrist are male and I feel like neither take me seriously, they treat me and talk to me like a little girl.

No. 1230448

>>1230375
>And I was told I don't have symptoms of autism when I was screened for ADHD, even though I'm 80% sure I am autistic.
Get a psychiatrist who has experience diagnosing adult women to assess you. A lot of therapists only look for boys’ symptoms and don’t understand women’s masking.

No. 1230567

Why is healthcare so shit? Seriously. It's expensive as fuck, on my old insurances I would have had to pay like 20-30 dollar copays each therapy visits and nowadays it feels like you need to cycle through multiple different therapists to find one that's not complete dogshit, meaning you'll probably have to spend several hundred dollars just to find the right therapist and then even more to keep seeing them. Why is there no incentive to help people?

No. 1231181

I had a psychiatrist who I’m pretty sure kept mixing up my chart with those of other patients. He’d call me by the wrong name, ask me about life situations that didn’t apply to me, ask me how I was doing on a certain medication when he hadn’t prescribed me anything yet, and would stand me up on phone appointments then insist I was the one who didn’t pick up. In hindsight I think he called the wrong number and blamed me for it. Multiple times. He supposedly left voicemails, too.
He insisted on putting me on antidepressants to treat my autism even though my “depression” was entirely situational and IMO within normal boundaries of behaviour, e.g. feeling sad for a few days after a failed job interview. He eventually settled on a type of drug I had prior bad experience with, insisted that it would be fine this time because of reasons, then basically told me I was imagining things when I reported that the side effects were so bad I could hardly function. I continued taking it until he finally gave me the okay to stop but the letter he wrote to my GP heavily implied that I stopped cold turkey of my own accord. He also implied I wasn’t willing to accept help. When I tried to talk about all of this to the psychologist I was seeing within the same organisation, he said I was the only one to complain and that everyone else loved the guy.
The psychologist himself wasn’t as actively harmful as the psychiatrist but he spent most of our sessions talking about himself and his family, and all he really achieved was to get me out of the house to see him. I probably would’ve been better off joining a knitting circle or something instead.

No. 1231540

>>1231181
I had an Indian scrote psychiatrist at one point (they are the worst) who did something very similar to me. He'd ask me the same questions again and again or just forget small details about me that I thought he'd know by now. Or say things that didn't apply to me at all. I have a rushed bipolar diagnosis stained on my record that was given to me at a psych ward even though there is no evidence of me having manic-depressive shifts and he was trying to still insist I had it and milk it for all its worth. He also tried to imply I was schizo at one point because I had a brief period of paranoid delusions as a teenager.
He kept putting me on mood stabilizers and I'd always report back that they made me worse and he'd just say that that made no sense and that I was imagining things, then would increase the dose or put me on another. He would also get on my case for sleep hygiene all the time even though I worked a night shift job and got a full 8 hours after. I told him forcing myself to be a morning person makes me function like shit but he just denied it and went on about muh vitamin D and melatonin production. I wouldn't doubt his notes say I'm non compliant and unwilling to accept help too.

No. 1231546

>>1231181
You should have reported both of them. Mixing up patient’s files when he is able to prescribe drugs could end up killing someone, either due to pre-existing conditions or suicide from a bad reaction, same for pushing you to take drugs that reacted badly with you.

Even if it has been years since you saw, please consider reporting them. Ignore that they said about no one else having issues, that doesn’t matter.

No. 1249437

>>1226146
This is very interesting to think about. Imagine someone can make all sort of shit in therapy and if they are experienced with lying, they can get away with it with affirmations and asspats and feeling like the good one. Also malingering and fishing for diagnoses… a lot of weird things can go on.

No. 1249606

When I was 15, I had a therapist who straight out asked me what my fetishes were. I clearly remembered her asking if I liked "watching sex with animals" or "watching someone in pain." The conversation prior was NOT sexual and her bringing this up made me really uncomfortable. I later stopped seeing her because she actually got really angry at me for my unstable relationship with my boyfriend at the time.

No. 1249952

>>1150256
I only found out recently that the whole concept of "codependency" is an offshoot of Alcoholics Anonymous therapy. Women are raised from birth to be servants and offer unconditional love to men. Then, when lazy, abusive scrotes STILL can't function as adults, women get blamed for enabling them. Women get blamed for not knowing what to do, and repeatedly getting hurt, when their husbands turn into emotional black holes. Of course everything is the fault of individual mistreated women, and not men who demand servants and unwavering mommy love from women who aren't their mommies.

No. 1249974

When I was at my worst I made the effort to get a psychologist, I started pouring all of my traumas and feelings to her which seemed to never stop and by the fifth session when I was about caught up with my life story and I realized the therapist just… listened and nothing else, I started asking where could I start getting advice on coping mechanisms or meds, or why she didn’t say even say anything about when I said I was planning on coming back home to self harm (she literally just stayed silent or changed topics), she then insisted that I just had to have faith in her kind of therapy. Where I just talked and she just stayed silent and went “uh uh, and what else” occasionally and freaking nothing else.

She claimed that her kind of “therapy” had completely cured a girl with severe anorexia and god knows what else. Such bullshit. She also said I was one of the worst most fucked up cases she’s ever had which made me feel shitter. I’d have loved to get my money back.

No. 1250276

It takes a lot of energy for me to do therapy. I don't like talking about things all the time, I hate getting ready for appointments. Therapy is exhausting to me and if it were up to me, I wouldn't bother with it. I suggested to my therapist we do every other week and she immediately began grilling me about it. I had wanted to talk to another thing but she bounced the topic back asking me why I didn't want to do once a week, why I had left therapy in the past, etc. I was trying to tell her "it's not you, it's me" and then she had kind of this sarcastic, exasperated smile on her face. I feel like I offended her or something and she was desperately trying to get me to stick around. I feel like I have no control in our sessions and she just directs the conversation to whatever she wants.

No. 1250316

I tried out that free therapy they offer in university. The first therapist didn't help at all, she was just someone to talk to and she would nod and not say much at all. Eventually she left without notice, so I got another therapist.
The second therapist I talked to was a little better, although we didn't talk long enough to get any diagnosis. She just gave me some advice for my social anxiety and hyper-vigilance, which, not sure if it was the best advice, because it was basically just "ignore everyone else and be by yourself", when I was already very much avoidant. After the third visit, she ghosted me. Ignored my phone calls and emails. The therapist ignored my friend too, even when we tried contacting her about my friend's suicidal thoughts and bad panic attacks.
>>1230567
Seriously. I thought about trying therapy again, but it's so expensive. I also live in an area where therapy and psychiatry in general is scarce, so options are limited. There are actually 0 psychologists in my area (the closest is hours away), so I can't even get any medicine prescribed unless I talk to them online. I can only do talk therapy.

No. 1250321

Not a therapist but my GP got progressively (and somewhat understandably) more and more unhinged as the pandemic progressed. One day I had to see her to have her sign a bunch admin as I was in a pretty rough physical/mental state at the time from running myself completely rancid over uni. She really hates paperwork and it didn’t help that I’d attempted to email a letter the night before explaining my poor circumstances bc I didn’t trust myself to be functional enough to remember everything I needed to tell her in person. Anyway she got very cranky and said some mildly inappropriate things about how she thinks I’m “totally bpd.” Quite a frustrating appointment. She ended up leaving the practice thankfully. Hope she’s doing better now. She was also just super negligent in general. Friend of mine was also treated by her and was never told about received test results that indicated poor health.
Also had a therapist who would just stress me out to the point of dissociating every session. Same clinic also put me on Pristiq (and later tried to give me mood stabilisers when really I was just extremely burnt out from being untreated for ADHD in a very intense schooling environment) instead of looking properly into treating suspected ADHD at the suggestion of aforementioned therapist. Pristiq was a feral to go off of, but I was much more naive at the time towards doctors to think critically about what they were giving me. I suspect there was a paid incentive for that GP to prescribe Pristiq bc all it did was make me very ideative about suicide and unable to connect with reality.

No. 1250430

>>1249606
I had a PsyD psychologist call me "sexy" and talked about how I had 'dark energy' or someshit when I was twelve (12) years old. Needless to say I'll never seek a male therapist again
>>1249952
Codependency and enablement are 100% real. Obviously when a shithead does something wrong then they're responsible for their own decisions, but if someone was helping them along the way then they deserve scrutiny too. The family of that one school shooter in WI or some other great lakes state is a good example.

No. 1250508

>>1249974
The therapist expected you to talk yourself round to a solution by yourself eventually. I wish more therapists were open about this being the type of therapy they offer as so many people get caught out after realising after a few sessions it isn’t what they expected. It’s also just not going to work for people that have actual mental impairments.

No. 1250513

>>1249974
Ok so while it's pretty common to dedicate a few first sessions for the patient to explain their problems and go deeper into life story without therapist interfering, this
>She also said I was one of the worst most fucked up cases she’s ever had
is messed up. Even if true, it's totally unethical for a therapist to say that to the patient. I'm sorry it happened to you anon, she was totally unprofessional. >>1250508 is right about that therapists should put more effort in explaining how they are intending to work with you; I had a few not do that and it always kinda fizzled out with me getting no help and then the one I'm seeing right now explained exactly how she works, and then after listening to me, outlined how she sees our work together for the future, I suppose this is a great therapy green flat to look out for.

No. 1250547

>>1250508
Does that type of therapy work for anyone? Everyone I know who has experienced those types has been bitter & angry about it, myself included. It feels like a plot to squeeze money out of vulnerable people while claiming to help.

No. 1250576

>>1250547
To be fair, it did work a bit for one person I know but their issue was a recent one and something they could fix themselves. They are also very strong willed so I imagine the therapy sessions just allowed them to sort through their thoughts out loud and then push themselves to do what needed to be done. I wouldn’t say it completely solved their issues though and I think they still could benefit from someone pointing out patterns in their behaviour.

I imagine that the majority of people who go to therapy are not in this type of situation and it doesn’t make sense to have this style of therapy as the default.

Clearly someone who has had an abusive childhood or has been brainwashed by an abusive relationship or such like isn’t going to be able to see things objectively without outside help. I don’t see how it’s supposed to work for people who are introverts or autistic and just don’t talk much in general either.

No. 1250618

>>1250547
Yes. There are a lot of people out there who have no one to talk to, and not too big problems. So getting to talk to someone who is actively listening is very helpful to those types of people.

It wasn't helpful to me personally, though.

No. 1253785

It's so retarded that psychiatrist and therapist are separate professions. It's not that everyone who needs therapy needs drugs or everyone who needs drugs needs therapy but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of either group would benefit from an overlap in services. How can a psychiatrist prescribe drugs effectively to someone they only see for 10 minutes 1-4 times per year? Especially when you're just starting treatment for something, it just seems so insanely stupid.

No. 1254159

>>1253785
Where I'm from if you're seeing a psychiatrist exclusively, the sessions are 1-2h long, and you discuss your issues in depth for assessment; and if you're seeing therapist and need medication, the therapist should be in contact with the psychiatrist, and they will discuss you and how they see your future treatment; that's how it should be everywhere I imagine.

No. 1254219

I've had over 10 therapists ever since my preteen years (mid twenties now) and the worst one I ever had was when I was 16, she called me a spoiled brat and said I didn't have any real problems. She actually ended up calling my mom that night to apologize about how she acted and that she was having a bad day blah blah. Fucking stupid. Therapists are a joke. A different therapist I had when I was 17 made me write down a list of people I could reach out to when I was having a hard time, no family members were allowed to be put on the list. I kept saying I don't have any friends and she just kept saying "That's nonsense, everybody has friends" like uh ma'am I truly did not have even 1 friend. She wouldn't let me leave the room until I wrote down at least 1 person so I finally just wrote down a random ass name and phone number

No. 1254251

>>1254219
ot but I hate how everyone automatically assumes everyone else has friends/family

No. 1254515

>>1254219
>>1254251
me too, its absolutely retarded, i have no friends and when i verbalise this to anyone in passing they cannot hack it and will take it upon themselves backtrace for me and say stuff like "oh cmon dont be silly, everyone has friends" it is like it is so alien it offends them or something. no, i meant what i said, every word, very literally. i had a therapist who encouraged me to connect with old friends despite them being completely drug addled because somehow that is a better idea than being alone (?)

No. 1254673

>>1254515
yes when people can't see that being a loner isn't always a bad thing. I'm happy like this, why can't they just accept that? I can understand why they might want to discuss it in therapy but if I don't have a problem with it, then it shouldn't be the focus.

No. 1269334

Psychology is such a sham 'science'. My officially-providing-therapy-to-patients cousin is making me hate psychs even more than I already did. It's social science, right? But psychs talk about it like it's natural science. I don't think psychology or whatever as a profession should be abolished but their 'theories' and the conclusions reached can be predicted by some 14 yo going through their the human mind is great phase. Not that I don't think social sciences are useless, not at all, but psychology in particular just grates my gears, maybe mostly because of those who study it are the biggest bastards. Maybe if psychiatrists didn't have such a bad reputation as well… I don't know. It's all kind of Western-centric how psychology approaches certain things but I'm bad at artculating.

No. 1269373

>>1269334
Psychology(aka listening to retards vent) is a social science, psychiatry(aka the one who can prescribe drugs and diagnose stuff such as schizophrenia or ptsd) is a natural science. One is made up to scam retards who have no friends to listen to their worries, the other is for making the situation easier for actual mentally ill such as making bipolar cycles less aggressively destructive to themselves, giving antidepressants to depressed people so they don't kill themselves etc.

No. 1269380

>>1269373
Exactly what I was trying to say, and failing to. Just, psychiatry has such a shit reputation but it's more respectable than psychology, in my opinion. If it was just more, I don't know, welcoming?

No. 1269397

>>1269373
>is made up to scam retards who have no friends to listen to their worries
As if trauma dumping on your friends is a better idea. Some things needs to be discussed with a "neutral" person because they are just too private.

No. 1269408

>>1269387
NTA but this article covers a lot of what’s said in this post in a little more depth: https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/anti-depressants-are-guesswork-what-does-that-mean-for-those-suffering-from-depression/

No. 1269461

>>1269408
Halfway through this, very insightful. Also hilarious how touting 'studies' is the way or debate when knowing studies are not 100% accurate, seeing as the article says many are published by pharmaceutical companies themselves. It's all so… convoluted.

No. 1269529

>>1269373
Psychiatrists wallets rely on retards like you who blindly believe that their medications are reliable, safe, and effective.

No. 1269535

>>1269397
Trauma dump is just therapanese like "get help" meant to silence and pathologize people's normal emotions that are "too much" for you. Just say oversharing like a normal person

No. 1269544

>>1269529
Meds aren't reliable but make the mentally ill easier to stand.for people around them. They also make the mentally ill manage life easier for a short amount if they're a medicine like antidepressants, helping the person keep a stable mood so they won't lose their job, friends and family for the time being.
An unmeditated mental patient is much worse than one who's too drugged to lash out and suicidebait 24/7.
>>1269397
If your "friends" think it's traumadumping, they're acquaintances and you shouldn't talk about personal stuff to them.

I know some autists have issues understanding friendships and get shocked when someone gets more support for being depressed than they do but you actually have to help your friends through shit for them to help you back. You can't say it's trauma dumping when people vent and then turn around to complain when no one cares about your issues or even asks you what's wrong.

Normal people talk about their problems with friends or family on the other hand, some mentally ill autists who frequent this board go to psychologists for their issues and cry themselves to sleep because becky's friends actually ask her what's wrong when she's down whereas anons get ignored.

No. 1269547

>>1269535
She's probably trying to tell her issues to people she's not close to. I know a lot of autists struggle understanding boundaries and they end up not telling their friends their issues while telling their life stories to literal strangers - who tell them not to "traumadump" as a polite way to shut them up.

No. 1269553

>>1269547
Nta but this 'she probably has tism' thing is such a weird reach. Stop being petty.

No. 1269560

>>1269535
nonnies and their internet buzzwords.

No. 1269564

>>1269553
Normal people don't use words like trauma dumping because it's normal to talk with friends about their issues. Autists can't handle emotional issues and usually don't help their friends when they tell the autist about their issues, the autist will then accuse the friend of trauma dumping. Also a lot of users here are autists, how is it petty?

No. 1269584

there are certain people who will only use their friends so they can vent to them constantly while at the same time not giving a shit what their friends are going through or listening to their problems. I think its fair to say those toxic shitty people are trauma dumpers, unless you are one of those people and feel called out.

No. 1269586

wtf is this thread turning into

No. 1269625

>>1269604
people are sperging about autists or whoever traumadumping

No. 1270193

>>1269584
I'm the anon who said that anon was autistic and I agree with this, though the truth is a lot of autists behave this way and then accuse their friend of traumadumping when their friends are the one in need of help.

No. 1270197

>>1270193
Stop sperging about autists already. You word for word are repeating yourself now.

No. 1270221

>>1270197
I just told anon I agreed with her, calm down. This is a thread about psychology, of course the mentally ill will be discussed.

No. 1723211

I think after TikTok there's a shit ton of bogus "psychologists" making short content on social media. I always hide those videos, they give me the creeps.

No. 1723511

I'm glad this topic was bumped. I had a really bad experience with a couples therapist that I've never been able to get out.

I went to couples therapy a few years ago and it was a terrible experience. We tried to find a sex positive psychologist but the guy we found turned out to be a coomer apologist and quack. He was young and seemed to prioritize being a "bro" with my husband while trivializing my concerns. They'd both gaslight me and make it seem like I was unreasonable and crazy, while ignoring everything my husband did and saying it was normal.

According to this guy, my husband needed to be free enough to explore his sexualty and I had to stop being insecure and let him do whatever he wanted or else I was being controlling. Also the problems in our relationship were me taking issue and reacting to my husband's bs instead of doing and saying nothing. Excuse me?

Im bipolar, have anxiety and adhd, while my husband has ocd, adhd(both barely diagnosed at the time) and anxiety, yet this scrote refused to acknowledge that at all. I get the idea that people are not their mental illness and not to use it as an excuse, but to act like they have absolutely no impact on other people, your relationships or your reaction to other people at all is insane to me. At one point the guy also tried using an analogy basically saying its wrong to judge pedos for being pedos and for not wanting them around your kid even though they haven't hurt anyone. Literally what the fuck?? By that logic why not give your kid a cocked and loaded gun since it hasn't hurt anyone yet?

We were on the brink of divorce and this guy absolutely didn't help. I'd probably be turned off from ever trying another psychologist if my personal one wasnt so good.

Thankfully, as bad as things were, my husband agreed that there was something off about the guy and we stopped seeing him. We were able to mend things after trying out some relationship self help books and getting him to understand how defensive and childish he got during arguments and how much that hurt me. I still get angry sometimes remembering that shitty therapist.

No. 1723733

>>1723511
>Thankfully, as bad as things were, my husband agreed that there was something off about the guy and we stopped seeing him
How did he come to that conclusion?

No. 1723753

When I was in an abusive relationship 6 years ago, I tried to kill myself, and I was hospitalized. They diagnosed me with bipolar disorder, and put me on 3 medications. I was inpatient for a month. After I left, I was set up with a therapist and a psychiatrist who kept switching around my meds and upping them and adding more. Eventually I was at the highest amounts of each med, and I was on a cocktail of 5 of them to take every morning. I was miserable. I left that relationship shortly after hospitalization, thankfully. However, I've been unmotivated, sad, and extremely low energy until 4 months ago. 4 months ago I went off all my meds cold turkey. I was tired of the side effects and suddenly had started losing my hair. I was terrified it was from medication so I just stopped it all in the hopes it would stop the hair loss. This is what I noticed in those three months since stopping medication. I am happier, I have more energy, my sleep is higher quality, and I am excited to do my hobbies and be social again. I feel like I have actual thoughts again and am not a zombie. It feels like I woke up. And I'm heart broken that in 6 years, all my therapy and psychiatrist appointments, all they wanted to do was just keep giving me more drugs to fix the sad. Therapy somewhat helped, but there wasn't any conclusions I came to that my therapist gave me. No insight or advice. I really grew and matured and came to realize some tough truths all by myself. just want to clarify here: it is extremely dangerous to go off meds. Especially the way I did, I know that. I did it out of fear. I also don't think all medication is bad or anything. Sometimes, people need it, especially in really tough times. I definitely did sometimes. But the reason I'm making this giant blog post is just to highlight how scary it is how extremely drugged up I was for so long. I am now questioning my bipolar diagnosis. I was traumatized and in an extremely turbulent relationship with attachment issues. I'm sure a lot of my behaviors and emotions imitated bipolar disorder, but that does not mean that's what I had. I don't know. I have a lot to think about, and will be of course heavily monitoring my thoughts and emotions for the months and years to come. But… I feel sooo much more at peace, and happy now, off medication. And I'm sad that I was trapped in the system. But relieved that I'm free for the foreseeable future.

No. 1723759

I have trauma not a mental illness which makes it harder (maybe that’s a weird way to phrase it but I don’t know how else to describe). The only time I actually got help was when I developed an eating disorder and went to outpatient at my breaking point — no in between therapy stuff just walked in to the local university medical service for that (big medical school city in the us) and essentially said please help me fix this specific thing which worked wonders (I hated it sometimes but it helped so much) like they literally fixed me they are angels. My other experiences were kinda shit though, felt like they didn’t know what they were doing. Hard to describe… one ED nutrition counselor was anorexically thin that I didn’t give a second chance (sorry) and one guy who was literally a hoarder and a scatterbrain and wanted me to ask my boyfriend if a medication was working (like text him while I’m in a session and ask lol) and a handful of other mental health professionals who really wanted me to say what was wrong with me in medical terms but wouldn’t listen to my story unless they could connect it to a diagnosis and prescribe me pills. Pills tend to make me suicidal in a freakish way so it really turned me off shrinks. But what I went through in outpatient has stuck with me forever in a good way and the shrink there didn’t push pills on me. So I don’t think it’s all bogus but it’s useless when you go in with a vague problem, they don’t know how to help you.

No. 1723829

I feel like I need someone to talk to about my problems but my problems also aren't ones I feel comfortable talking to my friends and family about. It took me long time just to get around to seeing a therapist and I had to literally beg my husband to call and set it up for me because I am too chicken shit to make phone calls. I don't know if my therapist has given me any good advice so far though and she's kind of abrasive. So far:
>Told me to write a letter containing nasty hateful shit about my friend that I was having a fight with (this just made me feel sad to attempt)
>Told me she wants me to get angry and scream I the car and beat the steering wheel or whatever and I couldn't do it
>Literally will not stop talking about magnesium and other vitamins
>Screamed at me when I said I drink alcohol to cope with social anxiety (she's a teetotaler)
>is convinced my husband is so attention starved he does certain things just to gain negative attention from me since it's better than no attention (he's not and when I told my husband this and he laughed)
>Texts are completely incoherent and read like schizo ramblings and when I told her I couldn't understand them she got mad and said "I don't have to be perfect for you"

Maybe she's not that bad but a lot of this rubbed me the wrong way I don't know if another therapist would be better? I don't know what else to do at this point since my suicidal ideation has been on the higher side these past couple months.

No. 1723834

>>1723829
yikes she sounds like she's almost trying to make you worse on purpose. idk your situation that well but i would ditch her and rather try fucking journaling or something, she sounds like a huge mess projecting a bunch of her problems onto you

No. 1723867

>>1723834
I won't blog about all my problems in this thread but my own mental health problems are certainly not helping my marriage and it's getting rough. I kind of already did the whole "write an angry letter and don't send it" thing but they aren't really that angry just my feeling towards people or myself in the moment I'm upset. This helps me cry things out sometimes but I end up so mentally exhausted after and I don't think it helps my overall mental health in any way…

Other people mentioned therapists that seem to talk about themselves too much and this lady also has like 10 kids (even an adopted Chinese one) and is always bragging to me about them. Like I'm literally paying her to discuss my problems and she's wasting my money talking about her kids. She's also always complaining about her crappy phone and it blows my mind that someone who's career is talking to people wont invest in proper means of communication. Idk I have a couples session set up this Friday and it might be my last one. I'll see if me husband thinks she's as weird as I do.

No. 1723907

>>1149837
Therapy is a sham for milking gullible Americans. Go on meds, find self-reflection materials online and you'll be more successful getting your shit together without external 'help'. Outside of the initial diagnosis, you don't need recurring input from dodgy 'professionals'.

No. 1723946

>>1723907
>fry your brain with these drugs and you'll be so much better, pinky promise
I was on meds as a teenager and they ruined me forever. You can't medicate terrible environments and familial abuse. The problem won't go away if you throw drugs at it, if anything it'll make things worse. In many countries medicating patients against everything is exactly the problem.
Sure, some therapists are narcissistic cows but therapy is a necessary part of recovery so go fuck yourself.

No. 1723947

>>1723907
>you don't need recurring input from dodgy 'professionals'
>blatant med shilling in the same post

No. 1723975

>>1723947
One is cheaper and less time-consuming than the other, so pick your poison.
Ever thought why 'therapy' is mainly a thing in the US, but a niche in Europe? Socialised health systems want the cheapest, most effective solution, so that their money pools don't get drained by quackery.

No. 1723984

>>1723975
>pick your poison
the only actual poison is the medication
>cheapest, most effective solution
cheapest? for sure, but not effective at all. just creating new shit to deal with, as in side effects, to keep people hooked on the chemicals, like drug addicts.

No. 1723988

>>1723975
>Ever thought why 'therapy' is mainly a thing in the US, but a niche in Europe?
Source: your ass?

No. 1724006

>>1723975
Kek are you saying we don't have therapy in Europe? Wtf?

No. 1724010

>>1723975
>Ever thought why 'therapy' is mainly a thing in the US, but a niche in Europe?
Kek you're just making shit up, therapy is very much a thing in Europe.

No. 1724011

>>1723975
>Therapy is a niche in Europe
As an european, ma che cazzo stai dicendo diocane, se avessi un euro per ogni stronzata detta da un americano che non è mai uscito dall'america sarei ricca.
Therapy is not only a thing, but some countries make it even free due to some mental health programs.

No. 1724017

Another day on LC, another day of being baffled by self-assured american ignorance.

No. 1724025

>>1723975
Just because we are all fucked in the head doesn’t mean we don’t go to therapy. I mean YOU’RE all fucked in the head, aren’t you?

No. 1724075

>>1723975
Whereas American health insurance companies have no incentive whatsoever to deny expensive, effective treatments in favor of cheaper, less-effective ones… Anon, you dumb.

No. 1724082

>>1723733
He felt the guy wasn't understanding either of our problems, focused on non-issues, and his advice was extremely questionable. A few times he'd give some advice that sounded like it'd come from a terminally online twitter user and made us side-eye each other. He encouraged my husband to think about trying an open relationship multiple times, even though he wasn't interested in having an open relationship at all. When my husband expressed frustration and said he was almost ready to give up on the relationship and therapy because he was tired of the arguments, the guy took that as my husband being ready to commit DV and kill me/us both, which was absolutely not the case and seemed so overly dramatic. My husband was actually offended because the guy looked at him like he was a risk of killing me then shooting up a mall or something like that, which again, was completely wrong.

During solo sessions my husband would mention some of the hurtful, mean-spirited things he'd said during arguments and the guy waved them off as non-issues. My husband knew that he was completely wrong for some of the nasty things he said, so having the therapist dismiss it entirely made him think less of the guy. He started admitting there was a bias there.

At one point porn use/wandering eyes came up in a solo session. His advice to my husband was that I only had a problem with it because I was overweight and insecure, and my husband should think about how him looking at skinny girls hurts my feelings. While that's a real thing that happens, that was absolutely NOT the case with us and even my husband knew it. At that point he mentioned wanting to stop couples therapy because the guy just didn't understand us and wasn't helping.

On top of that we were paying him out of pocket so my husband got mad we were wasting so much money on couples therapy that was just making things worse.

No. 1724111

>>1723829
>>1723867
Your therapist is yelling at you, dump her. That's totally unacceptable and unprofessional. She honestly sounds like a nutjob. Don't even go back on Friday if you still have time to cancel without a penalty.

No. 1724113

>>1724011
>ma che cazzo stai dicendo
Sposami noniangela kek mi piace molto il tuo ~fuoco~

No. 1724147

>>1724082
How did you end up actually solving your issues together? Are things better for you both now?

No. 1724175

>>1723975
I went on meds before therapy for years and they didn't fix my brain or anything. I had to stop talking them because of side effects. One drug gave me constipation (and pretty sure lifelong issues with my digestive system as a result) and the other gave me hallucinations and brain zaps. There's always a catch 22 with meds.

No. 1724428

>>1724147
We looked through a lot of self help books to see if anything seemed helpful. Most of them were bad but one of them helped. It was Hold me tight by Dr. Sue Johnson. We didnt do a hard read but took the concept of figuring out what triggers us when an argument starts and leads to a negative feedback loop. We use that to figure out what reassurance we are expecting and not getting from that conversation, then vocalizing it to get that reassurance.

In our case, my husband couldn't have hard conversations when he was unhappy with something in the relationship (or in general) so he'd deny there was a problem while building resentment, then become defensive and avoidant. I'd see him become defensive and avoidant and it'd trigger my fear of abandonment so I'd push for us to talk about it, which would make him get angry and withdraw more, making me feel angry and pushing to talk more and on and on. We both perceived slights that weren't there or weren't intentional.

I needed reassurance that he wasnt ignoring my concerns and wasnt going to abandon me, while he needed reassurance that he could talk to me safely and I wasnt going to get angry or pushy. It turned out that he felt like I was attacking him during those conversations even though I wasn't. He felt like I had a holier than thou attitude and judged him for every shortcoming in comparison, so he got defensive preemptively and needed reassurance there. We had to learn to talk to each other and listen without getting too emotional, without taking things personally, and while giving reassurance. I had to learn to give him space to think and talk on his own time instead of pushing him for immediate answers.

Not related to the book, but we also realized just how out of control our mental illnesses were. We had to come to terms with being retarded and not being able to regulate emotions or handle stress. The stress would affect our moods and we'd lash out at each other without noticing why. We're more aware of it now and remind each other to destress and rest before it gets bad.

Things are a lot better now that we learned to communicate. We definitely got through it. We haven't argued since that period and we talk things out before they become problems, even if its just anxiety or if it feels like a silly concern.

No. 1724470

My mother and grandmother are munchies. Starting when I was around 5, my mom started taking me to psychiatrists. I think it was court ordered, because my family was under investigation from cps around the time. It quickly became my life. We moved states to escape the investigation, and ended up under investigation again because I missed over a year of school and was bouncing off the walls from the side effects of medication and possibly large doses of benadril. Mom doctor shopped me into a bipolar diagnosis at 8 and I was put on Lithium, in addition to adderall and an antidepressant. The meds caused physical side effects, so she doctor shopped those and had them medicated as well. We moved again, this time to an extremely rural area with almost no government services. There I was put on antipsychotics, diagnosed with schizophrenia, and repeatedly institutionalized based on mom's stories. On the way to appointments, she would scream at me the entire way there about whatever she'd found in my room or on my computer. When we got there I would be an emotional wreck, and would still be trying to figure out what what she was accusing me of when I'd have to explain myself to the psych. If I told the doctors anything, I was a compulsive liar whose out to ruin my saintly mother and grandmother. I was a zombie from 12-20. I recently learned I am allergic to caffeine (we only drank coke and mt dew, they think water is gross) and severely anemic, and that's what was causing the "symptoms". That and what's likely childhood ptsd from munchausen's by proxy. I know I need to go on disability, but I'm so terrified of interacting with the system again. My husband convinced me to try last year when my grandmother munchie'd herself to death and the whole family was harassing me for not being there to take care of her; but it made everything so much worse. It felt like no one I interacted with believed me, even when I was showing them proof of the harassment. A social worker told me as much and made me get a job so she wouldn't put me back in their care. I held it for 5 months before I had to quit from anxiety and the physical toll it was taking on me, which tis how the anemia and caffeine allergy got diagnosed. Now I'm seeing a medical doctor who is treating me for the health issues caused by the medication I was on over the years, but she can't officially diagnose ptsd and start the disability process. Sorry if this is incoherent, talking about this can be overwhelming.

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>male therapist, supposedly specializing in child psychology
>suicidal at 13
>see this psychologist
>vibe is wrong, feels untrustworthy
>asks what i'm there for, what i want to get out of it
>fuck if i know, i'm 13 and suicidally depressed, i want to not be depressed
>no attempts at teaching coping mechanisms, just asks why i feel how i do as if a 13 year old's going to be able to describe all that without help
>go for a few sessions, he gives up and tells my parents there's nothing he can do because i'm a friendless loner
It could have been a lot worse but it felt like such a waste of time and money. Worse my parents couldn't be bothered to take me even and my grandma had to take me. I've had better therapists since then but that one was so weird. I went to family therapy after my sibling tried to kill herself and that was hilariously bad, the therapists immediately pointed out my parents needed couples' therapy before engaging with family therapy which was soundly ignored.
My boyfriend's sister is a child psychologist too and yet her children are the ultimate tablet children with horrible behaviour sat in front of a screen all the time to get them to stop being annoying. I don't get it.

No. 1724497

At 9 or 10 I had a psychiatrist who was like in his 80s or 90s, and he would huff and wheeze the whole time like he was about to drop dead. Unsurprisingly he had no concept of the life and struggles of someone 1/10th of his age and just gave me sleeping pills because I didn't sleep well back then. He retired soon after. I don't really blame this guy tbh since he should've been getting cared for by someone and seemed like he was physically suffering. But it was weird and unhelpful
In my preteens I went through a whole slew of bad therapy and I don't even remember it all, but a big one was the new psychiatrist I got. I had a really rough time understanding her because she had a thick accent and she would constantly interpret my behavior as immediate suicidal danger even if it's just like, oh no I skipped school. She also had me on a cocktail of adult antidepressants that never helped but just messed with me physically, and she wanted me to undress to prove that I had side effects on my skin. To this day I'm really suspicious of psychiatrists and medicines, I feel like many of them are just pill-pushers who don't know any other solution.
I've never really found a magical therapist that I totally click with. I've had ones who were nice but noticeably libfem so I couldn't be honest about some edgier topics like the stress I get from troons. I'm still interested in finding someone but I have no idea how to search for ones who'd side with me on that topic. The only thing I can think of is finding an openly Christian therapist who also doesn't want to make the whole thing be spiritual counseling, but that seems like it'd take trial and effort.

No. 1724513

I was directed to a psychiatrist at my university and she was horrible. She was asking about me about my family life and if my siblings were depressed and I mentioned when my sister was no more than 10 years old said she would kill herself when she turned 25. The psychiatrist was stuck on that fact and was seemingly more concerned about what a pre-teen said almost 10 years ago than than my issues.
She also said alcohol could be causing my depression and I should stop. I'm in college and parties were my only source of fun so hell no I'm not going to stop drinking.
She also left her previous patient's profile on the screen when I walked in the room. I should have reported her.

No. 1724730

A few years ago I was a neet and struggled with a panic disorder and depression so I tried therapy. First big mistake I did was getting a moid therapist. When I told him that I wanted my boyfriend to get a job so he'll stop leeching off his parents at the ripe age of 27 he told me that I should try escorting if I like money that much. I am normally a very calm person but in that moment I felt so grossed out and violated and disgusted and angry that I thought about slapping him. I felt like he was violating mine, my mothers and my grandmothers honor and I don't think I ever felt so compelled to commit a violent act in my life. I just felt so disrespected. I knew that it would just bite me in the butt if I slapped him (even though he deserved it and I really wanted to do it) so I just got up and walked right out without saying anything. He messaged me a few days later via email and asked if I wanted to come back to 'sort out our differences'. I never responded and just blocked him everywhere. I hope his wife divorced him

No. 1724739

>>1724730
i hope your reported him (and if not, do it now), telling vulnerable women to become escorts is so manipulative and evil

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No. 1724809

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I cringe-loled in real life multiple times. It's just so fucking bad, especially if you ever had a ltr with an "I don't owe you anything" millennial scrote.
>Men’s childhood experiences of feeling responsible for caring for their mothers set them up as adults to be hyperfocused on any indication that their partner is dissatisfied with them or just unhappy.

No. 1724814

>>1724806
Kek almost all the points here are the exact opposite as seen in reality. If they worry about it they sure do nothing about it.

No. 1724823

>>1724809
pretty funny conclusion considering the world would be a whole lot better if men were actually like this and acted upon it

No. 1724835

Due to the fact that this thread has been gaining some attention again and also the fact that not many nonas took it upon themselves to suggest alternatives to bad therapy, I want to share something that helped me personally. Pros: It's free and it won't fuck you up like a bad therapist potentially could.

A lot can be achieved with self-help oriented content, what you need to have is the time for it and not be scared to "diagnose" yourself. If you suspect you have a disorder, there is a very big chance that you do, and even if you don't, content oriented to helping people with that disorder will be beneficial to you, assuming that there is a reason why you suspected having the disorder to begin with.

There are two Youtube channels that I want to recommend that could end up just as good (or better if the therapist is shit) than therapy. Both of them are critical of therapy (one of them used to be therapist himself and the other one was failed by mental health specialists as their patient) so that should give you an affirmation that your experiences are far from being unique or just unlucky, it's a very wide-cast net of incompetence on the part of these so-called professionals.

First one is Crappy Childhood Fairy (https://www.youtube.com/@CrappyChildhoodFairy).
>From her bio: "I’m someone who grew up with several alcoholics in the family, and all the dynamics that tend to go with that – poverty, neglect, violence, and an environment of chronic, deep stress. In adulthood, the telltale signs of Childhood PTSD were all there – health problems, depression and anxiety, relationship struggles–but traditional therapies never seemed to help."
>She is not a professional but has first-hand experience with CPTSD and many of her videos are centered around that. If you know anything about CPTSD you will know that it is often the pool source of some of the most common disorders (including depression, anxiety, BPD, eating disorders).
>Shares her own experiences with how she dealt with dysregulation (this is a big one and the "core" of CPTSD), triggers by otherwise innocuous situations, feelings of inferiority, and toxic shame among others
>Has a handy technique she calls "The Daily Practice" where every morning and every evening you take 15 minutes to write down every resentment and fear you feel (some people report having written 2 pages the first time they sat down to do this so, really, pour your heart out) and then dispose of the paper. This keeps your thoughts freer from the baggage of living with trauma.
>She often repeats key points throughout her videos and it's easy to pick up on her style of relaying information, so you can start watching her channel with whichever video catches your eye first.

And second one is Daniel Mackler (https://www.youtube.com/@dmackler58)
>A former psychotherapist who is highly critical of therapy due to the negligence of (particularly) USAmerican therapists in regards to their patients. BPD was mentioned in this thread a good number of times, so I want to leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8PRAKBEaQ. In the video he talks about how therapists diagnose patients with BPD if the patient is too difficult, so that the therapist can then justify neglecting the patient in various ways. It's not about help for many of them, it's about how profitable you are as a patient (and BPD patients are infamously a drain on their wages).
>Outside of videos about working in the therapy field, he also shares a lot about how his seemingly "normal" family had very particular and insidious ways of traumatizing him. This was mostly done through emotional trauma, with the parents playing tug-of-war with each other and similar things, which I know for a fact that many people can relate to
>If wanting to feel understood or listening to someone who talks about very common experiences you know to be traumatic that get tucked under the rug as "not THAT bad" is what helps you, I couldn't recommend this guy enough. He goes into detail about his personal life (including about how the family unit is a meatgrinder for kids and how it affected him and the kids of other people he knows).
>He's comfy to listen to. I was playing an mmorpg and having him in the background used to prompt me to reflect a lot. Despite him being male and me being highly critical of what moids say with their hundred methods of projection, he exceeded my expectations.

I hope this serves someone well. I feel sorry that so many people even need a therapist, this is a sign of an extremely unhealthy society. I got really lucky finding a format that helps me because I probably would've bent years ago if I listened to what the shitty therapists in my hometown or the "mature experienced elders" in my life advised me to do.

No. 1724842

>>1724806
>>1724809
this is maybe only true for "trans" men aka women. did they actually mean "trans men"?

No. 1724871

>>1724814
>>1724823
IKR? If anybody ever felt bad because therapy didn't work, or wondered why common talking points seem so detached from reality, just remember this shit. I hope this doesn't become the next "men can't express emotions" lie.

No. 1725428

>>1724809
Everything in this article sounds like raised by narcissists shit.

No. 1725451

I spent almost a decade, from the end of highschool through 7 years of college and starting work, severely depressed and suicidal and was even practicing wrapping rope around my neck and hanging from the support beams in my garage for long and longer periods of time but I only went to a therapist one time and never got on any meds and honestly I'm so thankful I didn't. My depression stemmed from the social isolation and compete lack of experience and direction in life I had and while I was able to get out of that almost entirely because of luck, I honestly think if I had gone to therapy and got on ssris I would have just become a zombie, spent a lot of time talking about my problems but not actually improving, and been stuck in that same rut I was in forever. I still struggle a lot in life and I still have a lot of permanent damage when it comes to dealing with others, making and keeping friends, making decisions, and getting a fulltime permanent job, and sometimes I toy with the idea of try therapy to work on some of those things, but I'm always scared off because I will never, ever take any type of meds and I know a bad therapist will fuck me over even more than just dealing with things on my own.

No. 1725529

>>1724806
This got the point kinda inside-out. They don't fear disappointing their families in a way that makes them try harder, they know they HAVE disappointed their families and they fear consequences like their relationships falling apart but they don't stop their behavior even if they are given the chance to improve again and again because…? I don't know, male socializaion fucked them.

No. 1725534

>>1724835
those seem interesting I'll check them out
by the way, I thought the "C" in CPTSD stood for "Complex" post-traumatic stress disorder, not "childhood"?

No. 1725536

>>1725534
It does stand for complex. People are trying to co-opt CPTSD by saying it’s purely childhood stuff and then everyone and their mom claims to have if because of course they were ofc muh r/raisedbynarcissists Crappy Childhood Fairy is a fake ass shill btw. A bunch of stuff she talks about has nothing to do with either form of PTSD she doesn’t understand the experience at all

No. 1725541

>>1725536
I am very turned off by the aggressive marketing on her page. Maybe there's something helpful in there but I couldn't get to it. Not to trash her if someone is getting something out of her free stuff but I wouldn't pay this woman.

No. 1725548

>>1725536
That's so stupid, the internet is such a disservice for mentally ill people, it makes no sense for cptsd to be particular to childhood, you can go through trauma anytime, I hope it doesn't catch on

No. 1725552

>>1725541
I’ve found some of her content helpful but some of it is very off putting. The videos where she outlines general concepts and the thought processes that tend to drive people with trauma to continue patterns are good but when people write in I feel like she can be way too harsh.

No. 1725715

i stopped going to therapy during the pandemic bc i dont trust video call visits. recently started using chatgpt as a therapist and not much of a difference really.

No. 1725785

>>1725529
I agree with this completely. They don't have any worries for the benefit of another person, just fear of punishment. Like a bratty child. Scrotes have bizarre, stunted behaviors that women can't even begin to comprehend. One of my exes would have mini emotional breakdowns after sex with me for years, he said it was because he wasn't good enough, but it was really just him cheating. I would never cheat like that in the first place, but if I ever did, I'd stop after I had the first mini meltdown. You know? They act like literal children.

No. 1725938

>>1724473
I really hate therapists who just ask “why do YOU think that is?” with zero guidance, especially if the patient is a child or someone who obviously isn’t going to be able to work everything out by themselves.
All 6 psychologists I saw between the ages of 10 and 21 did this. They would repeat “Well why do YOU think you have these problems?” until I shut down because I genuinely didn’t know, and then stared at me for the remaining 30+ minutes in complete silence while I cried. The handful of times I responded that I wasn’t a psychologist and I was hoping they could help me figure it out, they would get snippy and complain that I wasn’t respecting their process. They didn’t give up, either. They all milked the full 12 sessions/year that our insurance would pay for, only admitting around session 11 that we weren’t getting anywhere “but let’s give it one more chance”. I went along with it every time because I thought this was normal and the fact that I didn’t feel better after therapy was because I was doing it wrong.

In my early 20’s I was finally diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, which I had never heard of before. So for over a decade all these educated mental health professionals had been sitting there rolling their eyes at a child for not diagnosing herself with a condition she didn’t know existed.

>>1725529
>>1725785
Crocodile tears. If they actually felt bad about their behaviour then they would try to change their behaviour. They feel bad that their behaviour has consequences, so they blame and guilt trip the people who they see as responsible for the consequences.

No. 1726145

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Anon who recommended Crappy Childhood Fairy here.
>>1725534
It is "complex" not "childhood"! The reason why there is a big focus on childhood experiences is because for the majority of people that's when they develop CPTSD. If you grow up with a healthy family and a security net, you will be a lot more resilient towards traumas that may occur in adulthood, as well. In picrel I highlight which criteria applies the most (or exclusively) to children. Traumas that are specific to one situation get funneled into PTSD (without the C). The word complex gets added when the cause of the trauma isn't one event. CPTSD is not a separate diagnosis, it just clears things up a bit. Didn't think this would upset so many anons but oh well.

>>1725541
>I am very turned off by the aggressive marketing
I was, too. She makes a living off of making these videos, so that should explain why. I wouldn't recommend buying her courses or whatever she offers for money, because I haven't tried that, only the advice she gives for free. As with everything else, navigate her content in a way that suits you.

>>1725552
Videos where she addresses people who have written letters to her are a hit or miss. Many of the situations weren't very relatable for me, and a danger is that she is one of those women who deem having a family as one of the best life goals one can have. But other than that, she's competent. The harshness is necessary because most people write in talking about limerence and asking for help how to let go of their limerent object, so giving them a good reality check ("tough love" as she calls it) or being categorical is quite literally what they're there for.

No. 1731073

I really hate the psychologists and psychiatrists that have hurt me without helping me. Maybe I only had a good one once. That's all.

No. 1731223

>>1724809
>Men rarely… escape the belief that they are "only as good as what they've done lately"

Uh isn't that just called living? I believe they are genuinely afraid of this. Notice how they never do things that need to be done regularly on a regular basis? They think because they helped clean the house once that it's good enough, they think because they went on one special date that's good enough. Men are stupid and this article is trying to paint them as these sad boys but really you are only as good as how you are currently behaving. It's almost like they're saying that men have mental problems because they are expected to live their lives and not just make one accomplishment. Men want praise for life for that one time they stepped up to the plate. Meanwhile women run themselves ragged doing everything every day begging for help from the lazy losers. Makes me mad.

No. 1732085

>>1731223
This is exactly true. Women know that we don't get eternal credit for one good thing. If I neglect my pets, I'm a shitty owner, the good 2022 me doesn't matter anymore. 30 year old scrotes will get mad about being called cheap, then bring up their high school prom as an example of how great they treat girlfriends, and all the women who walked out of McDonalds dates are just unappreciative greedy bitches.

No. 1736284

I started therapy to process my partner/best friend trooning out. It’s through my school and almost every therapist they have is a she/they or a they/them. The one I’ve been assigned to has her office plastered with trans flags and wears a pronoun pin. I’ve given up, I do not feel comfortable at all sharing my thought with her, I go to an extremely liberal school with a huge troon population and I would be fucked if I was somehow ousted as a terf. I don’t have anyone to talk about this to. It’s such a uniquely fucked up situation that I don’t think I will ever be able to process through therapy, which sucks because I’ve always found therapy to be extremely helpful to processing big emotions like this.

No. 1736332

>>1736284
You may have to bite the bullet and go see an off-campus and/or faith-based counselor, so sorry nonny. I know how crappy it feels to have no one to talk to about troon partners/exes

No. 1736675

>>1726145
She’s not very tactful on how she describes situations sometimes imo. I actually do like the more “tough love” approach because as much as it ducking sucks and is unfair the only way to heal trauma is to actually take ownership BUT I feel like she can be really harsh and almost shaming some of the people who write in which is the exact opposite thing you want to do when dealing with people with CPTSD. It’s a delicate way of communicating and I think it’s her biggest weakness.

No. 1836331

I'm so angry at my therapist, he's so useless. The main problem? He keeps ghosting me.
I had a big breakdown 2.5 years ago and decided I need professional help. I thought that by now I'd be cured already but instead I'm worse than ever. From fall 2021 to spring 22 he suddenly went mia. I already thought his old anti-vax ass died from covid but instead he suddenly got a different office. In 2022 I then went somewhat regularly but in 2023 I only saw him twice! I know that I should have tried calling him more but he is my doctor and I am ill, he knows that I already struggle with daily life, so being annoying and persistent by calling is just too difficult for me.

Thinking back to our sessions he also made me mad so often. He kept pestering me about never having had sex, when this was a non-issue for me, I have bigger things to worry about. He also talked down on my family (e.g. because they're religious) to a point I felt like I needed to defend them. We kept getting into arguments about e.g. whether children are essential for happiness in life. Bitch I just told you that I need to stop myself from steering into a tree each drive to work and you think me having babies is relevant now?
He also kept belittling my problems, saying he would feel sorry if I was a short dumb little girl but because I'm tall, not bad looking and educated, he doesn't have to worry about me, I'm gonna make it somehow, as if looks determine mental health. (Plus more intelligent people tend to overthink more imo?) But at the same time he always weirdly pointed out that I gained weight.

Those 2 years he just kept pushing me from enduring one thing to another ("finish your exams then we'll see, take on this job offer and then we'll figure what's next"), when I came to him in the first place because I feel so clueless.
Typing that out made me realize that I accepted way too much from him, he really wasted my time.

Now I haven't seen him since july and I haven't taken meds for months either, so I'm really bad now. But searching for a new one seems impossible… back then I called at least 50 and kept getting rejected, I can't do that again

No. 1836346

>>1724809
>Men’s childhood experiences of feeling responsible for caring for their mothers
Where??? In my country men inherit everything because they get to "pass on the family name" but it's the daughter that's expected to care for the parents regardless, not the son. Men aren't even taught to do chores because when they get married, wife will replace mommy and they won't have to. Society operates on the premise that women give more of a shit because they do.

No. 1836365

I had a really good therapist but she retired and my new therapist is an absolute doormat. My old therapist had been doing it for 40 years, and she showed that. She was very good at her job, very no nonsense and blunt, which I needed. She’s the therapist that talked me out of transitioning, I like her a lot. But this new lady? She just acts like I’m not wrong in anything I do. If I say I was rude to someone and want to stop, she goes “but you spoke your mind” yea and I did it in the worst way possible, don’t act like I’m an angel who’s never gonna be wrong ever. I think she’s afraid that I’ll stop seeing her bc she’s new, but this passive kiss up attitude makes me want to stop more.

No. 1930365

>>1836365
I just ditched my very young and seemingly green therapist myself for this reason. She basically agreed with everything I said and made out everyone in my personal life to be narcissists, abusive, and so on. Like as someone with BPD traits myself, you can't just secondhand diagnose people in my life like that, when I'm most likely taking shit the wrong way to begin with. Kissing my ass isn't helping. She also just repeated everything back to me to do that whole active listening validation, which I can't stand. I'm honestly wary of younger therapists, it seems this is common with them

No. 1930385

>>1836365
I had to stop seeing a therapist because of this exact same reason, it felt like talking my own personal cheerleader, which is….not the role of a therapist. If I wanted that I could just get one of those AI bots to tell me the sun shines out my asshole and I’m never wrong. It’d be cheaper.

No. 1930412

>>1930365
>>1930385
Yeah, it feels like the younger the therapist, the more they try to tap dance around you and avoid any discomfort. For example, I had a fakeboi phase and instead of giving into my bs, old therapist straight up told me “you’re not gonna escape the trauma of womanhood by changing your gender” and that prevented me from full on transitioning. She saved my life because she refused to mommy coddle me. This new therapist, I can tell she is worried that any wrong word, and I’ll kms. Obviously a therapist should be careful with their words and try not to purposefully harm their patients, but I feel like she’s more afraid that I’ll harm her career by harming myself than she’s actually concerned about me as a person. She’s not the first one either, every younger therapist I had kept trying to make me the hero instead of working with me on how to stop me from being the villain

No. 1930476

therapy is not real and never will be, it’s essentially paying for a friend to vent to who will slap random titles onto your problems and call it a “diagnosis”

No. 1930479

>>1930476
During my undergrad Scientologists used to picket outside the psych buildings and scream the same things.

No. 1930500

>>1930476
Any therapy other than CBT and DBT are bullshit cons. Those modalities are proven to help people get outside of negative thought patterns and communicate better. They teach you strategies to rewire your brain, with the goal of discontinuing the therapy at some point. That way you don’t continue to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for someone to listen to you vent for 50 minutes. But honestly it’s not surprising that people seek out those useless talk therapists. People are so lonely these days and don’t have real friends to talk to.

No. 1930501

>>1930476
I used to think this until I found a good therapist.

No. 1930505

>>1930412
God I wish I'd had your old therapist. I tried to tell a therapist about my body image issues and she immediately tried to "affirm" me and asked my pronouns and it was so confusing and horrible. I've had a lot of therapists and they've all just mindlessly yassed at everything I did and thought. I had therapists that were highly rated and recommended, therapists that specialized in different things, but they all had that "therapyspeak" style of talking that I can't stand where they were encouraging me to have my friends "make space" and shit and I felt like they all tried to be too friendly. It didn't feel like a detached doctor/patient relationship, it felt like they were trying to coddle me.
>>1930500
I sometimes feel like the people who shill talk therapy the hardest are just people who want someone to vent to, and I suspect that's become a huge clientele base. Which I get, especially because so many women have emotionally retarded husbands and no time to make close friendships, but I feel like they need something totally different than I do. CBT was honestly not helpful for me at all, and EMDR especially wasn't, but DBT was. Therapy feels like a huge YMMV thing, and the more inconvenient/messy your problems are, the harder it will be to find a good therapist.

No. 1931112

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I've been made privy to our city's admittedly small psychologist's community due to my friend who is a therapist now. It's just a hellhole, I cannot imagine any of those idiots ever helpful someone. Sheltered, obtuse, self-important idiots who cannot be bringing anything of substance to the therapy clinic. My friend herself is a prime example as a self-dx'd everything who has an oversharing problem and the worst main character syndrome, she is unable to grasp other people's troubles. I've known her for more than a decade. To her patients, I can only say "good luck charlie". She is also a huge gossip so she shared her clients' stories with me, her fellows therapists' stories with me. It's all such a sham. Not to say things born out of psych are all useless, I've gotten great help from psych books and I think it can be a useful tool, though far, far from perfect or fully reliable. Therapy though, stupid.



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