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Johnny Gosch's disappearance is my favorite unsolved mystery.
I feel bad for his mother, who is still running that creepy site about him, but I feel like she's unreliable as hell about the whole "he came back home 10 years later" thing.
There's another one that I like, but can't remember the name of or much info about except there was a girl driving out in the country and just disappeared. They later found her car crashed into the side of an old barn on the side of the road, but they never got any leads about what happened to her. Anyone remember that one?
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Ah yeah, I remembered it wrong. It was the side of an abandoned house, so it was Brianna Maitland.
I don't know why but something specifically about this disappearance creeps me the hell out.
I love that too. Definitely related! Do you have a favorite case?>>112745>>112738
That is creepy. Thank you for linking!
I don't have a favorite, but a few that really have followed me are the ONS/EAR, Toynbee tiles (pretty much solved but the doc makers didn't want to disturb the artist who was obviously mentally ill), and the motive behind the James Bulger murder.
The Death Valley Germans was a mystery that wasn't very interesting, but the journey of a man in his quest to find their bodies is pretty interesting (spoiler, he finds them). It gave me a new appreciation for desert environments.
You can read that here.http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/search-and-rescue/the-hunt-for-the-death-valley-germans/
Wow, it's kind of shocking that this is still unsolved since three of them related (you would think the family of 3 missing members would file a missing persons report).
I wonder if it has to do with their native American heritage, and the distrust natives have with law enforcement. The estimated date of their death could possibly make police write them off as runaways, as the did frequently at the time.
Guess I never noticed them lol.
One case that I remember from unsolved mysteries that involved a missing black man was George Owens. His case makes me sad because he was probably so scared and lost, but couldn't figure out why. This was the case that made me terrified of amnesia.http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/George_Owens
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>>112789>Most of the population in the west is made up of whites
. All I did was link to a Wikipedia article, didn't expect this much ass-aggravation from >>112789
. Oh well, I guess.
The weird part is that she was apparently strong enough to open the tank. That sounds suspicious to me.
I honestly believe foul play was at work. Yes, she had a mental breakdown, probably, but this seems unlikely to be suicide.
Her case is what got me into mysteries and disappearances. It creeps me out everytime I hear about the part where she was found in the water tank.
Rob Dyke is a good youtuber to watch for this type of stuff when he doesn't do his comedy things. He covers everything from disappearances to freaky incidents. I recommend his channel for anyone interested in disappearances, murders, and mysteries in general.
Maybe Last Podcast on the Left might be up your alley. Their humor is extremely crude though, it took me a couple episodes to get into it.
If you're looking for something more cut and dry, Unresolved Podcast is another good one. He did an amazing 3 part cast on the ONS/EAR.
>>112848>It still feels weird that she would get in a water tank, assuming she did it on her own.
It's possible either drugs/medication or her mental illness prompted her to get in. If she was feeling paranoid, she might have gotten in there to hide. She might have been hallucinating. She looked pretty scared in the elevator, she might have hid in the tank to escape whatever was frightening her.
It could have just been a split second decision that she couldn't go back on. The tank would have been hard to get out of, even if the lid had been open. >>112825
The lids aren't as heavy as they look and I'm pretty sure they're on hinges, so a lot of the weight is taken off whoever opens it up. They're heavy enough to fall back into place though. If she only opened it wide enough to slip through (which I think is likely if she did get in there to hide), it would have closed when she dropped into the tank.
It will never be solved. Solving crimes like these that happen in foreign countries (and especially developing countries) are pretty much a crap shoot because the infrastructure and resources to help solve them are usually non-existent or completely inexperienced.
It's why I'll never go on a cruise. A boat full of drunk people traveling the oceans going from one foreign country to another.
The disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley really drives this home how fucked you are if you go missing.
The hotel has had a lot of disgusting murders and deaths that are very out of the norm like this, but hers is the most memorable of them for most because of this video.
The common conspiracy theory is that this is actually some place for government agencies to test mental experiments on unwilling humans or for the elite to pay and off people for fun, sort of dark web style. A lot of people there are overwhelmingly "unwanted", like homeless and very low income. Think old KGB conspiracy style stuff of kidnapping it's own citizens.
"The road on which the hotel stood - Main Street - quickly declined into the area known as Skid Row, with as many as 10,000 homeless people living within a four-mile radius and by the 1950s it had gained a reputation as a residence for transients."
That's viable, the only thing is Elisa was far from "unwanted", though. She was a middle-upper class Asian chick from Vancouver.
Wonder if she got into something bad/drug-related and ended up getting killed off.
I agree that her parents did it, probably to cover up her accidental death after being sedated.
Lol, didn't intend portugal specifically was a developing country, but the way I wrote it seems to imply that. Sorry it upset you.
Sage for derailing
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Honestly people die doing dumb shit and making mistakes when mentally well and completely sober so I don't know why people are so shocked that mental illness and drugs can make it even more likely.
There was that girl (Jamie? Janie?) and tried to crawl through vents to get into the restaurant, which is where they found her body a few weeks later. Maybe that was just a dumb decision or caused by her bipolar disorder, but either way it was a mistake that killed her. Sadly it's not that rare for people to die from a single strange mistake.>>113197
All it would take was an unlocked or unalarmed door (either the main one or one that led to one of the external stairways) or even a window near a fire escape for people to get onto the roof. The tanks aren't hard - they're designed to be opened up easily and the hatches are on hinges so a lot of the weight is taken off the person who opens them up. The only thing that was stopping her was security, which is likely shitty in a sketch hotel. She didn't even need a ladder because there are railings on the roof that you can use to get on top of the tanks.
Bored teens get into stranger places and a lot of urbex people can attest to how often "secure" areas aren't that secure.
She almost certainly didn't. And this is coming from someone who, from a cursory reading of the case, initially thought she did.
Guede was the murderer. He raped and murdered Kercher, or got her so high on something she didn't know what was going on and when she snapped out of it he killed her in a panic.
Niggers in Italy are known for this kind of shit. A few months ago there was a stupid as fuck American girl who got high on coke and went home with an Eritrean asylum seeker (I shit you not, wtf white girls…) who fucked her and then beat her to death when she mentioned he needed to leave because her boyfriend was coming over.
This entire shitshow.http://keddie28.com/
First heard about it on SA around 15 years ago. That's the third iteration of the site and the owner is a hippie whack job who is e-begging for 'donations' to continue his 'research'. He reserves the unreleased police reports and photos for forum members who suck his e-dick or donate money if you want to play that game. The fact that the local sheriffs office let him run off with their case files tells you all you need to know about their competence. Throw in the fact that this guy did it because some other guy stole a bunch of evidence before and he wanted to 'archive it online' and it's a goddamn circus.
I won't bother typing what would be a 100 page synopsis but it boils down to Iran-Contra/CIA drug running, Chicago Mafia, corrupt Sheriff, and 'lost' evidence tapes.
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this is a decent podcast that covers everything about it, because the creepiest things were the coincidences surrounding the case.>her asshole was completely fucked up but the police tested her body of every drug except rape drugs>the invisible light agency>Aleister Crowley infamously performed a ritual summoning an inter-dimensional entity called LAMB at the hotel in 1919.>that 2004/5 movie made before her death , dark water, featured coincidences including an Asian women being found in a water tank a top a hotel.
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So…what do farmers think?
Clearly didn't care about her kid, typical party mom.
Instead of doing the right thing like getting an abortion or signing the kid over to her parents after it was born, she thought she could handle the highroad. However she fucked up, covered up the neglect/accidental death, but then got a taste of the childless single life again. She realized in that moment that she actually didn't feel bad about her child being gone, and what she actually felt bad about was possibly going to jail for it. All along she craved freedom from the responsibilities that she signed for.
Not really spooky to me. Just makes me thankful I made it to adulthood and didn't get stuck with a bad number for a parent.
yeah it's a remake apparently but it was still made before Elisa's death.
too many coincidences, ++++ 43 seconds are missing from the security footage the police won't release, ++++ they didn't test for rape drugs when her a hole was mangled
Yup. I went down that rabbit hole. My guess is one fell and was severely injured, the other either tried to help and injured herself or she stayed because she didn't want to leave her friend. They died of exposure or starvation/dehydration, flashflood, or some other natural cause. Their bodies washed away and made their way down stream.
They used the camera either to fend off what they may have thought were animals, or to try and attract help.
This is why you don't go off trail and always have a game plan of things go the absolute worst possible way. Even then though there are scenarios that no one can prepare 100% for.
You sound like a sheltered little shit.
I can't blame you, you probably never left your white-mostly neighbourhood except when going to safe places with your parents or your boyfriend/husband on your family's SUV.
They don't think they are invincible. Anyone going to these places know they are taking risks.
Stop treating women like children. If they want to go, let them go.
Lol. Bitch I'm not white. I wasn't even born in the US.
White women who go to any south american unprepared and uninformed are children. Sorry. Hope u get to have your Eat, Pray Love experience you basic bitch
Where does it say these people went to SA uninformed and unprepared?
Sorry you get to be a bitter bitch that doesn't travel and doesn't want other people to do it.
Top5s on youtube usually has some pretty good videos on stuff like this. >>114265
Wendigos are my personal favorite.
White girls treat their dads like shit.
Why not just go to a safe country like Spain or Greece rather than a central American hellhole.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
There are 2 other Local 58 videos, in case you haven't seen them. The one you linked is probably my favorite of them, though. Gives me the fucking creeps.
Also, did anyone ever watch Lost Tapes? It was this extremely corny found-footage type show dealing with monsters and cryptids. It was really cheesy but once in a while the episodes legitimately spooked/shook me. I remember this one about aliens freaking me out, although I haven't re-watched it.
Cayleigh Elise is my favourite.
South America in general is haunted as shit. All that cartel stuff..
Like that guy who got his face peeled off with a box cutter and hands chopped off. You can't tell me there's no residual energy left over from that. They have certain houses/warehouses they do all their torturing in.
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I heard stories from Peru,Bolivia and Colombia that there are these evil witches/Satanists black magic practitioners that kidnap people (they live in far away rural area, basically in the middle of nowhere)
They mostly kidnap children or teenagers and use their body parts in these blood rituals for these powerful demons (not just Satan)
Since they workship them,they're souls are also given to them
I felt such an uneasy heavy vibe when I went to this village in Peru
I think the dna findings point to possibly the dad doing some fucked up shit/maybe letting someone else do gucked up shit to him. The actual murder, I think there's a big possibility of it being the brother, he must've been jealous and too rough. What doesn't make sense is the timeline, the goddamn pineapple and the note with their own notepad. A) There was some sexual relations between the dad/some other men they pimped her out to, went in too rough, they freaked out and fabricated the whole note thing. B) The brother did it and the parents tried to cover it up.
I think there was definitely something very disgusting going on and wouldn't be surprised if it was some mix of these two.
the podcast true crime garage recently did a like 5 part breakdown of the case that goes extremely in depth and only sticks to facts that were known and it completely changed my opinion on the case (i was originally positive the family was in on it). i highly recommend even if you've watched/listened to other jonbenet coverage.
there were three things that stuck out that changed my mind about the family being involved:
first, while there was evidence of sexual abuse at the time she died, the coroner concluded there was no evidence of long-term or historical sexual abuse. she had no scarring typical with that type of sexual abuse, and the abuse was consistent with digital manipulation but nothing further. this disproved to me the idea that the dad or someone else had been molesting her leading up to her death even though that's a popular theory. the evidence just doesn't support that unless he molested her once and then killed her right after.
second, her head injury came with no blood. there wasnt a puddle of blood when she was found, her hair wasn't matted with blood. this indicates to me that the head injury was inflicted post-mortem to ensure she was dead after she had been suffocated with the garrote. that rules out any rough accident with her brother or her mother throwing her after her bed-wetting, etc.
lastly, there was evidence that when the killer was using the garrote, he was repeatedly loosening and tightening it, presumably to bring jonbenet to the brink of unconsciousness, then let her revive a bit, then do it again. this to me is the behavior of a disgusting, sick pedophile who was getting off on watching her die. say what you want about how weird the ramsey's are, but i dont think any parent who was just covering up an accident would go that far.
a lot of the evidence that is presented as fact and sensationalized is shoddy at best or just plain misreported. the handwriting analysis wasn't as damning as the media wanted to portray. there was no sign she had been continuously sexually abused. some of the police on scene who later claimed sensing something ~sinister~ about john ramsey never indicated that in early interviews. the media circus really incentivized people to act like they had the key to solving this case even when they didn't.
what i think happened was a pedophile was planning to abduct jonbenet, saw an opportunity, and took it. i think maybe he came in before the night of the crime to scope things out and see the layout of the house to plan the abduction. he then returned to act it out, and was successful in getting jonbenet down in the cellar. i dont think he intended to kill her, but wanted to get off on bringing her in and out of consciousness with the thrill of her parents being upstairs because it aroused him. i think his intention was to then put her in the suitcase and leave with her or just carry her out and flee. i think he accidentally took it too far choking her and killed her, and then panicked. this would explain haphazardly using items from around the house to write the note, the note being weirdly long, etc. i think he hit her in the head to insure she was dead before he left so she couldn't be revived and possibly identify him. and that was it. then the investigation was so hopelessly botched and it became a worldwide sensation and at this point i dont think theres any hope for her case to ever be solved.