/ot/ - off-topic

I was born in 1992, so I guess I would be a millenial. Kind of sucks that people complain about us so much and put us all in the same box when we're such a HUGE group of people. Oh well, that's fine with me since we're going to outlive them anyway. Fuck 'em.

i too remember a time before the internet and mobile phones, shit was wild. i blame neopets for my internet addiction. i feel a little jaded to be considered a millenial. 1990 here

>>112492
Millenial, I think it's all hogwash with what the baby boomers have to say about us. I've noticed it's more so of the younger group that are "gimme gimme gimme". Or rather "I deserve this because I was born"

>>112490
1991 here. I'd say the only generational stereotype I fit is having student loan debt from two degrees, because heaven forbid I wanted to educate myself and look good to employers. If college tuition worked like it did during my mom's time, I could've just worked all summer and had money to pay tuition off.

Other than that?
>full time job
>employer healthcare
>never been on gov't assistance of any kind
>moderate
>can clean and cook
>stable relationship
>good credit
Ageism from boomers really pisses me off considering how I'm doing pretty damn good pacing-wise. I'm not even thirty and really the last thing I'm missing is owning a house.

>>112490
I was born in 1993, but I don't live in the West so computers and all that took a while to get here. Also we had a civil war.
So the picture of the entitled millenial doesn't really apply to me, I feel more like a Gen X than anything. I always thought millenials were kids born after 2000.

>>112490
1986 here (yes I'm old)
nope we're not Gen-X but millenials, also called digital natives because we grew up with the rise of digital technology and knew a time before it.
Gen Y is the generation after us, those who grew up when digital technology was already going.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation#List_of_generations

>>112490
>>112497
You can also call us MTV Generation apparently since we're early Millenials
>MTV Generation, Gen X-ers and early Millennials who were heavily influenced by popular culture and mass media
And I do remember growing up with mtv and the rise of media
In my country America was very popular in the 90s because of it's media

>>112497
1987, so, old with you, fam.

But, weird. I didn't think we were millennials but damn. I guess we are. That sucks. I know everyone thinks the generation behind them is a bunch of retards but seriously, the people I talk to in their early 20s seem so far removed from me at times. We're in way different spots in our lives.

>>112496
09.09.1990

me too, i didn't know up untill this point we're part of some group that older fags think are little shits.
it's really wavy to think about it, I pretty much grew up thinking there are only younger people than me i can hate, but forgot i'm hated by older people. older kids, even

i don't know what's happening though.
most of us lived in the no comp no phone era, shit was MASSIVELY different, everyhting was better
and life changed so drastically over 20 years, even less, it sucks to think that one day you might bring a child in to this world to fucking suffer lmao
i don't even notice the younger people anymore tbh, i just naturally feel to avoid them

I'm probably the youngest here rn, born in 1996.

I don't remember a time without some form of internet, but I do remember dial up, how groundbreaking the blackberry phone was, tv being the ultimate form of entertainment because your grandmother was too busy hogging up the phone for you to play mmos, and other shit like that.

1993 here, time passes so quickly when you get older. I wish people could just chill and get along. I kinda miss not being expected to have a cell phone on me all the time. Social media never really interested me too much (except myspace), honestly thought it was gonna just be a fad.

>>112490
Guys, what happened to MTV? It used to have a lot of interesting programs. I remember it being rebellious and counter-culture. When I was little, my mom actually went out of her way to remove the station from our cable so it was just a staticy channel. That's how offensive and scary it was to older people.

Now it's full of literal SJW programming shit like this for teens.

>>112519
I was born in the early months of 1998 and I can vaguely remember watching things like Beavis and Butthead or Daria with my older brothers and sisters. I even remember Jackass. I'm not sure exactly when mtv started going sjw because I stopped watching it around 2010.

Hell, I miss the old cartoon network. I used to like watching Ed, Edd, n Eddy and Johnny Bravo. Now it's all this Steven Universe shit and god knows what else.

This may be an odd observation but I've noticed that kids born in 2001 or later more for the shit mtv has on now. Kids born 2001 or later seem so oversensitive. I know there isn't that much of an age difference but what the hell. We get some at my uni when they come for college tours and it's like they all seem so coddled self entitled. They expect to be accepted into any college I guess just for being some type of special I guess.

I find it weird that even an age gap of even three or four years can make a difference in kids. Out of curiosity, were scholarships always handed out for dumb shit like being a pagan(yeah I've seen scholarships like that)or being born a certain year? It seems like middle schoolers and early high schoolers can get money just for dressing a certain way.

(Somewhat off topic) I was born in 1998 as well, and I've always found myself fascinated by the 80's and early 90's. I wouldn't say 'i-i was born in the wrong generation!!!111' but those eras legitimately make me curious, so I like reading about them and watching media from them.
>>112525
I also grew up with those things too. And yeah, I also agree with your observation.

>>112527
It's odd how people born in 1998 and '99 try so hard to say "I was a 90's kid. Only 90's kids remember this show." I don't understand really. I'm from 1998, I was a 90's fetus but certainly not a 90's kid. Some people get mad if you tell them they were a baby and not a kid. Why does being a "90's kid" seem like some type of grand title? Yeah the 90's definitely had some kickass shows but it's just a period of time. I'm not saying you're one of those but I've just noticed that some out there believe being a 90's kid is like being god.

I was born in 1994, making me a part of the millennial generation, but my parents are baby boomers. So i grew up with a more gen x/boomer-children values/mindset so I feel a little 'out of sync' sometimes with some of my millennial peers with younger parents and less "boomer" upbringing. I was also a bit sheltered (I guess bc boomers) so I was usually late on getting into things: didn't watch MTV, didn't have a cellphone (shitty pay as you go phone) until midway into high school (didn't get a smartphone until well into uni). I used the internet a lot, but was an awkward fuck so I didn't get into social media until very late.

Some of it still kind of boggles me. Like manipulating your social media pages to reflect a certain "personal brand", that's fuckin wild imo. It helps me relate to older people sometimes, but I have absolutely no idea how to deal with people in their 30s who are still clinging to their childhood faves. It's like, grow up? But also I guess that's okay? It's conflicting.

>>112530
'90s kid shit is for people born before 1994. I was max 4 in the '90s I don't remember shit lol. I love the 2000s though.

>>112530
Probably because a lot of 90s stuff seeped into the early 2000s. Even for a few years after 9/11.

>>112530
I think it's because the 90s were the last golden era of a lot of things. On just a smaller scale most people pride themselves on, it was the prime age for TV shows and cartoons of any network, pop culture was bright yet rebellious, technology was good enough so that you could have internet, video games, and lots of other electronics, but it didn't overwhelm people.

Look at todays snowflakes and economy and see why people hate millennials. They're seen as oversensitive as well as entitled and that is true about a lot of them.

The economy and society is also shit now, most millennials don't have a good future ahead of them thanks to how they're taught to be special snowflakes, and generally early last century was just a better time. I do think there's some good reason to take pride in the 90s, even if some people just use it as a badge.

>>112531
>I was also a bit sheltered (I guess bc boomers) so I was usually late on getting into things: didn't watch MTV, didn't have a cellphone (shitty pay as you go phone) until midway into high school (didn't get a smartphone until well into uni).
>I used the internet a lot, but was an awkward fuck so I didn't get into social media until very late.

Same on those, although I was born in 1992. My parents initially hated cell phones and we had dial-up internet well into when I was in high school. To this day they still hate technology and don't seem particularly interested in learning how to use things like a GPS or even having caller ID.

I think people in our situation may have been screwed over more by our parents then others. My older co-workers seem to care a lot about their kids that are in high school or going to college, like helping them with applying or finding scholarships whereas my family had little to no interest in my college education. Neither of them had to get a degree for their jobs so they just expect all these twentysomethings to be able to go out and live when it's nearly impossible without finishing college.

Doesn't help that so many retirees go out of their way to take entry-level jobs and cry foul about not getting hired over younger people too.

>>112545
>think people in our situation may have been screwed over more by our parents then others. My older co-workers seem to care a lot about their kids that are in high school or going to college, like helping them with applying or finding scholarships whereas my family had little to no interest in my college education.

It was the opposite for me. It was less that my parents hated technology but more that my dad was so invested in his kids being well educated that when he caught wind that I was more interested in bookish things than my older siblings ever were, he went into it hardcore. So I read books and things instead of consuming mass/popular media, took summer school classes/did academic summer camps despite being a straight A student, internet time was used as a reward/punishment for great/'could be better' grades, etc.

That being said, I do lack socially. I've never quite gotten a taste for pop culture shit so whenever people gather around to talk about the latest shows or something I'm very much "well how do you do fellow kids".

>>112538
Yeah the 90's was great tv shows and music. I think it was the only time when rap was actually decent. Then when 2000 hit it seemed like it was still but 2006/2007 and later it went down hill and into the shit we have today.

Yeah I agree with you on the special snowflake thing. I understand the whole "be yourself" thing but all this shit where people need special treatment or require things handed to them for being one thing or another is bullshit. A lot of people say millenials are oversensitive yet they cater to them. My uni actually has trigger warnings for a lot of lessons now and you can just leave class if you get even the tiniest bit uncomfortable. We also have safe spaces and offending someone requires you to get a stern talking to about people's feelings. It's garbage.

>>112545
I didn't really grow up on a lot of technology. Up until I hit about 14/15, tv and video games were basically all I had for technology. Internet usage was like a golden privilege. I was born a few years later than you but my parents just kept internet as a special treat or for school research only. Honestly, if I ever have kids, I'm worried they'll grow up with all this special snowflake nonsense and if it's bad now, i can't imagine 10 or 20 years from now.

My parents spent their childhood in the 60's and their teen years in the 70's so they believed in making their children work for stuff. Want a phone? Go out, get a job, and buy it yourself. If it wasn't Christmas season or an essential, everything had to be bought with our own money. I found it odd in middle and high school that parents practically bought my classmates all their electronics and high priced shoes. Even if they weren't well behaved whoever cared for them bought them everything and handed it to them.

I guess I just wish more kids these days were raised to be more hard working and not so ungrateful. They probably wouldn't be so sensitive as a result and be more enjoyable to be around.

>>112548
>Want a phone? Go out, get a job, and buy it yourself. If it wasn't Christmas season or an essential, everything had to be bought with our own money.

I've had two jobs since I was 18 but it just made me envious of other people who were able to go straight to University.

>>112548
>in middle and high school that parents practically bought my classmates all their electronics and high priced shoes. Even if they weren't well behaved whoever cared for them bought them everything and handed it to them

depending on your income level it's either
>parents who grew up poor and wanting cool things who got decent paying jobs and don't want their kids to feel the shame of being lame
>2 rich 2 care about money

my parents bought my stuff because they didn't want me to take the time with working and solely focus on school. sounds spoiled, but i'm kinda glad for it. people who work at young ages seem to tend to get stuck with tons of experience in retail/service and stick to those kinds of jobs [for the most part] for a long time.

Idk baby boomers like to shit on millennials and saying that they think they're entitled and deserve everything for free. It's funny because, guess who cries "This is HOW much?? No, give me a discount, I deserve it!" And "Ugh do I have to wait in this long line?? I need to cut ahead everybody because I'm obviously more important!!"? It's always those baby boomers. I've noticed that millennials are so nice to people working in the customer service industry and also I know more old people with social media accounts than millennials (my only social media is an Instagram that i go on every few days and rarely post) and they spend hours on there and gossip with each other about the post that Gina from Monday night aerobics uploaded.

>>112551
It's ok if you want to get your kids some stuff from time to time. I'm not saying that's bad at all. It isn't a big deal but to get them every single thing they want. Where I'm from it was pretty low income so generally it was people who just made poor spending choices. Imo, you don't sound too spoiled at all because you focused on school and your parents wanted the stress of other things off of you. That's way different. I meant like the kids who go like this: "I want this new iphone. You gotta buy it cause it's new and I want it even though i never go to my classes and I just disrespected the hell out of you". I just don't think it's a good idea to give a child EVERYTHING when they can't show any form of discipline.

>>112554
I know more baby boomers with a Facebook than I know millennials. Most millennials I personally know use twitter or something else. But Facebook seems to be more of an older people thing.

>Facebook is old people now

Is this an American thing? I'm 25 and in the UK and everyone I know has a fb.

>>112554
Baby Boomers are literally what made millennials the issue they are. I say both are equally as toxic. I think if we removed those generations and replaced them with something more like the others, we'd have a much brighter future ahead of us. I mean, someone had to program the kids to be hypersensitive snowflakes, it wasn't just them stumbling into the world suddenly wanting to use SJW buzzwords.

1990 here. I'm not from the US so my definition of a 90's kid is a bit different since the American popular culture only entered our society in the very late 80's or so so we weren't that accustomed to it yet. My country suffered a gigantic financial depression in the early 90's so people born from 1985 to 1994 pretty much just remember their parents being either unemployed, overworked, alcoholics and/or poor, all the schools and other public services running out of money etc. My generation has a lot of mental issues due to this, kids born in the later years have it better since the economy started recovering in the 00's.

But like in every country even here the boomers still do fucking nothing but complain about the millenials while enjoying all the perks and benefits their generation got to have. For them it's normal to be working in the same company from when you're 24 to when you're 60. For us we're lucky if we get even 2 years at the same job. We will never have pensions as high as they do, and even at the moment the pension funds we're paying for OURSELVES are going straight to their pockets. We're having less and less kids because we can't afford it. Graduating from university/college takes a lot of time because we need to be working on the side to fund our studies so we constantly see boomers complaining about us just "slacking off" at school.

Anyway I remember being jealous of Americans because we didn't get much of their shows here. If you wanted to see something you guys consider legendary 90's fodder you had to get an expensive cable to watch foreign TV channels that were only in English, a language most kids didn't speak that well back then. I could go on about my country's 90's but I don't think it would contribute much since it's kinda different from the English world. Well, we did have the same XTREME!!! 90's stuff going on when the economy started recovering after 1996 and suddenly stores had cool ice cream selections and a ton of new cartoons came on in TV. I remember Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (which was HUGE here by the way despite not many american things catching on back then), Quack Pack and Goof Troop. And Backstreet Boys, I don't remember any other boyband breaking it through here so well. I must've played that Millenium album every day when it came out.

I don't get why so many people are hating on technology and the internet though. Being a lonely kid in the 90's was boring as hell. My neighborhood only had old people and no kids and I was bullied in school so I just had to entertain myself all the time and never learning to socialize. Getting an internet connection was the best fucking thing ever, I could finally talk with other people and learn new things. Smartphones came when I was already over 20 but I sure do wish I had one in middle school.

>>112571
Are you Croatian, anon? Our experiences sound very similar

>>112575
Kinda close, but not quite. The collapsing of the Soviet Union affected a lot of eastern Europe in the early 90's so I guess people from other nations share our experiences too.

>>112558
Maybe. I'm American and the only people I know who actually use Facebook are in the 40+ age range. Sage for off topic.

>>112555
oh, yeah, i see what you're saying now. and i agree, it's stupid and then you get stuck with

>>112564
you skipped a generation. gen x, the children of boomers, programmed young millennials/gen z to be hypersensitive and shit. since often people want to raise their kids differently from their parents/growing up in the 60s/70s with all those hippie movements and such.

usually when old people complain about millennials they're not really talking about people in their 30s now. or are they? i think that's why boomers are so hateful about it, 'that's now how i raised my kids'. i mean, boomers complain about everyone, but the kids/people who are actually entitled and hypersensitive have gen x parents.

>>112558
i think using facebook as a primary social media is now an older people thing. most people i know, while they have fb accounts, still tend to use instagram/twitter/etc more often, day-to-day.

>>112564
Like >>112583 said it's more likely than not, Gen X parents who made a lot of kids today like this. My younger sister is friends with a girl who is about 14/15 and holy shit is she sensitive. Her mom is from Gen X and the girl is basically the sad stereotype of a tumblr sjw. I'm sure there are plenty of people with Gen X parents who aren't the sensitive stereotype but sadly there are shit loads of them out there.

>>112571
I have a college professor whose husband HATES technology. He won't even turn on a computer or get certain forms of television. She's not as into it but she at least knows how to operate a computer in some sense for teaching purposes.

Speaking of technology, the majority of my older siblings grew up in the 80's and 90's so they think technology pertaining to streaming services is awesome. They remember having to be present for those Saturday morning cartoons because if they missed it, that was it pretty much. It's not like now where you can just record the episode and watch it later or just go on netflix. So yeah, in a lot of ways, technology is the shit but I guess a lot of older people just prefer good old fashion antenna tv.

>>112583
I'm curious. If Gen X is what made kids so sensitive, are they reason why disciplining today's generation has become even harder? My parents and grandparents remember getting spankings and whatnot when they got in trouble but nowadays it seems like even a minor swat on the butt is abusive. I read an article about how a young girl got her phone taken away as punishment and the dad ended up having child protective services or the cops called on him.

>>112585
I think so. Physical discipline in the past used to be quite abusive/borderline abusive so I guess at some point Gen X parents started moving away from that and some people took it as "any and all forms, even swats, are abusive". However, I have no idea how taking a phone away warrants getting CPS called on you.

>>112596
I believe it was the cops iirc but the point still stands that it was in no way wrong. Probably one of the dumbest things I've heard of honestly. I'm pretty sure a lot of kids lost privileges and items temporarily as punishment and they wouldn't call it abusive. a I can see how some stuff could be counted as abuse like a spanking leaves serious bruises or whatever but a tiny swat wouldn't hurt.

Sometimes I laugh when I hear really old people say "If I had done that when I was a kid I would've got a good whoopin'!". One one end I'm glad we don't get brutal beatings for misbehavior anymore but on the other I think that sometimes discipline requires more than "Now that's bad junior don't do that".

On a different note, are there any farmers who went to school in the 80's or 90's? I'm interested in knowing if it was any better than today or something else.

>>112583
i'm pretty sure that most millenials, so most of us, have gen x parents

>>112519
I miss the old Beavis and Butthead era of MTV. I was just looking for a striped sweater like the kind you see on Stranger Things and I ran into an article where this crazy bitch is PC-baiting and trying really hard to get offended by everything in the show, including but not limited to Nancy Wheeeler's bra.

>>112853
The article was on MTV's website, if that wasn't clear

>>112853
Found it.
http://www.mtv.com/news/2910711/what-in-gods-name-is-nancy-wearing-on-stranger-things/
The author doesn't seem offended, just unnecessarily snarky and judgmental about Nancy's outfits being kinda conservative/cutesy. They have an annoying writing style, to be sure. What bothers me the most is the "where to get" section is all links to overpriced things.

>>112493
Kind of laughing that he got posted here. He is a bit of a snowflake himself.

>>112856
Sounds to me like the author really needed a paycheck and this is the best she could do. Nancy Wheeler had cute clothes imo.

Millenial here. I can't stand when the generation before us criticize us for being lazy, spoiled, entitled when we are the one generation who even though we have qualifications, we are not guaranteed to have jobs. The generation who will struggle way more than the other to own a house. The one who has every ecological problems the other generations never bothered to care about. We are being criticized by a generation that will act like cunts when they're asked to wait for something, etc. A generation who willingly consume advertisements and are the one still falling for it. I feel like we are way more aware for our world than they are.

Millenial, raised by the Internet. Like the other millenials ITT, I don't enjoy being called lazy by baby boomers. Gen X seems like the comfiest generation. I wish I was old enough to experience the MySpace era in it's full glory.

>>112977
How old is old enough for that?

>>112987
>>112977
I wondered this too. I was born in '90 yet I was around for and fully remember the MySpace 'era'. I'm definitely not a Generation X kid.