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cmon don’t be shy
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>>1075203I never learned darija, my mother was told by teachers in m
primary school that knowing two languages would confuse me so she never taught me because she believed them. It was probably just a pretext to make the rare north african kids more "assimilated", they always punished the kids who were speaking darija together during recess for some reason.
No. 1075274
>>1075195i would to be honest. muslims in my city are A LOT more lenient than in probably any other, but i wouldnt know since i dont really go out and socialize. the point is males my age dont strut out in beards preaching islam and sexism they just believe in god and thats about as far as their islam goes, at least in my experience ( which is just middle to highschool since im only 18. sure there was sexism obviously but it wasnt any different than say atheist american sexism ). my area has lots of muslim metalheads even kek
i dont think my parents would happily let me marry a man that wasnt a muslim and there is no way i could convince somebody to convert for me.
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>>1075195I'd never want to date any religious guy ever, but especially not a muslim guy. They're the type who treat you like a queen at first and then they want you to become another person because they want you to look good in front of his parents. I don't want to wait until marriage to have sex either, but they have weird double standards so it's ok if they act like what
>>1075301 described but don't you dare eat during ramadan. I see myself as an atheist so whatever.
And all the north african muslim guys I know are the worst kind of weebs, no way I'm letting a narutard come anywhere near me willingly. No. 1075441
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>>1075397okay, I've only known a few cases of a white guy who was willing to convert to Islam for a MENA girl but they were usually well received by the community, In practice they just grow out their beards and with the beard they instantly get recognized/identified as being Muslim in society
Its funny with the beards they end up looking like tall Kaybles
No. 1075450
>>1075195Algerian anon here. Never. Mainly because I'm gay kek
>>1075274We also have a lot of "Moderate" Muslim young men where I'm from, especially in larger cities. But from what I've experienced, they're a lot more conservative than they appear at surface level. They're all homophobic af for one, and they're much more misogynistic than your average scrote
I've had a conversation with one who thought that a woman hiding the fact that she got raped from her husband is terrible because her virginity is the most important thing in marriage to most men They're also timebombs like
>>1075301 said. They become much more religious as time goes on and fear of death and "the day of reckoning" dawns on them
No. 1119502
>>1119495Makes sense. My mother told me she hated learning classic Arabic at school even if it was useful because it's too different from Darija.
>>1119498So that's the same as Morocco when it comes to official documents and some fiels like STEM and medicine? I'm not surprised since it's an indirect consequence of colonialism.
>cause fuck France or smth. TThat reminded me of my parents visiting Algeria and going to Kabylie because my father's family being Kabyle and when my mother talked to one of the locals in Darija she was told to either talk in French, in Amazigh, or to fuck off, kek
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>>1075195At this point I would rather marry a Muslim (moderate obviously, I don't want to be with an extremist) since it feels like all the ex-Muslim men I know run around identifying as queer or love to live very self-destructive life styles and get
triggered if you tell them "maybe you shouldn't drink alcohol everyday"
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>>1139027Seethe and cope, at least I don't shit my pants in fear and stress just because I'm eating three meals a day and not ruining my sleep schedule during ramadan.
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>>1139107Probably because it's a website about gossips and Muslims are the biggest gossip hens on earth, which is encouraged by their shit religion. I've had so many North African, Muslim classmates, coworkers and family friends trying to get in my business just because we're from the same ethnic group and trying to give me unsolicited advice and lessons about how I should act, think and feel just because of "our" culture, etc. Then they gossip behind you back and tell everyone that you're disgusting, mentally ill, or a degenerate for thinking that women should date men before marrying them or that pregnant women and old, sick people should force themselves to fast during ramadan despite the social pressure, you know, basic opinions. These people just can't let their omnipotent, omnipresent god do his job and judge and punish so-called sinners himself, they want to judge you themselves as well and spread rumors and lies to ruin your reputation and then set you straight.
>hates pedos, males committing acts of violence and oppressing women and that's what your religion is aboutI'm hoping the Muslim anons were born and raised in the West with open-minded, understanding parents who didn't force their shit religion on their kids so they only avoid eating bacon and they receive presents during Eid. I almost fit that description but the problem is that my parents are very superstitious despite all of this and just fucked in the head so they would disown me if I decide to wear the hijab but they prevented me from going abroad or a year in an exchange program in uni like I planned for several years, which would have immensely helped me kickstart my career, because "w-what if you accidentally eat pork uwu?? and what if you
gasp """talk""" to men your age????" and since we're a big minority in France I can't truly escape that shit. I feel like the ones in North America have it easy because there less of them, so they can avoid retarded, dangerous Muslims with archaic ideas and principles.
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>>1139027tfw ur ex muslim AND white
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BUMP ILLEGAL SHIT DON'T SCROLL
No. 1150169
>>1150141Grab a dictionary, the accent is about the same.
>>1150125I’m a fatima actually.
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>my family is entrenched in pro-Sisi propaganda.
I don't blame anyone for getting sucked into it, during that era there was so much fake news and propaganda it became hard to know who to trust.
There's a class element to the tiktok girls getting arrested. A lot of upper class girls upload the same kind of stuff and never get in trouble but middle and lower class girls do. I don't they it's because they have money either it's just kind of accepted I guess? It's Egypt so it has to be wildly classist. If tiktok really did bother the authorities they would just ban it.
Honestly the youtuber getting in so much trouble with the authorities was shocking especially since the government has been trying to hard to boost tourism in Egypt even during covid. I have a feeling they were alarmed that he wanted to film the unglamorous parts of the country, it goes against the image they're trying to project. The government is kind of autistic about "cleaning up Egypt's image" without actually fixing the structural issues; see what they did to the zabaleen.
Just visit any place that isn't Cairo I guess or don't stay too long in Cairo, it's nothing but ugly bridges now kek.
>Middle Eastern Accent
Which one?
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>>1206401>“The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) went out to the musalla (prayer place) on the day of Eid al-Adha or Eid al-Fitr. He passed by the women and said, ‘O women! Give charity, for I have seen that you form the majority of the people of Hell.’ They asked, ‘Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?’ He replied, ‘You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religious commitment than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.’ The women asked, ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is deficient in our intelligence and religious commitment?’ He said, ‘Is not the testimony of two women equal to the testimony of one man?’ They said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Is it not true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her religious commitment.’” No. 1206447
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>>1206406>Women are going to hell because "deficience in intelligence">why?>Because the testimony of two women equals the tesimony of 1 manwut?
No. 1206487
>>1206401>The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women.”Sounds extremely gay to be this terrified of women just because they're women, piss be upon him.
>>1206447I can already picture it
>they're deficient in intelligence because, uuuuuuh, because I say so! there!>they're also deficient in commitment for their husbands because my 9 years old wife didn't cook my favorite dish for dinner today bawww No. 1207725
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>>1206397Since when were emotes banworthy wtf?!
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Nobody in this thread is really north african. except
>>1206598 No. 1207976
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>>1207960It IS not a big deal in the way that it is often talked about and depicted as if it was the only instance of slavery in history, especially by Americans (can't blame them since it's a core part of their history).
No. 1208007
>>1207994Yes but it has failed, that’s why I’m here. Could be worse or else I’d be on 4chan.
And yes I too just use lolcow for a female image board platform because gossiping about internet nobodies has gotten so boring. Also one last question, is france romantic like on emily in paris?
No. 1212178
Does anyone remember 8chan?
موقع قذر جدا
>>1207976>Gross men brown, helpless women whiteAh yes orientalist art, never change.
>>1207725اه مينفاش. مش بديقني لاكن رول معقدظ
>>1206598ههههههههه
انا حقا اعترض لول
I'm not sure if there's any point in writing in Arabic. I think most of the anons here are either diaspora or aren't Arab.
No. 1212359
>>1212270>scroteI called it a disgusting website
nonnie. You can throw whatever I write into google translate.
لا انا مش راجل (الحمد لله)
اصل ده ال"شان" الواحيد الكان عنده عرب
/egy/ board.
The whole website was disgusting and I have certain pictures seared into my brain. The /egy/ board or whatever it's called was very the worst. ملحدين بينشره صور الستات في الشارع أو من غير اذنهم و بسببهم كنت بجد خيفه امشي في الشارع
>>1212204Why did you separate Darija from Arabic? It's just Moroccan Arabic iirc?
>they mix letters and numbers to write in Darijaah zay el franco keda sa7? 2ah wala la2 ya
nonnie? <- Like this?
It's pretty easy but I always wondered how Moroccans deal with it because it's based on the English pronunciation of letters not French.
I believe what numbers you use would depend on what Arabic you speak but basically certain numbers are used for letters in Arabic because English doesn't have it. so 3 = ع is the easiest to remember because they look similar some people used to do 3' = غ but it's not used that much anymore at least not here. 2 = ء because they look similar و للمصريين 2 = ق because of how they pronounce ق.
5 = خ so it's why you'll see some Arabs writing 5555555
7 = ح for some reason.
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>>1212382It's not unique to Darija. You basically need to know how to speak Arabic.
https://www.arabamerica.com/a-brief-guide-to-the-arabic-chat-alphabet-arabizi/I can't find a Moroccan specific guide sorry.
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>>1212359ok because the things that i saw there when i accidentally stumbled there…..lets just say that men are disgusting vile human beings.
I find it weird whenever someone brings up that board casually especially when i see males (not here) go and bring it up casually when that site hosted vile things.
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>>1212359nayrt but yay finally somebody that speaks arabic ! i am so happy that you are here, even if we are on opposite sides of north africa
>>1212178>Does anyone remember 8chan?yeah, i never frequented /egy/ because i barely understand egyptian dialect as a moroccan zoomer. it was the same with my classmates too, but every generation before mine grew up on egyptian films and series so they understand just fine.
>ينشره صور الستات في الشارع أو من غير اذنهم و بسببهم كنت بجد خيفه امشي في الشارعwtf, thats horrific. its like you arent allowed to exist outside of your house when you live in an arabic country. i heard from an egyptian friend that sexual harrassment is crazy over there. the moroccan board on 8ch was completely dead, but there are videos of men of my country going around filming themselves groping women for a laugh on facebook, so even without the use of an imageboard it still happens.
>>1212204>they don't write in Arabic, they mix letters and numbers to write in Darija yes but also not always, there are several people that get really pissy when you use latin letters rather than arabic ones, because in public schools they learn arabic way more than french and therefore have an easier time reading arabic than latin. that and they would accuse you of sucking up to france/white people and such
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>>1213700Apologies for calling you a retard. It
triggers my autism when one seemingly goes out of their way to find something offensive.
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>>1213706Nonnie it's fine, I get why you lashed out.
I didn't call it orientalist art because it's showing slavery and I'm offended by it doing so no. I called it orientalist because IT IS orientalist. Look into the painter he's an orientalist painter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_PilnyIt's a painting by a European guy depicting the Middle East to show a very specific message that's often highly fictionalized and essentialist but he's trying to pass it off as a representation of Arabs of that time. I don't hate orientalist art I appreciate it as a product of it's time and sometimes find it useful to find clothes from that era but it's still not accurate. Reading into Edward Saiid really changes how you views these paintings. The Arabs are savages and exotic look the women are in need of saving! Look at how uncivilized the Arabs are! This is a painting made by a European for a European.
I'm not denying that Arabs had things like slave markets either but I'm just critical when it comes from Europeans.
Again I don't hate orientalist art and Edward Said's own book on the subject isn't perfect, I think some are nice and I really wish that Arabs took an interest in art outside of geometry and calligraphy while documenting their own lives.
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>>1212413I don't understand Moroccan Arabic I feel like I need a French dictionary.
I understand why people get annoyed over franco or writing zay keda ya3ny. Some are worried there's a growing trend of young Arabs not knowing how to write in Arabic, which seems a bit dramatic but a lot of private schools don't teach subjects in Arabic and students graduate with the idea of English/French > Arabic. inferiority complex is strong and the only thing that stopped is unironically the woke trend from the West.
I want to see what an anonymous imageboard for Arab women would look like /egy/ just gave me cause to believe that men shouldn't be allowed to be anonymous online. I used to cringe at Arab women's facebook groups but I really did take them for granted. I still think they're cringe.
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>>1215207I never did but half of the words are just
زبي زبي زبي كس*ك
Arab men's vocabulary is so vulgar.
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>>1215207i did, but then they range banned morocco so i cant anymore. it used to just be that i couldnt post media but now i cant post at all.
i requested somebody to make a moroccan apustaja once and he did ! but i cant find the thread anymore, and unfortunately i only had that image saved onto my computer that died of old age (kek) shortly after
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>>1215368yes multiple times, but thank you anyways for the suggestion nona ! i actually found a way around the ban earlier this year by using portable wifi/internet i bought from asia but i guess they figured me out because i stopped being able to post a few months after… i saw something about posting using data and not wifi on
forgive me for this reddit but even that seemed to not work. and the ban applies to all boards not just /int/ so i cant even post on my actual most frequented boards anymore. sad !
i have no idea how to post again and i have nobody to ask ( or post in general ) on my behalf kek
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>>1215745peep "tv" show !
from 2003/2004, it features a lolita making it the first movie to have one as a character before shimotsuma monogatari (kamikaze girls). but many people are not fans of the "story" if you can call it that, it gets repetitive and beyond that it is consistently disturbing throughout. i mostly only watched for the egl.
i embedded the full movie with subtitles if you want to give it a watch !
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>>1215429Just keep restarting the router, it always works for me when I get those IP range bans. I got one just a few days ago.
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>>1229177thank you but it still doesnt work for me… it just says the same with the ip has been blocked due to abuse. not even on 4G, and i dont even use neither orange nor maroc telecom (which apparently are banned according to some anons). i honestly dont even care about not being able to post on /int/ i am moreso upset about not being able to participate in the other boards. why is my country even banned ? i am so sad…
also i found the apu i requested last year when i was going through the archives looking for solutions or reasons as to why. kek here it is
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>>1229321Have you tried vpn? You could also ask through 4chan im sure someone has a solution
>>1221895I also heard about those groups. It’s disgusting. I hope they get exposed or punished one day.
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>>1229321Edit. I hate our current flag (and anthem).
>>1236807What made you think that? Was there an overwhelming male support towards the murderer?
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>>1245000thanks for the edit ! i love it. but omg are you moroccan ? do you mind if i ask if from the north or south ? i am from the capital so yes prissy and faggotlike demeanor. sorry im just excited, ive never met a female imageboard user from my country before
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>>1245510Could you post links/screenshots of the FB posts? I find it hard to believe that anyone would support a murderer, unless the
victim happened to be an apostate or insulted islam.
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>>1246066NTA but you shouldn't take those comments are a representation of what most people think. It's very clear that most people were outright horrified and they were shocked about the murder happening. Anyone defending it was rightly dogpiled on and told to stfu. I'm much more concerned over the reported copycat murders they didn't get as much coverage.
TI can do you one better instead of facebook posts from nobodies.
https://egyptindependent.com/al-azhar-slams-mabrouk-attias-statement-regarding-mansoura-students-murder/https://arabic.cnn.com/middle-east/article/2022/06/22/mabrouk-attia-women-maya-morsiHe was heavily criticized.
Her murderer is getting the capital punishment
https://egyptindependent.com/egyptian-criminal-court-sentences-murderer-of-naira-ashraf-to-capital-punishment/