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Shanti Devi
When Stanti was only four years old in 1930, she began recounting her past life to her parents in amazing detail. She could remember the town she lived in, just 75 miles away, all members of her family, and details about her life such as where she had hid her savings and the painful birth of her child which lead to her death. When she reveiled the name of her past life's husband to her parents when she was 9, a friend of the family sent a letter to the man, he wrote back confirming he was real and that the details Shanti described had been accurate.
The man, named Nath, agreed to send a relative to the Devi home to meet Shanti.
>In an effort to test her knowledge, the relative was brought before Devi first and introduced as her husband. Devi was not fooled and said that no, this was her husband's cousin.After meeting her husband and now ten year old son, she reportedly burst into tears. They spent several days together at the Devi home, Nath claim every answer she gave to his questions were entirely accurate. Shanti begged her parents to take her to visit her former town, promising she could lead them directly to her home and to the money she had stashed inside the house.
In 1935 Mahatma Gandhi had taken interest in the story and set up a commission to investigate. A dozen researchers joined Shanti and her parents on their visit to her former home.
>“Once getting out of the railway station… the girl was put in the front seat and our carriage went ahead of all others. Necessary precautions were taken that no pedestrians should be allowed to lead the way. The driver was instructed to follow the route indicated only by the girl, without caring as to where he went.”>Sure enough, Devi had no problem directing the group to what she claimed was her former home. Along the way, she noted various streets that hadn’t been paved earlier and buildings that weren’t there during her previous life. The driver confirmed these observations were correct.When asked about the stashed money she had mentioned, Shanti headed for the corner of an upstairs room, where the money was hidden under the floor boards. There was only an empty box, and Nath admitted that he had taken the money from the box after his wife's death. Shanti was also able to recognize her past life's parents from a crowd of over 50 people.
The commission reported that they had no rational explaination of what they had witnessed.
Shanti described her experience with the afterlife
>She claimed that at the time of her death, she felt dizzy and enveloped in a “profound darkness” before a flash of light revealed four men in yellow underwear before her.>“All the four seemed to be in their teens and their appearance and dress were very bright,” she once said while under hypnosis. “They put me in a cup and carried me.”>Devi said she saw the Hindu god Krishna showing each person a record of their good and bad activities on earth and telling them what would happen to them next.>Then, Devi said she was taken to a golden staircase from which she could see a river as “clean and pure as milk.” She said she saw souls there and they appeared like flames in lamps.
>Years later, a 1958 newspaper interview followed up with her. At the time, Shanti Devi was 32 years old and had never married. She was living a quiet, spiritual life in Delhi.>She also said she’d planned to form an organization “devoted to the idea of living our lives according to the dictates of the inner voice.”Shanti passed away in 1987 at the age of 61.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/shanti-devi No. 1034868
>>1034865Thank you! repost because the gore made me wanna delete.
i believe reincarnation is a law on earth because of how often our lives are revolved around repetition until we accomplish something. also evolution is kind of the same idea. we practice things until we are proficient in them and i think this extends out into the universe. we are born again on earth until we can heal the scars on our soul enough to leave earth.
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I’m really curious what anons think of the idea of the reincarnation death trap! I’m going to link a Reddit post (please forgive me) just because it’s the most comprehensive and well-written piece I’ve found on the subject matter.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapingPrisonPlanet/comments/pyijav/ive_researched_the_afterlife_for_nearly_10_years/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmfMy personal beliefs are a blend of this idea and what anon
>>1034868 was getting at.
I currently believe that a lot of Buddhists were correct in that life on earth is inherent suffering and enlightenment of some sort is what it takes to break out of this prison planet. I think this enlightenment comes in the form of knowing that breaking the cycle of reincarnation here is a choice.
I feel like I’m an old soul and absolutely ready to cease reincarnating after this lifetime is up. I either want to go back to source or come back to earth as a guardian angel who can help others towards enlightenment.
I know that what I’m saying sounds absolutely schizo, but I at least hope it’s interesting and provokes some thought.
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Picrel is the book that got me thinking about reincarnation, it's basically full of stories from young children like
>>1034850 this one. You can also look up Dr. Tucker on the University of Virgia's website.
Anyway I don't actually know why we're here. I do subscribe to the belief that we're here to learn and grow, though for what purpose or why we keep coming back, I just can't say. If you believe in things like spirits, there is also a lot of anecdotal evidence of people not being reincarnated immediately after death, like they linger around. That also confuses me.
No. 1034969
>>1034961>If you believe in things like spirits, there is also a lot of anecdotal evidence of people not being reincarnated immediately after death, like they linger around. That also confuses me.Me too. There’s also the common case of people interacting with dead loved ones in their dreams (sometimes with the added benefit of getting relevant foresight and warnings about events in their waking lives.)
I have no caps of this (it’s in a different language anyway,) but I read a post on the Korean side of the internet of a woman whose deceased husband visited her in her dreams fairly regularly for 2~ years. In one dream, he brought her fried chicken (her favorite food) and a pretty ring and told her he couldn’t keep visiting her after that and that he “had to go soon.” He told her how much he loved her, and after she woke up from that dream, she stopped dreaming of him from then on.
No. 1035442
>>1034969This happened to a Heaven's Gate defector who lost his girlfriend (which he considered a soulmate) in the group suicide. He kept dreaming about her until she came to say farewell. It's detailed in the HBO documentary, if anyone wants the details.
I guess it could also be explained by our subconscious letting go of the grief.
No. 1036036
>>1034994Oh thank you anon! I've actually seen this theory and this video before. But I'm also a skeptic like you. There really is a lot out there on reincarnation where people claim so much like this, that there is a higher being that is doing this all for a reason, that we come back for this or that purpose, or claim to see a detailed place people go that houses the spirit, and so on. I honestly think that's all things people make up. Maybe intentionally, maybe unintentionally. The human brain is very skilled at filling in the gaps of reality.
I don't doubt that people see different things when they die or are dying, and that they are all true in a way. But I don't think that these kinds of theories are the real truth, either. I think we can get a glimpse of truth by looking at the patterns between what religions, cultures, and people experience surrounding death, memory, and life. I think stories with very young children are a good way to study this (since they have the least memory and experience theoretically). I would be skeptical of adults claiming certain theories on why we are here (how can they know why we are here?), or what supernatural things appear as (how would they know this?). People are eager to make up things from their subjective human experience, which is the basis of all religion. Thanks for the video though anon, I've thought about it for a long time before as well.
No. 1036311
>>1034847I believe in reincarnation, and I don’t have much proof for it. The truth is, I’ve felt so… old… since being a kid. The kind of age with no memory. But a resounding feeling. I have a feeling I’ve existed before, in some way or another.
Reincarnation also allows be to have hope in the next life.
(Confession; I’ve always wanted to come back as a hype man for a hip-hop artist. I just know it’s my destiny. Lmao)
No. 1036362
>>1036350This is a lovely take, anon. Unfortunately, the majority of people in the West end up opting for the dump and pump of corpse preservation cocktails or end up in multiple plastic baggies in fancy jars that don't end up nourishing anything. We would be nourishing all the little microorganisms that hang out in our bodies and help with the decomposition process, but we sort of nuke them with preservation.
I often wonder what causes people to behave very status quo, unable to think for themselves or critically think for the most part. Maybe that has something to do with these bodies being left in a stage of stagnancy and we need all parts of us to feed back into the system to come back as complete.
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Serious question.
What do you think happens to those who commit suicide?
I have many thoughts about kms so I can start over or be at peace, but what if I get reincarnated to a new life form that is worse than my current life?
No. 1036897
>>1036873thanks for sharing,
nonnie. I had a similar experience. I shit bricks when I watched this video because it was like I knew what was going to happen from the start, because it's all stuff I've experienced too. good luck
nonnie No. 1036903
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The problem with reincarnation in most religions is that it always has some fucked up belief about how certain people deserve their fates cause they were bad people in the previous lives
Hinduism with its caste system is probably the worst example, as it lead to systemic abuse of the Dalit people for centuries
I think Sikhism had probably the best interpretation, in that all life will have suffering and you are going to be endlessly reincarnated at random until you achieve enlightenment and your soul joins God
No. 1037342
>>1036871everything has always existed & comes from the same soul source. at the top, we are all eachother & everything. an unfathomable unmeasurable number that continues on. the universe is sentient & to narrow it humans are an extension of the intelligence of earth
many religions have tried to calculate these numbers, the Jains have such a system.
essentially one incarnates with a specific life theme at the higher levels of energetic evolution.
no other person can ever truly validate the others life theme totally because it is something the individual must explore themselves & discover. many yogis state this.
to recall all experiences of life is too overwhelming for the human mind. too distracting. if we are lucky we are born remembering aspects of our recent life.
but humanity is a traumatic experience so is death. even if you meditate deeply and uncover these associated existences - all lifetimes happen simultaneously & are equal in the perception we only understand this dimension in a linear time construct.
you really can only end up with fragmentation of memories. or feelings or better yet -> you will know your past lives easiest by identifying your biggest fears, the circumstances of the first 8 years if this life, the karma of yourparents , your romantic relationships, and your career desires.
there is also the universal masculine, feminine polarity trauma we inherit by biology
as well as the past life karma of the entire human & earth ecosystem collective ( fear of annihilation)
No. 1037346
>>1036873it is indeed real. one dies in multiple realities in multiple timelines.
read a few thousand near death experiences and they describe the wheel of soul-time popping up and spurting them out in a reality nearly identical…nearly. but they retain the vivid death experience
No. 1037349
>>1036903its hard to believe some people choose to incarnate in bad situations but they do for experience as life is eternal.
also some have not evolved to understand they have the choice to rise out of karma after death so they reincarnate by default & experience alternate versions of the same prior life
also everyone has freedom of choice. they can create new karma in their new life or free themselves of it
and whos to say the one who murdered the girl, that she did not strangle him as her son in a previous life
who knows, life is wild
No. 1037429
>>1036535I like you,
nonnie. You have good vibes.
No. 1039162
Plato is a stupid gay
>Plato in Timaeus claims that men who were cowards and were lazy throughout their life shall be reborn as women
>Plato discusses this matter with more detail in Timaeus, where he states that men have a superior soul than women (42a): "Humans have a twofold nature, the superior kind should be such as would from then on be called "man". He added, once again, that men who led bad lives shall be reborn as women (42b): "And if a person lived a good life throughout the due course of his time, he would at the end return to his dwelling place in his companion star, to live a life of happiness that agreed with his character. But if he failed in this, he would be born a second time, now as a woman."
Its pretty amazing that they never caught on that the split in population of the sexes is nearly 50/50. by their own standards, exactly half of men born before them in their own exalted society were lazy cowards. And if good bois got to become stars and shitty men became women, then their own ideal citizenry would eventually become a pure sausagefest.
Reminder to not take any words seriously from male philosophers dead or alive especially pertaining to reincarnation; they are only able to navel-gaze and process existence from their own little cage, absolutely entranced by their eternal dominance hierarchy, they do not understand creation, nature, life and death; only destruction and futile attempts at domination within the material-world
No. 1039199
>>1034847>Do you believe in reincarnation or the soul?I don't know. Part of me wishes reincarnation were real, it would be nice to have a second chance at life before going to the afterlife. And part of me wishes reincarnation were not real, I wouldn't want to be reborn in a slum in Nigeria.
>Do you have memories or impressions of a past life?Nope
>What would you want to be if you were reincarnated?I'd want to be from a first world country like Japan or Germany.
No. 1202608
>>1039162Spot on, anon.
God fucking damn it, men are so fucking vile and full of themselves. I genuinely don't get how fucking stupid you have to be to spit shit like this and have so little empathy and self-awareness while being aware you are going to reincarnate. It's counter-productive but they are narrow minded, loud, and full of themselves; men are not very logical creatures, no matter how much they like to lie to themselves.
I don't think we as women as for long as we are alive can understand how fucking stupid the male train of thought is, and I mean it wholeheartedly as an esotericfag and historyfag that has been reading the spiteful shit they blast in their post-nut moments and left for posterity across the centuries. We are simply the smarter sex, even the dumb ones among us… For us it's like trying to understand how a dog thinks and views the world from his little dog mind.
I agree on one thing though, being reincarnated as a woman is pure pain and sometimes feels like some sort of trial where you are in the verge of losing your mind, we are trapped in the plane where a bunch of violent glorified apes rule just because they are favored by matter (which in prison planet is simply an evil fucking trap). If your only advantage over women is being physically strong, in the physical plane where flesh is only temporary and meant to make you suffer, (and in top of that you happen to be ruled your whole life by the few inches of flesh between your legs) you know you simply happen not to be in the right side of things. I do think men deep down know that and all these cunts who try so hard to be philosophers and get in touch with the intangible and the spiritual only to fall short and fail fucking miserably, and they take it out on women as a whole. Sad little creatures.
No. 1202623
>>1202608>have so little empathy There was literally a male here in another thread who posted a animal torture live feeding video (and if you look at the comments of those videos its mostly men enjoying watching animals be tortured including a middle aged man in the comments who says that watching those videos gives him joy after work…wtf)
Even men know that they are psychopaths, its only women who keep on defending and protecting men and going ''not all men'' like their life depends on it.
No. 1202733
>>1202608Notice how most male philosophers usually come to the conclusion that life is meaningless/empty/suffering? The un self aware ones try to project this view on women too. The self aware ones just fall short of saying "men aren't meant to be alive, and are only able to function on an animal level, only caring about things like reproduction, control, and labor."
They don't have a connection to the universe/source/god/etc and want to deny it even exists to save face.
No. 1202750
The concept of reincarnation is comforting to me. In a way it's like living forever without knowing it. It's nice to think that those who die get another chance and they're just somewhere else. Maybe a dear person or being who died is still there, still living in the same world as you, maybe just a few years younger and somewhere a little farther away.
It's also comforting because you would be getting a second chance. Imagine all the people who are sick, who died in horrible ways, who are forced to live a shitty life in an
abusive situation, they'd all be getting another chance where they will be happy.
>>1202634Maybe some of us are already from other planets like that boy claims. When I was younger I used to think that pictures of Jupiter felt like home, but that was just me being autistic kek. It would be cool though.
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>>1202991I think it's random. Maybe your death happens at the exact same time a new life is incepted and then bam you're a puppy dog.
No. 1215965
>>1202375I think about suicide
victims a lot…I think to myself, are they at peace or are they facing the consequences of ending their life short?
>>1202705The thought of this puts me on a verge of a breakdown.
No. 1216091
>>1202705I think it's because we're depressed and non mentally ill people usually need some kind of belief, even the ones that claim to be atheists/skeptical. I've overcome my suicidal tendencies but even then, something makes it impossible to keep any sort of faith, even a pick and choose type one, even when you come to love your life there is no coming back once you've stared so deep into the void. I don't/can't understand the desire to live another life or really go anywhere after death, seems like such a hassle and really just this one is good enough. Anything more than a reasonable fear of death which is required in order to be functional seems superfluous. If reincarnation or the afterlife turns out to be real I'll just cope I guess but I'd still be a little pissed off, hopefully I will be turned into a cool bug kek
I think people are bodies first. Our current thinking exists for the wellness of this body, and when you die, physical matter is all that is left, and is disassembled and reassimilated elsewhere. Mind needs matter to exist, it's a product of physical circumstances. Death is the undoing of the circumstances that your mind existed in and for, and therefore it ceases to exist when no longer required or able to. It's not good or bad, merely an occurence of nature.
Besides the belief in flesh as the inferior substance, as a prison or as an outer layer is constantly used against us as a tool of manipulation and in this context, believing in anything above or beyond our current existence leaves you wide open for predation and isn't worth it if you don't have a crippling need that only faith can fulfill that would be a more dangerous weak point if left unattended. For example there are a lot of atheists who are in it for the edge but can't actually handle it, who would objectively benefit from being spiritual or even religious but instead they insist and become annoying nihilists that cope by being as much of a nuisance as they can be and terminal consumerism.
Also I think it would be really funny if it turned out that we actually dream of all of our past lives as a fetus and are influenced by this dream our entire lives once born.