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Previous thread: >>90306
Arguments in favor of Jin's flat head : https://twitter.com/bangtansunnydan/status/1031165709823422464?s=20
jin flat head compilation
(btw with stans like that do you even need antis)
Arguments against : https://twitter.com/jhobi94/status/643837590651695104?s=20
jin wet hair compilation
everyone agrees on : shitty fucking jawline for a guy with max 12% bodyfat
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what part of that is supposed to be an appreciation thread
? that's straight up slander
watch them clear twitter searches now with>jin beautiful>jin cute>jin sweetie>jin nice
because people will start searching "jin flathead"such a shame because in some pictures he's genuinely good looking
It's very undefined imo. I prefer dudes with strong jawlines. I will always command Jin for not going the surgery route and looking his age, one of the few idols to do that.>>93258
I think the extreme flatheadedness we see in the other pics would be visible even on damp/wet hair. The most logical explanation is that his head is slightly on the flatter side, which can be completely hidden with good styling and badly increased with bad styling.
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V has a flat head too. Not as flat as Jin's but you can see they've had to cut his hair into a thick wedge at the back to try and disguise it.
kek anon has delivered. evidence be compelling. jin confirmed flathead. top kek at V exposing him. bitch move but hilarious nonetheless.
jin's face has always confused me. how can one look so chubby yet skinny at the same time? i also doubt he's had surgery. just a tragic facial bone structure.
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looking his age??????? this was last week. Boy looks 14.
I guess it depends on the photo. He usually looks like this https://twitter.com/fleuradise/status/1221596711195308032/photo/2
which imo is way diff than the pedo/inhuman face of most idols, and that's commandable I guess
hahahaha. legit looks like in grade school in this photo. >>93273
hey let's not go there. his parents probably love him. maybe flatheadedness runs in the family? >>93263
idk about flathead but his side profile is so overrated. ppl use the most flattering angles and shots to prove he's some visual god when really he's nothing special.>>93259
looks super bloated as per usual. also not nitpicking it's kinda obvious. he's never had the bone structure to adequately frame his face. in fact the other day, one of my friends said he always looks like he has a riceball or two shoved in his mouth
kek. i recall his bro was a worse looking yet taller version of him. >>93288
most idols have big heads. actors happen to be more proportionate. jin gets praised for his broad shoulders when likely this is attributed to his pinhead making the shoulders look broad
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Has anyone seen the news about JYPE pressing charges against sasaengs who have been following Day6 and likely are making the anxiety hiatuses worse?
I know anons like to sperg on here that some idols feed the delusion and kind of "need to expect" to be followed because of how they interact with fans, but I think Day6 is more of a traditional band and less "boyfriend idol"…
Either way it's fucking creepy these dudes are trying to take a break and already have issues and fans are following them around to the convenience store/cafes and making it worse
(Also can we please move on from the Jin flathead nitpicking please)
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That's so photoshopped though. Don't post twitter links ppl, post images. They blurred the fuck out of him.
it's not even a jinfag it's a retardfag stirring shit up, obviously the samefag as >>93264
and the ensuing comments
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Of course you fucking are. Fillers and preventative botox. Top fucking kek
The sheer amount of sasaengs there are is amazing to me. I always thought a major celeb would have like one stalker occasionally but there are thousands of sasaengs for these idol groups.
It would be interesting to be able to see some of the milk they have tho.
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i feel like out of all the big companies JYP probably handles it the best they can, they don't do much but they're better than SM which does absolutely jack shit kek
I know they apparently did file an official restraining order against Nayeon's stalker when he was in Korea, but it was withdrawn once he left the country…I hope they're keeping tabs on him because the dude is actually deranged and on a different level from normal pig sasaengs
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Finally figured out what this Felix look reminds me of.
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im the same anon who talked about sasaengs in the previous thread, there are huge circles in both the chinese and korean sasaeng groups that circulate milk
unfortunately us sad gossip hungry muggles will never get access to the true milky circles because they're pretty elitist and get off on knowing secrets that the gp doesnt know
im sure its scary for idols because theres so much dirt on them that could be revealed if they pissed off a big fansite/sasaeng group kek
I remember Changmin's taxi incident was revealed after a sasaeng got mad at him, they had buried it for a long time before that
Related pic: more crazy nayeon stalker
you bitches sort this out on discord already
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he's starting to look like chungha..its so sad because he used to be cute>>93308
im sure theyre not legally allowed to force idols to get surgery, but its probably heavily "recommended" and the entire industry is so lookist-heavy that idols probably feel internal pressure to get work done
i think the chances of any idol who's been in the industry for more than 2-3 years being completely natural (no fillers, no surgery, etc) is extremely slim to none
and im in your boat, i know i shouldnt judge because of the pressure and overall shittiness of the industry, but we're all petty and judge celebrities kek>>93319
how is posting two pictures that have been publicly available "giving him attention" lol…if youre gonna lose your shit lose your shit at the people on twitter directly interacting and goading him on, or news sites who keep posting about this
to say he isnt dangerous is stupid, he literally managed to get on a flight with the twice girls and has the money to pay off sasaengs
none of us want to see them get hurt, i was just pointing out how deranged the guy was because we were on the topic of sasaengs
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Chungha is a travesty, but I dunno if felix is on her level yet. I thought he just had the jaw shave?
Pic from her very-very-very for reference
Visual-wise her best era imo
i loved how she looked in p101, i thought she was so fresh and gorgeous, like a younger cuter hyuna
her bang bang performance will forever be iconic to me, she has such great stage presence
im really sad she keeps messing with her face, she's going to end up like bom. people are saying its all filler so itll eventually dissolve if she doesnt keep pumping them in, but im sure there's side effects to inflating your face like that
just because i said she looks like hyuna doesnt mean im a newfag lol
i said she looks like hyuna because she has the same mildly tanned look and killer stage presence….whats wrong with being honest lol
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what is there even to be narcissistic about kek theyre just riding on the coattails of bts's luck, and they cant even fucking beat nct on a music show despite the ratmy backing
i highly doubt theyll be even a fraction as successful as bts, but theyre still probably raking in the cash despite being untalented
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KARD BM has never been the type that struck me as particularly intelligent but he's gotten himself into a bit of a shithole because of this instagram story he posted lol
Like….i get the sentiment? But people are jumping on him for being a "blue lives matter" apologist which i think is honestly a bit far but yikes, he shouldve just kept his mouth shut
Why do these idols insist on trying to be woke lol just admit youre a glorified insta thot, post ur shirtless tiktok dances and go lmfao
samefag, here's his "clarification video"
this dude literally sounds dumb, he is such a typical LA fuckboy meathead lol
everyone was chill until someone brought up jin's flat head and the botox/filler ratmy showed up lol>>93358
i dont think he was intending to defend police brutality or whatever twitter has taken and ran with and i agree, his heart was in the right place
he just seems rather dim and probably didnt think about how mentioning "bless officers" in a post about police brutality would look, regardless of intent
thankfully kard is relatively nugu so this will blow over quickly. besides, he's basically a tiktok/instagram influencer at this point kek
It would still be chill if people followed the rules and stopped blogging about fillers, using emojis and taking bait>>93361
Stop blogging. You're anonymous here. Nobody fucking cares about your fillers
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Filler-chan reading this thread
nta but that's obviously not bait>>93368>>93369
don't bother replying anymore it's pointless
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Can someone explain what's so special about BTS Festa? My entire TL is filled with people sperging about it and I don't even follow that many ratmys…
From what I understand it's just BTS's annual jerk off fest about their anniversary, but do they actually release coherent content?
They usually release songs, a "radio show" all by themselves cause BH doesn't want them out of their closed off ecosystem, bangtan bombs.
It's not really different than the usual bullshit but very fast-paced release schedule to keep army ~~well-fed~~ (is that still used ? used to make me puke when I was a bts fan)
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Imagine selling this much as an 9 member idol group.
this is 33 copies? there isnt a measure of thousands or some other abbreviation?
if so that is a big yikes, they might as well disband but the company's definitely suffered a huge loss on this, 9 members and pretty much zero sales
theyre under brave entertainment, so definitely a huge nugu group (they were the label samuel was signed under before he left)
i want to say maybe that number is in the thousands? 33 individuals copies means like…the members each bought one and maybe their parents and some friends did too, but i wouldnt be too surprised if that was indeed true
also can we just collectively agree to ignore and report filler chan and the other anon baiting her this is getting old
Yup,they only sold 33 first day.
I just found out about them yesterday.One of the members has to hide his face in the new MV because hes considered ugly,its fucked up.
And the company is bad at promoting them too.They just make them do a bunch of dance covers.
Samefagging but how is it possible if they have 200k views on 1theK : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ7X5SrSuoc
this is honestly pathetic(this is an imageboard)
i totally get doing it if you get into a big3 company, but a nugu company makes zero sense to me
even shitty nontalented idols like johnny rake in huge amounts of money just because they ride the SM train, i can totally see giving up your youth to get into that, but slicing up your face and starving yourself to debut in some random group? why lol, theyre better off just being BJs or instagram influencers kek
i highly doubt the figures are true. if they are then it's an abbreviation. like 33k as other anons have pointed out. 33 sales is just impossible in this day and age…>>93407
true. were I in their position, i'd rather start with the social media route, particularly tiktok/ig/twitch. at least that way it doesn't cost an arm and leg, and you have agency over yourself…
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sehun totally lucked out, the dude literally made it because some sm casting hag followed him around because she thought he was hot kek
i imagine being street casted by SM is essentially a golden ticket at this point, all their "visuals" are basically useless, and just ride the fame of their band members
granted the visual role is important short term for an idol group, just because they bring in thirsty fangirls, but it must be nice to just know you'll probably debut and be set because youre hot kek
pic related: sehun was fucking 13 here, imagine running away from some older lady insisting you join her company for 30 minutes because she thinks you're hot…its kind of gross but im sure he doesnt regret it now kek
apparently. being born into wealth is the greatest gift of all. >>93423
it seems a double standard for jin's visuals to be famous in korea. he really doesn't fit their ideals closely enough especially when eun woo is considered close to the korean ideal. idk… he just looks so odd to me. and i'm used to seeing human beings of various backgrounds having grown up in a multicultural society…
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1thek views always seemed kind of inflated to me. the channel has like 20 million subscribers so 200k still seems really low. but it's so hard to tell real view counts with all the ad boosted videos.
a total of 200 odd copies after a week, big yikes (and they outsold another nugu group)
nugu kpop groups have it hard, how are they still operating with how little revenue they bring in and how much they probably spend training these idols?
the tragic thing is that since saesangs bring in lots of money and general publicity (fancams/ airport pics etc.) SM will avoid action as long as humanly possible. People make fun of this incident in the comments (rightly so this man was an idiot) but it puts into perspective how far gone some of them are. He really thought he could get away with this because he was that
most kfans like bts for self inserts; since jhope is too ugly to be boyfriend material and they can’t pretend to be jhope (e.g. the blue haired bitches who want to be jimin), he’s not popular. plus he’s kind of annoying. he’d definitely be more popular than rm if kmusicandblackwomen-type stans didn’t like him >>93434
pretty sure most nugus are pimped out on paid dates to the few fans they have and that’s how they make money. >>93448
the standard is small lips but koreans also like puffy, doll-like lips as well.
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thats probably why they find oh my girl yooa cute, she has the tiny face "doll look" and now she's inflated her lips so she actually looks like a doll
i guess idols are heavy handed with the filler because it can be reversed? its still unnecessary 90% of the time, but people are also saying they abuse fillers to cover sunken faces from all the crazy dieting they do
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i remember he had popularity when he first debuted because people thought he looked like mblaq lee joon
i guess i can kind of see it? although they dont look anything near similar anymore which is tragic because lee joon is pretty hot and jhope just looks odd now
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I'm not saying I think the fillers are good, but I am impressed how they managed to create this lip shape.
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They look good but they’re not natural
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Makeup doesn’t do this lmao
One comment was made about yooa's lips please stop the back and forth who cares.>>93468
I don't even know who they are. Try DMing a saesang if they have any
smaller nugu groups wont have tea or milk unless you really dig lol
99% of this board is just nctfags and undercover ratmys anyways
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is right. It’s makeup, she bought a kylie lip kit.
Surprised there aren't many EXO-Ls, they used to be a horrible fandom.>>93478
You know you've made it when edward interviews you /s
I do feel bad for most nugu groups. Why do companies debut them when they're more than likely to fade into obscurity soon after?
Video is a nugu song I really like, I've never bothered actually looking into the group though. They're from brave so they probably weren't that nugu
i feel like a lot of exo-l's either grew out of kpop completely or migrated to nct and seventeen, i know a good number of exo fans who spend most of their energy now sperging over nct and seventeen (and obviously exo member solo releases)
i dont know if anyone remembers x-5 from like 2013, but they were from a nugu company that later toppled because of sexual harrassment by trainees and managers/executives
i remember when they debuted they were touted as "the tallest kpop group" and i was hoping they'd make it big but they disbanded
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i honestly have no idea, but nct dream's entire concept was to be pedobait and attract hags
and i totally get what you mean by fans treating their idols as uwubabies, its so unsettling because these are grown men and fans are sperging over them doing normal adult things
i remember doyoung kind of got annoyed on vlive because he mentioned he was watching a tv drama that was 19+ and fans were sperging about how it was mature and he snapped saying he was 25 lol
it definitely plays a part, but a good amount of exo-ls have just diverted their attention and more importantly money to the new group of SM twinks
if SM ever releases a nct-separate boy group im sure a large number of nctfags will also migrate
although it seems the rumors of korean dream splitting off to be a new group may be true, along with chinaline moving to wayv kek
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i always find it refreshing when idols dont feed the "bubu narrative" that fans like to push on them, or just call out fans being annoying in general
another favorite of mine is jackson from got7 getting super fucking annoyed at fans spamming "say hi to X country" on vlive and just calling them outhttps://mobile.twitter.com/yuyukiiiii/status/721559218109558785
doyoung's always been good about trying to draw a more coherent line between idols and fans and not feeding the delulu like some of his bandmates, i think he also straight up called out a sasaeng earlier this month for calling him during vlive, and openly glaring at them when they take pictures
is the person who's talking to him sending these screenshots to JYPE? if not for some type of legal "proof", i don't see any other benefit to bugging him bc he's a ticking time bomb at this point.>>93489
i don't think a demo exists, the best 'sexy deep voice' cover i found was a spanish cover LMFAO. maybe harass a nugu idol into covering it? or spamming a request to an idol who likes to do covers like youngk.
i agree that singularity is a good song but i also like the weeknd, so if you wanna listen to some r&b that sounds similar, look into his old old stuff.
i mean the great majority of kpop fans are normal fucking people, its just that delulus and oppapologists are the loudest on social media and make the most fuss
SM artists have always attracted the worst sasaengs (most rookies have sasaengs and even fansites in some cases pre-debut) and EXO was no exception
I think it was because the backlash only started after debut (because who would know anything about them predebut), and I guess it was unexpected.
I wonder how much backlash he actually got though, considering how nugu they are, and the only sources I can find are some tweets and an allkpop article, but his company clearly doesnt want to take any risks. >>93524
Im surprised too, since Seventeen are pretty big, there has to be insanity somewhere.
Also does Seventeen actually get along that well with each other? Their fans always say they have a really close bond, but with 13 members that just seems impossible. Am I just being cynical?
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so i dont know much about seventeen since i dont find them interesting, but just googling "carats problematic
" pulls up a whole bunch of articles
it seems that as a whole they're pretty calm, but the fandom also seems to pride itself on being "unproblematic" so any behavior deemed problematic
is immediately squashed
here's the reddit post i found, i dont know how true or exaggerated this is https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularkpopopinions/comments/cgg8vj/carats/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body
even on twitter theres entire accounts dedicated to calling out fans they deem "problematic
" and distributing blocklists
if anything i feel theyre probably generally quiet and try not to pick fights like ratmy/nctfags, but to say they're a "unproblematic fandom" is a reach lol
If you're into that type of music you might like this guy's stuff>>93516
I would love to hear Jaehyun cover it since he's a baritone that can actually sing
i wish JJY wasn't such a piece of absolute human garbage because he had such a gorgeous deep singing voice
what a fucking waste of talent, not to mention he got off easy too. i wonder if he's going to try and yoochun his way back to the industry, but hes too nugu for that
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They never had a chance after the scandal. Sad because they were tall and attractive guys who had probably practiced for years, yet some scummy higher-ups fucked their career over. Apparently some of the members joined another group but I only have limited info. The pic is their hottest member (Ghun) who was a Taecyeon lookalike and had a ripped bod, what a waste.
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Seventeen is the only group I'm mildly interesting in because I actually find them to be good performers and relatively talented for a kpop group (Hoshi's choreos were fun af, kinda sad they don't do the whole musical-like performances anymore), but I fucking hate how the fandom tries to parade them as "unproblematic", I mean Mingyu just got caught being a dumbass, wonwoo was a fucking asshole who said horrible things about SNSD (granted, he was an edgy teenager but still) and I'm 100% more will come out later because with 13 members there is bound to be some extra tea. They seem to get along just fine, imo Woozi is probably the least close to the members but he strikes me as an introvert so who knows. The Chinese line can barely speak Korean so they usually keep to themselves, I'm calling it those two will be the first ones to go.
yeah, i think three of the members joined another nugu group that ended up failing and ghun went to the military
last i heard he was a small time model, but i cant find anything. its such a shame, he was really attractive and they honestly weren't terrible performers
do any old 2ne1 fans wanna talk about blackpink? specifically their fans sounding exactly like blackjacks back in the day but even worse somehow.
i swear being a blink is like 20% saying how the girls are ~goals~ and then 70% sperging about the girls being mistreated by yg. blinks: could you all please have channeled that energy onto the first girl group that yg ruined and based blackpink off of? i get that probably a lot if not most of their fans are new to kpop or yg girl groups (bc what kind of human would want to go through the pain of being a blackjack all over again), but honestly imo bp doesn't even have it that bad. i'm not going to lie an say that they are mismanaged but bp were fully aware prior to debuting as to how 2ne1 was treated by yg and yet chose to debut anyway.
maybe bp thought that they'd be treated differently because they're prettier but the shelving is absolutely the same management as 2ne1, without yg telling them they're ugly all the time, of course.
basically blinks need to fucking get over it and stop acting like their girls are so underutilized and mismanaged. and also realize that the shitty management is absolutely never going to change, so either jump ship now or accept it and stop complaining.>>93553> group debuted in 2015, has been promoting for nearly 5 years in korea> majority of members are korean> chinese members probably trained for years before that> chinese members still "barely speak korean"
am i getting this?
You make it sound like complaining about YG is a full time commitment. For most blinks, it’s just a tweet here and there or a conversation filler. I don’t get why they need to stop or why it’s a big deal.
As for the girls themselves, they probably didn’t think they would go through the same shit. We all noticed the pattern of YG mismanaging girl groups because it happened to Blackpink too. From the POV of starstruck trainees, it’s just one group unfortunately ending out of many others that are perfectly fine.
It's because Koreans and Chinese somehow think he's the pinnacle of beauty…
I'm an exofag and I've always lowkey hated him. Chanyeol, Kai and him were so shitty in the beginning but thanks to loads of vocal lessons the other two improved enough to cover for the members who are currently enlisted, meanwhile Sehun still isn't able to do more than saying a line. He can't sing, can't rap, he only talks. His dancing is totally overrated, very stiff, other members like Xiumin and Baekhyun are much better (additionally to being able to sing) but because he's so popular he get's dance solos. He's like a robot or like V, the others are always fussing over him, babying him, calling him cute (despite him looking like the oldest) and he just sits there, looking cold af, doing nothing, always the same indifferent facial expression. His body is massively overrated too, being skinny and having wide shoulders isn't a feat, Chanyeol and Kai are just as tall, also have good proportions and
they work out. He looks like a dorito on chopsticks. Maybe it wouldn't be that big of a deal if he wasn't in a group with such good vocalists, but in Exo he's really useless.
I at least respect the fact that Sehun's fans are not delusional enough to ask for a fucking solo, or even for more lines. Like, as long as he gest one "that's right, my type" moment, they seem content.
NCTfags who stan filler members are constantly complaining about lines and solos. Same with Twice. Like, how are you gonna give any of the members other than maybe Jihyo or Nayeon a solo, when they can barely hold a tune?
The delusion is real.
I'd love to give him the benefit of the doubt but not once since debut he's shows any sort of remorse for his lack of talent.
Maybe saying he's cold (or like V) is a bit too much, at least he doesn't seem to resent the job or the others but he's definitely comfortable just doing nothing and raking in money.>>93593
While it's mostly in the form of jokes, they do indeed complain. Maybe not so much recently because that Chanyeol and Sehun thing seemed to have placated most of his stans. This video sums it all up: everybody sings and he's standing on the side waiting for his cringy english one liner…if I was him I'd feel so embarrassed and ashamed.
I still don't get what's your problem with my assumption. And using autism here so freely to call somebody "stupid" is just disgusting.
If you don't agree, just ignore.(infighting, autism)
I love D.O's voice. Baekhyun and Chen have more range, but to me he is the second strongest vocalist in EXO after Chen. Chen has the best technique though, and the most consistent mix. But D.O has the best runs. This is his best performance, imo.
Kai sounds good here, but it would be tragic if he didn't. He's not doing much, just singing the same note.
Also, this video never fails to make me laugh. It's fantastic. Up there with the demo version of Wolf.
All I ever said is "So he does actually like older women." Where did I ever judge it as bad or good? I only concluded that it's a confirmation to it. You're the crazy one putting words I've never even wrote.
Maybe you're the one who likes to create a non-existent drama to feel like a smarty pants. I'm out of this.
god that video is so cursed. the crunchy audio and that first rap verse will never leave the recesses of my brain>>93615
wow, the pitchy chorus really got me in that christmas spirit
>>93616>man watches literally most popular drama running in korea at the time>omg he loves older women>spergs about it for 7 messages after everyone else stops caring and screeches everytime someone tells you to stop
is this filler chan on a vpn again…the way they insist theyre right seems awfully familiar >>93615
this is fucking tragic kek
The group is called co-Ed
Song is beetleborg bigbadaboom(?)
I’ve never actually listened to it outside this video, to be fair to them the girls weren’t too bad at the start
>>93608>Kai sounds good here, but it would be tragic if he didn't.
No, it wouldn't. If vocalist V get's away with sounding like he's dying and still sells millions/wins tons of awards for his "soulful" voice, then Kai's level should be enough for a mere dancer.>>93615
Lol you're mean anon, that was in 2013, they improved a lot since then. No matter how fit you are, there's a limit to sounding good while dancing, but since Tempo and Love Shot they're pretty stable, even in more intense songs.
I'm the same anon in both posts you've replied to.
V is a disaster and I never claimed otherwise. I actually said Kai sounded good there, but let's not get defensive because I'm an Exofag and I can pull receipts of him sounding awful, too.
The clip is fun, don't take it so seriously. Everyone knows they have the best vocal line of their generation.
It's just SM pushing the hell out of that ship to promote SuperM. Doesn't bother me at all.
They've been really hamming it up with the whole "Taeyong has a crush on Baekhyun" thing. To anyone who's been into k-pop for a while, it's painfully unsubtle.
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His eyes look so weird now. Why is he fucking with his face so much? His eyes were perfectly fine before.
oh my god yes, SM has been hamming up and forcing the taeyong/baekhyun ship in superm so hard and the fangirls are eating it up, theres so many delulu fujos on twitter rn insisting taeyong has a huge crush on baekhyun because of that one comment mark made about taeyong having baekhyun as his phone wallpaper…
SM is the best (worst?) when it comes to pushing ships and feeding delusional fangirls the idea that all their oppas are fucking behind the scenes
Off the top of my head, SM definitely has all of the most "famous" ships like yunjae, eunhae, jongkey, hunhan…im not surprised theyre trying to force ships in superm to try and keep the flop group going kek
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Looking like a Furby. Yikes
the worst part is theyre so fucking obvious its cringey, like its so forced sometimes and it just makes watching any content uncomfortable
the yuta mark ship that theyve been pushing lately is so fake that at times i wonder if theres just a manager straight up standing behind the camera pointing and motioning for them to "do something" because they'll just sit there and then suddenly and randomly be on top of each other
the other companies never push and force ships this hard, maybe BH but i feel that was more so out of delulu fangirls starting it and BH just feeding the ships with content, not the other way around where SM is calculating what "may work" and making these dudes try it out
can you imagine being pulled into a meeting and told "ok this comeback we're gonna try and fool these chicks into thinking you two are fucking so have at it"
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i love the account straight up calling out ratmys for false reporting and oppa defending kek
ofc the ratmys will deny deny deny even if this blows up bc "thats not what oppa meant you guys are jealous of his mixtape success"
what a fucking douche, he definitely knows what he said and doesnt give a fuck because he knows these delusional fans will protect his ego no matter what
What a fucking dumbass. People are dying, Kim. >>93652
I always wonder why they don't push ships of people who actually get along, like Taemin/Kai or Ten/Lucas, but then I wouldn't be shocked if Ten and Taemin were LGBT themselves, and SM needs straight guys for fangirls to fetishize.
im sure thats what happens lol, but i dont feel bad because these dudes are literal millionaires in their early twenties, they can pretend to slap a butt here or there or hold eye contact for a little too long so fangirls can take the clip and slow it down for their youtube ship videos
i also find it funny that SM pushed jaemin/jeno SO hard and then immediately dropped the ship the moment jaemin's dating news came out and started pushing haechan/jeno and jaemin/jisung kek
SM is so blatantly obvious sometimes and its pretty funny how fangirls eat it up despite it being so manufactured
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Ratmys accusing the account of being a blink because they reported on the Gaga collab…You can't make this shit up. >>93663
yeah, I've never heard of the pop hub before, but I hope big media picks it up. >>93661
everything related to Jaemin comes off as fake to me. That guy was legitimately puched out their fanservice factory.
its been trending on pann for over a day until the western koreaboo sites picked it up, koreans were the first to call him out
my korean isnt great but he does say something along the lines of "well because of coronavirus i had downtime and was able to finish my album"
definitely not him thanking coronavirus but also not something he should be saying so flippantly considering korea had it bad for a while, and his own bandmate got fucked for a covid-related issue literally a few weeks ago and the sensitivities are still high
same anon, i didnt translate the tone well i guess, i can totally see why koreans are annoyed at him, because he does indirectly call it a blessing but the direct korean translation is more of "silver lining" instead of a stronger "blessing"
it definitely came off as flippant and i can see why knetz are angry at him over it, and i expect him to get dragged for a bit as ratmys lose their shit trying to defend him
Somebody upthread claimed that exofags moved on to younger nct - but I've never seen such a person. Many seem to like rv, shinee, maybe snsd and suju too, but nct is completely different, they don't even really feel like a sm group. I personally don't give af about them, sperm or anything else exo has to do outside their group or solo projects. >>93649>>93650
I think it's pretty sad actually, they shouldn't have to do that anymore at this age. Gay fanservice is for rookies to get some attention, not for people who've been in the industry for a decade.
Plus taemin and kai always wanted to work together and instead of being able to enjoy that now, they each got a nct member assigned.
Baekhyun said in a live that him, taeyong and lucas slept together in a bed because they were scared… as if bitch, who tf really believes that, they were basically strangers until a short while ago.
but anon, they all love each other because they’re all part of the wonderful SM family!
how do three grown men fit onto a bed together anyways lol
i feel like sm gives them canned lines to say on lives etc. so fangirls can keep sperging clips inbetween content and keep interest up, its all so manufactured
im definitely a casual fan, but my koreaboo friends who buy albums etc. and were into exo have migrated to rv and nct, but my sample size is small. im sure a large majority of exo-ls remain loyal to exo solo/sparse group activities, but nct definitely built a bit of their initial fanbase from bored exo-ls. im sure the hardcore nctfags are probably not ex-exols but there is a casual base of exols who probably listen to some group in nct
You've got the gist right, but the bit Koreans are angry about is that he said people should try to look on the positive side, as there's so much negative news right now. And the example he gave was that because of Covid-19 he had enough downtime to put out an album.
So basically he was saying "Let's be less negative and look at the good things Covid-19 has given us! Like my album."
ah, that makes more sense, i only translated the 8 second clip some other anon linked/was linked in that tweet
honestly he should have just kept his mouth shut, and now hes just painted a target on his forehead lol
not to mention knetz already hate oppapologist ratmys, so the more they defend the bigger the backlash is
the same reason why they pushed yuta/winwin and winwin/taeil, one popular member + one backup dancer member means they might be able to bring more fujo fans to the nugu member's fanbase and also get them more attention and views
if they did a yuta/taeil pairing or something equally useless/not cared about there wouldn't be attention
granted SM seems to switch up their flavor of the month pairings every comeback so we'll see if they're going to keep pushing this, but yuta definitely has been growing his literal non existent fanbase (his fancam views are increasing considerably) this comeback because he's shoved on camera more with mark
as weird blatant as SM is with their shipping fanservice, you cant deny it works because they have the most rabid delusional fujos salivating over these manufactured moments kek
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V needs to reconsider his image change, I don't think that the majority of fans like it. Just a year ago his vlives reached up to 500 million views, competing with Jk in terms of popularity, but his last ones always only got less than 10 (that's on the level of the hyung line). Most ratmys aren't in it for the music, they're not interested in him being a mysterious or savage "artist" (read: an asshole). His younger fans can't even relate to nowadays-him anymore and his older fans also just want a cute guy who sings, dances and acts silly to distract them from their own boring or shitty life.
See picture: Isn't such a drop in interest within just half a year alarming? And it's not like the following lives did any better, always only around 6 million views.
i highly doubt the dude gives a shit about his image anymore, he doesnt even bother to act interested with group activities anymore, nor does he try to hide how over he is with most of the members on camera lol
hes beyond fucking loaded, so i really wouldnt worry about how many views he gets considering he clearly shows he doesnt give a shit
besides, he still has a dedicated fanbase that will always follow him regardless of what stupid sperg shit he does so hes fine
i honestly don't think V cares anymore. I think he is clocking in his hours and collecting his paycheck. I do agree with you that his new persona (which I suspect is closer to his real personality) is obnoxious and people probably dont like it as much as they liked his old uwu quirky shtick
also i noticed that there is 1 billion hearts on that video, that's not individual people right? like you can give more than one heart per person? even 500 million seems like a vastly inflated view count, but i dont know how vlive views work
I think this is his actual image (a tryhard art snob) and the image he used to have during debut (4D or whatever they call being a spastic dumbass) was fake. That's why a lot of ratmys are always crying about him being depressed, lol. >>93687
there you go. >>93684
but both halves of the ship have to be at least somewhat good-looking, otherwise it doesn't work. Like Winwin/Taeil. Taeil said he tried to contact Winwin recently, but that Winwin never picks up the phone, lmao. >>93673
I'm a Cassie and an EXO-L, and I've sort of gotten into NCT because of the pandemic, but I only like 5 or 6 members.
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>>93694> Taeil said he tried to contact Winwin recently, but that Winwin never picks up the phone, lmao.
look at how winwin is looking at taeil lol, i dont think theyre friends and i doubt winwin would bother talking to taeil unless it was required on camera
it was talked about in a previous thread, but it was very obvious taeil/winwin was a forced ship and winwin was not a fan lol
They'll be over when they start enlisting. No scandal is worse for kpop fans than losing relevancy. Stanning BTS is the kpop stan equivalent of supporting the Patriots or a popular sports team. It's only for bragging rights because you know they'll do well.
All fans say they'll keep supporting their oppa after enlistment, but they all end up jumping ship to fresher meat. Except for the Japanese fans, the rest will move on.
not to mention the hyung line is enlisting soon, and i would not be the least surprised if they all tried to get public service enlistment jobs, which the public fucking hates
if they did go down that route that would absolutely be the beginning of the end for them, not to mention the maknae line is the "troublesome" line and i feel like the moment they get more freedom and stop promoting in a group they'll start causing issues left and right and end up in the news >>93701
ive said a few times i can totally see V ending up like TOP, he was also super over it near the end, and has a similar weird druggie artsy persona, and had a large fanbase for his looks and supposed talent.
even then, TOP definitely has more talent than V and the public fucking hates him, so i could totally see V going down the same path and getting caught doing drugs and fucking around with young girls and posting weird "art". i honestly cant wait, i find his pretentious attitude so obnoxious and would love to see someone knock him down his high horse
I used to be an exo-l but now I only follow a couple members. Got introduced to NCT through SuperM (the things I do for Baekhyun) and sort of ended up liking WayV, cause they remind me of Exo-M (poorly planned idea, neglected by SM in comparison to their Korean counterparts, etc).
Like, they are having a comeback in a week or so, and SM hasn't even posted the news yet. Fans only know cause the album distributors fucked up and contacted the Chinese fans for pre-orders.
NCT127 and Dream get mini MVs of all the songs in their albums weeks in advance, and these guys don't get a single tweet, lol. >>93701
yeah, the difference in followers in exo is huge. Also doesn't help that Sehun and Chanyeol have the most, which says a lot about the fandom.
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Of all the people to have a kind of decent take on the stuff happening in America right now I'd never expect it to be Jay Park
Something’s definitely up with V and I doubt it’s him being over the idol life. He’s the most active member in social media and interacts with the fanbase the most, those aren’t the actions of someone tired of their job. If anything, JK who doesn’t do any social media and has no connection with the fanbase coupled with his nightlife can be argued to be more over it than V.
I think V got into a fight with some of the members or maybe the company itself.
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that's definitely it, they can barely keep V from posting weird shit (like that toe picture from a previous thread) on their company-controlled pages, let alone a full blown public instagram account
i can also see him responding to fans stupidly since he's always been rude and causing an issue, letting them have personal IG/social media accounts would be a PR nightmare (see photo where he's being mean to a fan for asking a question, can you imagine him responding to instagram spergs)
im sure they'll eventually open their own accounts, but for now bts is still "the nations top boy group" and BH is trying to cling to that for as long as possible kek
once they start declining in popularity everything will go sour very quickly and im so ready for it
lol, he's basically saying "are you esl"
except, korean not english obviously lol
Is this real? Fans probably see it as a joke but imagine how they felt getting a reply from V only to see it was an insult and
he didn't even answer
What an asshole.>>93725
I like Mark, Renjun, Jisung, Ten, Kun, Doyoung and after the scandal, I like Jaehyun better, lol. I'm ambivalent towards most of the others, and some of them I just plainly dislike.
I think they are all quite talented and don't play into the boyfriend fanservice bullshit, which I appreciate. That's why I now like Jaehyun better, cause he ruined that fake prince-like image. I think I like Kun cause he reminds me of Suho and Ten cause he reminds me of Lay.
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I have a feeling too. Both enlisting and the way both V and Jk are acting is going to bring them down. Kpop fans are fickle and very few idols have a big, loyal fanbase. I hope bts at least slows the fuck down. They just released more merch on weverse doing a fila collab.
They've been releasing merch non stop, despite not touring.
theyre not touring but BH still has to make money somehow, i wonder if they also know the end is near and theyre just trying to milk as much money as they can before it all comes crashing down
the sad thing is the ratmy fandom is so large, these dudes will still have a loyal core oppapologist fanbase that will never leave them and support them through everything
here's the video in question i believe, he is so insufferable, he doesnt even sound apologetic to anyone involved
the entire time he's just trying to be "uwucute quirky", like people are calling him asking him where he is and he responds "somewhere with nice scenery"
this is a grown ass man who cant even be responsible enough to show up to the correct place which is literally his only job
Damn, must have been some harsh scolding for a grown adult to cry. V comes off as the type to show his discontent with others as well. He definitely recently got into a fight with Jungkook, their last vlive was tense as hell. And didn’t Jungkook throw some shade at him by saying that he doesn’t put effort on stage or something?
That being said, I don’t imagine that just one strained relationship with a bandmate would change someone that much so he probably argued with a ton others, both BTS members and company staff.
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i doubt it, vkook has been "dead" for a while now, not to mention V shut down shippers in 2019 and caused a stink about it
i highly doubt these members all like each other behind the scenes, it was discussed in a previous thread but V couldn't even be bothered to show up for suga's birthday despite knowing they were going to film it
i believe so, i think rm also managed to lose his passport on the same trip
being the manager/tard wrangler for these 7 manchildren must be such a headache, im sure their staff dont get paid nearly enough to deal with their shit either
Same anon as >>93740
but I also like all the members you mentioned except for Doyoung. I actually can't stand the guy.
Taeyong: too many scandals, everything he does comes off as fake to me. His personality seems to have been preprogrammed by SM.
Jaemin: also seems fake af, but he doesn't have any talent whatsoever to back it up. He is the one that profits the most from his boyfriend fansevice, yet he is careless with his gf. He just seems genuinely dumb.
Haechan: he just annoys me. He is too much of an attention whore sometimes. He is constantly trying to do fanservice with the members, too.
Jungwoo for the same reasons as above, plus the fact that his fans think he is hilarious for some reason I can't comprehend. Him quoting that sexist/homophobic youtuber while simultaneously queer-baiting also put me off.
I don't dislike them in the sense that I actively hate on them. I just don't pay them any attention and try to avoid running into their content.
Special mention to Lucas, not because I actually dislike him, but because he has the most annoying fans that can't hype him up without putting other people down, so when I see him I get reminded of that fact.
i agree with all these points, its also funny how half of the members you listed (lucas, jungwoo, jaemin) are just filler members kek
careful though, mentioning lucas in this thread summons the one lucasfag who never lets up
Ah, there it is. I don't understand why you guys hate Ten so much though, genuinely curious. The only thing they can come for is him being ugly, which is subjective. I've run into a lot of gay lucas fans on twitter, so maybe they hate Ten because he is living the dream, lol.
A lot of them pretend to be Winwin fans too, just so they are not too obviously akgae, but when it comes to sales or popularity (the only thing they can brag about) they bash Winwin and everyone else. Predictable.
I don't want to talk about Lucas, I don't dislike him, as I said. But their fans are annoying, case in point.
i think he's definitely wayv's best rapper, but that isnt saying much when the other two rappers are hendery (who just talks to a beat) and lucas (who we've already discussed)
i do find it impressive that this was basically completely filmed, produced, and mixed by kun and yangyang, but its also kind of funny they have this much free time because SM is letting them rot in the basement
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Not the lucas thing again, please. >>93763
Anon, do you stalk the thread to see if anyone mentions Lucas? The other anon didn't even come for him, just for his fans, and you go ahead and prove the point, lol.
I fucking hate NCTfags, please go back to twitter. >>93747>>93749
I find it very hard to believe that they actually sent him to a whole other country. That is all so painfully scripted. If they did, they did it on purpose.
>>93776> I find it very hard to believe that they actually sent him to a whole other country.
I kind of do too, but I also wouldn't be surprised since the BTS managers have a ton on their plate already wrangling 7 of these manbabies all day
I am surprised the cameraman didn't point out they were going in the wrong direction/use his phone to call production or they didn't have a manager with him, but who knows
Either way they put that entire segment in because they knew fans would eat up the "omg poor baby" image V was putting out so scripted or not it hit the demographic they were targeting
I think a lot of the "shenanigans" in Bon Voyage were scripted, even back when I was watching as a fan, it seemed so forced. Something stupid always has to go wrong, one loses their luggage, another loses their passport etc. and since they're seasoned travellers I can only assume that a)they're dumb and production lets them do this for more "excitement" (they surely knew V was getting the wrong bus and chose not to intervene) or b)the members are faking.
Granted, one of them losing their passport and getting a temp one probably wasn't staged, but it still gave them a chunky amount of content to pad out the episodes. I stopped watching because it just got repetetive.
i think a lot of it was scripted/used for padding, but RM losing his passport is pretty on brand.
I honestly cannot stand him, how does a grown ass man not manage to hold onto the one document that he needs to enter a country for a short period of time on an airplane?
He also has the entire staff, both BH and airline looking for his passport on the plane in the video attached while he just stands around blinking like an idiot.
Between this and his entire "ive lost 30 pairs of airpods" fiasco im convinced he just has zero concern for his surroundings and courtesy for other people
Don't sperg, complain or pick fights. >>93782
Please don't reply to anon. >>93781
it's a very new rich attitude, imo. He has so much money that he doesn't care.
im sure ratmys like to say all sorts of shit about their "woke UN speaker king" but here's the video where he talks about losing 33 pairs of airpods
I love how ratmys are screeching "omg so rich" as if this doesnt just show gross negligence and lack of care for over consumption lol
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same anon as >>93789
, apparently ratmys think RM is "anti capitalist" because he mentioned Marxism once in a vlive as an inspiration for some lyrics kek. ironically i love his background which is just filled with unnecessary designer consumers toys which is the exact opposite of anti capitalism lmfao
I did find an article about how BTS is "anti capitalist" if anyone wants to read. it's a decently neutral take on the situation and quite interesting imohttps://medium.com/ty-but-disagree/are-bts-anti-capitalist-artists-2a42d5b3670f
ofc ratmy fans are never going to admit their oppas are anything other than woke, im sure at this point a member can be caught on tape beating a woman while shouting racial slurs and fans would somehow find a way to shield them
Lol, sorry but the convo was funny.
>Lucas' fans have to put others down to hype their fave.>Ten is ugly!>Case in point.>>93790
I don't know, if Moon Heejoon could knock up SoYul being the ugly has-been that he is, RM sure can. He's richer and younger, at least.
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i think he pushed the "genius" image for a while too, like he kept saying he has a 148 IQ and scored high on some entrance exams, but never took the "official" MENSA IQ test. fans also consider him a genius because he "taught himself english" like that's a huge accomplishment
Honestly i think its all a scam and the dude may be slightly above average, nowhere near "genius" level as he and his fans keep trying to push
Plus he's totally insufferable and like you said, immature and irresponsible lol….plus anyone who constantly talks about their IQ usually isn't that intelligent to begin with lmfao
Yeah, knock it down, anon. >>93797
to me he is cute, maybe cause I'm bi and he looks like a lesbian.
I don't really pay attention to NCT though, and reading the posts here, I'm glad I don't. Their fandom is in pace to become the next ARMY. >>93799
a lot of idols pull their IQ numers out of their asses. I remember EXID Hani had that "genius" image for a while too.
Annoying af video, posting just for the ranking.
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Lay's new album has been destroying records with the preorders, no wonder SM keeps trying to enter the chinese market
Didn't Baekhyun only get something like 750k preorders with his new album?
You would think with this kind of fanbase and revenue SM would push wayv more but I guess Lay also has the EXO branding behind him and wayv are relatively nugu
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samefag, attaching more album stats
this is absolutely insane to the point i wonder if there's something fishy going on in the background, i know lay was popular in china but i didn't think he was this popular
You are projecting, anon. I don't know what your problem is, or who the other anons are, but I'm not that sad. Not denying I like soyboys though. But good skin is a must. >>93812
exactly, wtf. You can check my IP, mods, lol. >>93810
Nah. He supposedly learned English by listening to hip hop, lol. >>93811
didn't even know Lay had a music career, I thought he had left EXO and gone into acting in China or something, lmao. Good for him.
There are admins and staff in this site. If anything, it seems like you are samefagging.
Either way, we are minimodding right now. I'm gonna stop.(multiple counts of samefagging)
God can you stop? I bet it's always the same anon who's been intoxicating the thread from the start.
Go find healthy ways to let out your frustation instead of constantly baiting and insulting everyone on an imageboard.
Anon, people are going to laugh at you if you don't learn to use this site correctly before posting. If you don't like that, leave.>>93825
I have participated in this thread before and I'm not the only one who has called out retarded levels of newfaggotry. You're on a section of a site that does not like you and voted not to even have /m/ in the first place and it's not your precious little hugbox, other users will come in and there's nothing you can do about that. We do not want small communities on our imageboard that refuse to integrate. We're not "intoxicating" (kek at the twitterfaggotry itt) your thread by telling you to at least adhere to the rules of this site if you're going to refuse to leave.
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nah, she was sperging on talk shows for a while about her high iq and also high test scores, i remember it became a controversy for a bit because she was so obnoxious about it>>93842
just ignore and report the obvious trolls/autistic spergs, everyone finds it annoying but constantly complaining about how the thread needs to be shut down is just adding to the issue
Baekhyun's new "live video" is pretty good, I think he's definitely one of the best main vocals of his generation
Apparently the rumor is they're going to release quite a few of these in the coming weeks so that'll be interesting to watch
SM's also trying to make Candy a tiktok meme like Zico's song but apparently that hasn't taken off kek>>93850>>93853
can you spergs please take this somewhere else its fucking annoying
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Irene & Seulgi's album release has been postponed to July because apparently they need "extra time to work in order to enhance the completeness of the album musically."
What the fuck does that mean? How come they announced it three days ago, and now it's musically incomplete?
. Tell me anon, what is PULL?
this is really good. i dont like his personality at all but he is incredibly talented. i feel like exo is very underrated lately (internationally mostly) especially considering how strong their vocal line is.
the theory is they wanted to make changes to the music, or something happened with production
but i agree, its fucking weird that theyve already announced preorders and everything and are suddenly delaying the entire thing
maybe its just an excuse to avoid the june girl group extravaganza lol
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i thought people had pictures of them filming their mv? but i can totally see them delaying to avoid twice/bp so refilming an mv wouldnt be too out of reach
Wow, June is going to be a busy month. So far we have WayV, Stray Kids, Seventeen, Golden Child, Twice, WJSN, Iz*one, BP, Weki Meki and possibly SuperM having a comeback, is that all ?
wow that is an actual loaded month, even if you take out the semi-nugu groups you're still left with 3-4 big names to compete with, and a RV subunit isnt exactly something that'll shatter records
my money is on them delaying to avoid the bloodbath