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>that number of replies
>seokjin's wife username
>far more interest in male idols
kpop fans are pathetic. i can't imagine someone with a social life doing this shit
this "which idol is gay/lesbian" conversation never fucking ends. when will kpoppies realize that sk is extremely homophobic, gays and lesbians are a minority of the population, if there is a lgb idol out there they will probably never come out and the chance of them having another lgb bandmate and openly dating is incredibly slim? just give it up. your oppars and unnies are never going to upload a selca
kissing and waving a rainbow flag around.
I want to reply to >>22802
from the last thread
This comment kinda makes sense tho
>The problems with this case are-
It's 2019 and the assault happened in 2010>She was already seeing the guy in 2010>Even if they weren't in a relationship, they had had consensual sexual intercourse before.>She didn't report it after it happened, didn't takk about it to anyone else>And if it wasn't rough, and she didn't go to a hospital and have a rape kit test, then that's even less evidence in her favor.
>It's very easy to make her claims seem like a smear campaign, and the guy could counter sue her for defamation, in the event that there isn't enough evidence to substantiate her claims>I'm not saying rape is okay, or that husbands can't rape their wives. I'm stating how the law in most countries work and that they are not in favor of victims of such sexual assault cases.
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And when there is a hard evidence like this they turn a blind eye just because it doesn't fit their uwu gay fantasies.
Is that Sehun and his sugar daddy?
Didn't he also take some pictures in bed with Donghae?
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Sehun's fan in denial kek>>22845
Yeah that guy hangs out with many male kpop idols. Idk how ppl dont see it as weird that he's close with them, like intimately close as seen in pictures. Especially with SM idols.
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what’s up with his eyes
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His sister is also an idol, but absolutely nugu
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i looked it up and this is what his uncle (??) said about their ethnicity. bahaism is a persian belief too so they just seem extremely mixed. there was some vid where a txt member was trying to do fanservice and he just looked confused lol. i wonder what these idols who didn't grow up in sk feel like when they get into the industry.
So, a half-white, half-asian dude who grew up in the US and lived for a short time in China, before going to Korea? How poc, how woke…
Their standards are so low, any idiot can learn a few phrases in any language, that doesn't mean anything.
I hate how the same people who praise him probably scream racism if somebody dares to say the "I have black friends"-line, but him saying a few words in arabic makes him a social justice king.
This was the SS501 member who I thought was sorta cute. Yikes, first Kim Hyun Joong and now this guy. After all of these stories I wouldn't be surprised if each male kpop group has 1 member who has tried to take advantage of a woman or flat-out raped a woman.
It's really no wonder considering how sexist and now anti-feminist Korea is that these men grow up with male privilege and feel entitled to women's bodies given their privilege.
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It's cute and all, but fuck, her face????
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the connection between bts and armycels is so deep
This sounds so lonely and friendless.
OT: Kpoppies are annoyingly obnoxious but I can't blame sea and muslim fans. If I was a girl trapped in a traditional misogynist third world country with no chance or education of moving abroad out of societal and family pressure, I would crazily fantasize about feminine fake flower boys over some fat old fuck I might be married off to.
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ratmon looks miles better than suga now, rip
it's because he wanted to look like a qt doll like other male idols but he doesn't have the bone structure for it>>22888
he got his cheekbones, jaw, and chin shaved down (last year i believe?)
looks like he got his nose done too
shame he doesn't do anything about them teeth
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you're probably right, i tried comparing it to pic related and your comment seems on point
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he got his nose done multiple times
all idols are pressured by popularity. it's the whole reason idols exist. those aren't fillers, he fully got them shaved down. they're not coming back unless he gets implants.
he used to date suran. suran had a post on her ig of a girl in a collar with a leash or something so maybe he's into that lol. other members also said he's the "heartbreaker" of the group.
I can't belive he looks lyke aunty J-hope now
i was thinking more of teenage girls in sk when typing that but that checks out. he was one of the more popular members in bts because of his tsundere looks (looking sweet but masculine at the same time) but even rm is overshadowing him who used to be completely irrelevant in sk. rm and jin getting a solo intro thing for love yourself before suga is hilarious.
remember, idols aren't just in competition with other groups but with the members in their own groups as well. groups disband and only a few have careers after.
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Jesus Christ I didnt even recognize him. Is this surgery or just reallly shopped
imo he used to be quite handsome, i can't stand the whole flowerboy schtick.
sage for fangirl
looks like photoshop but I haven't seen any pictures of his face in awhile>>22902
do you have a picture of the ig post?
Maybe she was trying to be quirky or some shit.
Did dispatch really report on that shit or did they report the rumours coming from fans? Either way, no solid proof exist atm. Get a sasaeng friend and come back.
Was that her breakout single…? Lol.
Again, weird if true. Probably not dating now.
no solid proof of idols secretly dating exist, moron. of course it's speculation. they're from a culture that has "couple rings" and couples wearing the same shirt when out together.>>22933
yes and agreed. idk who would want to date suga now looking like he does. probably some plastic instathot.
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we just know about that gangnam unnie w big tits.
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what is it about kard's somin that makes her look like an insect from space
she is so hard to look at
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Lisa's hair is horrible but at least they fucked up Jennie's as well
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did he really
So does no one give a fuck about Jin? I never hear about him compared to JK, Jimin and V which is strange considering he’s supposed to be the best looking of tue group. His voice is pretty weak and he doesn’t offer anything to the group imo but we all know how focused on looks the idol industry is, so why isn’t he as popular as the others?>>22946
How many fucking times are they going to milk that underwhelming piece of shit song. I’m sure they have plenty of people who would send in a demo for a basic song which they could just slap Teddy’s name on. The fact that they’ve been a group for like 3+ years now and probably have less than 20 songs with no full album is sad. 2NE1 released a full album with their debut and had la handful of hits within their first year, and even they got shafted with releasing stuff but managed to have some goddamn stage presence.
is it possible that he's just too grown up looking by their standards? jin is good at mcing stuff like run, but sadly flops in variety when he's just a guest (i can only remember knowing brothers at the top of my head and that wad painful to watch). also it would help him to learn how to actually pose and milk his looks>>23144
several, but he keeps ruining it. first came his spoopyness and now he's an egg
Honestly, I think they’ve just gained a lot of young fans and they latch onto the more accessible members.
Suga seems like he wants to retreat from the cameras/fans imo. Doesn’t tweet unless he has to, doesn’t engage as much online anymore. Unlike Jimin, he’s probably disturbed and annoyed by fans.
Also, you all seem to think he’s somehow not being manipulated by his shit company. Dude would do anything for music and/or money, he’s desperate. You heard Beenzino’s song haven’t you? He was offered a spot in BTS but only if he got a jaw shave and he told them to fuck off. Suga didn’t have the guts to do that. Probably thinks it’s normal to sacrifice his face for his future in music. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s weak to that type of manipulation.
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What the fuck is with Luna's neck lmfaoo.
>sir, we have you under arrest for drug use, violence against women, rape and possible other things
>but here's some tickets to our show
This sounds like some bullshit side quest in a video game.
do they really think kpop boys wearing makeup and feminine stuff does anything to the toxic
masculinity and misogyny in south korea? these self-hating western sjws are pathetic. ot but i'm not even living in a western country and you always see sjws who have always lived in the west talking shit about western society as if there is any other more accepting society to women and lgbt. literally no one cares about bts members wearing a choker other than fujo armys. these people need to go out of kpop stan twitter and take a look at the real world.
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is it just me or are solo stans somehow extra obnoxious?
>inb4 waaaah nct
i'm gonna laugh at the notion of kpop ending toxic
masculinity at least as long as flamboyant gays like heechul and jo kwon have to pretend to be straight
Personally I wasn’t being too critical of him in that way. I think he’s strong about some things and weak and impressionable about other things. Like he literally calls himself smegma in some of the lyrics he wrote (I forget which song). I’m far more critical of the much older people who clearly manipulate kids like him.
Could be entirely wrong tho, don’t know his real personality. Gotta wait a few years for some dirt to finally leak.
I don’t know where the him being bitter about rm comes from but I’d be annoyed by that smug fucker too.
They can't be the only country with large heads though. It's just that their society is particularly obsessed with narrow standards that's almost impossible for the average citizen to achieve.
Honestly, I never noticed head sizes and all that before kpop, it's so ridiculous.
Things like this make me rage…
This are the same people who end up posting those "Why I hated living in Korea"-videos some time later. I seriously wish them only the worst experiences when actually meeting some Oppas.
How ungrateful do you have to be to constantly shit on not only your country but all "westerners" (what even is this? should we call koreans "easterners" now?!), when they're just spoiled brats sitting in their comfy rooms on their new macbooks.
When k-netizens use "westerners" it's often meant in a degrading way, but of course they don't get that and use it too - but never on themselves, because they're different than all those dirty westerners around them…
Hippies had long hair since the 60s, american musicians already wore makeup and dressed very sparesly during the 70s and 80s and emo bands with guys in eyeliner and skinny jeans boomed in europe of the 2000s.
Meanwhile in Korea not too long ago they could have arrested you for being a too long haired guy (or shave you on the street) or a women with a too short skirt and in the year of 2019 students still can't have their hair dyed or wear makeup.
But yes, so woke and perfect.
Also, the average Korean dude does not wear makeup and the public generally doesn't see these male idols as manly. I've seen them actually shame them for wearing makeup.
These koreaboo's have such a completely false image of Korea it's sad.
ryeowook from the same group is 100% gay but no one ever talks about it because he’s so introverted.
heechul being as obnoxious as he is is playing his cards pretty well if he isn’t gay. at the same time, though, homosexuality is stigmatized as all hell in sk so i’m not sure how he gets away with it even if it is just an act…
The country is obviously super homophobic but I remember seeing some shows with Hong Seok-cheon and he's stated he's gay, so I don't think it's the biggest issue in the world unless you're an idol. I'm also pretty sure I've seen some dramas with gay characters.
I'm not saying that other entertainers don't have a terrible time when coming out, but I think there's a lot of stigma with idols in particular being gay? Considering they have to pander to girls, so it's clearly not the best for them to state their sexuality.
I remember seeing a Knowing Bros episode with that guy and they seemed to have a good time, they were not stoning him or something. But who knows, maybe behind scenes it wasn't as nice. He clearly has a good career as a gay man, so it's not impossible.
I figured, but it's nice to see he's at least featured on some shows and fellow comedians seem OK with him? It must had sucked so much, poor guy. I really hope SK changes, are younger generations super homophobic too?
sorry sage for Korea talk, I'll stop if not appropiate.
Jin was trained as an actor and even graduated from a good university with an acting degree (he did well too). If Bighit put him in more acting projects he'd probably do a lot better. He probably wouldn't be a huge star but he'd be better off than screeching high notes he can't reach and being in the background. But even in the acting stuff Bighit has for BTS in their trailers, videos etc the big roles go to other people, especially V and JK.
I think Jin reminds me of Got7's Mark in that even though he's the main visual he just doesn't really stand out as the other visual members. On top of that, like Jisoo of BP he's not given any opportunities to shine except his once a year MC gig. JK and RM are Bang's favorites so that shouldn't be surprising.
2NE1 often didn't have hard choreo so they didn't need to do complex steps they just needed energy and Bom and Dara gave that. Bom was kind of like the Posh spice of the group but she still served when she needed to.
BlackPink just have zero passion and they're likely out of practice. Their company, fans, the industry emphasize their looks so they likely spend more time making sure they look good on stage than actually getting their steps right….and they're all going to suffer for it in the end career-wise.
history has shown that that only works for album sales and touring. bts wants american recognition from the gp for that they need to have a hit on the Hot100 but their label doesn't do any promo and nobody takes them seriously.
Nobody will take BP seriously either but their label is promoting the shit out of them and probably have radio deals in place. Don't be surprised when you hear Kiss and Kill or whatever the fuck their song is called on your local radio station. When that happens the same armys who laugh about BTS not needing promo to get good results are going to lose their ever living minds
I feel like there are probably hundreds of videos like this.
Korea is incredibly obsessed with trends.
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kpop idols look like aliens when you put them next to ordinary people
I feel a bit bad for Jin in that he wanted to act but ended being one of the least popular members of an idol group instead. However, with BTS being as popular as they are now, Jin’s doing better as an idol than he probably ever would have as an actor. I assume it’s tought to break into acting in South Korea if it’s anything like Hollywood, although feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Jin may very well be dying on the inside from having to sing silly songs and pandee to annoying tweens, but he’s probably better off financially as a BTS member than an actor.
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Same anon you're responding to. Without the freaky colored contacts he wear sometimes, he looks pretty much the same as he did before he became an idol. He might have lost weight as well but I don't really see any notable differences in how his face as changed.
Oh what the fuck, I actually liked him.
he was rumored to be involved but then cleared along with zico and this guy (iirc).
because roy kim turned out to be involved despite initially being cleared, who’s to say the other “innocent” men won’t turn out to be involved anyway?
I hope more and more pure uwu oppas get busted seriously (for justice), fans keep hoping it won't be their biases, well let's shock them all while we're at it
Rip roy kim's career kek he's only been in the industry for 5 years
imagine the army meltdowns if a bts member turned out to be involved. (it would be rapmon, obvi.)
suddenly the entire thing would be a misunderstanding and their poor oppar was pressured and blackmailed into laughing at raped women.
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Looks like Aunty Jhope got a new nose job.
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just when i was starting to think he couldn't stoop lower than this>>23373
Album sales and touring are what makes cash in the long term though, BTS are their label's moneymakers while BP's high-budget comebacks are so costly it's probably why YG doesn't give them too many, because they don't earn enough profit to justify the high costs.
Ikon and Winner aren't as well known as BP - they only have one hit song each - but they produce their own music and make good money from touring, so they get more comebacks.
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This is what the comments say, this could just be a fangirl defending her oppa though so believe at your own risk
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i checked these pics to see what bighit is up to and all the brainlet armys were crying in comments because uwu taekook and yoonmin are sitting together. it really shows that armys truly don't give a fuck about the rest of the group lol
they just had a comeback tho, if anyone is interested. idk how much bastarz has to do with zico cause it's a subunit. >>23361
lol at all the triggered
fans in the comments like…the person literally titled the vid "or just similar", jfc.
Wow, the public really turned on him fast. The issue is not him having a sugar mummy, but rather that he was trying to break out of his contract (with the help of that older women, who supposedly offered him more money than they did). >>23401
I feel so sorry for her, people can be cruel and men very nasty to a tall, somewhat mature looking young girl. She must get disgusting comments daily. And if her agency is really already forcing her to go under the knife…
Zico and rm used to know each other from the rap scene. I've heard about it long time ago so I'm not sure.
I truly despise Zico but that guy is way more talented than ratmon in both production and rapping.
https://mobile.twitter.com/trench_21P/status/1113016012155314178>So i noticed that there was this thing on the corner which says NEWYORK 1903 and i googled it up to see if there was something huge that happened back then and guess what THE FIRST ANTI GAY RAID TOOK PLACE IN NEW YORK THAT YEAR
Omg, woke kings slay again!
Seriously, that has to be somebody who's working for bighit. Place virtue signaling hints in video - pay somebody to point them out. https://mobile.twitter.com/pradakookie/status/1113105537414070272>BTS breaking gender stereotypes by wearing accessories ‘for women’
Lurking stan twitterhttps://mobile.twitter.com/pradakookie/status/1112375022033752064
uwu our baby boy
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i am 100% sure that the straight fuckboys who are afraid to even say anything about openly supporting lgbt are going to make a pro-lgbt album.
Since this is the corrupt CEO edition, I’d just like to remind everyone of this:https://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/im-here-dropping-some-gossip-on-you.86838/
> 9.The rampant prostitution isn't going away. It's just hiding better.
I told you point 9 would be depressing.
>Back in 2009-2012, managers who worked for "sponsors" basically did their business out in the open with no repercussions. Girls were traded like playing cards, and for the right price you could get a "date" with just about any girl (or boy!) you wanted. No one was safe; even certain members of the big groups have been offered for "sale", although apparently the prices were a bit too high for most men's taste and, disturbingly enough, were often too old to be considered.>The "prime" (ugghh) age for "acquisition" (and here I am quoting directly) "appears to be idols aged 16-19 or trainees as young as 12". The bigger the agency, the heavier the price. All agencies are guilty of this. All of them. SM Trainees go for (again, I am quoting direcly) "at least 1 million won/hour, with idols costing upwards of 10 to 100 million won, of which the idol may see 10% of that". Younger idols from small agencies can go "for as little as a few thousand won for the whole night, if the agency is desperate enough".>Once "bought" (I'm going to puke), the victim basically has to do whatever the buyer wants. 95% of the time this is sex, but other men (and it's almost always men) have more… unconventional tastes. I'm going to stop there before I actually do puke.>And yes, I do have (some) names, despite them being closely guarded secrets. No, I'm not going to engage in victim-shaming and drop those names, so don't even fucking ask. Who are the buyers? No one really knows. It's believed that Korean buyers are the minority since they have a lot more to lose, but Japanese and Americans seem to be among the biggest buyers.>After several prostitution stings, the entire business went underground, and now it's believed that it mostly happens in places where the Korean government has less influence.>Rumor has it that MNet has "a large share" in this underground business.
Think about that next time you watch an episode of Idol School.
>The girls are probably way more "popular" (they usually are in crime rings like this), but there are plenty of buyers for males; in these cases, it's usually men from ultra-conservative countries, so I would imagine its the same in Korea, who are getting them.
Since delusional BTS fans are a hot topic here:>From what I've been told, there's no agency that isn't guilty of at least trying this at some point. Even international favorites like BigHit and Pledis have done this at some point (and there's some speculation that the reason Eunha and SinB left BigHit for Source is because Bang Sihyuk either tried to sell them or did sell them to some fat cats since they were going nowhere under the agency, but that's never been explicitly confirmed.
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This is what precious idols look like "off the job" Kek he was probably out all night getting drunk and fucking around
stop trying to mention Utah all the time ffs he looks the same as always >>23435>>23437
I wonder is the blatant favoritism has ever caused severe inter-band conflict (s). It's weird that it's just those three singing and not all of them. I remember a while ago armies where talking about how Jin is supposedly mistreated and was talking about how he gets barely any lines in the songs and armies were mentioning it's BTS members themselves who dictate who gets what line to sing in their songs… But why would they leave V out even though he's part of the vocal line? I'm thinking about this way to hard kek
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He was in the show Community and the The Hangover movies. You might know him because of the "Ha, gay!" meme as well as pic related.
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First off, how dare you.
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Oh shit have they no shame? Ripping off beats/lyrics from stuff that came out a decade ago/another genre is common but taking out the beat from a song that came out only 3 years before (also in the same genre) is something. So much for these "geniuz uwu producer and songwriters". I hate that bang pd calls himself "hitman bang". Checked block b's zero for conduct and their composers are zico and pop time, so no affiliation with pdogg whatsoever.
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Might as well fire the other 3 kek, stupid armys
Hitomi's already got plumpy cheeks, I wonder if they'll force her to take fillers too. The Japanese girls in IZONE mayve already had PS tho
First Yuna and now Wonyoung I feel so bad for these underage, sexualized makane girls
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Sage for irrelevance(?) but
pic related is apparently from suga’s private ig a few years ago or something and the meaning is roughy equivalent to “I’m getting a lot of pussy these days…”
Can’t find the meaning for 포로 beyond captive, captivity
More literally it means “i’m afraid i’ve been in captivity a lot these days” which sounds in line with weird Korean slang for getting some but ??
anyway it sounds legit like something he’d say because we know he’s all about that braggadocio but I wonder if it’s real…
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turns out, jennie had motion sickness all along!!1 poor baby :(
yeah, I think so too, considering that the account had less than 200 followers and followed very few people. suga probably knows more people than that, no idol can be that lame
still I’m filing this away under potential pervert
Ok I know this is seriously reaching but when I first heard I trumpets in the beginning, I couldn't help but think about Cl's mama performance.
Also it looks like "blackpink is the revolution" or whatever is gonna be their know catchphrase.
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jinwoon & kangin now involved potentially
anyone surprised at kangin? i used to be into 2pm/2am & thought jinwoon was the most attractive but it was such a boring group i dont even remember the other members other than the fag
Interesting theory lol
One guy from ss501 was also on we got married and ended up beating his gf
Suju Siwon's dog bit a women which caused her to die and he was also on we got married
And Taemin, Key and Jokwon were probably sent there to cover up that they're gay
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That shiny face tho
Lol I made this post >>23402
Some other anon made this post >>23435
Just to be clear
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wtf is going on with this woman? a year or two ago, she was one of the prettiest idols. did her anorexia catch up to her face or is she just aging like a skeleton?
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Imo she was only pretty when she was natural. Now she has an obvious plastic surgery face that's not attractive at all.
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Really? A remix of a song that's been used to death for the past year? That means only four new songs which is ridiculous.
YG giving fans yet again the bare minimum because (SEA)fans eat that shit up anyway.
Also interesting to note how Rosé and Lisa have been pushed aside again lol.
check the last 2 threads anon, ctrl + f>>23512
oh i know 2pm really well, i think it’s hilarious how theyve turned out fairly decent compared to other 2nd gen boy groups (except nichkhun? drunk driving? correct me if im wrong & theyre all shitty, i havent paid attention for a few years) reading the articles about taec on netizenbuzz are pretty hilarious compared to any other idols mentioned here.
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This is some really lazy photoshopping
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Honestly it can only improve their current setlist
>6 covers>playing dududu and stay twice>ticket prices go from 70 euros and up
l-e-l how delusional do people have to be to pay for that shit and not feel scammed
And then on top of that have subpar, messy performances.
I really wish I could get their appeal. I just find them so bland and boring - on-stage as well as off-stage.
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I never liked her but I used to think she was one of the better looking girls in snsd but she looks hideous now. She's probably addicted to plastic surgery. Everytime I see her she looks different or her face looks really tight and stiff . Every since she got her mouth corners cut her mouth looks similar to The joker and it makes her face look weird and off.
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Probably the wrong term I dunno but yeah she got the corners of her mouth extended lmao here's a before and after
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imo it's really annoying when they apply that kind of editing to mnets survival shows during the performance segments
why loop some girls hair flipping five times while cutting into the audio track? it ruins the point of your audience trying to watch the perf by constantly interrupting it.
actually fuck mnets angel/evil editing in general with reality shows, they clearly know what sells otherwise they wouldn't keep making survival shows but they're filming everything 24/7 and their editing is not only technically garbage but overall garbage, you think they'd at least find more interesting content than the storylines they often decide to go with for trainees on these survival shows- that's how the talentless ones end up in the final group, if it were any trainee from the bottom 50 with a shred of talent who got the same sob storyline as the talentless hack trainees who get them they'd probably win too lmao
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So what image is Psy's label going for at this point because honestly I dont see it amounting to anything in Korea? People already think Jessi is trash over there. And lets be real, Hyuna is as well and now that she doesnt have 4minute to back her up, she's literally just got her ~sexy image~. This is gonna be a disaster.
I hate it when a performance or something is cut just to show the fake reactions of the other contestants or the judges. It's so pointless.
Idk if it's just me but i feel like their society has a weird voyeuristic tendency. That would explain why boring, meaningless shows such as "I Live Alone" are so popular. They're literally just watching a person's day while making trivial comments.
Another example are mukbangs, ( and if we go darker: spy cams).
I know that this is probably way worse in Japan but I just found that interesting, so I'm not trying to racebait.
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eunha's eyelids disturb me
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I'm confused, what is this?
It reminds me of the start of the Wonder Girls 'I Feel You' MV lol
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anon that's like…bright bubblegum pink, not coral>>23652
i accompanied my younger sister to a bts show a few years back before they really let the fame get to them, and they sang live and had pretty good stage presence. mind you this was before any of their shitty newer songs came out so i wasn't forced to listen to jimin and jin try and screech out their "high notes". i've also seen red velvet and they were pure 100% lip synching…i don't think their mics were even on during the performance parts.
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Nta, but apparently the media also refers to the post surgery result as "looking like the joker" kek
Lol no, I'm not that anon>>23649
Having a pink album cover is definitely not equal to "fuck gender roles". How much you wanna bet they didn't even choose the color lmao.>>23668
Steer clear of those "xyz protection squad people" they are like rabid dogs and will mercilessly attack you. Overall just shitty people who don't go outside and think anything other than constant praise for x idol is like a direct personal attack to them and they'll harrass you constantly.
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Ok so this is one of the responses i found on the replies. Muslim kpopfags cant stop being crazy
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And why do the majority of people in this thread agree with her?! Has she 10 extra accounts to like her comments? Knowing kpop stans, probably yes.
Idk why this thread all of the sudden became a haven for obvious fans and solo stans who are just here to bash "rival" groups or members they hate. Some even low key try to make their idols more likable to us.
Most of us are
somewhat in touch with the kpop world because we're casual listeners , ex-fans, or we like the milk but holy shit, here are too many hardcore stans in disguise.
Take that shit to allkpop or something.
I know this has been mentioned a lot, so I'm sorry about the rant but I don't want this thread to lose its original purpose.
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i sometimes feel sad for young Muslim fangirls living in a culture and religion where all woman get treated like shit by ugly, disgusting, misogynistic, Muslim men. That's why they have to turn to kpop UWU boys because oppa is or looks non-threatening, handsome, kind and is respectful towards them. Oppa is their escapism from their reality and shitty Muslim men that are basically incels. They believe this lie that kpop is selling so much that they believe nothing and no one but oppa. I'm glad this scandal blew up, it just shows that men are trash no matter who they are or what they look like.
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Blackpink is actually charging their 2nd mini-album for $50.99, and it only has 4 songs
it is overpriced and only idiots buy it but they don't buy it for the CD y'know
they buy it so they can collects cards and shit and fap to exclusive photoshoots
Girl my exact thoughts>>23729
It is just soo bad on soo many levels. The music, singing, outfits, styling, quality, effects…..the list goes on. Well, trash music from a trash group from a trash company
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who did she hurt in yg kek
jennie’s throaty shouting is like a hundred donkey kicks to my eardrums; why does she always get like 60% of the song
we talk a lot of shit about rosé’s indie girl voice but at least she doesn’t seem tone deaf
Sounds the same as every other BP song, tbh. I would have liked the idea of the lovekilling-concept, if it would have been more elaborated, but they were to busy to shove Jennies face into the MV.
Dancewise it also looks like every other BP song.
Sad when a group never surprises or expands repertoire.
Seems more and more like a cheap try to cover up the Seungri-mess.
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Lisa looks like betty spaghetty with those braids, stick legs and all. Watch blinks NOT drag lisa for this
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i liked the idea of rose and jisoo killing off their weaker selves, even if it’s kinda fucked up as a message. unfortunately this was only a tiny sidenote since jennie has to be the center of the universe.
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the person who said that the group chat was made up of people from we got married might have been right
Why does this sound like 3 rejected 2NE1 songs mashed into one?
I really don't understand why Yg won't give Blackpink their own unique sound instead of trying to shill them as some kind of 2NE1 2.0.
I feel like with 2ne1 yg thought they're ugly so we might as well dress them weirdly; it's not like it's gonna ruin their image.
Whereas with bp, they're supposed to have a pretty, chic image so these experimental outfits are a no-no (though they sometimes do use Lisa for that), and Jennie would go apeshit on the stylist if they gave her something that doesn't make her look sexy.
>>23777>Jennie would go apeshit on the stylist if they gave her something that doesn't make her look sexy.
The fact that she gets away with acting like a spoiled ungrateful brat in a social climate that’s so extremely focused on respect and age hierarchy baffles me.
Either fire the stylist if they’re so useless or just make her suck it up.
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Found this article which says Jennie participates in choosing what outfit she wears lol
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Blackpink stans are so hilariously pathetic. They are so desperate to set youtube records because that's the only area where they can make BP actually succeed.
Imagine paying nearly 13 bucks for 1 song…>>23734
At first I thought that it's only her crazy SEA stans, but Jesus, this can't be a coincidence. If you have 1000s to shill on Gucci and Chanel, then you could have also given that girl a normal hairstyle.
Either Jennies's parents are paying or she's fucking somebody.>>23752
To me Jisoo also looks super unforgetable, but maybe that bland look appeals to kids? My little sister and all her friends constantly talk about how she's the most beautiful girl ever.>>23790
People always say that she's just got a resting bitch face, but slowly I've started to believe that this is just an excuse.
I don't mind the opening verse with Jennie and Lisa (it's not amazing but not the worst thing ever) but then it slows right down with Jisoo and Rose. Feels like they tried to jam two songs together and it's just a car crash.
Definitely not good enough to direct attention away from the scandals.
Borefest, same stuff as always. After some videos I've realized that even their choreographies are always the same - compare this to DDDD, AIIYL and even Lisa's solo stage Swalla. You will find that every single move is present in all of their choreographies at some point.
Also probably an unpopular opinion, but Jennie's voice is the only actually pleasant sounding one in BP to me
Thank you for your service anon.>>23801
That's exactly what they did and it sounds like hot garbage. The whole song is bad and blinks know it but they just can't admit it
I wonder how much of her jaw she hacked off.
Rose's acting was hilarious during this scene maybe that's what she did when Jungkook dumped her.
What else do they have? This comeback has already come on gone. It had zero impact on the American general public. Everyone is talking about John Cho as Cowboy Bebop which only reinforces that Korea's soft power is absolute trash next to Japan's. No one is going to listen to this song on the radio if they dare play it, their performance at Coachella will probably get dragged given what we've seen from the lame choreo and their concert is almost desperate to be poorly reviewed. Their album hasn't even been released. The digital is releasing almost a month from now and the physical two weeks after that so goodbye Billboard 200 results. So in lieu of this Blinks have no other recourse than to make BP break some meaningless youtube record no one will care about because those who even know about it will assume most of the views came from Indonesia.
Their American take over died before it even began the second this dropped. But Blinks fell for the mediaplay in thinking they were ever going to get out of the Kpop bubble and make an actual impact in America. Welp. Next.
Lol I thought someone would say that. Guess I deserve it though. So is it really much more horrible in japan (with these things) than it is in korea? Or are they pretty much on the same level of bad?>>23814
I like this
lol I've already seen countless blinks on twitter admit that they think the song is disappointing.
Also apparently a couple weeks ago there was an official statement from YG that It will be "much more intense than 'DDU-DU DDU-DU'." It also took FOUR choreographers kek
Yea, she's nowhere near a "beauty" especially not with her weird plastic face. They're so obsessive over pale skin it's pathetic>>23825
Especially with koreans, brand dropping is a huge thing there
Lisa reminds me of the cash me outside girlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrtSOTGNqA8
If they ever met I imagine they would have to fight to the death but neither are really about that life so I wonder how that fight would go.
bbmas nominations came out
exo and got7 got nominated for the same social award now bts fans are getting all salty because they got made fun of for it and are trying to victimize themselves lol
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newsweek even wrote an article on it lol. people are still stroking army's ego for clicks. hopefully people stop caring about these stupid social awards after this.
anon if you're gonna tinfoil about idol relationships show a vid
But yeah don't we all get the feeling that Jennie is full of herself
With an ego like hers it's probably like that. I don't know about her treating Lisa like shit tho. Only thing I've noticed is how she's all giggly and close to Lisa during concerts or whenever the camera is on.
It's almost like she wants to show the international fans that she doesn't hate Lisa or she just wants to pander to SEA fans cause it looks fake af.
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16 mio. views…wtf…
>>23736>The nominees for Top Social Artist are Exo, BTS, GOT7, Ariana and some 1D guy.
I hate Ariana and have no idea About 1D, but please, please let them win.
Imagine any the other 2 groups winning, their fandom would transfrom into Army 2.0 in terms of smugness and superiority complex.
And Korea as a whole would also take this as a sign that they're really taking over the US/the world…
exo's fandom seems dead nowadays and idk anything about got7's.
does anyone think bts will get the top group award?
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This is 1st degree stalking. They didn't even hide her friends' names. Not everyone wants to be associated with a kpop star, like you know how crazy kpopfags could get if they knew you happened to befriend jennie in mid school. Like it's not fucking relevant to them anymore. Ofc they would all have denied it. And as much as i dont like jennie but i think her friends deserve some privacy. Theres one pic that made me wonder tho, is it really jennie (the one with glasses)?
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It can't be Jennie, she has much weaker eyebrows in all old NZ photos.
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She has barely there eyebrows in every single pre-debut photo. Drawing thick insta eyebrows wasn't a thing couple of years ago.
They do. I knew about Japan’s spycam problem before I knew about Korea’s problem.
There are women only subway cars to avoid groping and filming.
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predebut Jennie was wild
I remember blinks denying this was jennie's facebook
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I never said anything…I just posted it to see what other people thought>>23876
I agree with this though
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can kpop idols stop lying about their heights?? siwon 1.83 but still looks so small beside Liam Hemsworth lol
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This could become a meme
>>23736>The nominees for Top Social Artist are Exo, BTS, GOT7, Ariana and some 1D guy
They are loading up on kpop acts in hope to raise their numbers because viewership falls year after year. Music award shows are boring and pointless, so instead of drumming up real interest they target kpop fans for EZ views? I kind of get it with BTS, plus they're probably an automatic nomination after winning last year, but are Exo and GOT7 really going to bring in a ton of viewers in the US? People might vaguely know of Exo, but afaik GOT7 is a no-name here. Of course you can vote no matter where you live though I think, so maybe they are somehow going to cash in on the inevitable kboo drama. They should just let companies pay for these spots and they would at least get BP and NCT money kek
Bring it home, Ariana and some 1D guy
>The nominees for Top Group are Maroon 5, Imagine Dragons, Panic at the Disco, Dan & Shay and fucking BTS
It is just a pity nomination like BTS' grammy nomination. They're throwing armies a bone because they always complain about wanting BTS to be taken seriously for their "deep", "inspirational" and "life saving" music and not just army views. One of the other groups will win, but armies will be satisfied anyway because their baby boys are finally considered serious artists! They were nominated for their MUSIC alongside well known groups like Maroon 5 and PATD after all!!!! And of course they remain more speshul than the other kpop boys that were invited.
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Ik kpop idols lie about their heights all the time but that one you showed was just a bad angle. Siwon is really around 1.83 unlike bts twinks (not a sujufag). Liam is 1.91 and Wu Chun (the chinese dude beside him) is 1.81.
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I saw a lot of people arguing about Lisa's box braids in the mv btw. Like how it's culture appropriation and stuff. I don't have the energy or time to include details of some ridiculous nonsense I've seen people who are defending her say lol
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How can they be out of sync even in the fucking MV? God I can't wait for tomorrow's performance. It frustrates me, you have so much fame, just practice more! They are all over the place, and the choreo looked so similar to older ones, nothing new.
companies clearly dont care anymore, honestly
it used to be you'd have one or two in a group whos "charm" was their laziness or stupidness, now its entire groups
If BTS (or anyone for that matter) paved the way to success for kpop groups in Europe/America, wouldn't there be some sort of current mainstream interest in kpop in the Europe/America? The way remains unpaved as far as I can tell. There aren't any mainstream kpop hits besides gangnam style, which also didn't really "pave the way" because there hasn't been one since. A wacky 2012 meme is the most impactful thing to come out of kpop.
Armies need to take a good look at BTS and ask themselves what they think they've actually achieved. They don't have a popular song, critical acclaim or any considerable achievements. All the time spent circlejerking on twitter alters reality I guess, because in their minds BTS are not only woke trans gay kings but also a household name in every country! BTS need to actually become successful themselves before they can cause anyone else's success. >>23895
Oh, definitely. I think this probably goes for probably all kpop acts, no normal person knows who they are despite what fans would like to think. I articulated it poorly, but I was just wondering if GOT7 had a substantial amount of existing fans in the US that could make having them on the show worthwhile.
I'll be honest and say I like their MVs usually, but the members outside of the MVs are really lackluster. Makes you realize that they are good models but not good performers.
I did enjoy Lisa and Jennie's parts, especially their "duo". Jisoo and Rosé feel really unnecessary. They should add more members or just create a duo with the rappers, although I highly doubt they like each other kek
I did a double take when I saw blinks praising this scene. It was corny as hell.
Meanwhile Jisoo, the supposed actress, showed zero emotion throughout the mv
jisoo is similar to yoona tbh
boring af but kida pretty, not really a good actress but will be forced hard just because shes a ~visual~
Literally everything she says is true, they're not deserving of being named the most beautiful in the world, they look feminine, their dyed hair looks awful and why are their lips coral? lol
Stans ignored this point she made, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to call her racist: korean men are attractive but those idol boys are not, why don't they show real good-looking korean guys?
>Big Hit will sue!1!1 >She's jealous!
That is true, anon. Sometimes I catch myself doing that (so thanks for the call-out)even though I've left kpop. But many here are legit kpop fans, or many just have spent too much time in Kpop-related communities, and it shows in their posts.
Personally, I don't like seeing posts that make fun of things that those people can't change, or the casual racist undertones in some "critical" posts. But that's lolcow for you, I guess.
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Saying that my Oppa looks ugly is homophobia
I don't know this show or these people so I don't wanna blindly defend them but are the fans illiterate or something? The lady even pointed out that she doesn't care about their sexualities; she said she finds them
specifically unattractive. but when there's no way to argue back we just pull the victim
card, I see.
I wouldn't be surprised if teddy yet again got "inspiration" from other songs. He's notorious for that.
Vid related is a song that has a similar beat to solo. I think mostly sea fans knew about this. What do you guys think?
House of Cards/Worth It
Singularity/Call out my Name
you have to be an army to see that covering song isn't a crime?
We have to wait for them to fuck up for real, nitpicking is stupid
For that block b song that was previously posted some armys online argued that both songs were sampled from "get your freak on" but the thing is, we never know whether they have bought the rights or if it's just simply stolen.
Does anyone know if you're supposed to credit the artist you sample?
But yeah kpop isn't really innovative. Here's a list of all the songs sampled by bts if you guys are interested: https://www.whosampled.com/BTS/
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this was unexpected
You have to at least get permission before you sample music. You don’t have to credit them. Crediting is more of a moral issue than a legal one, at least in the US.
It seems messy and confusing.
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This is supposed to be Felix from Stray Kids, he looks alien as fuck. Did he do something to his face? Because I remember him having a more squarish jaw. If not it's a huge weight loss, god, idols really are in a toxic
environment… it's sad as fuck. https://twitter.com/chanlix/status/1113785147189547008
I saw so many people praising Blackpink's bodies too the other day too, ugh…
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Sorry but how is this the same fucking person wtf. I don't even follow Stray Kids but I noticed the difference intermediately. How can fans not notice their bias is completely different from one comeback to the other?
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I legit thought that was yuta for a second. There was nothing wrong with his face and he just ruined it…
Why are they all so afraid of jaws lol
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This was even before that. Looked like such a normal dude
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This is the same dude?! ps is wild. You gotta take guys to doctor kim on the first date, these hoes lyin.
Probably makeup, it's not hard to hide hairline with some contouring. I know almost all idols get ps but let's not get carried away, I really doubt he had hair transplants. It's almost always photoshop or makeup before the extreme, especially when the difference is minor. I don't even know if it's jaw shave, looks like weightloss and fillers?
I really don't see why he changed his look. Don't they realize they have fans before the ps that already worship them? Same for BTS, they were always the ugly group, and have one of the biggest fandoms, why the need to change their faces to look "pretty" now?
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That seems more her lips drooping slightly because they shaved off too much supporting bone from the jaw and maybe because of anorexia. Yes, drooping happens to everyone throughout your twenties but Taeyeon started with a really nice jaw/teeth
wasn't there a day6 member and an nflying member who dated a fan and got kicked out
plus v was caught with a fansite master early when bts debuted and got chewed out by other fans
finally haechan from nct was caught talking shit about taeyong to his fansite masters who he called noonas. Who knows maybe they were suga mommas
yall really think western artists are the only ones who fuck groupies. How embarrassing
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most kpop fans are ugly as sin
well yeah. It obviously sounds like a shittier version of Hate. Also I have no idea what the hell they are going for with Lisa but they seem obsessed with making her look like a Ukrainian prostitute>>23979
I cannot listen to that line without cringing
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is that really her in the left picture?
God what is with kpop and the rap+terrible vocal method of song making? I actually don't mind the raps here and in most BP songs but then the vocals come in and it's just so jarring.
This whole song was just a mess and so incoherent. Why can't kpop producers make song that sounds like one complete piece and not a bunch of small pieces jumbled together christ
lol @ arms flailing in every direction
and Jisoo's wide-eyed look of panic when choreo picks up the pace
Jennie will skip half of these moves during concerts
They look so empty. I seriously don't understand why YG won't invest in some backup dancers like the Loona subunits do lmao.
He had a whole army to carry Jennie.
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p sure aiiyl and forever young are supposed to be pink concepts too.
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what the fuck
The devil works hard but Dr Kim works harder>>24040
That car is painfully tacky…
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disagree anon, these outfits actually look put together and not like weird mashes of whatever edgy designer pieces their stylists could find. >>24061>>24064
I hate myself for this but I actually feel bad for his dad. He seems genuine, a well respected professor and he begged his son not to go into the music industry iirc. On the other hand, can't say I feel bad for the parents of other celebs caught in this scandal. Hana Hwang's rich parents probably raised her super spoiled.
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Unpopular opinion but I seriously think they look much much better with tans. I know this is lighter than their natural colors but this still looks better than the ghost look they've given them since debut. Jennie seriously looks like the fucking Joker in AIIYL and it unnerves me. With her natural skintone she has an early Amuro vibe
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They exactly sound like that meme looool. Must've been cringey for them too.
The new marketing tactic is for these companies to randomly use kpop slang on Twitter for Youth Appeal. It comes off as cringey because I'm sure these are underpaid interns that did a quick search and are trying to imitate 'stan language'. It's like a worse form of that era where these brand social media accounts were obsessed with quirky clapbacks/millennial depression.
You can tell it's working because of how high the engagements on these tweets are. It's honestly funny to me how the "omg my fave is anti capitalist!" woke stans are engaging with this obvious marketing bait.
Chips Ahoy said Stan Loona 😍👏
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I think lisa is really pretty, but she should have her shoulders and/or neck covered in some way
Jesus, i remember when fans jokingly called her oppa way back and it was no big deal but recently whenever I see female "tomboyish" idols being called oppa every sjw jumps out and tells others to not misgender them. It's not that deep.
Many gays, especially those who do drag, call objects by "she" all the time and no one cares.
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It's Haruto from YG Treasure Box. This is the video
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I bet lots of koreans are so happy that they got "something" on this kid to prove their point that Japanese kids/trainees are no good. Especially since he has good visuals and they really like his face (jealousy)
This is not new they have done it for years, SNSD and SM were big on this.
Fans will literally be given cards at music shows for what to say and at what time. Same with cheering
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and I thought this was bad
he was just playing around with his friends and aimed the finger at /them/, not bp.
a sasaeng creep literally hacked into a minor’s ig acc and THIS is the scandal to these fucks?
If she cares enough about her image and the fans who pay for those overpriced concerts then she won't let that happen again but I feel like it's gonna start again once some time passes.
It's mostly during the concerts where she lets herself go cause it probably feels more safe.
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this is old but they really act like an egotistical cult.
omg who cares delulu fan.
guess what? your fav probably hates women and doesn't care about you
i had no idea this kid existed before now retard, anyone with half a brain and basic empathy can see the situation is fucked up.
also learn to sage.
Nah the human gucci thing is for bts' V, Jennie is the ~human Chanel~.
I feel so cringey typing this.
Honestly, a good number of idols from big companies prove that being rich/coming from an upper-class upbringing can get you to so many places regardless of merit. As said before, Jennie's family is well-off and probably had enough money/power to help catapult her career as successful idol. I mean, she probably didn't have to worry about trainee debts like other idols and probably had a leg up into entering a big three company.
It's evident that she possesses less charisma that a potted plant, is plain-looking without an idol makeover, and can't really dance, sing, or rap–yet she's out here living as a model with rabid, adoring fans that excuse her failures at being a competent entertainer/artist. Feel free to call me bitter but I feel bad for other naiive idols/trainees who likely work themselves a hundred times harder to the bone and never succeed, whereas Miss Human Chanel gets asspats regularly for existing.
I agree. Not everyone call pull off pale skin. Read somewhere that way way back before humans evolved, unnaturally pale skin used to indicate that someone was unhealthy/not fit for survival and reproduction–and yet it's now celebrated as a beauty standard in Asia kek
And holy crap, Jennie looks super plain here–like she wouldn't stand out in a crowd at all if no one knew who she was. I've seen way prettier Asian girls without makeup here on a regular basis (live in an Asian enclave). Really shows that any fucker can become an idol lauded for their looks with just enough makeup, marketing, and plastic surgery.
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Wanted to add on with another cringe-inducing reply form this guy. No doubt that he's a K-fapper.
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does anyone else remember Secret? they were a second gen girl group. their members were all healthy weights. it's sad thinking idols like them will never debut again. they'll get shamed out of the industry like pristin's kyla was.
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Jesus, how do they manage to perform and do other activities? I would faint all the time if I ate so little for sure
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If kpop made them more depressed, maybe they should do BTS
Just kidding ofchttps://www.flare.com/celebrity/k-pop-mental-health/
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Do you have proof you're right? Feel free to provide it, I'm genuinely curious.
That and their unhealthy weight yo yo's in between comebacks. Wendy's weight fluctuates in between comebacks iirc, that's terrible for her body. Lots of other gg's are the same, they look skelly during filming and promotional times and gain weight during the off-season, that's even more unhealthy than being consistently skelly.
if any of them show they aren't skelly all the time (like Krystal having seemingly gained weight in recent candids, even though she is nowhere near "fat" now, she has more weight in her thighs, god forbid) knetz fucking crucify them
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Because openly sexy girl groups were slutshamed to high heavens by the public, even as they enjoyed their songs.
"Girl crush" is just a marketing tactic to try and make girl groups dress a bit sexier to appeal to men (what the itzy girls wear makes me very uncomfortable) without alienating their main audience of young kids and girls
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Hahaha idk why the pic is censored on my phone
I can't tell whether this is a joke or real lol I'd believe both. >>24301
Well, it is sensitive content. Twitter did you a favor.
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How the hell is this gfriend's umji? I barely recognized her…
Poor girl must be insanely aware of all the hate comments, she even used to hide her face with her hair iirc.
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do they look like that or this pic is edited???
I don't know if this includes groups whose members have already been exposed by the seungri scandal.
Sj and maybe 2pm come to my mind.
I wish they'd just release everything at once.
Wanna one had that vlive incident but that probably doesn't count as a social issue.
Pretty sure the bts t shirt incident does, though
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Some fun I found on quora lads
why didn't you just link it or copy/paste it instead of posting all these caps?
oh my is this what i think it is!!!!!!!!!!!1!!
also she legit looks like jhope in this pic
Jesus is there no pleasing you people? > stop posting links post screenshots> stop posting screenshots newfag
I've been on this board for years and what the fuck is happening to this thread? It's been dead even though more information is coming out about this scandal. Anytime someone tries to post people are trying to shut each other down.
There are too many koreaboos in this thread
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Might be late to the party so apologies if this is the case. Just saw this on Crazy Days and Nights ( a reputable gossip blog) and it's speculated that this is about BTS. Might be bullshit but wonder which member would do this if true.
You might not have seen the previous threads cause this already has been discussed. If you're interested you can check it out.
Don't know which thread it was though.
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Bts saved the whole lgbt community, I'm so thankful
So many female idols support the LGBT community much more openly so why is it that when bts breaths these delusional fans write whole essays about how supportive bts is of the community…
If they are such big advocates for LGBT rights then why don't they specifically talk about the discrimination gays face in South Korea, now that they've gotten so big in their country? Or why didn't they talk about that in their UN "speech", instead of giving that embarrassing speech that sounded like 2013 tumblr self-love quotes.
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I'd say it's become ridiculously more pedomorphic/neotenic every year. The way idols act is also becoming more and more childish. Even with the male groups, that NCT DREAM video creeps me the fuck out.
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The closest they’ve come is Suga.
>Suga, though, is clear on where he stands: “There’s nothing wrong. Everyone is equal.”
Far from an icon…
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I'm surprised TXT hasn't blown up like Big Hit predicted smh.
During the golden era of kpop and before, adults were allowed to look like adults. Now look at someone like Nayeon who during Knock Knock era was sucking her thumb in pictorials. Korea needs to take a good look at itself.
I also remember it was okay and even normal for some people to look a bit darker. They weren't dragged for it if they were a bit tan. Now everyone has to be ghost white. I always wondered what Taemin would have looked like today if the beauty standards hadn't changed so drastically.
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Can you all shut the fuck up about this one drop black / not black bullshit? That has nothing to do with BTS. https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/04/izone-sets-a-new-record-for-first-week-sales-for-girl-groups
How the fuck is I*zone still relevant? I thought they fucked off to Japan.
i'm actually surprised that BTS of all groups has blown up it makes me lose faith in humanity… before i could get why ppl liked big bang and 2ne1 cuz they were fresh groups with addictive songs and even BTS in the early days but now they 'stan' a pretentious garbage group>>24470
this is legitimately one of the worst girl groups i've seen, it combines the cringiness of jpop style with terrible souless kpop crap
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Just wanted to post this here because ????
I know a lot of people in Asia tend to buy clothes with English words and phrases, and have no idea what they actually mean because brand or aesthetic or whatever but come on……
Wasn’t even referring to her being black anon. >>24481
I’m pretty sure a good amount of Koreans, or non-native English speakers know what “show me your boobs” mean. That idol probably didn’t even notice it
You’re probably right that he didn’t notice but
if I were in such a position, I’d be trying to figure out what something says before I goddamn wear it and get my dumb ass photographed at the airport.
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It's more on the shitty stylists. Idols rarely dress themselves if they're going out in public, even to airports.
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It's nothing cringier than what this lizard wore though
"Blood and sperm all over the place
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I've never noticed that though. All I know is that all of them get equally ugly clothes.
But that sort of thing seems common considering how members' popularity in their own groups differ. For example, i see that Nayeon imo gets prettier clothes most of the time. There are many cases but it's not as obvious as it is with bp that's why no one discusses it.
No Halsey is an quadroon
Her dad is the biracial one and she’s more white than black
Basically how Megan and Harry’s baby will look like
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Bp's styling tends to be really shit, jennie and lisa's clothes in pic related are criminal
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Speaking of worst outfit in kpop ever, I still couldn't forget irene's cookie monster top for some reason. It's so top kek.
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Bonus pic: average koreans cheering on red velvet at mbc gayo
Ellie Goulding is still a somewhat known name, NCT supposedly have songs written by like social media influencers on their next album which is a whole other tier of desperate.
SM needs to stop forcing this "global" concept and focus on making hits for the Asian market, that's been their bread and butter for ages now
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I'd rather have a normal audience that includes women rather than twice's obsessed loser fanboys and creepy uncle fans.
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I know a few anons here have s massive hate boner for Jimin but I actually don’t hate the way he looks because he reminds me of Ryu Seung Ryong.
I wonder why that is though? If the whole concept of kpop was an imitation of jpop shouldn't it be the other way where it's first pedo bait and cuetsy teen concepts with skinny, tiny girls and then become more mature and diverse? Hell, even jpop is way more diverse with biracial idols that are not only half white, and different body types etc.
is it cause they're now primarily influenced by the west?
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You forgot "puberty and weight loss
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lol I can't tell whether you're trolling or not but in this pic I do see some resemblance in the eyes.
Rose's head always looks like a melon and her body a collection of match sticks. Such a weird combination.
I'm wondering if the people who find her pretty also find her proportions to be terrifying because it's like sticking a blimp on a stick figure.
I really don't think it's too much about western validation so much as western money. Korea is a fairly small country and it needs money from elsewhere to keep propping it up and to help their industry grow. T-ara pretty much became d-listers at home but they were able to keep going because they were still huge in China. Red Velvet, Twice, and a slew of other groups routinely do tours in Japan. There's that kpop convention that happens in the USA too.
The western market is huge and its not surprising they want a piece of the pie. Kpop has a quickly growing (rabid) audience that will consume any piece of media they're in, so of course the western media will want to try and get some hits off them too. It's mutually beneficial and even if not much money is made it still drums up publicity. I know mentioning them sends people into a tizzy, but Bts is the only group I can think of that really needed the west. Their fame shot up a lot in their home country thanks to that sudden explosion of hardcore international fans.
Damn, sorry turned into a long ass tangent.
Yeah. Eyes and jaw imo.
If Jimin can get out of the whole poisonous idol image and embrace growing older, I don’t think he’d be bad looking at all.
>inb4 fuck off ratmy why don’t you have the same irrational hatred that I do!!!!
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I guess bts are woke gay kings for having a song called dionysus now
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The bisexual flag as a background is a reach. Was curious about that and this is what armies are referring to. It's not even the bisexual flag colors lmao
Another element : Dionysus is known for his androgynous appearance. But one of his main symbols is the phallus, so he's very much a man and not the god of intersex/transgender people.
Btw Dionysus is the god of Furor (meaning frenzy) which inspires the poet or causes chaos and leads to orgies. That with the wine, I think BTS' song will either be about being 'such great songwriters' (not sure about that though, it would mean they actually did some researches, which is unlikely) or being 'drunk in love', but without the sexual aspect ofc, that would ruin their UwU babyboy image.
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so i was watching a show with yoona and her family in it. during lunch i guess the lighting hit her just right and exposed some bubble??? above her eyebrow… i thought maybe it was humid and the camera got blurry but nope. is that a filler because god help her
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I wish they were joking
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Speaking of forehead implants, yeri was caught having it in a show. I guess it's okay because she had no other choice other than showing up despite having a fresh implant, and people probably wouldn't have really noticed it cause the camera was always moving, but then she decided to take a selfie with it…
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No1curr but they both have that gaunt giant head on a stick figure look
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Kpop photoshop fails are hilarious
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I guess I'm late to the party but I didn't know that Blackpink was going to be in Coachella. I'm curious to watch them withouth Korea fancy editing.
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Kpop fans are incredibly retarded. This woman didn't become famous because of her talent or brains or any other quality but because she fit incredibly narrow beauty standards. But they see her as some feminist icon. I'm speechless.
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It's incredible how other people's perception of what's cute and beautiful can make you change your own perception. One my friends loves Jimin and I started kinda liking him too and thinking he was handsome. I have changed my mind since then but holy fuck - seeing this pic made me realize how utterly hideous he is. I don't even feel bad for bashing his looks since he seems unsufferable too.
This happened so many times with other groups. Can't they just organize that shit better?
I'd never go back there if I were them.
I could list some of it
1) taeyeon's groping accident
2) vip seats got stolen by people in the back, fans keep screaming at blackpink when performing
3) lee jongsuk's visa problem due to mismanagement
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i find her pretty now too, although i agree about the stick insect with scoliosis thing kek. if we were to go by the logic that she’s ugly by default without ps + makeup + filters then all of bp would be ugly since all of them use it and none are completely natural. the only one who looked above average as a teen was jisoo iirc. this would go for most idols obviously.
anyway armys are still creaming themselves over how superior bts is in america while very few other groups even promote there.
Are you talking about that one akb member?
But yeah no fucking way that a young idol who actively works can admit to being homosexual/bisexual.
The jpop industry also fucked up in its own ways but they are way more inclusive.
I wonder what'll happen to all these gay 3rd generation idols once they retire. Would be horrible if they faked being straight for their entire life.
they can't choose between>omg BTS slay america, better than other kpop groups
when it come to sales and tv appearances and>BTS doesn't NEED your western validation
if people point out any negative reception towards them in the US
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he really went and fucked himself up huh
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He used to be so handsome
little ot but when you are familiar with both Korean and Japanese (pop) culture it's really easy to see the juxtaposition between confident Japan and insecure Korea. No wonder Korea is so keen on showing "the best" in everything to the world.
That's why we'll most likely never see real diversity cause that would mean giving people that are largely seen as unattractive a chance.
Not a weeb btw, just a disillusioned ex kpop fan.
Not same anon but I had the same experience to be honest, I got into kpop around BTS's fame and I also found some of the members good looking. Now I don't know what I saw in them, but I do think the excesive plastic surgery/paper white skin had a lot to do with me not liking them anymore. I've seen older photos of Jimin and I think he had some good looks but he looks dreadful now.
Seeing these types of threads and realizing the amount of ps they do really drives home how unnatural idols can get. I still a find a lot of idols cute, but they are usually the ones that look the most natural, or are natural like Wooseok from Pentagon.
they are trying way too hard with their social justice agenda and victim
complex, it all comes off as very off-putting. bts has always been doing whatever the trend was at the time, i don't know how armys actually buy into the whole "other kpop groups are manufactured but we are actually humble and sincere!!" thing. they are just as manufactured as any other kpop group. they went through a high school dropout fuckboy phase when other kpop groups were doing it, they went through a tumblr-ey depression phase when all that shit was popular, now they are going through a sjw phase because it's the trendy thing now.
I just think it’s weird how some of you claim that you’re aware that idols are manufactured to hell and back and yet also believe that their idol personalities are…you know, real enough to conclude that they’re such a disgusting person~!!! or whatever
Most people here don’t seem to have a clear and level headed view of the idol industry. Or just pop music in general.
Fans vs anti-fans. Two sides of the same delusional coin.
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Apparently now James Charles is now a blackpink stan. Lmao kpoppies are creaming themselves over how K-pop is getting more "international attention
Maybe I’m just confusing nitpicking with valid
criticism? I just mean, I’ve seen some thoughtful things said here, particularly in the earlier threads, but it’s also mixed with a lot of “I know the industry is bullshit but lol isn’t [idol name here] so fucking bland and ugly? It’s all [idol name here]’s fault lololooololllllll so skelly, so PS, soooo disgusting.” If they’ve entirely forgotten to step back to see that there are PEOPLE underneath all the abuse and exploitation and marketing, etc.
Sorry if I’m not being clear, I have a difficult time organizing my thoughts because I’m an idiot but I hope you get the gist of it.
Right, because when you turn 18, naïveté completely disappears, all the life experience of someone triple your age somehow manifests in your now fully adult brain and it’s impossible for people to take advantage of you.
even if they wait until the contract expires then they're still likely to be met with accusations of being a traitor, betraying the company, find it tough to find a new agency, and still have a few light blocks when it comes to promoting. there's a stupid level of loyalty that's expected even in the extremely rare situations where it's legally found that a company needs to change their contracts, like after the jyj fiasco that overhauled contract lengths. fans might claim that it's best for darling oppa to move to a company that gives him better haircuts but the general public is going to call you a traitor unless you have some serious proof that it was terrible. i have less sympathy for idols signing these contracts at 19+ years old, but i still don't think that them being an adult means they're totally to blame for signing bad contracts. it's not like companies pick 19 year olds off the street and they're dumb enough to sign, i imagine you'd be a lot more naive and vulnerable if you had been training under the company since you first started highschool and have it drilled into you that you're replaceable to the company but that they made you what you are. kpop contracts remind me of old hollywood (like 30s and 40s) film studio contracts, if anyone ever reads about those. the pre-2011 13 year contracts are especially fucked.
the risks of leaving shouldn't matter much if you're really suffering under your contract and have the money to take the risk, but if your only problem there is not having quite as much creative freedom as you want then it's worth just sucking it up and dealing with it instead of risking leaving, especially if they can negotiate a better contract after the first 7 years.
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Undertone+shade denial is so real. I hope the industry and the country can someday move on to broaden their beauty standards to ones that actually cover traits their race naturally has bc these mutilated faces and clownish stylings are doing nobody any favors. Even the attractive idols get shafted by how narrow the standards are.>>24785
The Jpop thread isn't called anti and has a pretty healthy mix of critical posts and some positive ones too ,though I admit to not reading every single post. I skim these threads usually. It's a shame kpop fans/antis can't tone their obsessions down to have some more nuanced discussion. I'd say nitpicks are fine bc it's part of the fun of gossip (outside of cow boards especially) but it's a bit frustrating to be called a stan just bc one isn't explosively hateful about a kpop idol. I'm not a fan of the genre and the fake faces do nothing for me but there are a few songs I've jammed to here and there, mainly from groups that get mentioned here bc I don't actually seek out kpop related content aside from this thread. Red Velvet comes to mind as an example. Sappy was a cute little pop song that I came across bc I searched their name on YT.
I have even less interest in consuming jpop but I've enjoyed that thread as well, it's interesting to talk about how the genre evolved and what the older artists are up to these days etc.>>24805
I think you're talking about how kpop fan spaces are extremely common online and it's really obnoxious. I would agree with that sentiment. Often times I'm more interested in laughing at the incredibly vapid fans rather than the actual artists bc they latter are just manufactured pop products in the end. Maybe more formulaic but no less creatively bankrupt than western pop acts. The fans are fascinating, though.
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You think it looks taller than the original nose? Hmm, I didn't quite catch that but maybe you're right. >>24808
Googling someone's name and looking at a few images to fact check does not equate to stanning, sperg.
I'm the spreg but you're the one wking him and frothing out the mouth trying to defend him even though it's evident he got ps. Hmm…okay Felix-chan. >>24815
I wouldn't even be surprised lmao
Yes. You guys sound completely retarded.
Antis and stans really are two sides of the same shit coin.
I stand corrected: you guys don't just sound retarded, you are
retarded.>inb4 hi felix-chan/stan
I've never made a single post about him
I wrote this post >>24824
, and I wasn't even talking about felix, heck I forgot all about him. I was just talking about idols in general>>inb4 hi felix-chan/stan
saying stuff like that is so tiresome honestly
Not samefag, but I agree.
It’s just as stupid to nitpick idols as it is to worship them.
Not everyone has the same opinions about plastic surgery. I'm not going to call you out for your opinion so I don't think you have the right to either>>24844
I know right? I assumed people on here knew what was this thread was for but it looks like they don't? I don't like some things on here sometimes but I'd feel more stupid complaining about it all the time>>24846
Lol I thought of that too
So it was all your fault all along!? Lol you should've made it more obvious you meant it sarcastically.
So does this mean nitpicking is not allowed here anymore?
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Out of Loona, I find Hyunjin so detestable. Something I noticed about these people who seem to fit perfectly the beauty standard of koreans is that they seem scared to death to show any expressions. I wonder if this is because they're trying to look elegant, or they're afraid people will think they're ugly when they don't have that standard blank face that makes me want to punch them. This goes for Hyunjin but also Suzy, Irene, Tzuyu etc
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this girl is so damn ugly
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hani is the opposite and it's quite weird tbh. but i don't think she fits korean beauty standards that mmuch
Someone who cares should go make a thread about ugly idols or whatever.
Leave critical threads for industry dirt & discussion.
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they're going to report us to bighit
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Did Jisoo get a forehead implant or am I bugging?
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His face just get worse
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i know this horse has been beaten to death but i really can’t get over how skelly rosé looks. i found this video on twitter with the caption “YEEEEESS WORK IT BABY” and i’m stunned that her own fans show zero concern towards her weight. she has so little stomach fat that from a side view you can see her ribcage hanging over her abdomen, and her ribs are visible even in a relaxed pose. i’m surprised she hasn’t had a fainting incident yet.
Wow I thought you were exaggerating but…indeed, those are her ribs. Her legs are very freaky and her head just doesn't match her body, it's too big. Not to mention her proportions are shit.
I can't imagine these girls are in a healthy place mentally or physically but the fans will ignore because fans today see any honest criticism or anything that isn't praise as HATE that they have to defeat through the power of delusion. Nobody will do anything until one of these girls ends up in a hospital on life support.
Would be a hilarious story to tell people
1 of the reasons I want to meet idols
Bc I want to fight them
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when wendy was starving during red flavour era, red velvet stans claimed it was abs and not ribs sticking out
is ugliest member of LOONA straight up
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sweetie i don't wear makeup and i have eyebrows which your oppa don't so :'D i can't believe how triggered
you areeeee :'D(:'D)