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What creators you will not support? Artists, bands, youtubers/streamers, any people who create media. Can be people you have supported and loved before, or ones you have always steered clear of. Preferably for actually PrObLeMaTiC
reasons, rather than "x is uggo".
Thread pic is mine, Die Antwoord. I unironically liked their music, but the shit that has come out makes my stomach turn every time I hear their music now. Just some shit they have done:https://dancingastronaut.com/2022/05/die-antwoord-accused-of-child-abuse-and-grooming-by-adopted-ex-son-tokkie/https://musicfeeds.com.au/news/aussie-rapper-accuses-die-antwoords-ninja-of-trafficking-child-grooming-sexual-abuse-more-in-explosive-new-diss-track/
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Another one is Mr. Kitty, who is claimed to have sent explicit pics, videos and texts to a minor. Fucker, I absolutely loved his music. https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2021-07-08/after-dark-singer-mr-kitty-exchanged-explicit-messages-with-underage-fan/
Also second >>221722
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A shit ton of older kpop groups, it seems like most of the golden year bgs have at least one or two rapists in their groups. TVXQ is one of the worst ones, even if I miss their music I try not to listen on official sources that give them views. I just pirate their shit and refuse to promote them.
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Brand New, there were a few accusations of their lead singer getting involved with minors (for which he apologised for). https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/brand-news-jesse-lacey-apologizes-after-sexual-misconduct-allegations-surface-200131
. I was so close to getting a Deja Entendu tattoo before this all came out - nonnas, don't get an artist/album/song you like tattooed unless you're 100% prepared to cover it up when it turns out a moid involved is a sexpest.>>221722
Ugh, I'd never heard about this. Why are scrotes like this??
Josh homme break my heart. I was going to get a tattoo of …Like Clockwork, qotsa was the band of my teenagerhood. But this is above what i can tolerate https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/josh-homme-children-file-domestic-violence-restraining-order-1223802/amp/
and this article glosses over that his ex-wife said that he sexually abused his sons too.
Was just about to post them, ugh.>>221757
Hating her for the ddlg shit is valid
but I think the SA allegations against her by her enby ex fwb were completely retarded. If I was a fan I wouldn't have dropped her for that. Her horrible visual album feat. Yungelita and a boomer troon that bore a striking resemblance to that other boomer troon who got off on pretending to be a 5 year old girl was worse. Makes for a decent hate watch though.
where did i say none of the younger groups are 'problematic
'? kek i mostly follow young nugu groups for shipping and lewd purposes, i couldn't care less if they succeed
Meanwhile men will remain fans of their works while also using the male creator's fucked up mindset as some sort of proof of quality. Men love feeling like they're so edgy for admiring the works of abusive
Oh I see, thanks>>221964
to be fair way too many people praise him as a genius too. And I've always wondered what's so good about him.>>221968
They love pretending that an author being a fucked up sociopath only makes his works better somehow.
Die Antwoord for me too, anon. Shame, because I also genuinely liked their music. >>221871
Jesus I didn't even know about this one. I love Kyuss and older QOTSA. Why are scrotes and music industry people such shitbirds?
you want my opinion nonnie
? its drug adicction. JHo in particular always struggled with opioids and shit, and those can transform people into absolute monsters with enought years of addition. Still, i cant get pass it. I'm never going to see them live again, or buy cds anymore.
Ayrt, I feel like there is a lot to dislike about King. I only read one book by him (Salem's Lot) but I just didn't like the way he wrote female characters. Also like the other anon said there was the weird child gangbang scene he wrote in IT (and I think there are other instances of him sexualizing underage female characters but don't quote me on that) I've also heard he tried to make the abusive
guy in the Shining seem sympathetic (but don't quote me on that either because I haven't read it lol). There just seems to be a lot of undertones of misogyny in his writing from what I've heard.
As for Neil Gaiman, I don't really have a solid reason for disliking him lol. It's just that every time I see him talking he seems really smug and I always got the feeling he was smug and full of himself. I was actually gonna give him a chance at one point and read something but him but then he and King jumped on the "fuck JKR" train and lost all interest in it lol.
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Rob Dyke/Gavagan. He’s given me creepy vibes for the longest, when that controversy happened about him having inappropriate convos with barely legal fans I had that “I could have seen that coming” feeling. Years before that even happened I tried watching a few of his videos and even though he gave me a weird vibe I still liked some of his content, but I remember a specific video where he was talking about a sexual assault/rape and the way he talked about it put me off so badly I followed that original gut feeling and never watched a single video of his ever again.
Same, I used to love their music but pretty much immediately after reading what really was going on behind the scenes I couldn't bring myself to enjoy it anymore. Feels like a loss, I'm sure Id still listen to if from time to time if nothing bad happened. >>221722>Mr.Kitty
Had no idea about this one just like other anons, fucking sucks. >>221811>johnny depp.
This too, cant bear to see his smug face anywhere anymore. Recently I was planning to watch a movie and found out he had some minor scene in it, and I just preferred to skip it altogehter.
NTA but are you me? I read a few more books than you from the two and I can second these.>Stephen King
Sexist trash and male fantasies in all of his books, picked up an anthology from him and first thing he talks about are the titties of the wife character. Ladies, I fucking LOVE horror, but King has piles of garbage in his repertoire (cough, the Shit Weasels novel) and mediocre prose. I still acknowledge him as the inventor of many popular horror tropes and some good story ideas. Then he turned full "fuck JKR".>Neil Gaiman
A fucking leech on authors like Lovecraft and Terry Pratchett. His standalone work is completely generic and bland and can't reach Pratchett's wit and charm, his writing is totally soulless.
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I mentioned him in another thread but Tyler Carter was a singer I used to enjoy when I was younger. I stopped listening to him after he defended Sam Pepper, saying all the allegations against him were slander. I can't for the life of me find the tweet anymore so he must've deleted it. After MeToo I noticed so many posthardcore/metalcore bands had nasty groomers called out. Can anyone else shed some light on groups in this genre? I wouldn't know where to look. I know Pierce The Veil had a groomer member but I don't remember the details.
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I can’t stand mindless self indulgence anymore. After finding out about all the weird pedo shit (>>877527 gives you the gist) I couldn’t enjoy any of their songs anymore. I don’t care about how offensive the songs are, except for when the song has sexual references which makes me wanna hurl. Anyways, the main reason I dislike msi is because of jimmy urine, really. My friend still loves msi and even idolizes jimmy a bit, and I don’t know how to break it to her. In the fan base I can’t stand the “I’m so cool” attitude everyone has. As if it’s god’s gift to find their music catchy. The music is just a haha me so cool zany invader zim scenecore accessory to the newer fans. People are invested, seemingly just so they’re not considered a poser/faker. And for what? Sick of this band and all the circlejerking.
Also if any nonas have any advice on what I should do with my friend let me know. I almost want to keep her in the dark about it because she likes listening to them so much.
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Cool thread OP! Illuminaughty is someone I used to love watching on YouTube, until she started really leaning into troon shit. Not severe like these other people in the thread, but enough to make me unsubscribe and move on from her content.
so many twitch streamers are massive faggots. greekgodx became a misogynistic incel junkie. knowing how he is now takes the joy out of those old streams he did with tyler1 for me.
ggx's message to his future waifu:>“I will stream while you cook for me and you clean for me and you look after the children, while I gain all the money and I give it to you and our children for a healthy, secure life. Okay?>“Because streaming, believe it or not, is mentally damaging to my mind. So I’m gonna damage my mind in order for our kids [to have a secure life].”
said completely unironically
I remember browsing her threads on here a few years ago, but then they just died after she bought that car and started drawing sirius black fanart iirc
Has anything happened since then?
This one is a tough one for sure because I loved MSI growing up but when I learned about Jimmy Urine and he's grossness, it has definitely hurt them for me.
The only song I will admit that I still listen to "Shut ME Up" and "Straight to Video", I genuinely like the instrumentation in these songs too much to stop listening to them but overall, Jimmy is horrible.
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Lostprophets hands down. I LOVED this band when I was in high school, I listened to their "Start Something" and "Liberal Transmission" albums so much on my walks to and fro school. "Rooftops" brought me to tears the first few times I listened to that song. And I thought Ian Watkins was a total hottie.
But then we learn about how fucked up and monstrous he really was. I still remember reading that court document listing all the crimes he committed, the baby and all. I was beyond mortified. And even when he was sent ot prison, he was caught pen-palling to a teenage girl.
Needless to say, I can't listen to them anymore, not even "Rooftops". I remember trying to see if I could separate the artist from their work since the other members of the band claimed they had no idea Ian was a sick fuck but even with that, I just couldn't do it.
The thing that sucks the most is that the old members formed a new band to get away from the Lostprophets name but I couldn't get ito their stuff, Ian had a legit awesome singing voice and without it, it just wasn't the same and I feel guilty because the band mates are good, just not my cup of tea.
Blood on the Dance Floor. The band never made ground breaking songs, but I have fond memories of listening to them in nightcore and AMVs from years ago. It's kinda creepy actually, looking at some of those lyrics with the context of Dahvie being a real pedophile.
>Parents banging down the door. Oh, no! Caught with my pants down, now I gotta leave this town.
This video makes a great job describing the controversies, both with the girls he abused and some behind the scenes stuff.
And while we are at it, today I found out Orion Simprini, main singer from The orion experience, also groomed a few girls on Tiktok. I really love their songs, Cosmicandy is a very special album to me, but Orion just had to do what all genderblobs do. I guess it's my fault at this point.
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Some more information on Orion's case, he basically wanted a poly relationship with his underage fans, and even met up in real life with some of them.https://poptopic.com.au/news/the-orion-experience-singer-accused-of-grooming-more-by-11-year-old/
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Rammstein. I attended their current tour after having bought tickets 3 years ago. In the past few months stories have been coming out of Till (lead singer) having an assistant who recruits young girls for the afterparty + VIP party. The afterparty is a regular party with alchohol + food, and the guests include men and some regular fans. The VIP party is where selected girls get invited to a hotel to have a 'private dinner' with Till. Guitarist Richard apparently also 'borrows' some of these girls for himself. These men are nearly 60 and the girls are usually 18-22, skinny, Russian, dressed alternatively (Tills preferences). Scrotes on reddit defend this - "duh, they're rockstars, and the women involved want this!" but it's disgusting and made me real uncomfortable. The recruiter is herself a woman and acts real friendly and approachable, I think she lures girls in presenting the event as simply a 'meet the band' opportunity.
Some women have participated in these and have said that even when negative things go down, they are pressured by the assistant to hype up the party/experience on their social media as 'payback' for being allowed in. They've been reluctant to share their experiences, but there are a couple of stories out there.
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I don't trust Till ever since he and his director randomly showed up at the train station to help an Ukrainian woman get a hotel room. A friend linked me this article, and all I got was major creep vibes. https://loudwire.com/rammstein-till-lindemann-helps-ukrainian-refugee/
. I even have a shirt here but it’s probably a china product anyways kek
I dare to confess i also have a mayhem shirt with nazi a nazi skull on it. I didn’t know at that time until later a friend mentioned the skulls. I feel too guilty selling it, i just keep it as silly memorabilia
And only that took you to stop supporting him?
He had an autograph session in my country few years ago, he showed up on a dirty, rainy stream with a woman wearing full latex (only her mouth wasnt covered) and walking on her fours (she also had a zip for quick access to her vagina) He actually travelled to all of the cities there with this poor woman, and I heard he did the same in some other one, too.
I am shocked how it feels like he only brought his freaky, disgusting crap in rural countries. I will show the pictures later.
Ok anon, come on with this article, it's widely known that he has sex with fans during his own performances behind the stage so that's pretty disgusting, but the ukrainian refugees situation was a widely publicized PR event, even the article quotes this specific woman that she was offered a hotel stay - not with him or his director, by herself. She just received help she's grateful for, let's not make it uglier than it has to be.
And - controversial opinion I think - I have never seen any report of fans actually groomed or abused, groupies exist and are actually happy to sleep with their idols. The biggest controversy I know of is some videoclip from his solo project where he's filmed having sex with fans - who were regular girls, not pornstars, and release of said video brought a lot of hate on them they did not expect to receive. It was ridiculously irresponsible to release to the wide public.
Holyshit. He was one of the few crime youtubers I thought was really respectful in his videos about criminals vs victims
. I've never seen the videos where he is empathizing with the killer, but that's unfortunate…
Here, I watched one of his recent videos and he does it again.>the suspect openly shows he premeditated the crime for 40min>he let his mother suffer for hours>he was aware it was bad, cleaned and hid the bodies>tried to escape to america and then confessed
Coffehouse crime: "uhm I disagree with his uncle, he shouldn't be seen as a danger, he needs help and he is obviously confused"
I would generally never support a streamer or youtuber, get a real job. Plus I don't even watch that shit anyway.
But I am generally not a fan of real people so there is no band or anything I feel buying merch of. I might support them buying digital music though, especially since a lot of stuff I listen to rather niche. I wouldn't support stuff like Burzum though, because of the shit Varg was doing. I don't think I would abstain from buying a game because of different world views of the creator or anything, that would have to be very extreme or literal crime to make me nope out.
On the other hand though I never read anything about other people, so there is a very high chance that I wouldn't know about it even if someone whose music I listen do did something crazy.
You forgot to mention Nicki Minaj also financially supported her pedophile/rapist brother once he got caught by the police. I lost all the respect I had for her when that case was made public, and then she doubled down by married another rapist. I still can't believe I have one of my best friends always complaining about JKR being a terf
when I talk about Harry Potter while being a Nicki Minaj stan.
Not a pewdiepie fan, never have been. I just recognise that the dude is not a nazi. You dont have to be a fan to know that. Hes just some dude with a channel
Its bizarre to see people panic about these things. A vast majority of burgerfags have never
crossed paths with an actual nazi and yet insist nazis are small around them. People should be happy that actual nazis are rare enough instead of just labelling some random screaming let's player faggot as a literal genocidal racist
Imagine getting bent out of shape because someone doesn't worship your 4chan god kek>>224675
She's so retarded for breeding with a rapist, anyone who ignores that cosigns rape and child abuse.
By'nazi simping' she clearly meant how many alt right leaning misogynist losers he followed and promoted you retards>reeee imagine calling someone a racist because of a joke
Imagine getting triggered
that someone called out an unfunny coomer scrote for his retarded behavior, we get it, your nigels browse /pol/ and you're their edgy cool girls
Speaking of that inbred weeb I refuse to click on anything that references him because of his cringe horny middle schooler and feminazi jokes, literally the cringiest person on earth
To be fair, the actual genocidal racist from 8chan who shot up a mosque in NZ did mention him in his stream of the attack. I tend to think about it whenever I hear the name now even though I know he had no involvement. And you're being a little autistically semantic over the term "nazi."
He also isn't funny, is an actual /pol/tard, and hit the wall nearly a decade ago as other anons have said. No need to wk him.
I was disappointed but not surprised when I saw Darren Aronofsky on there. Like his movies, but of course, anyone the tiniest bit arty is going to lick Polanskis wrinkled pedo taint.>In 2009, when he was arrested in Zurich, Switzerland, in relation to his U.S. arrest warrant, many famous filmmakers, actors and artists signed a petition, created by Harvey Weinstein>created by Harvey Weinstein
The jokes write themselves. https://www.imdb.com/list/ls090808434/
Damn, I am just now finding out about MSI. Haven't followed them closely since I was a teen so genuinely unaware of anything that has happened since they went on indefinite hiatus. I have a playlist on spotify that is like 10+ years old with like 150+ of there songs, this is such a disappointment. I listen to them every now and again for nostalgia and just recently started listening to them more often at the gym (because high energy songs help, blah blah blah). Fuck. I don't even know how to respond to this, I still enjoy many of their songs but this is so gross. Idk how to deal with this news other than throwing it into the endless pile of evidence that moids will truly always disappoint you, no matter what.>>221877
God I hate that Lindsay Ellis simps for troons and the woke crowd, her older videos were really good and it felt refreshing to hear a woman's thoughts in a space so male dominated. And she's not the only one, there have been several instances of youtubers I enjoyed suddenly getting deep into defending troons and mentioning them in multiple videos after they get big. It's always after they start getting really big views, I swear. Like why suddenly cater to those degenerates specifically so fucking hard? All I can do is unsubscribe but it sucks they gain this huge audience just to go and push the tranny propaganda.
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Gloryhammer and Alestormhttps://loudwire.com/alleged-leaked-chat-gloryhammer-misogynists-racists/
I mean, what the fuck did I expect from the bands of a scrote that wrote the line "Tequila and a donkey show"?
Samefag, forgot to mention that this moid was going to name the band "Gloryhole" at first but tbf I learned that after reading about the leaked chats>>231735
I agree and it's sad when you think about it, you never know which of the bands you like is going to be revealed to be a bunch of sexists, groomers, rapists, etc.
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I posted about him in ot already, but this is a better thread. John Clowder (or John Meyer), also previously known as myformerselves, revolverwinds, Takamo and bargainbinbible is the author of a few niche but popular rpgmaker games, Gingiva and Middens (and also Where they Cremate the Roadkill). They're a bit like OFF, but the visuals were very unique. I used to admire his work a lot until I found out that he blatantly copied from a rapey novel to make the story of his first game, is very arrogant, pretentious and cannot take criticism and sent explicit messages to a minor while being fucking married.>>231766
I'm sorry you found out nonnie
. He's also a huge narcissist and had grooming allegations at some point (the classic situation where he acts like a victim
because he's depwessed and he can't control his love uwu).