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outdated but still triggers me when I randomly remember it exists
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nta but canonically until the last movie Kylo Ren was manipulated and abused by his mentor Snoke. Not only that, but he also thought Luke was going to murder him in his sleep. Among other things. So he was kind at a point where he saw the jedi as being more treacherous and hypocritical than the sith in my interpretation at least
He was a character that began good, then turned evil but always struggled between being consistent with it (refusing to kill his mom, feeling a pull to the light, getting intrigued by Rey and wanting to teach her/refusing to kill her, etcetc)
But it ended up being retconned by the third movie anyway, it was kinda of "just palpatine" manipulating Kylo instead and having a Snoke army in his basement for some reason. Kylo Ren's character was butchered more by JJ Abrams than any fan interpretation imo lol
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Oh and samefagging to add that Disney never cared about that trilogy and it's fans enough to ever do a gotcha take like that. They didn't care enough to hire writers to do a cohesive trilogy from day 1, they just trusted the directors to do whatever and went on to build the theme park and collect their money. But yeah, I'm going to that theme park anyway
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Because the Breath of the Wild link was created to be somewhat androgynous so everyone could self insert as him.
But of course, it was taken to the other shore and now enbies and trannies are trying to claim him as some “gender neutral icon” or some sort of “trans whatever the sex of the idiot into him wants to fetishize icon”
All tranny headcanons are utterly retarded and make no sense.
I felt like the first tranny cannon I’ve ever seen was Dipper being a tranny and it really made me hate trannies a lot, like, it’s so retarded.
I don’t mind people thinking that Mabel is desperate enough for attention to date Pacifica, but gender bending a character and making it a tranny for gender fandom points is honestly stupid and adds nothing to anything, even fanfics end up becoming a tranny wankfest instead of making the characters relatively interesting.
Also, I despise the “snufkin is trans” headcanon, it’s a guy with friends. A dumbass mistranslation doesn’t mean he’s a tranny.
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Thank you nona, glad I didn't see the replies earlier. Forever mad they left out the backstory from TFA, though to be fair, it's still clear that Snoke is manipulating Kylo - though without the information, it reads as a cult leader behavior.
Anyway have some sources (not all of them and also the first picture has a misinformation in regards to burning the temple down, it was also Snoke), also this meta is interestinghttps://ncfan-1.tumblr.com/post/138858270332/star-wars-the-force-awakens-the-novelization>>159254>>159403
Imagine agreeing with Dobson fishing for good boi points and thinking that The Mouse is subtly flipping off the greasy fanboys with funko pop shelves lmfao
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Everyone just projects their own personality onto her and other female protagonists.
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I hate how he's reduced to sexy mysterious sex god by the fandom despite being a far more complex tragic character. Also I despise the solavellan fandom
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I'm basically echoing previous anons but I hate the troon side of the Dark Souls fandom that calls Gwyndolin an MtF. He is the classic trope of the "royal boy who was raised as a girl due to archaic sexism" and yet trannies are making him their kweer idol and they can be very nasty about it, I saw a dude get death threats on Tumblr because he made a harmless shitpost where he referred to Gwyndolin as a male. They go as far as accusing the devs of being evil transphobes because the third game of the franchise was more explicit with him disliking the crossdressing, nevermind the fact that the tranny headcanon is niche to the western fandom and even fucking TvTropes isn't on their side.
On the other side of the autistic coin I saw a fakeboi headcanoning him as a trans man, which makes even less sense.
Idk, fakeboi Gwyndolin makes more sense to me than mtf troon Gwyndolin. Like in your attached pic he has an obviously female body, so the headcanon that he was born a girl and wanted to be a boy, but his transphobic dad forced him to live as a girl makes more sense imo. Plus why would Gwyn force one of his children to become a tranny anyway, his family is fucked up as is.
I hold no strong opinions about Gwyndolin either way and I wouldn't care about this headcanoning shit at all but troons always get so nasty about it. Dogpiling you the moment you don't agree with them because fictional characters are serious business. On the fextralife wiki there were literal 400-word essay slapfights about Gwyndolin's gender at some point.
Fujos do this shit too, with their "you can't ship these characters in a het ship" bullshit, even if the characters aren't even canonically gay.
>>159596>They go as far as accusing the devs of being evil transphobes because
ah, so it's the same situation as with the Chihiro fag in DR and terf
ally Naoto in Persona
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Every fucking fandom interpretation about every single one of the characters being some sort flavor of LGBT+. I hate all of them with a burning fucking passion, hate how it's a low hanging fruit for content, hate how many repetitive posts are made about sexuality headcanons. Seeing that retardation is tiring and seeps into spaces where it isn't needed. Like no, Midori didn't rape Shin, Shin never implied that, shut the fuck up. Q-taro is not gay, you're headcanoning that only because he reminds you of your vaguely racist white trash uncle and uwu you uncomfy. Alice is not trans just because you
think that this one bit where he talked about how his parents tried to raise him femininely means exactly that he was born a woman. Your interpretations are paranoid as shit, your imagination is entirely dictated by the corporate capitalist landscape that is the LGBT+ craze, just shut the entire fuck up before getting angry at people who tell you straight up they don't want to deal with your shit.
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>>159596>>159602>On the fextralife wiki there were literal 400-word essay slapfights about Gwyndolin's gender at some point.
you aren't lying, the regulars were based as fuck tho
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Won't comment on FFVIIR (as I think Tifa is a bit more independent there), but retards missing out on entire characterization of Aerith in the original FFVII to prop their pick-me waifu Tifa is insufferable. IDK how can you ignore that they contrast each other in every way. Cloud's "childhood friend" Tifa is physically strong, but psychologically weak. Aerith is the 'meet cute' squishy mage who looks frail, but takes no shit from anyone. And yet idiots have been portraying Aerith as some sugary damsel in distress, and an idiot to boot even though she's the one who came up with the Don Corneo plan, evaded Shinra for years etc. Would love to post screencaps comparing Aerith and Tifa's reactions to things happening, but FFVIIR makes it impossible to find content about the OG game.
I guess it's harder to ignore Aerith's actual personality when actually playing the game (and not relying on fandom hearsay, cause old game bad), not to mention one with hyperrealistic graphics and voice acting. This is the only reason why Aerith haters suddenly are like 'wtf I love Aerith now???', she's the same in both games. I don't care if someone prefers Tifa or Jessie, at least be intellectually honest enough to dislike the character for what she is and not what you claim her to be.
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I know people may disagree with me and I respect that. But I hate when people insist the pyro is female. I don't mind the idea of him being actually female but I mind it when people point to the facts that he likes unicorns and rainbows and candy, has a purse in his locker and acts childish as evidence that he is a woman. First of all the fact that they think that's what makes a woman is cringe. And second of all he's a freakin nutjob, of course he acts weird, the point is that what he actually does and what he thinks he does are in extreme contrast, and what's more opposite to fire and murder than unicorns and rainbows.
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>>159621>Like no, Midori didn't rape Shin, Shin never implied that, shut the fuck up.
God I wish he did though.
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When dumbasses make lingerie mods of her where they fuck up her original body shape and fat distribution and make her into a textureless, poreless, lifeless instagram fever dream. Yes she was curvy and thick, but the whole intrigue about her is that she's hyperrealistic, mature and strong looking. Basically the fandom interpretation of her physique is an embarrassment.
Goddamn moids have a terminal inability to process what they see and a complete lack of understanding when it comes to aesthetics or what makes something beautiful. Like yeah, keep making those mods, they're perfect proof why male hegemony in art and design is a joke taken way too far. Chemically castrate all men before letting them into arts.
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This. Solas is by far the best and most interresting character from DA4 alongside being one of the most well written villain for me alongside Johan Liebert>>159599
Friendship arc is more polished because the Solas romance was added last minute. It's also why Solas romance has so little cinematics, so idk wtf the solavellan fandom is on when they say that it's the cannon romance.>inb4 solavellan will in fact be part of the cannon world state because Patrick Weekes is a little bitch with no back bone who listen to the fandom too much
I'm loving the solavellan hate! I loved Solas as a character, I respected him so much and saw him as a mentor, gaining his friendship and respect was very rewarding, and him finally showing himself for who he was was a great storytelling moment.
I hate how solasmancers say that the only way to fully enjoy the story is to romance Solas. His romance was a last minute addition shut the fuck up>>159697>Patrick Weekes is a little bitch
He really is, and not a great writer either, but I don't think Bioware would mess with people's world states, and a romance is too big a thing and too personal to make canon.
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I'll be forever salty that the fandom collectively decided this dude was a BPD "uke" mess and that official art even started pandering to that shit. GW fandom was and still is so cringy it makes me embarrassed to like it so much.
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Everyone makes him completely and utterly useless and I can't stand it
I may be biased too, but it pisses me off that they ignore the extended game canon material when it shows the opposite of Tifa winning Cloud's heart. SE will probably never confirm that, but Aerith clearly has been the heroine of the game, the Rinoa to Tifa's Quistis. IDEK why people want Tifa to get with Cloud with whom she shares trauma, bad memories and who is treating her like shit before Aerith gets him to become kinder to the world and the people in it. Even then, they seem toxic to each other and Cloud still cares about Aerith more, even though she's in the lifestream. Also funny how Tifa instantly becomes a better characer whenever she interacts with anyone other than Cloud - Barret, Marlene, whatever.
If I said I prefer Aerith because she has big bobas and not flat chest like Tifa, I would be laughed at and considered delusional. But somehow it's fine to pin Aerith's good personality traits on Tifa and claim that you like her because she's an uplifting, streetsmart lady. Fucking yikes.
On a related note, hate people claiming Aerith never got over Zack and will join him in the Lifestream when all official material (including the games) show her stating the opposite lmfao AND appreciating Cloud's personality over Zack's manwhoring. Apparently you will forever be the property of your first bf, whether you like it or not.
I think the people who makes these desperate reaches are insecure about liking a villain or an overall mean character, because they think it gives off the impression that they like ""problematic
"" characters. People project and identify way too much with fictional characters after all. So they're looking for an excuse and any flimsy reason as to why "actually they're weren't that bad" so they can feel better about themselves. I wish people could just like asshole characters and say yep they're terrible but I love them all the same.
Also very interesting thread idea OP
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I hate all the gender discussions related to the cookies, specially with Sorbet Shark Cookie.
>Ackchyually, Sorbet is nonbinary and uses They/Them pronouns.
Shut up, shut up, I don't want this cute character getting associated with genderspecials.
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I am partly glad that the Les Miserables "fandom" is big compared to, like, other big novels from centuries ago BUT at what cost? Most of the fans are tumblr genderspecials who draw ugly art, which isn't that awful, it can be sweet and endearing, BUT they insert their disgusting headcanons about Enjolras being a tranny or Cosette being a tranny indian girl (how tf do you find an indian girl in 19th century France????) or they put a huge amount of focus on Les Amis de l'ABC and reduce the beauty of the book to their revolutionary side characters who they can self insert into.
But what's worse is when they don't only focus on the revolutionary twinks, the worst part is when they take their degenerate, disgusting headcanons to the purest, most beautiful parts of the book and call Jean Valjean a fucking DILF. Valjean is NOT a DILF, you are not supposed to lewd him, to even say the word "f" OR ANY word related to the act of copulating next to his name, he's even more purer than a loli, lewding him is a sin as great as lewding Cosette, maybe more because even Cosette does disgusting things later on in the book (like kissing Marius)
Pic related. Guess who this character is supposed to be. Or don't, I doubt anyone in this imageboard has read the book (not trying to shit on anyone, its just hard to find people who have read it and are as autistic as I am about a 1200-page novel). But this character is meant to be Cosette, the brunette (at least they got that right!) daughter of prostitute with a heart of gold, Fantine. Here she is pictured as… Fat, hairy and as a MtF. Not even a FtM, which would make a bit more sense in a modern AU in which Cosette grows up as isolated as she did and finds refuge online, no, they had to turn the little abused exploited girl into a fucking fat hairy guy wearing a cringe fucking ACAB shirt and those nasty fucking tennis skirts trannies wear to larp as women. I am disgusted. They don't understand sacred things.
And I'm not even going to start on the AUs where Javert and Valjean do… Unbecoming things. Something neither of them ever did with a woman, much less with a man.
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She's not trans you fucking pieces of shit, and neither is Caenis for that matter.
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While I agree with most of your post>you are not supposed to lewd him
I did, i do and i will.
>>161438>Guess who this character is supposed to be. Or don't, I doubt anyone in this imageboard has read the book
Are you kidding, your post gave it away. Also you don't have to read the book to know the characters, as you are aware there are million film adaptations>>161478
based, keep fighting the good fight
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Funny for like the first five minutes, but of course the queerios and kinktards had to run Goromi into the fucking ground and now we even have people saying Majima is "actually gay/trans-coded" when he's just a crazy-acting man who is bihet at most.
Also I really don't like how some people insist Ichiban is actually biracial when the game makes it clear that his parents are both Japanese and that's not his natural hair texture. Especially considering the foreign and even Asian non-Japanese characters.
Wtf? He dresses up to pretend to be a hostess just to bother Kiryu— literally word for word in the game. Have they even played Y0?
As for Ichiban that’s stupid. His hair was a running gag because he grew up in the 80s and went to prison and by the time he’s released no one in Shinkuju knew how to do a perm at that point. Why are gender specials playing these games….
Then again I've also seen people calling Makoto his beard so…>Why are gender specials playing these games….
Because most of them are still fujo weebs at heart.
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>>161625>I Like Tifa Because She Has Great Personality, Not Like The Dumb Pink Slut
(FYI, it's what tumblr shown me as a preview of the FFVIIR tag)
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I think it is because kinnies often get attracted to franchises with larger casts of characters, since they can project into them, and get salty over others not guessing their headcanons.I find this comment in particular pretty funny because Sorbet is based on the Little Mermaid, kek
samefagging because just remembered how I dislike when fandom will say a ship, usually m/f, is problematic
for xyz, whether it actually is or isn't, but if it's gay then it's totally healthy and sexy
I'm all for shipping who you want but it's so annoying seeing people have double standards. Worse when ppl will try to pick fights about ships out of nowhere while shipping something even more problematic
than the ship they don't like
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the pokemon GO fandom decided that Spark is a bumbling bafoon just because he's the one male character or some shit, I just find it so annoying. I swear it's the "hufflepuffs are goofy losers" all over again just because he happens to wear yellow. If anything he should be the "slytherin" one because he believes the strength of a pokemon comes from when they're hatched, aka " they're just born better" kek
Late but Majima should have just been gay, too bad Sega are just too cowardly and homophobic for that.>>161547
MajiMako was horribly written and detrimental to both characters, cry about it.
I've seen people use this argument against gay ships too, as long as it gets in the way of their own gay OTP (always in the name of "good LGBT representation").
When a problematic
ship is popular enough people will go incredible lengths to defend it and explain how it actually isn't toxic
at all, and then call out other shippers because the characters they ship yelled at each other this one time. People online learned they can't make you feel bad for enjoying something they don't, so now they have to resort to moral superiority to gang up on people. You can thank purity culture for that, kek