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No. 159151
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outdated but still triggers me when I randomly remember it exists
No. 159406
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>>159254>>159403nta but canonically until the last movie Kylo Ren was manipulated and abused by his mentor Snoke. Not only that, but he also thought Luke was going to murder him in his sleep. Among other things. So he was kind at a point where he saw the jedi as being more treacherous and hypocritical than the sith
in my interpretation at least He was a character that began good, then turned evil but always struggled between being consistent with it (refusing to kill his mom, feeling a pull to the light, getting intrigued by Rey and wanting to teach her/refusing to kill her, etcetc)
But it ended up being retconned by the third movie anyway, it was kinda of "just palpatine" manipulating Kylo instead and having a Snoke army in his basement for some reason. Kylo Ren's character was butchered more by JJ Abrams than any fan interpretation imo lol
No. 159407
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>>159406Oh and samefagging to add that Disney never cared about that trilogy and it's fans enough to ever do a gotcha take like that. They didn't care enough to hire writers to do a cohesive trilogy from day 1, they just trusted the directors to do whatever and went on to build the theme park and collect their money. But yeah, I'm going to that theme park anyway
No. 159422
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>>159418Because the Breath of the Wild link was created to be somewhat androgynous so everyone could self insert as him.
But of course, it was taken to the other shore and now enbies and trannies are trying to claim him as some “gender neutral icon” or some sort of “trans whatever the sex of the idiot into him wants to fetishize icon”
All tranny headcanons are utterly retarded and make no sense.
I felt like the first tranny cannon I’ve ever seen was Dipper being a tranny and it really made me hate trannies a lot, like, it’s so retarded.
I don’t mind people thinking that Mabel is desperate enough for attention to date Pacifica, but gender bending a character and making it a tranny for gender fandom points is honestly stupid and adds nothing to anything, even fanfics end up becoming a tranny wankfest instead of making the characters relatively interesting.
Also, I despise the “snufkin is trans” headcanon, it’s a guy with friends. A dumbass mistranslation doesn’t mean he’s a tranny.
No. 159449
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>>159407>>159406Thank you nona, glad I didn't see the replies earlier. Forever mad they left out the backstory from TFA, though to be fair, it's still clear that Snoke is manipulating Kylo - though without the information, it reads as a cult leader behavior.
Anyway have some sources (not all of them and also the first picture has a misinformation in regards to burning the temple down, it was also Snoke), also this meta is interesting
https://ncfan-1.tumblr.com/post/138858270332/star-wars-the-force-awakens-the-novelization>>159254>>159403Imagine agreeing with Dobson fishing for good boi points and thinking that The Mouse is subtly flipping off the greasy fanboys with funko pop shelves lmfao
No. 159452
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Everyone just projects their own personality onto her and other female protagonists.
No. 159454
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I hate how he's reduced to sexy mysterious sex god by the fandom despite being a far more complex tragic character. Also I despise the solavellan fandom
No. 159596
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I'm basically echoing previous anons but I hate the troon side of the Dark Souls fandom that calls Gwyndolin an MtF. He is the classic trope of the "royal boy who was raised as a girl due to archaic sexism" and yet trannies are making him their kweer idol and they can be very nasty about it, I saw a dude get death threats on Tumblr because he made a harmless shitpost where he referred to Gwyndolin as a male. They go as far as accusing the devs of being evil transphobes because the third game of the franchise was more explicit with him disliking the crossdressing, nevermind the fact that the tranny headcanon is niche to the western fandom and even fucking TvTropes isn't on their side.
On the other side of the autistic coin I saw a fakeboi headcanoning him as a trans man, which makes even less sense.
No. 159602
>>159596Idk, fakeboi Gwyndolin makes more sense to me than mtf troon Gwyndolin. Like in your attached pic he has an obviously female body, so the headcanon that he was born a girl and wanted to be a boy, but his transphobic dad forced him to live as a girl makes more sense imo. Plus why would Gwyn force one of his children to become a tranny anyway, his family is fucked up as is.
I hold no strong opinions about Gwyndolin either way and I wouldn't care about this headcanoning shit at all but troons always get so nasty about it. Dogpiling you the moment you don't agree with them because fictional characters are serious business. On the fextralife wiki there were literal 400-word essay slapfights about Gwyndolin's gender at some point.
Fujos do this shit too, with their "you can't ship these characters in a het ship" bullshit, even if the characters aren't even canonically gay.
No. 159620
>>159596>They go as far as accusing the devs of being evil transphobes because ah, so it's the same situation as with the Chihiro fag in DR and
terf ally Naoto in Persona
No. 159621
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>>159020Every fucking fandom interpretation about every single one of the characters being some sort flavor of LGBT+. I hate all of them with a burning fucking passion, hate how it's a low hanging fruit for content, hate how many repetitive posts are made about sexuality headcanons. Seeing that retardation is tiring and seeps into spaces where it isn't needed. Like no, Midori didn't rape Shin, Shin never implied that, shut the fuck up. Q-taro is not gay, you're headcanoning that only because he reminds you of your vaguely racist white trash uncle and uwu you uncomfy. Alice is not trans just because
you think that this one bit where he talked about how his parents tried to raise him femininely means exactly that he was born a woman. Your interpretations are paranoid as shit, your imagination is entirely dictated by the corporate capitalist landscape that is the LGBT+ craze, just shut the entire fuck up before getting angry at people who tell you straight up they don't want to deal with your shit.
No. 159626
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>>159596>>159602>On the fextralife wiki there were literal 400-word essay slapfights about Gwyndolin's gender at some point.you aren't lying, the regulars were based as fuck tho
No. 159644
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Won't comment on FFVIIR (as I think Tifa is a bit more independent there), but retards missing out on entire characterization of Aerith in the original FFVII to prop their pick-me waifu Tifa is insufferable. IDK how can you ignore that they contrast each other in every way. Cloud's "childhood friend" Tifa is physically strong, but psychologically weak. Aerith is the 'meet cute' squishy mage who looks frail, but takes no shit from anyone. And yet idiots have been portraying Aerith as some sugary damsel in distress, and an idiot to boot even though she's the one who came up with the Don Corneo plan, evaded Shinra for years etc. Would love to post screencaps comparing Aerith and Tifa's reactions to things happening, but FFVIIR makes it impossible to find content about the OG game.
I guess it's harder to ignore Aerith's actual personality when actually playing the game (and not relying on fandom hearsay, cause old game bad), not to mention one with hyperrealistic graphics and voice acting. This is the only reason why Aerith haters suddenly are like 'wtf I love Aerith now???', she's the same in both games. I don't care if someone prefers Tifa or Jessie, at least be intellectually honest enough to dislike the character for what she is and not what you claim her to be.
No. 159645
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I know people may disagree with me and I respect that. But I hate when people insist the pyro is female. I don't mind the idea of him being actually female but I mind it when people point to the facts that he likes unicorns and rainbows and candy, has a purse in his locker and acts childish as evidence that he is a woman. First of all the fact that they think that's what makes a woman is cringe. And second of all he's a freakin nutjob, of course he acts weird, the point is that what he actually does and what he thinks he does are in extreme contrast, and what's more opposite to fire and murder than unicorns and rainbows.
No. 159671
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>>159621>Like no, Midori didn't rape Shin, Shin never implied that, shut the fuck up. God I wish he did though.
No. 159695
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>>159020When dumbasses make lingerie mods of her where they fuck up her original body shape and fat distribution and make her into a textureless, poreless, lifeless instagram fever dream. Yes she was curvy and thick, but the whole intrigue about her is that she's hyperrealistic, mature and strong looking. Basically the fandom interpretation of her physique is an embarrassment.
Goddamn moids have a terminal inability to process what they see and a complete lack of understanding when it comes to aesthetics or what makes something beautiful. Like yeah, keep making those mods, they're perfect proof why male hegemony in art and design is a joke taken way too far. Chemically castrate all men before letting them into arts.
No. 159697
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>>159454This. Solas is by far the best and most interresting character from DA4 alongside being one of the most well written villain for me alongside Johan Liebert
>>159599Friendship arc is more polished because the Solas romance was added last minute. It's also why Solas romance has so little cinematics, so idk wtf the solavellan fandom is on when they say that it's the cannon romance.
>inb4 solavellan will in fact be part of the cannon world state because Patrick Weekes is a little bitch with no back bone who listen to the fandom too much No. 159704
>>159454I'm loving the solavellan hate! I loved Solas as a character, I respected him so much and saw him as a mentor, gaining his friendship and respect was very rewarding, and him finally showing himself for who he was was a great storytelling moment.
I hate how solasmancers say that the only way to fully enjoy the story is to romance Solas. His romance was a last minute addition shut the fuck up
>>159697>Patrick Weekes is a little bitchHe really is, and not a great writer either, but I don't think Bioware would mess with people's world states, and a romance is too big a thing and too personal to make canon.
No. 159738
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I'll be forever salty that the fandom collectively decided this dude was a BPD "uke" mess and that official art even started pandering to that shit. GW fandom was and still is so cringy it makes me embarrassed to like it so much.
No. 159744
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Everyone makes him completely and utterly useless and I can't stand it
No. 159752
>>159702>>159703I may be biased too, but it pisses me off that they ignore the extended game canon material when it shows the opposite of Tifa winning Cloud's heart. SE will probably never confirm that, but Aerith clearly has been the heroine of the game, the Rinoa to Tifa's Quistis.
IDEK why people want Tifa to get with Cloud with whom she shares trauma, bad memories and who is treating her like shit before Aerith gets him to become kinder to the world and the people in it. Even then, they seem toxic to each other and Cloud still cares about Aerith more, even though she's in the lifestream. Also funny how Tifa instantly becomes a better characer whenever she interacts with anyone other than Cloud - Barret, Marlene, whatever.If I said I prefer Aerith because she has big bobas and not flat chest like Tifa, I would be laughed at and considered delusional. But somehow it's fine to pin Aerith's good personality traits on Tifa and claim that you like her because she's an uplifting, streetsmart lady. Fucking yikes.
On a related note, hate people claiming Aerith never got over Zack and will join him in the Lifestream when all official material (including the games) show her stating the opposite lmfao AND appreciating Cloud's personality over Zack's manwhoring. Apparently you will forever be the property of your first bf, whether you like it or not.
No. 159753
>>159741I think the people who makes these desperate reaches are insecure about liking a villain or an overall mean character, because they think it gives off the impression that they like ""
problematic"" characters. People project and identify way too much with fictional characters after all. So they're looking for an excuse and any flimsy reason as to why "actually they're weren't that bad" so they can feel better about themselves. I wish people could just like asshole characters and say yep they're terrible but I love them all the same.
Also very interesting thread idea OP
No. 161275
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I hate all the gender discussions related to the cookies, specially with Sorbet Shark Cookie.
>Ackchyually, Sorbet is nonbinary and uses They/Them pronouns.
Shut up, shut up, I don't want this cute character getting associated with genderspecials.
No. 161438
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I am partly glad that the Les Miserables "fandom" is big compared to, like, other big novels from centuries ago BUT at what cost? Most of the fans are tumblr genderspecials who draw ugly art, which isn't that awful, it can be sweet and endearing, BUT they insert their disgusting headcanons about Enjolras being a tranny or Cosette being a tranny indian girl (how tf do you find an indian girl in 19th century France????) or they put a huge amount of focus on Les Amis de l'ABC and reduce the beauty of the book to their revolutionary side characters who they can self insert into.
But what's worse is when they don't only focus on the revolutionary twinks, the worst part is when they take their degenerate, disgusting headcanons to the purest, most beautiful parts of the book and call Jean Valjean a fucking DILF. Valjean is NOT a DILF, you are not supposed to lewd him, to even say the word "f" OR ANY word related to the act of copulating next to his name, he's even more purer than a loli, lewding him is a sin as great as lewding Cosette, maybe more because even Cosette does disgusting things later on in the book (like kissing Marius)
Pic related. Guess who this character is supposed to be. Or don't, I doubt anyone in this imageboard has read the book (not trying to shit on anyone, its just hard to find people who have read it and are as autistic as I am about a 1200-page novel). But this character is meant to be Cosette, the brunette (at least they got that right!) daughter of prostitute with a heart of gold, Fantine. Here she is pictured as… Fat, hairy and as a MtF. Not even a FtM, which would make a bit more sense in a modern AU in which Cosette grows up as isolated as she did and finds refuge online, no, they had to turn the little abused exploited girl into a fucking fat hairy guy wearing a cringe fucking ACAB shirt and those nasty fucking tennis skirts trannies wear to larp as women. I am disgusted. They don't understand sacred things.
And I'm not even going to start on the AUs where Javert and Valjean do… Unbecoming things. Something neither of them ever did with a woman, much less with a man.
No. 161465
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She's not trans you fucking pieces of shit, and neither is Caenis for that matter.
No. 161478
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>>161438While I agree with most of your post
>you are not supposed to lewd himI did, i do and i will.
No. 161484
>>161438>Guess who this character is supposed to be. Or don't, I doubt anyone in this imageboard has read the bookAre you kidding, your post gave it away. Also you don't have to read the book to know the characters, as you are aware there are million film adaptations
>>161478based, keep fighting the good fight
No. 161501
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Funny for like the first five minutes, but of course the queerios and kinktards had to run Goromi into the fucking ground and now we even have people saying Majima is "actually gay/trans-coded" when he's just a crazy-acting man who is bihet at most.
Also I really don't like how some people insist Ichiban is actually biracial when the game makes it clear that his parents are both Japanese and that's not his natural hair texture. Especially considering the foreign and even Asian non-Japanese characters.
No. 161541
>>161501Wtf? He dresses up to pretend to be a hostess just to bother Kiryu— literally word for word in the game. Have they even played Y0?
As for Ichiban that’s stupid. His hair was a running gag because he grew up in the 80s and went to prison and by the time he’s released no one in Shinkuju knew how to do a perm at that point. Why are gender specials playing these games….
No. 161547
>>161541Then again I've also seen people calling Makoto his beard so…
>Why are gender specials playing these games….Because most of them are still fujo weebs at heart.
No. 161684
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>>161625>I Like Tifa Because She Has Great Personality, Not Like The Dumb Pink SlutAlso scrotes:
(FYI, it's what tumblr shown me as a preview of the FFVIIR tag)
No. 161690
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>>161276I think it is because kinnies often get attracted to franchises with larger casts of characters, since they can project into them, and get salty over others not guessing their headcanons.
I find this comment in particular pretty funny because Sorbet is based on the Little Mermaid, kek No. 162392
>>162390samefagging because just remembered how I dislike when fandom will say a ship, usually m/f, is
problematic for xyz, whether it actually is or isn't, but if it's gay then it's totally healthy and sexy
I'm all for shipping who you want but it's so annoying seeing people have double standards. Worse when ppl will try to pick fights about ships out of nowhere while shipping something even more
problematic than the ship they don't like
No. 162410
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the pokemon GO fandom decided that Spark is a bumbling bafoon just because he's the one male character or some shit, I just find it so annoying. I swear it's the "hufflepuffs are goofy losers" all over again just because he happens to wear yellow. If anything he should be the "slytherin" one because he believes the strength of a pokemon comes from when they're hatched, aka " they're just born better" kek
No. 162679
>>161501Late but Majima should have just been gay, too bad Sega are just too cowardly and homophobic for that.
>>161547MajiMako was horribly written and detrimental to both characters, cry about it.
No. 162944
>>162392I've seen people use this argument against gay ships too, as long as it gets in the way of their own gay OTP (always in the name of "good LGBT representation").
When a
problematic ship is popular enough people will go incredible lengths to defend it and explain how it actually isn't
toxic at all, and then call out other shippers because the characters they ship yelled at each other this one time. People online learned they can't make you feel bad for enjoying something they don't, so now they have to resort to moral superiority to gang up on people. You can thank purity culture for that, kek
No. 170774
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Since there's a lot of trans fanon hate here, might as well post Mettaton here too. I know that he originated as a ghost and are referred as they/them in the game but Mettaton is referred as he/him. So he's a guy right? He's never female, has tits or pussy in the first place. Is because he's flamboyant and somewhat feminine looking? Also all his cuntboy porn is gross too.
No. 171357
>>170774I've mentioned this somewhere before (the bad art thread maybe?) But if Mettaton is meant to be trans (he's not but let's just assume for the sake of argumentation), the messages being sent through his story don't exactly jibe with the TRA narrative. He abandons his family so he can trick the government into making his friend the royal scientist, all so he can get a human-like body. Then, after he embarrasses and betrays her, Alphys still finishes his new body! At the end of the story, he realizes how selfish he was and returns to his family. In the credits, he's shown using his box form again. Basically the story portrays his quest for a human body (which is motivated mainly by a desire to be a celebrity, not because he hated being a ghost) as selfish, and his arc is completed at the end when he realizes his family is more important. In real life, the trans community encourages people to cut off their families and even congratulates it.
As far as fans go, it's pretty obvious what's happening here. TiFujoshis think he's hot and want to skinwalk him. That's 99% of why characters get headcanoned as FtM.
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Just started Tiger King 2 last night and it reconfirmed for me 1) I hate Amerifats and 2) you have to be fucking retarded to genuinely believe Carole Baskin killed Don Lewis. Even in the first series as soon as they mentioned that he had a Cessna he would fly back and forth to Costa Rica and go low to avoid the radars it was obvious he was involved in some shady shit. Either he crashed on the way or he got on the wrong side of a gang and is rotting in a banana plantation somewhere. Carole knows he’s dead but if she confirms that the park and cats will be seized as the proceeds of whatever crimes her husband was committing.
The absolute peak of the misogynistic hypocrisy is the fact that people want Carole to answer for a death that she’s never legally been tied to, meanwhile Joe got his two husbands hooked on drugs and basically kept them shut in at the park, resulting in one of them killing himself at 23. Where are the flag wavers calling for justice for Travis Maldonado? Disgraceful.
No. 171460
>>171392yep basically. but interestingly enough shiv doesn’t get the same treatment and is kind of demonized. hmm i wonder why that could be.
also people are genuinely surprised about greg’s lack of moral compass because they thought he was like this class revolutionary or something even though from day one he’s been an opportunist and product of nepotism
No. 171565
>>171558lmao mte
nonnie I hate the fandom interpretation of Carole
No. 171985
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I hate how people treat Chara as an innocent and misunderstood character. We don't even know if your reason for hating humanity is valid. People blame the player for his actions, as if we were the ones who chose Chara to act like a dick when he was alive.
No. 172004
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this is for the ffxiv fags itt but i absolutely hate the fanbase misinterpreting G'raha Tia as some soft bean, skinny submissive ass twink or straight up as some helpless child when he's actually one of the most brilliant minds to appear in the story. Not going to go into spoiler territories but god, they saw him having some cute quirks and made it his entire character.
No. 331693
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What the fuck is wrong with people? What's with the obsession of sticking Dante and Vergil together all the time? Why Dante was quiet in dmc2? Because he missed Vergil. Why Dante went back to his dmc3 dickhead persona in dmc4? Because Nero reminded him of Vergil. Why Dante was whatever he was in anime? Because killing Vergil in dmc1 made him depressed. Why Dante was so pathetically miserable in dmc5? No Vergil no fun. I don't get it. Why they keep seeing Dante as some depressed loser, always missing his psychotic brother? If anything dmc1 Dante was supposed to be obsessed with his mother more than Shitgil. That's still pretty pathetic but as if being a brocon is any better kek. Saving Trish in dmc1 was said in side materials that it made Dante feel the joy of living once again. But nooooo, Dante still sad because Vergil died! Please cry! Ironically, the "momma boy" aspect of him also vanished since dmc3 and got replaced with Vergilwank, the fucking game where Vergil had his "official" personality. Vergil is a shit character and should've stayed dead. No I don't care about that self-pity manga vision of v about him
No. 331750
>>159422I know this is old but, ah yes, a series where bigfoot, a floating yellow triangle from another dimension, Monika from DDLC, a bear with many heads, literal zombies, mermaids and other supernatural beings exist and yet they focus on how unrealistic it is that two identical twins are the same sex. Do they think the target audience could spell "sesquizygotic"?
>Dipper isn't his real name.Yes, it's mason. Do nicknames not exist anymore?
>Wears a shirt to the pool Girl he hasn't even gone through puberty yet, are you implying he has boobs and wears a binder for it under his shirt? Also, shirts in pools aren't uncommon. Grunkle Stan also wore a shirt to the pool. Is he trans too?
>Is insecure about his voice>Gets upset when he has to do "girly" stuff>He gets upset when he's not called a man in multiple episodesHe wants a deeper voice to impress Wendy and he's a typical insecure teenager (tween?), plus that's such a common reaction from teenage boys when they're not manly enough. They obviously didn't see how violent and offended moids get when they do something "girly" and how they call each other gay all the time as an insult. Plus, in the end of the episode where he was trying to prove his masculinity, he realized it's better to just be himself.
>He's always liked the name Tyrone (a male sounding name)KEK
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>>171985Seriously, Chara is objectively a bad person even if it is the player's fault for monster-killing like in the Genocide Route because it's still
Chara that makes the choice to destroy the entire in-game world, which kills Frisk (a separate character) in the process. You start the Genocide Run, but it's
Chara that makes the choice to
finish it. Fans of this game always miss this because they want to believe that Chara is just some misunderstood, abused person. But if they used their heads, they should realize that if the player is to blame for the Genocide ending, Chara shares that fault too.
No. 331873
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i bitched about them in the video game thread but their fans have a massive holier-than-thou complex. they all hate each other, have been groomed since birth to die for their king, every female character's support is about how their shitty dads are trying to sell them off. they're fine as indiivdual characters but as a group, they represent the ''found family'' trope in its most obnoxious form
No. 331880
>>331693All the things you're complaining about is because Trish is considered Hideki Kamiya's character so none of the current writers feel like making her important to not piss him off or make her too OOC. Even though Kamiya doesn't seem to really care as long as the games are good. I wonder how the series would have been if DMC2 didn't happen and wasn't developed behind Kamiya's back.
>>331873>but their fans have a massive holier-than-thou complexAll FE3H are retarded in general, best thing to do is to never interact with the fanbase online. This also applies to all the other characters and not just these ones. And to the other Fire Emblem games. When 3H got released and everyone debated over Edelgard being a piece of shit or a cute waifu who did nothing wrong (she's the villain for sure) or Dimitri being sexist ("he doesn't just kill women, he MURDERS them") or Claude being bisexual or queerbait (because god forbid a man wears earrings I guess) I got so fed up I stopped interacting with fandoms in general kek.
No. 331891
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>>331880metrosexual claude making people seethe is funny kek.
No. 331927
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>>331880I didn't really focus on Trish. Should've worded it better. I meant the "dead Vergil sad Dante" is a thing dmctards love to include everytime they write an essay/analysis/personal thought when talking about the brothers on tumblr/reddit and Dante's "mommy issue" is about game's writing. The former isn't supposed to be confirmed but it's also not surprising fans headcanon like that since after dmc1 Dante was consistently portrayed as some lazy, unmotivated and apathetic clown if the problem doesn't relate to Vergi- I mean his family matters. I hate the fuck out of this headcanon because I think it undermines the hopeful ending of dmc1 and unfairly makes Dante more pathetic. Even worse, such headcanon still exists because it's somewhat supported by shit writting in post dmc1 games and side materials (anime, dmc5 prequel novel, visions of v…)
>Trish is considered Hideki Kamiya's character so none of the current writers feel like making her important to not piss him off or make her too OOC. Dante and Vergil are also Kamiya's characters, didn't stop Itsuno making them what they are nowadays. Even Trish's shred of innocence in dmc1 also disappeared and replaced with superficial girlboss attitude in newer games. Dante since dmc3 never once seen thinking about his mother anymore, despite her death was originally his reason to become a demon hunter: to take revenge on demons. Eva was only mentioned in dmc5 because her death related to Vergil's pathetic tantrum "Nooooooo I want mommy to save me!". They don't respect Kamiya that much as you think. Mommy issue is
problematic but obsession with your sibling is good! See how much people are happy and clapping when Dante and Vergil fighting like manchildren in hell! Who fucking cares Vergil genocided an entire city out of his seething with Dante, amirite!
No. 332052
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The fandom is completely filled with these takes that excuse everything Astarion does or says. Oh no, he isn't bad bad, he is just confused and traumatized! ffs he isn't some misunderstood character, he can be evil and sadistic while simultaneously being a victim to someone else. In the artbook it's stated that he was corrupt and power hungry before turning, if they needed confirmation that Astarion wasn't a saint before Cazador, it doesn't mean he deserved to be tortured, but it shows he isn't just being mean as a result to his trauma. Sometimes he is mean simply because he wants to. Unironically think he would hate people babying him and treating him like he is some sort of retard that can't differentiate between good and bad. picrel is mild compared to some other things I've read, but I refuse to deep dive into reddit just to get a sc.
No. 335281
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while I liked The Batman, I hate what its likely forever possibly done to the riddler in every fandom space, it seems he will forever be perceived as redditor Incel and also a personal trans idol tons of touch starved bl addicted aydens aspire to be.
No. 335290
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>>335281Anon, it's the Batman franchise. There are like a trillion interpretations of the characters due to the nature of the franchise always rebooting itself. I honestly hate all movie adaptations of Batman because i hate tacticool gritty shit. Batman should stay as a cartoon/comic.
No. 335379
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>omg he's a hecking disaster bisexual
No. 403982
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No. 403991
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There's a shitton in this fandom in general, but everything about this character.
No. 403999
>>335281Omg i just wanted to find some normal fanfiction about riddler and literally anyone and it was all either he's trans, he's fat, or fat and trans. What the hell?!
I found only one normal one in the end.
No. 404001
>>403991I feel your pain. Bg3 has some fun and interesting characters, but the fandom loves to just pull nonsense out of their asses and then act like it's 100% true and canon. Wonder if it's because a lot of people experienced the game through watching streamers or just jumping in to the fandom because it's popular, because some of the things I've seen bandied around as gospel border on being delusional kek.
>>403982This gave me war flashbacks to an ancient write-up of how Megatron in the Michael Bay movies was 'feminised' in each subsequent film and it was some masculine good guy man vs feminine bad guy man thing. Was bonkers, but pretty popular on tumblr at the time kek
No. 404026
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i hate june egbert so much. had an essay typed up but deleted it
No. 404031
>>404025The queer coding of villains is a huge thing that theoretically applies to a ton of villains.
Think about your prototypical Disney villain, like Scar, Hades, Ursula: a lot of them wear flamboyant clothes, a lot wear makeup or eyeliner even if male, and a lot of them speak in a super campy dramatic fashion. Ursula is based on a real-life drag queen iirc.
Not lesbian or bi myself, but afaik, some people enjoy and embrace this stereotype, while others take offense to it.
No. 404037
>>404031sometimes I can understand (or even agree with) this kind of interpretation, but other times I feel like a lot of villain tropes stem more from classical theatre/opera and the flamboyance becomes a bit of a chicken or egg type scenario when trying to work out what came first, and what is considered camp or flamboyant changes over time and also falls in and out of favour. Idk. it's more complicated than just 'flamboyant charismatic Disney villain = gay', as it makes a lot of assumptions and can often go hand in hand with the sort of analysis that is more about slotting the author into the discussion/making it about their pet issues rather than much about what's in the actual text. Those Disney villains are all also from films with musical numbers, which are imo always campy, you don't really see people bringing up, say, the villains from Tarzan/Treasure Planet/Lilo & Stitch etc when talking about this kind of stuff kek.
It's also one of those concepts that has escaped containment, with some people taking it so onboard that they assume ALL villains are 'queer-coded', without thought or nuance, which is tiring to deal with and also has people linking psychopathic war-criminals with real-life LGB people, ignoring their own unfortunate implications– it's a bloody circle kek
No. 404038
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So many people write or draw him as an incompetent crybaby woobie who speaks in long sentences with super complicated words.
No. 404059
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>>404031what
>>404037 said, but also many of the 'queer' villains people point too, emerged during a period when Disney's two biggest creatives were gay men. like Ursula was initially intended to be a more serious and brooding villain, but it was Howard Ashman who played a key role in transforming her into design resembling a drag queen, even directing her personality into a confident old diva
No. 404095
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Nearly every fan interpretation makes him this misunderstood daddy dom wanting to be “fixed”. I don’t understand how people could interpret him as sympathetic when the writers themselves confirmed he was an irredeemable freak who only cared about violence.
No. 404099
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>>404096Zenos from FFXIV. He’s a butterface in-game though kek.
No. 404108
>>404105>sodomizedHe’s a
cuntboy according to fans.
No. 404174
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>>404173picrel is Hades original concept
No. 421113
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does this count?
No. 433776
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No. 433855
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Literally every single character in this series but especially Majima. Despite being the so-called "fan favourite" hardly anyone actually even tries to understand him as a character. No, he's not a tranny of either kind, he's not gay, he's not a daddy dom, he's not an uwu baby who did nothing wrong, he's not literally evil, he's not a sigma male, he's not a moid self insert. He's a cluster bi self-loathing submissive masochist with a shitfuckton of trauma and mental illness that stems from it but ultimately a deeply tainted good heart. He's more or less inspired by Masao Kakihara from Ichi the Killer. He has the Hannya tattoo for a reason, and it's not the one TRAs think.
Other dishonourable mentions
>0-onlyfags "0 is the best game you don't need to play the others they all suck!!!"
>fed-sympathizing daidojitards, especially the self-proclaimed "anti-imperialist leftists" (lmao)
>speaking of, those who deny Morinaga and Hanawa being the same person (he is)
>also those who deny "Hanawa"/Morinaga too being a Daidoji slave (he is)
>people who deny Mine being in love with Daigo (he is)
>people who think Mine is 200% gay homo and having any kind of hetero thoughts of him is "homophobia" (controversial thought time but Mine's a whole ass bisexual, and a cluster bi ofc)
>Daigo haters (no, he is not "weak" you powerscaling fucktards)
>Mirei haters (literally just misogynists tbh)
>Baba haters
>Shinada haters
>3-5 and also 8 haters in general (yes, those games are flawed but the hate in the western fandom is way overblown lbr)
>Ichiban haters
>Ebina haters (no, he's not "literally Hitler", unless you believe those tinfoils that Hitler was secretly a Jew who was brainwashed to turn against his own kind but even then it's not a good comparison)
>both the "Ryuji did nothing wrong" and the "Ryuji did everything wrong" faggots
>same as above for Shishido
>same as above for Kuwana
>same as above for every single playable character and final boss as well
>people who think "Nishitani III" had any genuine love for Watase or Shishido
>people who dismiss Watase as a dumb brute
>people who call Aizawa and Morinaga "pointless" (you can argue that they were underutilized in 5 and I don't disagree with that but they definitely have their point)
>people who think Kurosawa "loved" Aizawa
>people who think Goda "loved" Ryuji
>people who think Kazama "loved" any of the kids at the Sunflower Orphanage
>Kazama and Goda sympathizers in general
>Mitamura sympathizers
>people who hate Date or Sayama or Tanimura or Adachi because "reeeee cops!!"
>people who think everyone or anyone for that matter is a gay tranny
>moids who self insert onto the protagonists
>moid waifufags (related to the point above)
>people who compare the Ichiban games to Persona 5
>people who take the "male fantasy" memes too seriously (if only they knew who the greatest chunk of the actually dedicated Japanese fanbase is made up of)
>people who say they're "tired of Kiryu" and want him to die (wtf is wrong with those people)
>people who don't see the point in caring about the more minor characters
I often wonder how much of the fanbase, especially the western fanbase, actually bothers to play the games. Not just play the games, but actually sit through all the cutscenes and give a shit about the story and characters. It seems the vast majority of the western fanbase doesn't even like the games at all, they only like a deeply distorted version they get through shitty OOC fanworks and memes.
No. 433911
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From the character transwashed:
>Loves to have a dandy and fancy life-style free of fighting, something his clan is quite known for.
>Choose the way of art rather than fighting, even if in other clans men can be free to read or draw or write like in Ancient China. He's just unlucky his clan is focused on fight.
>Still, he's quite intelligent, can move people like puppets and hide himself with a "I don't know shit" mask.
>And even then, he's quite strong even if he doesn't use a sword/sable and he always carry a metal fan that can beat someone with.
>Is sorta common to see in some MDZS/CQL fic/fanart, he's a trans guy/non-binary sassy gay trans for the reasons I mention.
There are strong women in the whole book, dammit! Do you think Huaisang would hide herself as man to get education or shit like that? This is not like in Mulan.
No. 434355
>>433785The people who got mad the frightened expressions during the ascended Astarion romance scenes are the most entertaining bunch to be honest. I got banned from a discord for saying "yeah the original intent was him to become
abusive toward tav" and they got mad like I pissed on their grandma's grave. It's quite impressive how many people just turn into braindead fangirls just because they were presented a flamboyant vampire lmao
No. 434437
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People are already starting to get annoying about this and are calling him nonbinary as if this isn't just Araki reconfirming what we already knew, that Dio is a frilly fruity bifag.
No. 434445
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People who unironically believe she’s a pedophile should get the rope. Literally 0 reading comprehension and depth of thought.
No. 434452
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>>434437>>434449Gender symbol on newly released character sheet.
No. 434469
>>433911Agreed, it's a really fucking dumb and shallow interpretation, the reason why he's acts like a useless artsy dandy and doesn't like fighting is specifically because the way his clan fights is fucked up.
How could people not tell? It straight up says that he's wearing a mask.
No. 434572
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>>434469My man took his time to caught a bird, but he fainted in the Wen clan because "he's weak". He's quite smart, and even in the movie is explained that NMJ has the strength and NHS has the intelligence.
But claiming he's a TIF to get into art/not fight is stupid af. The clans had women learning arts, fight and magic, is not like in Mulan where men ruled all and Mulan had to disguise herself as man to save his father to go to war.
No. 453115
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No. 453560
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He's supposed to be a pompous yet chaotic mad scientist, not a depressed angsty uwu gay boi who's in love with Cortex. It's
>>404025 all over again. I love him but he's ugly and sadly TiFs love to latch onto ugly villain men to turn them into tumblr slop.
No. 456307
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this is about sasuke
No. 456815
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No. 457788
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No. 459551
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This is more like "Secondary interpretations you hate" because I'm sure Stocking's haircut and still screenshots are what people go off of to depict her as aloof, distant and bored, despite being so silly and cute in the show. Like at worst she's mean to leering strangers (based) or tells her sister off when she's being dumb (also based). Seeing her drawn that way, described as stoic, compared to the likes of Homura, Satsuki, Vergil, etc., it feels like I'm being gaslit
No. 461389
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This shit absolutely infuriates me. It's so hard to find female characters like McGonagall who are consummate professionals, intelligent and stern but still positively depicted. Her canon characterisation was great precisely because JKR made her tough and gruff and didn't give in to the clichés of giving her a warm and fluffy side.
And what do fandom retards do? turn her into some ugüüü mommy who's just dying for a chance to baby their favourite scrote character. (Snape in this instance, but i've see other retards write shit where the maruders call her auntie minnie or some shit and she lets them). That is NOT what she's about, fucking hell that's assassinating her entire character.
No. 464184
>>461389>This shit absolutely infuriates meCome on now. Getting
triggered by somebody posting their OOC art? Not every fanwork has to follow canon.
No. 464190
>>464184ayrt and yeah it pisses me off when my fave character gets butchered. that happens quite a bit in fanart and fanfic, beyond the specific pic i used as example.
which is why i posted about it here.
this is the "fandom interpretations you hate" thread, don't read it if you don't want to see people rant about how much they hate a specific fandom interpretation.
No. 464267
>>461389Minerva wouldn't be this way, she never acts THAT motherly to anyone, she behaves like a strict but somewhat compassionate aunt more than anything. Also, Severus Snape would not allow her to baby him. Neither of them would allow this.
That said, Madame Pomfrey said Snape was whiny as hell when he's sick. But I don't know if I take that as canonical.
No. 482732
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Bumping the thread to sperg out about the fact that I always hated this stupid joke/interpretation that Yukari is insecure about her age and insists that she's 17.
Yukari is a youkai and thousands of years old, but this joke feels so out of character for her personality. Yukari feels beyond a simple insecurity like this, if anything she would probably be proud of how old and wise she is. She feels like one of those women that would take being called old as a compliment kek.
I think a dumb meme like this spreading is one of the biggest indications that most 2hu fans are unfortunately dumbass men.
No. 482733
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>>482732You're so right. It's definitely just because moids think "haha woman old"! Yukari would 100% like you said not give a shit about this. She's basically an eldritch being that crafted an maintains an entire alternative dimension and moids seriously think she cares about being old. I love Yukari kek
No. 482742
>>482732iirc I think it started as a reference to a seiyuu (Yukari Tamura) who does the whole "eternally 17" thing as a gimmick, but that's some deep oldfag lore knowledge that newer fans definitely don't know that and run with the whole "lol hag" nonsense.
>>482734It's clear moids don't play the games or read source material based on how they joke about characters, there's lots of funny shit one could joke about based on canon but they just throw tropey jokes at the wall and hope it sticks. They're the real secondaries.
No. 482766
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>>482733It will never stop being frustrating to me that men see an interesting character with amazing lore and take her personality and turn it into a fetishy masturbatory device. If some moid come up to Yukarin and started talking "ugghhh HAG, mommy ugghhh" nonsense, she would laugh in his fucking face, maybe send Ran on him if he gets too annoying.
>>482734>All for the sake of shitty scrotey jokes about female stereotypesZun certainly isn't an angel, I love him and he almost never sexualizes the girls but he did minor weird shit like call Flan a loli once. But I really love him for how he writes his characters, he always treats them with a certain level of respect and decorum and doesn't resort to blatant anime tropes often. The only example of him doing that, that I can really think of, off the top of my head is Urumi being cow themed and having bigger breasts than the other girls. But it's not too big of a deal imo.
>or insecure about the size of their breasts (Sakuya)Agreed but speaking of Sakuya, I hate the joke about her being a lolicon because it's blatant ooc wishfulfillment for scrotes.
>>482742>I think it started as a reference to a seiyuu (Yukari Tamura) who does the whole "eternally 17" thing as a gimmickI actually didn't know that nonna, thank you for sharing that knowledge.
>the whole "lol hag" nonsenseThe hag thing makes me really mad, because it's both scrotes actively sexualizing a woman, while also degrading her at the same time. And I am aware that being old isn't degrading but the way these men use it certainly has the intention of being degrading.
I can kind of tolerate Japanese fans calling her Babaa though, it essentially means the same thing but I just find it cuter. No. 482773
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>>482732Touhou as a whole has a lot of gross mischaracterizations, as
>>482734 said. I hate when the women are interpreted as perverts the most.
No. 482881
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Moids have turned Stannis into a mythical badass who can do no wrong and is the one true king of Westeros and who is actually their real daddy who won't make them stop jerking off and go to bed. He would not make a good king. None of the characters would be good kings. AGOT, whether intended or not, is all about how monarchy doesn't work, how all it does is lead to pain and suffering and utterly destroys everyone who 'plays the game' (even the winners).
The only reason why the Targs were able to hold onto the pointy chair for so long was because of their dragons (essentially WMDs and they still lost to a determined and entrenched native force using guerilla warfare against them) and inertia. What can Stannis do, honestly, with his negative -100 speech skill, the stick so far up his ass that he sleeps standing up, and his sickly female heir whom he's neglected for years and who he sacrificed for nothing in the TV show? Jack shit.
Stannis is a loser, and his fans project onto him because they too feel slighted by other people 'upstaging them' (Bobby B, infamous rapist and wife beater) or 'taking what's theirs' (Renly, infamous faggot and more equipped to be king than Stannis). He's bitter, and they're bitter.
The text doesn't support Stannis as the once and future king of Westeros, not in the slightest, and I like him better as this grumpy asshole who's convinced he's right and shits everything up for everyone else because of it.
No. 483396
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Love the character, can’t fucking stand how much the general fandom (mostly moids) prop him up at the most important person in the entire story, at the expense of every single other character in the entire legendarium.
Even worse, using him to shit on the rest of the heroes, especially Frodo, because he’s more “masculine” (can physically fight, gives all the big speeches, and has a lot of kids) and they self insert as him because Aragorn/legolas and other warrior characters are too OP.
Not only is it a complete misinterpretation of a character who seeks little to no glory, but the scrotes who gargle his balls refuse to actually pick up any of his positive traits like modesty and loyalty. They love the version of Sam they made up in their own heads, not realizing he’d hate their asses for shitting on the person he values the most.
No. 483819
>>483442Moids: women don’t understand Tolkien! All we want is to express their emotions openly like our favorite characters but women just accuse us of being gay!
Sam/Aragorn: I adore my wife. I’d never dream of purposefully disrespecting a woman. I don’t glorify violence and the only reason I fight is to keep my loved ones safe. All I really want is peace and gardening and healing people. Also I would literally die to protect the Ringbearer.
Moids: ew I hate Frodo he’s such a weak faggot! Sam is so cool because he FUCKS! Aregorn is a CHAD, faramir is a cuck! WOMEN don’t understand friendship, hobbits aren’t gay, brown elves bad,Tolkien would hate you bc Catholicism (but sexualized shelob in the video games get a pass because penis hard!!)