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No. 582933

Not everyone can be beautiful, and for some, even "average" is out of reach. If that sounds like you, how are you coping in this looks-obsessed world?

Previous thread: >>378181

No. 582934

Knowing my race is ugly makes me suicidal. Why couldn't I born as white? I will never know what feeling like a woman is. What female experiences are like. Or really anything related to it. Imagine looking at the mirror and having that type of flesh, bones, body… I will never feel human enough. I will never feel like me or be me. People in asia just looks like monkeys whether they have light skin or not. Why couldn't I born white? Why me? Why my life has to be worthless and joyless? No suprise people in here kill themselves so much.(racebait)

No. 582935

have a beautiful soul, grow in virtue and goodness, unironically

No. 582936

>>582934
You aren't ugly for your race. Many white women like monkeys. We are all related to them. There are ugly whites and beautiful asians I don't know how ugly you actually are but it's not because of your race.

No. 582937

>>582935
Get raped(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 582938

>>582936
Some losing the genetic lottery doesn't count. There's no genetic lottery in here to begin with lol. Please stop gaslighting me. All people who aren't white but considered attractive have eurocentric features and a facial bome structure similar to caucasian europeans

No. 582939

>>582934
Unironically, get a hobby. Preferably something where you create stuff with your hands like pottery or embroidery. Alternatively, take part in a team sport.
There is more to womanhood than appearance. Work on your skills, give back to your communuty, nurture the young children around you, and focus on being the best version of yourself.
>>582935
I agree. Inner beauty lasts for life, whereas outer beauty is fickle and temporary.
I believe Roald Dahl put it best by saying,"If you have good thoughts they will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely."

No. 582941

>>582939
You son of a bitch this thread isn't for you. What having hobbies will do? How do you know I don't have hobbies? Stop gaslighting us and let us vent in peace you fucking moron

No. 582943

>>582938
White people look too red in the face half the time. Kek.
Please start loving yourself more and focus on things within your control. Life is too short for resentment and self-pity.

No. 582944

>>582941
The title of the post is "How to Cope with Being Ugly". So, I am giving you advice on how to cope with that. Don't you want a solution to your problem?
I am also convinced that your real problem is poor self-esteem. No self-professed "ugly" woman I have ever encountered is even remotely as hideous as she claims to be.
It pains me when normal-looking women hate themselves and harm themselves over such trivial issues.

No. 582948

>>582937
Now, you are just being nasty. Maybe you should take that nonna's advice. If you are truly that ugly, then being unpleasant will not help your case at all.

No. 582949

>>582944
Nta and I don't read/post itt but stop condescending people and stfu.

No. 582951

>>582939
It's a fun quote but I'm not taking advice from Roald Dahl aka nasty on the inside and also conventionally attractive moid probably

No. 582952

>>582938
Unironically this. Any woc seen as conventionally attractive are so because they're an anomaly with Eurocentric features. Wide eyes or small nose are not the norm with most woc who are seen as male and dirty due to it

No. 582954

>>582949
I would not have responded if the anon was not hostile.
I used to go through phases of self-loathing too, so I was simply sharing advice that worked for me.
Trust me, five years down the line, all these anons would look back at old pictures and realise that they looked fine. I know I did.

No. 582955

>>582952
In my country, wide eyes and small noses are common, and woc face more flak for skin color than anything else.
>>582951
>conventionally attractive
Kek. He looked alright for a bloke, nut nothing special.

No. 582956

>>582954
You know nothing about these anons. You're acting like you're doing them a favor but you're literally just condescending them. You aren't giving them groundbreaking or life-changing advice.

No. 582957

>>582955
Point is he wasn't hideously ugly. That's why he can say that. Also he was a classic ol' school misogynist

No. 582959

>>582938
Have you never seen a white person before? Everybody has the potential to be ugly. It's not your race making you ugly.

No. 582960

>>582956
I recognize their pattern of thinking though. They are not going through some unique struggle. Every woman under the sun has felt inadequate at some point in her life.
I recognize that my advice might seem generic, but that is only because it works. The simplest solution is often the most effective.
If you feel that your looks are not up to par, you can compensate for that by learning skills and honing abilities that would be useful for yourself and others. That way, you can still forge connections and get treated well despite not looking conventionally attractive. I think that is a better coping mechanism than wallowing in misery.

No. 582961

>>582959
So what? Nta but race not making one "objectively" ugly doesn't mean it doesn't affect how people view and treat them. Woc get seen as masculine dirty monkeys on a regular basis.

No. 582962

>>582959
Agreed. Many of them have wisps for hair and very red faces.
>>582957
>hideously ugly
Only 5% of people fall in that category, and even they can get by just fine if they apply themselves.
>ol' school misogynist
Not really. This was the guy that wrote Matilda after all. He is still leagues ahead of modern scrotes in terms of open-mindedness.

No. 582963

>>582962
>Not really. This was the guy that wrote Matilda after all. He is still leagues ahead of modern scrotes in terms of open-mindedness.
KEKKK you cannot be serious. If you read any other books you'd realise why

No. 582964

>>582961
The term woc is rather misleading. Most Asians and Latinas are now seen as desireable and feminine.
Black women admittedly have it bad, and it is rather unfortunate, as they have lovely skin and hair. I hope things change for the better for them.

No. 582966

>>582963
Only the book Witches seems vaguely misogynistic.
The rest of his books are very delightful and whimsical. I read all of them as a kid, and none of it ever seemed horrid. My nieces love his books too.
He wrote books for children, and so his villains were often adults and authority figures. Just because some of those characters were women does not mean that he was a misogynist. His depiction of plenty of men was just as bad.

No. 582968

>>582961
Who is "people" in this context?

No. 582969

>>582955
>woc woc woc
Stop using the word, it's repulsive. And no I can tell it's not about the skin color or else tanning wouldn't be a trend in europe. Having a white skin won't cancel a ethnic face
>>582959
>>582960
You're come off as so dumb I believe you're a troll atp

No. 582970

>>582964
Oh shut up no way black women have it bad. Even ugliest black woman shrilled as attractive by american media these days. Also I see tons of ugly black woman with good looking men so I'm convinced world only have a hate boner for us. Asians aren't seen attractive, it's just a few chronically online neckbeards that go for surgically altered botched ones. Latinas? Sounds like a hyperbole(racebait)

No. 582972

>>582969
>woc
Only used it because the other anon said that. I find the term annoyning too.
>not about color
Beauty standards are not universal, nona.
Fair skin is valued in my home country, because it signfies that the person was affluent enough to not have to resort to physical labor and farm work. It is also associated with higher castes there.
In European nations, white is the default, so tanned skin implies that the person is athletic and outdoorsy.
In my original comment, I had just wished to point out that wide eyes and thin noses are not specific to just white people. There is a lot more at play.

No. 582974

>>582970
Every guy has yellow fever nowadays

No. 582975

>>582970
Glad to know that black women seem to be doing better than I initially thought. Good for them!
>Asian
Japanesse, Chinese and Korean women are shilled heavily these days.
As for South Asians, most women seem to mix in just fine here in the US.
From what I have seen, plenty of guys tend to go for Latinas due to their curvier body types.

If anything, I can confidently say that women of every race are usually able to find their niche.
Just curious: what country are you from?

No. 582977

>>582969
You are replying to two anons. You also seem ESL, and have weird hang-ups about race. I think that I recognize you.

No. 582978

>>582972
Beauty is objective. Some asians having white features are an exception, can you even read? I don't know where you normies come from but at least let not try to fuck with our minds in here and let us share our pain without moralfagging and gaslighting us

No. 582980

>>582978
What "white" features? Hmm?
>>582974
Yes, and it seems rather sudden too. Is it just because of anime and "muh superior Nippon", or is there more to it?

No. 582981

>>582980
I'm convinced you're just retarded. I'm not going to reply to your posts further. You're not here with good intentions and keep trying to debate with me and my points are very clear. Just leave the thread for us uglies and leave, your posts are useless and doesn't add anything worthy to the conversation

No. 582983

>>582981
No, expand on what you mean by "white features".
>us uglies
Again, I can bet 20 dollars that you just look normal.

No. 582984

>>582962
>Matilda
>the book where the villain is explicitly a childless unmarried woman
How progressive.

No. 582987

>>582984
Ms. Honey is childless and unmarried as well, and she is depicted positively. Not to mention, depicting young girls as smart and capable was not as common back then, so Matilda was a decent role model.
Dahl's books have adult villains, usually in positions of authority. It makes sense that he made the Headmistress the bad guy.
She was demonized for her poor treatment of children, not due to her age or gender.
Matilda's father was also depicted as an absolute buffoon in the book, but you neglect to mention that.
At the end of the day, it is a bloody kid's book. Children enjoy stories where they can get one over their adult counterparts.

No. 582988

>>582984
Did you even read any of his books as a kid, or did you just form your opinion based on some college kid's cringe video essay?

No. 582993

>>582984
Trunchbull wasn't childless, Ms. Honey was her daughter

No. 582997

>>582993
She was her aunt, nonna.
It shouldn't matter if she was childless or not, her primary trait was being a bully.

No. 583000

>>582933
You know the woman in your picture wasn't born like this/ugly, she looked normal in her youth but later suffered from acromegaly which deformed her body because of the excessive amount of growth hormone. Everyone turned away from her because of this illness. She was a nurse and her name was Mary Ann Bevan. I think choosing her as the "face" of this thread was shitty

No. 583003

>>583000
Didn't she "perform" as the ugliest woman to get money for her kids? I have to respect that

No. 583068

Not sure if this is a bait thread or not but it would immensely help for us to know if we can find ways to ease mentally and soothe ourselves into accepting our hideousness…I’m ugly to average and I’d look to know how I can accept my looks. It has affected my in the dating world and because I’m neurodivergent it’s even worse.

No. 583071

>>583068
My personal advice is to avoid flashy styling because it only brings out ugliness even more and make it obvious you're ugly and trying to dress up and compensate. You'll just look funny and stand out in a bad way. Dress up more plainly or simply to not draw too much attention to your face. I think even makeup is a bad idea in this case because it just accentuate your features and might make you look off. Idk about dating, I want to say look for someone who is your looksmatch but maybe you have a higher standard, in that case you'll have to wait for someone who doesn't care about looks and likes who you are or something if that even happens.

No. 583072

>>583071
I know you meant well but is crying ok? Could you give me a digital hug

No. 583078

>>583071
NTA but I love flashy styling and it has nothing to do with trying to “compensate”, it’s what I’m naturally drawn to. I get compliments on my outfits regularly and I have a lot of fun searching through secondhand shops looking for buried treasure. I think it’s healthy to have something to be proud of appearance wise, if you are fashion inclined / artist it’s dumb to suppress your natural fashion inclinations just because of your face.

No. 583085

>>583068
Try to remain in shape. Even if you might not have a pretty face, having a good body can compensate for that.
Also, look into hairstyles and accessories that complement some of your better features, or disguise your worse features.
I can give some tips if you want specifics, but for that you would need to explain what all you find lacking in your appearance.
As for compensating mentally, I would like to reiterate my previous point once again: get a fulfilling hobby. It will enable you to meet and forge connections with people, and would be a source of pride too.
Finally, please understand that you are more than your looks. I am sure that you are a very kind and sweet woman. You deserve to feel comfortable in your own skin.
>neurodivergent
Same here, nonna. I am asexual however, so never looked into dating. Still, my sympathies are with you. I hope that you find your Mr. Right soon.

No. 583086

>>583072
NTA, but sending a warm hug and lots of good wishes.

No. 583087

>>583071
Hahaha poor advice. People treat me worse for being frumpy. Glittery makeup is prettier than none. Not that I wear any but if someone wanted to look better they should treat their accessorising process as an art.

No. 583088

>>583078
It depends. Flashy styling is usually appreciated by women, but it is not as well received by men.
At the end of the day, it is important to dress according to the occasion. That anon can choose to wear flashier stuff with friends, and more plainly when going on a date.

No. 583091

>>583087
Any type of make-up is horrid for your skin. I have never worn any, and have aged better than all my friends.
Women start wearing make-up to hide blemishes, which in turn causes them to break out more and have scaly and dry skin. They compensate for that by slathering more make-up. It is a vicious cycle.
Just lip-gloss and eyeliner would do, and even that is not strictly necessary.
Honestly, just eat right, avoid booze and smoking, and do not fall for any make-up or beauty trends. Pair that with a bit of exercise, and you will find that you already look and feel better than most people around you.

No. 583094

>>583087
Guess it struck a nerve or something. Ugly people in fancy clothing or with makeup look like clowns and everyone thinks that but tries to be nice about it and never say anything or go "I love your outfit/makeup!!!" but they only noticed it and felt the need to comment on it because it looks so strange. To me, Sabrina Carpenter is ugly and the makeup and outfits make it worse. She looks less ugly barefaced and frumpy, still ugly but just not clown status. I used her as an example because I can't think of anyone else who is ugly and dresses up flashly othet than that one Indian troon but it would be a bad idea to use him as an example. Short story long makeup and good fashion is for hot people.

No. 583102

>>583094
>Sabrina Carpenter
>Ugly
Her current style might be very unflattering, but she used to look decent earlier. Calling her ugly is a huge stretch.
>makeup and good fashion for hot people only
Meh, makeup is not good for anyone. As for "good fashion", that is highly subjective.
I think people should just wear whatever is practical and makes them feel comfortable.

No. 583106

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>>583094
I’m the flashy dressing anon. As an ugly person, I’ve been on the receiving end of plenty of fake pity compliments from women about my physical appearance, and I can recognize them easily. The compliments I get on my clothing from other women are very clearly genuine. I also have a hair cut I get compliments on a lot, one of the managers at my work asked if she could take a picture of how I cut the back of it because she wanted something similar and wound up taking the pic to her stylist. I think getting a haircut that suits your head and face shape is an underrated part of looking put together as an ugly person. I look 200x better with picrel as I did with any longer hairstyle.

Most women, unlike men, can appreciate cool fashion and styling as its own thing regardless of if the person wearing it is a bit ugly in the face.
The only thing I’d agree with you on is the makeup part. If you’re ugly, it’s best to go for a no makeup makeup look. I just fill in my sparse eyebrows, curl my lashes, and put a dab of brown eyeshadow at the outer corners of my lash line, and it really looks nice as opposed to more traditional makeup looks which look ridiculous on a face like mine. You don’t want to try to change your ugly features with makeup because it won’t work, you just want to fill in the features you do have like brows and lash line.

No. 583126

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>>583094
>Sabrina is ugly
>t.

No. 583148

>>583126
That girl in the pic is kind of cute tbh, she’d probably be pretty if she lost weight.

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>>583126
I'm the same height as Sabrina and probably lighter in weight too since I weigh 46 kg. She's ugly and looks unhinged and this is coming from a white woman lover. She just looks strange, sorry.

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>>583151
Seeing this on the front page was so startling, kek. I think she looks nice with darker hair, and would look better if she stopped doing the weird cakey makeup. This photo looks edited to hell and back, though, and the only unedited photos of her with darker hair of her as a kid and I'm not posting those.

No. 583155

>>583153
She only looks ok when she's not smiling. Her face is too short and "compact" for my tastes so I find her looks jarring a bit.

No. 583255

>>583151
She looks like the average white woman.

No. 583257

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>>583155
>Her face is too short
Got it, horse-face

No. 583301

>>583153
I always thought she was ugly but she looks amazing like this, damn

No. 583314

>>583153
Brown hair suits her so much better

No. 583339

>>583255
Nah white women can be cute, she's just not one.
>>583257
The autopedo defense squad is here(bait)

No. 583341

Report and ignore baiters.

No. 583348

>>583339
Not you bitches pretend to be hot in how to cope with being ugly thread. You're not fooling anybody. Also no she looks like average bong or german woman

No. 583363

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>>583348
Never said I was hot, but at least I don't look as weird as she does. She looks like the average plastic surgeried up bitch in my city. I'm not fond of that look and find it ugly. I doubt the average British or German lady has as much work done as Sabrina. You can't pretend picrel looks beautiful, she looks strange and off-putting.

No. 583389

>>583363
Take it to another thread. We have plenty that fit this type of sperging (women shilled as attractive you find ugly thread, for one), this thread is not one of them.

No. 583395

>>583389
Fair enough but the point was that ugly women wearing makeup and trying to look hot look weird and Sabrina is an example for me

No. 583419

>>583395
Yeah we didn’t get it the first 7 times. Here: >>>/g/580886 go have fun

No. 583476

>>583363
shes def not ugly, nor she would be without makeup. the image on the right is probably stage makeup or red carpet or sth so she looks maybe a bit too dolled up. u seem to be jealous. even if u find her unattractive no need to be so hateful in this thread(derailing)

No. 583509

>>583476
Why would I be jealous of Chucky's bride lmao, I just couldn't think of any other well known example that looks weird in makeup because the bare face is lacking other than her.(derailing)

No. 583588

>>583078
>I think it’s healthy to have something to be proud of appearance wise, if you are fashion inclined / artist it’s dumb to suppress your natural fashion inclinations just because of your face.
This. Everyone should dress in the way that makes them feel the best. I dress well because it makes me feel good about myself when my style is on point and I get tons of compliments. Dressing plain makes me feel frumpy, boring, and worse about myself. If at least my outfit is well put together, others seem to react much better to me.

No. 583610

I feel guilty for having a bishie husbando. I asked chatgpt to generate a looksmatch based on a photo of myself. Just picture the most stereotypical inbred incel school shooter, that's what it gave me.

No. 583620

not only am i ugly but i am obsessed with it and can't even be bothered to try looksmaxxing anymore because everything i tried failed, so now i just accept it. I accept being unloveable because women can only be loved if they are beautiful.

Ive accepted moids not wanting me or ignoring me or people getting mad at every mistake i make or my mental health not being taken seriously since im not a pretty dainty neurotypical girlie.

I wish the trufemcels subreddit still existed, i found solace in there and it got shut down, i have nowhere else to talk about being a femcel.

No. 583635

>>583620
You can try r/Foreveralonewomen maybe.

No. 583755

incoming blogpost
i hate that despite the fact that i have the potential to be cute, my self hate isn't enough for me to work my ass off to look better.
just what the fuck is wrong with me? why can't i just commit knowing i'm nearing my 30s and it will be harder to change? why the fuck am i like this? if i'd rather die than live as an uggo then why can't i just put in effort? why do i always fail if it brings me so much suffering

No. 584001

>>583620
What have you tried? Maybe you didn't put enough effort?

No. 584010

I wish I was a beautiful moid who could console and love you nonnas I'm sorry.

No. 584070

Does anyone else have what is considered a 'good body' but an ugly face? I've had people tell me they are jealous of my body (slim with decent curves). But my face is really ugly and asymmetric IMO so I can't take the compliment to heart. I feel like this just makes everything worse.

No. 584075

>>584070
I got this all the time growing up from family and friends. I just take it for what it is. IMO it's better to have something about myself that I know looks good to myself and to others than to have nothing.

No. 584081

>>584075
Right? It's worst because it's easier to fix your body by getting fit etc than it is almost impossible to fix a bad face

No. 584084

>>584070
Yes, me too. My body is nice but I literally have an ogre face. I almost wish my body at least matched the ogre aesthetic because I feel like it looks way goofier to be a petite thin hourglass with a jump scare face. I have had men start to catcall me and then stop and laugh when they see my face.

No. 584117

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>>584084
I will end them for you, nonna. We stick together. We protect our own.

No. 584128

>>584084
christ that happened to me once and pops back up all the time when I'm feeling good. I'm so sorry nona, men suck.

No. 584383

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You can't leave comments on this. Asking AI for critical face analysis is pointless, it's designed to talk you up.

No. 584689

>>582934
Samefag looking at women with white features really makes me realize how worthless my life is. They got hit, loved, cared, never been self conscious, didn't have to shave/wax, their ethnical ugliness wasn't a thing stucked into their mind 7/24, they never had to study to only look more white, they never had to cry about it for days and nights after realizing even surgery can't fix asian genes, they knew what being feminine was like, they could exist in public without doubting their humanity.. There's no fucking cope if you're asian or middle eastern, we're ugly as fuck, it's the bottom of the barrel. I stopped studying and almost dropped out of school because I realized what makes me ugly and how I'll never be feminine and pretty even with surgery. Borning as ethnic+female should be illegal. What did I do to suffer this much? My womanhood and humanity to be taken away from me? At least if I was a man I could get a job. And the worst part is my mother will never see me being happy or successful. Maybe if I had a white face she would love me and I could even hug her. I cry about it everyday. I won't have anything in life and my abilities and skills doesn't mean dogshit. There's no other option than killing yourself before it's getting too late because then you'll feel even more sad and cry and look back and suffer more this shit will only get worse and you will realize being an ugly female is a death sentence and fuck anyone who gaslights you, they're politically correct retards who are just virtue signalling. They don't know what's being you or been in your shoes. Anyway this is my last vent and I will stop shitting up this thread

No. 584694

>>584689
This made me sad to read. None of what you typed is true. Ethnic features aren't inherently ugly and being an ethnic woman doesn't mean your life is over. I hope you're able climb out of the muck and realize you're worth loving, nona.

No. 584732

i see the shallowness more in people and it makes me feel disgust towards them. I personally know women who have "modelled" and are tall & beautiful, it makes me so angry when i see how they talk about people shorter/uglier than them. They really believe they are superior. the good thing about being ugly - average looking is that you know which people are shallow and who to avoid. Plus, you dont have to worry about ageing, since you are already ugly - average looking anyway

No. 584735

>>584732
I actually think being shallow and judging people based on looks is a good thing. It can clean up society from dysgenic ugly people if they're always rejected. And most of the time the ugly people are pure evil, especially males. That's why I want to look good, can't judge others when I'm just as ugly. But I kinda agree on the aging angle. I already look like someone's aunt.

No. 584737

Sick and tired of this double chin fat face. I look so disproportionate. My jawline is fine if I stand neutral but all I need is to lean back. Just wanna put a magic needle in and squeeze it all out.

No. 584738

>>584735
Males are evil whether they're ugly or not

No. 584739

>>584081
The issue is is that you actually have to maintain an attractive body long term. I think that people hugely underestimate how unsustainable this can be. Especially for women who decide to have kids. I never had a particularly good body but having 3 kids fucked up any chance of that unless I stop stress eating because I'm so fucking tired and overloaded and have no fucking time for myself and get a mommy makeover from a reputable surgeon, which is not feasible any time in the near future. Society expects us to become mothers and to look hot when doing it and I'm so fucking over that shit.

No. 584785

>>584735
>most of the time the ugly people are pure evil
Kek what even

No. 584786

>>584739
You already made 3 mistakes, don’t make a fourth one by using your savings to get butchered by a mommy makeover surgeon. I’ve never once seen a result of that surgery that doesn’t look like frankenstien’s monster.

No. 584787

>>584689
So you really think none of the women around you of your race are beautiful? Zero of them? Sounds like your mother fucked you up or something because that is a deranged way to feel. You can be personally ugly but don’t blame it on your race, there are ugly as fuck people of every race.

No. 584788

>>584787
Deeply internalized self hatred.

No. 584793

I was never really attractive, just average, but I recently survived a pretty brutal assault that left me needing facial surgery and some nasty facial scars. I know the surgeons weren't for beauty, they just wanted my jaw to be functional again, but it looks terrible. My jaw looks horrible, and my chin is nonexistent now. I have the same general facial structure as Leafy. And the scars are so bad. My family tries to tell me that I look badass, but I know theyre just trying to make me feel better. The scar isn't one that looks cool, its nasty, keloid, and uneven. I am a wreck and trying to get used to my new reality. I'm in hell.

No. 584794

>>584793
I'm really sorry you had to go through that.

No. 584796

>>584793
the chin and the scars should both be easy to fix with another op, right? You yourself said that the surgeons were only worried about function. Shouldn't you have a cosmetic procedure done before you start tripping?

No. 584806

>>584796
I'm an amerifag, there is no way I'll be able to save up for cosmetic surgery living alone as a college student. If cosmetic surgery was such a simple thing to aquire, half the nonnas in this thread wouldn't be here. I hate that a moid can say he's a woman and get cosmetic facial surgery covered, but I have to pay 10,000+ USD to look presentable again

No. 584819

Cap

No. 584821

>>584735
This must be a bait

No. 585475

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I was going through old pictures of me at 18/19 and comparing them to recent pictures taken in the same angle (I am now 26) and I realized my face has really changed. I'm not talking makeup or styling, but the actual structure of my face, and I'm not sure how that's possible. The most noticeable change is that my mouth used to be very asymmetrical, one side was much lower than the other, like the emoticon that uses a slash / for the mouth. That seems to have magically corrected itself almost all the way. The second is that teenage fat has gone away and now my lower face looks significantly less droopy and puffy. My chin has also squared off and looks more chiseled whereas before it was completely round.

I am still noticeably ugly, and no one would ever say I'm attractive in any way, but in my late teens I was truly hideous. Like, I was the "hard to look at" type of ugly. I don't think I'm truly eyelash burning-ly hideous anymore. Everyone says people are most attractive at 18-22 and I tend to agree, but somehow that has NOT been the case for me. I didn't lose or gain any weight or make any other changes to myself or my life, so it's like I was a playdough sculpture that wasn't quite finished until I hit 25. Most of all I really don't understand how my mouth corrected itself though.

Picrel not super related but it came up when I searched for "play doh faces" and is so funny to me I am attaching it. I am imagining the sentence in the picture being read in the voice of Truffles from Chowder.

No. 586283

Normal looking people don’t appreciate it at all. Zero appreciation for how lucky they are.
>“Wahh why can’t I look like [insert tiktok egirl here] [insert celebrity here] [insert model here] life is so unfair!”
I will tear you limb from limb holy shit. You’re moaning about how you don’t look like 1% of super mega attractive people who have all gotten work done anyway while I’m here wishing I could be in the same league as 95% of everyone else, and I won’t even be able to have that. Literally the bottom 5% of people. The way my face is laid out is so borked that there isn’t even a plastic surgery that could improve it, even if I could work up the guts to. Meanwhile perfectly average or even pretty people are getting nosejobs to fix things that weren’t even problems in the first place. When even plastic surgery can’t help you you know you’re fucked. It is actually torture having to exist out in the world with this face and know there’s nothing I can do about it. Imagine wearing a bad Halloween mask that you can’t ever take off. That’s how I feel.

No. 586395

>>586283
I disagree honestly. I'm ethnic so I'm the bottom %1 but I wouldn't want to look average. Women from my family is white and pretty. They have some really good features like naturally flushed plumpy lips that everyone seems to go after these days. I know I would look hot if I didn't inherited my father's genes. But yeah when you're ugly even average looking people's lives come off luxurious. They don't have to hide behind walls to exist

No. 586475

this thread should probably be renamed to "living as an ugly woman" or something, i don't think many anons who frequent these ones actually want to cope/feel better judging by the way anons get treated if they offer actual advice

No. 586515

I think only cope is living as a man. You won't get anywhere as an ugly woman, no matter what. Transitioning into a man is the only way to elevate in society as an ugly female as it's always been. I read about james barry recently and it clicked to me

No. 586534

>>586515
Jesus what a defeatist and pathetic mindset, go ahead and transition then, have fun

No. 586548

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I want to have a beautiful, blue-eyed daughter. When I have the money to have children, I'll probably turn to a sperm and egg donor. I want to have children; I don't want to be a cat mom. I want my daughter to be something I can never be. Picrelated egg donor.(bait)

No. 586567

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>>583153
High contrast coloring is always superior.

No. 586572

>>586515
Depends on what your metric of successful is, but IMO any meaningful metric of success is not dependent on appearance.
There are plenty of successful and ugly women in the world. I agree ugly women have to work harder than ugly men do to be successful, but it's not out of reach. You should be more concerned about discipline, social skills, studying, etc.

No. 586583

I find it genuinely insane how obsessed people are with looks, especially womens'. Most of those women trying to bash and dissect other womens' looks will end up with a man far worse looking that the women they try to insult the looks of too which makes it even worse. They aren't actually picky about aesthetics, they're just being misogynistic.

No. 586595

>>586515
James Barry didn't transition to escape ugliness, you moron. "You won't get anywhere" just makes you sound retarded, at least be honest about what ugliness entails, because I promise you no woman is being gatekept from university because of ugliness. You can be ugly with a good education and a good job, I promise you. I'd say in the realm of science there is no winning for women appearance wise. You're either ugly and therefore can't network as easily/ are invisible or you're beautiful and are constantly scrutinized and not respected.

No. 586597

>>586515
trannies are hated way more than ugly women the fuck are you on. you will have more opportunities as a mid woman than a tranny

No. 586625

>>586597
>mid
not disagreeing but "mid" describes the majority of the population, this thread is for people who are actually ugly, not just average.

No. 586654

>>586534
I'm actually offering a solution
>>586572
Go fuck yourself you normie scum. Shoo!
>>586595
Didn't said she did you fucking moron. Nobody here gives a fuck about your npc takes
>>586597
Transphobia only exist if you don't pass(infight bait)

No. 586999

does anyone else find themselves beautiful even though others don't? i'll sound like i'm coping or an agp but i'm attracted to myself no matter what kek

No. 587048

>>586999
I'm the opposite; I have had others tell me I look nice, and have had guys flirting with me on occasion. The only issue is that it feels patronizing, pitying, and the guys typically only come my way with bad intentions. So I don't have an objective measurement. Plus I find a lot wrong with my looks.

No. 587055

>>587048
>the guys typically only come my way with bad intentions
all moids have bad intentions, that doesn't reflect your level of attractiveness. nona if i can love myself while being widely considered ugly, i hope you too can love yourself one day

No. 587056

If I wasn't ethnic and ugly I could have a cute dutch bf

No. 587384

Being less on social media, stop being such a people pleaser and cutting off people who are superficial has helped me alot with my insecurities. If someone hates me for my appearance, then that is their problem. Why would i want the approval of such people anyways? Ive been treated badly for how i look, but i know those people are often very miserable with themselves. No one who is happy with their lives would judge someone harshly based on just how they look.
>>587056
im brown and live in europe, it is very embarassing to see posts such as these. All races are beautiful and i think wanting someone from a specific ethnicity is gross. you're not that different from white men who go to southeast asia to find a "trad" wife. seriously, stop the self hating i hope you all realise how retarded you sound when you say cringey shit like this.

no one is going to have respect for you if you dont even have respect for yourself. In middle school, i got bullied but stood up for myself and then the bullying stopped and people left me alone & were nicer to me.

No. 587388

>>586597
Trannies have “opportunities” because they’re not human anyway. So you could beat the shit out of them who cares

No. 587389

>>587384
Don't care, want 9 dutch husband

No. 587391

>>587389
Dutch oven

No. 587392

The only hope is not to focus on your looks. A part of me believes you are all average with huge body dysmorphia. Looks fade anyway that’s why you can’t base your entirety on it. Once it’s gone what then? The only ugly ones here with no hope is trannies/moids. I see looksmaxxing moids and nothing changes. All the popular ones had surgery. At best they raise their ego living through beautiful people. Using their images as dolls to play with

No. 587393

>>587392
>>587388
Fuck off you stupid moronic terf. This thread isn't for you to screech about your obssesion with dicks. Go fuck yourselves, jump off a bridge etc. You narc fucks just can't make one female space about you can you?(a-logging)

No. 587394

Wow the baiting faggot immediately deleted when he got no attention

No. 587396

>>587393
Nobody said anything about dicks but i get its on your mind24/7

No. 587397

>>587396
Fuck. OFF. Go to 2X or shit. Some of us look like man, but according to you bitches we don't exist or are just punching bags. You proves troons to be right everytime you open your fool little cunt mouth(ban evasion)

No. 587399

Why all ethnic insecurity leads to humiliating yourself on the internet? Most beautiful ethnics dont deal with this problem. Why the only cope is focusing on yourself without others in mind

No. 587401

>>587397
Like any moid you chimp out. Maybe that’s why you spend all day on female forums for bait

No. 587403

>>587401
Im not a moid you dick obssesed hag slut. Leave this thread alone. We don't need more ugly old woman to tell us just stick up some daisy in and life will be beautiful again kek(ban evasion)

No. 587404

>>587403
No woman would complain about terfs. Only the one groomed by troons

No. 587413

>>587403
>claims not to be a moid
>upset after seeing “you could beat the shit out of trannies who cares”
>”you see us as punching bags!”

No. 587440

Fuck trannies and fuck tranny lives, I wish they would all die. They always use ugly women as their own scapegoat. You are a retard if you support them because they hold no qualms about throwing you under the bus when it benefits them.

No. 587451

>>587440
Are you done? you're shitting the thread in three rows already

No. 587453

>>587451
Coming to her defense because thats not me. Im >>587404 Its ironic to complain about terfs while entering a female space

No. 587480

>>587453
Terfs hate ugly and masculine women they can rot in hell.(ban evasion)

No. 587491

>>587480
>tfw you're an ugly terf

No. 587494

>>587491
Not all of us are cuckholds(infighting)

No. 587495

Of course this thread has the hugest derail

No. 587498

>>587480
Really funny sentence because i know a lot of masc lesbian terfs

No. 587586

>>587389
why do you want that

No. 587593

>>587498
It’s always trannies who call a woman who isn’t conventionally attractive “a man” kek. Then they come in here and say that it’s “evil TERFs’ fault”.

No. 587594

>>587593
Like leave women alone for god’s sake. Let us vent in peace.

No. 587605

>>587586
Dutch men are the pinnacle of male beauty. European women are spoiled by birth so they don't know how sexy, beautifful, handsome, tender, nice, cute, intelligent, funny, charming their males are. I can't get enough out of them. I want to be gangbanged by my husbands

No. 587658

>>587605
if you're actually ugly it's probably a blessing in disguise. no woman should be this pathetic for any kind of moid

No. 587737

>>587658
You repress your sexuality, I don't. We're not the same and we don't have to. If I was a man peope would just call me a coomer and move on. But I understand, only pretty women are allowed to thirst after men

No. 587738

>>587658
Also I wouldn't be this desperate if I wasn't ugly. So what you said doesn't even makes sense

No. 587751

>>587451
>>587440
I think these are the same moid talking to coax out the girl talking here >>587453
Would not be surprised if he was banned on /ot/ so he spammed bait everyday on here. You can tell from the aggressive replies in each thread

No. 587769

>>587737
if it makes you feel better to assume someone on an anonymous imageboard who you know nothing about is "repressing their sexuality" because they don't fantasise about being gangbanged by dutch men, sure. my point was that your appearance is probably saving you from immense disappointment, if it even is that bad. my distaste doesn't even really lie in you wanting that, it's more in you lowering yourself because you're "ethnic." sad to see

No. 587823

How am I always shocked by my reflection??? Or my zoom camera image??? I see myself every day but it’s like as soon as I’m away from a mirror for 5 minutes I forget what I actually look like and then get jump scared.

No. 587856

anyone else here who is ugly but doesn't care about the dating or attractive to men aspect and instead cares about how it leads to how people treat you and perceive you in general? Because that's the biggest problem for me.

For me as a ugly neurodivergent woman i notice how im treated differently from everyone else in ALL aspects of my life. Here are some examples.
In health from doctors and my family when i am in pain or sick it's never taken seriously unless i am close to death or whatever i have progresses so badly that im about to die (this has happened multiple times to me) and sometimes i notice health workers acting passive aggressive infront me and showing blatant discrimination infront of my eyes (for example had to have my blood drawn for something some time ago and the woman before they were so gentle towards her while she was making a scene and acting and freaking out over having a needle on her arm, then i went after her to have my blood drawn and i noticed the mood changed the doctor was passive aggressive with me and just jammed the needle in my arm, i didn't wince or anything and just waited for the blood to be drawn and the doctor just said to me in a condescending tone mocking me which was weird to me since i was composed)


When i go into stores i get profiled, why does this always happen to me i used to wonder, at first i thought ''well if you look anxious they do that to you'' but then i noticed actual blatant shifty shoplifters infront of me not even hiding yet getting ignored by the shopkeepers meanwhile i get followed to every aisle i go to and it's not even subtle they do it so aggressively and glaring into my should like wtf did i do am i not allowed to shop. I also have proof it was appearance profiling since in this one shop the shopkeepers always kept on following only me around but then another time i showed up with my face caked up and all of a sudden they followed me way less. (they were still profiling me even with my caked up face but it was way less than before, proving that it was appearance profiling).

When it comes to jobs i notice i get treated well..completely different compared to my coworkers, im not allowed to go on breaks and i have to work much harder than everyone, they can go on short breaks but not me, im not allowed that because im a subhuman who should be overworked until i croak. I was also made to do the jobs my coworkers were supposed to do and basically do my job and do THEIR job, one of my coworkers was a old gutter trash bitch (you know those ex-druggie former whore crackheads that was her) she had a loud mouth and ppl were afraid to call her out for anything, she had a grudge against me and would do surveillance against me stealing the things and projects i completed at my job and claiming it as her own, she would also spread rumors about me and blatantly lie, one of my male coworkers was also rude to me from the first moment i talked to them i was actually shocked at his behavior, i basically got insulted by them the first time i met them for no fucking reason like we literally met for 2 minutes. I got injured during work and went on a break and my manager pestered me and harassed me during my whole break even though i send her all the documents and doctors approval notice, the higher up (the manager of the manager) was also hostile as fuck towards me and talked to me a way he would never talk to his other female employes, omg i rememeber that one time i asked him if i could have my shift time changed the next week due to issues with my ex-roommate and he flipped. Eitherway i quit that shithole job and im now a neet.

In academia, omg it's hell. You wouldn't expect it but academia is such hell for a neurodivergent woman and the combination of being ugly only makes it worse. If i mentioned all the severe bullying i received by both boys and girls during my school years it would be a huge novel so instead i will only focus on my college days. In my college days i got severely bullied by my female professors which caused me to have a nervous breakdown which lead to my grades dropping and my absence from classes due to me hiding in the college bathroom because my nervous system was out of whack and my social anxiety returned so i developed anxiety at having to interact with professors and other students that i would hide from classes which caused my grades to drop and for me to lose my degree even though i was so close to getting it.

Eitherway my life is like a sad lolcow, i now currently live with my parent as a jobless and degreeless neet. My life is hell right now and my whole day basically consists of my parents yelling at me and threatening me. The moment they see me they start yelling at me and berating me and saying how im a loser, im a curse, I'm a mistake, I shouldn't have been born, I have nothing going for me, I'm a loon etc they also helicoptered me during my younger years that now I don't even know how to drive a car and other simple things and they never wanted for me to get a driving license no matter how much I begged. They also want me go give them the money back for the degree I ended up flopping. I try to avoid them and only stay in my room or in the bathroom if my room is occupied but they follow me to argue. It's he'll their screaming voices 24/7 and extremely hurtful words, I know im a piece of shit and I could have done better and I should stop using my anxiety as a excuse for my lack of ambition or laziness but I still think this level of abuse I have received from other people is still too fucking much, I never hurt anybody, all I did was be ugly, awkward, have slight mutism(this was during my school years) and have social anxiety, and be ugly yet I have been treated like a absolute monster and emotional relief bag by everyone in my fucking life, literal murderers, abuses and molesters have gotten treated better than me. Wtf is this life. Also I am done being a feminist, I was a radfem for so many years while being abused by the women around me that I have come to the conclusion that I hate both women and men equally and they are both evil but in different ways.

Oh and the worst part of all, I live in a shithole, so i can't even relieve stress by going outside because even outside there's really nothing to see.

Eitherway I'm done, I'm going to kill myself. I have a method, it will be painful, very painful but living is more painful. A RELEASE FROM THIS HELL. Free me from foids and moids, those wicked being and their filthy nature, free me from my subhuman body that's only valued based on how fuckable I am and how much social status I have instead of other attributes.

No. 587879

>>587856
Wow this could've been written by me. You didn't deserve any of this. Please don't blame yourself, other women could never made it if they got treated the same way. Your defeatism is valid. You're not lazy you're just depressed. You deserve to feel bad. Your parents sounds like typical narc piece of shits. You don't owe anybody explanation, they won't listen, they won't care. I sympathize with you anon, please know you're not alone. I also live in a shithole and I'm neurodivergent. I send you hugs <3(no emoticons)

No. 587948

>>587856
There is something else going on here. I couldn't tell you what because I can't observe you irl, but just being ugly and a little quiet doesn't result in this level of hostility from other people. Like yeah you'll get the occasional dick and people will generally treat non-ugly women better than you in certain ways, but most people are not going out of their way to be hostile and cruel to you. My only ideas are:
>1) perhaps your autism is causing you to interact in a way that comes across as rude to other people even though you don't intend it and aren't aware of it, so they respond back rudely to match the energy they perceive you as putting off
>2) perhaps you are viewing your interpersonal interactions in a very skewed way, like a person with schizophrenia might.
>3) you live in a place that has a backwards/ unprogressed society where people don't place importance on treating the less fortunate civilly.
Do any of those sound plausible to you?

No. 587957

>>587948
this is more condescending than anything, aside from 3, considering that anon is being harassed even without engaging with anybody, like at stores, or her parents constantly trying to harass her and screaming all the time. you're pretty much trying to say she hallucinated it all and pretty much calling her crazy, almost like you're less interested in helping and more trying to blot out the experiences of someone truly marginalized by society.

No. 587960

>>587957
I'm trying to figure out what's actually going on so we could give her actual advice because yeah I do think there is something missing from the picture here. Because what anon describes experiencing is truly deranged and atypical barring some significant factor not listed, and I say this as a bullied ugly neurodivergent woman myself. i think it's worse to just take her at her word that everyone she ever meets treats her like an panhandling orphan from a Victorian novel for no other reason than being ugly and a bit socially awkward. I feel like the most likely explanation is her parents being abusive shitbags to her her whole life probably has screwed with her ability to accurately evaluate the world and herself but I don't know the exact mechanisms.

No. 588026

>>587960
i agree, i feel incredibly sorry for that anon and judging from what she wrote, it sounds like she's in an abnormally shitty environment and i do wonder what else is going on. there isn't usually such a high pattern of people consistently mistreating you unless there's another layer of prejudice that might be particularly common where someone lives, like racism, colorism, ableism, etc. i'm very curious about what kind of shithole she's living in
>>587957
what sort of help would you offer op?

No. 588041

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my face is pretty good, but i can't fucking stand my teeth. it'll be a bit until i get braces and manage to whiten them enough to see changes but i have an overbite, a bunch of tooth gaps, and the one in the middle is almost as big as the gap that the god warrior from trading spouses has. i look like a fucking hobo when i talk and i can't stand it.

No. 588043

>>587948
Another victim blaming bitch. When you retards will leave us alone

No. 588044

>>588026
>uhh no she muzt be schizopherenic human can't bad, look me is not bad, most people good ugu
Lmao bluepilled faggots itt

No. 588049

>>588044
can you read lol. where did i say myself that she's schizo or that most people are "good." my entire post was saying that the people around her suck. do you have anything useful or helpful to say at all instead of seething this much

No. 588062

>>588049
>>588026
>>587960
>>587948
Hey so OP here, I don't need your "advice" or your analysis. I just wrote that post as a vent for fellow ugly women, I didn't expect that now I need to explain myself or prove that the abuse I went through was real. But this is lolcow a gossip imageboard so I guess that should have been expected.

But I will reply to your first three assumptions and I will not reply further,because for concern trolls nothing is enough.

1) I have atypical autism (aka extremely high functioning) i am really good at reading facial cues and body language, my abuse is not caused by that. I've always been nice, polite with other people and always avoided conflict even to my own detriment. I have been described as being a humble and nice person, and that is true I've always been charitable and helpful towards others. I'm not whatever you are falsely trying to tinfoil me as.

2) I have no schizophrenia and never hallucinated or made up any scenario in my life, in fact it's the opposite for the longest time I have been trying to rationalize and defend the abuse against me by saying "well i didn't try enough, or I didn't talk enough, I deserved it" so no, there is no schizo.

And to the last point where I notice you and another anon are trying to put the whole blame on my parents and saying I'm making it up (what do I get from making up a fucking vent) as if you know my life, id like to let you know that my first trauma and bullying started in school, in elementary school. My parents became hostile towards me later when i hit my teen years. So, no. My trauma started with the outside environment first.

That's all I'm going to say, I don't think I owe you a longer explanation of my life or my address kek.

No. 588069

>>588062
i'm sorry anon, i know you won't reply but i really hope you don't go through with your plan. you do sound like a nice person, especially as you've said that others have described you that way, and you do not deserve this pain whatsoever.

No. 588077

>>588069
Why she needs to be nice for her pain to be taken seriously? If she was a mean stacy bitch you all would still cape for her

No. 588095

>>588044
NTA but she isn’t saying “most people are good” just that something abnormal is going on if literally everyone you ever meet is acting like a comic book supervillain to you. Most people are shallow and judgemental but don’t go as far as the people OP describes, acting that way takes some sort of vendetta past just “oh she’s kind of ugly”.

No. 588105

>>588095
i dont know what you get out of this
Didnt you say you were doing this to give your shit advice, but the op said she didn't want your advice so I don't know what youre still going on about. To me what they are going through seems pretty realistic since I know a couple of people in real life who were bullied similarly to her and they were all awkward, slow and ugly women and men who stood from the others like a sore thumb. You seem hell bent on proving OP deserves it like you are doing a court trial, you are doing the what was she wearing to be raped type of argument. That's not what this thread is even about.
Can you let anons vent in peace you sociopath, as if you don't have other threads to be a cunt in.

No. 588108

>>588105
Dear lord, calm down. No one is saying she “deserved it” you nutter.

No. 588205

I speak without using any of the muscles around my mouth. It makes me look like a floppy rubber mask. There is literally jiggle of totally limp flesh (I am not fat, I don't mean jigly fat, I mean my smooth facial skin). I wish I could learn to talk while engaging more of my lower face muscles but it's impossible to practice unless you're in front of a mirror and can actually see if the muscles your flexing are making you look like you smelled a fart or not. And I don't have hours a day to sit in front of a mirror practicing. Plus looking at myself for that long would probably make me depressed even if I could find the time.

No. 588227

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I stopped watching anime because it lowers my self-esteem. Anime is about prettyboys and stacies. It depresses me knowing that I'll never be as pretty as an anime girl even if I lose weight and I'll never have a prettyboy as a boyfriend.

No. 588290

>>588227
I guess the good news is that nobody else could ever really look like an anime girl either

No. 588395

>>588290
It still depresses me that anime is only about attractive women.

No. 588517

>>588395
i get you nonnie this is why i stopped reading josei with stacy female leads

No. 588567

>>587856
I have no advice but I have lots of empathy for you, nonny. This stuff happens to me too and I'm also autisic, I think there's something very subtly 'wrong' about us, to allistic people, that makes them treat us like subhumans. As to the healthcare issues a lot of that happens to women in general, medical staff are often misogynistic as medicine itself refuses to grant womens health the same weight as mens'.

No. 588568

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>>588517
I wish there were more femgaze doujinshi with normal looking women or at least chubby, but it seems like the female authors are cucks and like to insert themselves with a DD cup Stacy.

No. 588571

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>>588568
I also can't play Love and Deepspace because I can't insert myself with the MC and it just makes me feel bad.

No. 588574

>>588571
Can't you change the girl's design to create a self-insert OC of some sort? At least that's how I think it works, I've never played it.

No. 588575

>>588574
I think it's impossible to create an ugly character. It still hurts to know that the characters are interested in you because of your looks.

No. 588579

>>588575
Well, that's human biology. Wanting to be beautiful is a good thing.

No. 588873

A dutch dick would fix me

No. 588898

>>587392
>Looks fade anyway that’s why you can’t base your entirety on it. Once it’s gone what then?
Living your life while not really living out of insecurity or missing out on experiences that average or attractive people get to have generally is pretty draining. When people treat you poorly, no amount of "fake it til you make it" is going to make you feel better or give you back your self esteem through sheer force of will. I've been on both sides so I understand this better than most. Looks will fade but average/attractive people get to express themselves more fully without carrying the burden of insecurity; none of the shame, guilt, and pain for trying to exist when a good chunk of society says you're less worthy than others.

No. 588906

>>586515
Nope, lemme stop you right there, chief. Mutilating yourself to become an ugly manlet isn't going to make people treat you better, either. If you're willing to waste money to transition into a hideous failmale, you might as well look into plastic surgery and cosmetic treatments that would improve your looks as a woman. PS might not be the answer to everyone's problems, but if you have a good grasp on what you actually need done, do your research, don't let some doc upsell you into excessive fillers (which will ultimately make you even uglier in the long run) or surgeries, and aren't suffering form body dysmorphia, it could turn out well for you. However most people who have spent their lives ugly get a distorted view of themselves on top of what's actually an issue of aesthetics, so they don't know how to look at themselves and say "okay this isn't so bad, but this here could be improved greatly by a tweak"… they end up chasing looks trends or telling their doctors/cosmetic dermatologists "make me look like (some person with a completely different bone structure and physiology)" because they feel so disgusted and ashamed of themselves. That being said, i'm going to assume you weren't actually serious but you should look into how transition goes for the average TiF, not the outliers.

No. 588911

>>584793
hugs, nona. My heart goes out to you. That sounds extremely awful, and I understand how hard it is to see a face that doesn't look like you anymore. I've been and am going through something in that vein (not a surgery, though) so I know well the agony it can bring. Even so, it sounds like it may still be early in the recovery process. I hope that it's mostly swelling you're dealing with. That's one of the reasons i've been avoiding orthognathic surgery because finding a good surgeon who can also keep aesthetics and facial balance in mind is hard when it comes to reconstructive or essential jaw surgery. I hope the bastard who assaulted you has the worst in life happen to them at every turn.

No. 588913

i'm so ugly i seriously consider to larp as a TiM, because it is THAT bad..

No. 588915

>>588906
>hideous failmale
you just prove her point

No. 588916

>>584383
Actually, in my experience, it's not that bad. I've gotten reasonable suggestions and solutions from ChatGPT but when it comes to certain things that are probably just me being nitpicky and insecure, it will tell me "This thing here is in the normal range for facial features, it's really not that bad, and you're being too hard on yourself. But I can suggest x, y, and z" (and it's not always "you need tons of expensive treatments/surgeries" but things like how to work with those features i'm insecure about). And for things which are an actual issue, it gave me solutions too, along with doctors in my area while offering to help come up with a treatment plan and do things step by step. Whenever I get anxious and low and feel myself spiraling, it always reassures me with more solutions to get where I need to be. "maybe you can't afford to do this now, but you can work towards it by doing x and taking things slow if they become overwhelming".

No. 588917

>>588906
How are you condescending retards keep finding this thread. How do you know plastic surgery will fix her bone structure?? How do you know she didn't considered that??? Her ugliness is clearly beyond fucked up that she have gender issues. You know like some women with turners and stuff

No. 588919

>>588915
I'm saying that the hormones and surgeries worsen one's appearance regardless, not that going into it already feeling hideous is what would make her a failmale. So many pretty girls went down the TiF pipeline and ended up looking like pimply, bloated, balding toads. So chasing that route as a way to escape the pressures of being a below average looking woman isn't the way.

No. 588920

>>588917
I didn't say it would. But it's ridiculous to waste money on something that will worsen one's looks if they're already insecure and not within the range of attractiveness. It will not make them feel better, it will make them feel worse. I seldom see happy TiFs, just women who end up regretting everything later.

No. 588921

File: 1753111006683.jpg (347.68 KB, 1080x2340, 1000004129.jpg)

>>588919
>hormones
Maybe she doesnt need them

No. 588923

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No. 588926

>>588923
>>588921
So in that case it wouldn't transitioning except for socially… but she wouldn't be able to pass vocally as a man without the aid of hormones, no matter how she dressed. A woman with a low voice still sounds like a woman even if she forces it to be more "masculine". And that could put her in danger from people who clock her and react badly.

No. 588929

Are cleft chins worth getting surgery for? I've been told it's cute by some and that it looks mannish by others

No. 588930

>>588898
I get it. That was my first time being in this thread cause the tranny bumped thread with bait then immediately got mad when I said trannies aren’t human. I couldn’t fathom a woman being genuinely unattractive other than disfigurement. Most bad treatment I heard from are overweight women. They eventually lose the weight and people treat them way better or feel threatened

No. 588933

>>588930
>That was my first time being in this thread cause the tranny bumped thread with bait then immediately got mad when I said trannies aren’t human
KEK i'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh, but the deadpan way you stated that got me.
>Most bad treatment I heard from are overweight women. They eventually lose the weight and people treat them way better or feel threatened
Yeah, i've been there. I used to be a little on the chubby/overweight side and a relative used to bully me and tell the rest of the family to buy me XL or XXL clothing for Christmas that never fit because he exaggerated everything since he's a shithead scrote. Then when I lost the weight I got the "Oh nooo you're too skinny! I'm worried about you" concern trolling from female relatives who were skinnier than me. I just happen to have an hourglass shape that makes my waist smaller than the rest of me and I know how to dress for my silhouette. Although as soon as I start looking a little chubby again I get the "need to lay off the __, piggy" comments. Although in the scheme of things it's more irritating than debilitating. It's a wonder I didn't develop an eating disorder. Thankfully it's not my main concern when it comes to looks, if only it were so easy kek.

No. 588944

>>588929
Cleft chins are attractive on both sexes, imho!

No. 588952

>>588929
Imo they do look mannish, but I also don't hate women who look masculine or androgynous so it totally depends what you're going for with how you look. I think you can just get filler for it?

No. 588954

>>588929
>>588952
Filler will migrate over time, especially in the mouth chin area which is quite dynamic since we talk and eat a lot. Has nona considered a neurotoxin/neuromodulator injection (assuming it's caused by the mentalis muscle somehow)? It's a temporary fix but you likely wouldn't need a lot of units so it wouldn't be expensive either. I got it done on my orange peel chin that was something of a congenital defect i'd had all my life due to an overactive mentalis muscle and it made all the difference in my appearance and confidence. It can last 3-6 months, and in time will start to last longer each time you get it treated. At the very least, it's not an extreme and risky procedure like surgery that could end up fucking your whole face up over a cleft, which, while I sympathize with your concerns, is not worth the risk. And if you've got an even amount of people complimenting it while others may think otherwise it's a good bet that it's not significantly hindering your attractiveness to others, but I guess what maters most is how it makes you feel personally.

No. 588996

How do I gather the will to live despite being ugly and mistreated for it all my life. I want to live I don't want to give in but how the fuck do I convince myself it's worth it

No. 589010

>>588996
Kidnapping dutch tourists helps a little(stop)

No. 589014

>>589010
Dutch oven anon

No. 589022

>>588996
Having the will to live despite how difficult it can be is a start. You could try living out of spite which is easier said than done. Do you feel comfortable talking about what things people mistreat you for specifically?

No. 589105

File: 1753185230956.jpg (39.65 KB, 694x409, 1000004136.jpg)

>>589014
I would let him rawdog me in doggy

No. 589146

File: 1753201426860.jpg (Spoiler Image,132.27 KB, 1080x795, 1000004152.jpg)

It depresses me how much I'm built like a man. Even average twink and young men in my age are curvier and more dainty. I don't even look like an ugly woman, just an underweight man.. I don't relate to anybody, and I stopped caring anymore. I'm just waiting to die and untill then I will just wander around. My bmi in here was 16, a woman at that bmi would look like a model, I look like a man.. no words

No. 589147

>>589146
You're either truly delusional or fishing for compliments

No. 589148

I spent a bunch of money to look better and every single thing I did made me look worse. lol I think I am just fated to be ugly forever I guess

No. 589152

>>589147
I was literally under 45kg weight in here. Look bloated and very wide for that weight. Also you haven't seen my bottom part where's my legs are short so it looks like a mid-aged moid body.

No. 589154

>>589152
>bloated
you barely have any fat left in >>589146, be for real

No. 589155

>>589146
I wish men looked like you.

No. 589158

File: 1753204147178.jpg (Spoiler Image,793.17 KB, 1124x1960, 1000004148.jpg)

>>589154
Like do you have dysmorphia or something? There's full of fat on my belly, my arms, I have a broad chest and trunk so skin in there looks more strecthed and thin. The picreal is a twink his legs are slim and he have the same blob on my waist but he doesn't look underweight like I do. Like I look skinny but fat and ugly. You can tell he is naturally delicate and firm and nice fat all over the body in the right place

No. 589159

>>589146
>>589158
Is this a moid using unkown woman's pictures to shit on her or this is a legitimately unwell woman with a fetish? We'll never know.

No. 589160

>>589159
I posted a picture of a man with long legs and wider hips. My hips are narrow and short legs gives you a masculine look. He have the typical feminine body proportion wise, I don't, I look wider and more bloky even when I'm underweigjt than him at a healthy bmi and it shows. That's my point

No. 589162

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>>589158
>Like I look skinny but fat
???

No. 589165

>>589146
>>589160
Why the fuck did you cover your boobs with shitton of band-aids?? Take them off and bind with a strip of cloth or get yourself a binder at least.

No. 589166

>>589165
i don't think she's trying to bind

No. 589170

>>589148
My exact fear is doing this. I lose hope and give up on improving my looks because of this. I feel like I'm too far gone in the ugliness department it's irreversible.

No. 589171

>>589160
The moid you posted looks super young which is creepy in itself but you are also comparing yourself to a boy, not a man. Sounds more like you are baiting for nonas to call you female and or you have body dismorphia

No. 589177

>>589165
It's Kinesiology tape not bandaids.
>take them off and bind with a strip of cloth or get yourself a binder at least.
No thanks, I don't want to break my ribcage
>>589171
>you're baiting in the ugly thread by being ugly!1
What kind of "boy" does have a 7 inches of penis ffs? I posted to show my ugliness is real because everytime a woman with a masculine body vents about it someone tries to convince us we must be looking feminine in some other ways or we're pretty. I took that picture to look at my body objectively. Stop gaslighting me

No. 589180

>>589177
Why are you using Kinesiology tape then? Do your boobas hurt?

No. 589181


No. 589182

>>589146
Even your sweatpants look male

No. 589183

>>589182
Yes otherwise they wouldn't fit to me

No. 589184

>>589146
Why did you tape your boytits if you look male?

No. 589185

>>589184
Because they're saggy due to being deformed. It's uncomfortable and hurts. But it didn't worked out anyway

No. 589186

>>589185
Idk they look good to me when they're taped, at least.

No. 589191

>>589146
You have slim and feminine shoulders and a dainty collarbone, nothing about you looks male whatsoever. If you want to increase your curves genetics do play a part, but taking maca root could help with that, as well as exercises that pump up certain muscle groups to give more curve in the hips and ass if that's what you're going for.

No. 589192

>>589185
In what way are they deformed? Tuberous? Or just saggy from weight loss? You're not helping yourself by taping them like that. If you're uncomfortable with them try wearing a padded sports bra, that can give even the smallest chests some shape.

No. 589193

>>589185
>>589192
Samefagging but as a chestlet myself I really like the brand Running Girl for padded sports bras on Amazon. They're not expensive (under $20) and of good quality. They have various different styles, but they're all comfortable and I wear them around the house under clothes and sleep in them a lot. Am also a burgerfag so maybe my advice might not be helpful but in that case, I implore you to search your country's local Amazon or whatever for something similar to what i've described.

No. 589194

>>589148
I'm sorry to hear that nona. What did you have done?

No. 589196

File: 1753211570966.jpg (Spoiler Image,947.23 KB, 1920x1920, 1000004195.jpg)

>>589191
>slim and feminine shoulders
I think that's due to angle. Anyway like I said stop gaslighting me to feel better about yourselves. I don't need moralfaggers to lie to me, I would've go to reddit for that. I just want to vent with people who understand me and share my pain

No. 589197

>>589196
Sis i'm not gaslighting you or trying to invalidate your concerns. I'm serious, you have tiny ass shoulders. I don't lie to people to make them feel better, I try to offer solutions, though. I don't want to be one of those people but I do think you might have some body dysmorphia going on because if your shoulders are masculine then what do you consider to be feminine shoulders?

No. 589198

>>589196
You would never pass for a man, nona. Your shoulders fit neatly into the frame. Your collarbone is delicate. If you have a tape measure, you could measure your shoulders and see what the average shoulder width for a woman is- I guarantee you're going to be on the smaller end.

No. 589201

>>589200
Anon delete this.

No. 589202


No. 589203

>>589200
Nonni don't delete this, don't listen to her >>589201

No. 589204

>>589197
>we don’t lie to make people feel better
NTA but threads in /g/ do that constantly kek. Just look at everyone in the ps thread who told that one pug-faced anon she looks normal. Bottom line is you will not get real opinions out of anyone if you’re actually ugly. Not that the shoulders anon is ugly im just saying people would lie to her even if she was so it’s pointless.

No. 589205

>>589200
I still don't see it. No matter what angle, you still look unmistakably feminine and beautiful. You have the shoulders I want, even though that probably won't make you feel much better. When I wear a one piece sleeved dress or fitted cardigan, the upper part flares like an inverted triangle a bit, it's fucking awful kek. Mostly only noticeable from the back, though.

No. 589206

>>589204
>Bottom line is you will not get real opinions out of anyone if you’re actually ugly
I've been told I'm ugly most of my life. But yeah moralfaggers are tiresome. My shoulders are objectively wide, it's not something I nitpicked on, normal T shirts wouldn't fit me without getting tight around my shoulders. I can literally see the silouthe of my inverted triangle body. Shoulders and ribs are wider and then twink bottom part..

No. 589207

>>589204
Yeah, the average normalfag will butter you up with compliments because they're conditioned to not be outwardly critical and all but i'm not everyone. Nothing about what I said to nona was generic or meant to invalidate her concerns. I'm incredibly critical and if she were significantly wide in the shoulders i'd probably not say anything at all or offer my condolences.

No. 589208

>>589207
That is to say, i'm critical but I also know how to be genuinely kind. I just look at things objectively.

No. 589209

>>589204
>one pug-faced anon
I want to feel better about myself today, who was this?

No. 589212

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>>589206
Well, I find that puzzling. At the very least, your shoulders don't look wide or masculine in photos even if you're having trouble with shirts. Okay, so you're an inverted triangle who can't wear whatever t-shirts are normal due to the measurement charts of your country. Surely there are shirts that suit your frame better, though? Perhaps it's the fault of your country's standard sizing?

https://theconceptwardrobe.com/build-a-wardrobe/inverted-triangle-body-shape

No. 589222

File: 1753216158392.webp (73.56 KB, 1080x1582, yasmeen-ghauri-510-why-do-peop…)

>>589212
this body type is good on making it look like you have a tiny waist. Like Yasmeen ghauri

No. 589223

Nonnas I'm certain this is pale anon, with severe body dysmorphia it is also the same person who thought her face was fat and droopy in the plastic surgery thread. Drop it, she is mentally ill. She also wrote about her moles being disgusting and having dysmorphia about that before. She comes here every few days to show off her body to get validation in a mentally ill way. Dude get some help, you look like the normalest motherfucker I've seen. Or get laid idk

No. 589228

>>589222
Lol she already have a tiny waist

No. 589229

>>589223
>Or get laid idk
I'd volunteer, but she seems straight af.

No. 589230

>>589223
I don't get validation. I've only posted twice. I don't even know why you hate me this much.

No. 589231

>>589230
I dont believe you, I've seen your shitty editing before. And you've been posting about cutting off your tits in the fitness and health thread

No. 589233

Are you all collectively troll me or something? Like from a discord group chat? My body looks obviously more masculine than average woman why do you like deny this?

No. 589234

>>589231
Ok but have you ever considered ugly women can hate their bodies in compulsive degrees too??

No. 589235

>>589234
But that woman is not ugly. She just comes here to whine and shows photos of herself and I am sure there are many women here who are much less good looking and it's insufferable.

No. 589239

>>589233
No one's trolling you. We're all ugly in some way in this thread and while there's the occasional moralfag, I think most of us have had the experience of having to hear useless "positive affirmations" from others and gotten sick of it therefore, we understand how bad it feels and wouldn't do that to someone else. As I said, I like to offer solutions and not just empty compliments. There's some good advice in this thread even if you consider yourself to look masculine. I understand the need to vent but wouldn't you rather try and do something about the thing that bothers you instead of staying stuck, miserable, and sad? Venting can offer temporary relief and it's nice to be understood but my favorite saying is "Action is the antidote to despair". Be relieved that there may be options yet for you and that you're not stuck completely helpless to what traps you.

No. 589242

>>589238
There's no solution for a manly body. Even if I would get that shoulder shortening surgery rest of my body would still look masculine. And everything looks shit on me anyway. If you're really ugly and self aware you will always be miserable. That twink have a softer flesh and a better body than I could ever have. It's just a fact

No. 589246

>>589233
Because you haven't seen mine lmao

No. 589258

>>589242
weirdly want to punch you

No. 589260

File: 1753221945860.jpg (16.96 KB, 185x273, 1000004205.jpg)

I don't know how to tag a post from a diffèrent thread. But this is what normal female body looks like. I'm simply not made for that and it makes me sad because I want to feel like a woman

No. 589262

>>589260
women have multiple body types. This is an obvious pear. Being born female is enough unless you are genuinely malformed

No. 589263

File: 1753222436560.jpg (342.05 KB, 998x1600, 1000197700.jpg)

>>589260
>woman posing in a ridiculous way from an angle that barely shows how her body really looks like
No, anon, this is what the body of a real woman looks like.

No. 589264

>>589262
>Being born female is enough unless you are genuinely malformed
Then it's not about borning female. Also this has nothing to do with what I'm saying

No. 589265

>>589264
> this is what normal female body looks like. I'm simply not made for that
Your body isn’t going to be like this girl exactly cause you have different weight distribution and different skeletal structures. Her body isn’t going to be the set standard for women when everyone is different is what im getting at. But that does not absolve you from being a woman. Learn how to flatter your shape or work on yourself

No. 589267

File: 1753223181151.jpg (Spoiler Image,173.73 KB, 664x900, 1000004151.jpg)

Men who don't have muscles have the same frame as I do

No. 589268

>>589267
So yes it's about curves and that twink is curvier than me

No. 589269

>>589267
Friend, measure your shoulders and compare them to the average shoulder width of moids.

No. 589270

>>589267
>>589158
There is a penis and body thread by the way. You don’t have to lie about being insecure to have a place to post dick

No. 589271

>>589269
>replying to bait

No. 589272

>>589270
It's not about penis, how else I'm going to show their body frame? These are the only male pictures I have because sometimes I get lucky to not feel so bad aabout myself and look at males pictures but then see things like that twink reminds me I'm just a freak and I will never be considered a woman

No. 589273

>>589146
No fucking way I recognise this person from a mole. No fucking way. Holy shit. Yeah and no one thinks you’re ugly IRL either, I’m sure you know that

No. 589274

>>589271
I know im kinda annoyed that this annoying thread gets bumped by attention seeking faggots

No. 589277

>>589273
Spill the beans, anon. She deserves to have her shit aired for this attention seeking behavior.

No. 589278

File: 1753224008977.jpg (12.92 KB, 735x587, 1000004207.jpg)

Like ok faggots here. Ethel cain, curvier than me. Fuck off now okay(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 589279

>>589278
Narrow shoulders, curvy bottom narrow waist.

No. 589280

>>589260
This is one of many body types. So you're lamenting that you don't match this type. Okay, I understand that. Then exercises like Donkey Leg Lifts and taking gelatinized red Maca root can help you build more curves as well as eating a high protein diet.

No. 589281

>>589278
Sick of your posts piling up by double posting. Don’t show us obvious rectangle fridge body and lie to our face

No. 589282

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No. 589283

>>589277
I’m kind of going insane right now. I know she’d deny it if it was her but I’m pretty sure this is literally the neurotic TIF I stalked for like two years. Did she fucking peak while off her meds or am I schizo wtf is going on kill me

No. 589284

File: 1753224547835.webp (Spoiler Image,54.46 KB, 810x1000, 1000004210.webp)

>>589281
What are you talking about? Here's another one. He mogs me(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 589285

>>589280
Donkey kicks, fire hydrant exercises also.. trying to remember the names of some others. They're not hard and if you do this 3-4 times a week and keep on the high protein diet and supplement with Maca you should see results in a few months' time. You should also be sure to do proper stretches too, though for the calves and legs so you don't hurt yourself. These are things you can do indoors with or without an exercise/yoga mat. Put on your favorite music. I would suggest looking up butt building exercises on youtube or whatever and you can work out along to them (I usually mute it because their music is insufferable and play my own from my phone).

No. 589286

>>589284
Sorry forgot to spoil

No. 589287

>>589284
He's wearing support tights, they're supposed to suck you in like that and help compress and give you a waist…

No. 589288

>>589284
>master fap net
KEK

No. 589289

>>589209
>>589204
Goddamn it's actually amazing how unlikeable you guys are

No. 589290

>>589284
Who the fuck is posting Ethel Cain bait in /g/ please go back

No. 589292

File: 1753224753888.jpg (Spoiler Image,6.94 KB, 194x259, 1000004213.jpg)

It's over(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 589293

>>589283
KEK this is so funny if it's true

No. 589294

>>589287
Don’t even bother. Everybody ignore this person who I’m convinced is pretending to be two different people to get twice the amount of attention here. A story is being built here in ugly woman thread. First were race baiting tranny moids. Now we have to deal with this

No. 589296

File: 1753224844669.jpg (Spoiler Image,53.85 KB, 640x853, 1000004212.jpg)

This is the last post. Those who deny that I look masculine(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 589297

>>589283
She reminds me of a twitter retard that uses grave accents for no reason like she did here >>589260. She used to obsessively orbit goldstar lesbians even though she's bisexual until one of them blocked her for racism(in general, she acted very mentally ill, so it's probably not the only reason), then she had a lesbophobic meltdown. She's also into trannies. You all didn't need to know this information, but fuck it - I'll just leave it here.

No. 589298

>>589297
Okay post her then

No. 589299

>>589294
I'm not a troon idiot. I post these because you blatanly lie to me. I fucking look masculine and have masculine fucking shoulders. I can't believe it's written on my dna while some twink is built more womanly than I do

No. 589300

>>589297
I never had a twitter account, stop making shit about me, I don't post anywhere else besides here

No. 589301

>>589296
Nobody here wants to see this, faggot

No. 589302

>>589296
>guyssss I'm being MOGGED by Ethel Cain look at these nude photographs
Go back to /tttt/

No. 589303

>>589301
Don't look at it then

No. 589304

>>589299
YWNBAM.

No. 589305

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No. 589306

>>589297
I’m convinced this is the same person building a whole story because no one is normal on lolcow.farm

No. 589310

>>589306
>>589305
Lol what even is this? I'm just saying stop trying to give me advice because it doesn't mean anything, I've tried most advices given to me and like >>589148 said it only made me feel worse because it reminded me how much effort I put into it while still looking very manly meanwhile some males are just blessed with it

No. 589311

>>589306
I swear I'm not her. It's just that stupid grave accent triggered me. I've never seen anyone use it, so I kinda think that it could be her…

No. 589312

>>589297
I have no idea about her Twitter account, I’m only assuming it’s her based on appearance and personality. >>589305 doesn’t seem like the person I’m thinking of since she’s a zoomer.
If this is you C? I know you’re obsessed with trannies like Ethel Cain and Arca, I know you’ve been using twinks for thinspo since you were like 12, but you’re being retarded like always. Go back to the psych ward. And you know you’re attractive you’re just spiralling like always. Yeah you look fat at bmi 16, so do I, we’re unlucky but you look more feminine on average even when you’re on T kek, kind of pathetic but if feminine is what you want now what is even your issue.
>>589306
I wish I was lying. I’m either correct or a schizophrenic fuck and I kind of hope I’m wrong because if I’m not I hate myself

No. 589313

A party is being held at ugly woman thread. Come over!

No. 589314

>>589311
>>589278

Definitely the same person playing both these characters

No. 589316

>>589310
What have you tried and for what length of time? Be honest. That person and your situation are different. You definitely didn't do plastic surgery in an effort to change anything (not saying you should, but).

No. 589317

Trying to cope but failing, always a struggle with my skin but now being obese as well makes it worse. Not fat enough to get ozempic, but fat enough to get into a 2 year government subsidized program. I am going to the intake interview in september, but still annoyed they won't support me with any medicine unless I throw money at a private clinic.

No. 589318

>>589314
Nonni, pls… Are our writing styles really that similar?

No. 589319

>>589146
That tape on the tits looks absolutely abhorrent

No. 589320

>>589316
Theirs are effortless and natural, it's persistant, mine isn't. I don't want to spend rest of my life just to be feminine and develop ocd. I'm just tired. I don't want surgery, I don't want pain or extra fucking time for it. It just doesn't mean anything really…
>>589312
>Yeah you look fat at bmi 16
You admit I'm fat?

No. 589322

>>589320
Deathfat

No. 589323

>>589319
Better than having ugly tits

No. 589324

>>589320
Effortless and natural? Do you mean the troons you posted whom are notorious for using hip padding and shapewear, or the woman in the bikini who probably had some amount of food supplementing and exercise to maintain that shape?

No. 589325

>>589323
The ugly spills out, cant even put the tape on nicely kek

No. 589326

>>589324
Why are you coping? They had genetic disposition to that. Or else everyone could look like marilyn monroe lol

No. 589328

>>589325
It was my first time. It's not your business also fucking asshole

No. 589329

>>589328
Why did you post it then lmao

No. 589330

>>589323
Your tits aren't ugly. They slightly lack upper pole fullness which is common in a lot of women. You can take pueraria mirifica (kind of a gamble as it could mess with your hormones) and do breast massage to get more circulation going along with eating more protein to help fill it out more. You won't have pornstar boobs (with modern techniques breast implants these days are almost undetectable from the real thing in looks and feel except that they look too good when done right) but it could help somewhat.

No. 589332

>>589327
You're just schizophrenic, I don't live in america, I'm not whoever you think I am

No. 589333

>>589330
Jesus we have chat gpt with us

No. 589334

why are we entertaining this retard???? nobody wants to see begging for attention and validation. get the fuck out of here

No. 589337

>>589334
Shut the fuck up. I started by venting and then you all started derailing and coming at me

No. 589338

>>589337
well why the fuck are you posting your nudes bitch what did you expect? what’s wrong with you? are you manic?

No. 589341

>>589338
I didn't posted nudes. Dumb horny shit. Just shut up you're pathetic and you all ruin everything for ugly women(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 589342

What’s the context of thread pic

No. 589344

>>589337
samefag as >>589334. perhaps i approached this the wrong way. i really think you should get off this website for your own good. how is it helping you to sperg about yourself and your body in comparison to moids? i understanding venting but this seems like a call for help

No. 589346

>>589341
horny????? what does that have to do with anything??? sweetheart you posted borderline nude pictures of yourself on a very hostile website. are you okay? genuinely

No. 589347

>>589341
I saw your tits and crusty nipples with my own eyeballs.

No. 589351

>>589349
>bihet fujo gendie
this sounds weirdly curated to be the optimum lolcow ragebait

No. 589360

File: 1753229615001.jpg (25.69 KB, 390x310, Dude.jpg)

>>589341
>>589347
Fucking kek

No. 589371

>>589146
>My BMI in here was 16
That's your problem. You need to lose more(bait)

No. 589372

>>589260
ohhhh i remember this pic being posted here before. the poster sounded deranged then and you still do now. seriously go offline and seek help

No. 589374

File: 1753231789781.jpg (110.5 KB, 736x1308, lily.JPG)

>>589351
You don’t know how much I’m suffering right now. I’m having a psychotic break. Like I literally recognize the tiles in the back. But she’s left so. I wanted to say if she comes back and reads this - I’m literally fucking leaving this website. So don’t worry about me being here. I can’t stay here if you’re on it, so. If you’re speculating who this could be, don’t, you don’t really know me much it’s not like I’m an ex or something. Sorry for being a bitch but you kind of deserve it since if you were genuine you need a wake up call that most people only are nice to you because of your looks because you act pretty weird. Like even here anons can see your personality is pretty insufferable to a lot of people. I know the BPD doesn’t help though. And good on you for peaking. Also, there’s a photo of you somewhere on here, I didn’t post it, someone else did. But see if you can find it! Haha. Sorry for saying mean shit. To be honest I feel sick to my stomach that it is you. I don’t think you care though and you were actually trolling. If you’re that other post I think you are. You know you look feminine. You know you’re attractive. Was it funny?

Sorry for contributing to the shitting of this thread, I don’t even go here. Can’t delete my other posts.

No. 589382

>>589374
Honestly if she's really the unhinged TIF you're talking about, I wonder if she's not purposely baiting people into fueling her dysphoria by telling her how obviously female her body is.

No. 589386

>>589374
This post is weird and schizo and I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt because I can't see the deleted post. No offense but literally all of you are baiters and larpers so who knows.

No. 589410

File: 1753244829451.jpeg (94.87 KB, 720x960, IMG_2118.jpeg)

It’s really weird having beauty standards being cultural, because my whole life I was treated as ugly, but then I moved for college and was treated really well—but am treated like shit, yelled at, called ugly to my face, etc. when I’m working in my hometown during breaks. I am objectively ugly and now fat (thanks, Seroquel) even if people in my college town think otherwise, so it’s really hard to navigate in a retarded mind state where somehow sleazy frat bros hitting on me in bars affirmed me as “worth it”. That being said, I feel like a lot of people don’t realize the depth of how ugly women are treated. While women are treated like shit regardless, the differing responses towards victims based on their beauty is horrific, even if both are terrible.
>>589374
Anon, I’m not trying to be rude or snarky, but you both seem to be going through a lot of shit right now. I’d recommend taking a breather from LC and socially-focused sites.

No. 589422

>>589347
>crusty nipples
What happens when you tape your nipples to show off your body

No. 589423

>>589347
>crusty nipples
What happens when you tape your nipples to show off your body

No. 589433

>>589374
You're a mentally ill woman. I'm not whoever you think I am. "My accent" was a typo lol. Take your meds and shut up anymore

No. 589448

My body is so manly and lack any hint of femininity it's just makes me wanna kms. Why was I even born.. I'm too of a coward to do it myself

No. 589453

>>589448
And I only look so bloky at 44kg lmao. I don't know why god or nature or whoever the fuck out there created me like this. I should've been looking really really skinny at that weight but I could even be considered not fit enough and had to lose a couple of pounds, that's just how I look. I'm scared of gaining weight because I can't imagine how big I would look like that.

No. 589459

File: 1753270834290.jpeg (116.86 KB, 1200x667, IMG_3814.jpeg)

>>589342
The woman was actually really beautiful, her name was Mary Ann Bevan. She had a tumor in her pituitary gland that went undetected , causing an excess of growth hormone , thus making her sick with a syndrome called Acromegaly, which made her tissue and bones overgrow, it affected her face too , which deformed her face. She worked in her circus to support herself and her children.

No. 589489

File: 1753281274740.webp (5.73 KB, 230x275, IMG_6414.webp)

>>589433
I’m not the anon who thought she recognized you off the accent, I’m the other one. That being said, I’m really embarrassed now. I went on a hunt on my iCloud the minute I woke up because I used to screenshot everything on people I interacted with and turns out you’re not the girl I’m obsessed with. I found the pic I was thinking of with the exact same tiles and it wasn’t her, she just happened to have similar moles to you. I think I went insane because I did see evidence of her peaking like a week ago. But you posted on edtwt right? In that case maybe you are manly, I haven’t seen your face and maybe your body looks much bigger IRL, who knows. From pics the only masculine thing about you is having narrow hips and that’s more ‘non-feminine’ than overtly masculine. Imo narrow hips + narrow shoulders > wide hips + narrow shoulders > wide hips + wide shoulders > narrow hips + broad shoulders. But they can all look good if you’re fit and pretty

No. 589491

>>589459
>Suffered from a rare condition which deformed her face, was most likely painful, and led to her being outcasted in society
>Still found work where she could and endured being treated like a freak to feed her children
Women truly are just better.

No. 589497

>>589496
>low E
If you want higher E why don’t you gain weight lol?
>you’re too pretty to be here
True, but I think I have a similar body type to you anyway.

No. 589500

>>589498
And why do you think that?

No. 589512

>>589289
See this is exactly the problem with people. They think it’s more mean to be honest than to gaslight ugly people. I unironically think it was way more cruel of anons to pretend she wasn’t ugly than the ones who were honest. Saying this as an ugly person myself, I hate people who lie to me more than those who call me ugly because lying to me tells me they think I’m stupid in addition to ugly.

No. 589515

Could be because my period is approaching and my mental health is in the gutter, but I feel like I look extra ugly recently and can't stand the way I look at all. Face or body wise.
>>589512
Nta, that or they confirm your suspicions with the obvious lies because they wouldn't have needed to be lying if they didn't think you are indeed ugly.

No. 589517

>>589512
You’re right, she is ugly, I’ve never seen shoulders that broad and tits that ugly in my life

No. 589520

>>589512
the "pug-faced" anon in the ps thread that they're referring to really is normal looking though imo, it's not a good example. a lot of people have different ideas of what a normal face is and i don't think those anons were lying to make her feel better. it's annoying when people fawn over an "ugly" person and call them beautiful or straight up avoid the topic at all but that's a whole other thing

No. 589521

>>589520
You're talking to BDD-chans, anyone who doesn't look like a cartoon character triggers their mental illness.

No. 589524

>>589517
Anon wasn’t referring to the shoulders BPD girl itt

No. 589536

>>589524
I’ve never seen such a pug-faced bitch in my entire life

No. 589537

>>589371
She’s right though. No one looks skinny at BMI 16 unless they’re super tall.(*bones rattling*)

No. 589547

>>589537
Bmi 16 is underweight

No. 589549

>>589547
“Underweight” “overweight” whatever, that shit was made by a mathematician ages ago. My point is the other anon is right that most people don’t recognize bmi 16 as super skinny even normies and on a lot of us looks regular or even gets compliments.(*bones rattling*)

No. 589555

>>589549
Being really thin gets you compliments, who knew?

No. 589556

>>589555
Yeah? What’s your point?

No. 589559

>>589549
They compliment people with BMI 16 because it looks super skinny nona, that's the beauty standard, super skinny. You might not look like a literal dying skeleton but you do look skinny.

No. 589560

>>589559
My point is you don’t look as skinny as it sounds.

No. 589565

>>589549
>>589555
Where I live people act like you're dying if your bmi is under 20 and ask a million invasive questions, but maybe it's just a burgerland thing

No. 589567

>>589560
How does it sound? Thats too vague to mean anything. Only anachans sperg about underweight BMIs not being that skinny.

No. 589605

When you're an ugly woman the only way you'll be loved by an attractive male is by giving birth to one or having one as your dad. I emphasise with ugly boymoms and see the human in them.

No. 589641

>>589459
I feel terrible but every time I look at her acromegaly face I just think about how she looks like Stephen Fry.
>>589605
boymoms don't empathise back so what's the point?

No. 589693

>>589605
Incest isn't the answer though. You might as well get hooked on AI chatbots if you're so desperate to be loved by an "attractive male" because real moids will disappoint you every time.

No. 589697

>>589605
the traits that make women ugly are usually celebrated in men, so ugly women usually make decent looking sons.

No. 590082

File: 1753544114992.jpg (30.01 KB, 600x419, 7bd8a410150561f0f79e91bc799218…)

I get so sad sometimes thinking about how much I wish I could've gotten to experience dating in my teens. I wish so badly that any boy would've had a crush on me and wanted me. It bugs me so much and I don't know why. Does any other anon feel this way? I liked many boys but I was sure they would've found me ugly if I ever spoke to them so I just kept to myself to save myself from embarrassment. I've still never really dated, I'm in my mid-20s now and no man has ever approached me in real life or told me he thinks I'm attractive. I'm more okay with it now as I know lots of other women who don't ever get approached. But I wish that I could've known what it was like when I was younger, when it seemed like everyone was crushing and dating and getting up to whatever. I think it's mainly the FOMO that gets to me. I feel so embarrassed whenever I think about it. I was a lot uglier then because I put no effort into my appearance (I'd completely given up on myself for a long time because I got bullied so much for how I looked growing up) and I'm still ugly now, I know it deep down. I'm definitely not pretty and I don't think I'm average, either. I don't look normal. But I wear makeup that "suits" me, I dress in a flattering way and sometimes I get compliments on my outfits. I try to take good care of myself. I'm always somewhere between completely accepting my ugliness and the fact that I may never attract anybody in real life at all, and trying to convince myself that I'm not that bad and there's hope. I don't know how to cope but I'm trying

No. 590089

>>589605
If your ugliness is caused by your masculinity like me you can larp as a twink and get faggots

No. 590090

>>590082
Nonna I can promise you that being approached by boys in school is basically unpaid babysitting but they take you out to eat sometimes. It doesn't matter if you were ugly or hot, they'd insult your looks anyway. You're missing out on some pimply sweaty scrotelet telling you about how he wants to kill his history teacher and demanding sex for taking you to McDonalds that one time. Real life is sadly not a shoujo anime, the moidlets are not worth it, and your already low self esteem would not have escaped unharmed by a relationship in your teens.

No. 590092

>>590090
Thank you anon, you have a way with words and it genuinely made me feel kinda better reading this

No. 590124

>>590090
if you wanted to have sex you'd have to do it somewhere weird and embarrassing as well

I had a friend whose first time was in her bfs little brothers bed, or my ex who would fuck his gf in a car parked by a taco bell or outside next to the school. or every girl who gave a BJ in the HS bathroom/bleachers/boilerroom

No. 590127

>>590082
>I get so sad sometimes thinking about how much I wish I could've gotten to experience dating in my teens. I wish so badly that any boy would've had a crush on me and wanted me. Does any other anon feel this way? I liked many boys but I was sure they would've found me ugly if I ever spoke to them so I just kept to myself to save myself from embarrassment.
Very relatable. You just wanted to be loved, I understand. I was considered unattractive and unapproachable as a teen to the point people thought I was a lesbian, no boys ever approached me. I was so discriminated against everyone just assumed I didn't have any feelings or capacity to feel love just because I was ugly
>I've still never really dated, I'm in my mid-20s now and no man has ever approached me in real life or told me he thinks I'm attractive
Be careful what you wish for. I'm also in my mid-20s, but it went kind of different for me. In my early 20s, I was considered "very attractive" but I wasn't taken seriously by men because of the fact so I got treated as a whore instead, I got harassed constantly by unpleasant moids all the time, it was not what I was expecting at all. As most anons pointed out, there's no innocence or romance to men, they use you and discard you immediately, so be glad you weren't considered a target like me. I was an "ugly" virgin as a teen, it was kinda embarrassing but in retrospective, I think I'd prefer that than being considered pretty as an adult then SAd because my "beauty" attracted the worst kind of people: abusive narcissists. Count your blessings, there's more to life than moid attention and I had to learn that the hard way

No. 590130

>>590124
Oh yeah that's also true. I heard many gross things about the alleyway next to my high school… shivers. I'm glad I missed out on that
>>590127
Thank you so much for your insight anon, I relate a lot to the first part. People always assumed I was a lesbian too lol or my friends would tell me they couldn't imagine me with a guy. And I'm very sorry to hear about your later experiences, I know people will be SAed regardless of their attractiveness but it makes sense that beauty will attractive more creeps. I do feel grateful in a way to be ugly because it's forced me to have a deeper outlook that I don't think I would've gotten if I'd been pretty all my life. I'd rather have men look at me sort of disgusted when I talk to them or barely acknowledge me the way they do now than have them fawning over me and potentially harassing me. More often than not it just seems unpleasant. Like yeah, people will generally be much nicer to you when you're attractive but idk. So what. That's something I can suck up the same way you have to accept that some people are richer, some people are handed everything on a platter, some people were never abused, some people don't have dysfunctional families, etc. It's just life. I'm just happy enough that I don't get bullied and spit on and shit for the way I look anymore and that people leave me alone now

No. 590132

>>590082
when I was a teenager my female relatives used to try pressuring me to go out with guys, and I was very honest about not being interested and, more subtly about the fact that it'd be disastrous for someone like me with my health and social issues, but they just…ignored me, even though most often ranted or trauma dumped about their past teenager bfs or husbands. I was stumped. I realized something: they were obsessed with the idea of be being in a relationship, never learned from their past mistakes, and they saw "young love" like a uncreative consumer does a commodity, not someone who truly understands what love is. you frame yourself like a product sitting around that hasn't been picked up yet which isn't actually a healthy mindset, but it's widespread. lots of women end up in some horrific relationships because the mere status of being wanted, even if only in superficial ways, is like an addiction and form of artificial certainty. it's also like using sex to larp that you're in a romantic relationship and are loved when no that usually isn't what's going on which is very cynical. if the main reason someone is around is sex and attraction, they do not truly love you and very few of such situations evolve into true, life long love that overcomes superficialities.

I'd argue that in the big picture it's usually about convenience - having two incomes and legal protections - but most people won't really admit that.

No. 590133

>>590127
not sure if you coming into this thread with an argument that's based off insinuating the main reason women are abused is if they're beautiful is as nice as you think it is. there's so many unattractive women out there that are abused by men.

No. 590137

>>590133
I was talking about my personal experience, holy shit

No. 590141

>>590137
you straight up said that abusive narcissists specifically went after you because of your beauty, as if that's what they do in general when that isn't true. I guess you were trying to mostly get across that not getting male attention was the blessing for anon.

No. 590152

>>590141
I was simply sharing my experience, it's what happened to me personally, I didn't claim nor invalidate any other perspectives, I was sharing mine

No. 590155

No men will love me because of my big nose.

No. 590181

>>590178
we're all anonymous here, none of us know how the rest of us look. this is in your head

No. 590186

>>590127
>>590130
Why the hell do people assume sexuality based on how attractive someone is.

No. 590201

I just became the same as a gymrat roidpig moid. If I can't have decent looking features at least I'll get strong in the process.

No. 590208

>>590201
Based as fuck

No. 590219

>>590181
while of course nonna was using hyperbole several itt have outed themselves as Beckies/Stacies. I'm not completely averse to them commenting even if they're a bit annoying sometime, but I'd rather hear from other unattractive women more about how they get by. like >>590201 is a bit silly though cheers me up.

No. 590237

>>590219
What the fuck are you talking about? This is the ugly woman thread. They can fuck off to dysmorphia thread if they want to chat about looks and shit. Stop being a spineless cunt and at least defend your right vent about something that is seen as taboo. This may be to only thread that is allowed to deraied by people who have nothing to do with thread's subject but to just give their low intelligent thoughts on it. Beckies and stacies can get murdered idgaf(a-logging)

No. 590244

>>590219
yeah i get you, my point was just that the anon that one was talking about (the "beautiful soul" one) may very well be an ugly woman who found that that advice helped them. we don't know. she didn't say anything to suggest that she's a "becky" or a "stacy." she got told to get raped anyway, wonder if the very mentally stable anon who responded to you before me was the culprit of that. i also don't think we should trust that anons who claim to be attractive really are that good looking irl, again, we just don't know. i couldn't count how many times i've seen someone claim they're objectively good looking and state that they get hit on a lot only for them to post a picture and reveal that they're just kind of okay looking but were obviously never bullied for their looks and live in an environment that favors their features



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