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Discuss goth music, makeup, fashion that you love. People you admire, gossip, news, etc.
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>>86956 No. 445669
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I’d give anything to go back and live in the late 90s/early 2000s. Felt like the perfect time to be a goth. I cant stop watching and reading goth stuff from that time period. It’s too late for me now but that nostalgia….
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>>445672Is there water in the ocean?
Are boar shitting and pissing in the forest?
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>>445612>But overall my sentiments align with >>445483 where I think a lot of the stuff look too tacky and costumey for me to fele to ever wear them which is funny because as someone who likes the romantic look, I've fallen for the trap of trying some of their pieces that look romantic only to not feel confident or comfortable in it at allThat's why I can't shop online. The reason I bought the Romwe top is because I could see and feel it. It hits the Romantic vibes and I think if I saw it on the internet, I wouldn't buy it. It's too much of a gamble for me, and I don't like to waste money. I'd be crushed if I bought something that looked romantic and find out the fabric was cheap or it didn't look right. The advice I can give anons who were scammed like that; get an unpicker and buy some material that you like. Unpick the shirt or whatever, and lay that garment over your chosen fabric. Cut out around the pieces and sew a new one. That might seem like a lot of effort, but if the style is right but the material is wrong, it's worth it. Trads did that in the 80s and 90s and I appreciate their dedication. I know it's easier to buy a few things from Shein or Killstar, but I feel like they enjoy scamming us.
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>>445669I think we tend to romanticise these eras. If you got picked on or harassed for being goth, it wasn't fun. Yes, the clothes were cool but they were expensive. I didn't like Christians chasing me down the street with a Bible to repent and come to God. There were better things like people didn't spend all their time looking at their phones. We actually hung out with friends. The music was ok but bands like Slipknot and Korn were lumped in with goth. You were still the outcast even among alt kids because goth was seen as the extreme end of the spectrum. Goths usually stuck together and it was a relief to see other goths in places because you knew you had something in common.
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>>445616>My favorite ever skirt came from a renaissance festival stall.I've bought some cool jewellery from Ren faires. Some do leather belts or leather under bust corsets. We can make ourselves unique without looking like Killstar clones.
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Anyone bought anything from
https://www.rocknromancevintage.com/ ? Basically a lot of 1950s style designs. They look nice in the photos. No idea how items look in person and what is quality. Picrel is a random image of black stuff from their offer.
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>>445669I'm honestly split tbh. On the one hand, while I wasn't a goth in the late 90s-early 2000s as I was just a "mallgoth" lol If I were an actual goth back then, I feel I would've liked it if I knew the right people and was able to go see goth bands performing. But on the other hand, finding goth music was quite difficult compared to the turn of music social media like bandcamp and music archive sites. And not to mention all the misappropriation that goth had with so many non-goth bands being referred to as "goth". I started to learn better about goth around 2008 and I then understood why older goths were annoyed of mallgoth.
>>445707I think you're right that maybe we do romanticize the earlier eras but it's tough not to if you lived through it, the more significant thing about the 90s and early-mid 00s was that it was final decades before the world got swept by social media. It existed, we had LiveJournal and MySpace but they were more like passing things and not used in a way like how TikTok is used. And of course we can still kinda live like those times, well try to anyway by hanging out with our friends in person if life hasn't gotten too busy. Unfortunately for many of us, life did get busy and we lost touch of friends and it can tough trying to make time to meet new people if your own life is busy plus the rising cost of things like gas and all that, it's kinda depressing lol.
And even though we did get picked on and bullied, I really did like that sense of camaraderie that alt kids had. School life could be tough but if you had that small but tight group, it made things so much more bearable and fun.
>>445714>Nowadays most people who dress alternative are boring vapid egirls or pandering to 'big titty goth girl' fetishistsI so feel this. I used to work at a grocery store and I remember a few times whenever I would see someone who looked alt, I would compliment and try to have a brief conversation about music. I still remember one of them who looked like a goth exclaim she didn't know who Sisters of Mercy or Rosetta Stone were but she really liked Ghost and was a Swifty… Not that it's wrong to like non-alt music or anything but it's rare when I find other people who are into goth rock or even alt rock these days. I know they are out there but they seem to rarer to find as each year passes. I think it's partly because rock music in general is not really popular anymore which makes me feel even older and I'm only in my early 30s lol.
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>>445856A local renaissance faire in my state has a "thrift shop" booth. It carries pre-owned clothes from actual renn faire shops and brands, but also a bunch of normal clothes that can be worked into garb. Peasant tops, flowy skirts, corset style tops, accessories. I try to buy some stuff while I'm there. I also trawl thrift stores near me.
I have a pinterest board with some goth or alt looks that I like, so I often try to look for pieces that are close to those inspiration pics to help guide me. I work in an office-y job so corporate goth or "cardigan goth" (not a real thing, I know) are phrases I also keep in mind for more wearable but dark stuff.
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>>446387I was actually watching a history video on makeup and I had to internally laugh when it got to Kat Von D and I kid you not but the person said she was the one who pioneered and popularized "goth makeup". Mind you this person didn't even talk about goth musicians like Siouxsie, Robert Smith, Patricia Morrison, and/or Monica Richard who were known for some of their makeup looks and actually are a part of the goth scene, well Patricia and Monica anyway since Siouxsie moved on.
Anyway I say this because your comment on how dark makeup is so accesible made me think of that video and what it said about Kat Von D's makeup brand and how back in the day you hd lots of people raving how goth they were for wearing her products when actual goths couldn't care less about it but to the masses, buying Kat Von D brand is like so goff.
No. 446926
>>446908It was an okay song but I wouldn't personally tink of it as a goth song but it is some groovy dark synthwave. Shame though because some goth style guitars would've really sounded nice with that song and the band clearly knows of that style of guitar as they used it in this song (vidrel).
But as is, some fun synthwave and I can see it being a hit on the dancefloor.
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>>446932Are you like the whole one nona in this threads that has problem with drag makeup despite it being widespread in punk?
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As a non goth I wanted to share my goth experience. My friend at the time a few years ago took me to a goth concert. It was a bunch of bands playing the strangest sounding music to my kpop loving ass and people dancing in the oddest way. At first i was so uncomfortable because it was so dark and the dude sounded like he was crying on stage. But quickly I started having fun. I had the BEST time of my life. I felt so free. I didn’t worry about dancing weird because we all were. I felt like I developed abs becauseI was laughing and dancing so much. I never felt so happy to be alive. By the end of the concert a girl came up to me and even called me pretty. I complimented her too. I was shocked because I’m pretty sure I was dressed like a normie’s version of a goth. It was so nice. I’ve always wanted to go back but I don’t have friends anymore smh. But I swear it was the best time I ever had in my life. I just want to thank you Goths for making me feel welcomed that night. I wanted all of your shoes.
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Has anyone else heard about this or other labels pulling a stunt like this? Any label recs that have stated they won't be using AI. It just seems so antithetical to the spirit of goth. For a scene that is so diy and started from the punk movement, it's gross.
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I'm trying to find a shoe for everyday that still fits my look. But after looking at so many options I'm undecided which one of those look best. Any ideas?
also nico was kind of proto goth
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>>445498>It feels like a lot more mainstream clothes could be remixed into something goth back in the '90s and '00s. I remember being able to pick up romantic tops with dramatic sleeves like what you've posted, Victorian-looking jewelry, quality velvet and lace, flowing skirts, and interesting boots at department stores.This. I remember some shops like Target, K-Mart, or even Kohl's selling romantic tops. It wasn't marketed to us, but you could totally make it work in a goth wardrobe. If if was cotton I would dye them burgundy or black. I had a top like picrel that was black and it went with everything. Long dusters were easy to come by and cotton maxi dresses or skirts looked very romantic year round. I remember some shops selling pointed toe boots for autumn. I really miss those days.
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>>448086Heck, even bell crop tops are available there
https://www.walmart.com/search?q=bell+crop+topAre you nonas even trying?
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>>448164I think this would be the reason for Zoomers reviving the 90s with 'whimsy goth'. When the runways started doing goth or witch themes, every store tried to copy it. More than likely this is the reason the 1990s-2000s carried that sort of style.
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>>448290I think that it's kinda cool seeing how these people make those hairstyles out of wigs, it's quite creative and at this point in time I can understand if someone doesn't want to fry their hair. But I also understand how it can give a part-timer to even poser vibe. Like the person only made the wig to film their TikTok video, then plop it off and put it in their closet not wearing it again until they film their next TikTok video or Instagram photo.
That being said, my sentiment mirrors
>>448314 where so long as they genuinely like the music and it's not some costume used to get "cool" points for attention on their social media, it's all good.
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>>448346>My dad would not let me dye my hair black. He thought it was too extreme.Kek man this kinda takes me back though for me, it was my mom who wouldn't let me dye my hair black, my dad was indifferent but my mom got final say and it wasn't until I was about 16 where she finally let me. It's just funny how back in the late 90s and 00s, dying your hair black was considered "extreme", I wonder if it's still like that now?
That said, I can understand why one would think that someone who only wears a black wig but keeps their hair a natural blonde color could read as a poser in the term of a "part-timer" but personally, I try not to judge on that stuff so long as the person actually listens to and likes the music.
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>>448573>It's just funny how back in the late 90s and 00s, dying your hair black was considered "extreme", I wonder if it's still like that now?As far as teenagers go, I'm not sure. I see some with dyed hair but most seem pretty average. The ones who are alt or goth bordering have purple or blue hair. I haven't seen many with black hair, which is interesting.
>but keeps their hair a natural blonde color could read as a poser in the term of a "part-timer"I had some strong views about what goth is when I was a teen. It had to be black or nothing. But I eventually relaxed on those ideas. I could wear a purple skirt if I wanted to. Goths could have brown or blonde hair if they wanted(but I still think black looks better). They could look like one of the Cretins from Class Of Nuke'em High so long as they listen to the music. Because like we've all said, goth is a music based subculture.