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No. 180309

I noticed we have a lot of ladies on here who struggle with drinking problems so I decided to make this thread.

>Talk about your relationship with alcohol, negative or positive

>Are you an alcoholic, how much do you drink and how often
>Healthy coping mechanisms
>Brag about sober streaks and encourage other anons
>Tapering, rehab etc discussion

If you're happy and drunk go to the drunk thread. >>>/ot/204765 This is for more critical discussion of drinking once you're sober.

No. 180529

thanks for the thread.

i'm in my last year of my master's program and struggling a lot with alcohol, have been since undergrad approx. 7 yrs ago.

i have a little while sober now (maybe a month?). i'm not counting days just white knuckling it. i don't really have a support system and i hid my drinking pretty well so no one to talk to about cravings, etc.

i've been working out a lot which has been cool, and not drinking has obviously significantly improved my ability to focus on my research and start writing up the results.

i hope this thread picks up, i think it could be useful for anons like me.

No. 180538


I dropped out in my final year from a simple undergraduate degree in the final few months, got too sick to continue and the heavy drinking didn't help. Reading that someone is actually persevering academically through an ongoing hellscape - it makes me proud of you, and makes me wonder what my fucking problem was/is.

No. 180566

I'm an alcoholic who's been sober for nearly 2 years now (early May 2019). My drinking wasn't to the point I was super physically addicted (yet) but I saw the road I was headed down and I knew I had to make a change. It took many tries but finally something just clicked in my brain and I quit cold turkey.

I drank every single day, almost always by myself, and it took a huge toll on my mental and physical health. I wanted to quit for a long time but every time I told myself I wasn't gonna stop at the liquor store it was like an alcohol spirit possessed me and I just floated to the liquor store to buy beer. It was super hard at first not to listen to that part of me, but finding distractions and taking it a day at a time, an hour at a time, or even just 5 minutes at a time really helped. That and La croix lmao. Once I got past a few weeks it got easier, especially after noticing how much weight I immediately lost, how much less red my skin was, and how much my digestion improved.

Life has thrown me a lot of curveballs the past couple years since I got sober but I'm very grateful that I'm clear headed to deal with it. I can't imagine what kind of mess I'd be in if I hadn't quit drinking. Any anons that want to quit: as cheesy as it is, I believe in you :) Try getting through just small increments of time without drinking. Commit to going to day without drinking, or even less time, and once that time is up, try it again. In my experience, that was a lot easier than trying to go like a month or longer without drinking.

Congrats on your sobriety streak anon, keep it up

No. 180570

I’m not in AA, but I joined NA after my last major relapse with alcohol in November because I’d had other addiction issues in the past, and genuinely working the program is the best decision I’ve ever made. I’m over 5 months without a drink now. It’s the longest I’ve gone without alcohol for like… fifteen years now? A lot of the 12-step stuff sounds real corny, and it is hard work for sure, but the sense of love and community I get from my home group is overwhelmingly worth it. I don’t feel like a NEET waste of space anymore because doing service work for my group gives my life purpose. Plus, there are a ton of women’s meetings and groups - I know LC has a lot of radfems or otherwise burned-out-on-TRA-shit anons, and the relationships I’ve been building with other women in the program have been really refreshing in that sense, it feels safe to be female and to acknowledge that that means something specific. Really recommend checking out meetings if you’re even vaguely curious, there are a ton of Zoom meetings now because of the pandemic so it’s really easy to drop into one at any time of day!

No. 180588

Thank you for the thread! I’d like to ask some advice from the sober anons here as someone who’s getting worried about the path she’s going down. I drink practically every evening alone in my room. If I realize there aren’t any drinks in my house one night, I feel quite antsy, and like my day’s not complete without it. How do I shake off this attitude about alcohol? l

No. 180590

Change your environment and routine. If nothing changes externally, it is difficult to change bad habits. Those habits become deeply associated with the environment and routines, and inertia will be pulling you back from change. To overcome inertia, which is a huge force, you need to change multiple things about your lifestyle. So you need to change many things to help you change one. Don't be home in the evening or don't be alone, those are environments that support your alcoholism, you need to get rid of such routines.

No. 180593

Thanks for the cold splash of reality, anon. I enjoy being alone but I see how it’s doing me harm too. I’ll work towards those major changes.

No. 180608

I'm not an alcoholic but sometimes I have a strong craving for alcohol and it scares me. How often does one have to drink alcohol in order to qualify as an alcoholic?

No. 180613

Grats on almost 2 years, anon! I want to go cold turkey myself but the last time I tried the side effects were really killer so I've been tapering very slowly and keeping a bottle on me for a swig when I start to feel the imminent dread wash over me. I've managed to reduce my alcohol consumption a lot…now a litre can last me a week instead of 2 days …but the next step is to just stop. I don't know why I feel so much weird anxiety about completely quitting, it's as though the presence of alcohol just being in my home is soothing. If I don't buy anything for the night I feel weirdly on edge, "what If I need it".

No. 180616

For me anon, the signs were alcohol becoming part of a routine. It wasn't just drinking when I go out or picking up a bottle in celebration of something, it was the expectation of everyday at 6pm when I get off of work, I have a drink. That graduated into 2 drinks…then 3…then I started drinking earlier in the day, started drinking to fall asleep, then would spend entire evenings drinking just for fun. Not drinking would become the rarer circumstance.

No. 180749

Thank you! Congrats on you reducing your consumption. I totally feel you on that anxiety. Alcohol is like an extremely unhealthy security blanket and it's hard to get used to the idea of getting rid of it completely. Best of luck! You can do it, anon

No. 180750

Sorry I'm samefagging, I meant to reply to this as well in my last post. For me, it wasn't completely the frequency of my drinking (I did have at least a drink or two every day, but usually more) but moreso my attitude towards alcohol. I was constantly thinking about my next drink. Even while I was currently drinking, I was thinking about the satisfaction of opening my next beer. If I was at a social function with alcohol present but other people weren't getting wasted, I was anxiously trying to make it seem like I was only having one or two drinks and constantly thinking about how badly I want to just slam them back. For me it was an obsession.

No. 181019

Thank you! I did my first 24 hours completely sober in almost two months. I did not get the best sleep admittedly but at least I managed to get some sleep at all. The lucid dreams were awful but I know they eventually go away. Now I just need to not do my usual habitual liquor store run and keep the streak going.

No. 191197

Fuck. Sometimes I get it in my head that I want a drink and it's like I will do anything to make that happen once the thought is there. It's so overwhelming.

No. 191206

Not the most consistant or constant alochol problem.. But I've had a handful of times where my life was falling apart so I got shitfaced drunk and then got the guts to overdose while in that state. My marriage ended that way. My husband had an alcoholic dad so at the first signs of me abusing alcohol he left. I drank after he left and came very close to suceeding in ending myself. Months in hospital. A few years later when I left a course and found myself between jobs too I started to daydrink wine, I sent nudes to strangers and slept around with whoever was close by. I was filling time. I was panicked about my lack of direction. I was distracting myself from the thought of ending myself.

Then recently, after finally getting letters about my divorce I drank myself into a blackout and sent some emails that I have no business sending after this many years of leaving my husband alone. I lost my 8 year track record of moving on civilly…just like that. I hated myself for it. I tend to hate myself for the things I do while drunk. It doesn't happen often but it happens whenever I'm at a crossroads and it fucks things up.

I don't have a good relationship with drink. I very much use it for all the wrong reasons. Even if I don't do it with great frequency…it fucks things up. It helps me to make the worst decisions.

No. 191217

Fuck me again. My neighbors are all chilling in the alley and asked if I wanted to come over for beers.

No. 191219


I know your pain. I would spend most days just crossing my fingers hoping that that thought didn’t come up bc if it did I 1000% would be drinking/using, it was like an unstoppable process. I had not a single tactic for combating it. I would only hope it didn’t happen to me lol so obvi I relapsed all the time.

I was so fucking shocked the first time I actually had a craving like that and managed to actually work through it.
I was missing the thoughts/feelings that would happen directly before that craving.. for me it went something like this….
>feel bad/uncomfortable
>oh no here it is again, I’m feeling bad
>idk how to fix it
>worried I may feel bad my entire life and never get better
>am now craving
> have no idea where craving came from
>it will only end once I drink. might as well get it over with

When I caught that thought pattern happening for the first time I said,
“wait now that’s a little ridiculous. Sure u feel bad now but that doesn’t mean you’re auto doomed to spend your whole life feeling bad. You might but u also might not.”

And when I had that lil convo with myself the craving went away.. it was the first time I ever managed to make a craving go away by just working thru my thoughts. It’s not foolproof but it’s something..
I was only noticing the craving and immediately indulging it to make it and the bad feelings go away…

Sorry for the long windedness. I just spent years having that same type of craving before I realized it was actually in my power to not give in. Nobody ever laid it out for me like that.. I hope something I said helps.

No. 191225

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I was hospitalized for chronic pancreatitis. When the nurse said I had a drinking problem, I was like, "That's absurd." My body will never recover from the binge drinking I did.

In 2019, I had an LSD trip at the beach while partying with some friends. I had some realizations that basically came down to this:

>I was drinking to self-medicate my social anxiety

>I didn't know how to talk to other people sober
>I didn't know how to have fun sober anymore either

I was sober for 2 months after, but because I was still involved with the party scene, it didn't last. My boyfriend wasn't very supportive either. We broke up while wasted on the most miserable trip of my life Valentines 2020. And spend the next 48 hours getting wasted next to each other without looking at one another or speaking a word.

I started dating a sober guy a few weeks later. Then he convinced me to ask him to start drinking a few days after that.

Spoiler: He was an alcoholic.

While I can say I have a problem with alcohol, it seems secondary to my other mental problems. This was like nothing I experienced before. He started drinking anything that had alcohol in it: mouth wash, hand sanitizer, vanilla extract. If it had alcohol in it, he found it. And drank it.

Just over a year ago, I watched him accidentally start to withdrawal because he didn't stock up for a Sunday (we can't buy alcohol on Sundays here). He started shaking really badly, then projectile vomiting, then having delirium. I asked if we should go to the hospital, he said no. Every time I drifted off he would wake me up and say he thought he might really be dying. We would go to my car, he would go back inside and puke.

Finally I drove out to my my mom and dad's house and snuck in to get some beers because it was 4am and I didn't know where else to get them. Apparently he had a seizure while I was gone. He told me, "If you hadn't helped, I genuinely think I would be dead now."

A week later, he was drinking at the same level he was the week before.

My body responds really badly to alcohol since then. I physically can't tolerate it anymore. It makes me sick and my insides cramp just after a few sips. I'm almost a year sober. He ended up checking into rehab and just celebrated a year sober last week.

No. 191226

Mel Gibson's looking rough these days

No. 191228

That sounds so scary dealing with someone who was in that deep. I'm glad you're both doing better. Do you mind if I ask how much and for how long you were drinking? I worry about adverse health effects. I've drank more days than not in the past 4 years. A least a 6pack. One of the reasons I want to quit because my boyfriend broke down crying wondering if I would just up and die one day from drinking. I don't want to let anyone down by being so destructive anymore.

No. 191230

I started drinking when I was 21. I started binge drinking regularly when I was 23. When I was 25 I had the pancreas issues. I stopped drinking when I was 27. At that time I would say I would only drink 2-3 beers at night. On weekends I might drink 10 beers a day give or take depending on how much hard liquor I drank. My pancreas issues are chronic, and I can't eat certain foods anymore without pain.

If you think you need help- get help now. Alcoholism can worsen with age. People can stay at the "functional alcoholic" stage for a while. But you're at risk of passing that very rapidly, and it can get dangerous in the ways that I described in the other post. It has to be your decision though. You can't do it for someone else.

If I was you I would:

>Write a plan for cutting back

>Speak to your doctor, you may want to consider anti-anxiety meds for the first month
>Identify what your triggers are that will cause you to drink

You'll likely need to replace alcohol with some other kind of beverage because your brain is going to be so attached to the habit. This can help you manage while the craving passes.

No. 191251

I didn't drink tonight. My thought process is very similar to what you posted. Tonight sucked and who knows about tomorrow but shit is closed now and there's nothing I can do about it. I appreciate your post.

No. 191254

Wow anon, that was a hell of a story. I've never been an alcoholic but at one point I definitely indulged too much. My ex was not a great person and had issues surrounding booze that starting rubbing off on me as a coping mechanism. Since I left him I've been completely sober and don't regret it at all. I don't even like alcohol or the way it makes me feel but it was easy to use it as a sort of shield against other things that were going on. Congratulations on getting sober, that's amazing and you're really strong to have gotten through that. I'm sort of side eyeing your partner(? not sure if you're still together) for having gotten you into it again but that's cool he managed to break the addiction as well.

No. 191272

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Quitting would be a lot easier if being tipsy wasn't so much fun.
I was kind of going through a rut this past week but at least didn't drink for a couple of days. Then last night I hit the booze again and I had a great evening by myself, just laughing at random funny stuff and enjoying the breeze and my own thoughts and the absurdity of it all. Like a veil was lifted and the world gained some color. It's not like I think it's impossible to enjoy life while sober but fuck if it isn't a whole lot harder.

No. 191276

I don't have anything to contribute here yet but I'm so, so glad this thread has been made, thank you so much, OP! I've been drinking on-and-off since I was 15, I'm now 30 and in 8 days time I'll be six months sober. I met my fiancée at AA and now work with my local AA and NA groups so community is very important to me. Stay strong, ladies. We're gonna make it. ♥

No. 191289

You get used to it. It takes a while, but it's possible to achieve these states without alcohol.

I still smoke weed a couple times a month before eating a meal or watching something, and that's chill.

No. 191299

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>Imagine being so autistic that you had to drink a gin in order to be able to browse this thread

Nowadays I can only function like a normal human with at least one drink

No. 191309

I’m 30 as well and starting drinking a lot more around 26~ after an abusive relationship. I can go a few days sober sometimes, maybe 2-4 has been the longest but it’s very hard and I’m looking for a community as well. I tried for a meeting recently but it was on zoom, I want the kind in the movies lol like we sit in group and talk. Thank you for what you’re doing by giving back to the community once you achieved sobriety. Heart emoji.

No. 191414

Gonna make it through tonight. Keep thinking about the calories, it's the only thing that's helping kek

No. 191428

I believe in you, nonna! The pounds really do just fall off when you're sober…. alcohol is the worst source of liquid calories.

No. 191431

Thank you anon! I've been trying to eat all my calories before the evening when the sad sets in and it's way harder to drink as much as I want (or even at all) when I'm full tbh.

No. 191443

I don't struggle with alcohol addiction but I'm just curious if any of you have tried naltrexone? I've heard of it working really well and not working for others. in some countries it's part of rehabilitation programs, but not in the US as far as I know. and if you're in the US I don't even know how you'd get it.

No. 191452

i feel really pressured to drink and idk how to feel abt it

No. 191462

Hey anons. I don't have a drinking problem but I grew up with a parent who did. I saw this a few months ago. The science is a little… off (it's from the 70's lol), but it's still fantastic to watch. Dick van Dyke is a pretty cool guy, and he spoke about this at a time when it was beyond taboo to discuss. Hope it helps a little.

No. 191471

I don't like anons posting advice with stating they don't have alcohol issues first. I'm not organizing anything to stop them and I'm not going to report them and they probably mean well but it does irk me.

No. 191479

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I wish it would at least make me gain. Instead it just makes my face bloated as fuck in the morning, so weird.
>had to move back to parents because of covid
>your classic french boomers who drink a wine bottle everyday
>since it's summertime they also open a rose one for apero
>I get drunk everyday
Even when I don't want to drink, it's so hard to say no for some reason. I quitted for like 1 week before with picrel, it's the only 0.0 beer that actually tastes like beer

No. 191481

Not weird, anon. Alcohol will do that every time regardless of your weight/age especially if your habits are consistent.

No. 191484

None of them are posting advice though.

No. 191488

Lack of a better way to describe it I guess. I think my point got across.

No. 191493

I also started drinking more after an abusive relationship, it's a very common catalyst for alcoholism. Ugh, Zoom meetings are the worst. I find it very hard to speak, even now, and being on webcam just isn't the same, so I know how you feel. Now that COVID restrictions are easing up in most countries I would ask about IRL meetings as they're starting up again (albeit in mostly reduced numbers). I know the program can be hard but if you can stick with it, it's worth it. Having a sponsor is very helpful, I don't always want to attend a meeting but having that one person I can rant to over an informal setting like getting some takeout is very helpful. The keyrings/chips are good too for something tangible reminding you of your process. I wish you luck, nonna. ♥

No. 191514

>Even when I don't want to drink, it's so hard to say no for some reason.
I get this, anon. My most recent sober streak was broken because of a family reunion. I kept saying no I don't want anything but my stepdad kept offering me really fancy champagne. Then they left the bottle at my place and I drank the whole thing. It's like all of my self control disappears once there's any alcohol in my vicinity so I have to avoid it.

No. 191637

I hear you. The meetings aren’t the same. I had gone to a few with my old male best friend and the sense of community and togetherness is so different compared to virtual, where it’s easy to overtaking others and similarly over share with little regards to the visible people around you. Idk how I’d like having a sponsor as it feels odd to think of confiding mindlessly in someone who has an all but arbitrary relationship to you outside of the program. Maybe I’m being cynical cus I’ve never tried it but I like the “I am sober” app cus its anon social media and there’s realistic shit you can compare yourself to. But even then it doesn’t feel like enough.

No. 191657

Made it 3 nights. Feeling fine physically, just antsy. I can usually make it this far but then manage to fuck up in some huge fashion soon after. Got some edibles for sleeping and I'm going to try to exhaust myself tomorrow by going on a long walk and staying off my ass much as I can and go to bed early.

No. 191680

A heatwave is coming soon where I live and it may be good news for people like me who strongly prefer colder temperatures and for those currently enduring the summer heat. The sweating sucks but just as it's harder to eat hearty foods, I found that how much I drink around this time is drastically reduced in favour of other things like fizzy mineral water. I assume everyone knows how dangerous it can be to drink excessively during hot summers, especially if heat and humidity make you drowsy. I am also one of those weirdos who don't fridge their beer, so I can't trick my brain into thinking it's refreshing. Literally cut my consumption in half this way, which is good. Still a long way to go but if I get to a place where I don't use drink as an accelerant to just get my emotions over and done with quicker, and be able to enjoy a beverage moderately and in peace without self loathing, that would be pretty sweet.

No. 191724

I told my parents I don’t drink anymore multiple times over the last couple years, and my dad still asks me to share a whiskey every time I see him. I would have been sober longer by now if not for him.

I dropped my friend group because of the pressure, but it has gotten easier saying no to my family.

Having something in my hand already (like coffee or seltzer) helps. I even got into energy drinks specifically because it sorta looks like a beer can, so they forget to pressure me.

No. 191727

Walking helps. Anything you have that can act as a sedative helps too. Your nervous system will be in overdrive the first week or so.

No. 191966

Bizarre trigger but watching football makes me crave a drink. Football was always an excuse for me to go to the pub because it was either too expensive to pay for the match on tv (even though I probably spent more money downing lager and whiskey) or if the match was on a free channel I would go to the pub for the "atmosphere". What horseshit I told myself and others kek. I might get some alcohol free beer in and see how I fair with that. I've had some in the past and it tastes pretty nice tbh, not that taste matters much as I just need something to neck real fast to scratch that particular itch. Wish there was alcohol free whiskey though, now that I do miss the taste of.

No. 192021

I’ve been aware my drinking was unhealthy for a few years now, but oddly having people close to me mention it, or letting my self question it, only sent me into these childish ‘shut up i’m a grown woman’ moods that’d make me want to drink more ‘out of spite’? I don’t know. It feels ridiculous. I got diagnosed with bipolar last year, which i then did a lot of reading about, and while drinking like i did is obviously not great for anyone, i finally started being able to see that i was ‘self medicating’ and the k word stats for bipolar people who do were pretty fucking abysmal lmao. Anyway i’m one week sober today, and it’s been strange. I feel as tho i somehow decided, and that was that? I’m drinking canned sparkling water (lol) to fool my lizard brain, and i’ll dream that i’m drinking, but other than that i actually feel really good. Sleeping better already, and my skin is looking better. Bloat is getting better. Like anon upthread mentioned, the thought of all the calories i’m no longer drinking is really motivational as well. Idk nonnies, i have a good feeling about sobriety.

Thanks for this thread btw. I wish everyone the best of luck.

No. 192056

>I’m drinking canned sparkling water (lol) to fool my lizard brain
My friend successfully quit alcohol by switching to non-alcoholic beers. She said they even gave her a placebo of being buzzed.

No. 192063

Nta but I think that might work for me (to an extent) I had a sparkling fruit drink recently that reminded me of my favorite cider and it felt as warm as alcohol does going down.

No. 192145

4 days away from 6 months sobriety and I really wanna throw it all away. Why stay sober if my health is still shit? Genuine question, because I cannot see why I'm fucking doing this right now. At least drinking and taking drugs got me through the day. Right now I'm hiding by my apartments pool to avoid telling my fiancée the bad news I got today. I'm pathetic.

No. 192151


I hate to use this metaphor anon, but drinking is very much the same as hiding by the pool to avoid facing something.

Most people drink to cover up their problems. Ironically it tends to make your problems much more obvious to everyone else and brings bad energy.

Unless your health problems include dying in the near term, you probably have much more life to live. You'll have to face things sooner or later. Better to do it on your terms than losing control with drugs and alcohol.

No. 192364

Ended up having a beer on two occasions but the setting was very social and I don't find myself wanting to drink like I do when I'm alone so I'm not going to beat myself up too much. I've probably saved $60 in the past bit holy shit.

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