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No. 108748

I have a question regarding IUDs. I've been on the pill since early 2017 and I get pretty bad side effects. My breasts swell up (they become REALLY painful) and I get extremely nauseous. I haven't been off the pill since 2017 and the symptoms haven't disappeared. I'm honestly sick of it and decided to get an IUD. Have any of you had experiences with IUDs? I am not sure whether to get the hormonal or non-hormonal one. I absolutely hate and almost can't stand the side effects of hormonal birth control, but I get very painful periods and I heard that the copper IUD makes them 10x worse. ;-;

No. 108753

>Have any of you had experiences with IUDs?
Control+f IUD in the vagina thread

No. 108757

My stomach was painfully swollen and I bleed heavily on and off the entire six months I had the copper IUD. The hormonal one seems to work for some people but the insertion and removal will still be painful. Hormones are bad for your body though and related to depression. If you don’t want kids the best thing is ablation.

No. 108758

Also, no sex is worth this pain. Get the man to wear a fucking condom already.

No. 108763

Tbh, OP, I recommend the patch. I have sensitive skin, but wearing it on my upper arm or my butt cheek doesn't break me out, though I won't assume it's the same for everyone. I've heard a lot of bad things about both IUD and the implant, so I'm very averse to trying those, but I've used almost every other method.

No. 108781

I like the OP image. Who is the artist?

Also, when deciding between the IUD and implant (I needed to get off estrogen because it was causing daily migraines, but needed to be on hormonal birth control due to my PCOS, and I hate taking pills), the IUD sounded way too invasive for me so I went with the implant. I actually like it a lot. I haven't had a period since I had it inserted 6 months ago. I did have breast pain, nausea and dizziness crop up a couple months ago, but started taking B6 for it and those symptoms are now completely gone.

YMMV, of course, but it's something to think about. I couldn't be happier with my implant.

No. 108811

I have the copper IUD. Had it for a few months so far, and it's been good. Insertion sucked, and it sucked at first, but so far has been nothing notable. YMMV, my body happened to take to it really well apparently.

For those who had bad experiences with the (copper) IUD, what were your periods like beforehand? I'm curious, mine have always been relatively easy and regular.

No. 108908

To each his own. Getting an IUD would be well worth it, I hate the feeling of condoms and so does my s/o

No. 108925

endo anon here. have to take birth control for it or i'm miserable. in high school i had to miss days of school a month because my bitch mom said i was faking symptoms (despite having it herself), but didn't care enough about me missing school. it hasn't really affected my body other than making me fat and possibly extremely horny.

other endo anons here?

No. 108934

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I have the copper IUD. I had increased cramps the first few months, but things went back to normal in that regard. There is more blood than there used to be, but it's a good trade off for me personally. The insertion wasn't fun, but I didn't find it particularly awful. It's not as bad as orthodontia or other dental work in terms of pain, but I did get a local anesthetic directly on my cervix prior to insertion. If you aren't paying out-of-pocket for it, it's worth trying out to see if it works for you.

Condoms are not very effective on their own.

No. 108997

The IUD was very painful to get put in for me. It was effective for 2 years until I got increasing cramps and couldn't stand it any longer. Doctors can be weird about taking them out, I had to fight to get it taken out before the time is up for its effectiveness. Have you thought of basal thermometer method? I've been using the Natural Cycles app for 2 years now, with success. I was unable to tolerate the pill as well.

No. 109434

I've had Paragard for over a year and a half now.

My periods used to be 7 days long and normal flow. I had a bit of crampiness that I'd experience but nothing bad.

When I first got my Paragard, insertion was so easy. My GYN gave me cytotec to soften my cervix, 600mg ibuprofen to take before, and we planned the insertion to happen during the end of my cycle so it wasn't bad at all.

My periods sucked though. So much crampiness and I would go through so many tampons. I think now that it's been over a year, my periods have returned to somewhat of a more normal state. My periods are now around 7 days long, BUT I get days of irregular spotting before and after (usually around 2/3 days). I have off/on cramps, and the worst is a sharp shooting pain in my butt that I get every now and then. I also get stabbing pains in my uterus area sometimes but I've had my IUD checked and it's in place.

But I'm glad that I got Paragard because it's 10 years (if it stays in) because I'm moving back to a state where the governor is trying to ban abortions if Roe v. Wade gets overturned. Would recommend Paragard for anyone who is in the same position and needs protection because though it is a little shit at times that I hate, it's been a lifesaver for my boyfriend and I who could never afford a child.

No. 109435

Same OP but I should add that my cycle with Paragard goes like this:

> Cramps on/off for a few days

> Spotting for three days
> Two-three days of heavy flow
> Two-three days of regular flow
> Did my period stop?
> Spotting
> A day later and it seems like my period stopped
> Nope, still spotting
> Eventually spotting stops and I feel a weight off of my shoulders

No. 110885

>Never used birth control before
>Started Cerazette/Desogestrel/Progestogen-only pill 1 week ago

Currently going through the following:
>Recently defeated acne making an ugly comeback
>Brain fog
>Low energy
>Headaches (told to avoid estrogenic BC because lol migraines)
>Eliminated sex drive

Is this an adjustment period where my body gets used to new hormones in its system?

I've only just overcome my acne in the past few months after YEARS of treatment, the last thing I want to do is go back.

No. 110903

Can’t talk about the acne bc contrary to what my gyno told me it didn’t get worse at all. But about the other symptoms; I’ve had these even after the supposed 3-month adjusting period. And even about half a year after stopping it.

I also barely ever had migraines before and while taking the cerazette had them about every 1-2 weeks.
It really wasn’t a fun time.

No. 110905

I can't believe how horrible I feel, I was really hoping birth control would work because my bf and I don't find condoms enjoyable at all.

If this keeps up, I'll have to head back to rhythm and temp-tracking/ovulation strips.
And condoms.

No. 110906

reposting from the vagina thread since it's about birth control

have any farmers had success in alleviating PMDD symptoms by continuously taking their birth control? i just started doing that (day 2 of starting a new pack instead of taking the placebos) in order to skip my period and it'd be really fucking great if i could not have a period and also not want to kill myself every month

No. 110907

i'm on Microgestin FE and i'm still unfortunately getting bad PMDD symptoms like the suicidal haze for a week before my period is set to start. it's essentially cut my period duration in half and the blood is next to nothing (which is why i started it, heavy flow for 8 days straight), but i was hoping it would eliminate the PMDD. i tried to continuously take it for a couple of months without the placebo week and see if it would make a difference but it was still pretty bad the week before the new pack was set to start.

No. 111510

Yes, I've had surgery. They told me I'd be out of surgery in 45m, and it took over 4 hours. I didn't have endo on my ovaries or other reproductive organs, but it was all over my abdominal wall, colon, etc. When I went into surgery, I wasn't even sure if the surgeon would find anything (endo doesn't show up on ultrasounds, aside from chocolate cysts). I am afraid of taking hormones so I just deal with the pain and nausea, which is returning. Eventually I'll have to convince a doctor to do surgery again.

Based on everything I've read, I'm wary of taking hormones to suppress endo. Surgery is scary but it has much better outcomes. I have three almost invisible scars (about 1cm each), and the recovery wasn't bad imho. The hardest part was paying for it, as I was on student insurance. I got a payment plan to pay it off. My parents ought to have helped (they have the money) but at that time they were in a really awful phase and they didn't offer; they knew I'd never ask them for money. Not sure I'll ever forgive them for that, though we've never discussed it. Every time I see the expensive tacky art they bought around my surgery date, I get pretty angry.

No. 111522

Has anyone experienced extreme depression while using and going off of birth control pills? I was suffering from crippling depression three weeks into using Lo Loestrin and a few days after going off of it, I had an awful depressive meltdown. I can't help but feel it was the birth control that was at least partially responsible for those things.

No. 111524

You're not alone anon don't worry
It should be included in the leaflet with your bc, but give it a google and you'll see so much about it

No. 111526

Thanks. It's just that my gynecologist thought it was too soon for any real symptoms to appear but reading about other people's experiences really conflicted with my gynecologist's view on the matter. My recent erratic and depressive state caused an enormous strain in my relationship that may end in a break up so I wonder a lot how much of it can be attributed to Lo Loestrin. I've also had a similar experience from another birth control (Ortho Tri Cyclen I think) about 8 years ago so I'm more and more convinced that LoLo was a major determinant in my mood.

No. 111616

I had the Mirena IUD for 6 years and didn't encounter one single problem. Period vanished. I only had it removed about a month ago. I'd like to get another soon, but insertion was pretty painful, even if only for a few seconds.

No. 111709

Does anyone here suffer from extreme sensitivity to hormones, or hormonal control? I’ve tried a few methods, but every one I’ve tried thus far makes me loopy and I gain tons of weight. My search for a decent method has gotten me pregnant 3 times, despite being cautious.

No. 111716

Are you the anon from the confessions thread?

No. 111775

Do any other anons using birth control get really sharp shooting pains in their breast(s)? I’ve been taking the pill along with spiro (estrogen) for my acne for months and have heard that hormonal medication could cause breast tenderness, but this is a really sharp, sudden (it even startles me sometimes) shooting pain in the same place. It occurs at completely random times/days too.

No. 111776

I've totally had this anon. I changed bc pill and it went away.

No. 112223

so I have a question about the pill. I used to have the implant but switched to the pill and today marks one week exactly I've been on it. My period ended on friday and then today it started back up again. Normal? It's a combo pill if that matters

No. 112225

Why are you taking the pill while still on your period? You should start on the day your period ends, then not take anything for a week, then get back on the pill again. Unless you have those weird packs that include sugar pills for the time you’re not supposed to take anything.

No. 112234

It might be. When I started with the pill I had my period for three weeks straight. Is it like a full on period or just a little blood?

No. 112235

NTA but I think they might be referring to the starter day, as in starting that birth control in the first place which is what they're doing. In that case most docs recommend starting on the first day of your period since its supposed to help it become effective faster. Never in my life have I ever heard a doctor tell someone to
>start on the day your period ends, then not take anything for a week, then get back on the pill again

Why would you take a pill, wait a week then start it again? Am I reading your comment right because that sounds super incorrect. Also most if not all BC pills come with sugar pills even if you don't take them, don't know why you're referring them as the weird ones when pretty much all BC pill packs have those. I've never actually seen a pack that doesn't.

No. 112256

NTAYRT but I think they mean wait till period ends, take an entire blister and then pause (or take the placebos).
However, it’s definitely recommended to start on the day you go off your previous pill (or other contraceptive) without pausing.

Regarding the placebo pills: I think it definitely depends on where you live. In Germany I only really know of one brand that has placebo pills. All other brands have blisters with 21 pills (except for cerazette).

No. 112259

I meant that you take the first of 21 the day your period ends, then take nothing for a week or the placebo (I live in a country where they're very uncommon), then take the pill again.
tbqh though I haven't been on the pill for quite some time now, so mz info may be outdated.

No. 112303

just wanted to update: i've been skipping the placebo week for a lil bit now and so far i have been getting a period, but it's a lot lighter. i just got my period today and it actually took me by surprise because i WASN'T suicidal at all the week before. so, at least for me, continuously taking the pill seem to have helped with the PMDD symptoms. fingers crossed it isn't just a fluke

No. 112307

My doctor told me to start the pills on Sunday which was the day my period started. So I started on Sunday, my period ended Friday, and then it started up again. I followed the instructions my doctor gave exactly.

Anyway, I just called my doctor and she said it's normal, so no advice needed.

No. 112316

idk what people are giving your shit for, you can read on the package you either start on a sunday or the first sunday of your period. it's like they've never taken pills before.

No. 112403

Started cerazette, finished 1 pack, but forgot to buy another as I was sick, so I missed 2 days before I started again. But since I was sick, I also started it with a week of antibiotics. The doctor said this was fine. But now I have been bleeding non stop for two weeks with no signs of it stopping and it's really annoying, this didnt happen with the first pack. Is this because of missing 2 days and also being on antibiotics? Has anyone else experienced this and had the bleeding stop?

No. 112409

I recommend using the fertility awareness method, that way you don't need to put weird object in your body or take hormones.

Basically as a woman you are only fertile for one day during your cycle.

So you can't have piv sex on that day and the day before because sperm can survive in your body for like 24 hours.

You can use a tracking app which after a while will guess pretty accurately when your fertile window is. You can also tell you're fertile or about to be fertile when your discharge is sticky like egg-white (so, it's not liquid).
Your body temperature also goes up when you're fertile and of course you feel way more horny that usual.

If you're new to this I recommend getting a kit that checks if you're fertile, you just pee on it. Idk how accurate it is but it worked for me in the beginning.

Again, you're only fertile ONE DAY in a cycle, let's say TWO DAYS if you count the day before. So why would you take hormones if you don't have to for 28 days if you could just track and abstain/use condoms for those 2 days.

It's obviously not a method for people who are not responsible enough for I'm honestly not responsible and this method made me so aware of my body and it's awesome.

No. 112410

you're an absolute idiot and soon to be mother if you genuinely think women are fertile one or, at most, two days a cycle.

No. 112411

Sperm can live for 5 days in the vagina.

No. 112412

Samefag but you also are not fertile for only 24 hour, you're considered fertile on the day your body release the egg AND on the 5 days prior.

No. 112422

I know a young woman who's a diehard believer in fertility awareness/cycle tracking as a natural alternative to other birth control methods. She's had 3 unplanned pregnancies.

No. 112424

Maybe people use hormones because there’s positive sides to it as well?
Especially women with severe dysmenorrhea, endometriosis or PCOS are way better off while on birth control.

Also what >>112410 and >>112411 said. You’re obviously not as educated as you‘d like to be.

No. 112427

You should start saving for your child's college fund.
>The ‘fertile window’ is the day an egg is released from the ovary (ovulation) and the five days beforehand.

No. 112440

>I'm honestly not responsible
We can tell, anon

No. 112541

Have you never heard of condoms or something? Or do those count as "weird objects" too?

No. 112632

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I know this is a cOnTrOvErSiAl oPiNiOn, but I can't for the life of me figure out how anyone finds the time to deal with the horrible side effects of bc for several weeks to a month, to figure out whether or not they'll go away, switch to another pill when they don't, go through the same cycle all over again, switch to another pill, and hope that one day you'll find one that doesn't make you want to puke your brains out/kill yourself/sap you of your energy, etc.

I'm legitimately concerned for my entire gender, because this is apparently normal and acceptable for most of you.

I've only ever used condoms since I've become sexually active. I know that's irresponsible, but honest to god, I'd rather risk having to get an abortion and go through some discomfort for a short time, rather than feeling like I have poison running through my veins 24/7.

Maybe I'll change my mind if that actually does happen. Or if it happens more than once. But god damn, the reality of what birth control does to your mind and body is fucking dystopian levels of horrifying to me.

No. 112640

I hate hormonal birth control for similar reasons. My gynecologist suggested that I put up with the side effects of my birth control for three months when I brought up concerns of sudden depression and emotional eating binges. The whole thing caused me to eventually feel suicidal for no real reason and when I went off birth control, I was back to normal within a few weeks. I don't believe that most women's hormone levels should be fucked with and I hate that it's basically become normalized. I can't buy studies or articles now that claim that such side effects aren't the result of birth control pills. The pharmaceutical industries and doctors have to keep claiming that in order to keep shilling their pills.

No. 112641

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Birth control has done wonders to help me with a serious hormonal mood disorder. I am on an extremely low dose and have gone through about 8 different brands/dosages until I've found one that worked very well for me. No bad side effects. Like all medications, it's not for everyone. I think for those without a hormonal imbalance it is disruptive, but I am able to treat my hormonal mood disorder with birth control alone and was able to get off of the other 3 psychiatric medications I had been prescribed.

No. 112643

>I know this is a cOnTrOvErSiAl oPiNiOn, but I can't for the life of me figure out how anyone finds the time to deal with the horrible side effects of bc for several weeks to a month

Not everyone has crippling side effects, though. I've been on a couple different types of hormonal birth control for over 10 years (the pill, the ring, and finally the implant, as I got older and too busy to remember taking pills and shit) and I haven't had any side effects at all, ever. I've never gained weight or lost my mind or felt like offing myself. There are plenty of women who have little to no issues and are perfectly happy with whatever method they are on, just read through subreddits like r/birthcontrol.

I do agree that there should be more reliable methods of BC that aren't hormonal beyond just condoms and the copper IUD (which can make you bleed horribly, so not without its own side effects) and I hate that messing with your hormones is basically the end all be all for BC. But for me, I'll take it over risking pregnancy, especially since I'm lucky enough not to be badly affected by it.

No. 112649

The only side effect I've had is prolonged spotting after changing brands, which is 1000% worth it to skip my period. Skipping my period would be worth any number of side effects, they are a fucking heinous inconvenience and make me feel so uncomfortable. It's like a cosmic joke that we evolved to experience them so often.

I'm not even sexually active but the peace of mind is good too.

No. 112650

NTAYRT but you‘re obviously not the group of people anon is referring to, so why do you feel the need to justify your use of BC?

Idgi either. The longest I’ve been on any (combinated) pill was 7 days and after those I was seriously so exhausted. I couldn’t eat anything (like, literally anything) because I was incredibly nauseous 24/7. I could barely even drink water. I also had several panic attacks and migraines. I don’t know how I was supposed to go through this for three months.
The only thing I could bear physically was the shot but that severely fucked me up mentally (tried to kill myself 3 times in the 6 months I was on it - never have before or after that). I still deal with depression and I have long before getting it, but it’s never been as bad as it was then.

I don’t think I’ll ever try any hormonal shit again. Even though I have endometriosis. I’d rather suffer a few days and avoid sex occasionally because of the pain than feel as shitty ever again.

No. 112672

Hi. Could you read that anon's post again? Here's an excerpt:
>I'm legitimately concerned for my entire gender, because this is apparently normal and acceptable for most of you.

Appears to me that anon is addressing all women here and making the false assumption that these types of sides effects are "normal" when they are in fact not normal for many of us. I'm sorry for your experiences and that fucking sucks but the reality is that many women experience no problems.

We're not saying your bad experiences aren't valid. However our positive experiences are also valid.

So I'm not any of these anon's above but I'd also like to add I've previously been on depo, combo pill, and finally graduated to the Mirena IUD 6 years ago and haven't had to think about birth control since. No side effects whatsoever. But just like with pretty much all medications your mileage may vary.

Hope you guys can find something that works for you though.

No. 112674

My doctor says something to the effect that my hormone threshold is too high for some forms of bc, including the one I was pretty set on using(the ring). it looks like I'll probably get an copper IUD. has anyone else had this problem? it's apparently really rare and possibly caused by medication I'm on for anxiety. i'm pretty set on having my bf cum inside me so I could use advice on what BC to start/whether anyone else takes nsaids for anxiety and have the same issue/general advice. thanks

No. 112685

The point of her post was, how she‘s confused that it’s being normalized and expected to put up with 1-3 months of side effects just to know whether something works or not and maybe even go through this entire process for several different pills.

Obviously, if you don’t have any side effects, you won’t have trouble taking it. Taking something and not having side effects isn’t problematic either.

And I never felt like anyone was saying that my or other women’s bad experiences are invalid. I’m just legitimately confused how someone thinks that responding to

>How on earth do you put up with those side effects for this long and why on earth is this normalized

>Well, but I don’t have any side effects.
is helpful or any other way valuable input.

By the paragraph you quoted she obviously meant she’s worried because somehow women and girls are taught to just suck it up and put up with that shit for as long as it takes to find a method that doesn’t have terrible side effects. Obviously it just applies IF you do have side effects. However, side effects can happen to anyone any time.

Women feeling pressured to put their health and general quality of life on the line is a real issue. And even if you don’t have any noticeable side effects, there still do come risks with hormonal birth control.

No. 112697

To me the original post read "how can ALL OF YOU put up with these symptoms," implying that every single woman on birth control has insane side effects but we just accept it and cope, because the post said "most of you" and "entire gender." If she meant "how can some of you put up with it," then she should have clarified instead of making a sweeping generalization of all women on hormonal birth control. It was poorly worded, which isn't the fault of people responding "that's not true."

And "most women just normalize and accept it" isn't true either, women complain all the time how shitty birth control is and how they had to stop xyz method because they didn't want to deal with side effects.

No. 112700

Really, I think there is a ton of downplaying on the potential severe side effects of birth control from doctors. I wish my gynecologist didn't dismiss my concerns over side effects related to my mental health even though I was on the pill for nearly a month. She kept insisting that I try for three months and I really tried hard to keep with up with it since I was apparently on the lowest dose of hormones. I'm just wishing now that I trusted my gut instinct earlier instead of having suffered through the horrible side effects just to see if they might go away had I kept using them.

No. 112829

I am on my second IUD. First one was a breeze (except when it was inserted, which was a two-week bloody nightmare). I had it in for over 5 years (Mirena), and got it replaced when my time was up.

First IUD:
>MUCH less hormones and cramps
>period regulated itself after a while, less bleeding
>no maintenance except checking for strings at uterus

This new one is exactly the same type as the old one, but for whatever reason, I am:
>extremely hormonal now
>my breasts hurt like crazy before periods
>spotting at the two-week mark, so it's like I have two periods during a 4-week cycle instead of one
>also am extremely worried about perforation now, since the IUD weakens the walls of the uterus (I am told by my doctor), so I could poke through.

I may have endometriosis, so it is more of a problem for me. Considering taking it out at the end of the summer. Might want to procreate anyway, honestly.

Anyway, the first IUD was AWESOME. Definitely recommend it for at least the first time, haha.

No. 112835

I'm the anon from the other thread who stopped taking the pill after 10years….

So far, so good. Definitely more emotional some days, like a good ol' fashion PMS, but it's nice. A lot of my previous anxiety or paranoia really mellowed out. I do get MAD jelly of my husband giving girl's attention, but it's funny. Sex with condoms is not too terrible.

Also my skin cleared up? I used to get some small cystic type bumps on the pill, now I'm just a bit uneven. Skin is less dry.

My girlfriend who had Mirena took her's out. She did not mix well with the estrogen blend. My other girlfriend put in a Copper IUD and has had her period for like 6 months.

No. 112946

4 years ago I first went to a gyn to get birth control, because the cramps I get during my periods were horrible (think crying, vomiting, diarrhea). She gave me a pill that you have to take for 3 months straight.
A year later I started to get such bad headaches, that I had to stop taking it. She said I'm allergic to any normal pill and that there are only 3 options: either taking nothing, an IUD or some special pill, which I ended up taking then. You basically take it without any breaks and don't get your period at all. At first it worked, but already half a year later I always got my period + cramps despite taking it.
A few months ago I changed gyns, told her about that problem and she said that I'm too young for an IUD (she said it messes severely with your hormones and that it's also very bad for your bones), but promised to think about a solution. So far, nothing.
A month ago I simply stopped taking it, because I got such bad acne from it, that my back is basically ruined. I could stand that, but it also made me horribly depressed, bordering on feeling completely crazy.
Yesterday I've got my period naturally for the first time again and the cramps are so bad that I've been awake all night. I really don't know what to do anymore, am I doomed until menopause?

No. 113018

I was on the Depo shot for a little over a year. It helped contribute to my weight gain, had random bleeding for a week that wasnt my period, and I rarely became horny along with it being very painful when I did try to have sex. I switched back to a birth control pill but I had to get a new dr and I didn't remember the name of the bc pill I started on when I was 18, so she gave me Mono-Linyah. She was so stuck on my weight gain for the whole apppointment and saying the Mono Linyah pill was the best option for me, she didn't ask about any issues I had. I'm terrible at talking so I ended up not mentioning the sex issues I was having on the shot. I've read that the effects of the shot can take months or years to stop so I thought I'd go back to normal again. It's been about 8 months on Mono, I can have sex without pain but I still don't feel horny like I use to. When I'm on the week of white pill I feel a bit more normal again so I think this pill is making my sex drive low too.

I'll be needing a new prescription in a couple months and I want to change pills but I kind of hate the dr. I was about 135 pounds when I was 19 and moved out on my own, I ate lots of shitty foods since I was poor, had an extremely small apartment that I shared with someone, and living life on my own in an actual town after living in a corn field with nothing close by all my life. I was 22 and 170 pounds when I went to the new dr last year. I know I need to lose weight and getting off the shot helped me not feel hungry 24/7 anymore. I've lost about 10 pounds and I'm afraid she'll push the weight thing on me again next time I go. And I don't want her to put me on another pill that will reset me once again on a list of new symptoms to make me a different person, in a sense. Is there any way I can find out what my old bc pill was, like possibly the old dr giving me records or asking my Pharmacists for a history of my meds? Or does anyone who has more experience/knowledge suggest a pill they think will help with the lack of hornyness without ridiculous side effects?

No. 113030

Just out of curiosity: Are you from Germany?

But anyways: You might have endometriosis and should get checked for that. However, you’ll need a laparoscopy for that. Don’t trust any doctor that tells you, you don’t have it because of an ultrasound they made.
If you do have endometriosis there are a couple of things you can do. When they’re doing the laparoscopy they can also remove possible lesions and adhesions. It is possible you’ll need a bigger surgery though if you have severe adhesions.
It’s also possible to use GnRH analogues to induce a temporary menopause, as it may stop the endometriosis from spreading and making your symptoms worse.

Regardless whether or not you have endometriosis you could try agnus castus or menstrual teas (raspberry leaves, alchemilla, yarrow, turnera diffusa for example).
Sometimes even supplementing some minerals (mostly magnesium and vitamin b6) already works for me.

About the mirena (which I think you mean by IUD?): You aren’t too young for it, your doctor simply doesn’t earn as much from it as they would from prescribing the pill. Also please don’t believe anyone that tells you the mirena only works locally. That’s something the company that sells it writes in their pamphlets etc, but there has been research that shows it’s definitely not true.
That’s not me saying you should get the mirena though. If you’ve had issues with the cerazette (? I suppose that’s the pill you didn’t pause?) you’ll probably have issues with that, too.
You could, however, try the depo shot. But it can cause some really nasty side effects so if you’re prone to depression or a lack of libido - it’ll get much worse on it.

Just be careful with gynos that will give you a prescription for any hormonal birth control without at least trying to figure out what’s causing the pain. There’s a 99% chance they get paid extra for prescribing it.

Maybe consider seeing a pain therapist as well.

No. 113069

Oof, that sounds really bad, but thanks for the detailed answer.

My doctor did not specifically name mirena, she just told me that iuds in general are bad for young women. She's very sweet (contrary to my former one), so I thought she might have given me genuine advice by telling me not to go for that. Both my mother and a coworker told me that the process of inserting it is so painful, that I immediately thought that's a big no for me as well.
But I'll definitely try to talk to her about it.

And yes, I really am from Germany. How did you figure that out?

No. 113086


I had a kidney stone at 18, which was miserable until they gave me morphine in the hospital waiting room. That said, I tried to get Mirena at 26 and it was the most painful experience of my life at insertion. I was able to limp around in pain everyday for a week, crying every single day and then I had to have it out of me. I could feel it in me the entire time. My cervix will never feel the same. I also recently saw this documentary on Netflix about the medical devices industry and how unregulated it is thus horrific consequences are had in victims using these without proper testing. I just don't want to risk that.

I have strong family history of endo as well as having shown the symptoms for many years. I've been mostly stable on Junel Fe 1/20 but I had to try 5-6 others first. I am also diagnosed with PCOS at age 26 by my endocrinologist as I've had Hashimoto's thyroiditis since 12. Fun times are had.

No. 113096

As I said, I wouldn’t necessarily recommend the mirena either as any IUD can make the pain worse.

It’s really hard to recommend anything just from your description. As I said, it depends on what causes the pain. It you’re comfortable with it, you could start taking a combined pill again in in a 3-month cycle (usually they recommend Valette or Maxim for that, but you can do it with any pill, so maybe one with a lower dosage of hormones would work too, such as Belara/Mona Hexal 20). You should definitely consider seeing an endometriosis specialist soon though, as taking a pill that contains estrogen can make it worse.

If it’s not endometriosis, taking a combined pill in a 3-month-cycle would probably be the way to go.

And as I said; Supplementing magnesium is never a bad idea when you have bad menstrual cramps.

And I guessed you’re from Germany because your gynecologist-story sounds strikingly similar to my own.
Btw since you are from Germany: Look up on https://mezis.de/ if there’s a gyno listed anywhere near you. It’s really, really hard to find one ‘out in the wild’ whose treatment isn’t affected by what’s most profitable for them.

No. 113546

hey anons, i started taking my birth control non-stop to help with pmdd symptoms, and so far i haven't been suicidally depressed so that's a big win, but i've had a lot of spotting and breakthrough bleeding at random times. it's certainly better than the debilitating depression, but it is a bit annoying. anyone else try this? did the random bleeding stop? it's only been a few months since i started skipping the placebo weeks so i'm hoping with time it'll chill out

No. 113557

Well, either it stops at some point or it‘ll get worse and you end up bleeding non stop. It can go either way. Nobody can tell you which one will happen.

No. 114679

Is it normal to barely bleed at all during the week youre on placebos?
I heard you arent supposed to stop bleeding until you start a new pack but ive only been bleeding for 3-4 days and its very light

No. 114681

Yeah, that can be normal.
After all it’s not an actual period, so it can differ a lot from your usual bleeding. Especially if it‘s a higher dosage of hormones, it’s normal not to bleed as much.

No. 114684

I don't get many bad side effects on pills but I was thinking a copper IUD would be a better option. I heard they can give you longer and heavier periods though, can anybody help me?

No. 114726

Does this sound like a cause for worry to anyone?

I've been taking Cerazette for over a year now and I haven't gotten any bleeding despite the packaging saying that "light, irregular bleeding" is the norm. Others online said they didn't bleed and my doctor didn't seem concerned so I wasn't bothered by it. Yesterday I started getting my normal period symptoms (cramps, mood swings, sore breasts) for the first time since starting it and this morning I woke up at 4am unable to get back to sleep with the pain (ibuprofen is helping). No blood yet. The packaging mentions bleeding but doesn't mention period symptoms. I'm good about taking my pill on time (yesterday I was 30 minutes late but I have a 12 hour window and it's never been a problem before). Did I fuck up?

No. 114740

Nah, I’d say that’s pretty normal. When I was on the shot, halfway theough the 3 months I would start getting pms symptoms and a week or two later I‘d start spotting and eventually full on bleeding.

I‘d watch it for another month and if it doesn’t get better get off it for a month or stop taking it altogether.
For me, I thought it would get better with the follow-up shot but it only got a little lighter. I ended up kinda-bleeding/spotting for the whole 3 months, all companied by the usual pms/period symptoms until the 3 months were over and the effects slowly wore off.

No. 114764

I got prescribed birth control for the first time, its now been 2 weeks on Yaz. My sex drive is gone, I used to constantly crave sex and have it everyday but now I have no interest, never initiate anymore, Im rejecting my bf now and occasionally give in when he begs. Ive also noticed my acne has gotten worse. Is this normal and what do i do? Do i switch to a non hormonal birth control?

No. 114766

My periods got heavier, but not longer. They were more painful for a few months but now it only hurts like it did before. I do get a little spotting, but that's also died down over time. I will say I'm happy that I have such reliable birth control without anything I have to remember every single day. I check the string every month after my period. I did expel the first IUD, and the second one seems to be placed more suitably, as I've experienced far less discomfort.

No. 114780

Thank you very much for your input. I have been looking for a non-hormonal birth control for some time and this seems the best option. I only use condoms when I'm getting to know the guy to prevent STDs but it sucks to rely on them and it doesn't feel as good. And hormones mess with my libido, I like keeping it higher.

No. 114789

My acne got worse on yaz too. I take midane now and it's gone. I didn't experience any changes in my sex drive from either one of those pills. Just because one pill didn't work for you, it doesn't mean you should quit hormonal bc completely. 2 weeks isn't even a full cycle.

No. 114796

Give it some more time. Your hormones are going to go a little crazy in the beginning because your body is adjusting. This causes all sorts of things, mood swings especially, which definitely contribute to low libido and what I call "pushing away".

>>114789 is right. You should see how your first cycle goes and if it is truly insufferable by your second cycle, give your gyno a call.

There are all sorts of doses and bc is not a "one-size-fits-all" thing. Just like any other medication you might need to try a few until you find the right fit.

No. 114860

I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this anons, please point me in the direction of another one if so - but does anyone use a menstrual cup here? I just got off Yaz bc I've had some scary experiences with it after being on it for four years and I'll be having proper periods again soon that won't be over in a day and I don't want to waste money and kill the environment with tampons and pads. Experiences, advice?

No. 115312

I started hormonal birth control for the first time two months ago and I swear my breasts have grown like a size or two. It's actually bothering me. Will it go away eventually if I stop taking birth control and workout a bit? Big boobs seriously trigger my body body dysmorphia.

No. 115314

Yes, they’re most likely a temporary change due to water retention. Maybe try drinking green or stinging nettle tea.

No. 115339

they probably will but what >>115314 said isn't the only cause. a more common cause is the additional hormones.

No. 117536

I was told by my doctor that the period you get during the inactive days of the pill is a caused by "withdrawal symptoms" from not having the hormones from the pill in your system anymore, and that it isnt a "real" period.
by this logic can you get your period between packs but still be pregnant if the birth control failed?

or is the "withdrawal" period still an indicator that you're not pregnant?

No. 117537

I used one for about a year. I think it was whichever diva cup model is the one for women who haven't had babies (1 or 2 I can't remember.) It was fine for a long time but eventually the rim started putting pressure like on my cervix or other organs and was really uncomfortable so I had to stop using it. I have thought about finding one from a brand that's thinner/smaller since I don't have a super heavy flow but I just don't want to be in pain again and have wasted money

No. 117543

Yes, you can still get that "period" when the birth control failed. Never trust your period when you're on bc.

No. 117569

Menstrual cups + IUDs - is the IUD basically guaranteed to come out?
I ask because I have a Paragard (copper IUD) and was spending upwards of $20+ per month on tampons because my period is so all over the place. It really adds up as a student and so far I’ve liked the Lunette cup bc I don’t have to buy tampons anymore. I’ve had my IUD for almost 2 years now and this is my second period with the cup.
Should I stop using the cup though? I’ve read some horror stories of cups pulling out IUDs but also seen OBGYNs say that the cup won’t pull it out unless you don’t break the suction. Plus my cup sits a bit lower than my cervix and my strings aren’t very long.
Should I be concerned?

No. 117572

I've had a copper IUD and used a menstrual cup for more than 4 yrs.
I've never had a problem, and my gynecologist (a woman) told me she's never seen anything like that happen, it shouldn't happen if you break the suction.

No. 118104

Is it worth it getting on a BC just for stopping periods? I'm not having sex and I don't plan on having any either. I feel really anxious and bad about my periods and I feel cramps all day in the first 3-4 days, it can be really annoying. I'll discuss it with a doctor but I'd like to know…

No. 118175

I'm on the combo pill and a couple of days recently I've been spotting. This isn't a usual thing for me and I've been on the pill for a while. I've changed timezones and am taking my pill kind of late, but this pill is ok if it's taken later vs the minipill afaik as long as you don't miss a whole day or 12 hours-ish. I did miss a pill and have to take it a day late last cycle and that caused spotting, but haven't made the same mistake. Could it be because I'm taking my pill several hours later than I usually do as I adjust to this? I'm sexually active too so this is probably important to ask in case I need to use a backup or have my bf not finish inside me for a little while.

No. 118240

taking your pill late and traveling could cause some breakthrough bleeding/spotting keep taking it till the end of the pack and taking the next pack in the new timezone should solve those problems so if its still acting weird after you start a new pack then something might be up.
but travelling always makes periods weird because it fucks up your bodies natural hormones to travel

No. 118434

I'm about to get the implant (implanon) in a couple of days. Anyone has any experience with this?
I was going to get the non-hormonal IUD but I am shit scared of the pain and also of it coming out. Also read some cases where the guy's dick can feel the thread hanging from the T and it can be painful. Imagine going through the awful pain of getting it in, just to have to take it out a month after?

Don't want to take combo pill because I am afraid the estrogen will give me melasma (darkening of the skin on the face, that stays forever btw) and also the blood clots. Progestin-only pills seem good but I am moving to a country that doesn't have them and you can only bring one month of pills with you so I'm effed. Only option left is the implanon hence why I am getting it, but I'm worried about the "decreased libido and acne" side effects.

As a side note, I've read in many places that there is no evidence that weight gain is related to taking BC.

No. 118439

IUD insertion isn't too bad. Take some ibuprofen beforehand and ask your doctor to use a local anesthetic, and it'll be less painful than dental work.

No. 118440

No local anesthetics are given for that procedure here.
Also Im moving away soon and I'm worried that I'm going to have the bad side effects in the middle of the move, etc

No. 118452

I had the implant (implanon) for over a year and I had a really good experience with it, personally. No periods at all, no spotting etc or weight gain. I’ve heard some bad stories about it though so YMMV

No. 118454

Yeah I guess there is absolutely NO way of knowing exactly how you will react to it unless you actually get it on. No way to predict the side effects. That sucks.

No. 118481

I've had Nexplanon in my arm for about a year now and no issues. The only complaint I have is I get a little queasy if I feel the rod under my skin (with my other hand, you will not feel the rod in your arm otherwise don't worry), but ymmv!
I was scared of insertion but I literally didn't even know when my doc did it bc I was looking the other way and felt absolutely nothing. Iirc it was a teeny bit sore in the next 3 or 4 days but it may have been my brain freaking about having something under my skin.

No. 118490

If you get an IUD inserted during your period, it doesn't hurt much at all. As other anons have said, everyone reacts differently to different birth control. I did have the string problem with my IUD at first but after about a month, the ends tuck up behind your cervix and your partner won't feel them. You can also get them cut shorter if that's still not enough.

An IUD can last 10-12 years if you get the copper one, 5-7 if you get the hormonal one. Nexplanon is only approved for up to 4 years, so it might help to think how long-term you want your birth control to be for. Whichever one you choose, take it easy for a few days after and keep pain meds close.

No. 118926

I got the worst acne on cerazette, huge seeping cystic acne ALL concentrated on the left side of my chin and going down in a diagonal line across my neck. I was on it for a few months but every day at least 2 new spots came up on top of all the others and with the 30 days of non stop bleeding that came along it just wasnt worth it. I stopped it and overnight the spots stopped appearing and it eventually went down but is scarred now. I am scheduled to have the Mirena put in soon and I've read some womens experiences with awful acne on that too. My doctor said theres no way to tell, but that it has less hormones than cerazette/ less hormones enter the bloodstream so it shouldnt be as much of an issue. Has anybody else experienced acne on the mini pill then switched to an iud and still had it?

No. 118945

I won't be seeing my BF for a few months so I decided to stop hormonal bc in the meantime. So far I already got my period or some kind of intense bleeding/bloating 2 days after stopping when I wasn't due for my period for another 3 weeks. I'm just wanted to know if my boobs will shrink back down to the size they were before bc. I honestly feel like a cow.

No. 118998

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have any farmers gotten an ovarian cyst with an IUD inserted? I had a Kyleena IUD inserted last October, and for about a month now I've been experiencing constant lower body pains, including my pelvis, lower back, and thighs. I thought it was from the way I position myself when I sleep, but I have what I can only describe as 24/7 period cramps. and obviously I still wake up with lower body pains even when I sleep in a way that's supposed to alleviate pelvic pain. I'm in my low 20s so it doesn't make sense for me to have this kind of pain right now.

I've had this IUD in for about 9 months now. the first 8 months were a breeze, no symptoms aside from greasier skin and really nasty looking periods. I've heard that IUDs can cause ovarian cysts, and when I saw that pelvic pain is a symptom, I'm now worried I might have a cyst. I scheduled an appointment with my family doctor for Monday, as well as an appointment with my OBGYN (but it isn't until August 20, ugh). I'll see what my doctor says on Monday, hopefully I can get a scan or something to see what's going on. I'm just wondering if anyone here has had this experience before. prior to my IUD, my periods weren't particularly painful, just extremely heavy (to the point where I'm anemic). I was on the pill for about 2 years and didn't have painful periods with that, I only stopped because it was giving me emotion regulation issues (which did not help my mental health).

No. 119276

Update on this because I'm in fucking shock. I went to go see my family doctor (the one that referred me to my OBGYN), told him about the pains I've been having and that I know they're not normal pain. Keep in mind that I have no idea how to deal with this, what kind of tests they'd have to run on me, this is my first IUD after all. All he did was just shrug and say "there's nothing I can do for you", since I suspect the pains are caused by my IUD. I tell him "I don't have my OBGYN appointment until August 20, they couldn't fit me in because July is completely booked out" and he tells me to just call and ask them to reschedule. Like fuck they can't just DO that. And even if they managed to fill me in if someone cancels their appointment, I still don't know how much sooner that will make my appointment. I even asked "is there someone else I can see?" and he says "nope!" and sends me on my way. I forgot to mention in my initial post that I'm on a bit of a tight schedule here, as I'll be out of the country early September and need to get this dealt with ASAP in case it's an actual health issue and I have to get surgery or some shit. And I don't want to go to the emergency room over this because it's not life threatening in any way, and I don't want to force someone in need of immediate care to wait. I can still function, I'm just concerned that it COULD become life threatening in the future, because this pain isn't normal at all. I'm surprised that he didn't even say "go to the ER if it hurts that much". I would have preferred to hear that over "I can't help you".

So I took his advice and called up my OBGYN just now. Explained my situation to the receptionist. She tells me "did he refer you to an ultrasound technician?", I'm like, no, he just shrugged me off and told me to call you guys so I can see if I can get my appointment moved up. Lo and behold, July is still completely booked out (shocker!). She seemed surprised that my doctor didn't even bother referring me to an ultrasound technician, since that's pretty much step one in diagnosing an issue that I suspect is caused by my IUD. So now she's going to talk to my OBGYN tomorrow and get me a referral to an ultrasound clinic. She told me that if I told my OBGYN about my pains during my August 20th appointment, all she would do is, surprise surprise, give me an ultrasound. I can't believe I had to call my fucking OBGYN to get an ultrasound scheduled, because my fucking family doctor just shrugged off my BODY PAIN as being a "girl problem" that only an OBGYN can deal with, apparently. It's a pain INSIDE my body, he only assumes it's a "girl problem" because there's an IUD in me. What the everloving fuck is wrong with my doctor.

No. 119280

I'm so sorry you have to go through that. Hope you get the help you need soon. I lowkey feel you. My left ovary has been out of control growing cysts all over the place. Most of them are small, but the biggest is now 7cm so the hospital told me in May the want to operate it as soon as possible. It sounded like I was a priority, but it's been like 2 months now and I haven't heard shit. I feel increasingly constipated as well which is probably connected to the cyst, I'm too anxious to have penetrative sex with my boyfriend in case the cyst bursts, I feel like I have to pee more often, random pains (luckily not too often) like.. I'm just stuck in limbo as if the operation isn't gonna suck as well (but at least I'll have some answers and relief eventually).

No. 119283

Lots of male doctors don’t take women seriously when they express issue lmao. It fucking sucks. It can be hard to stand your ground with a medical professional, but next time you suspect something, google what they do to diagnose it and specifically request it. If they refuse, ask them to note on their paperwork that they did in fact refuse. Sometimes that makes them backtrack. I’m glad your OBGYN is doing something for you in the mean time! I hope everything goes well and you’re treated fairly

No. 119291

Yep, a month ago I went to a doctor for stabbing pain in and around my ears, he actually rolled his eyes at me and sent me off after 10 minutes with ear drops that did fuck all. The hell.

I really, genuinely hope anon is okay. These situations are always so scary and unfair for the patient. When I lived in my home country our healthcare was a dumpster fire but at least you could say "I want x and y done" and they'd have to do it, here where they have amazing "free" healthcare you have to wait 4 months for an appointment or be dying, and unless you can't walk from the pain the doctors give you attitude. Mostly men, too.

No. 119295

My friend is prone to cysts and had a pretty huge ovarian cyst back when we were in high school. Her family doctor tried to tell her it was a digestive issue, went through a shit ton of tests for celiac, Chron's, and IBS. Found out it was a cyst much later. I hope your surgery goes well when it does happen! I have to ask, are your pains around your pelvic area?

I did want to bring up the possibility of cysts to him, but I was worried he'd just shrug that off too. Your advice is really good, I need to learn how to be more assertive. My mom actually warned me that our family doctor is like this about women's health. Either way, my OBGYN is a really nice lady and I'm beyond thankful that she's going to get a referral for me.

Wanna know what pisses me off even more though? When I was a young teen, I went to my doctor to have him look at this weird lump in my thumb joint that causes my thumb to pop whenever I move it (not painful, it's just unusual). He immediately got me an ultrasound appointment. When I complained about tonsil stones (not painful, but very gross), he immediately had me see a specialist. But the moment I'm feeling pain throughout my entire lower body and I suspect that it might be my IUD? Just talk to your OBGYN, maybe she'll magically clear our her schedule just for you!

Do you live in Canada? That's where I'm from. My boyfriend recently had to wait over a year to get a referral to a psychiatrist, and he still has to wait over a month for his appointment that he finally was able to schedule (it got to a point where he had to get his family doctor to call their office, and they actually straight up ignored his calls every time). I had a really horrible experience with a psychiatrist at the same office who, I shit you not, told me "you're not as insane as my other patients" and then tried to diagnose me with Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder because I liked to research the medications I was prescribed so I could avoid possible interactions (and then later he prescribed me something that DID interact with another drug I was taking). Sure is fucking hard to find doctors that actually give a shit in Canada, they're just so overworked that they stop caring altogether.

My family doctor is generally easy to schedule appointments with, but if you need any kind of specialized care, you're going to be waiting fucking months to get an appointment, which is typical but still very frustrating. It's kind of why this is scaring me so much, because it's not like I can just go to a walk-in clinic for this. I HAVE to go through my OBGYN, and her only available appointments are over 2 fucking months from now. I went to my doctor thinking he could point me in the right direction, but that's too much to ask I guess.

On the bright side, the pain seems to have died down a little. I'm currently on my period, but it's surprisingly light this time around. But for a solid month before my period, I was in so much pain. It started in my back/thighs/pelvis, and then as I got closer to my period, it moved to my uterus. I just hope that these pains don't come back after this period ends.

No. 119297

I was actually just going to ask if you were Canadian, I had the same experience with getting an ultrasound for my iud AND the same experience seeking out a psychiatrist.

No. 119300

Whereabouts? I'm near Toronto, about half an hour away. I've stopped seeing psychiatrists specifically because every single one has treated me like shit. The only one that ever actually gave a fuck was, unsurprisingly, a female psych I had in high school (that I can't see anymore because she only works with high school students). It's really frustrating that I had to go through absolute mental hell for many years and have it shrugged off most times (not just by doctors, but people in general who believe that mental pain "isn't as bad as physical pain"). Now I'm in physical pain, and I'm STILL being shrugged off.

Sage for mild OT.

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