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No. 35541

If you had a disabled or deformed child, would you get rid of him/her?
What about if you were informed that your child was deformed while you were pregnant?

No. 35542

I could live on disability so no

No. 35544

>>35541
ew you should of spoilered that. I would abort it. The costs of raising a retard for the rest of my life aren't worth disability benefits.

No. 35546

Id have an abortion.

No. 35547

Depends on the disability.
I could probably most likely afford to take care of one of the "simpler" disabilities like deafness, blindness, or lack of mobility.
But if they had Downs, noticable retardation, or severe to mid autism? I don't think I have the money, patience, or time to deal or take care of him/her.

If they were deformed, well so be it. If it's not affecting their behavior, health, hygiene, or intelligence, why should I care if they're defomed or not?

I'll probably get a lot of flak for this but oh well. Might change my mind when I actually want to have kids. Or probably not.

Another thing too, I hate when people criticize people for aborting their kids if they find out they have XXX. So what?
You're not going to be living with this child, so you have Monday on my life.


For example, when people say "She also aborted her kid because she found out it has Downs!!1!"
And then attack anyone who says it's not exactly a bad thing.

No. 35549

>>35547
Monday??
I meant to say 'no say'

No. 35550

>>35544
>>35541
This is her sister

No. 35557

>>35547

I agree, it does depend on the disability. If you can work with it and they can still work someday, then alright. It CAN work.

But if it's just… total cripple in a chair gawking then no.

No. 35560

Just because the mother may not want the child with the disabilities doesn't mean that there aren't people who will. The child, disabled or not, should still have a chance at life. There are many people with disabilities that have turned out to be very successful and do great things. Who are they to say that they shouldn't have that same chance for greatness.

No. 35561

>>35550
god its so creepy watching that thing's dead lifeless eyes roll around. I know that sounds harsh but I think its cruel to let it live like that. What kind of a life does she have other than shitting herself and drooling? Most of these retards only live for a few years so what's the point? I have a feeling the parents use the retard to gain sympathy/media attention/$$$.

No. 35568

>>35550
jesus christ
this is just an art project right? it's someone's tribute to david lynch right? this cant be real

No. 35569

>>35568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UwEQTME0oI

dear god
if these kids are even conscious, i'm sure all they feel is pain

No. 35570

>>35569
they have a normal son but you never hear about him
http://www.thehartleyhooligans.com/p/cal.html

No. 35573


No. 35574


No. 35580

>>35569
>>35568

They are concious, there's a video of one of them being sad and crying. Just because a human can't express his emotion doesn't mean he isnt concious.

No. 35581

Definitely abort. If the situation were such that I had the child and THEN found out about the deformities/autism, I would give it up immediately and tell everyone that it died.

I'd probably have the same kind of grieving period for an deformed child vs a dead one, honestly. So it's not so different either way.

No. 35582

In another thread I discussed how I feel women can have too much empathy sometimes. This is an example of what I mean. These kids shouldn't exist. It isn't fair on any of them, their parents, their siblings etc.

Mothers are like that though. Unfortunately. They love unconditionally, from a male perspective motherhood is really weird.

No. 35587

Ya, abortion. I couldn't do it.

No. 35588

I remember a boy, my age and he had something up with. His mother loved him too much when he was born… so she just raised him as best as she could. He was wheel chair bound.

He only made it to 10. I remember finding out about his death, it was pretty sad I guess. I often wondered what it would be like if she found out he wouldn't live to a certain age when she was carrying him… ;/

No. 35594

In all seriousness I think if I got pregnant I would have a mental breakdown and not know what to do with myself.

I do not want to have any fucking children, I can barely take care of myself already and I absolutely hate children because they are noisy, snooty and VERY dependent. I am also incredibly controlling and having a thing running around that I wouldn't be able to control would probably destroy me and itself.

But then there's the pressure from family who want me to pop out ninety kids so they can all be grandparents and aunties and uncles and oh my god why don't you have any kids yet? You'll be so lonely!!! All while I am sitting here horrified at the thought of just being pregnant.

Okay this got long.

No I wouldn't keep a deformed child.

No. 35599

>>35594

Don't have kids then anon? Enough kids are in this world without folks anyway, we're barely dire of anymore.

I think I would only have ONE child, if I had twins then so be it. If I could out I was carrying a cripple then probably abortion. I'd be doing it a favor, I'd feel sad over it but at least it wouldn't be living in a world of struggle and misery. Animals eat their babies when they're born if they've got sicknesses, I mean it's gross but it's saving them a life of living blind or poorly.

No. 35600

>>35594
Just get rid of it, that's what a lot of us do. Simple.

No. 35628

I could not be physically or mentally capable of having a child like that. It's just a drain on your family and life honestly. I would abort it without a second though.

Just because you child is 'alive' doesn't mean it's living.

No. 35629

only if I knew ahead of time, like with a genetic screenings test or even proof of a genetic disability in my family line. It's tough to make that choice after they are already born and it depends on how severe.

No. 35630

>>35628
>without a second thought*

No. 35631

>>35547
I would definitely abort a fetus if knew it was going to have downs.

>>35549
lol "You have Monday on my life" is like some weird Garfield phrase.

No. 35632

>>35560
What children with serious (and i mean legit serious) disabilities have done anything worthwhile in society? Name one.

No. 35633

>>35550
nightmare fuel

No. 35634

>>35560
> Just because the mother

Yeah about time a robot posted in here. Let me guess you're "pro life" But watch how fast you would bail if you got a girl pregnant and the child turned out to have downs.

No. 35636

>>35560
and you really think a child with a severe disability would get adopted? LOL. You are so delusional.

No. 35709

>>35568
>>35561
The saddest thing is that they aren't 1-5. They are 8 and 13.

No. 35713

No, I'm a natty woman with plenty of estrogen so I possibly couldnt do that.

But if I'd be informed that my unborn baby is an untermensch I'd abort.

No. 35715

I'm a student in social work, I've recently visited with my school a unity that take care of kids with heavy mental and physical handicap.

I would abort the thing right away if it was heavily handicaped. If the kid has down syndrome I would probably think twice about it cause it's still manageable, some people with down can work and have something of an independent life.

But a vegetable? Or a person who keep a two yrs old brains / way of fonctionning during their whole life? Hell no.

No. 35717

>>35550
that thing is scary af

No. 35718

>>35569
FUCK MAN!! It's fucking cruel to let them live. They show no sign of life

No. 35719

any handicap and abortion is go

No. 35720

How soon do you even get to know that your kids gonna be fucked?
Over here there's a 3 month limit to abortions, can you find out before that?

No. 35729

Women and expectant mothers, at least in the previous generation, are all really pushed to love their children unconditionally no matter what the child is like. Most people just aren't capable of that, everyone knows plenty of normal people who have absolutely terrible relationships with their parents.

My brother is disabled, and my mother declined to have any tests done whilst she was pregnant with him. She'd convinced herself she'd be able to love him no matter what, when in reality she's a selfish person with narcissistic traits who probably heavily regrets even having one child who turned out fine. He was born with a severe disability, and although he surpassed the expectations they had of him (They said he'd never walk or talk and he just passed exams for normal kids, albeit at a slightly older age.) he is hell to live with. No one can ever talk about just how annoying disabled people are to be around 24/7. I don't think a day goes by that my mum doesn't secretly regret having him.

Sorry for the blog, thought people might be interested in some first hand experience.

No. 35730

>>35720
Here we have a 4 month limit. But there is the eventuality that doctors will offer to terminate the pregnancy even if it's in a very advanced stage (even a the ninth month) if the baby show sign of extremely heavy handicap. You can't really ask tho, it's the doctor that must evaluate it and propose it.

No. 35731

>>35730
Oops, I meant ;
You must ask the doctor tho, the medical team cannot force it on you or even suggest it. The law surrounding this kind of pregnancy termination is super stric.

No. 35742

I'd abort it, get rid of it.

If it's a slight disability, or something that keeps their mind more or less average/intact, that's fine, but if they'll be developmentally stuck at 4 years old, I'm noping the fuck out of there.

It's a waste of time, effort and resources. They'll never be useful to me or society.

No. 35749

>>35742

Exactly, if you can work around the disability and it'll be alright. That's fine.

But yeah, if it's just a vegetable in a pram shitting its self… what's the point? ;/

No. 35750

>>35547
I agree

No. 35758

>>35749
>vegetable in a pram shitting its self
All of my sides

No. 35761

I would honestly have an abortion. They say the lab tests and ultrasounds aren't 100% correct and what might seem like an issue could just be a false positive or whatever but I wouldn't want to take that chance

No. 35770

I agree with most of you guys, I'd be fine with simple disabilities as well.

I'd abort a child even if they just had a deformity that doesn't really affect them in any way other than their looks. If I ended up keeping the deformed kid, I'd most likely shelter them like mw does to foreverkailyn since I wouldn't want them to get bullied. I know everyone gets bullied, but I think it would be a billion times worse for someone who's really weird looking/ugly.
Plus, as shitty as it sounds, I just don't want an ugly/weird looking kid. It's not even because I only care about looks, deformed people just creep me out tbh.

No. 35776

>>35761

I know because once it's there, you'd get charged for murder and banged in the slammer cos you produced a mongy child.

No. 35777

>>35770

Same, just like the staring at you like O___O

It'd creep me out too. Sounds cruel but it just would. People go on about "aw but a mother's luv is so strong u'd luv it" pfft a mother's love, a mother would do the loving and right thing: abortion therefore her child wouldn't suffer.

No. 35778

>>35777

Not saying that I wouldn't love it. I would have loved it because it was mine even though it's deformed/crippled. But at the same time, I'd be doing it a favor all the same.

No. 35781

What would you guys do if you brought this into the world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwxMBkcpLFE

No. 35782

>>35781
Pls spoiler. Harlequin ichthyosis is nightmare fuel even when it's just an illustration.

No. 35783

>>35782


People can live with it though

No. 35787

>>35781
Depends, did I already give birth to it? If so:
Cry

And then put it up for adoption.
And if I never give it up for adoption?
Love that little being even though it'll freak me out enough not to touch it. Or if I knew it may not live too long.

Honestly I don't have the guts to click the video. But just by looking at the thumbnail I feel that one little bad touch, or regular touch could send it into a world of pain.
Horrible seething pain.

Anyway, if I was pregnant and I found out there is a high chance it'll turn out like that? Abort the hell out of it.
Sorry, not sorry.

No. 35788

>>35787

Apparently it'd born in pain :( because of the open skin cracks… Jesus. I think if ANY woman found out she was carrying that, she'd abort it. Guy would agree too I bet.

No. 35789

>>35781
jesus fucking christ. it almost made me puke

No. 35791

I was eating cereal when looking up that skin condition on google images and it almost made me actually vomit.

No. 35793

>>35781
That picture is fucking disgusting, but like >>35783 said, they can have a relatively normal life with medical care. I'd be really hesitant to abort for any condition that doesn't affect intelligence and doesn't result in a very early death.

No. 35794

>>35793
But you see, you said the right thing. With medical care.
On a personal note, I can barely afford my own, so why would I keep them? And I would imagine it would be ALOT of care to keep them alive, and the chances of them living initially are pretty dim.

I would also feel bad after giving birth and hearing them cry. Crying not because that's what babies sometimes do when they are born, but most likely crying out of pain and being born.

No. 35799

>>35788
Not that a guy's opinion matters in the end when you're the one carrying the fetus.

No. 35800

>>35781
Kill it immediately.

No. 35803

>>35729
It's sad but disabled people are just not meant to have a good quality of life. Sure there are few that can adapt in the world, but they'll never be normal. It's just biology and having a disabled kid is a failure and people need to get screened more when they are pregnant to determine this.

Like you said, there is a pressure to love your child no matter what, but that is unrealistic. Having a disabled child means your life becomes nothing but caring for that child forever.

No. 35804

>>35794

Yknow I think Life isn't meant to always be perfect and good. My brother has bone cancer and sometimes he's screaming till hat falls unconscious but when The pain isn't too Bad he likes to play cards and listen to rock music, his favourite movie is 8 Miles and he knows all rap battle by heart.

So yesterday I asked Him If he would rather have been aborted than living and suffering his whole life and he told me that There are moments in his life where he feels so lucky and happy that all The pain is forgotten and he feels strong again.


Being born ill\retarded isn't tragic or unfair , it's just lucky to be born healthy.
People should stop taking Their healtiness for granted.

No. 35805

>>35783
>People can live with it though
So fucking what? Their quality of life is going to be shit and the parents will probably be drowning in medical bills for the rest of their lives.

No. 35808

>>35793
There are like less than ten examples worldwide of people living with this condition to adulthood. The vast majority of them die painfully from systemic infections.

No. 35811

>>35805

who are you to decide if the quality of someones life is bad or good???

No. 35816

>>35804

I mean, good for your brother, but i knew a girl with bone cancer who used to scream for death and hated her parents for forcing her to stay alive. She said it was selfish for them to keep her in constant pain, and the only time i saw her smile was on the death bed.

>>35811

Quality of life is basically how self sufficient and not in constant pain you are.
Someone in a vegetative state has a very low quality of life, for example.

No. 35817

>>35808
That's so sad.

>>35811
Someone who isn't a selfish piece of shit. if you are keeping a child alive because you feel bad, you're an idiot. They cannot work or contribute to society and live in a constant state of pain. People are pressured to love them because otherwise they'd be ridiculed. It's bullshit. Abort it.

No. 35824

>>35803
>Having a disabled child means your life becomes nothing but caring for that child forever.

Exactly. And it pushes that burden onto other people once you've died. If you have a disabled kid and you already have, or have a normal kid in the future you've just fucked their life up as well. For the longest time, my life plan solely consisted of killing myself, because I didn't want to have that life.


>>35804
>Being born ill\retarded isn't tragic or unfair , it's just lucky to be born healthy.

But most of these people are not healthy. The problems that make the intellectually impaired also impair or deform them in other ways. I can't think of a single disability that doesn't have an set of associated problems, which the person usually dies from. Down syndrome people usually die from heart or kidney problems, they have high blood pressure and extreme difficulty loosing weight. Even relatively normal autistic kids have horrendously painful stomach issues.

No. 35836

If I discovered it was going to be disabled during the gestation period I would abort.
If I discovered it was disabled after birth I would release my parental rights.

I know a woman, a friend of my mother, who decided not to abort her daughter when doctors discovered that she was missing half of her brain. There's no real name for the condition, her brain just didn't form one half of itself for some reason, and the result today is that she's 24 years old and has the mental age of a 3 month old baby.

All she can do is shit, eat and cry.
She can't speak, she can't walk, she sleeps in a crib with a baby monitor and is confined to a wheelchair where she sits placidly, her head lolling and her eyes staring blankly.

A lot of people think hr mother is "noble" for deciding not to abort but honestly, I think she's bound by her sentiments and emotions, and that she made a stupid mistake. The toll that her disabled daughter has had on her has aged at least 20 years and she pretty much ruined her life the moment she decided to keep her.

There's no reward in keeping a child that. You will never, ever get anything back out of it for all your effort and sacrifice.

The saddest bit is that you can tell that her daughter would have been very beautiful if she hadn't been born a tard.

Actually the saddest bit is that her only other child, her perfectly, healthy, functional younger daughter, died in a car crash last year.
When we heard the news that her "daughter" had died we initially said "Oh dear, what a shame, but we all knew this day would come eventually, after all she is severely disabled".
Then we found out it was the other daughter. Damn.

No. 35843

Like others have said, it depends on the disability. If its something like deafness or maybe they'll need to use a wheelchair or whatever then I'd keep them.

If it something that severely reduces the quality of their life like being in pain, being horribly disfigured or mentally deficient then I'd abort. Slight disfigurements are ok though. I'd feel bad as a parent if they were bullied but I think they could still have a nice life. I knew a girl born with a missing arm and she was otherwise well adjusted and happy as well as extremely pretty.

This thread is depressing though and makes me think like, what if you had a child that was perfectly healthy but only later in life you find out somethings not right with brain or they have some awful underlying illness? Or what if they get into an accident and become paralyzed or turn into a vegetable?

Im never having kids fuck this.

No. 35885

>>35843
Have kids please, the west is dying and we need more babies.

No. 35889


No. 35890

>>35836
>I know a woman, a friend of my mother, who decided not to abort her daughter when doctors discovered that she was missing half of her brain. There's no real name for the condition, her brain just didn't form one half of itself for some reason, and the result today is that she's 24 years old and has the mental age of a 3 month old baby.

>All she can do is shit, eat and cry.

She can't speak, she can't walk, she sleeps in a crib with a baby monitor and is confined to a wheelchair where she sits placidly, her head lolling and her eyes staring blankly.

>A lot of people think hr mother is "noble" for deciding not to abort but honestly, I think she's bound by her sentiments and emotions, and that she made a stupid mistake. The toll that her disabled daughter has had on her has aged at least 20 years and she pretty much ruined her life the moment she decided to keep her.


That sounds awful. How do you not abort knowing it's going to have half a brain? Your mother's friend is selfish.. and now her life and her child's life is a waste.

No. 35893

>>35885
The west is not dying. And this planet needs less children if anything.

No. 35911

>>35893
Yes, birth rates in the west are getting lower and lower. People are having less and less people and we are suffering from an aging population.

Africa and india are overpopulated, they indeed need to be having less children.

No. 35924

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ITT: Nazis

No. 35925

>>35911

Good. Humans are a disease inflicting this planet and the less of us the better.

No. 35995

>>35911

Africa and india n' china just need condoms

No. 36004

Holy fucking shit.

No. 36008

>>35925
So you wouldn't mind if white people went extinct?

No. 36010

>>36004
That's so sad. Imagine having to change its diapers for the rest of your miserable life.

No. 36011

>>35541
I think a lot of these parents who keep severely retarded kids have some kind of munchausen by proxy syndrome and they love the attention they get for it. I'm sure they're eating up being called a wonderful person and a savior for putting a retard through a miserable life. Plus raking in the cash from broadcasting the retard on tv for people to gawk at.

No. 36014

>>36004
this is horrifying

i went thru her channel and she has 2 kids like this of diff ages

meaning they had one retard and kept trying in the hope that they could have a normal child, but failed again

can you imagine how they felt and feel? all this effort and pain for nothing

No. 36016

>>36011
It's probably just because they get cucked into it by society. A lot of these deformations and problems are only found once the kid is born, by that time is too late and it's not socially acceptable to just dumb the retard at an orphanage.

No. 36020

>>36014
Their channel is extremely disturbing. These "kids" do nothing, and the mother personifies them. It's like having a rock and assigning it motivation and emotions.

No. 36021


No. 36022

>>36021
One more article before I go to bed

https://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/2ff4sx/i_hate_my_autistic_son/

I'm terrified of having kids because of this. What if one of them turns out to be a subpar retard?

No. 36029


No. 36033

Looking back 20 years it is amazing to see just how far we have come in how we handle kids with down syndrome. If given the choice, I would actually much rather have a kid with down syndrome than autism.

But I never want to have kids…so yeah.

No. 36034

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>>36029
this is her channel description…

No. 36036

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>>36029
Lol the related vid that came up for this is perf

No. 36037


No. 36038

>>35824
To build on anon's first comment, my aunt and uncle had only one son and he was born heavily autistic. My uncle was upset, but my aunt took care of literally almost all the work so my uncle was whatever. A few years ago my aunt passed away and my uncle became so bitter so fast. Not only did he lose his wife, but now he had to take care of an adult with a child's brain that he honestly probably never loved.

I seriously have not seen or heard from them once since my aunt passed away.

On a similar topic, I always remember hearing one story about my cousin when he was 16 or 17 (before my aunt died) where he had somehow recently learned about masturbation and they couldn't get him to stop. He'd start doing it at home, at school, in the car, once at the grocery store and I have literally never been so disgusted in my life. This was my absolute turning point for losing all hope or tolerance for retards. I would never ever keep a child like that, it would be gone with no second thought.

No. 36040

>>36011
I feel the same way. The parents who adopt retards and other kids with mental handicaps might just love the glory they get outside the house, but inside they're miserable.

No. 36041

>>36014
It's stupid idiots like that that need to be sterile. I have a friend who has a religious uncle and him and his wife had 5 kids. Every single one turned out mentally handicapped. They got told by the doctor they shouldn't keep trying to reproduce but the uncle said it was god's will. What the fuck…

No. 36044

>>36038
>masturbated everywhere
Ugh, that's so gross. I can imagine trying to get some milk and eggs at the grocery and seeing some giant, fat retard trying to jack off. People use autism as an insult a lot online, but people with severe autism really are worthless and contribute nothing to society.

No. 36047

>>36038
That is so fucking disgusting, I can't even imagine dealing with that. I feel so sorry for your uncle.

I have to say, people who can deal with disabled people are the strongest people on the planet. I think if I was stuck with a disabled person I'd most likely end up abusing them, trying to kill them, and/or trying to kill myself.

No. 36064

>>35560
This kid is leech, stupid, worthless, will never accomplish anything. Abortion is the merciful thing to do.

No. 36065

>>36036
kek
I love the la beast

No. 36082

>>36008
Nah, not really.

No. 36083

I always tell my mother to kill me if i EVER get into a horrible accident, have a stroke or smth that may make me brain dead. Fuck, I would not like to live like that!!
I would not like to make other people's lives miserable by making them clean my shit.

No. 36114

>>35885
Yes please.

No. 36116

>>36008
Don't ask anon.
you'll only get niggers replying while pleasing themselves with the idea.

No. 36117

>>36014
They knew early on in the pregnancy that the second one was going to have the same condition as her sister, but decided to keep her. Fuck those parents.

No. 36118

>>36029
And this kid is 8 years old.

No. 36119

>>35781
I'd shit myself if I gave life to this creature.Creeps the shit out of me. It doesn't even look human

No. 36190

>>36008
Hey, at least all the "hurr darkies" racist-chans would be as dead as me too

No. 36208

I suppose I could handle some sort of physical disability but after seeing my parents struggle with the care of my violent autistic brother.. welp I couldn't do that shit. Not for the rest of my life like they will. Abortion all the way. Or care if it came to that. It's only what would happen when the child has no family left anyway.

No. 36209

Have to say there's a fair bit of sheer cuntishness itt. Can any of us really say until we have that choice. Carried that child around, gave birth, held it, looked into its eyes. I'm inclined to think i couldn't do it, but I also think if you bring a genetic fuck up into this world then it should probably be your responsibility. I have seen the lack of support that many parents of mentally disabled children get though and that's pretty awful

No. 36215

>>36044
I work as a teacher in an elementary school and i remember this one autistic child feeling himself during the assembly. As the headteacher was talking about the topic you could hear the faint moans coming out of that childs mouth….i had to sit next to him….im still not over it and every time i think of it i just want to puke.nobody stopped him too
I hate my job so much

No. 36251

>>36011
Im sure all that attention doesn't really make up for the fact that after the cameras turn off, they have to care for a grown up who can only eat and shit.

No. 37074

We're already overpopulating this earth. Aborting the tards would only benefit us.

No. 37107

>>35550
Kek, I used to have a webm of someone replacing the audio with super mario sound effects. It was hilarious as fuck.
WAIT HERE IT IS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHEUX_3O0c8

>>35541
>deformed
As long as their deformity didn't impede their ability to live a conscious, happy life then probably not. If it would be something severe and life-threatening, then yes.

>retardation of any kind

Automatic abortion. I don't think it's ethical to let a human slowly suffer and not live a full life. Worse yet, place that burden onto the state or someone else if and when you cannot take care of the retarded child/adult.

My adult cousin lived to be 45 with Down's Syndrome. He was a three year old in a man's 6'5 body, and my aunt refused to give him to the state. So my aunt and uncle raised him all his life. He could do basic functions (ride a tricycle), but he wasn't toilet trained very well and he didn't know how to prepare meals. He'd rage on his parents, giving them both black eyes and bruises, and do other crazy shit like eat raw meat from the fridge if he got hungry. Whenever I'd visit I'd have to be careful about my body movement, speech, and eye contact because he was capable of attacking people if he got angry at them.

But at least they loved him. I do think my cousin did have a concept of 'love' towards his parents. After both died, he died not too shortly after while in state care. It's sad though to think of the suffering those people went through for essentially no real purpose. I like to think what their lives would have been like without my cousin, but then again, it was a different time. Abortion was unheard of and preliminary testing for chromosomal problems was nonexistent. Can't blame em for doing their best with their situation.

No. 37110

>>37107
>6'5 retard with a child's mind

fuck that shit. That is dangerous

No. 37120

>>35561
I remember looking up kids like that because I was curious about how the parents handle it. There are entire websites dedicated to families who chose to bring hopeless pregnancies to term rather than abort even though their child is often horrifically deformed and retarded and may not even live a few minutes.

The anencephaly babies are the ones that really get me. There's no way to them to survive and they look like nightmares brought into reality. Why put yourself through that when you can try again for a healthy child? At best they might live a few months or maybe a year as complete vegetables with a festering wound where their brain should be.

The kid in the video looks like they might be suffering from a milder form of anencephaly. By mild I mean the skull is at least closed up. but the poor kid is basically brainless with just the brainstem to perform reflexive functions.

If you look at the video Lola loves to eat, notice the sucking reflex she has for being fed with a spoon? It's totally reflexive. It's only there because mammals are preprogrammed to do that. It's the same as a cat or a dog or a little mouse. It's just reptilian brain function.

If I was pregnant with a badly deformed or disabled baby I would abort. I just can't handle taking care of it. And I think it's cruel to let kids like the ones in those videos be born.

No. 37124

>What do you think, hun??

Nuthing cause she has no brain. OMG this is so disturbing…

No. 37125

I could never have one. I feel like it would propel me into mega mental illness. I would blame myself for what happened to my child, think of it as my fault every time I looked at them.

Also, children (and adults) with disabilities are often abused and I'd be terrified that if something happened to me, some sick fuck in an institution would molest my child…

No. 37127

>>37107
I feel horrible for saying that I'd abort a fetus with a severe retardation like down's syndrome, but you listed the exact reasons why I would do so. I used to go to school to a place that had a school for kids and teens with down's syndrome and other mental retardation and they required constant caretaking and watching over, had to be pampered around the clock, they couldn't function in any normal way. I don't think it's ethical to give someone a life where they're basically babies for tens of years with a lot of health issues (people with downs usually have a heart condition and other things) and possible pain just because the parents didn't want to have an abortion. And if they had siblings, all the time would go into taking care of the one child and leaving the others to the side.

My friend had a little brother that had severe autism to the point they couldn't talk at age 8 and only communicated with roars and groans, had violent episodes and other things. I simply couldn't take care of a person like that, but of course autism doesn't really show up in preliminary tests. But severe deformations where the baby will probably live up to 5 years at tops and requires constant surgeries and hospital visits and all of their actions rely only on primal reflexes? Why would you want to expose a human life to something like that?

No. 37132

>>37124
the mother is such an attention whore

No. 37133

>>37124
Jesus fucking Christ, I am scarred for life. What is the condition that this girl has? This is terrifying. What the fuck dude???

No. 37138

>>37124
this is like a metaphor for the human condition or sth. "good girl" i'm so disgusted holy fucking shit i can't

No. 37139

>>37138
Yeah the "good girls" bugged me too. Sorry if this is mean but for me she is talking to dog learning his trick or to a smart monkey :(

No. 37141

nobody need to feel bad for saying they would abort a disabled child.

No. 37143

We have so many perfectly healthy children without homes or born to useless junkie parents or whatever as it is, so I would abort. I could be using my time helping them live normal productive lives, rather than raising something that doesn't even know what the fuck is going on.

Dude, the only health issues I suffer from are seriously minor compared to all this and I can barely cope with life's pressures as it is. It would be a sad existence knowing your child is never going to be independent. It's selfish as fuck letting someone live a life like that. It would hurt me so much more, knowing that my child couldn't do normal things, than aborting it in the first place. If you don't abort how are you going to make room for a potential healthy child? Keeping the mentally handicapped one won't allow you to give birth to another kid, if we look at it that way. Hospital bills, constant care - fuck that.

As if the planet isn't overpopulated enough as it is…

No. 37144

>>37143
Also I don't understand how mothers who have severely disabled children are seen as being amazing and strong. In my opinion what they've done is bring a waste of space onto the planet. It's a different story if the person becomes handicapped later in life or there were no signs before birth - we should be taking care of THEM! If the doc tells you your kid is going to have severe problems and you have the option to abort who in the right mind would allow that impending life of hell for both child and parent(s)?

No. 37147

im hoenstly shocked that tumblr hasnt gotten on this subject. on one hand everyone is super "muh able bodied privilege" but hey're also pro-choice.

No. 37149

She looks like a troll doll.

No. 37150

>>37147
I've seen sjws talk about this. Some consider prenatal diagnosis or even trying to find a cure for these disabilities to be genocide. Because being mentally retarded or dying at 5 years old is just one of those harmless differences that make us unique, and wanting to prevent these unfortunate circumstances is exactly the same as wanting to kill all jews or whatever. They call it "neurodiversity".

No. 37151

>>37139
not mean at all. a smart chimp is more capable than this abomination. i don't feel bad saying this.

No. 37153

>>35550
this is the channel's description:
I am a real-life, damn near Snow F'ing White (super pale AND gifted at dwarf wrangling) from the Midwest who blogs semi-regularly about my kids' antics, my husband's sketchy facial hair, my Jekyll & Hyde whippets, and shitting myself. When I'm not cleaning up random bodily fluids (from the kids, ya' pervs!), I find time to share about my unique life raising a typical child & two profoundly disabled children, laughing all the way.
xo
what the fuck

No. 37157

>>36004
I think what's worse is that they're almost using her as a prop!
When you do that with a healthy baby, you can gauge it's reaction. It laughs or something, or drools a bit at least.
Looking at these people do that, it feels like a freak show, except that they pat themselves on the back for "bravely handling such a challenge."

No. 37164

>>37149
To be fair it's just her appearance that's affected, right? She seems intelligent enough.

No. 37205

>>37157
I agree, it's really disturbing.

I also agree with what another anon said earlier, it's disturbing how the mother personifies them. It makes perfect sense when people personify their babies and/or pets, because it's obvious they do actually have personalities. These girls are nothing more than vegetables. If they had any sort of personality, we'd at least see them display some sort of emotion or something. (They don't even seem to react to pain which is something they're most likely feeling constantly.)

No. 37206

>>37205

So much bullshit in one post wow

No. 37251

>>37132
I remember that actress with Downs from American Horror Story, Jamie Brewer, saying that Sarah Palin was using her disabled baby as a prop to gain sympathy/attention. It made me realize how that kind of thing must make people like her feel. She was grateful that her mom was just like everybody else's mom, not a "brave, self-sacrificing warrior who is so incredibly selfless and inspiring for dedicating her life to the care of a helpless retard :((". Not that this woman's daughters could comprehend that, but the point still stands. It's got to be very dehumanizing to those who are aware of what's going on around them.

No. 37354

Does anyone remember that christian girl who banged her priest and had a baby without a brain? Her daughter "lived" for about a year. The mother had a blog where she posted pictures and videos. The baby always wore a hat, it didn't look that freaky on the first glance. I wish I remembered the blog and her name.

No. 37356


No. 37358

>>37356
Yes! That's her! Thanks anon!

No. 37459

>>37356
>This morning I woke up and the first thought that came into my mind was how thankful I am for you and that Jesus is taking care of you. On days like today it's as if God is looking at me, and then I look at Him and we both smile. I can't wait to be with you both in Heaven. Happy birthday, Faithy! Mommy loves you <3
her beliefs scare the shit out of he tbh

No. 37460

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No. 37461

>>37356
I fucking hate christians

No. 37707

I would abort any unhealthy child. Then again I don't really want any children in the first place.

No. 37710

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>>37356
I wonder what she looked like without the hat. She isn't as scary as the BSRs in the OP but you can tell something is off with her head shape.

No. 37711

>>37710
well baby's skulls aren't all connected when they're born so my guess is since it didn't have a brain to give it shape its skull was all pushed in.

No. 37713

>>37149
It fucking pisses me off when people post on these videos like "awww she's so beautiful!"
I just imagine the poster thinking to themselves "right, I've forced myself to altruistically call this fugly child beautiful. When is my good karma coming?"

No. 37715

>>37710
You can google image search anencephaly if you are really curious. But it's pretty bad and you will see a lot of dead babies and aborted/miscarried fetuses. If that's too much for you don't do it. You'll never unsee.

You can also read the story of Baby K: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_K

No pictures. But it was a famous case of an anecephalic baby who's mother insisted upon keeping her alive despite the situation being hopeless. Many people thought it was inhumane and doctors refused life sustaining treatments because the condition is not reversible or really even treatable. You're just doomed to a vegetative state with minor reflexes like sucking until you finally stop breathing. While the parts of the brain that control breathing and heartbeat automatically are there they don't work very well without the missing parts of the brain. So eventually the baby just dies.

The organs are usually well developed though. Some people have suggested using anecephalic babies as organ donors. But it gets into moral issues because while they'd be best used before the baby dies some people think it's cruel and violates the sanctity of life.

No. 37717

>>37149

Poor little bean.
Her cognitive function appears entirely unaffected however. I don't see any reason as to why she couldn't go on to live a completely normal life given the right medications and treatments to keep her healthy.

No. 37729

>>37715
'sancitity of life'
what bullshit. anecephalic babies are the human equivalence of lizards essentially. functioning entirely on the primitive brain. except, at least lizards aren't so useless and suck medical resources up.

No. 37730

>>37713
I don't think she's beautiful, but I think she seems cute, and pretty mature for such a young kid (obviously, since she deals with such a severe problem). i thought her little presentation was adorable.

No. 37731

>>37149
shes fine mentally though. i see nothing wrong with this, her quality of life will be okay for the most part. atleast she can function.

No. 37739

Damn this makes me want to get my tubes tied today. I know some women who have raised kids with various disabilities that prevent them from just functioning like "normal" human beings–being independent, capable of dealing with day to day life on their own.. And not only is it incredibly taxing on the mothers, but the poor kids really have a hard time struggling through life every day. I just hate the thought of giving up my own life to bring yet another unhappy person into the world.

No. 37744

I know, I know; I'm stupid and selfish and so on, but if I was pregnant with a deformed or disabled child, I wouldn't be able to abort them. I mean, there are some obvious exceptions, like if it were a Harlequin baby or had its brain outside of its skull, well, its not going to survive anyways. Most non-viable fetuses abort themselves. Fused fingers, club feet, down's syndrome? Bring it on.
I'll love that motherfucker anyways.

No. 37748

>>37356

Ugh this blog disgusts me. WTF am I reading?! This bitch is in such crazy denial about her baby… why would you make it suffer for so long without top of its fucking head and no brain. She even chose to keep it, tube it, even have a c-section knowing about the birth defects?
My dog had a puppy born the EXACT same way and it survived overnight until we could get it to the vet the next day, and it was so heart-breaking to see it live like that. Sick, crazy ass bitch.

No. 37750

>>37354
I want the deets about her hooking up with her priest/preacher whatever. How did it all go down when people found out? How did they actually find out? What happened to the baby daddy?

No. 37761


No. 37768

>>37461
same here
that woman is so brainwashed

No. 37773

>>37354
Does she actually admit to having sex with her priest? I skimmed her blog a bit and haven't seen her mention him or any thing about a father.

No. 37774

>>37761
>>37773
Sorry, posted before reading the whole thread.

No. 37776

Sage for whining/personal blogshit, but both my brother and I are assburgers (wow, what a surprise, given that like half the people on both sides of my family are on the ~autism spectrum~), and I was born with pretty bad functional GI problems. I also turned out to be a mentally ill fuckup. My parents honestly should not have had children in the first place, but I wish they'd aborted at least me, if not both of us. My brother seems like he may go on to be a productive member of society, but I was the type of baby that, hundreds of years ago, would have been left out to die from exposure or some shit. I know my parents regret having me, and, if they'd been able to see into the future and know what I'd turn out like, the sane choice would have been to terminate the pregnancy. Jus' sayin'. I understand why people don't want "disabled" children. Personally, there's no way on earth I'd even consider passing on my genes.

No. 37777

>>37776
are you blaming your parents for not aborting you?

No. 37778

>>37777
Did you read my post? I said "I wish they'd aborted […] me" and "if they'd been able to see into the future and know what I'd turn out like, the sane choice would have been to terminate the pregnancy." I didn't say that I "blame" them for not aborting me, but whatever.

No. 37794

>>37761
Thanks anon, shit is like a soap opera

Also fuck her for making her baby a martyr for her shitty religion. There's a video of a couple who decided to have their Trisomy 13 or 21 or whatever baby and you can clearly see the baby struggling to breathe but they're talking about how they've been blessed by God and they would never have gotten an abortion because religion despite doctors telling them their baby was only going to live a few days and suffer the whole time. They make me sick, fuck people like that.

/rant

No. 37803

>>37150
It's pretty much only autistic people who say this shit, and the reason they say it is because they have no empathy. Someone saying autistic people are a problem makes them feel bad, which to them, is a thousand times worse than the problems caused for other people. Anything that makes them feel bad is always going to come first for them. They'd rather other people exist and suffer the same problems than them than admit they're a fuckup.

No. 37804

>>37744
>I'll love that motherfucker anyways.

You won't. This is the worst lie you'll ever tell yourself.

No. 37864

>>37206
Point it out pls cause I don't see it

No. 37865

>>37744
Yeah you'll love it but along with that there's also resentment and regret at your whole life being fucked up.

unless you're an idiot and can somehow overlook that. I don't know you, but I do know it's not as easy as you seem to believe.

No. 37866

>>37157
It's sad but it's probably just a coping mechanism. If you don't laugh you cry sort of thing.

No. 37870

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No. 37872

>>37804
Never doubt the potential for love; especially a mother's love for their child. I'm sorry that you don't believe it's possible.

>>37865
>having kids and not expecting your life to be fucked up anyways
I prefaced the post with, yes, I am an idiot.

No. 37873

>>37870
What are Mira's baby pictures doing here?

No. 37875

>>37461
>>37768
Well, we fucking love you.

No. 37876

>>37873
Ayyy lmao

No. 37878

>>37761
Oh man. I know I'm in the minority, but I feel kind of bad for her. Look at the baby's perfect little fingers. With the hat on, she looks pretty normal. I can see why they'd pretend it's okay, even if it is just a farce. There's no reason to blog about it though.

No. 37879

>>37873
omg i see it

No. 37880

>>36034
>>37153

Yea I posted it a while ago and it shows how obvious of a fucking attention whore the mom is.

No. 37881


No. 37882

>>37872
I'm a disabled carer, this isn't some hypothetical guess on my part. Human love is conditional, not unconditional. People hate their children for all kinds of inane reasons, ruining someone's life is not a trivial matter.

No. 37883

These things look terrified. If they can feel emotions that is.

No. 37885

>>37883
> say bye girls!!
This woman is fucking nuts

No. 37891

>>37883
at least stop forcing these creatures into your human lifestyle. it's like seeing dressed up monkeys in movies, except the monkeys probably comprehend more of what's going on

No. 37911

>>37885
>>37891
What the hell should she do? Smother them with a pillow, or keep them in a cage? Both parents are trying to make the best out of a shitty situation.

No. 37917

>>37883
She should have quit trying to create any more living creatures after her first reject was born and they told her it was likely it would happen again. They literally have no quality of life, ie constantly sick, seizures. Putting them down would be humane, especially considering they have a perfectly healthy son who probably gets way less attention because all of its going to the sissy twins.

No. 37925

>>37917
It's obviously too late for them to stop trying.
I know you're speaking out of compassion for them, but it's a lot different than putting them down like an old sick dog. Even if you see them as 'less than human beings' its really hard to just snuff the life out of something, well, I mean it should be anyways. Maybe I'm just idealistic hold others to the same standards of morality that I hold for myself. I don't know; I used to think just like you though.

No. 37926

>>37925
** too idealistic and hold others to

No. 37927

>>37911
>>37925

They really don't have a life though. They can't understand anything that's happening. All they feel is pain and they are extremely expensive to take care of.

Would you want to live the rest of your life in a vegetative state 100% dependant on others?

No. 37929

>>37927
If I were like them, I probably wouldn't be aware to realize how shitty and not normal it is, lol.
If they feel pain, do you think they are also capable of feeling pleasure? I mean like being talked to softly, rocked, having lullabies sung to them? Like regular stuff that babies love? I know they aren't actually babies, but.. you know, it's nice to hope.
All life is pain, anon.

No. 37935

My brother has neurofobromatosis, it basically means he's lumpy all over, luckily not much on his face but his body is all warty looking.

I'm deffo getting myself tested for the gene, and deffo aborting if my kid has it. I wouldn't wish that life on anyone. Why bring more suffering into the world than there already is?

And I hate that "oh but what if you'd aborted your brother" argument. Then I'd have a different, healthier, brother or sister, whom I'd love just as much. I mean, should I be sad about every sperm that didn't make it to become my sibling?

No. 37937

>>35811
Are you serious? From a purely medical perspective, there are relatively objective measures of quality of life. Being a drooling vegetable with a plethora of health issues and a low life expectancy isn't a high quality of life.

No. 37938

>>35816
Sad. What do you guys think of euthanasia for children? They do it in Belgium.

No. 37941

>>36209
You have no choice over the genes you have, so no it's not your responsibility beyond your decision to relinquish responsibility. Abortion is the kind choice.

No. 37943

>>37461
So edgy muh atheism

Do you hate Islam too, or is that too bigoted to say? Kek

No. 37948

>>35632
Donald Trump's running for president.

No. 37951

>>37882
I don't know, man. I like practice unconditional love and forgiveness at an unreasonable level. Like I actively read about terrible, terrible people who do terrible, terrible things so I can practice /not/ hating them or wishing them harm or suffering.
Even if human love is conditional, I know someone who's love isn't wink wink >>37460

No. 37952

>>35632
No one really makes a difference for society as a whole. It's more about making a difference on a personal level, in my opinion.
Is autism serious enough?

No. 37954

>>37803
Autistic spectrum-diagnosed anon here (formerly "Asperger syndrome" before it all got lumped into "autism spectrum disorder"). The idea that autistic people "have no empathy" is definitely not universally true. Some of them are lacking in what's called "theory of mind" and struggle to put themselves in other people's shoes, but others actually experience an overwhelming amount of empathy, so much that it's painful/hard to know how to deal with.

Oh, and for the record, I fully admit that I'm a fuckup and should have been aborted, but too late for that, eh? I'm "high-functioning" (so many people would jump down my throat for using that term, but I don't know how else to describe it), but impaired in some regards, and I wish my parents had had the chance to have a normal child instead of one with problems. At least I'm independent enough that I don't need them to wipe my ass for me. I'm definitely not having any kids, and, even if I did want kids, I'd abort if I knew my child was going to have a problem that would severely impact their quality of life. And yeah, quality of life is somewhat debatable when it comes to things like "high-functioning" autism, but when your kid's missing half their brain or something and you decide to carry them to term and pretend like they're a miraculous gift from god…ehhhhh…no. That seems like selfishness on the part of the parent.

>>37948
Thanks anon, I lol'd.

>>37952
I doubt they're counting autism; if they are, they're ignorant or just dumb. A lot of famous/important/influential people are autistic or, in the case of historical figures, are interpreted as having been based on the evidence we have available to us about their lives.

No. 37955

>>35541
Lol at OP pic file name

No. 37958

>>36004
That's scary. Almost feels like they're laughing at her. It's like she's a disturbing toy or something

No. 37959

>>35550
Scary. Why can't they adopt a rabbit from a shelter than having a baby like this? Rabbits are cuter and they would probably be smarter and definitely lower maintenance than these children.

No. 37961

>>37958
>>37959
That's their fucking child, yo. And the deadpan face every time she pops up is hilarious. It's probably better for their mental health in they have fun instead of just solemnly feeding, changing and putting it to bed. It's also some sort of stimulation for the tots.

No. 37969

>>37954
It's funny how you typed an entire paragraph solely about yourself in response to a comment about how autistic people aren't capable about thinking about other people.

No. 37979

>>37911
by pulling their indifferent bodies around in a hottub? by putting it on youtube? yeah, right

No. 37980

>>37929
I can respect your very calm, sorta Buddhistic approach to life and living beings. At this point in my life I'm too cynical to see it that way, though

No. 37981

>>37938
100% for it. Belgium is doing it right. You guys should watch "The right to die in Belgium" (I think that's what it's called) by PBS. At the very least ending your own life should be a basic human right!

No. 37983

>>37961
It's not deadpan, anon. It's dead. There's nothing going on behind those eyes.

No. 37985

>>37969
Yeah, it's pretty amusing that I responded to the OP's post. No one else in this thread did that.

No. 37986

>>37985
Oh, and in case you care, which I doubt you do, here's one research paper on what I was talking about with regards to autism and empathy: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3010743/

TL;DR: Autistic people feel and sense too much, not too little, and it's overwhelming to the point of interfering with their functioning.

No. 37996

I hope you people realize that you wouldn't be able to abort a baby with autism. You only find out after they're born that they have it. At that point it would be murder. Js

No. 38002

>>37996
we don't even know if autism is congenital or genetic. we don't know shit about autism. also i don't think we should lump autistic people and kids without fucking brains into one group.

No. 38003

>>38002
That's why I find it ridiculous that people here are saying they'd abort their autistic kid

No. 38004

>>37996
There's a big push for finding genetic markers for autism, and one of the potential applications of that is so in the future, people would be able to identify and abort autistic children-to-be. And a lot of people actually do murder (or at least abuse) their autistic children.

No. 38005

>>37996
I have siblings with mild autism, and we didn't find out until they were already toddlers. by that point you can't exactly get rid of them.

They aren't hopeless cases either, like the kids without brains or this >>35550
creepy thing. I agree with >>38002 but this thread is full of 2edgy people.

What would you guys do if you had a child that was later diagnosed with terminal cancer at a young age?

No. 38012

>>38005
My son is about to be 1 in a few weeks and I'm terrified of him being diagnosed with, well, anything really

No. 38013

>>38002
Well done on reading the thread. Autistic people were brought up because they're usually the people campaigning against genetic testing and natal screening for disabilities.

No. 38014

>>38004
I suppose it would be about as difficult as finding genetic markers for schizophrenia or any other mental health issue. It's a long way off unfortunately

No. 38015

>>38003
>>37996
I was one that said that I would abort a kid if I knew it'll have disabilities such as retardation, autism, downs, etc.
I would still do so if it had a marker or something I could look for. After the fact? Adoption. I don't have the patience to deal with them, and I'm not trying to gain any either. At least if they are up for adoption, they have a better chance of another family adopting them (with the chance they won't, but hey, that's the choices you make). Or you know, place them in a group home.
>>38005
Terminal as in they would never be cured? Well if they're in pain, then I'll either let them live out their days, or I would put them down (euthanize them). I'll probably end it before they get into too much pain though(if they have any). But this thread isn't for that, because I'm sure you can't outright tell if a kid is going to develop a cancer in the womb.

And no, this thread isn't full of 2edgy anons, they just don't feel that people with disabilities that would most likely leech off of the system useful, and I honestly feel the same. Or they just don't have the time/patience/love to take care of them.

Lastly, some people get abused by disabled family members (doesn't even have to be a family member, I recall some scenarios where the handler wasn't watching them, and then they attacked other people.) themselves. You can say they don't know any better until your face turns blue, but I hate it when I hear stories where the disabled child was beating/threatening/attacking the other children(usually younger), and didn't get any repercussion because they ~know no better~ and we should ~stop being mean to them~. That type of bullshittery you know? I'm not subjecting my normal kids to that.

Only thing stopping me from abortions are pointy shit going up into my vagina.

No. 38017

>>38015

>Only thing stopping me from abortions are pointy shit going up into my vagina.


That's what mifepristone and misoprostol is for anon

No. 38018

>>37205
The personifying stuff just makes me sad tbh. My mom's coworker has a daughter that is 16 and practically a vegetable. She can't talk, can barely maintain eye contact with the family, but the mom always insists that "Oh, she just LOVES Disney!" or "Cinderella is her favorite princess!"

It's like they want to make themselves feel like their child is capable of normal thought.

No. 38020


No. 38021

>>35582
>implying it's not fake sympathy because women don't want to be ostracised by other women

No. 38022

>>38015
>I don't have the patience to deal with them, and I'm not trying to gain any either
Please don't have kids. All kids are basically retarded for the first ~6 years of their life.

No. 38023

>>38021
On an anonymous image board?

No. 38024

>>38022
Why shouldn't I? And no, some kids aren't ~retarded~ under 6. I know many not intelligent, but smart ass 3-5 year olds. I probably have the patience for that, as I know how typical kids are already, but honestly if you're above 8 or 10 and I have to care for you like a baby and witness meltdowns? Nope. Can't do it. Won't do it, because I'm not going to jail when I could have aborted it or have it up.

I may or may not have children, I may just adopt, but only time will tell.

No. 38025

>>35582
Oh stop it, there are so many women who have no business being mothers because they lack any kind of motherly instinct and would never be able to love unconditionally, including myself. Yes, having incubated a creature in your body for 9 months will probably do sth to you but it won't necessarily be an emotional attachment. In fact it often is the exact opposite.

No. 38027

>>35594
I relate to this a lot. Except I don't have anyone pressuring me into that shit, thankfully.

Had a nightmare in which I was heavily pregnant and it was amongst the most horrifying things I have ever dreamt. In the dream I could think of nothing else but cutting myself open, stabbing myself,…It felt so real that when I woke up I was covered in cold sweat and the sense of relief was intense.

Yeah, not gonna have children. The fact that I have a uterus is unsettling enough, to be quite honest.

No. 38028

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>>35541

Only if it came out like Leonardo Dicaprio's character in What's Eating Gilbert Grape. Because dammit, Arnie was just too cute.

No. 38030

>>37864
because it's not there. what you're saying makes perfect sense to me.

No. 38031

>>38028
good point, anon. i wouldn't wanna end up as a pedo mum, though

No. 38032

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>>38031
You'd end up dying due to obesity, life is short anon.

No. 38034

"Autism" encompasses a really wide range of severities of the condition, or possibly (IMO) even multiple different conditions. It's pretty unfair to lump all autistic people together and stick them in the same group as people with anencephaly and severe mental retardation and shit. Some autistic people (I'm thinking of my brother here) don't even come off as anything but a little weird. Even if there was some way of detecting that shit in the womb, I wouldn't abort a future kid like that, but if you're talking shit like the kid in the OP's picture, that's a totally different story.

No. 38048

>>38022
They can at least learn and improve. There's no hope for a real retard.

No. 38049

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>>38032
right. so i wouldn't even have to live with the guilt for too long

No. 38050

>>38034
absolutely, anon.

No. 38060

>>37929
I don't know but you never see these things smile or laugh. All they do is stare blankly into space or cry in pain. So I would guess no. And who knows maybe they are conscious of what's happening but just can't react which would probably be worse than just being a vegetable. One of the girls is like 13 so they aren't babies.

No. 38073

>>38060
They do smile a couple times in the videos, but it's honestly more like a grimace than anything else. It's probably not a response to anything.

No. 38075

Also this kid has microcephaly (which is apparently what those two girls have), but I find him really charming tbh. His motor skills seem good, he's able to walk, he has an obvious personality and it looks like he's having some success with using sign language.

Still, he's got to be a very rare case. He and his parents are lucky.

No. 38081

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Abort or not?

No. 38093

>>38013
you mean people on tumblr who claim they're autistic?

No. 38308

>>38075
jesus,he's sooo cute!!

No. 38312

>>38075
10/10 would not abort

No. 38323

>>38075
Aaah, he's such a cutie pie oh my goodness

No. 38324

>>38075
He's cute now.
He's not going to be cute when he's 20 years old and still can't talk and throws tantrums.

No. 38342

>>38324
He'll probably be much better at sign language at that point since he seems to have the capacity to learn. Even if that's not the case, there's no reason why he can't have a good quality of life with some assistance. He's hardly a vegetable and obviously doesn't have severe retardation.

I wouldn't abort if I knew my microcephalic baby would turn out like him, but unfortunately idk if there's any way to tell before they're born.

No. 38343

>>38342
Retardation means delay, not absence, he clearly is slightly retarded at least. Not disputing his quality of life though.

No. 38344

>>38343
Can't argue with that. He definitely has it to some degree.

No. 38387

>>38075
If you go to the blog of the mother of those two girls, they have other problems besides microcephaly. he might be able to live if he only has the one problem. those other two girls have no hope.



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