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No. 140660

Let's talk about hosts and hosts club.
Gossip about hosts
How can i get away from host clubs
etc

No. 140661

Yall are top tier pathetic.

No. 140662

I know each to their own and all but, I don't understand how anybody could be attracted to men that look like little bitchboys that couldn't punch their way out of a wet paper bag.

No. 140663

>>140660

ewww 5 of them are ugly as fuck, and the remaining one is covering is face so maybe 6

No. 140664

Moo

No. 140665

Shokai for 500 yen or for free
But otherwise i wouldn't go

No. 140666

Are these things supposed to be attractive?

No. 140667

I've never understood the appeal of this sort of look. They look so twinky and beta.

No. 140668

>>140667
That is the appeal

No. 140669

A lot of foreigners like vkei hosts

No. 140670

>>140667
I can see how they can fool girls with the clothes and hair, but looking more closely I don't know how anyone finds them attractive. I've still yet to see one objectively attractive host in real life/candid photo.

No. 140671

>>140660
these boys wear more makeup than all of us on this site combined, and they're still God awfully ugly. Stop being a fucking weeb. Problem solved.

No. 140672

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>>140670

I feel like they're trying to artificially recreate the look that actors like Jun Matsumoto have naturally, but they don't understand that less is more and take it way too far.

No. 140673

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If I walked into a kyabakura and these were the kind of guys serving me I'd burst out laughing and walk straight back out.

No. 140674

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I think they all think they look like this though.

No. 140675

>>140674
Yeahhhh I think you're right. They're trying way too hard.

Also why do they all have mullets?

No. 140676

There's a Vice "documentary" called The King of Hosts or something and the main dude is sooooorta ok looking. Subjectively I wouldnt fuck it but objectively I can see why someone might be into him.

Anyway ugh ew such a shame Japanese guys aren't as attractive as anime boys >.<

No. 140677

>>140672
All these pathetic girls still blow all their money so they must be doing something right….

No. 140678

Ugh, the stories I could tell about hosts.
I have to walk through Kabukicho everyday to get home, and they all look so gross and disease ridden.
Their life style isn't as glamorous as they paint it to be either. I have a good friend whom I met while he was a host, and he was miserable and I kind of pitied him and felt sorry for him. He isn't a host anymore, which is good, because he is too good of a person to be sucked into that kind of industry.

Buuuut, I guess hosting is one of the few options open for Japanese men who didn't graduate high school….

sage for blogish post

No. 140679

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He is kinda popular

No. 140680

I know the Japanese entertainment media glamorize hosts, but I always thought it's are a terrible job to take on. From the movies I've watched, they have to serve, flirt and whisper sweet nothings to their clients, sometimes including sex (CMIIW). I don't know, that sounds pretty depressing to me.

No. 140681

>>140676
here you go anon

No. 140682

and then there's this jerk

No. 140683

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>>140660
Host clubs seem like a step up from Hooters to me.

No. 140684


No. 140685

>>140681

I remember this fucker. Oh jesus… the guy makes a killing too. Shame because he looks like a total dog

No. 140686

>>140679

Cute but I bet he has genital warts

that's not very kakoii kawaii now is it?

No. 140687

>>140678

Ew I can believe it. I live in the UK and I got chatting to some Jap guy from Tokyo and he was living here for language school. He doesn't want to go back to Japan, he wants to find a woman and visa basically. Bit of a perv, not best looking and he used to be a host. Told me the stories through his broken english. Being mind this guy was 25 years old and he told me he met up with some girl off Hello talk and she was 16/17. Not sure what happened between them, I don't want to know. Guy was trash as hell.

Argh

No. 140688

>>140678

Host clubs are the japanese chavs slightly classier but just as trashy and pathetic

No. 140689

>>140673

Kek

Me too anon, me too. I wouldn't be able to keep a fucking straight face.

No. 140690

"Why girls pay for hosts"

I can't find the full documentary but it was basically the daily life of a host

No. 140691

"Why I became a Gigolo"

Basically school boys who never graduated and hit rock bottom

No. 140692

A few guys work there while going to university

No. 140693

Hosts are really gross. They work 10-12 hour nights and spend most of it drunk. The women are even worse because they suck cock to make extra money just to spend it on hostboy clubs –where the guys will continue to lie to them. It's basically a club from grimey men and pathetic women who like to be lied to.

No. 140694

>>140693
Gross
All hosts got std s

No. 140695

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Disgusting foreigners are working at host clubs now

No. 140696

>>140695
Lmao this guy looks like trailer trash. I guess the Japanese really do think all white people look the same.

No. 140697

>>140695
>>140696
Looks way better than all the Japanese ones imo, not that that's a high standard but still. He must be trailer trash level if he's doing this though.

No. 140698

>>140695

So everyone can be a host bc this guy is way below average. The kind of guy you see from a far in a blind date and think "oh fuck…"

No. 140699

>>140697
You must be blind. If he would come to my table while shokai .. I would stand up and leave

No. 140700

>>140695

He looks like the stupid one from Coronation street (brit-fags will get it)

No. 140701

>>140699

Agreed. But then again the Japanese think any white person below standard is handsome.

No. 140702

>>140699
>>140701
I'm not saying he looks good, I'm saying imo the Japanese hosts look worse. Maybe if they didn't style themselves so stupidly I wouldn't think so.

No. 140703

There are sooo many gaijin in kabukicho looking for hosts
Ew

No. 140704

>>140695
Dear god is he inbred?

No. 140705

>>140680
I think the least appealing part is the drinking, the amount and frequency they drink must make them ill half the time. The idea makes me feel sick, though admittedly I'm bad at drinking.

No. 140706

I went to a host club once because a friend used to be there almost every weekend and I wanted to experience it first hand, but it was just so loud and flashy and uuugh…
The guys were extremely boring as well, and there were quite some underage kids.
Luckily I have a cute husband at home (he knew I was going and didn't have a problem with it).

No. 140707

>>140695
Damn, is their white fever that high? This guy is below average.

No. 140708

>>140705
Hosts do have quite a bit of health issues due to excessive drinking.

No. 140709

Found this club when some ugly gaijin said he used to work here. Oh, baby. Oh, baby.
http://www.first-group.co/#!%E7%9C%9F%E6%9C%A8(%E8%A3%9C%E4%BD%90)/zoom/ckea/image_bkz

No. 140710

>>140709
How the fuck does someone that fat and hideous become a host??

No. 140711

Hosts have their own YouTube channels called Host tv and something with kabuki.
In some videos when they go to trips to show how much "fun" working as a host is and also how ugly they actually are when they remove their make up.
But one particular video caught my attention. They are using a child to promote hosting/male prostitution. Look at that weird looking guy and how uncomfortable the boy (who also was styled to look like a host) is around him.

No. 140712

>>140711
Wow that's low. I've never seen a kid with dyed hair in Japan before, what kind of school does he go to?!

No. 140713

>>140710

christ

No. 140714

>>140711
I remember when Ryuchalo was introduced to the masses on that Matsuko Deluxe show. Girls Channel really blew up and they didn't hold back their disgust towards the mother. This thread has some great comments and dirt.http://girlschannel.net/topics/217817/1/
At least it looks like that little boy's look has been toned down these days. Before, he was nothing more than his mom's dress up doll.

No. 140715

>>140712
Right? Most high schoolers still get shit for dying their hair. This kid has to be, what, still in elementary school?

No. 140716

>>140714
What kind of mother would do that to her own child? He seems to be afraid of her always looking at her for confirmation as she is controlling all his movements

No. 140717

>>140714
Is she also working in the red light district?

No. 140718

>>140711
That poor kid looks miserable. Isn't it really dangerous to dye a child's hair that young? Fucking irresponsible parents.

No. 140719

>>140717
More than likely. She's trashy as fuck.

No. 140720

What always confused me about seeing hosts is their fashion choices. Like yes it's ugly and yes they aren't attractive most of the time, but what I don't understand is their actual clothing???

Like they legitimately look like they haven't updated the host 'look' since maybe 1999. If you look at movies from Japan which show hosts from like 2000 and look at the VICE documentary, the guys are dressing exactly the same. Is it normal in Japan to dress that tacky if you're a host? Because you look at regular street style and it is almost the complete opposite.

Idk I feel like hosts would do a lot better if they looked more current? Like doing the trendy minimalist/natural look instead of a VKei reject from 2002.

No. 140721

>>140720
I think they're trying to look like the drawings from animes and mangas. The problem is that cartoon fashion generally doesn't translate well to real life. But you've got thirsty girls out there who wish their 2D husbando was real so they go for the look I guess. But I agree with you, they look ugly af.

No. 140722

>>140720
Nah they toned down already
No kira kira suits and weird hairstyles.
They are wearing normal clothes now

No. 140723

>>140710
some like their men fluffy

No. 140724

>>140722
I was in tokyo 2014, lived close to that heavily packed host area and lol yeah they look tacky! Haha, you can spot them a mile away, hair and makeup usually looked like a barbarella/dolly parton nightmare

No. 140725

>>140660
Ok, so besides the ridiculous hair and OTT clothing there's a certain something that really bothers me…what the fuck is up with their eyebrows? Why do they make them so…pointy?? Is this some sort of Japanese aesthetic? Am I missing something?

No. 140726

>>140662
Girls that did not develop well, we also have plenty of weebs here who genuinely like feminine guys.
>>140663
Judging by unfortunate nose shape and eyes, he's really UGLY.
>>140725
ANIME aesthetics, they genuinely want to look like anime-boys.

No. 140727

>>140725
>>140726

Though a number of Japanese people have naturally pointy eyebrows. Pointy and short

No. 140728

>>140727
Their brows are pluked.

No. 140729

2 top right and bottom right are so fucking ugly, the rest are average at best. Club Prince my ass.

No. 140730

>>140711
omfg, who is that hideous albino wraith-like creature?

No. 140731

They shave their eyebrows off and draw some ugly brows on

No. 140732

>>140711
That blonde dude looks freaky. His teeth remind me of that one episode of Friends, when Ross had his teeth insanely whitened.

No. 140733

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host club manwhores are ugly.
Bara-cafe is the real deal. Your food is served by sexy beefy men.

No. 140734

>>140733
aw hell yeah, that's my sorta of cafe

No. 140735


No. 140736

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No. 140737

>>140729
The one to the left of the two super uglies on the right looks like his face got flattened and it turned into a pancake. He looks like a stingray or the moon emoji.

No. 140738

>>140733
fuck yeah!

No. 140739

>>140733
Now we're talking!

No. 140740

>>140720

Most hosts look like they haven't bathed idk they look sweaty, trashy and smelly

No. 140741

>>140711

He looks like a blonde marlin manson

No. 140742

>>140733

Male hooters eh? Bring it on :)

No. 140743

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>>140733
Yes, just yes anon
hnnng

No. 140744

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oh Come on, why won't anyone post more ugly hosts and repeat how ugly they are?

No. 140745

>>140744
Host hair always reminds me of old women. Like age 55+ white woman style.

No. 140746

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>>140745
Dropped pic.

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No. 140748

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white male hosts

i bet she had a field day

No. 140749

>>140747
I can't tell what's uglier, left or right one.

No. 140750

>>140749

It could be jrcach for all we know

No. 140751

>>140748
Fucking top kek. Those white hosts look like the biggest betas. Especially that Bill Nye looking fucker on the right, except Bill Nye has more game than that guy. There are no standards are there?

No. 140752

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>>140744
God they all look disgusting.

No. 140753

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^Have some more eye candy, anon. Mmmhmmm…

No. 140754

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>>140742
It's your lucky day anon

No. 140755

>>140754
I wonder how many of them are gay

No. 140756

>>140754
>>140755

As wonderful as it is I would feel semi-turned on and yet alarmed to death just walking into a place like that. I shit myself walking past guys pumping it out at the gym in their little area let alone going into fucking… what's it called… Tallywackers!

No. 140757

>>140755

kek

Tally "Wackers"

I bet ten of them have at least took a trip down the chocolate escalator

No. 140758

>>140756
Embrace your fear and dive into that whole lot of beefcake.

No. 140759

Why do Asian men think pulling this perpetual scowl is attractive?

It's fucking weird. You see it in modelling pictures, anime, everything.

No. 140760

>>140759

they think they're kakkoi

No. 140761

>>140711
I know this is a dead thread, but holy shit. I fucked that blonde guy in the video. He was terrible and his make up was terrible. kek.

No. 140762

>>140761
Oh? Do go on…What led you do sleeping with that guy? Got any candids?

No. 140763

>>140761

Yeah, Anon, give us details!

No. 140764

>>140761
Honestly at first i thought he s not even that ugly, but in motion…

No. 140765

>>140762
>>140763
>>140764

Ask and you shall recieve, anons! Going to sage this right now for a long-ass blogish post. Unfortunately, though, I don't have any candids, but I wish I did, he looked like a mix between Marilyn Manson and Detox out of drag but with Asian features.

So, I live near Shinjuku and i can easily walk home from there if i need to, but I have to walk through Kabukicho if I want to get home. Anyway, I was out drinking with my friends at an izakaya and then some bars for the night, and they all went home at around 1 AM. There was no way in hell that I was going to get on the very last train of the night on a weekend, so I decided to walk home. So I was walking through Kabukicho around the time when hosts get off of work and go home in a drunken stupor. I stopped at a convenience store to buy some hot tea and some bread cause I didn't want to be hung over the next day, and he was in check out line behind me.
After I left the store, I noticed that he was walking the same way that I was, so I occasionally looked back, cause he was kind of creepy, and I don't like being followed. The last time I looked behind me, he was getting closer and started to say something to me.
Now, I was super drunk, so I started talking to him, and he asked me why I was alone and where I was going, what I had done that night, etc. About five minutes into the conversation, he asked me if I was hungry and if I wanted to go to a restaurant. And he was gonna pay, so I figured, why not?

After we ate, I said good bye and started walking home again, but he started walking with me, and asked me how far it was to my house cause he had to take out his contacts. So, he basically assumed that he was going home with me. It had been a while since I had any action, so I figured, why not? Hosts are usually really kinky shits anyway, and that's right up my alley. I handed him my bag and made him carry it for me all the way to my apartment.

So, we get to my apartment, he takes his face (eyebrows) off, and takes out the eyelid fold tape that some people use here. I swear it was like a different person was standing infront of me. So after a few awkward moments of idle conversation on my bed, he pulls me to him and kisses me.
It was one of the worst kisses of my life. You all saw how big his mouth was in the video, right? Yeah. He was basically eating my entire face. And he kissed with his mouth open and just left it open. No tongue or anything, just a hanging open mouth. Like, how? Why? Whatever, so I tell him to bite me cause it's gotta be better than his kissing. I was wrong. There is a right way and a wrong way to bite someone so that it actually feels good as opposed to hurting. He bit me like he was diving into one of the giant smoked chicken legs that you can get at ren fests. It did not feel good at all.
His body wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either. But his dick was so small that I almost laughed at him when I finally saw it.

The way he fingered me was like how a high school boy with his first real vagina would finger someone. And he couldn't even find my clit after I guided his hand to it five times.

I just wanted it to end, so I told him to put on a condom and put it in. Thank god he was trying to talk dirty to me cause he he hadn't had said "Yes, I'm all the way in. You can feel all of me, right? Tell me I feel good." I would never have known, it was that small. Like, almost a micropenis.
he only wanted to stick to missionary and he moved like a fucking jack rabbit! I'm so in awe of how fast guys who don't know what they are doing in bed can thrust. But it didn't feel good at all, and he came in like, 5 minutes.
He didn't want to use any of my handcuffs, shibari rope, lube, toys, whips, nothing. It was super unsatisfactory.

So after I went to pee (cause no one likes a UTI), I told him that I was super tired and that I wanted to go to sleep. He moved over on my bed to make space for me, but I looked at him, gave him his underwear, and said "I can't sleep if there is another person next to me, sorry. Plus, the trains are running now, so you can go home."
He looked really confused, but I handed him his clothes and brushed my teeth while he got dressed and went out on my balcony to smoke. After he was done, I walked him to my door and said "Thanks for supper. This was fun. Night." And closed the door in his face.

Until today, I didn't know his name cause I never asked for it. He hasn't tried to contact me beacause he doesn't have any of my information, so he can't.

Annnyyyway, that was my story, sorry for it being so long and bloggy.

No. 140766

>>140765
Was the restaurant nice at least ?

No. 140767

>>140766
It was a yakiniku place, so not super fancy, but it can get pretty expensive depending on how much meat you eat. And if there is free meat involved, I can put it away like there is no tomorrow. Haha
But those and izakayas and ramen places are usually the only places open at 2:30 AM

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>>140765
No need to apologize, that was a bit cringey but just what we asked for. I think if blog posts belong anywhere it's /g/ anyhow.

No. 140769

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>>140765
That was wonderful anon. Everything I could've ever hoped for.

No. 140770

>>140765
Oh man, anon. I would love to hear more storys from you! This might not be the place, maybe we could open a thread for most laughable sexual "conquests"? I used to read a blog on tumblr years ago that read a little like your post, and i loved it. Great laughs were had. Btw you probably listed my top three turn offs there with the bad kissing, unwillingness (imo bc jesus christ) to find clit and bad biting. I'm surprised you were kind enough to let him fuck you, lol.

No. 140771

>>140770
Not that anon, but thought you had a great idea so made it here >>40196

No. 140772

>>140771
Thank you! Bedfucker story has me chuckling still lol

No. 140773

Are there any legitimately attractive hosts? The guys I read people raving about… jesus christ, I swear they've never actually seen an attractive Japanese man. I mean I understand the attraction to the clothes and style but too many of these cunts have busted faces.

No. 140774

>>140765
This has to be the cringiest thing I've ever read on Lolcow.
God…

No. 140775

>>140770
>>140771

I have so many more stories like the one I posted here! Thank you for making the thread!

>>140773
There are some, but they're very rare. But yeah, for most hosts, you take away the clothes and the make up and the pineapple waterfall hair, and they are actually kind of unfortunate-looking.

No. 140776

>>140775
they're unfortunate looking even with the clothes, make up and hair.

No. 140777

>>140765
Thought you would never deliver so thanks. This is amazing

No. 140778

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>>140773
literally not one host is attractive. i swear to god you have to be an ugly fucker with tacky style in order to be one.

No. 140779

they would be fine without this ridiculous yugioh hairstyles..

No. 140780

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>>140765
>he takes his face (eyebrows) off
Oh god.

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>>140765
>He bit me like he was diving into one of the giant smoked chicken legs that you can get at ren fests.

That was just too much. I had to step away from your story because I was fucking dying. I'm so sorry you had to experience that.

No. 140782

>>140770
I would love to hear more host stories on this thread!!!

No. 140783

I know a Japanese guy, not very handsome, fucked up teeth, drinks every night, cheats on his gf, super racist.

He works as a host.
So yeah, hosts seem to be scum of the earth.

No. 140784

>>140779
No…no. their hair is the least of their problems

No. 140785

It was around 3am
I was on my way to the konbini. A tacky host with awful white pants approached me and followed me inside the konbini. He started to whisper dirty stuff in my ear. At the cashier , he pressed his boner against me. Ew

No. 140786

>>140785
Should've called the police.

Hosts just aren't attractive to me, the freaking hair and those clothes and the stupid personas are just such turn-offs.

No. 140787

Although almost all of them look terrible, not all hosts are terrible people.

I have been saved from groups of gross, drunk salary men harassing me by a host intervening and walking with me until I was in far away from the salary men several times. And they do it without expecting me to go to their clubs at all. But I think those kinds are rare breeds.

No. 140788

>>140787
Yeah some of them are nice
One host also helped me while i was beeing followed

No. 201737

i want to go top dandy. somebody went there? how was it?

No. 351077

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blonde host from the video.

No. 351078

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No. 351086

OP pic scared the absolute shit out of me. Why'd you necro this?

No. 351104

>>351086
This is actually really interesting
>this guys would be incels if it wasn’t because of makeup
>only in japan incel hooker service

The world is crazy what the fuck

No. 351116

>>351078
This is really the same guy? Wtf everything looked better before ps, if he'd just put the same foundation over his skin abs styled his hair it would have been a better result

Also what video is this even in relation to?

No. 351136

>>351116
>>351078
wtf is wrong with people. he looked completely normal before, but he looks like an albino tranny lizard after the ps. he would have looked average to good if he just took better care of his skin and cut his hair, instead now he looks like an autogynophile whos trying to look like a kpop idol.

No. 351287

hosts have extremely bad BDD. and the few i've actually spoken to outside of their clubs are like insane. mad insecurity and paranoia about their looks, requiring constant validation and feeding their BDD with shitty PS.

No. 351337

http://kabukiboys.tumblr.com/

I remember reading host stories on this tumblr and waiting for them to update so I could know all the weird deets about some of these host boys. The sex stories are still up lol. Ah memories…

I wish there was still gems like this around that someone would bother to run

No. 351368

>>351337
This was my fave, I miss it
What do girls do now instead of this? I want to snoop on someone's diary in the way that this let me

No. 351678

>>351337
>>351337
Same. I believe I learned about that blog on here. I think the owner got married and out of the host scene these days. Just like with fyeahtanuki (visual kei gossip blog) it'd be cool if someone new would take over and give us some new juicy stories.

Does anyone know if it's possible to retrieve a former host on hostlove? There is this butai actor guy who has had host past rumors, but because his host name has never been known I don't know if it's possible to find him over there, even with some serious digging…

No. 352104

>>351078
Lmao he got surgery to get a crooked white nose. I'm surprised as fuck is that the reaso why a lot of Japs have crooked noses?? No wonder white weebs want to be Jap cause unattractive white features are wanted over there

No. 352169

>>351678
>this butai actor guy
As in a 2.5D actor?

No. 352196

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>>352169
Yes. It's this guy. He hasn't really appeared in any major production yet, but I really like him.

In short, his older brother is a (also not too well-known) visual kei vocalist, so browsing through some old Tanuki threads I read some rumors regarding his younger brother allegedely working as a host in Shinjuku. That was before his acting career, and he did live in Tokyo back then. It could be just some baseless rumors, but I became curious. Also because this is what he used to look like a couple years ago (right picture), very host-ish like. Nowadays he has cleaned up his image quite a bit.

I hope this won't be too OT. We could start a 2.5D rumors thread perhaps.

No. 352204

>>352196
You're the first person on this site that I've seen mention 2.5D/butais, IDK how many here would be interested but I would definitely be down for a general 2.5D thread.

No. 352224

>>352204
I'd be down for it. I'm not too too knowledgeable about 2.5D/butai in general though, just some specific actors and specific stages. I know that Enstars is pretty big and full of drama, so a 2.5D/butai thread could potentially attract its fandom, even though I'm not sure we'd want them here, lol. So I'm not really sure…



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