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No. 110243
>>110240>using the term PoC unironicallyAm I being rused?
>And she won't starts a damn nuclear war She wants an even more aggressive stance against Russia.
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No. 110268
>>110238Single-issue voting is bad, anon.
Our city elected a mayor in the wake of the gay right's boom because he had a man for a spouse.
To date, he's spent six billion dollars of taxpayer money on a highway renovation which was doomed to fail from the start. He started a city-wide bike share service which costs more than gas and takes longer than a car due to non-existent bike infrastructure outside of the tourist/rich neighborhoods. All that and he recently took a substantial amount of money out of the firemen's budget to paint rainbows over all the sidewalks in an entire district.
If you're supporting a presidential candidate because you think they can make common sense mandatory, I've got some bad news for you.
No. 110319
I like Trump on a few things, but I just feel like he'd be way too reckless as president. Probably going to end up voting Libertarian this year to get some of their views more in the limelight. I don't consider myself a libertarian, and I'm not a huge fan of Gary Johnson, but I agree with enough of their stances which neither party seems to address and hope they gain some traction
>>110269It'd be nice if the GOP bucked off the Evangelicals
Lower taxes and smaller government resonates with a lot of people I know personally, but many are pretty put off by all the fundamentalist garbage that comes along with it to appeal to their voterbase
I also can't stop laughing at the hardline Christians who are actually buying up Trump's pandering. I was shooting the shit with my Evangelical neighbor and he said he admired Trump's strong faith
No. 110466
>>110465Pneumonia can be fatal at her age. From Wikipedia:
>Among the very old, the very young, and the chronically ill, pneumonia remains a leading cause of death.We also don't know if Hillary has pneumonia for a fact since her representatives claimed she was suffering from dehydration, then her doctor said it was pneumonia and her husband, Bill Clinton said it was just a case of the flu.
No. 110467
>>110466I support Trump, but that easily makes sense.
The representatives just need an explanation so say it's dehydration, the doctor diagnoses pneumonia, and Bill just calls it a flu because most people probably don't know the different. I doubt she'd be running if she was on the verge of death.
No. 110472
>>110471That was an entirely manufactured controversy in my opinion. Name one person who hasn't just completely stumbled one something they actually do know about at points.
I'm sure people have just blanked on shit they consider themselves knowledgeable about before. I'm sure you've seen musicians forget the words to songs they wrote, or forget how to play them, or just fuck up doing either. I've seen fucking Steve Vai mess up relatively simple licks compared to the sort of stuff he normally does up on stage. It happens to everyone.
I'm not even a Johnson supporter, but that entire point was clearly drama created by one of the candidates he's going up against.
No. 110476
>>110240I TOLD YOU THIS PLACE WAS FILLED WITH SJWS. You fuckers never listen, do you?
Oh, yeah, and PoC is racist you dumb, condescending fuck.
No. 110526
>>110453Trump knows shit about business. He has bankrupted or dissolved every one of them. Now he only leases his name which isn't the same. Vodka, steak, universities, casinos etc all bust. He is only where he is now because of his fathers money.
Look at what he did in Scotland, not diplomatic or humane at all. The man is a joke, the only thing going for him is that he can get a crowd going unlike Hilary.
No. 110528
>>110527Countries generally deport illegal immigrants. This isn't some radical position you stupid fuck. You think Japan would just let 10,000,000 southeast Asians up and move to Japan illegally and then give them citizenship 10 years later?
Get some fucking global perspective. Useless liberal cunts whose entire world is Canada, the US and western Europe.
No. 110544
>>110527Did you even read the post I was replying to?
Also
>yourForeigner detected. If you aren't 'Murican, get out of this thread. You can't vote.
No. 110569
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>>110527He has hundreds of successful businesses and only 4-7 business bankruptcies depending on what you count. Most of the bankrupt ones are because Atlantic City as a whole went down due to NY and PA being more lax on gambling - everyone lost in Atlantic City.
Also 8 out of 10 businesses fail according to Forbes so Trump has a great record.
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>>110527When it comes to the wall pic related - Mexico will pay for it and it's WAY WAY cheaper than you think.
Also Trump's deportation policy depends on self-deportation. When the housing market crashed construction jobs went down so much that illegals (From Mexico) exited the country in greater numbers than came. By enforcing laws concerning employment of illegals we'll help jobs dry up thus getting illegals to leave.
Also Eisenhower did a mass deportation of 5 million illegal immigrants using 1950's technology and organizational practices for relatively cheap (Look it up). We could do the same if we wanted.
Finally you're forgetting that SO much of the government spending is due to fraud, abuse, and corruption. Since Trump has no special interests or lobbies behind him he can cut through that and save us some serious cash.
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>>110526Read my post about the bankrupt business deal.
Also Trump's dad LOANED him 5 million. Trump's worth by is estimated to be around 2 billion to 3 billion as estimated by Forbes and a source I cannot recall, but was very legit (Google it). Given that accountants are EXTREMELY conservative with estimates, the estimates are based on outdated information, and Trump works in real estate which is extremely hard to pin down the estimates could very well be FAR higher.
You don't just turn a 5 million dollar loan into around 1,000 times that amount in net worth and be an idiot. His siblings got the same stuff he did and yet they're FAR less wealthy than him.
Btw his dad died in 1999 (Not 1979 as falsely reported) and gave him around 200 million to 400 million $ not 500 million $.
Also a "joke" doesn't beat the Bush Dynasty and Conservative/Establishment idols like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio while having ASTRONOMICALLY less to spend than them. A "joke" definitely doesn't get well over the majority of delegates and the highest votes cast for any Republican in the history of Republican primaries all from running a small, outgunned, and nimble campaign.
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>>110527>building a wallThe Secure Fence Act of 2006 was passed a decade ago and will essentially complete what Trump has promised. Both Bush and Obama have prevented it from happening by starving its funding. Only 700 miles of the 2000 miles are fenced and illegal crossings from those sections have fallen 90%
>mass evictions and deportationsPres. Obama has deported more immigrants than any other president of the United States. In fact net Mexican immigration is currently negative. This talk of illegal immigration is nothing more than manufactured controversy to rally votes by both parties.
>military spendingHillary has closer ties to the military-industrial complex than Donald Trump. She is a war hawk with a proven history of egging Obama on to intervene in Libya and Syria. She is also chomping at the bit to directly engage in brinkmanship against Russia, Iran, and China. Trump only cares about dropping more bombs on ISIS.
Another reason why I am voting for Trump is because he will permanently destroy the neoconservative lock on both the GOP and RNC. The Bushes, the Romneys, and Cheney is eagerly awaiting for Trump to lose to Hillary so they return and sweep out all the Trump supporters and restore their status quo. Only by dismantling the neocon political machine can the GOP evolve into an actual centrist party looking to benefit lower and middle income Americans. Hillary represents a return to the 1% controlled status quo.
Keep in mind Trump has been a Democrat for decades until he changed his affiliation in 2014. Yes he is indeed an ego-driven opportunist who saw a weak GOP field and decided to swoop in and steal the primary. That's why many Republicans are afraid of him, because he is not a true conservative by any means. He has a past history of being antiracist and a gay rights advocate. I won't put it past him to pander to the GOP base then switch his policies again once he's in the white house.
>But-but he said outrageous things!That's the genius of Donald Trump. Compared to all the GOP favorites like Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio, he had few resources early in the primary. So he took a page from the reality tv playbook and played the villan. Basically the media was forced to talk about Trump's 'controversies' 24-7 and stole all attention from his primary opponents. Every time his polls dropped, he manufactured another controversy just to get the cameras back on him. Keep in mind Jeb had $150 million in the war chest and Trump had less than 10% in liquid cash back in 2015. "Drumpt" has shown his ability to think outside the box and rewrite the rules when necessary.
No. 110576
>>110571Border Patrolfag here.
God, I've been waiting for this.
No. 110581
Yikes, Anon! You've caught me in a super bad mood, so I'm going to try to discuss this mess of words you decided to subject this thread to. I'm pretty tired, so it's going to be incoherent, but I also don't super care.
>List of successful businessesLike, this is pretty irrelevant to any sort of discourse regarding the government, because the government does not function like a business in America does. It's goals and mechanisms are completely different. Knowledge in balancing a government budget isn't going to transfer over to being an entrepreneur, or vice versa.
If you all want to get into the Discourse (tm) of whether or not his businesses failed or succeeded, you can. But again, that really has no bearing on whether or not he will be a good president, or should it really be weighed when considering whether or not to vote for him, imo!!
>Mexico is going to pay for it!I literally have no clue what you're smoking to be as deluded as you are to believe that but:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/who-will-pay-for-mexico-wall-trump-nieto-227607They're not gonna fucking pay for it, anon! Get back with reality, please!
>WAY WAY cheaper than you think.If you think I'm stupid enough to take the image macro quoting a flat rate of 8 billion dollars, then, uh…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/11/trumps-dubious-claim-that-his-border-wall-would-cost-8-billion/So, not only will it most likely cost much more than 8 billion dollars, Mexico isn't going to pay for it. Trump has completely softened his stance on getting Mexico to pay for the wall. It ain't gonna happen, anon.
>Also Eisenhower did a mass deportation of 5 million illegal immigrants using 1950's technology and organizational practices for relatively cheap (Look it up). We could do the same if we wanted.Where the fuck are you getting 5 million from? Even DJT didn't quote that number??
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/11/donald-trump/trump-eisenhower-deported-15-million-immigrants/
>Trump said President Eisenhower "moved 1.5 million illegal immigrants out of this country." Trump is referring to a 1954 campaign known as "Operation Wetback." While the idea that the operation resulted in more than 1 million deportations is not pulled out of thin air, historians widely cite that number as far too high for a variety of reasons – including the fact that hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants would have had to self-deport.
>Also, it wasn’t just a deportation program. The campaign accompanied more legal immigration opportunities.Please use google, anon!
>Finally you're forgetting that SO much of the government spending is due to fraud, abuse, and corruption. Since Trump has no special interests or lobbies behind him he can cut through that and save us some serious cash.I'd really, really be interested in hearing you explain this point further.
How do lobbyists cost us money directly? How will this prevent lobbyists from talking to literally anyone other than Trump? Is there any actually legislation Trump is going to present to prevent special interest groups from meddling in Washington? Why do you think that Trump wouldn't interact with lobbyists or special interest groups later on? What makes you so sure he isn't now? lmao
> Trump's worth by is estimated to be around 2 billion to 3 billion as estimated by Forbes and a source I cannot recall, but was very legit (Google it). Given that accountants are EXTREMELY conservative with estimates, the estimates are based on outdated information, and Trump works in real estate which is extremely hard to pin down the estimates could very well be FAR higher.They're outdated… because Trump reveals little to no financial information of value for them to work with lol?? This is super baseless speculation on your part, imo.
>You don't just turn a 5 million dollar loan into around 1,000 times that amount in net worth and be an idiot.I think Ben Carson can chop up connected babies better than I ever could, that doesn't mean I think he's smart when it comes to politics. The same applies to Trump - he is wealthy for a litany of reasons, none of which have any bearing as to whether or not I should vote for him to be president.
>Also a "joke" doesn't beat the Bush Dynasty and Conservative/Establishment idols like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio while having ASTRONOMICALLY less to spend than them.And yet, here we are. Trump's policies (i.e.: torture proposals, disestablishing the EPA, defunding PP until they stop performing abortions etc.) are all jokes. They are ineffective, useless, and do more harm than good. It's a fucking joke that he was nominated, and points towards the pathetic nature of the current state of politics.
>A "joke" definitely doesn't get well over the majority of delegates and the highest votes cast for any Republican in the history of Republican primaries all from running a small, outgunned, and nimble campaign.Not to mention that jokes were basically the basis of his primary campaign, but whatever!
>>110573Wasn't he sued by the Department of Justice for discriminating against non-white tenants lmao??? Like, there are very concrete examples of his businesses functioning in a racist way. I'd be real interested in seeing the source to that story your shitty image macro tells, because I'm pretty sure it's not really true, like most of the things you've said in this thread.
>The Secure Fence Act of 2006 was passed a decade ago and will essentially complete what Trump has promised.Trump suggested something that will cost a lot more than that specific piece of legislation would have cost to completely fulfill. (See above)
>Both Bush and Obama have prevented it from happening by starving its funding.uh it's congress's fault for not allocating enough funding for the legislation, actually. But you can convince yourself otherwise, I guess. also provide sources for your stats please
>deportationsHuge difference in 2.5 million over 8 years, and 11 million over a much shorter period of time, with more rigor in finding said individuals. Pretending there's not a difference is sad. Ignoring the economic impact of such a move is also a bit silly.
>She is a war hawk with a proven history of egging Obama on to intervene in Libya and Syria. She is also chomping at the bit to directly engage in brinkmanship against Russia, Iran, and China. Trump only cares about dropping more bombs on ISIS.This is wild. Hillary is hawkish, not to the degree you're trying to suggest, but I'm glad you're soothed by Trump taking the high road of 'just dropping bombs on ISIS' lmao.
>Only by dismantling the neocon political machine can the GOP evolve into an actual centrist party looking to benefit lower and middle income Americans. Hillary represents a return to the 1% controlled status quo.Dude, Rio ended a few weeks ago, but I think you should aim for Tokyo in 2020. The mental gymnastics you're performing totally would've brought home gold.
But seriously, this analysis is pretty baseless, and you give no reason for me to believe anything you're saying with no actual evidence to support it.
>He has a past history of being antiracist and a gay rights advocate.LMAO AGAIN: HE WAS SUED BY THE DOJ BECAUSE HIS BUSINESS PRACTICES WERE RACIST
in what fucking world does he have a history of supporting gay rights anon
://ballotpedia.org/2016_presidential_candidates_on_LGBTQ_rights
>Trump himself does not support nationwide marriage equality and has said he would "strongly consider" appointing judges to overturn it.
>On the issue of gay marriage, Donald Trump said during a November 2013 interview on MSNBC, "I think I’m evolving, and I think I’m a very fair person, but I have been for traditional marriage. I am for traditional marriage, I am for a marriage between a man and a woman.”
>In a March 2011 interview with The Des Moines Register, Trump said gay couples should not be allowed to marry or receive the same benefits as married heterosexual couples.Like, you're lying through your teeth? It's pathetic and sad?
>So he took a page from the reality tv playbook and played the villan.Yeah, and I don't want to vote for him. I don't really care that the GOP suffered because of his theatrics, but his policies suck, his ability to speak like a coherent human being sucks, there's plenty of analysis showing his financial plans suck and will result in another recession (Moody's), and I have no reason to vote for him.
Anyway, hope y'all learn some critical reading skills because this thread is real fucking sad! Bye!
No. 110584
>>110582They offered a rational response in my opinion. The American government fucked Yugoslavia, South America etc with Neoliberalism and now you have a man who is wishing to spend even more on the military and border controls which will almost certainly cause a recesssion.
You fuckwits need to understand SOCIALISM is not a bad word.
No. 110585
>>110584I mean, I think both are arguing from a very biased point of view, one's admittedly making shit up, but the second one is kind of ignoring that high end business involves a lot of politics, and completely passing over some of the other points, as well as far as I can tell making things up themselves.
But both candidates are absolutely interested in increasing military spending, and Hillary is pretty closely linked to the military-industrial complex. She has much more motivation to push for that than Trump does.
No. 110718
>>110715The last time an independent actually got any steam was when Ross Perot ran back in the 90's. Tbh, Trump probably could've ran as an independent but went for the Republican seat instead. There are quite a few third party candidates but you would never know because of the lack of coverage. Also, some third parties aren't even listed on all the state ballots. But beyond that
>>110717 is right, they all pretty much suck.
No. 110771
>>110767Trump is literally a child. He believed the conspiracy theory that Obama was born in a different country, he acts on anger, he can't tell the difference between a Mexican and a Puerto Rican, he laughs at disabled people, he thinks it's gross that Hillary takes bathroom breaks (because he shits through his mouth, not in a toilet), he shits on muslims and hispanics, he couldn't even debate with the other republican nominees like an adult ("he started it", "my dick is soooo big", "ur wife is ugly"), he literally thinks he can make a country pay for a wall, he doesn't believe in climate change, and he's stated multiple times that he'd bang his daughter if she weren't his daughter (there's a difference between saying "my daughter looks beaitiful" and "oh she has a nice body and if she wasn't my daughter -creepy smile-"). And he's been in politics for like a year. And he's racist af (I'm sorry you're all born in the wrong decade, but here in 2016 being racist is so outdated). His short temper is dangerous and he is not fit for president.
No. 111196
>>111194Trump did the same. He talked in circles and yelled.
>>111174The moderator needed to be more assertive.
No. 111215
>>111211>experienced businessmanyou lost me right there. all you have to do is search 'trump business record'. plus, all his start-up capital was basically a birthday present from his dad. if anything, his financial 'success' is based on nepotism and the same kind of deception and corruption that he claims to be above because he's not a politician.
also he's prettyyy much in love with putin. the only reason he doesn't want 'pointless aggression' and 'cold war politics' towards Russia is because he views the state of Russian politics as something to aspire to.
>if he wasn't different then there wouldn't be so much fear and outrage from the establishment'or maybe there's fear and outrage because 'the establishment' (i.e. people who have built whole careers out of understanding politics) are frankly horrified by the 'solutions' he's proposed so far and what their repercussions would be.
like hot damn I'm not a fan of Hillary, either, the Clintons are about as dirty as they come, but your reasons for supporting this guy seem real half-baked. Limberbutt 2016, I say.
No. 111233
>>111215>half-bakedSorry professor, I'm not gonna write a whole thesis about it if that's what you want, not supporting a government that funds extremists around the world is actually already enough reason for me to vote for Trump.
Also,
>start-up capital from daddyHow is that a bad thing? How can you start a business without capital?
>trump business recordFind me one billionaire who didn't shut down an unprofitable venture before they lost too much money from it. Every business contains risk, making billions out of a million is already a success if you ask me but of course anyone would have lost a few millions along the way to earn that much, that's just what happens in business, that's what the word PROFIT means.
No. 111240
Trump.
>Yeah, he's cavalier with money, but he's managed to fund his campaign. He's more successful than I am, money wise.
>I like his posturing when it comes to foreign policy. He'll work with other countries, but he won't be their bitch.
>He'll be tough on illegal immigrants.
>He'll be tough on refugees, or will disallow them completely.
>He's a meme candidate.
>I don't think Hillary is in it for anything other than power…and glory.
>If I had to guess, I'd say Trump is rather racist, but he's not calling for black genocide, like a lot of poltards do. He probably does sympathize with white supremacist organizations, and people therein.
>At one point he brought up auditing the Federal Reserve. If he really does that, that takes some fucking balls. If he tames it, he'll be historically significant.
But, you gotta ask whether he'll do anything he says he'll do. I'd like to think he'll keep his campaign promises, but I think we all know what happens with campaign promises. Well, he's still better than Hillary.
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>>111241>>111194It was 2v1 though.
No. 111254
>>111250Why wouldn't she have a notebook? They're allowed to take notes. Teleprompter is a reach.
>>111240Some of the things he said definitely won't happen because they're unfeasible, but anybody could have worked that out ages ago. Honestly I don't think he'll be anywhere near the antichrist that people would expect him to be in office because the more extreme shit he says will just never happen. I think it's likely he'll be more of a face than a mind and that actual politicans will end up doing the work if he becomes president. He doesn't really prep for much, so I think he'll rely on the people around him to fil in the gaps and that'll make him more moderate than he seems right now. He'll obviously still be pretty conservative but he won't be /pol tier.
No. 111262
>>111256Its because the questions were stupid as well.
Man I just think about Obama's birthplace whenever I need to pay my taxes, or countries are getting blown up… Obama's birthplace man… So deep… affects my life so much…
I thought this was supposed to be about policies.
No. 111263
>>111262I was supposed to respond to:
>>111194Sorry.
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>>111260You said she was cheating, so that's your claim to try and prove.
>You find me one shot of Trump's "screen" going white, and I'll concede that she wasn't cheating.The whiteness came from a painted strip on the podium. Trump's podium didn't have the white strip that Hilary's did. His was painted black.
No. 111266
>>111262Hers turned black after the video I linked. What are you even saying? Watch the video again. Your reasoning is laughably pathetic.
https://twitter.com/momandapplepie/status/781057051971624960What kind of screen do you use thats a black screen but you can totally see whats in it? If his was actually black, please go find me some where the sides of it light up.
Are you saying they're treated differently and can pick what happens at their podium? That isn't allowed at the debate, Hillary was not allowed a stand that she requested. So, go find me that white screen, since Hillary has it. And don't use that pathetic excuse again, just find a screenshot.
Trump's a raging idiot as well, but man, your reasoning is just awful.
No. 111268
>>111266>Are you saying they're treated differently and can pick what happens at their podium?No, I actually never said this. I don't know where you got this from.
I pointed out that the lighting affected how the podiums look and, because Hilary's was white and Trump's was black, the lighting affected them differently. I never said they chose their podiums, only said that's what I think caused the whiteness in the video you linked.
>So, go find me that white screen, since Hillary has it. I wasn't the one that claimed she had a screen.
>just find a screenshotI provided a screenshot to show you what I meant.
No. 111270
>>111268>Hers turned black after the video I linked. What are you even saying? Watch the video again. Your reasoning is laughably pathetic. Pls answer, honey. Why did hers turn black in the tweet? Why is Trump's 100% always black?
I'm asking you for proof on YOUR claim.
>If his was actually black, please go find me some where the sides of it light up. Even if it is black, the sides should light up. Don't see that with your screenshot.
Again, your justification is pathetic.
No. 111272
>>111268>I wasn't the one that claimed she had a screen.You claimed both of them had one to take notes. But Trump's one is black??
Man I wish I could read through a black screen, SO efficient! So even if it was black… means its still rigged.
If Clinton's one turned black at the end of the debate, perhaps Trump's one was never on? Makes ya think…
No. 111273
>>111270You haven't even proven your first claim yet, why should I spend my time finding shit I never even claimed (the black strip on Trump's podium lighting up) or a personal interpretation (me thinking the change is due to lighting whereas you think it's a screen)?
I already provided a clear picture of both their podiums, which I used to back up all the claims I made and show you why I had interpreted your video the way I did.
You're obviously not going to change your mind that Hilary had a teleprompter and I'm not going to say she had one unless there's evidence of it, so we're just arguing in circles.
>>111272I didn't. I agreed Hilary had notes, I never said screen. My exact words were
>Why wouldn't she have a notebook? They're allowed to take notes. Teleprompter is a reach.I haven't claimed that either of them had a screen, I'm not sure where you're getting that from?
No. 111274
>>111273 You can clearly see the Lighting in her podium back to black without the actual lighting on the stage changing though, That lighting sure is intense and almost magical how it can pick and choose which spots to light out.
>so we're just arguing in circles.Yeah, lets drop it.
No. 111328
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>>110584>You fuckwits need to understand SOCIALISM is not a bad word.It ought to be.
No. 111329
>>110240You do realize that Hillary has been war hawkish with Putin, and Trump has been all buddy buddy with him? Just look at the debate blaming the DNC hacks on Russia, and talking about the importance of cyber warfare.
>>110527The country is already bankrupt, it has been for some time. Stop blaming these things on Trump.
>>110769>Also she won't separate families by deporting people left and rightThe families wont be separated. We'll deport them all together.
>>110584> which will almost certainly cause a recesssion.You do realize the economy is cyclic, and we're about due for another a recession absent the federal reserve continuing to devalue the dollar even more than they already have regardless of who takes power?
No. 111334
>>111332Are you okay with Hillary who defended a pedo during her time as a lawyer, who raped a 12 year old girl and basically [Hillary] said the girl fantasised about older men, as in she was asking for it?
The same Hillary who called Bill's rape victims "trash"?
Its okay if you're a sensitive little snowflake, but you're funny to think leaders of a country are sensitive tumblrinas.
By the way, he did absolutely fine with Nieto, pres of Mexico. So yeah, unfortunately they're not the tumblrinas you want them to be.
No. 111339
>>111338Seriously, it's how it works. Terrifying.
"…the President has a card, commonly called the "biscuit," with the nuclear launch codes on it. He also has a briefcase, nicknamed the "football," carried by a military aide, with the equipment and the information needed to launch a nuclear strike.
"You have to be ready anytime for any moment," said Pete Metzger, who for three years was one of the five alternating officers who carried the nuclear launch suitcase during Ronald Reagan's presidency. "Mind you, it has to happen quickly, because the time on a missile is very fast," saying it could take as little as five to six minutes for a nuclear warhead to hit Washington, D.C. or New York City.
The aide with the satchel is required to be close to the president at all times – whether at the White House, in a motorcade, aboard Air Force One or on a trip overseas. The aide rides in the same elevator, stays on the same hotel floor, and is protected by the same Secret Service agents. There is also a football for the vice president in case the president is incapacitated.
The Presidential Emergency Satchel, as it is formally called, contains four things, according to former White House Military Office Director Bill Gulley's book "Breaking Cover."
There is a black book listing a menu of strike options; a list of secure bunkers where the president can be sheltered; instructions for using the Emergency Broadcast System; and
a 3-by-5-inch card with authentication codes for the president to confirm his identity."It contains the equipment and the decision-making papers that the president would need to make a very quick decision" and to relay instructions to the National Military Command Center to launch a strike."
"The president has supreme authority to decide whether to use America's nuclear weapons. Period. Full stop."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/06/politics/nuclear-football-president-button/ No. 111349
>>111334>le tumblrinas XD>le little snowflake XDDDThis is why i dont want trump the win, because of the alt right, tumblr-obsessed braindead retards who like him
these people getting their way will be the death of the country more than trump will ever do by his own
No. 111361
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>>110237my whole facebook is just people sharing buzzfeed tier articles bashing trump and praising clinton, all just to appear moral and politically invested
I don't even live in the US
No. 111372
>>111338Hillz voted FOR Iraq war. Trump wasn't in any power position in politics at the time so who cares what he thought(he wasn't for it). Has he threatened Russia? Hillary also recently said we would use military power for CYBER attacks, directing it at Russia. Like, really? Get a better server, Hillz. The same Hillary who ordered death of Gaddafi? The one who said on video: “I want the Iranians to know that if I’m president, we will attack Iran. In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."?
But omg raycest wurds hurt mah fee feezzz!!!
Nitpicking. Trump is far from perfect, but he has a cleaner slate than Hillary. Maybe your parents would know about the time with Bill.
>>111349Here we go, the real reason: your own internet ego. You don't give a damn about the trillions of debt. I can safely assume you live with mummy and daddy, heh.
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>>111372No, it's because of fucking idiots like you
You're obsessed with race, you're obsessed with tumblr and far left people. You talk like a fucking mentally ill retard who thinks anyone who disagrees with you is just being "over sensitive"
Plus as always, your kind always resorts to personal attacks because you're fucked in the head
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>>111377Anyway, I dont want a president to win who has people supporting him like that. That will effect the political and social state of America the most and it has nothing to do with my "internet ego". Your kind is insufferable and has the same condescending nature and haughtiness as any far left nut but the same viciousness and aggressive attitude any far right winger has as well.
In short you are an abomination and just awful. I never want to see you gain power in my country.
No. 111382
>>111377…My post literally has nothing about race though, what are you talking about?
Did you just nitpick my post again like I said? I said other things you know.
>same condescending nature and haughtiness as any far left nut but the same viciousness and aggressive attitude any far right winger has as well.Maybe you should take some iron tablets.
>In short you are an abomination and just awful. >You talk like a fucking mentally ill retard>Your kind is insufferable>fucking idiots like you>your kind always resorts to personal attacks because you're fucked in the head??????????????????????????????
Nice projection! See what I mean about the sensitivity?
No. 111384
I'll probably vote for Hillary Clinton. I do think that people are being way more critical of her than if some man had her exact same history and credentials. I do think she should really just come clean about the email server, though. I'm more of a moderate/independent so I don't care about the progressive stuff Bernie Sanders supporters are a bloo blooing to Clinton about. I like that she seems cold and unsmiling, and doesn't do the emotional plea quite right. As an aloof lady, it speaks to me a bit. Clinton did some shitty/shady shit in her career, but I've accepted that as some of the baggage that comes along with being a career politician. You will never get a candidate with a perfect record.
If anything it's mostly because Trump just seems super unqualified. Like he's probably never even been the head of a PTA board. And also that he conflates a lot of things and barely speaks to factual evidence. It just doesn't look that good for him. I could support an under/unqualified candidate if they had a history of some kind of community service, or seemed particularly earnest, but Trump just seems corporate business, and as the reporting goes, not even super good at business either.
>>111340The closest thing I can think of is that he called Mexican (immigrants) rapists and murders I think and also called that Colombian (?) Miss Universe winner "Miss Housekeeping".
>>111382Not that anon, but eventually you see some of the same kinds of argumentation tactics between far-leftists and far-rightists (on the internet). At least, I have. People can be more alike than they'd like to admit sometimes.
No. 111396
>>111384Absolutely. But we are voting for a person, not their crowd. Taking the crowd into account is just voting for your own ego.
I suggest watching Clinton Cash on youtube. The best documentary shitting on Trump you'll get is Trumped(?).
No. 111401
>>111382You said this:
>But omg raycest wurds hurt mah fee feezzz!!!You sound CRAZY.
You keep mentioning "PC" and that I live with "mummy and daddy" what the fuck?
Also we don't vote for a person, we vote for their policies. Dumbass.
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>>111383I don't get why because I disagree with you - you assume that I'm a oversensitive liberal who obsesses over politically correct things and browse tumblr
this is exactly what I'm talking about, this weird, bizarre, aggressive nature a lot of you trump supporters have.
It's like you have obsessive circle-jerks in your head about who's liberal or not and expect everyone to fit a certain archetype. Hell you do it on the internet so i'd expect your mental state not to look so good either.
Anyway you just prove my point. Your way of talking and thinking is abnormal and the fact that Trump attracts so many off people like you is disturbing most of all
No. 111403
>>111401That was a small portion of my post. Again, nitpicking. In case you couldn't tell it was said to mock you. Whoopsies, so sorry.
You don't deny it soo… The way people live affects what they feel about certain things. I'm not looking down on it, it just gives an idea as to why you think certain things are important.
Yes, a person and their policies. A lot of people itt are saying Trump is too hot headed to be near a nuclear button, so the person. That is completely irrelevant to policies. But I don't see you throwing a fit at them. So….???????
>>111402But you've showed me that you are.
>this is exactly what I'm talking about, this weird, bizarre, aggressive nature a lot of you trump supporters have.>>this is exactly what I'm talking about, this weird, bizarre, aggressive nature>bizarre, aggressive nature???????
Projection again??
>Your way of talking and thinking is abnormal and the fact that Trump attracts so many off people like you is disturbing most of all>Trump attracts so many off people like you is disturbing most of allProjection again???
No. 111405
>>111403More stupid repetitive words like "projection"
Why does it always have to be projection with you people? Are you projecting because you're calling me oversensitive? Fucking dumb words, man.
I don't really care for Trump and Hillary as people , i only look at their policies and their image because that is what matters when you elect a leader of a country. A leader represents a country worldwide and this effects important things like foreign policy. First, I want us to crush all the islamists and withdraw from the Middle East as soon as possible. Trump will most likely do that, but then he says a lot of iffy shit and a lot of his supporters are even more iffy and shady than he is. And besides, the president won't have as much power as we're led to believe so fuck it.
No. 111407
>>111402Lmfao I said 'PoC' once and someone on here got
triggered and called me a sjw.
I know lolcow is 90% white supremacy, but I'm pretty sure almost all of you support LGBT+ people. If you vote for Trump then have fun explaining to your gay friends why you voted for someone who supports annulling marriage equality.
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>>111407>I know lolcow is 90% white supremacy>LGBT+>gay friendsjust… go away please
No. 111417
>>111405>>111407I think you're a troll but here's my response: Trump was for gay rights before being for gay rights was cool:
http://www.advocate.com/election/2015/9/28/read-donald-trumps-advocate-interview-where-he-defends-gays-mexicansUnlike a certain someone who flip flops and is only for it now that its become hip and trendy to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3huRVrckY8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZkK2_6H9MM>>111411And Hillary wants to import thousands of them to America.
No. 111418
>>111417We aren't the same person and I am not a troll also.
I am aware of what Hillary wants to do and what Trump wants to do. Note the want. I was on Trump's side until recently.
No. 111489
>>111426Views are nothing without action, you've said it yourself. If people like you are smart enough to see that its bad, why can't other people?
I have to wonder if she's pro life to help her husband's raping not have a 18+ year life, tbh.
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Trump revealed as a misogynist (gee, what a big surprise!) and Hillary revealed as a big Wall Street shill.
I wonder how many October surprises await us this fall? It's like a gutter mud-wrestling match with sewage on everyone.
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lamo, "acid-wash" is a infosec term for purging data so it becomes 100% unrecoverable.
Is someone at NBC trying to throw Hillary under the bus?
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>>110237pic related to all the trump supporters out there
not even shitposting
No. 112257
>>112237The thing is with Trump supporters is that they WANT uncertain and unabashed change. They hate how everything is going right now and even if Clinton turns the wheel in a slightly more conservative angle. So much so, that they are willing to look over other aspects of the Trump campaign that non-Trump supporters find absolutely unacceptable.
At this point, it's unwise to just assume that these people are merely ignorant, or blind to the truth. They support Trump because that's exactly what they want.
Also lol at all the Dems who want Trump to step out of the race. If that happened then Pence would get the presidency, probs no contest.
No. 112262
>>112259
>because Hillary's hubby is an awful human being>because I don't like her husband I will not vote for her>her husband is the deciding factorok.jpg
robot go
No. 112268
>>112237>conservative>hawkishOur terminology is so screwed up that words don't actually have real meanings anymore. Orwell once wrote "the word fascist now has no meaning, except 'that which is not desirable'", I think that's relevant here.
Consider what you quoted from. You're/they're saying that bombing other countries until everyone is permitted to vote is a conservative (with a small "c") policy point.
It's not. It's liberal internationalism. In this context it's neo-liberalism, or rather "neo conservatism", but even then the people who systematized the ideology were in no small number ex-Trotskyists.
It simply isn't a conservative position to want to bomb and kill whenever there's a threat to universal suffrage. The very idea of universal suffrage is anathema to any principled conservative position to begin with. Even if you're talking about Burkean conservatism it's anathema to it, let alone more perennial definitions.
>>112190PC doesn't just refer to being cordial and civil, and not risking potential offense (although that's a big part of why it's a problem - consider that virtually any and all discussions these days descend into arduously boring, byzantine discussions about whether or not someone or something is "racist"), it more accurately describes a way of thinking about the world. It pre-supposes things like blank slate models of human behavioral development (except in the case of homosexuality, which is a singular aberration along with transgenderism), it believes staunchly in egalitarianism not just as an article of faith, but as a default position (liberals genuinely cannot comprehend, and I don't mean this in a pejorative way, the notion of believing in innate hierarchies or differences). It believes in nominalism - that is for most purposes as applied here - if you can find some individual example of an discrepancy from a generally alleged trend, then that trend doesn't exist ("heh, let me tell you about my 4.0 GPA black friend. Bigot.") and so on.
It's a stupid way of describing things, but PC is really better described as egalitarianism/liberalism.
I also disagree with the use of the term "SJW", despite being far-right in most of my policy positions. I think it's a bullshit term, and the reason you see it used so much is because a lot of white leftists want to divorce what they see as an uncomfortably loud, aggressive group of leftists from embarrassing the rest of them (in other words it is a face-saving term).
From my point of view though, using the term de-politicizes their pathology and turns them into "just another group of kooks". They should be called
what they actually are, which is leftists/liberals.
>>112233I'm not going to defend those comments, but I think it's really important to distill policy positions from rhetoric. Trump's rhetoric is incendiary and often stupid, but his actual policy positions: No offer of amnesty, tightening the entire immigration system from student visas to naturalization rules, introducing like-for-like tariffs on Chinese goods in key areas (at the very least there needs to be a shift back towards US-made steel, if the US is going to re-industrialize) and so on are things I actually support and agree with.
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>>112302
>Trump starts the 3rd World War if someone insults his ridiculous hairdo. Clinton, not so much.Clinton is an absolute war hawk. She was a major part in ruining Syria and Libya causing the whole "refugee" crisis. She has been quoted wanting to start a war with Russia over over the hacked DNC emails and wants drone strikes on people that have leaked emails.
>Trump is butt-buddies with PutinYeah Putin and Trump are just best friends when Trump doesn't even have a single property in a country as large as Russia. I tell you he has been a super secret KGB/FSB agent his entire life.
No. 112318
>>112258Unfortunately for you and many people whose sole interaction is online (or unfortunately for regular people??), hyper PC lunacy is really still (more or less) a minority of people in the US. Otherwise Bernie Sanders would have won the Dem ticket/Trump would have never even made it. You do have to remember that a lot of the over the top sjw liberals are more often than not much younger than the voting age/will actually never make it to voting booths/much louder than they actually are.
Also unfortunately for you, as far as I can tell you're still a minority in the West outside of the US and if Trump gets elected it might actually spark non-US nations to double down on non-Trump rhetoric. Though it would depend on the percentage spread of ideologies outside of the US (i.e., Canada just elected a Liberal Party PM so they probably will have a kneejerk opposite reaction to a Trump presidency).
>>112268>I also disagree with the use of the term "SJW", despite being far-right in most of my policy positions. I think it's a bullshit term, and the reason you see it used so much is because a lot of white leftists want to divorce what they see as an uncomfortably loud, aggressive group of leftists from embarrassing the rest of them (in other words it is a face-saving term). I see where you're coming from, but more often than not (it seems) it is used by (far) rightists as a pejorative to describe far leftists. I think the issue lies in that prior to the presidential elections, SJW was used to describe the idea that social issues were first and foremost. Since the elections, and the particular divisiveness of these elections, SJW as a term became politicized, with liberals being the stronger majority of people who spout SJW themes (I don't know about you, but I have definitely come across self proclaimed Republicans who spouted SJW themes).
>because a lot of white leftists want to divorce what they see as an uncomfortably loud, aggressive group of leftistsFor what it's worth, me and many people around me (not white) view SJW-ism as a kind of off the deep end liberalism perpetuated by white guilt and white people who think they know but are just trying way too hard. (As you can see perception differs based on experience and exposure. Obviously I see all sorts of minority voices being crazy with this shit online and in tumblr screencaps but for my personal irl reality it's just white people who say this shit).
>I'm not going to defend those comments, but I think it's really important to distill policy positions from rhetoric.I agree. It is just unfortunate for your case that Trump tends to rely on rhetoric over policy.
No. 112332
>>112302Trump is not starting it, it will 100% be a war with Russia if Clinton gets elected. I will say however there is a chance of war breaking out, but that will be funded by the elite to try and take down Trump as he opposes their corruption. The reason why 100% war will break out if Clinton gets elected is because Russia is in a similar position as Trump: rejecting the elite and even banning one of the toppest ones. But that is still not Trump warmongering.
>>112328Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. No one wants to go to war with Russia, especially considering Hillary helped power them up with 30% of American uranium(material to make nuclear weapons)
I know you're on lolcow and real petty, but don't treat this the same as your internet drama, lmao.
No. 112346
>>112332lmao this projection, I don't even know who the fuck any of those lolcows are. I don't even post on boards outside of /b/ and /g/.
>Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. Why doesn't putin keep hillary close then? How did you even come up with this? Do you have
any evidence this is what trump's doing, or is this just a pet theory of yours?
No. 112353
>>112346Why are you telling me your lolcow history for? Getting defensive?
Because Hillary is a Shill of the person Russia banned.
Are you serious? There are claims all over that Trump is getting buddy buddy with Russia, which has been spun badly but its not bad at all.
>>112347$500.
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>>112353>I know you're on lolcow and real petty, but don't treat this the same as your internet drama, lmao.>but I don't even follow internet drama>Why are you telling me your lolcow history for? Getting defensive?Do you have short term memory loss, or is this just damage control?
No. 112786
>>112262Why is everyone so retarded about this issue. Even those that oppose them don't make this obvious statement, so allow me to put things simply for you:
"She is guilty by association."
Were she a truly the strong woman she claims she is she would have dumped his ass years ago and let him rot in prison. But no, instead she threatens his victims, enables him, and continues to stand closely by Bill even when he was confirmed guilty on multiple accounts. Why you may ask? Well because she's corrupt politician and shameless opportunist who didn't want to cut her only tie to any sort of relevancy in the political world. Mind you that's putting things lightly, as she her trues reasons for staying with Bill are probably much worse than one can imagine.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd4wXAUFAowThe media currently claims Hillary has 95% chance to win the the presidency. Do you think 95% is a good prediction?
No. 113300
>>113297>Feel when she declares a no-fly zone over Syria and the SHTFDo you American libs seriously believe this woman is anything more than a typical neo-liberal globalist warmonger?
Remember when you thought Obama was going to be some sort of savior because he was black?
LOL.
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>>113300You are delusional.
Everyone knows Trump is a buffoon that is unfit for the presidency and Hillary is a saint that never lies or engage in hypocrisy.
>http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/wikileaks-clinton-foundation-paid-women-less-men/ No. 113317
>>113300Yeah, her saying that scared the shit out of me. She's begging for a war with Russia at this point. She has her tin-foil hat on tight thinking Russia is "hacking everything".
I also nervously chuckled when she told everyone America's response time for a nuclear launch.
Crazy bitch.
>>112347500$ as well
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Honestly it's gotta be Hillary. I was for her even during the primaries because I was convinced Bernie couldn't win. Looking back, I kind of regret that because if someone like Bernie ever could've won, it'd be during this election. But oh well, that's in the past now. I didn't even vote.
The thing is, Hillary supporters at this point need to accept that she's kinda corrupt, a classic politician & very calculating. I used to think I wanted someone like this in the office because they'd have the connections necessary to get things done since the system is corrupt. Now that I've grown up a bit, I realize why this is ridiculous thinking.
I was tempted, briefly, to consider Trump as a protest vote. But that accomplishes nothing. It's quite clear he would just delegate all of his tasks to the people he appoints, like Mike Pence, and that scares the shit out of me. And, just like how Hillary supporters just accept her faults, any Trump supporter at this point in time does not give a shit that he is a liar, womanizer, and a crazy person. This excites them. It's "different," and this is why his scandals aren't having as much of an effect as they would with another politician.
So we are "stuck" with Hillary. But that's not so bad. I'm excited for a first female president, and I'm unsure that she will actually last two terms. I have a feeling she might not. And since I've accepted her faults, Wikileaks hasn't shown me anything new. They keep claiming a bombshell but I mean, come on. Back room dealings? Corruption? You'd have to be naive to not have suspected this already. And not just with her, but with any politician.
PS this is my first time posting here :) This community was like…fucking made for me lol. I wish I knew you all IRL, I'm sure we'd be great friends.
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>>113455Thanks for responding to my long, thought out post with a retarded one liner about how 'stupid" I am for wanting the lesser of two evils. Have fun when your candidate loses.
No. 113489
>>113465Second time around it's still shitty bait anon.
Did you really expect a bunch of people to chime in and start saying 'yeah! Abortion is evil let those babies get abused in state and foster care instead. We love kids so they should suffer'
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>>113483Glad to hear I'm not the only one who feels this way. And it seems like a lot of people voted for Bernie in the primaries, whether or not they wanted him to win, in order to push Clinton further to the left. And it worked!
>>113489Just some lunatic, right-wing hater. Probably the same person who was baiting me earlier. Sorry, but just because something has the
potential for life does not make it a person. Any college graduate can tell you that they learn this argument in an entry level philosophy class.
No. 113562
What makes Hillary the better of two evils?
Forget about the rhetoric of both candidates for a minute. Hillary was a defense lawyer after all (no scummier profession, take it from someone with a law degree). Instead look at the balance sheet of their policies.
Hillary is on record saying she's more likely to have an aggressive foreign policy towards Russia specifically. I think for most rational people this is a mark down.
She's also on record as saying Syria needs a no-fly zone, which is as good as declaring war on the Syrian government (denying it access to its own airspace), so she seems to be… entirely ok with repeating the exact same mistakes she made as Sec. of State and Obama made in Libya, and Bush made in Iraq in toppling authoritarian but secular regimes and replacing them with durka ones (ah, but "moderate" durka ones). I also think for most rational people this is also a mark down.
She's in favor of giving some 11,000,000-20,000,000 people who entered the country illegally and continue to stay illegally a path to citizenship, which a) is an admission of defeat on America's abilities to control any sort of border inflow whatsoever, b) following Reagan's amnesty, sets another terrible precedent that basically says "come here illegally and just stay a while, you will, eventually, get citizenship" and c) basically guarantees the Dems a near permanent majority of voters, turning America into a de-facto one party state (ironically similar to Russia and Turkey).
Points in her favor policy wise:
- She supports universal healthcare.
- She supports some women's issues policies, primarily contraception access and so on, which I actually agree with the DNC on - and which I feel hamstrings the GOP's ability to engage with younger white female voters.
No. 113582
>>110319>Lower taxes and smaller government resonates with a lot of people I know personally, but many are pretty put off by all the fundamentalist garbage that comes along with it to appeal to their voterbaseExactly, especially considering the fact that the evangelicals are anything but "small government" with how much they would love for the govt control multiple unnecessary aspects of people's lives. (Think, opposition to Gay people having equal legal treatment and not understand the separation of church and state in general)
>>111377Do you… do you not see the irony of saying people are fucked in the head as an argument after whining about too many personal attacks?
>>112268>It's a stupid way of describing things, but PC is really better described as egalitarianism/liberalism. What about all the times what people usually consider the PC crowd/SJWs actively bash on people calling themselves egalitarians? That's a common thing I've noticed from tumblr posts that I've seen
>>113531I'm fairly certain there are restrictions against that kind of thing my friend.
No. 113591
>>113531Most abortions are early, before the baby is fully formed. Fully formed babies are usually aborted for medical reasons. Laws in most places generally prohibit the abortion of fully formed, viable fetuses unless there's a medical reason.
And honestly? I would think "sluts" would just pop the few pills in the first few weeks of pregnancy instead of waiting for a surgical abortion later on, which is more difficult, time-consuming and expensive. I don't think people hang around that long when they realise they don't want a kid. Late term abortions unfortunately happen a lot to women who wanted to carry their baby to term and have a child, but couldn't reasonably do so due to medical circumstance.
No. 113597
>>113591I hate when people call women who have abortions "sluts". Accidents happen. Condoms break and birth control fails. Women get raped by a piece of shit and get pregnant. People in monogamous relationships get pregnant because, like I said, protection can fail. I'd rather a woman have an abortion if she
knows she can't take proper care of another life rather than have the baby and neglect it/dump it in some foster home. It's a very responsible choice.
And for fuck's sake, god forbid a woman has sex with multiple people because she
likes sex. As long as she takes care of her health, it's nobody's fucking business.
Thank you for clearing up the "Women kill fully formed babies!!!!11" myth. Hopefully people will understand now.
sage for OT. Trump is a piece of shit.
No. 113600
>>113531Only for extreme medical circumstances. Late term abortions aren't handed out gratuitously.
>>113533Your trolling isn't getting any better rightwing-chan. Those people exist and thus deserve the same human rights as anyone else. A 5 week old fetus isn't the same thing as a grown-ass homeless person or a little girl getting fucked with crochet hooks because mum kept the kid she didn't want.
Pick a point that is at least vaguely sensible if you must sit there forcing outdated Christian myths at me ok?
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>>113498Anon, people like you on here are why I said in my post above that I think I'd get along with most people in this community!
>>113531Oh, you mean
infanticide? I wasn't aware that was legal in the US.
>>113535I was hesitant to write that set first because I was worried I'd get flamed to death, but then I was like lol it's a fucking anonymous message board. But I'm glad it resonated with some people. Like, wouldn't it be great that my
potential for earning a million dollars meant I was a millionaire?
>>113562A rare post on here that is incredibly well thought out, reasoned and factual. Everything you mentioned is exactly why I still struggle to support her. Unfortunately I think a conflict with Russia might be unavoidable at this point, but you're right, Hillary is a hawk yo.
>>113564I know you're trying to be a dick but that actually made me lol.
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>>113592I know, right, I love it. I honestly don't know how real it is, like if the buttons were officially made by the campaign or not, but I love it. How do ya like this one?
Also agree with everything people are saying here about late term abortions. It's usually for medical reasons.
I'm kinda tempted to just keep using Richard Nixon photos in every thread until I run out. Lol
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>>113708>>113709Make a new thread to discuss this or go to one of the existing abortion threads.
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>>113800>TTTI'm not American, autoadmit NOWAG faggot. The university I did my LLB at was a top 30 globally ranked one.
And it's a fact. Everyone hates defense lawyers. It's not "just a job", they really do believe they're some pillar of civilization. It's hilarious how delusional they are. As if lawyers do productive work like engineers do, smh fam.
No. 114031
>>113711Haha American or not, they're awesome. I don't blame ya.
But hey, since you're not American I am curious. You don't have to say where you're from, but what do you guys think of the election over there? Who do you think will win? Curious :)
No. 114032
>>114031I'm not American, and Trump.
HRC is too
trigger happy on the whole war thing. She's a known quantity that has and will push for disastrous liberal internationalism.
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>>114032Assholes like Putin only understand violence. We have a responsibility to the world to deal with assholes dictators like him.
>Besides, our nukes can wipe out all of Russia while we lose merely a dozen cities… No. 114366
>>114032You want him to win or think he will win? What you said about HRC may be true, but I still think she will win. I just don't see Trump carrying enough states. Who knows though, maybe he will somehow win the popular vote. But hey, don't forgot the election is ~rigged~. I can't wait to hear his concession speech…if he even gives one.
>>114363Ummm holy shit that picture isn't real right? Like she didn't tweet that or anything, someone else made that right?!
No. 114388
>>114366>Ummm holy shit that picture isn't real right? Why, what's wrong with it?
Nothing wrong with women being in the armed services.
No. 114390
>>114363>Putin's bigotryI was speaking with a friend about this the other night. Remember how there were calls to boycott the Sochi Olympics in 2013 because of the Duma passing a piece of legislation about teaching homosexuality in school classes?
Well, couple of points on that one.
1. Russia is a federation of territories and Republics, most of the Republics already had far stricter laws against homosexuality in the public space prior to that law being passed. It's purpose was more to harmonize existing legislation at a subordinate level than anything else.
2. There's nothing in the MSM about Qatar's World Cup bid in 2022 and its relationship to gay rights. There's a few pieces about their treatment of migrant laborers, but that's about it. It goes to show something important: Liberals implicitly expect people with white skin who look like them to hold the sort of views they do (liberal on homosexuality and the family for example), and when they don't, they're much harsher and more proactive in going about witch-hunts than they are with non-whites.
To me this suggests two more things.
1. White liberals acknowledge racial differences in how it applies to culture on some level, they just fail to internalize the consequences of this as an axiom.
2. If you hold steadfast to your principles, like Muslims do, you shift expectations accordingly. If right wingers in the west weren't such cowards who balked and reneged on their promises to electorates every time some liberal rag printed a picture of some poor 35-year old migrant child being deported, then the middle ground would gradually shift accordingly. No leftist engages with a Muslim with the expectation that they should accept open displays of homosexuality (a la Fulsom Street Fair), but they do have this expectation of white right wingers, because most white rightists are simple cowards whose only desire is to receive the "moderate" stamp of approval from CNN/MSNBC/NYT/BBC News etc.
No. 114405
>>114363I'm confused - do people seriously think Russia is made up of exclusively white people and has no women in their army?
Read a book, Jesus Christ this is tragic.
There are several TV shows about women's training for the Russian army on fucking YouTube of all places, with subs. And where do they think Siberia, Chechnya and Buryatia are, with all those Asians and Arabs?
Genuinely curious what Americans think Russia is like, you can't be this thick.
No. 114411
>>114405I'm not American dude. And I know the Russian federation encompasses central Asian ethnicities. But that's irrelevant, from the perspective of most westerners their country is overwhelmingly white. And ethnic Russians themselves are of course too.
For some reason or another you managed to completely miss the point of my post.
No. 114424
>>114411>from the perspective of most westernersthat doesn't make it true though? from the perspective of most westerners nobody outside of america knows about toothpaste.
I really hope Trump wins so we can demolish North America once and for all.
No. 114432
>>114424You are completely missing the point. My point was about how western leftists see race, based on a comparison between the treatment of ostensibly (crucial word here) white Russians and brown gulf Arabs.
Now can you stop being a leftist sperger for two seconds?
I have some other food for thought as to why European leftists have a particularly visceral hatred for white Americans, but that's more psychological. And even less flattering to your kind.
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>>114405what most americans think of russia is nothing. if they don't have family or friends or coworkers from there/that visit there, don't visit for work, and otherwise have no investment in russia or russians, knowledge about the country is understandably low, based mostly off of movies and stereotypes. especially now since there is no cold war or soviet union, and the extent of russkies in the media is putin, daredevil teenagers, vodka, and blonde, buxom brides.
russia has no immediate impact on the lives of most people, ergo, there is no reason to care about it or its people or places.
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Just curious why did FBI director Comey announce they were reopening the investigation on Hillary with 11 days to go? Everyone knows the FBI won't be able to resolve this before the elections and this will hang around her neck like an albatross. Do you think Comey is making a power play?
>>114436I think so too. I've been seeing those popping up all over twitter.
No. 114748
>>114711I'm starting to feel the same way, anon. I don't like Trump, he lacks decorum and is certainly not president-material, but I don't think many of his ideas will get through congress. I'm a brown woman so people are fucking shocked when they find out that I'm not for Hillary 100 percent. Trump is a cunt but Hillary is actually corrupt.
Also kind of off-topic, but the anon above who got ~
triggered~ by the use of the term PoC got me wondering if people actually find that term racist, or is it just the association of the term with militant feminists and "reverse racism don't real" racists that puts them off? I personally think PoC as a term is fine in certain contexts, but usually saying "racially minorities" is suitable (for instance, if you're talking about non-white people in general, not just in the Unites States, then "racial minority" would be inaccurate, but otherwise it's fine).
No. 115258
I'll be supporting Hillary. I was undecided until the debates and Trump blew it.
I don't believe Trump is a stupid man, and I know Conway and Bannon were on his ass, warning him not to take the bait Hillary would throw out. The fact that he couldn't resist feeding the troll for weeks after the first and third debate tells me he has a dangerous vanity problem. His ego is more important than all the advice of his advisors when he's under pressure, and I think that's an unacceptable flaw in a person who will be commander and chief.
I'm sure people who disagree can list a million flaws that Clinton has, but she will listen to the advisors and experts around her for things that are important.
Donald Trump is on record saying that he would respond with force to Iranian taunting or disrespect "And, by the way, with Iran, when they circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats, and they make gestures at our people, that they shouldn't be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water"
His generals aren't fools, and they will tell him not to do that. But if he acts the same way with the Pentagon as he does with his campaign managers, he might actually start a hot war with Iran over something like this. I can't vote for him.
No. 115272
>>115256>you said you're a PoC right?I think you're confusing the anon you're replying to with me (I posted
>>114748). They didn't say they were PoC, I did.
No. 115344
>>115343Also, if anyone cares or was going to ask, I'm still supporting Hillary for all of the same reasons I discussed before in my above posts with all of the Nixon pictures, if they're still there. I don't feel like scrolling up to quote them.
Like I said, any Hillary supporter has come to terms with all of this email bullshit since early in the primaries. We still don't even know what was on them, and I think most of us have just assumed by now that yes, there was confidential stuff on there that yes, she was probably aware of. But AFAIK, it doesn't seem to have had a major influence in anything or caused any major issues with our policies. A lot of stuff can be classified for a variety of reasons. I'm not going to assume t was something minor, but given the way things have played out thus far, I'm not going to assume it was something major, either.
No. 115354
>>115343>I've heard that a bunch of ppl in the FBI below him were going to resign in protestHannity had Hillary Clinton's fixer on his show, a man who supposedly arranged wild lesbian sex parties for Hillary according to the national enquirer.
Anything anti-hillary gets on the show without any vetting. The idea that a bunch of career civil servants with fat pensions, airtight job security and legal godhood as federal law enforcement would decide to resign over her emails–thats even less believable than the fixer.These guys aren't righteous knights of virtue.
No. 115358
>>115354Oh absolutely, I take anything I see on Fox News with a grain of salt. I wasn't referring to that theory as being the one I liked best. I meant Hannity's theory that someone knew Wikileaks was going to release something big so they had to act now. He came up with that one "all on his own" and it just made a lot of sense to me TBH, especially with the type of stuff we've seen coming out of Wikileaks so far.
And lmao about the lesbian sex parties. Just about everything in that statement was a major red flag, as I'm sure you know:
>Fox News>Hannity>National Enquirer >Lesbian + Hillary Clinton>Lesbian + Sex parties>Wild lesbian sex parties for HillaryTop kek.
No. 115363
>>115354>>115358
>Hillary + SexMaximum kek. Even if a shirtless Paul Ryan descended onto her from the Speaker's chair into a bed of roses on the captiol floor, she'd still be dryer than the Sahara.
At this point she probably has exsplosive orgasms from reading polls that show her leading in the battleground states. Nothing else can do it for her.
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>>115363Lolz. Just imagine the multiples she'll have once she wins.
And since apparently anything goes this election, imagine the rage quit/afk of Hillary if she loses. Christ, when either one of them loses, no matter who gives the concession speech, it'll be top kek regardless.
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>>115454CHRIST get over it, it was a fucking week ago jfc. One of my bans got lifted early and the original ban gets lifted tonight (praiiisee I am so tired of turning off my wi-fo, then forgetting and realizing I used a shit ton of data on my phone). Anyways, you're probably the same ~totes edgy~ hardcore imageboard anon that was freaking out about it over in /meta/. Have I posted a single picture of Nixon in the past week? Nope. It's over with, move on thanks.
Christ, some of you really are pathetic. Apparently avatarfagging is more of a concern to you than idk, say, CP? Go cry about ~OMG! Le newfags! Gasp~ !
>>115455Lmao. No one take the bait here. Obvious troll is obvious.
>>115458Wow uhh I'm starting to sense some obvious samefag since my last post here, but whatever. While I don't really agree with anything you said, since we are in anon and all, I'm really not totally thrilled about the idea of a bunch of refugees coming in here, either. We have plenty of enough issues with unemployment, overcrowding, etc. And despite plenty of evidence that's it worked fine elsewhere in a Canada, the US is different and I'm just really unclear if the magnitude of refugees she would bring in…
And it's not totally an "Omg terrorist!" thing for me here, either, but idk, still. There's only so much we can know about these ppl who have been living somewhere that couldn't be more different than the west. And yeah, while everyone who's settled elsewhere and has been interviewed seems 100% normal and hates ISIS just as much, the enemy is determined and it just takes that one person to slip through the cracks.
With that said, Trump's entire rhetoric and stance on this issue is absolute garbage. It's fear-mongering, racist and every other sense of "deplorable" in the book lol. Talk about two extremes.
>>115459And that is…still going to vote for who? Lol
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I recently found out my small, close knit, Midwestern town is taking in Syrian refugee families and giving them 4 bedroom apartments. FOR FREE. Another larger city near by and a city up north my family lives in are doing the same thing.
lolz nope. Not in my town, my state, my country.
That what has single handedly made me decide Trump. With all the awful stuff about Hillary, and the fact that I tend to identify more with conservativism, there is absolutely no way I'd consider her. I don't think Trump is good, but he is a far lesser evil and I really feel it's the only way to keep Hillary from winning.
No. 115507
>>115486Yup…like I said about refugees earlier, as much as I've been arguing for Hillary, unfortunately some of these single-issue decisions are going to go to Trump. I swear half of the liberals, especially the young ones, are all "rah rah yeah let's take in Syrian refugees!" Until it ends up actually happening around them, and then they spend ever day worrying they're going to get bombed.
No one wants it in their backyard. Plus, seriously, why does America have to be the world police? Isn't this
exactly what everyone, especially the liberals, were complaining about when we went to war in the middle east? Like okay, how is their country's problem and democracy ours to fix? Now we have to take in refugees? How much do we need to fix?
No. 115511
>>115507We caused the Syrian Civil War, so in theory it's our responsibility to fix it. At least that's what Hillary's been doing as Secretary of State, funneling money and arms to insurgent groups worldwide in order to remove dictators and continue the Cold War.
Sure, we removed Gaddafi; sure, Assad is now in a bind. But now the entire Middle East is a hornet's nest of war and instability, causing pain to countless refugees and Europeans alike.
But Hillary refuses to learn and wants to repeat the same thing with Iran after she's done shooting down Russian jets in Syria.
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>>115511>Kill Gaddafi>???? comes into powerTwo things are possible
>New leader is democratically elected (not very likely)>Yanks put their own guy (usually with terrorist background) into powerYou know what happens next
No. 115586
>>115556>My biggest issue is abortionMan, this election sure has made me hate people even more.
Here's hoping Hillary just starts WW3 so I can rest easy knowing people like you will be killed as well.
No. 115609
>>115586It's unfathomable to some people that you might not be allowed to remove something from your own body, even if it is another person. Even if you dont intend to ever have an abortion, the idea that some bureaucrat has to give you the okay to do something that takes place entirely in the sovereign space of your own body is just off-putting.
It's such an easy thing to drop from the party platform, and Republicans can win everything forever because the rest of their policies are pretty sensible.
Trump should have held firm as pro-choice, but with Cruz and Carson biting at his ankles the whole time, he was cornered into tying the socially conservative anchor around his neck.
No. 115611
>>115609No one really knows what Trump really believes in.
Like Hillary, he'll say anything to appease his crowd to get votes. There is no guarantee he'll fulfill any 'promises' he made.
>Just like ClintonThe only difference between them two is Trump has few political connections, hated by Democrats and the GOP establishment alike. On the other hand Hillary has many political connections (including Wall St and big donors) can actually get things done (like start WW3).
No. 115616
>>115609>It's unfathomable to some people that you might not be allowed to remove something from your own bodyI personally don't care, so long as you don't try to make other people pay for/subsidize it.
I would be all for all this stupid bullshit people want if they weren't trying to make me pay for it via taxes.
At that point they can fuck off.
No. 115618
>>115511True anon, but wasn't this a result of us going there in the first place? A result of everything we started after 9/11 and what continued when Obama had to pick up the pieces? Genuinely asking, because I was kind of young when all of this went down and not really paying attention, so idk as much about it as other wars throughout history.
IMHO, unless any of this was a direct result of H.W. Bush's Gulf War, it doesn't seem like we really had any business there, ya know? And Saddam Hussein threading Bush's daddy doesn't count, either.
>>115555Lol, yeah, I heard something today on The Daily Show (ugh Trevor Noah…please improve. Especially that curly haired redhead that won't stop screeching about her period) that something like only 2% of "African Americans" (is it really preferable to be called "African Americans" btw?) are voting for Trump. And tbh even that sounds high to me…lol
>>115573Ugh are you serious anon? Besides the fact that you're voting third party (remember Ralph Nader…?), you're voting for
Jill Stein. She may have taken back her idiotic statement abt vaccines, but
she's a doctor and actually tried to pander to those idiot anti-vaxxers and
imply that they could be harmful. Even if she's clarified it now, any reasonable doctor in their right mind would outright say that vaccines should be
mandatory and would stress their importance and back it up with evidence in the interest of their goal to "do no harm." Fucking Jill Stein and her healing crystals…the Green Party could have done so much better. And he plan to banish student loans may sound good, but whenever she discusses it it's clear that she just doesn't know what she's talking about as hasn't done the right amount of research.
Also anon, check out her Reddit AMA. People pointed out even more worrying things abt her views, especially things her Vice President has said. And to make matters worse, she just didn't answer those difficult questions. I've never seen so many downvotes in an AMA…
And lastly, if you or someone else is going to give me shit for denouncing a third party candidate just because they're third party, I realize that is a problem, and that overcoming thinking like that would be the only way to actually break the two parties system and elect someone like that. But I thought about it, I even thought about maybe voting for Jill Stein, because if there's any time a third party candidate could finally shine through, it'd be in an election like this. I would 100% vote for her or Gary Johnson if I really believed in them and one of them truly alligned with my views. But they are both terrible and just don't know what they are talking about. This whole election is just shit all around unfortunately.
No. 115654
>>115610You're the cancer that killed our democracy and literally turned it into a two-party system.
>>115618>She may have taken back her idiotic statement abt vaccinesAnd Hillary took back her stances on opposition gay marriage, abortion, being for the Iraq war, etc. Politicians flip-flop, and if we're going based on what every one of them said at
one point then all of them would be hypocrites and unelectable.
NONE of the candidates answered any super huge questions this election season. It's all been clickbait shit like muh immigration, muh jobs, muh abortions, and shit like that. I've barely heard them talk about any actual research done to fix Obamacare (only that the opposition will 'take it back'), or the student loans, or really anything that impacts the average American on a day to day basis.
No. 115655
>>115654Samefag again but oops, actually Bernie Sanders did talk about that shit but we all know who he endorsed, so.
Unfortunately I can't write him in on my ballot in my state.
No. 115888
>>115879You are retarded and don't know how politics in USA works. Trump win means Republican house and senate which gives him chance to do anything he wants including nominating conservative Supreme Court Justices who may end up bringing back the country 50 years.
But you are just a retarded fucking ape so I forgive you for all your stupidity.
At the end of the day if you wanna be able to have an abortion in case your kid turns out to be a brainless sissy reatrd like those Hartley Hooligans you may wanna vote for Hillary, I know it's a hard choice that she deleted some emails and fell down once but such are the risks we have to take when the other choice is fucking Trump of all people.
No. 115889
>>115888This. Thank you for this anon.
For fuck's sake, I just want this election to end already. It's like I'm voting for which way we want America to fail, but I guess this election is about voting for the lesser of evil, Jfc.
No. 115890
>>115888I know it's a hard choice, but your premise that Hillary is the lesser of two evils is not sound.
One choice is a clown with an ego too big for his own pants, the other one represents corporate and foreign interests buying U.S. government appointments and policy decisions from top to bottom. I happen to believe Trump will do harm to the nation, but a much lesser harm than Clinton.
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No. 115895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BJRpfmCjrMOuch
I guess blood is not thicker than water
No. 115898
>>115892Yeah, because this incredibly biased image where when democrats make shit up, it's just "mostly true" or "half true", but when Republicans use the wrong gender specifier for trans people, it's 100% false, and even one where everything they say is 100% correct in a quote it still comes up as "Mostly false" because you don't like the comparison, that's absolutely fair.
And the final quote that shows up as "Pants on fire" is clearly taken out of context.
This is a fucking terrible image, and you should feel bad for posting it, no matter who you support, this sort of stupid propaganda helps nobody.
No. 115904
>>115903Oh shit, yeah, I missed that completely.
My point still stands about that sort of shit helping absolutely no-one though.
No. 115919
>>115886She has voted and supported pretty much all the wars we've had since 9/11. She's a complete warhawk and has argued for making a no-fly zone in Aleppo, which could
trigger war with Russia since enforcing that would mean shooting down Syrian & Russian aircraft.
>>115888They won't control the house and senate no matter what on november 8th.
And you forget republicans are milquetoast pussies who only give lip service to their constituents. They only care about corporate cock.
Did we see sweeping right-wing govt. changes under Bush when he had a supermajority in both houses? No. Even Reagan had amnesty passed and banned machine guns.
>>115888>At the end of the day if you wanna be able to have an abortion in case your kid turns out to be a brainless sissy reatrd like those Hartley Hooligans you may wanna vote for Hillary, I know it's a hard choice that she deleted some emails and fell down once but such are the risks we have to take when the other choice is fucking Trump of all people.yeah, no way in hell that will be overturned. and really worse comes to worst there's this thing called adoption.
No. 115930
>>115556That's what Trump is saying as a Republican candidate, most likely he still holds the same view he had on abortion before the election, i.e. he supports it. He even said in the Republican primaries that he supports Planned Parenthood, meaning he is pretty much the most pro-abortion Republican you can get. The justices aren't just going to turn over Roe vs. Wade because they're conservative, the Supreme Court is definitely more functional than that.
Please vote Trump so that the Republican party gradually softens their stance on abortion. Thanks.
No. 115946
>>115930I think you are being too optimistic, the neo-cons will fight tooth and nail to maintain they influence they've had over the GOP for decades. He's more likely to cave into the GOP dogma
The only reason people (including me) are voting for him is for the slim chance, however slim, that they could screw over the existing political establishment. Anything else is just wishful thinking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-CiPVo_NQ No. 115948
>>115946Trump is the very antithesis to the neocons, in fact most neo-cons have been on Clinton's side from Day 1 after Trump's nomination.
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/neocons-trump-voters-drop-dead-17344http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-neocons-are-still-winning-2016-17361I don't really see the relation between neo-cons and the abortion issue though, I think you have your Republican factions mixed up.
I'm not suggesting that anti-abortion stance will instantly collapse and dissolve should Trump get elected, but as I've said, Trump has been the most pro-abortion Republican candidate (and socially liberal in a few other areas as well) and is therefore a push in the right direction. A major Trump defeat would be extremely damaging to this political change.
No. 115949
Seriously don't fall for the retarded crap the robots are spouting here. No one knows what Trump's policies are gonna be, not even Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/03/donald-trumps-ever-shifting-positions-on-abortion/Now go ahead and attack the source. Soon you'll be crying off to r9k about how Trump lost anyway.
No. 115952
>>115949>anyone who has supporting arguments for trump must be a robot xDcan you not
>boring constant view on abortion (pro-choice) before politics>positions start changing wildly after entering the race as a Republican candidategee I wonder why
No. 115961
>>115956What does
>your carbon footprint is 0, you are vegan, you do not use any products tested on animals, you regularly volunteer all of your free time to others, donate to causes in need, and brighten the day of every single person you happen to come across with genuine happinesshave to do with telling others what to do with their bodies?
No. 116000
>>115989Neocon spotted
>>115985But why does that perfect human being get that right? It's still your body and circumstances, not the perfect person's.
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Tonight will be exciting, more so than the last two elections.
No. 116241
>>116234It makes me pretty angry that they write it in Spanish.
If you can't understand the language of a country you have no right to be voting in it.
No. 116248
>>116246The language is English, de-facto or otherwise.
Spics so fresh off the border they can't even speak English have no right to be anywhere near a voting booth.
I would never go to any foreign country and demand I be able to vote without even understanding their language.
No one is that extremely cucked except countries in the West.
No. 116316
>>116300Ron Paul has stated Jill Stein is the best on foreign policy, whereas Johnson is a fake libertarian.
Johnson is also an idiot.
No. 116330
>>116327Because they parties have spent this whole time enforcing a bipartisan mentality in order to precent a third party takeover. As recently as last week they were posting charts and infographics all about why third party voters should go blue.
A lot of the young, scared voters are misunderstanding what a president can actually do. Just like they did when they elected obama and thought he could fix the country. The hate and fear mongering was just an opportunity for the media and the two parties to get even richer than ever before.
No. 116342
Trump is just one big meme at this point. People saying they are fearing for their life? Scared of the outcome of America? Literally nothing will change, yet people act like come January all black people will be back in the fields and anything 'Mexican' will be banned from even mentioning.
>>116340I'm loving seeing all of these sore losers who have never had a passport in their life or have never researched immigrating to another country talking about skipping off to Canada.
No. 116343
>>116342Obviously no one should be shitting their pants, but it's a little naive to say nothing will change.
Republicans hold the house AND POTUS. Shit gets done when a party holds both of these, and it's likely they will hold senate as well. Additionally Donald will likely appoint republicans as supreme court justices.
No. 116346
>>116345They're fucking idiots, that's why. They don't know how politics work and I bet none of them have ever read a Supreme Court opinion in all their damn lives.
It's just easier to shout at people about their anxiety and how people are oppressing marginalized folks because they didn't vote for Hillary.
People are fucking dumb. I'm literally being told every thing I've ever done for reproductive rights, petitions I've signed, political campaigns I've participated in are "nothing" just because I didn't vote for that bitch or Dump and apparently that makes me a supreme selfish racist and sexist.
You know, not the people who actually did the pseudo
protesting by not voting to begin with.
Fucking assholes, the lot of them.
No. 116347
Looking forward to four years of burning it down so we can start over.
Still feel the same way I did in
>>110265With the addition that since Hillary and the DNC effectively rigged the nomination against Bernie (though who knows if he could have got it anyway) and then lost the presidency to fucking Donald Trump means that the democratic voterbase will split. Maybe they'll reform over authoritarian/libertarian lines.
This could be the beginning of the end for both the evangelical right and the regressive left. America might genuinely be great again.
No. 116348
>>116345Which I find kind of funny. They don't realize how fucked they got. Supreme Court justices are not elected, they're placed there by the government and they stay there until they die or retire.
I'm guessing if we get two conservative supreme court justices (which is likely since the tea party pretty much is the Republican party at this point), they will probably attempt to appeal gay marriage, abortion rights, and many other liberal laws.
We'll see though. Lol.
No. 116352
>>116351Trump doesn't give a shit about his position except that he can put it on his resume. I find it difficult to believe that he will veto much if not anything that goes through the house. Why would he? He may as well be Republican.
I'm genuinely curious to see how he's gonna handle foreign policy though.
No. 116361
>>116348The gay marriage law is a travesty, homosexuals have marital dysfunction rates orders of magnitude above those of heterosexuals. The entire social cause was manufactured by the entertainment and media industries, nobody even thought about this until soros backed ngos pushed for it and US TV shows started pushing a positive and sympathetic image of homosexuals.
Homosexuals have a life expectancy nearly twenty years below that of heterosexuals.
No. 116362
>>116359The irony is that he won because he brought out the poor white people to vote for him. But they're gonna get just as fucked as the poor brown people when things start rolling out.
Whether you're republican, democratic, or indipendent, you can't say this is a serious comedic twist.
No. 116364
>>116362Fucked by what? Liberals openly despise poor white people in America. They go on TV shows and make no secret of this fact.
It's amazing you expect poor whites to vote for people who smugly talk about how they "want to make white men extinct".
Are you delusional or something? Why would ANY self respecting white person vote for someone or something that gleefully talks about how it wants to destroy them and make them a minority?
No. 116366
>>116365And shitlibs openly talk about how much they despise poor white people and everything about them.
For shitlibs the very existence of "white neighborhoods" or "white schools" is a "problem" that needs to be "resolved".
Again: It is not in white people's group interest, regardless of socio-economic class, to vote for people who proactively despise them and wish to see them dispossessed as a group.
Leftists who sit there and wonder why poor whites "don't vote in their self interest", would do well to look at the sort of rhetoric that comes out of the left vis a vis white people, and their policies with regards to immigration.
No. 116369
>>116368I don't know the inner thoughts of the guy so it's neither here nor there.
My point is that on the balance sheet it makes sense to vote against liberals rather than for them if you're white, since liberals want to destroy white majority status everywhere on earth and find the very existence of something that is white - even if it's implicitly white - to be distasteful (see white neighborhoods, schools etc).
Like I said earlier: choke on your rage, you arrogant cunt. Did you think you could get away with shitting on whites forever?
No. 116373
>>116369Why would I choke on my rage? That would be implying I didn't vote for trump.
Fortunately for me my family is white and really wealthy, but I'm not gonna deny that he doesn't give a shit about the poor. Anyways, my family is more inclined to profit off the end result of this election so yay for that.
No. 116390
>>116389Yeah but with NATO disabled that gives Putin the go-ahead for invasion of Baltic/Eastern European countries
Catch me in my grave in 3 years
No. 116399
>>116398also sage but I've had thoughts of joining the military just to give meaning to my life
>>116397elaborate?
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>>116402>smallest evillol, you have no idea.
Russia just tells you not to allow American missiles on your territory, the EU demand you accept rapefugees at the point of a gun.
You guys love the EU too much.
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If you're white, keep safe. Shitskins are out for blood after this.
No. 116417
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>>116408Good thing I'm not white. I still voted.
>MAGA No. 116419
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>>116417thanks but you still have to go back.
>>116418you mean if he was or will be? the case was dropped.
No. 116420
>>116418The case was dropped, from what I've seen she admitted to making the whole thing up.
But yeah, he'd have been impeached if he was convicted with it.
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>>116403Christ, so fucking delicious.
No. 116435
>>116299I'd actually prefer anyone else over Jill stein. Trump and Clinton are both assholes and bad in their own ways but Jill Stein is the kind of stupid that makes it seem unlikely she can run a computer, let alone a
Country in turmoil.
She'd have banned vaccines and wifi then call it a job well done.
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>mfw americans literally elected a confirmed terrible person out of spite, hatred of "PC culture", and/or meme potential
This is hilarious. It's all downhill from here, little buddies. At least your tabloids will always have content. America confirmed for meme country once and for all.
Hillary would've been bad, but nowhere near as entertaining as Trump can and will be.
No. 116440
>>116437It really is so over the top. Does she expect anyone to believe that she passed out and became suicidal over this? it's ridiculous.
>>116438Trump actually had pretty good policies, and represents the possibility of change in what's at the moment a very corrupt system that doesn't really serve what the people want.
Clinton represented more of the same, and was pushing towards military conflict with Russia.
Whether Trump actually brings the change he spoke about is yet to be seen, but it was definitely the better choice.
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>>116435Trump wanted and tried to sue a Finnish fashion designer for using "Ivana" in their name. Now that is some special kind of stupid
>>116438I'm readying up my popcorns
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I'm kinda glad Trump won. He wants to war China and Mexico. He's gonna fuck up international relationships. Trump might shit America, but Hillary would shit all over the world. Good for us yuropoors.
No. 116451
>>116444A lot of people try to be respectful of others’ political views. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you 100%, doesn’t mean they’re objectively wrong.
When it comes to today, respect for those who caused this to happen is not an option.
Anyone who voted for this man, a man who rapes, lies, abuses, slanders, sues, threatens, mocks, and is unapologetic about it all… shares the blame. For what is going to happen to everyone. Including them.
Consider planned parenthood defunded. Universal healthcare? Forget about it. Gun control is out of the question. Gay marriage could even be taken away. Think of all the deaths that will directly result from this. More gun deaths, deaths from unsafe abortions, regular beatings upon beatings and verbal abuse directed openly at minorities.
And after standing impatiently behind trump all this time, the republican party had kept the senate and house of representatives. This is a dangerously conservative group whose fucked up narcissist leader won’t even listen to them.
Today roughly half of America voted for a man who has no respect for anyone who doesn’t look exactly like him. A man who has raped, assaulted, who has abused his power and who will be given control of NUCLEAR WEAPONS. A man who cannot be trusted to tweet on his own, let alone be in charge of the safety, economics and health of millions, no, billions of people, once you take into account how many people he will threaten with said nukes.
Today is a terrible day for America.
No. 116458
>>116451>Consider planned parenthood defunded.wrekt
>Universal healthcare? Forget about it.It never existed. The US already has two insurance plans that proportionally cost more than our entire NHS. Obama's plan was literally to tack on a THIRD plan with money that didn't exist.
>Gay marriage could even be taken awayI hope so.
>Think of all the deaths that will directly result from this.Yes, totally unlike the deaths that would be caused by laying down a clear casus belli in establishing a no fly zone over Syria. Totally unlike Clinton's war in Libya that has killed 50,000 so far. Or her husband's wars in the Balkans where they were bombing Serbian hospitals.
>This is a dangerously conservative groupIf Trump is "dangerously conservative", then what do you think of the LDP, PAP, Chinese Communist Party, United Russia, AKP etc?
You need to understand that what you believe in isn't some default belief held by all of humanity. It's ideology, and it's an ideology that is DYING.
>>116457It's self-evident, moron.
No. 116459
>>116438Want to know who the most dangerous politician in the western world is?
Justin Trudeau. He effortlessly combines neo-liberal economics with side-show social liberal policies to distract dumb, useless-degree holding hoi polloi like you ("Gender neutral bathrooms? Dude is AWESOME. 2016 bitches!")
Justin Trudeau is the template people like George Soros want to export all over the world. People who will quite happily cheerlead and champion free trade agreements that wreck local industry everywhere while simultaneously throwing idiotic millenial trash a few crumbs by declaring his love of fashionable brown person cause of the month.
The endgame of the western world, as far as liberal internationalists see it, is Justin Trudeau. A harmless, useful idiot.
Mass democracy was always a mistake. The Greeks realized it 2400 years ago.
>>116424>have been out for shitskins for monthsInterracial violence in the US is overwhelmingly black on white. What world do you live in where white-on-black violence compares? The one where you draw your ideas on general trends from cherry-picked, signal-boosted CNN leading stories?
No. 116460
>>116453>>116455It is, because the accuser dropped charges against him and admitted to lying.
>http://ijr.com/2016/11/730761-woman-who-alleged-trump-raped-her-at-age-13-dramatically-dropped-lawsuit-now-we-know-why/>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-rape-claim-allegation-jane-doe-suit-dropped-us-election-a7401411.html>http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/05/trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-again/>http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/report-woman-who-accused-trump-of-rape-made-it-all-up/>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-woman-history-drug-use-claimed-assaulted-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.htmlKeep in mind dates of these sources, most recent says
>The woman first sued Trump and Jeffrey Epstein under the name Katie Johnson - a name we know not to be her real identity - on April 26 in California federal court and filed an amended complaint in New York federal court in October, claiming she was subject to rape, criminal sexual acts, assault, battery and false imprisonment.
>'Ultimately it was discovered that Donald Trump's name had been inserted into this, he was not involved whatsoever. After that she had no credibility.'>But she also said that in 1994 she had no idea who her attacker was and that it was only when she watched The Apprentice that she came to believe it was Trump, claiming that she could not forget her attacker's faceShe's full of shit, and there's no real credibility to the other retards that came out of the woodwork to get their 5 seconds of fame either.
You can't even be bothered researching a case before you make a claim, let alone following the basis of our court system (innocent until proven guilty), so I had to assume you were kidding, but you seem to just be retarded instead.
No. 116463
>>116456It's amusing how clueless they are that a big part of why they're so fascinated with Japan and South Korea is that the distinctiveness of their culture (or perceived distinctiveness) is a function of their racial homogeneity.
If Japan were some highly racially heterogeneous state like the US then it wouldn't really have anything distinctive about it.
The endgame of nations for most globalists are case studies like Brazil: Shitholes with no identity, tons of mulattoes and no unity except during side-show bread and circus events like football matches.
No. 116468
>>116466Amerindians do have their own cultures, yeah.
This doesn't change anything about what I said though - in fact it reinforces it - Racial conflict is a function of racial diversity in a given polity.
No. 116471
>>116468Double reply but fuck it.
Seriously how can you use the genocide of native brazilian as evidence that racial diversity is bad?
That happened at least 300 years ago. Of course racial diversity was bad back then. People just wanted to steal land from each other. Although it's not much different from nowadays to americans, is it
No. 116472
>>116469I'm saying that racial conflict is a direct function of racial diversity in a given territory or polity. Japan doesn't have race-riots and a media that stirs up racial conflict every other week not because Japanese are more tolerant of non-Japanese than Whites are of non-Whites, but because, in quite simple statistical terms, the opportunities for such organized conflict are minimal in the first place through the sheer arithmetic of Japanese demographics.
Ergo, it is desirable that a state be, ceteris paribus, as racially homogeneous as is pragmatically possible.
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>>116471>It's ok to make formerly racially homogeneous nations into multi-ethnic empire states now because money and consumer goods will magically make everyone like each other and be peaceful and negate group conflict>just like it does in contemporary America, in Britain's predominantly Muslim/Other Minority towns (Bradford, Birmingham etc.), in the outskirts of Paris, in Xinjiang and elsewhere!You are so dumb. So, so dumb. I'm not even aiming to be pejorative. You're just a painfully stupid moron with no understanding of the world outside of your cocooned-off eurocentric bullshit issues ("this guy wanted to touch my frizzy nappy hair!")
No. 116474
>>116472As racially homogeneous is as pragmatically as possible but it doesn't mean crime rates or corruption are nonexistant. Japan has its' own mafia, that we all don't really know what it does but it seems to dominate many sectors in society. Their crime is more organized but still crime.
>>116473Nice try, I'm brazilian so I know first-hand what happens in my country. Sweet ad hominem.
No. 116475
>>116473Oh great, it's the tard posting these shitty meme pics again, that should make for interesting discussion.
Please ignore this guy, he'll just state more and more over the top shit and insist that you're an idiot for not believing it until you can't be bothered replying anymore.
I say it's the same person because it's the same retarded picture, same talking points, same posting style, same everything.
Not worth your time.
No. 116477
>>116474> but it doesn't mean crime rates or corruption are nonexistantStrawman.
>Japan has its' own mafiaRed herring.
>it seems to dominate many sectors in societyNaked assertion.
>Their crime is more organized but still crime.Redundant/Red-herring.
So to sum up your argument:
Racial heterogeneity is ok because the yakuza means Japan is just as unsafe as Brazil?
Did I read that correctly or is there something I'm missing here?
>Nice try, I'm brazilian so I know first-hand what happens in my country. Sweet ad hominem.You haven't actually offered an argument, except trying to guilt me about the settlement of South America by the Spanish (I'm not even Western European). Funny what people will resort to as their default argument of choice.
>>116475>>116476>muh echo chamberDie in your rage kuffar.
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>>116477Nice buzzwords, why don't you go kill yourself?
No. 116480
>>116478>why don't you go kill yourself?Because I have a career, a comfortable life and I will get to live long enough to see liberal democracy sputter and die the death it should have done two hundred years ago when it first infected stupid mercantile-class Anglos in Britain.
The real question is - why don't you kill yourself? What do you have to live for exactly? The next Venus and Manaki YouTube release?
#wrekt #notoracism #bringbackourgirls
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>>116459>dumb, useless-degree holding hoi polloi like you ("Gender neutral bathrooms? Dude is AWESOME. 2016 bitches!") You miss the part where I'm not American. I don't give a fuck about you or your strong feelings on gender neutral bathrooms. Your country has officially become a joke, and I am here to laugh at you.
(And tbh, Canada is doing better than you on pretty much all fronts).
No. 116486
>>116485I'm not American either.
>your strong feelings on gender neutral bathroomsReally? It's the central government of your country that made these sorts of things into policy issues and marketed them heavily among their electoral base.
>(And tbh, Canada is doing better than you on pretty much all fronts).Such as? Let's see you have a stab at econometrics, should be amusing if nothing else.
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>>116483Kek, yeah, that what you tell all your friends anon?
Better hope no-one sees you picking up that welfare check.
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>>116486>Really? It's the central government of your country Literally what? What country do you think I'm from? My government is too much of a clusterfuck in itself to give a fuck about bathroom policies.
You're grasping so hard that it's a little bit embarrassing.
>I'm not American eitherSure, buddy
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>stuck my neck out a lot during campaign to suggest Trump not be president
>politely respect other peoples' opinions but obv get crazies attacking me
>I never liked Hillary and thought she stole the primaries a la a rigged DNC
>vow to vote third party, nobody had a problem with my stance
>literally nobody mentioned third parties until like two weeks ago when fb started pushing vote swapping ads and "dun vote third party" ads for Hillary
>last night
>Trump getting closer to being elected
>sudden influx of regressive cunts literally blaming third party voters
>completely disregarding that some people who were third party voters were never going to vote Clinton anyway but didn't want Trump (like some disfranchised GOPs)
>completely disregard that Trump won by such a landslide in big states that even if Clinton got every single third party vote she still would have lost the state
>completely disregarding the literal millions of people who chose not to vote as a form of protest or who were unfairly purged from poll lists
>completely disregard how it's our fucking right to vote for whoever we see fit for president
>completely disregard how they were saying Trump and his wife were bullies while reacting like fucking bullies themselves and trying to guilt people who had little to do w/ the outcomes bc they can't handle their disappointment with the election like adults
Fuck, let me know when Facebook calms down and people stop being fucking pricks. Even my bf is terrified to admit he voted third party to his friends because it's not worth damaging or losing friendships over, and his retarded ass friends were the ones who were posting pictures of themselves crying and acting like the fucking hairy orangutan was waiting outside their door to scalp em. Fucking ridiculous.
You know, in past elections I heard the same bullshit about voting third party but NEVER have I seen the regressive left get so volatile over it.
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>USA: First non liberal internationalist President in over 7 decades
>Russia: One party state, right-wing.
>Turkey: One party state, Islamist.
>Singapore: One party state, right-wing.
>Japan: One party state, right-wing.
>Gulf: Monarchies, right-wing.
>Near East: Secular Nationalism.
>Western Europe: Left is pretty much dead (Hollande has an approval rating of 4% LOL)
>Eastern Europe: Electoral victories for right-wing coalitions in Hungary, Poland and elsewhere
No. NO!
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING! SHUT IT DOWN!
No. 116492
>>116487>I..I bet you have no friends and are a smelly virgin>But I bet you don't tell all your friends that you collect welfarelolcow doublethink. You people are a laughing stock - Look at the mental illness thread on /g/, or the sexual abuse thread - huge, an entire board full of people with BPD/HPD and/or who were diddled by their dad/fucked by some older guy.
I pity you. I pity you because I used to so many of you when I wasted my time going to weebshit like cons. None of you are professionally successful (asian exceptions aside), none of you are mentally healthy, none of you have functional, healthy relationships.
And I come from a background where it's shameful to claim welfare. Even if I had to work a service-tier job to avoid that shame, I'd do it.
Work will set you free. Obsessing over mentally ill e-famous weebs won't.
>>116489>regressive leftThere's nothing "regressive" about them. They're just following through left-wing causes to their natural conclusion.
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>>116491Why do you assume I'm Canadian just because I'm having a laugh at America's fall? I know you're distraught, but live a little, anon. Have some fun.
Honestly, I'm kind of happy for you. I'd love to be smack dab in the middle of a shitstorm like this so I'd have stories to tell my grandchildren.
No. 116495
>>116493Not telling us your country for one thing, and defending Canada of all places.
>stories to tell my grandchildrenValid point tho. Something I discussed with bf last night and we had a good raff.
No. 116497
>>116494The distinction between "left" and "right" in the current formulation is a distinction from liberalism - Between left-liberals (equality overrides property rights) and right-liberals (property-rights/liberty overrides equality) - both agree both principles are important, just prioritizing one over the other.
The thing is, if you base your entire ideology on the notion that
making things more equal makes them better then yeah, you do end up where we are now. It's natural and logical to autistically create all sorts of dysfunction and conflict to see any sort of inequality in outcome (even quasi-supernatural ones like "white privilege") as things that must be ameliorated through legislation, policy and "education".
Hence our current mess.
Right-liberals aren't much better though. Individual liberty is self-destructive.
>>116493This is you:
http://torontolife.com/city/life/tinder-tales-donald-trump-supporter/You aren't going to have any kids, and if you do have one, it will be some IVF tard baby in your 40s.
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>>116495I'd rather live in Canada than America, if I had to pick between the two. Less shit going on by far. They're not on the news monthly because some kid shot up their school, a cop shot an autistic person's caretaker in a panic or a terrorist group masquerading as an anti-racist group is looting cities, disrupting speeches and/or burning buildings and people.
>>116496>still thinking I'm Canadian>still thinking I give a fuck about any of this one way or another except for the meme magic>still being this butthurt that your country is about to get even worse than it was before all because the MAGA memes went a little too far and rural Americans got serious for onceListen, it's not too late to just move to Europe or something. You don't have to be this upset.
No. 116501
>>116492I never said anything about virginity anon, touchy subject there? Same with your hygiene, or your friends.
I just said you were probably on welfare.
>Look at the mental illness thread on /g/, or the sexual abuse threadShocker, a thread for talking about those experiences has people talking about those experiences in it. That's unheard of for internet forums, you sure caught me out.
>huge, an entire board full of people with BPD/HPD Do you even know what the terms you use mean, or do you just enjoy playing armchair psychologist and using them as insults?
>None of you are professionally successful (asian exceptions aside), none of you are mentally healthy, none of you have functional, healthy relationships. I mean, I'm a registered nurse working in a relatively presitigious hospital in my country, and have been in a relationship for going on 6 years now, but sure, you got me there.
I'm sure someone who comes here to post shitty opinions designed to be as inflammatory as possible is just a shining beacon of success that we should all aim towards though.
>And I come from a background where it's shameful to claim welfare.You must be a big disappointment to your family then, I'm sorry about that.
>Obsessing over mentally ill e-famous weebs won't. Who's obsessing? I come on here sometimes when I have some free time, check a few threads and then go do other shit.
Last time I saw you here you argued non-stop for like three days with a few different people though, so probably don't go throwing around accusations like that. Glass houses and all that.
No. 116503
>>116500Considering America's racial history, it's to be expected. Notice how non-refugee African immigrants to other countries (except for Somalis, who are Semitic anyway) or first-generation African immigrants to America are usually chill?
Everyone should just stay away from that shitshow of a nation.
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>>116506Sorry I don't come to chan boards for political discourse. I just think this is funny, said as much, and apparently that
triggered you enough to accuse me of being some sort of Canadian with a useless degree and a future IVF tard baby.
No. 116515
>>116513I haven't heard about that. Do you have any sources?
>Nigerians in Tokyo These are usually imported by yakuza specifically for illegal activity. Not sure about those in China.
No. 116518
>>116516So you are the pathetic Chad wannabe from the other thread?
I feel so sorry for you. Really.
No. 116524
>>116520I have seen some, and yeah, the people over reacting in this election is fucking crazy.
You've got people literally claiming to want to kill themselves because their candidate wasn't the most popular. They haven't even seen if Trump is good yet, just thrown a huge tantrum because they didn't get their way and tried to get some attention from it all.
I agree that it's digusting when people abuse services for the mentally ill that way, especially when they're already so full of teenagers who need someone to vent to (nothing wrong with needing that, but there's appropriate lines they should call).
You've got to wonder what the point is too, like, no-one's going to kill themselves. Sure, the most extreme sorts might cry and chuck a tantrum, but no-one's going to kill themselves unless they already had massive mental health issues, in which case over cooking dinner could have caused them to.
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>>116520>>116521tumblr is having such a crisis rn
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>>116521Don't think I have enough for it to be funny tbh. Also kind of afraid of exposing myself but I'll look through some public pages.
>>116524Nobody will kill themselves over this but tumblrinas seem to maintain that it will ~literally kill them~. It's such a shitty threat. They think they're fucking special. The US has had 44 other presidents, do they think they're the first to be upset over their favourite candidate not being elected? I don't remember hearing anyone from other generations ~literally killing themselves~ over it. So fucking dramatic.
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>>116525>people have already killed themselvesyeah fucking right. over dramatic shits. like anything is going to happen at state level, or that congress will allow anything ultra crazy to get passed.
on another note. does anyone else expect Trump to be assassinated / there to be an assassination attempt within the year? be it a cartel hit, isis/muslim hit, an unhinged sjw, or even in inside job? fuck, it could even happen if he somehow pissed off his pal putin. there have been presidents far less hated than trump that have been killed or attacked. i just wonder how long he's got before the first serious attempt happens.
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An anon in the vent thread requested post-election chimp outs. Allow me to share some of my milk.
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>>116536Here's a different person. I never realized how many liberal friends I had on Facebook until this election.
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Here you go, anons
No. 116544
>>116531Yeah, the whole "people have already killed themselves" shit is such crap.
I doubt that account's ever tried to, and killing yourself on Tumblr means making 10 over dramatic posts all swearing you'll do it, then saying you will and saying goodbye, then coming back a few days later and saying it failed or someone saved you and you're either fine now or in a hospital.
People don't fucking announce they're going to off themselves publically to online strangers when they kill themselves, and people don't kill themselves because they didn't get the president they wanted.
You have to wonder if people like that know how ridiculous they look.
No. 116545
>>116517Not sure. It's hardly like it matters. Their presence is still a negative in net terms for the nation.
I know the plurality of victims of knife crime in London last year were white, and as the link says the majority of perps are black.
>>116518Who?
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I'm Italian. For years, the entire world laughed at Berlusconi for being a complete idiot (which he is by the way) that only embarrassed himself and the country he represented, and we accepted it.
Now it's your turn America, and welcome to the Berlusconi Experience!
Btw, seriously, I didn't expect it at all. I wonder what will happen
No. 116555
>>116548A lot of these people de facto control online "spaces" because they don't actually have jobs.
I shit you not. There's a worrying trend of what is "trending" basically being determined by lowest common denominator bottom feeders who simply are the only ones who have the time to sit on social media all day.
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More
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i cant find some of the best ones. i should have saved them as i found the last night
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another
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because literally hitler
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like fifty different people shared this shit
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tranny triggered
No. 116573
>>116565Scared of what?
The most violent demographic in America ten years ago were young black males, the most violent demographic in America today are young black males, the most violent demographic in America tomorrow will be young black males.
The only mass violence as far as I can see has been some blacks in LA neighborhoods rioting.
No. 116576
>>116575lol, that's what I'd like to know too anon. A lot of them are funny because they say our country is shit (and it is), but they genuinely want Greek citizenship, and not just for the EU perks but to actually live here.
As with Britain, the pakis are among the worst.
What is it with pakistanis being terrible, reprehensible subhumans wherever they go?
No. 116577
>>116502Not that's anon but Venezuela is a perfect example. A once highly prosperous country has turned to shit because Chavez imposed price ceilings on food to make it more affordable for the poor. Now the whole country faces food shortages.
My issue is that people vote for whatever pathos argument they hear. They lack fundamental knowledge on how the economy works. It doesn't give a shit about equality because it distorts incentives. Not all policies that go against econ are terrible, but most go against it's main goal, which is efficiency.
No. 116578
>>116502There are innumerable examples, but more broadly I just think equality translates into increased chaos. Virtually everyone on earth, even liberals, agrees on some implicit level that it is hierarchy which gives us order and stability - so why establish, as a moral axiom, the very opposite of that?
If anything is axiomatically moral, it's hierarchy.
Muh Confucius.
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kek wills it
No. 116590
>>116333The POTUS only has so much power, but the fact that we're red up to our eyeballs is what's gonna cinch the deal for us to regress on shit like abortion.
I wonder how the anti-gun liberals feel right about now, aside from livid and hopeless.
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>>116594More from this one.
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I'm getting really sick of the sexism angle
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I never had any idea how stupid my Facebook friends were until election night. I actually don't know where to begin with how factually wrong, emotionally unstable, and delusional they are in their fears. None of them are self aware enough to understand their shock factor does not make facts about Trump.
A majority are spamming "Suicide Hotlines", claiming their house or place is a "safe space" if someone needs it, and the classic "unfriend me because you didn't vote exactly how I did" and the empty threat of "I'm going to have to leave the country to Canada" when I know their broke asses can't do it plus have no friends there.
No. 116603
>>116600Read some of the BS we've been posting from our Facebooks.
>>116595Is a nice long one.
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>>116604>expecting people from imageboards have minimal common sense when it comes to actual politics and not just buzzword meme tier /pol/ shitWew, anon.
No. 116612
>>116604>>116605>>116607I didn't vote Trump you absolute moron. If saying "they're factually wrong about Trump"
triggers you this much then you're just like them. They're factually wrong about Hillary too. They probably get all their information from Buzzfeed articles and it drives me insane.
Chill out and go take your meds.
No. 116613
>>116605No, I didn't expect that in general, it's that women populate this board and I did have some bit of faith that because this shit, you know, affects their actual lives more than guys on pol, they'd be somewhat sensible (can still lean to alt-right without voting for your own downfall) but of course the pressure to be cool and fit in with alt-right males and /pol/ culture was/is too strong. They're pathetic. They're like the "gamer girls" posing seductively with an Xbox controller x2000.
>>116610Are they still coming here? Wow, sad. That shit happened so long ago…
No. 116619
>>116613I believe most of the people following this alt-right trend are people who have few education and are easily manipulated. I notice a lot of people are uneducated about actual politics, writers, methods and whatnot but still will follow what /pol/ says because it's convenient for them. Mostly white people, as well.
As for the robots, a few weeks ago there was some CP raids in every board esp. /g/, they are still here, doesn't matter how many bans the mod applies, they keep coming back because rangeban doesn't seem to work or they are using proxies.
>>116615Basically the first paragraph of the post I answered, poster deleted to reply to another post too.
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>>116622>using ad hominemWell, now at least guys can't really say a rape accusation will ruin their lives, can they?
No. 116627
>>116610>some fake girls have been posting on the new thread.How do you know they're not girls themselves just pretending to be fake girls? They're obviously satirical fake girls, but nothing indicates it's a male who wrote the posts.
>>116621I'm not a full conspiracy-tard, but Alex Jones correctly predicted a few days beforehand that false rape accusations would come out against Trump.
This was before any rape accusations were claimed at all, and he said in the next few days they would come.
Alex Jones might be a bit looney but he was right that time.
>>116624Hillary Clinton actually won the majority of white female votes, I'm serious look it up. /pol/ is apologizing to women because they're so shocked about it.
No. 116637
>>116630Young female college-voters were overwhelmingly expected to vote for Clinton.
Non-college educated white women were expected to vote for Clinton too, but to a lesser extent.
>>116634What if we actually like Trump? You know there's people that like Trump right?
Not everyone is one of those "yeah both candidates like suck we're just like fucked no matter what" people.
No. 116641
>>116635You are goddamn right. However some people here claim that if you criticize Trump you are having a panic attack, kek.
>>116636>>116637Can't both coexist or you just don't want people taking bad things about your supreme leader?
No. 116650
>>116643>implying you have republican friendsWhite libtards are so neurotic that many really do cut themselves off from family who do not share their political views.
That's how deep the liberal sickness is in America. White kids will shit on their own parents for not being properly shitlib enough around the dinner table.
Sad when the very basis of civilization (the family unit) is degraded so thoroughly.
>>116649Powell was an apefirmative action general.
No. 116657
>>116651I assure you, I'm not baiting. You'll have to come up with some other stock response. Please refer to memory bank C.
>>116652I see it on twitter and facebook. People unfollowing close friends and family. This isn't the Optimates vs the Populares either, this is between two people committed two divergent variant of the same fundamental ideology.
Have you ever stopped to wonder at
just how like a religion liberalism is?Separation from family is what cults demand of people. It's not any great secret that the rise of liberalism in the 19th and 20th centuries inversely correlates with the decline in traditional religion.
What you need to understand is that liberalism is not some default belief system and that it draws upon a comparatively tiny pool of not just human thought, but western thought too.
>>116653Hillary didn't give a speech because she's a known boozer. Think about it, if you were going to jail, wouldn't you booze too after looking at the way things were going?
No. 116663
>>116661Mhm, sure anon, I am real sure that you keep your religion 100% out of state business' because religion and politics don't mix. Can totally trust on that.
>>116660What I mean is that people can't simply understand that no matter how many times you tell them.
No. 116664
>>116658There is no reason for Trump supporters to be mad.
I'm not wholly committed to Trump but I'm still radiant after what happened. Neo-Liberalism is being handed hammer blow after hammer blow (Duterte, China, Hong Kong, Japan, Eastern Europe, Russia etc).
You guys on the left need to do some serious soul-searching. The basic foundations of your ideology are being delegitimized across the globe, it has no brand value anymore - it lost it with non-westerners long ago (just look at Duterte's rise), but now even among the people who create it, it is failing.
You need to ask yourselves why and react accordingly. Or perhaps grow up and get used to a multi-polar world, because this absurd idea you faggots have of how every people, race and civilization on earth are all on some shared journey towards the ultimate goal of all: human rights, democracy, LGBT etc. It's a fucking fantasy.
>>116659That's a false equivalence. I don't deny that Christianity is actually a religion based on faith-based beliefs. I'm also not a Christian, and I fully acknowledge the pernicious effects of a lot of Christianity on western thought.
But still, Christianity is a religion and is acknowledged as such, liberalism is not and is believed to be the handmaiden of reason and rationality.
No. 116667
>>116666I didn't claim to be.
Can you define what a "carrier of reason or logic" actually is in an objective, non-emotional way?
No. 116673
>>116668>imagined villainsHillary Clinton didn't just imagine the destruction of large parts of North Africa and the Near East.
She proactively engaged in it. She promised to create a No Fly Zone over Syria, she stated she would treat claims of hacking as an act of war from foreign powers they were linked to by hearsay.
I'm not sure what universe you people live on where Hillary Clinton was the better option. Perhaps if your only metric is whether or not you can get more affordable contraception, but if that's all you care about beyond the things going on above you then your Nation is doomed already.
>>116669Liberalism is also based on part on Christian morals.
Or do you think the universalism (all humans are fundamentally the same, of equal value and morality is equally applicable) and nominalism you believe in is something that everyone on earth believes in by default?
Should we ban universalism? It is a faith-based belief with no grounding in biology.
>>116671If I had to sum up neo-liberalism in a single sentence, it would be "it's basically what you read in the Economist".
There is no way Trump is a neo-liberal. He is opposed to unmitigated free movement of labor and capital, which is a central plank in neo-liberal doctrine. He is also opposed to the idea of the exceptionalism of liberal democracy and the moral righteousness with which it must be promoted across the globe, with is another key plank.
No. 116677
>>116674So you agree that human beings and groups of human beings are biologically different?
Good. Now you're catching on.
>>116675Incorrect. Trump ran on a platform explicitly opposed to foreign adventurism. Whats more this was compounded by the fact his opponent openly touted American exceptionalism and America's duty to be the world's police (read: the guys who bomb and kill until everyone is permitted to vote).
The people in the rustbelt certainly don't support neo-liberal trade policies either.
Now I'm not naive enough to believe Trump can reshore American industry in its entirety, like it was in the 1950s, because we live in a multipolar world. But he can certainly do a better job negotiating trade deals with a policy that a) Fully understands just how valuable a market of 300 million consumers is to foreigners and - something predecessors haven't fully understood and b) Isn't in a position where allies are leveraging the US's bases as a sweetener for their own end, see Japan.
No. 116688
>>116684Apparently the right thing to do is to fear for my online friends' lives but I'm literally Satan for thinking they need to calm down just a little.
I mean I hate Trump, and never expected him to win, but I'm already tired. It makes me anxious because I feel like I can't say anything that helps them and only makes them angry at me.
Sorry I just needed to vent a little.
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>>116688I'm guessing you're white.
I think the important thing a lot of young, social-media orientated white girls need to ask themselves is why they carry water for, and take so much abuse from shitty "PoC women" who treat them like crap - from an outsider's perspective.
I mean the way you describe the situation it sounds like a perennially compassionate person reaching out to an abusive person who reflexively beats up on them whenever they have a mood swing.
No. 116693
>>116692Ah sorry, I forgot the large cohort of users who come here for the top-tier political, social and cultural discussion.
I will endeavor to better understand your group, anon-sama ^_^
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>>116693Whatever makes you sleep better at night.
No. 116695
>>116692>Whatever makes you sleep better at night.I didn't know we were discussing Hillary's zoplicone habit.
But ok I guess?
No. 116697
>>116691Yeah white European. So I walk a fine line between being compassionate, underestimating the situation and being smug I guess.
I love my friends, I really do, but it sometimes is hard because I'm supposed to feel bad for not having been abused and being so privileged. Even though I never pretended I'm neither of those.
I just want them to be happy but at the same time to just shut up and wait it out for a few days at least.
No. 116700
>>116696>"You need to understand, as a white woman">"White women need to stop doing x">"White girls are not good allies, here's why"I see this sort of stuff plastered all over Salon, Slate, The Atlantic and the usual social media suspects all the time.
>divisive rhetoricWhat you need to understand is that American society is already divided. All multiracial societies are divided by default.
>>116698No need to reply twice, blood pressure kun.
>>116697>being so privilegedEvery native group should enjoy a degree of privilege in their own homeland. We already acknowledge this to a certain degree by delineating between citizens and non-citizens, although it's woefully inadequate.
To me, it seems the height of arrogance to come to another person's country, especially in what are (or rather were) de facto ethnostates in Europe and demand to be treated as a native would.
Isn't that what this board usually chews out white girls in Japan for doing?
No. 116896
>>116702No, it's really not. Seeing as how you don't interact with them, your half-baked opinions are about as valued as a yeast infection.
Why has no one addressed the fact that Trump wants to execute Snowden?
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>>116703>USA is buying things from the entire world for stupid pricesAre you suggesting that white privilege or some similar voodoo is gaming the market prices of things like transistors and semiconductor silicon from the Far East?
The price they pay is the price the market sets, just like the price people pay for American autos, foodstuffs, industrial goods etc abroad is the price the market sets (plus any tariffs).
So I have absolutely no clue what relevance this had to my point.
>USA is buying things from the entire world for stupid pricesThe USA is bombing the middle east because your leaders have, over the past few decades, started to literally and wholeheartedly believe in the koolaid that liberal democracy is the final and ultimate stage of human existence. That and the fact it coincidentally whacks enemies of Israel one by one.
>centuries of europeans exploring the entire worldThe attempt to pin some sort of unique historical guilt on me will not work. I'm from a group that lived under the yoke of an Asiatic empire for 400 years that made the British Empire look comparatively humanitarian and benign. I simply do not recognize your simplistic, bullshit narrative of non-whites as perennial victims and whites as perennial oppressors. It is ahistorical at worst, pandering fan-fiction to the impulses of white guilt at best.
>So no, this so called "native privilege" only applies in your wonderland.No, it applies everywhere. Try lodging a claim as a plaintiff in a Chinese civil court, as a foreigner, against a native Chinese. You'll lose by default. You'll lose because you are a foreigner. Much the same will happen in Japan and South Korea, let alone the Gulf where such ingroup preference is inbuilt into the very fabric of the legal system.
>>116897You're replying to two separate people now, blood pressure kun. Try to bear that in mind.
No. 116899
>>116898>The USA is bombing the middle east because your leaders have, over the past few decades, started to literally and wholeheartedly believe in the koolaid that liberal democracy is the final and ultimate stage of human existence. That and the fact it coincidentally whacks enemies of Israel one by one.Should mention here, anyone who believes the Iraq War was for "oil" needs to
actually take a look at who the postwar Iraqi government awarded all the major oil contracts to: Hint, the largest one went to a state-owned firm called "Sinopec".
No. 116903
>>116902Uh, Sinopec are one of the largest energy companies in the entire world. They're one of the largest companies in the world full stop.
Are you slow or just black?
No. 116908
>>116903I'm not supposed to know that because I'm not an economics student. I'm not slow or black.
>>116905Skeletons are as disgusting as obese men.
No. 116909
>>116908That's not a matter of economics, anyone who has traveled would be able to tell you what Sinopec was.
>Skeletons are as disgusting as obese men.You don't have any market value to be picky I'm afraid. High-value girls don't go for nebbish Asian men.
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>>116912>tall women>desirableKeep digging.
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>>116914>170cm>tallHahahhahaha you are a manlet
No. 116917
>>116910>>116911>>116912>>116913If you're incapable of defending your political beliefs, don't try and transparently change the subject to "robots".
Either your arguments can stand on their own merits or they can't. Simple as that.
No. 116920
>>116917Your arguments are all strawmen, you are impossible to argue with, always with the buzzwords, it's not funny anymore at this point, so it's decided the thread will be dedicated to mock you until you left or some admin deleted it.
>>116919By quick fuck you mean everyday with my husband? Yeah sure anon, I love me some quickies
No. 116925
>>116920>Your arguments are all strawmenWhich ones specifically?
>buzzwordsWhich ones specifically?
>dedicated to mock youThis thread is staying up. It's the dedicated election thread, not the "Bad Diversionary Rhetoric 101" thread.
>>116920If you have a husband why are "alt-right" guys constantly chasing you? They're a niche internet subculture, you'd need to seek them out in the first place for that to happen.
No. 116930
>>116926Ikr, just look at Breivik, he was average at best but did plastic surgeries, lifted, bleached his hair, all that jazz just so he would look
pretty when he got convicted lol
No. 116931
>>116926"Strong Nordic men" do not date girls who hang out on the imageboard equivalent of the National Enquirer.
And the "alt-right" is a phantasm. It doesn't exist. At best it's a marketing term.
>>116930Breivik's actually a pretty decent guy as far as women go, he gets a good amount of female fanmail but only stays in contact with one girl he fell for years ago.
No. 116933
>>116930>>116930exactly! they all have the sad, sunken cheekbones, weirdo eyes, mousy hair styled with so much foul smelling hair product that they look greasy, even with their (predictable) hitler youth haircut
>>116931oh it does exist. you wouldn't know what strong, nordic men date because you aren't one. most of you are unattractive, of like, serbian or eastern european, or english ancestry with pathetic rat faces that dream endlessly of a masculine visage that you'll never have.
No. 116935
Can anyone post more Facebook and social media milk? I love this shit.
https://twitter.com/MileyCyrus/status/796377820091981824Have Miley in tears, crying over the fact Hillary has a vagina.
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>>116931>fat face>no cheekbones>no fucking hair>pathetic bone structurehe looks like a fucking carny from north carolina in a suit. your angst won't make you hot
No. 116940
>>116936Just imagine the kind of shitty white trash he's "dating".
The worse part is that this scumbag is gonna walk in a few years and will still get pussy from mentally handicapped girls. Literally PC saved him, if Norway didn't have its' share of PC he would be executed for what he did.
No. 116941
>>116937Southern European men are more masculine than Northern European men though.
>>116940That's the most hilarious part of the whole Breivik situation. All of those soft criminal justice laws were ok provided they were being used for black and brown rapists and murderers, but when Breivik suddenly got to take advantage of them, they were bad.
No. 116946
>>116942Criminal justice systems in the west are designed to hurt people. The levels of violent recidivism are so high that there can't be another explanation. They let these "people" out of jail knowing full well they'll rape, assault and potentially kill again. They sometimes do it many times.
Bad people need to die. They need to be expunged from the population. Anything else is a dysgenic death spiral.
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>>116935Ask and ye shall receive.
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>8 years of libtard and feminist shilling
>Still hasn't been able to get laid
No. 116957
>>116956The ideal "middle eastern men" are basically Southern European passing men wearing jalabiyas.
If you think girls think Omanis and Egyptians are better looking than Italians, Spanish and Greeks, then lol.
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(((German))) media are now claiming it's up to Germany to defend (((Western Values))) against America.
We Euros are laughing so hard at this shit.
No. 116961
>>116935Speaking of insane celebrity reactions, here was Gaga at a Hillary rally in Nazi attire and blonde hair. I have no idea what the fuck she was thinking, even for her, or why she was allowed to do this.
She's now protesting outside the Trump tower because "Trump is full of hate". Aren't Nazi's an iconic symbol of hate and racism to anyone not /pol/?
No. 116962
>>116961See, the fact the entire auditorium are going crazy over here is enough to turn me off Hillary and the Dems right there.
At least you get a bit more skepticism towards celebrity fucktards among your average midwesterner. I think humans have an instinctive need to worship or adore, in the case of Christians they already have that with Jewsus, but atheist libs sublimate this instinctual desire towards celebrities and people like that.
No. 116968
>>116964I'm surprised you got what I was saying, I've never been able to describe it that well since it's quite a weird, emotionally esoteric thing but basically - although I feel it's driven partly by cognitive dissonance, still more of it is driven by this sort of understanding
I actually wrote a little thing that gained some notoriety years ago about the Sochi Olympics that drew upon this. Remember how libs were furious about Putin's re-agglomeration of existing Russian constituent state law into a Duma-approved federal law against teaching homosexuality in schools? Remember how it elicited hyper-ventilation tier rage from libs? To the point there were calls to boycott Sochi?
It's worth bearing in mind no such boycott has ever been called for Qatar's hosting of the 2022 World Cup, despite their own anti-homosexual laws being far stricter and harsher. In fact I can barely find anything in the MSM about it, just a few op-eds about the abuse of migrant labor in building the facilities.
But basically, my theory is that libs subconsciously see Russians as "white people" like them, and expect them to behave like other "white people" (LGBT, Human Rights, buttfucking parades and all that good stuff), whereas with browns - and most non-whites - there's no such expectation of reciprocity of values.
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No. 116975
>>116974You derailed this thread right here:
>>116634
>dissNigspeak too.
No. 116977
>>116968i agree that liberals give them a pass and it's bullshit. there is a genuine blindspot for human rights offenses as long as committed by non-whites, but the rest of what you say is nuttery and you sound pathetic and insane.
>>116972nah, i'm curious about where you're from. i'm not all that asspained as i'm an italian citizen and thankfully don't have to live through that nightmare aside from when visiting family
No. 116978
>>116977But what you described is just a condensed version of what I stated in more words. The expectation for Qataris and Russians diverges: Why? Obviously there's some sort of subconscious thought going on that, as you said, establishes non-whites as somehow "less further down the path to true civilization" and correspondingly, not holding them to the same standards.
>where you're fromI'm the other Southern European you spoke to earlier.
>human rights offensesOut of interest, do you believe in a God?
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>>116979If western countries are white supremacist superstructures, why do they ostracize and ruin people for off-color remarks about blacks and other non-whites?
No. 116982
>>116979he's never met a black person who uses "nigspeak". love how these europeans fan the racism in the US when they've never lived there.
>>116980because they have some modicum of decorum. you're just classless
>>116978you spoke to more than that. i agree with you on that, and the no fly zone. that's all.
>do you believe in a God?i'm agnostic. do you believe in a God?
No. 116988
>>116982>because they have some modicum of decorum. you're just classlessThat doesn't answer my question. If western countries are so geared towards the maintenance of white privilege, then why do they stigmatize and marginalize people who say off-color things about non-white races in a way that they don't even do, socially at least, with violent criminals?
>you spoke to more than thatWhat exactly?
>i'm agnosticOk, so what imbues people with "human rights"? What makes them anything more than ink on paper that can be overturned with a signature or three? I assume you think they're more than mere words.
>>116983That's not an answer.
No. 116991
>>116982And this:
>never lived thereIs true. But I've lived in parts of Northern Europe that do have significant black populations, and they're exactly the same as their American cousins. Just as criminally inclined, just as inclined to blame everyone else (including other European immigrants).
Pretty much everywhere on earth large numbers of black people gather together is a shitty place to live.
>>116987Diss is slang for disrespect. Dumb white people started "ironically" using it and forgot its true meaning.
>>116989Trump did not say anything explicitly racist. He said that Mexico was "sending their worst people" to illegally emigrate to the United States. In other words implying there are several stratas to the Mexican population - most good, some bad.
The fact you interpret something as basic as stating: "A population group has good elements and bad elements" as beyond the pale proves the very point you were defending against in the first place. Do try to keep up!
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>>116991>parts of Northern Europe that do have significant black populationsYeah, sure.
No. 116995
>>116979exactly this. hillary won the popular vote. the white supremacist system voted him in.
>>116991wtf? no, they're really not. i've lived in America and in europe, exposed to european blacks (and black immigrants) and American blacks. they're not the same. you're speaking out of inexperience. it's obvious.
No. 116997
>>116991“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”
“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”
No. 116999
>>116968that's quite interesting, and i didn't follow the sochi olympics closely but out of curiosity i am inclined to go read up. thanks for the explanation. and while intellectually i can't really articulate the experience, yes i completely got what you were saying, i observed it with my own eyes being involved in local arts/new age community. it was like most white people would put up with nigh on racism and abuse from a small handful of black people in what seemed like hopes of obtaining some kind of gratification
sage for derailing, obviously not all black or whites people are like this but this was a very "liberal" cluster which i think has some bearing on behavior
No. 117000
>>116992I thought you said you weren't butthurt about the election results?
Can you provide evidence of Trump saying anything that could be explicitly described as "racist"? You may as well call Obama "racist" for the various "typical white people" he made throughout his campaign and biography if you want to employ loose standards of proof like "it hurt the feelings of my poc friends".
>>1169937% of London is black. Parts of South London especially (coincidentally the worst areas).
>>116995>wtf? no, they're really not. i've lived in America and in europe, exposed to european blacks (and black immigrants) and American blacks. they're not the same.See:
>>116516Blacks commit a massively disproportionate amount of criminality regardless of the country. This idea that Blacks in Europe are somehow all upstanding gentlemen compared to those criminal American blacks is a fiction.
>>116995>the white supremacist system voted him in. No, a system both sides based their campaigns around and have been doing forever voted him in. Understand that campaigns are built on that, and that in a popular vote scenario, campaigns would run very differently and correspondingly the popular vote aggregate probably wouldn't be the same.
>>116996Not really. I guess it boils down to semantics. I don't like how Christianity has retarded thought in the West especially - too much universalism, Neoplatonism would have been better in the long run.
>>116997Trump's right on the second count (blacks are lazier, just like whites are lazier than Chinese). But that's hearsay from Rosie O'Donnell, and thus irrelevant.
No. 117002
>>116998I don't think you realize how much of liberalism is based on Christianity.
The very idea that conquest is wrong and something you need to atone for is mired deep in Christian theology. There's a reason Mongolians aren't asking the Arabs for forgiveness, why Arabs don't teach their children to feel guilt for running the largest slave trade on earth and so on.
The idea that winning at war is something you need to feel bad about it very modern, and would have been very peculiar to people prior to the 19th century.
No. 117004
>>117001No, he didn't say anything explicitly racist because the only "evidence" you could provide is hearsay.
That's independent of whether or not the manufactured statements put into his mouth are
true or not. Come on, we're not dealing with abstract concepts here.
No. 117010
>>117007There is no
our perspective in geography, you dummy.
No. 117012
>>117000american blacks and european blacks have a totally different cultural backdrop. it's not the same, they do not act the same. you've admitted you cannot compare as you've not lived in america, so stop trying.
>>117004you're responding to the wrong person.
1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.
1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump's Castle, accused another of Trump's businesses of discrimination. "When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor," Brown said. "It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back."
he has a long history of racism
and you're a dunce, not even aware of the shit he's done. that quote was from JOHN O'DONNELL, former president of the Trump Plaza, not fucking Rosie O'Donnell.
No. 117020
>>117017also, nice try faggot
Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that "the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true."
dude is unapologetically racist, sexist, and you're still trying to deny it. take his balls off your chin at take a good hard look at reality
No. 117021
>>117020A lot of people say things about Trump that could be all true but his supporters simply dismiss it because "he couldn't have done, it's probably jealous people or liberals lying".
Do you realize how naive that is?
No. 117022
>>117008I think the idea that white privilege exists in any systematized way, beyond basic in-group preference that all people have, is disproven at the first and most basic hurdle: Is the state set up to protect the native majority?
If not, it simply doesn't exist by default in any meaningful, institutionalized way, since guaranteeing
>>117009So because I said I'm technically agnostic on the subject of God, I'm a fedora? Even though I'm explicitly opposed to anti-religious rhetoric and "humanism"?
What exactly do you have to do to not be considered an internet caricature? Post about how depressing your life is in one of the myriad mental illness/sexual abuse threads around here?
>>117012>american blacks and european blacks have a totally different cultural backdropThey're completely alien. Most friendship groups in the UK are not particularly mixed, I live here for goodness sake. Most London boroughs are heavily self-segregating, most whites do not want to buy in shitholes like Lewisham for example.
So the principles are the same: Blacks are poor, make shit music (grime in the UK primarily), underachieve, do not generally reach the professions and do not create meaningful culture of any kind. What is more, both groups are objectively far more criminal than whites.
>>117013Class is a fiction and race overrides it every time, because race is actually real and meaningful. There has never been a successful attempt to synergize race and class, even in a place like Cuba the racial divisions between majority-Spanish descended people and blacks are massive. Even in Communist China you had Chinese rioting at African students dating Chinese girls, after decades of Africa-Chinese friendship propaganda.
No. 117026
>>117023>>117024Friendly fire sis, we need to stop this.
If we're going to fight through the next four years of racism, sexism, anti-blackness, colorism, some seriously FUCKED UP islamophobia (how the fuck can you be phobic of the people who invented couscous?) and oppression against black bodies then we need to stop fighting with each other.
Make sure you are well equipped, because we are in for one hell of a fight: We're going to need all of that anti-racism when we move forward together. Get your sociology degrees ready, get your arguments sharpened, and fuck the white male patriarchy.
No. 117028
>>117025>innocent menI don't think you realize how DNA exoneration works. It doesn't "prove their innocence" any more than an appeal against a prosecutor's fuckup in the Rubin Carter case proved his innocence (he almost certainly killed those people if you look at the material facts of the case).
Stop buying into this Hollywood-tier Making a Murderer shit.
No. 117040
>>117030In the Marxist sense, yes. Social classes exist, but history is not the story of their conflict. In times of existential threats, ingroups double-down. Look at the Roman Republic vs. Hannibal. They accepted the leadership of an aristocratic senate because they believed in that structure of government and explicit social class makeup.
>>117029>>117029In the case of the central park five:
- DA didn't allow the cops to interview Reyes after his "confession".
- They didn't allow other prisoners to talk about it or speak to cops about it.
- The CP5 were rampaging through the park assaulting people randomly at the time of the rape.
- DNA was never used to convict the CP5 in the first place.
In short, fuck you and your dindu narrative. Funny how when it comes to actually dealing with rapists who aren't conveniently cherry picked rich white frat boys, it suddenly becomes a "complicated" issue and all that fiery talk about protecting women actually amounts to sweet fuck all.
You'll never see a white feminist actually advocate the death penalty for a black rapist.
>>117031Just curious, is anyone in your country ever held to account for recidivist rapists, violent criminals and murderers? Does any parole board take responsibility for that?
>>117037>you live in your basement>actually you're a trust fund babyKeep the narrative straight. Also that's not me you're replying to.
No. 117051
>>117041If you do not believe in a God, then your "human rights" are nothing more than ink on paper, and can be undone with a signature or three.
I already stated this.
>i'm not even going to address guilty or innocentWhich is precisely the most important point of any criminal justice system ultimately: Of maintaining domestic peace and tranquility. Unfortunately you seem to have lost sight of that.
It just baffles me you can, as a woman, be so outraged over someone wanting to execute five violent rapists, so pearl-clutchingly mad about it, and be totally ok with a revolving door prison system that releases violent men out to rape again and again and again.
>>117046Kek'ed.
>>117047>countless other politiciansHuh? Clue me in here, but how many secretly did it? Is it really "countless" numbers?
And everyone knows Powell was a diversicrat "we're not racist!" appointment. Dude was an incompetent.
>>117048Calm your tits. That's not me.
>i'm so enlightenedYou never did answer me. If I'm a fedora for being a mild agnostic or explicit atheist, a bible thumper for being a Christian. Then what exactly is the "right" answer? Buddhism? Jainism?
Islam?
No. 117053
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>>117051Please notice the amount of people in this thread. There is at least 2 besides you and me.
No. 117063
>>117054>pretty patheticIt's not a value judgment, it's a statement of fact. You ascribe supernatural qualities to simple legislation.
>people can have morals without depending of a religious dogmatismThe morality of most self-proclaimed atheists in western countries is just a secularized variant of Christianity anyway.
>>117058>idiot, if you convict the wrong peopleYou haven't read the material facts of the case. The CP5 almost certainly did rape that woman, if you actually want to discuss this shit, then read at least a summary of the evidence that was brought to bear against them, instead of relying on Making A Murderer tier documentaries with an axe to grind. That's all I ask.
No. 117066
>>117065Are you seriously thinking I'd marry an asian with a tiny dick?
I have some self esteem, anon. Wouldn't waste my time moving to another country to have to buy a vibrator.
No. 117069
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Gonna go to sleep, this was funny, thanks, anons.
No. 117070
>>117067>unaware of the evidenceWe don't know this. And that goes for most people advocating their innocent too, that's the point. You're (I'm assuming) comfortable with people advocating the innocence of someone before a trial has begun.
More specifically I have no faith in Anglosphere criminal justice systems (and more widely western ones). They're literally designed to hurt ordinary people through the release of recidivist offenders. There's a feeling the endemic levels of criminality that lead to a series of random assaults ending in a rape in your country's most advanced (supposedly) city is just some sort of… background noise you need to accept.
European and American leaders need to be carted off to East Asian cities to see how things are run there, maybe the penny will drop.
>>117068I got into an argument with someone years ago who flipped the fuck out at some anti-BLM comment I made (white girl), when I questioned her on her love of Japan and wanting to move there, she genuinely and truthfully believed that Japan was just as liberal as the US in regards to issues like immigration and social norms and culture and what have you.
I think some are delusional and some are, as mentioned above, just given the benefit of the doubt because they're "PoC".
>>117069Welcome. Me too.
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Can I hop on the social media crying train too?
This was posted by a woman who is a feminist and all the other posts are by feminist women as well. I find it so distasteful and hypocritical tbh.
No. 117080
>>117078Yes please!
Lets #MakeThisThreadGreatAgain
No. 117108
>>117078This just shows what a gross double standard your typical regressives have when it comes to women they dislike. I hate to use the term "slutshaming", but that's exactly what they'd call something like this if the woman was politically aligned with them.
Just imagine if it were Michelle Obama or something. People would be all over it, calling it tasteful nude art and attacking anyone as some puritan. How is this okay for people who claim to be feminists?
No. 117109
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traumtized
No. 117111
>>117109Yeah, I'm sure that happened.
What compels people to make up politically charged stories like this?
No. 117127
>>117078Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to join in that circlejerk and never would I do so on my social platforms, but I don't think this is appropriate for a first lady. I really didn't need to see what her tits looked like underneath her clothes. I don't think this is tasteful art, and I find it hypocritical coming from people whose campaign is literally trying to be the slogan for conservative/modest/religious values.
Additionally, if another professional female (and god forbid an ugly or fat one) had their nudes leaked you'd bet your ass their career would be on the line for it.
No. 117139
>>117109How much of this shit do you suppose is just made up?
I know some guys on /pol/ collated a huge list of confirmed "fake hate crimes". Everything from your standard blm crap to Chinese business owners painting "chink" on their own businesses.
I wonder why it's so common.
No. 117143
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>>110237Hillary supporters are actually telling Muslim women to stop wearing their hijabs in public because of some invisible rise in "hate crimes" since yesterday. The left that claims to defend their religion is telling them to "blend in".
Their ignorance as to why you never take them off is astounding, too. Men in their religion could legitimately beat the shit out of them for it if they're caught without it.
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>>117144>muh hypocrisyExcept for the times it was okay for conservatives to shame Michelle for showing arms when she wore dresses, right?
What feminist thinks a nude bimbo should be first lady? Sorry rational people aren't thristin' after your primped hussie.
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/28/michelle-obama-look-like-a-first-lady-bobbie-lussier_n_1922236.htmlLussier: “No, she doesn’t. She doesn’t look or act. I mean, can you imagine you know, Kennedys or the Bushes or anybody doing pushups on the floor? I mean you know. That’s just not a first lady.”
Shapiro: “A lot of people wondered if there was a racial undertone to your comments.”
Lussier: “No, it’s not. I don’t care what color she is. It’s just she just doesn’t act and look like a first lady. I mean she’s more about showing her arms off. … I think that’s very inappropriate for a lot of functions that she goes to.”
Shapiro: “So do you mean it’s an issue of modesty?”
Lussier: “Yeah. It’s respect and … for being in the White House.”
Shapiro:“Fewer sleeveless dresses, fewer pushups …”
No. 117147
>>117146Imagine if Jackie Kennedy trolled around wearing scraps of clothes that showed off her sculpy puddy tits for money!
Pft.
No. 117148
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Well, this seems to be the most prevelant meme Hillary's shills could come up with. It's everywhere. Does anyone else think the term POC is racist and marginalizing? (To use their nearly meaningless terminology.) Liberals are lumping every ethnic minority in together. Like, that sounds like the kind of thing they'd be totally against if the right came up with it.
No. 117153
>>110237>huffington postYou're really grasping for straws here. This isn't slutshaming because there's just nothing slutty here to shame. It's just some people arguing over menial clothing choices and not liking Michelle's personality. It happened to Sarah Palin all the fucking time too if you want to argue that. Happens when you're a female celeb of any kind and other women partake in it too. Jackie Kennedy is known as a fashion icon, for example, while Hillary Clinton would get critiqued for boring pantsuits.
>>117078This is actually slutty and meant to be sexual. Shaming this is what actual slut shaming is. There's no clothing here to critique and her personality is inferred to be sexual and these people are shaming her for it.
No. 117157
>>117150>or announced a plan or proposition after his presidencyUnfortunately that isn't entirely accurate, his "100 day plan" is a pretty popular memepost on /pol/ right now since it's been confirmed.
>http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-daysNow I didn't exactly freak out like a sperg or a rabid SJW either, but there are a few issues of contention. They just have nothing to do with race or LGBTQ issues. But specifically, this is why anons like
>>117148 think it's shilling because people are voicing
very real concerns about Trump's plan.
My main concerns are how he will treat middle and working class taxes, environment, infrastructure, and international relations. Member how Trump says he would significantly cut taxes for the working class and families? Well that's been misrepresented:
>http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/trumps-tax-cut-claims/His plan also outlines how he'll take away investments and resourcing for alternative energies to put into infrastructure (what good does updated city waterlines do when the watershed is polluted?), force the Keystone pipeline, and pursue energies like fracking, oil, etc. He'll scrap legislation like the Clean Power Plan. No clean energies in sight because he doesn't believe in global warming. This is not in the long-term interest of our nation to pollute ourselves like a tertiary China for the sake of jobs.
>http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/the-candidates-on-climate-change/>>117151>there is no such thing as protest without "vandalism"Civil disobedience doesn't ring any bells for you?
The brown lady that sat in the white section on the bus?
Those other brown people who sat in at a restaurant until they were arrested?
Well, it does seem like a pipedream now compared to the attitudes of modern black people, I'll give you that. But peaceful protest is entirely possible and effective.
>>117153>trying to force this slutshaming bullshit on meI get to have a judgement on my country's first lady and her conduct. I don't have to like the fact that she's a nude model, a plagiarist, and a trophy wife. It doesn't make for a good role model for young women in this country, and it's not someone whom I'd like to have other countries see as representative of mine. She's not a beacon of morality or modesty. That's that.
Btw, Sarah Palin wasn't our first lady. She's irrelevant.
No. 117162
>>117156You do know it lumps with the other protests I was talking about right lol? This parade your speaking of happened around here in North ridge and in many other states and it still caused an impact. There wasn't vandalism or any of the sort so no it can still be used in practice. This vandalism and burning of flags only happened to some protests around the country yesterday, not all.
And you missed my whole point entirely because you wanted to nitpick because you disagree.
Riot =/= protest
I honestly don't care anymore, people just want to justify violence any way they want to even tho there is no solid purpose for it
No. 117163
>>117161
>Mohist
>this sector of taoism is pretty much extinct so
>Moriori>Tainui-WaikatoIt's funny because maori were pretty much genocided lel
I could go on with the list but just because they happened it doesn't mean all of them actually helped with something.
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>>117163>wants a list of nonviolent protests that "helped something" in history>deliver>"Well I don't have time to nitpick all those, so."Baka ass motherfucker just admit you goof'd
>>117164>She ran for vice president and people wouldn't shut up over her being "too sexy"You mean other than being an out of touch paegant queen airhead who knew little about government or politics? Don't defend Sarah Palin, most conservatives wouldn't friendo.
No. 117174
>>117173>that fucking assumption>implied I voted for Hillary>"hurr first ladies have no play in politics"My post is
>>117157, feel free to respond to my concerns instead of harping me about that broad.
But you sound like a tard, so I doubt I'll get any meaningful response from you.
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>>117175Facts and links are "sperg" material now, hm? Then fuck off.
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>>117181Okay, so not from my personal Facebook, but Kat's tears are the most delicious imo. Check out her Twitter or Facebook for some top keks
No. 117189
>>117188And so begins the vicious hate storm towards all white people. Cause you know, its not like gay people, blacks, or trans people are capable of voting for trump. Nope, its all whitey's fault, even though there are plenty of white people just as
triggered by Trump as Kat is. I fucking hate sjw cunts.
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Is this true?
No. 117197
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lmfao
No. 117203
>>117200Like seriously. Are you seriously that dumb to think that once the president elect gets inaugurated, he's going to sit right down in that Oval Office, take out a legal pad and start writing up and passing laws and overturning laws left and right, start calling in the troops to round up dem illegals and toss them over the border, and when hosting parties in his new home, take out the Big Red Button and play party games with it?
Holy shit you need to step away from the reactive people in your life and take a good look at reality.
No. 117205
>>117203Not the anon you're replying to, but he (Trump) doesn't need to. Republicans control all the branches. I'm sure someone there will find he time within the first year of election to fiddle with birthcontrol availability/price.
I don't know why so many conservatives are against free/cheap birthcontrol. It cuts down on unwanted kids who end up being supported by welfare, who grow up and have unwanted kids… rinse and repeat. The pill is relatively inexpensive, and a fuck load cheaper than the monthly welfare checks struggling single parents get or the single moms who demand child support from their baby daddies.
No. 117208
>>117205Not going to happen. Worry about problems happening in the now than bullshit people keep literally sobbing about because they're emotionally stunted from spending too much time on the internet.
This election is literally like ever other one. In two years the the midterms is going to flip it to the dems just like all the other midterms in recent years tended to flip to the side opposite of the president.
No. 117212
>>117208You're right about the midterms, Trump's election will definitely bring out the democratic vote like crazy when the time comes. And i think republicans realize this. So with republicans controlling all the branches, even for two yeara, expect a lot of stuff to get done/passed before they lose the chance to have a ride so smooth.
Things took so long the last 8 years because dems held POTUS and senate, while republicans held congress. It was a tug of war when it came passing policies and such. Which is fine, but isn't a reflection of what will happen now.
No. 117213
>>117205>I don't know why so many conservatives are against free/cheap birthcontrol. I don't think they're against cheap anything, they just don't want to subsidize it.
Which I'd say is pretty logical, I personally don't care what anyone does with their body/life, so long as they pay for it with their own money.
No. 117218
>>117215>>117217I have no problem with the systems used by insurance companies, I DO have a problem with making insurance mandatory.
If you don't want to subsidize the medical care of others, you can choose to not have insurance, making it mandatory removes that choice.
Also don't see what HIV/AIDs patients have to do with my argument.
No. 117220
>>117218I guess I see birthcontrol as a life long (if you take it regularly) treatment for unwanted pregnancies (which usually become everyone's problem when they are then supported by welfare or by their struggling baby daddies).
What I don't understand is how conservatives think think uneducated people are going to suddenly wise up about sex or sexual related things. Unless you're willing to spend you tax money on increasing the outreach of legitament sexual education, you'll be paying for their ignorance anyways in the way of welfare. And let's be honest, conservatives do not want either of these things.
So what would be a good solution? This is a good discussion were having and I'm curious what you think would be a plausible way to go about it.
No. 117222
>>117220I doubt you'd need to increase public school funding for a sex ed class, I think the opposition on that front is more a "muh chilrun" issue. Hell, in most cases you could just have a sex ed unit in many of the already-mandatory health classes.
As for welfare, I don't think these children or single mothers SHOULD be supported on the back of taxpayers. I can't think of many times when welfare has been a net gain for a country.
No. 117224
>>117223Whoa, I never said sex-ed should be mandatory.
If some parent doesn't want their kid taking sex-ed, that's their right.
That said, I do agree that cutting educational funding is an issue.
But, on the flip side that's at odds with my view that you shouldn't be forced to subsidize something you don't partake in.
I'm sure most people here realize how shitty public schools are anyways.
No. 117226
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Stop squabbling you morons. Back to the fun.
No. 117240
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No. 117250
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the only fucking believable one
No. 117260
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HIGH ENERGY
No. 117265
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>>117262I didn't even vote, nor do I support either candidate, but I've been posting Trump memes on facebook and mining the salt. It's awesome.
No. 117267
>>117233Poor people can't afford a box of condoms?
They can't afford to have non penetrative sex? Really?
No. 117275
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My concern is for the economy only. I wish I could spam Trump memes on Facebook during this time of utter grief : - )
No. 117276
>>117275It won't last long.
You'll soon be trolling the alt-right for getting hoodwinked.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/21/donald-trump-says-transgender-people-should-use-the-bathroom-they-want
>He should have waited another week so we could continue salt mining No. 117282
>>117267Condoms can break.
>non penetrative sexYeah, let's start using coitus interruptus too. Why the fuck not?
No. 117285
>>117275I think global warming is the biggest concern regarding Trump. He needs a chat with DiCaprio.
>>117276It would be nice if he would keep on doing this until basically swjs can't find any more excuse to hate him, and extreme righters can't find any more excuse to let Trump justify their actions. If I were Trump, I'd be annoyed by the KKK trying to leech off me, and then swjs accusing me of supporting them.
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>>110237>trump wins>bum buddies with Putin>first lady is a slavOur day has come
God is a slav
No. 117288
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Good lord
I mean Allah
No. 117292
>>117282>Condoms can break. Literally every form of birth control has a chance of failure aside from complete abstinence.
Is this bait or are you just this dumb?
No. 117300
>>117288Yeah, let me insult the people who practice that religion by treating their garments like costumes to suit the ends of my social agenda.
SJWs are the worst.
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>all these liberal tears
Delicious
No. 117305
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I'm really not even sure what this means
No. 117339
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No. 117380
>>117331[citation needed]
let me know because i'll invest in latex right now if you've got some insider info
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No. 117394
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>>117382Then why is every single photograph of Trump supporters rallying a sea of white people?
No. 117395
>>117394Also, I should probably add that Trump supposedly had a staggering 1% of black voters on his side, according to this article:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/nbc-wsj-poll-clinton-jumps-nine-point-lead-over-trump-n623131Somehow, I really don't think a "significant number of black people" were pro-Trump, or that Trump supporters aren't majorly a certain type of person-who happens-to-be-white.
No. 117398
>>117394It's almost like photographers could be trying to make a political statement or get images that suit an article that goes along with it or something like that.
>>117395These articles clearly were off, unless you think that Hillary won the election.
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>>117398But surely there'd be at least one black person in any of those photos if there were really that many of them. Even photos taken from pro-Trump and/or unbiased sources are mostly white.
And, I doubt the figure changed by much just because Trump won. It's pretty obvious who mostly supported him and who didn't.
No. 117402
>>117401First off, there are black people in that photo, and secondly, as I said, they're looking for a certain image for the articles.
Any photo of a political rally will be mostly white though, America is mostly white people, and there was a really bad turnout of black people in this election voting from what I've read.
And the figure was likely just flat out wrong. Almost every single one showed Hillary ahead or almost definitely going to win, and then Trump won by a huge margin.
So I wouldn't rely on what polls showed as accurate in the slightest when those polls were so far off the reality.
No. 117404
>>117395>still believing pre-election pollsWhy are you a fucking idiot?
It has been shown that 8% of blacks voted for Trump. 12% of black males and 4% of black women.
No. 117410
>>117402>First off, there are black people in that photo,Literally where? I'm looking at it now and see none.
>as I said, they're looking for a certain image for the articles.Why would a pro-Trump photographer want a certain/mostly white image for its supporters? Really makes you think.
>Any photo of a political rally will be mostly white though, America is mostly white people,I'm not arguing against this, I'm just saying that there isn't really a "significant amount" of black Trump supporters, or at least far less than
>>117382 was trying to imply. Like anon said, the "racist Trumpie" stereotype didn't come from nowhere.
>>117404>still in the single digits rangeThat sure does sound significant.
No. 117417
>>117410You are an idiot. But
>>117415 is a bigger idiot so you win congrats.
No. 117448
>>117410>Literally where? I'm looking at it now and see none.Middle right, top rich, dude on the left of Trump doesn't look purely white to me either, but it could be just skin tone.
>Why would a pro-Trump photographer want a certain/mostly white image for its supporters?Because Trump has always been pushing for an image of America at it's prime, which was mainly white. He's appealing to his voters, not in a racist way, but the whole "I'm going make America great again and reduce immigration" line doesn't look as great when you've got an audience full of ethnic minorities in your photos.
>I'm not arguing against this, I'm just saying that there isn't really a "significant amount" of black Trump supportersAs I said, there weren't a lot of black people voting full stop from what I've seen. Both sides had a terrible turnout of voters.
>Like anon said, the "racist Trumpie" stereotype didn't come from nowhere.It comes from a very select group of people and was then applied to everyone. That sort of attitude in particular (the whole "If you don't like exactly what I do politically you're a racist") is a major part of what got Trump elected, and there was considerable discussion of it even before he did, because it's a dirty manipulative tactic designed to suppress others opinions.
And if we're talking racism, I'd argue Hillary supporters with their constant talking about how "White people" are shit or make bad allies or are all out to get minorities or ruined everything or whatever the fuck are far more racist.
Racism has never been something that only applies to minorities.
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Compared with Mitt Romney, Trump did better with ALL minority groups. The improved support from minorities was just as big of a factor as white turnout defeating Hillary.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/exit-polls/ No. 117451
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>>117450If you look at the data again, the only group Trump did worse with are WHITE PEOPLE
>t. chink No. 117469
>>117465"Fuck these libs and their SAFE SPACES. CRY BABIES."
"Muh traditional family! DESTROYED! BY THE GAYS! BAN THEM! I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE RIGHTS!"
Lmao. Can't and don't take you seriously. Not one bit.
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>>117471Oh, yeah, you're right. I forgot about those weird, gay orgy households. Dicks for miles. Men on top of men everywhere. Can't get away from 'em. They are dismantling the very foundation of this beloved country with their sausagefests. Our soldiers didn't die for this.
No. 117516
My two cents. Trumps an idiot, of course but a SMART idiot. He's that dick in class that did no work, made smart ass remarks at the teacher and still somehow managed to pass.
I do think after that meeting with Obama he shit himself. Alot. He has no idea what the fuck he's doing, that party is using him as the front man and it fucking worked. Now he's stuck and he doesn't know what to do, the half crazed/4-chan like policy's he made have been bulldozed by the inner works. Trump was supported by Farage, responsible for Brexit and then backtracking on the promises he made and quickly jumping ship, only doing it so Farage could fuck his wife even smuger than before. Trump thought that's genius and exactly what I can do, except I'll just sit in office and faff around, maybe shit up the world and have some laughs.
What he actually got was a very simple "…oh shit" at what he's done.
I know Hilary is fucking mad. Wanting another cold war, all the same. Trump could start that just with a stupid fucking tweet, he's back tracking so hard he's gonna be doing backrolls at this point. This election was a shit show and they need to fucking sort shit out in that crazy cesspool of a country.
No. 117533
>>117517 You're misinterpreting the election results almost exactly wrong, the Democrats nominated the single most repulsive and mistrusted candidate they could find and almost won. Even if you were right, white urbanites in metropolitan cities are the only people with any money or power so they've been getting almost everything they want consistently since the start of the industrial revolution.
Metropolitan cities is a redundant phrase, but that extra polysyllable sure is impressive!
You robots aren't intelligent enough to satisfy the serious discussion needs of lolcow posters, please go back to the kiddie pool
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>>117533Go fuck yourself you whiny faggot. Go be a little self-worshiping libtard, you Satan-worshiping piece of worthless shit. You think you're a good guy? You're not. You're a bad person. Everyone is bad except for Jesus. I'm sorry for you, your parents must be complete retards. And you think you can spit on this peaceful and prosperous land built by my people who worshiped Jesus/God since arriving here in the 1600s, and you think you can worship Satan on this land? You should be hanged, faggot. Now that Trump is President, you better be a good little boy. We're a lot less lenient than that faggot nigger Obama. We want a comfy society for people who worship God. If you are unwilling to submit to Jesus, the one true God, we will destroy you. If we were like Jesus, we would let you overcome us, but we are flawed sinners, who want to live in a comfy society. If you want to worship your own power instead of thanking God and repenting, if you want to worship your own strength, I'm sorry for the pain you will feel. We don't give a fuck about the 'sins of our past', nigger. God forgives those who repent. If you think that was bad, our damage output is going to be off the charts after all these years of being held down by the satanic establishment. Try us, little bitch.
No. 117540
>>117533Not an argument.
Whichever way you want avoid facing reality, the facts are that liberalism, as in the liberalism of the past two centuries, is in radical and terminal decline across the entire fucking globe. And this isn't even counting the defeats you are now facing on home territory in western Europe and North America.
Keep on hoping against hope that Arabs, Turks, Indians, Russians and chinks see the light. The high water mark of liberalism in China was 89 incidentally.
Dumb lolyer.
No. 117542
>>117541You know Modi is to the right of Trump right? And the BJP are a literal nationalist party? Modi was the governor of Gujarat during the 2002 pogroms against Muslims there.
Next you'll be telling me a majority of chinks hate the CCP and the Arab spring was about "human rights" too.
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>>117540>liberalism is in decline>all american states are legalizing ganja>same gender marriage is becoming more common>women issues are more and more discussedlol, anon, nice strawman
No. 117551
>>117550>Weed being legal is liberalQue?
Hell, even in my ultra-liberal state people are getting sick of all the retardation that comes with liberalism, especially identity politics.
No. 117558
>>117550No shit. America is the center of global liberalism after all. America invented fag rights, miscegenation as moral imperative, feminism, liberal democracy as the only acceptable form of government and multiculturalism. It is the single most powerful tool the left has ever wielded in human history.
The point is that as once what reverberated in America reverberated around the world. Now what has been reverberating around the world reverberated in America.
>>117533>muh historical materialism No. 117565
>>117563I'm not saying it has anything to do with you.
I'm saying India is moving to the right. If you don't know anything about domestic politics over there that's fine, but thinking a country that moved from decades of Congress Party rule to the BJP is becoming more liberal is truly delusional.
Anyway. Laws in India on social matters may as well be meaningless. Technically there isn't a caste system, it states so in the constitution, but anyone who knows anything about India knows that's pure bullshit in practice.
No. 117566
>>117564Isn't that the guy who denies the Armenian genocide?
And had a temper tantrum on election night?
No. 117605
>>117603Scott Adams, the Dilbert author who predicted Trump's win last summer, has also said Kanye is also one of the few who could pull it off.
Up to you if you believe him.
No. 117622
>>117588Wat. Which "black female tripfag" am I, pray tell?
It's weird that you'd respond to a 3-day old post to make some weird accusatory internet threat.
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So have white women officially been kicked out of the sjw camp?
No. 117854
>>117847All the girls holding the sign look white to me
Do you have to be blonde and blue eyed to be white to americans?
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>>117871The media is doubling down on their talking points since doing otherwise is confessing a political bias during the election.
No. 117891
>>117884Upset about what? Taco bell being racist or some dumb shit?
What's funny is the liberals kept saying trump supporters would be soooo violent and angry when trump lost but now look at them. It's the other way around. Also their fake ass "hate crimes" like shittily writing whites only in sharpie over the school.bathrooms aint fooling anyone. Sjws are known for this shit.
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Oh boy.
No. 117930
>>117921Are you implying that Trump supporters would have had protests more violent than the anti Trump supporters have?
Most Trump supporters I knew in real life seemed to have already assumed that Hillary would win. Normal middle class people. Why would they violent when they (and I) already had just accepted that Hillary would win?
No. 117946
>>117921>How does the electoral college workAppaarently via white supremacy and sexism according to Mark Stern of Slate:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/11/11/the_electoral_college_is_an_instrument_of_white_supremacy_and_sexism.htmleven though the reason racial minority and women's votes were disenfranchised historically had to do with laws that were completely different from the specific law that established the electoral college.
No. 117949
>>117941>Jew supporting white minoritization >"Haha you stormfags are so crazy. Thinking we all support mass immigration and anti white policies"Kek.
Also. You can't feel sympathy for the white working class while supporting the same policies that harm them.
Fucking neoliberal faggots. Never thought I'd see a day when the so called left were on the streets defending TPP, NAFTA and wage depressing immigration for the benefit of elites. Morally bankrupt as fuck.
No. 117950
>>117910Many Hispanic Americans identity as white. And many more used to before the bullshit ahistorical revisionist movement called indigenismo started in the 60s.
>muh aztec heritage Said the person with 80% of their genomic markers coming from Europe.
No. 117957
>>117873By SJW standards, yes.
>>117949>Never thought I'd see a day when the so called left were on the streets defending TPP, NAFTA and wage depressing immigration for the benefit of elitesyet they think it's all about
muh feelings*muh equality
*muh welfare check haha
No. 117963
>>117930>Are you implying that Trump supporters would have had protests more violent than the anti Trump supporters have? Implying? I thought it was pretty explicit.
>blah blah muh personal anecdotelol. Trump supporters literally promised to get their guns out, not to mention trummp himself said the election is rigged should it have gone to hillary. I'll get it from the horse's mouth than you thanks.
Anyone claiming they think trumptard would be more peaceful than the protesters right now is a lying sack of shit.
>>117934See above.
>>117946I'm saying the fact they haven't voted didn't matter at all since their state went to hillary anyway. What the hell are you on about?
No. 117965
>>117949Yeah, it'd be so much better if these stupid neoliberal shits supported a bunch of fiscal conservatives who want to lower taxes for the rich and compensate by getting rid of obamacare! That'd be so much better for those poor whites!
Fucking retard
No. 117975
>>117965It has nothing to do with taxation. This is what you clowns don't get. You don't just rebuild an industrial and manufacturing base from some minor changes to fiscal policy. It's about broader matters like trade and technology transfer.
White people in the Midwest do not want $10 more per week in welfare. They want real, productive, industrial and manufacturing jobs. The jobs that wall street and faceberg / silicon valley said were replaceable by services but very clearly were not.
Liberals present no solutions to the de industrialization of the West. That's why the right is winning. The present day darling of the liberal left and a living embodiment of a TED Talk, Justin Trudeau, is even more neo liberal economically than his consevative predecessor.
That should tell you just how morally bankrupt the contemporary mainstream left are.
No. 117990
>>117984>white peopleYes, all 1 billion white people hold these mutually contradictory beliefs.
>>117985>They want something completely unattainablelmao, ever since this election cycle millenial shitlibs with humanities degrees have become MACROECON EXPERTS at telling everyone else why America can't have a manufacturing or industrial base anymore because muh services economy and 'complex global interconnected trade'. It's almost like shitlibs just watch TV and regurgitate
whatever John Oliver, Conan, Jon Jewart etc parrot…
Seriously. It's just fucking bizarre listening to cunts who were, 6-7 years ago on demonstrations against the "1%", now arguing of the necessity for NAFTA, a new cold war with Russia and a no-fly-zone above Syria.
>>117989We shall see. If Trump even does half of what he proposes (international dis-engagement, cracking down on H1B abuses, ramping up deportations, re-negotiating NAFTA) he'll be a better President by Hillary by those facts alone.
No. 117992
>>117990>Seriously. It's just fucking bizarre listening to cunts who were, 6-7 years ago on demonstrations against the "1%", now arguing of the necessity for NAFTA, a new cold war with Russia and a no-fly-zone above Syria. And let me ask you people a pointed question. Forget about rhetoric for a moment. What exactly
are your politics?
They're not opposed to neo-liberal economics (Hillary, Trudeau).
They're not opposed to liberal internationalism and its wars/color revolutions (Hillary, Obama).
You're not for any sort of economic socialism (again, Hillary, Obama, Trudeau).
I struggle to understand what it is people like you who identify as progressive, or as liberal in some capacity actually stand for.
As far as I can make out, you guys support gender neutral bathrooms, trannies and mass immigration. Oh, and you don't like Russia - because he passed a harmonization of the RF's constituent states laws about sexual education through the Duma which you perceived as "homophobic". But at the same time, you're cool with Islam.
Some platform you got there.
No. 117999
>>117995>They try to act kike"Try"?
They are literal kikes (Soros et al).
No. 118000
>>117995>They try to act kike"Try"?
They are literal kikes (Soros et al).
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>>117990>lmao, ever since this election cycle millenial shitlibs with humanities degrees have become MACROECON EXPERTS at telling everyone else why America can't have a manufacturing or industrial base anymore because muh services economy and 'complex global interconnected trade'. It's almost like shitlibs just watch TV and regurgitatewhatever John Oliver, Conan, Jon Jewart etc parrot…
>Seriously. It's just fucking bizarre listening to cunts who were, 6-7 years ago on demonstrations against the "1%", now arguing of the necessity for NAFTA, a new cold war with Russia and a no-fly-zone above Syria.That's one nice giant ad hom attack. Trying to keep hidden the fact that they're still right and you have absolutely nothing to provide for a counterargument whatsoever?
No. 118063
>>110265>(contradicting herself on a daily basis) Is this some kind of joke?
Supporting Trump and then saying this is what you didn't like about shillary? lmao.
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No. 118295
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/17/weaponized-ideology/man, i am so perplexed. this article:
>george soros is inciting these violent liberals!>advocating tolerance and diversity is bad for you>'These special snowflakes of outrage are incubated in the totalitarian atmosphere of America’s colleges and universities.'>'They are made by having the New Left doctrines of white guilt, male privilege, black victimhood and female subjugation preached to them endlessly during their education.'you mean history class?
i guess the lesson here is, don't send ur kids to college, 'Murrica.
No. 118308
>>117949half of my family still lives in wisconsin, trying to find ways to maintain their livelihoods after the paper mills shut down and Walker cut funding to the schools and other public services. Every part of my upbringing taught me to fight for workers regardless of ethnicity, which is why I can't stand both parties at this point. Neoliberals found a strategy where they could pay lip service to protecting minorities without creating any real improvement in their living situation, and they wouldn't have bought into it so hard if anybody was offering anything better. Such are the flaws of a two party system.
If anything, the conservatives would've gotten their way a long time ago if they gave up the race baiting. I know plenty of conservative pro-business muslims, asians, and latinos who would've been on board if the republicans weren't so focused on demonizing them.
Workers at the bottom from all parts of the country have to come together to fix this, the only thing that stops them is deliberate efforts by both parties to treat policy creation like an ad campaign, targeting only specific demographics.
No. 118391
>>118344>LOL you don't know me snowflakewell, we know now that you're the type of person to respond to political criticism by assuming your critic is some kind of hysterical, rioting liberal instead of making any attempt to rationalize/refute their commentary
which doesn't make you look
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>>117896Because its legitimate. Surely if you lived in America you would see lots of Trump signs and little to no Hillary signs even in blue states? She lost to Obama(Obama had lots of signage around when he won), no one gave a damn but suddenly everyone's pants are all pissy since she lost to a white male.
And the thing about these protests are they are not legitimate. They're paid shills. Check out O'Keefes videos on DNC members hiring homeless and mentally ill people to stir up shit.
I mean how funny is it that everyone used the same printing company across many states to get same PRINTED signs to protest? Who even spends that kind of money on a protest when they're not even working and somehow busy protesting during working hours?
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JUST FOUND THESE IN MY COLLEGE I'M LITERALLY SHAKING RIGHT NOW FEARING FOR MY LIFE FUCK WHITE RACISTS
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>>119281rofl the left one reminds me of pic related
No. 119289
>>119281I'm sure it's very
problematic for you, SJW-chan
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>>119290I can't really tell these days tbh
No. 119296
>>119281Lmao
I've actually seen this exact type of failure drawn on my school, my old apartment building, and a fraternity house wall
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Good to see all the neo-libcunts who initially blamed third party voters for Clinton's defeat finally stopped posting that embarrassing shit and actually deleted the older posts they made about such nonsense to not look like idiots later.
Only realized that started happening when I tried to show one of my friends (who is a Trump supporter but wasn't in anyone's face about it) this meltdown some e-famous bitch had on me when I told her that her 'us v/ them' mentality wasn't right and that the only people "responsible" for the Trump win were his voters and non-voters. I couldn't find it anywhere in my post history and nowhere on her page despite her other political rants remaining up. She must've realized what an uneducated, undemocratic tard she sounded like and shut it down before too many people saw it.
No. 119956
>>119897Agreed.
#imstillwithher #fuckhate #rainbownation
No. 119984
>>119956non sequitur much?
it's really bizarre how conservatives think that just because someone points out the logical fallacies in their arguments that
obviously they're a supporter of the reptile-woman and, in tomi's own words, 'a bleeding heart liberal' kek
you don't need a political affiliation to recognize a spoon-fed idiot when you see one.