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No. 4374

It feels nice to know we’re not alone.

No. 4375

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No. 4380

Why is literally every thread on this board about men?

No. 4381

>>4380
Because there's already a board for general girly stuff. So the stuff that gets posted here is going to be the misandry stuff that can't fit anywhere else, while actual female-related topics get stuck on /g/. You're always welcome to start a new thread if you want to talk about something different, nonna.

No. 4401

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No. 4441

>>4401
That ended beautifully.

No. 4482

>>4380
>why is the gender critical board talking about men
nonnie pls

No. 5498

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This morning I checked the wikipedia article of Dianic Wicca (a Modern Pagan, goddess tradition, focused on female experience and empowerment), then I clicked on Zsuzsanna Budapest's, the founder of the religion, and she is based.

No. 5518

>>5498
Well, you lead me to the Wikipedia page, and it turns out I bought a necklace with their symbol on it while I was on vacation. Must be fate kek.

No. 5521

>>5498
>who finances them
well I know and am willing to accept the reality

No. 5722

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>>5498
i want to join a feminist club and a coven

No. 5727

>>5498
isn't she like a Nazi who said Jews brought patriarchy to the world

No. 5735

>>5727
What the actual fuck, no, but I do wonder who are you confusing her with kek

No. 5745

>>5727
>>5735
she's not a Nazi(that's an accusation made against her) but she has made comments here and there that have been considered anti-semitic, mostly against the Abrahamic faiths, but its not unture that on radfem spaces you'll find some pagan feminist types that can have varying degrees anti-semitic views

No. 5750

>>5745
Ayrt, I wouldn't consider that being vocally against Abrahamic faiths is antisemitic, most of their believers aren't of semitic (arab or jewish) descent, if we're having in mind the common use of the word ''antisemitism':the hatred of jewish people (although semites are a much bigger ethnic group).
>but its not unture that on radfem spaces you'll find some pagan feminist types that can have varying degrees anti-semitic views
That makes some sense, I'm against zionism myself.

No. 5755

>>5750
I mean why though ? I'm not Jewish but I think Jews have a right to live in their own land if they want to, plus I couldn't give a shit that about some arab shithead misogynists feeling bad about it

No. 5758

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>>5755
Because it's not their land, simple as. Why isn't anyone giving''their own land'' to the gypsies? Is any occidental country invading a piece of India or Pakistan for them? No, because gypsies don't hold any power or influence. Besides, Ashkenazi jews don't even come from Israel, they are of slavic ancestry, and they are the ruling class in Israel that step on sephardis and ethiopians. And jews are as much misogynistic as muslims, not all jews are follow the secular tradition.

No. 5763

>>5758
>About 44.9% percent of Israel's Jewish population identify as either Mizrahi or Sephardi
So majority of jewish people in Israel are of MENA descent and the fact is Israel has existed as a state for 80 years now, it's people can't just leave, why is it so wrong that a people who have been persecuted everywhere in the world by Muslims and Christians can't have just a small state of their own, there are over 15 Arab Muslim nations in the world, is it so wrong for a single jewish nation to exist

No. 5764

>>5763
>So majority of jewish people in Israel are of MENA
That doesn't mean they're the ruling class. Many countries in South America have an larger population with complete indigenous or african ancestry, but everyone knows that the ruling classes are mostly the descendents of Europeans or mixed. The fact that there's a significant amount of population of that ethnicity doesn't give them power. Just like 50% of the population of any country is made by women and yet we hold much less rights and safety than men. Ashkenazi jews are the ruling class of Israel, that's a fact.
>he fact is Israel has existed as a state for 80 years now
So what? Time doesn't entitle anyone to occupy land and kill innocent people. Monarchies and dictatorships have lasted centuries and decades, that doesn't make them any more legitimate.
>it's people can't just leave
Then don't leave, just live in Palestine, much easier than going back to Europe, America or Northern Africa countries, right?
>why is it so wrong that a people who have been persecuted everywhere in the world by Muslims and Christians can't have just a small state of their own
Because that land wasn't theirs, it belonged for many centuries to people the Israeli army has killed and massacred. It's not very feminist of you to claim
>I couldn't give a shit that about some arab shithead misogynists feeling bad about it
while ignoring the existence of Palestinian women and girls. I don't give a single shit about jewish men because I know how their communities treat women, like slaves.
>there are over 15 Arab Muslim nations in the world, is it so wrong for a single jewish nation to exist
Give them a piece of your own country then, so they can build their ethnostate there, caste system included. Unless there's oil in there I don't think they will accept.

No. 5769

>>5763
44.9% isn't a majority, but also, people were already living there. Before a bunch of western powers decided to create Israel, the land was already occupied by the Palestinian people. If your great great great grandfather lived in a house way back, that wouldn't make it okay for you to move yourself in by killing the family that currently lives there. Women and girls suffer most from these wars and occupations, not the shithead misogynists, and Palestinian women and girls matter just as much as any of us. The answer was never to sanction Israel to genocide the current inhabitants of whatever land they wanted, it was to fight against antisemitism so that Jews would be safe to live even in countries where they're a minority, but that was seen as a lot harder for western powers to accept than just telling them to go make a theocratic ethnostate on someone else's land.

No. 6469

>>5755
Did you forget that Arab women also live there? Like it or not, women are also affected by things like these.

No. 13835

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she is so based

No. 13837

>>13835
based but you have to spoiler this

No. 13881

>>6469
I'm Middle Eastern but I think this whole thing is retarded. I've interacted with Jews before and all of them told me they believed Jews taking their land back was pointless, no Jewish person actually cares about this mess or hates Muslims but racist white people love to shit on both sides using this topic.
I wish middle eastern people could live happily, our people don't hate each other like the media portrays.

No. 13882

>>13881
Samefag to add on, all Jewish men I've spoken to hated Christians although they were indifferent towards Muslims. That's why I don't know why white Christians try to hold sides in this argument, both Muslims and Jews don't want anyone to interfere and for Christians to support Jews as if they didn't genocide them and still discriminate against them is definitely weird. You can't expect a Jewish person to be happy you're supporting them when your ancestors killed millions of Jews.

No. 13924

>>13881
NTA but were those people you talked to from Israel? Because I've heard Jewish people who live elsewhere don't agree with the treatment of Palestinians and don't hate them either. Obviously Jewish people aren't a hivemind so those from Israel may have different views in general. I've certainly read news and watched videos of Jewish men in Israel treating Muslim women in a horrible way. Though I wouldn't doubt there's like an ethnonationalist sentiment there that some Jews subscribe to and others don't, similar to many other countries.
Just curious, not trying to argue.

No. 13943

>>13924
They were living in America, though I've heard some Israeli Jewish religion men speak up about a recent mosque shooting whilst no one else spoke up about it.
I think the clash between jews and muslims is similar to Ukraine and Russia, I doubt Russians or Ukrainians hate one another as individuals but media likes to portray them as hardcore enemies to further add fuel to the fire.
It's also worth noting that I live in a Muslim country YET most people in my country support Israel because of other political reasons surrounding our relationship with Palestine, things aren't as black and white as others think. I obviously don't think it's ethical to hold sides in a literal war and I'd like to add that seeing a jew person die makes me as sad as seeing a muslim person die, just because someone's government makes choices I disagree with doesn't mean I lose the ability to empathize with them as people.

The thint is I just get really mad when I see some random Christian act like this is a football match and they're cheering for their team. People are dying, holding sides isn't as easy when the dying people remind you of yourself and your family, share your culture and features.

No. 13944

>>13943
Samefagging again to add something I just remembered.
We had a very big earthquake two Muslim countries recently and Israel sent financial aid to both. It really isn't that simple and Israeli Jews don't just hate all Muslims even though that's what some like to tell themselves. You guys should remember that Muslims weren't the ones that genocided millions of Jews.

No. 14110

>>13944
Doesn't Israel not let black African Jews immigrate?

No. 14192

>>5758
>Ashkenazi jews don't even come from Israel, they are of slavic ancestry
They're the result of a group of middle eastern Jews moving to Europe and mixing with Europeans over the centuries, not just a group of slavs who decided to convert one day


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