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No. 288

Female Dating Strategy is a subreddit which was created in February 2019 as part of the larger arising of pp’d subreddits (such as r/vindicta, r/pinkpilledfeminism, r/trufemcels, etc.)

Female Dating Strategy is a female-only subreddit that was created in the interest of helping women to achieve their goals in dating, whether that be LTR, marriage or just FWB. It is centred entirely around maximising female benefit and minimising costs/risk. More saliently, due to its policy of being aggressively pro-female, FDS promotes a very unforgiving and cutthroat approach to interactions with males. In many respects, it is a response to the presence of the ‘manosphere’ and in particular TRP.

Important links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/wiki/ideology Ideology of FDS
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/dugj5t/fds_guide_nonmainstream_opinions_and_strategies/ Non-mainstream opinions and strategies held by the sub
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/deoi18/psa_femaledatingstrategy_doesnt_believe_in_asking/ PSA on asking men out
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/d22vzv/given_that_the_risks_of_sex_are_way_higher_and/ why sex shouldn’t be had easily
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/dblfg2/mythology_break_down_1_men_telling_you_youll_max/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf debunking the wall
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/dfeq1s/various_hacks_will_encourage_you_to_not_get/ on why career > dating for most women
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/e7m5m4/the_most_important_fds_message_you_are_not/ women are not responsible for male depravity
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/wiki/recommended_reading other links

No. 289

I feel this might fit better in /g/

No. 294

>It has been proven time and time again that asking men for their number, asking them out on dates, initiating texts with them, traveling to meet them instead of them coming to you, and splitting the bill – they don't work if you want a relationship with a man who's crazy about you, provides, and is proud to have you as their girlfriend.

Amen to this. Don't chase men, ladies. If there's one thing in current dating that really peeves me, it's this. Some women think they're being empowering by overperforming when all they're doing is attracting low-effort males who will only see these actions not as a signal of ambition, but of useful idiocy. They get the boost of ego without having to risk rejection because the woman is doing all the legwork. Don't give them this power over yourselves, you're making it too easy for them to use you.

No. 300

>>289
I agree, it's more of a /g/ topic.

No. 303

>>300
If the topic is pinkpilled/GC, putting it on /g/ means some whiny handmaidens will show up to cry about how they love penis or whatever, won't it?

No. 304

I wonder how well this strategy would work in Scandinavian countries. Where I live it's not as many who think men should pay for dates - especially not more than the first one. It's considered old-fashioned and gold digger-ish. Is it more of a norm in the US?

No. 308

>>303
its literally called Female ""Dating"" Strategy

No. 310

>>304
same with my country, while some of the strategies might apply its clear somethings can't really translate to the culture we have here

No. 314

>>303
This, the strategy is specifically for pinkpilled straight women, since most dating advice given to women is male-centred. Pick-mes would simply derail it.

>>308
Its ideology is radfem-adjacent and many of the mods/posters come from r/GC

No. 316

>>288
How can I tell if a man is into me but trying to hide it because it would be inappropriate, due to the fact that we live or work together?

No. 317

I found out about /fds/ in the reddit cringe thread and after browsing the sub for the last couple of days I don't understand why it got called cringy by several anons.
My relationship of 11 months just ended through mutual ghosting and I don't feel like dating at the moment but I plan to follow some fds advice if I start pursuing relationships again.

No. 320

"While we believe in having your own career and making your own money, a man still has to add financial value to your life and make you feel like he can take care of you. This means not splitting the bill and not dating financially challenged men."

This is not radical.

No. 321

>>319
yes tbh unhide the board and just ban the scrotes same as before

No. 322

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>>317
I’ve been browsing /FDS/ semi-regularly since around November. There are definitely some cringy aspects of the subreddit, namely certain posters and the ‘yas Queen’ twitter bullshit. Most of the ire generated by FDS I think proceeds from the fact that males have a vested interest in keeping women’s standards and self esteem low, so that they can remain competitive. The male sexual imperative involves copulating with as many fertile high value women, for the absolute lowest investment as possible. Since FDS advocates in gatekeeping access to sex until a certain degree of male investment is procured (a measure of self preservation since it’s meant to ensure you don’t get p ‘n’ d), the FDS philosophy is antagonistic towards the fulfilment of that sexual imperative. The very same people (particularly males) who whine about FDS will handwave the existence of TRP, despite it essentially being the male equivalent and just as Machiavellian.

No. 327

>>320
It is nowadays

No. 353

>>322
Agreed. Men are so desperate to convince women that the lowest of standards are unreasonable.
One time I told a group of male acquaintances that I wanted a partner that took care of himself, had common interests with me, showed me respect and didn't expect me to act like his mother and they acted like I had shot all of their pets in front of them.
FDS is just taking men at their word when they say who they are.

No. 354

>>322
>Most of the ire generated by FDS I think proceeds from the fact that males have a vested interest in keeping women’s standards and self esteem low, so that they can remain competitive.
Yeah, FDS is nowhere as vitriolic as its male counterparts like the redpill or mgtow yet it's being branded as being "just as bad" by a lot of people.

No. 380

>>354
What really bothers me about FDS and trufemcels and even the pinkpill sub is that a lot of the users are literally teenage girls who genuinely believe that they're doomed to a life of misery because their crush ignores them. I'm not trying to invalidate them because school was hell for me too but how can you seriously call yourself a femcel at 19 years old? These subs are just so juvenile to me. They're not as violently unhinged as the male counterparts but its just very cringe.

No. 381

>>322
>males have a vested interest in keeping women’s standards and self esteem low

Truth. And patriarchy is an unnatural affair that enables subpar men to spread their genes. The world would look very different if women were not oppressed and discriminated against, had good self-confidence, as we would only pick the most suitable and good men. We can still remember our value and only choose the men that lives up to our standards.

Still wondering how much luck FDS anons have with making men pay for everything though. That seems to be one of the most important rules of that sub.

No. 388

>>353
It's nowhere as prominently exhibited as with the bullshit discourse of "women's romance novels create unrealistic expectations just as porn does for men so it's equally harmful!". Expecting your partner to be attentive, caring and well-behaved is apparently the same as expecting them to be consenting to anal sex, ass to mouth and having gravity-defying large tits with a shaved, bleached innie vagina. Requiring the bare fucking minimum is considered too much for women.

No. 391

>>388
Thats so funny to me because usually the male protagonists in romance novels are straight up rapists or apathetic assholes. The 50 shades boom produces many novels with abusive males leads and almost all classics from like the 70s are also problematic as fuck. Scrotes are sperging about shit they have no clue about as always.

No. 395

>>381
>The world would look very different if women were not oppressed and discriminated against, had good self-confidence, as we would only pick the most suitable and good men
Definitely. The other part of their strategy is to ensure women are DESPERATE to be married and have children before a certain age. Men use scare and shame tactics incessantly against women who dare not to do either or wait until they are older, because a woman who refuses to play the game is a direct threat to male interests. The combination of low standards/self esteem + a time limit for when we are 'good enough' to find a partner ensures scrots get to marry women who are much younger and better looking than them. Then they treat their wives like garbage with no consequences, because men also revile single mothers to give them incentive to stay with shitty men no matter what.

Women have to become comfortable with the idea of being alone if we're ever going to change male behaviour for the better and keep ourselves safe.

No. 403

>>380
This is why I left r/vindicta and the related discord. Several of the members there are very young and have a laundry list of surgeries to get. While they may be average, it really can't be healthy to keep making morphs of yourself with only the tiniest of changes.

No. 435

>>294
I completely disagree with this. I did all of this at the beginning of my relationship with my husband. We've been together for 6 years, and he financially provides for me while I'm in school (including the cost of school).

No. 442

>>435
In what respect did you ‘chase’ him? Because not chasing a man doesn’t mean not initiating conversations, but rather ensuring that you don’t ask him out on dates or actively court a man who clearly lacks interest.

No. 458

>>316
If it's inappropriate and he's trying to hide it, don't chase him, anon. Have dignity and don't shit where you eat.
>>353
You all gotta stop talking to online weirdos (I mean we are too, but women aren't degenerates like moids) and talk to some normies with core values who understand that women also want to be attracted to their partner. If you have to date men, find one who plays sports and at least has a nice body and understands teamwork.

No. 463

>1.Be a high value woman.

Everywhere we go, we are treated like fucking objects. Ffs, stop it. Women don't have a value, we aren't related to the Stock Market in any way. We are human, thanks.

>She has her own career, hobbies, and a great social life that fulfills her emotional needs.


"you have to be the perfect, flawless bussiness woman to start dating correctly"

Yikes. I understand some of the points they are trying to come across but the phrasing is wonky. I know it's trying to tell women to develop themselves without focusing on males, but at the same time it can be read as "be perfect or no quality man will look at you twice".

I'm going to tell you a secret, anons. Don't date. At all. Why suffer through all of this when you can just forget about dating and, as the first rule says, focus on your life?? Men are all the same, if you don't like their general behaviour (male socialization) you won't like any of them. There's no special-snowflake-prince-charming waiting for you out there, and sure as hell there's no (rad)feminist man who will understand you. The sooner you understand this, the better.

No. 473

>>381
Never been on FDS but I've never had trouble with it.
Works best if you act willing to pay/split and then they'll insist on paying for you.
At least that's how it's always been with me when I dated.

No. 488

>>463
i need romantic love anon…

No. 492

>>488
Yeah, it's unreasonable to expect all straight women to give up on romantic love. I still help my het friends with their love lives even if I fucking hate men with every fibre of my being because I want them to be happy

No. 513

>>288
>>458
He’s extremely hot, and I think he may want to at least fuck me. He acts awkward around me, sometimes finds lame excuses to talk to me, but always keeps it 100% flirt free. I won’t be living/working here forever and I really just want to fuck him, but I’m so shy and awkward around moids when they’re actually fuckable, as I’m used to settling for ugly betas due to ripping insecurity.

No. 514

How do I entice a man into being my fuckbuddy without being desperate and chasing him?

No. 528

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I have a problem with FDS because they all seem to chase the same type of man. For me, a high value man is emotionally stable, caring, patient, not hypersexual (ideally a virgin), good looking, youthful somewhat feminie, loyal, etc. I wouldn't want a guy who pays for anything and is a provider or an "alpha" male. I'm curious if any anons feel the same?

No. 554

>>528
isn't this manga shotacon? what are you trying to imply here???

No. 555

>>554
I got that pic from some imageboard. I am into guys who are the same age as me (mid 20s).

No. 556

>>554
nta but I thought the author clarified that it wasn't shotacon…I haven't read it myself so I don't know

No. 558

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>>556
I read it some time ago, but I remember being kind of uncomfortable with how the relationship between the 30 year old woman and the (14-15?) boy was developed. Like, the woman couldn't restrain herself from being attracted to him, so she ghosted the kid for years. Eh… Reminds me of some lolicon mangas where the teacher is OBVIOUSLY ATTRACTED to the 6 year old kid but he tries not to give in to his fantasies (yuck)…

Sorry for derailing.

No. 570

>>558
There's actually been a couple timeskips and the kid is in high school now. She's never really admitted she loved him, but he confessed to her in a way. Still a chance he'll end up with a classmate.

No. 573

>>554
>>555
>>558
>>570
can you shut the fuck up

No. 575

>>573
This is what happens when you try to discuss dating on an imageboard, someone derails with underage manga shit instead.

No. 579

>>528
This, a high value man to me is empathetic and virginal as well.

But I also think the philosophy behind FDS is that no naturally kind males exist so seeking these sorts out is pointless, and that only money and looks can be the benefits of engaging with men.

No. 688

>>528
all I want is just a young cute virgin boy who doesn't watch porn :(

No. 691

>>688
you sound pedo

No. 721

I hope it's ok to ask for dating advice here, since it's FDS-centric.

I've been in a relationship with this guy for a few years. He's a gentle nerd type. However, I make $10k a year (student) and he makes $200k with $100k in savings. He insists on splitting the bill every time. He even keeps track of minor expenses from over a year ago, and the value of gifts - only brought it up once, but it made me feel awful.

How should I handle this? He grew up very poor, and hates spending money on himself, so I feel bad trying to force him.

No. 748

>>721
Holy shit, dump him. I don't think bill splitting is the worst thing in the world later in a relationship and I think frugality is usually a good trait, but the disparity in income is too much to justify it. What a fucking scrooge.

No. 781

>>721
Keeping track of the value of gifts sounds like a controlling fucking nightmare. Gifts are gifts. There's no obligation put on someone for accepting them and there isn't a scale you have to balance.

This seems like a pretty big red flag.

No. 814

>>721
He isn't a poor boy anymore. He makes so much more money than you. Talk to him about it.

No. 835

What I don't like about /FDS/ is the gold digger mentality. I don't have a problem with gold digging, that's the traditional normal role for a woman.

However some women forget that an "alpha" man who provides also means control. These birds chasing old rich dick often end up used for a Chanel bag. That's pathetic. They're so delusional thinking they will finesse old experienced men lol.
Not to mention that these strategies don't work for ugly women. The "man must provide" mentally often implies that a woman's value is first and foremost her body.

The reality is: best couples are those where the two partners are equal (looks, status, age).

No. 850

>>835
it's just sugar baby rhetoric with a little more misandry sprinkled in.

No. 860

>>835
I've literally never seen FDS say that women should be going after rich old farts or that women should be completely financially dependent on men. The point of having the man pay for dates and financially provide is because it weeds out the men who aren't willing to invest anything into a stable relationship. It makes sense in that context. Do you honestly believe the man who buys you a McChicken and expects to fuck on the first date is more willing to invest in a relationship than the man who actually puts in effort to impress you?

No. 877

>>835
Actually I don't see too much of that on there. Its mainly taking care of yourself and building yourself up. Not looking for a man who will provide for you all the way.
Looking for man to pay for your date is not the same thing.

No. 883

>>835
The problem with gold digging is not having your own money and therefore relying on a man for it. Another problem is lowering your standards in other areas in order to prioritize money. It's not the same as expecting a man to invest financially in you to prove he's actually interested and not just trying to get the easiest fuck possible out of your interactions, and I've never seen FDS encourage women to date or 'finesse' old men, the opposite is more common.

I can understand finding it uncomfortable. I've always liked to pay for myself for a few reasons… so he doesn't think I owe him anything, so he knows I'm not poor, and yes, in a pickme-esque fashion I didn't want to be seen as a gold digger. I just genuinely don't need a guy's money so it felt like selling myself short if I acted like I did, as if we aren't equal even in finances. But men have pretty much forced our hand, if we could assume they weren't trying to get low effort sex out of every date, if we could be equal without them taking advantage at every opportunity, we wouldn't need to vet them like this.

No. 899

>>850
Exactly!!!

>>860
On reddit they're all obsess with providing and I've seen typical Sugar bb tweets like "dating young men is like an unpaid internship"….It's also very common in women's forums.

A rich guy taking you to fancy restaurants and buying you a bag, isn't doing more effort than the poor guy buying you McDonalds. Providing isn't a sign of respect or commitment. Young women are easily impress with money and they should not.

It's just about common sense. Of course, someone really interested in you will do efforts. Of course you should care about yourself first, especially when you're young.
Idk too much "YAASSS QUEEN" shit in FDS and when you see the posters history, you see women that have dated drug dealers or else. I mean…

No. 901

This woman's videos were recommended in the FDS sub. Sure, she might have some good tips (I have only watched some of it) but I can't get over this adult woman says "sprinkle sprinkle" and talking about being "too pretty to work". Well, what happens when you get older? What if your rich husband decides he wants a younger woman to show off?

FDS has a good message about avoiding fuckboys and being confident but this shit is promoting oldfashioned gold digging.

No. 902

>>901
I hope this doesn't come across of as racebait but there seems to be a disportionately large amount of black women that are into FDS

No. 911

>>901
Shera is a whole ass mess as well. She is the worst person to take advice from, most of the good takes she has are common sense or regurgitated. Not to mention she didn't exactly follow her own advice. Waiting 7 years for some older man to divorce his wife while your in your 20s doesn't seem like a good goal at all, but that's what she did before promptly pushing out his babies. She's no boss or anything to aspire to, yet people flock to her. She just genuinely seems lazy, so that's why I guess she thinks being a housewife for some sloppy seconds is cute.

No. 916

>>899
>A rich guy taking you to fancy restaurants and buying you a bag, isn't doing more effort than the poor guy buying you McDonalds. Providing isn't a sign of respect or commitment.
Lol you're incredibly naive if you think a broke man with no ambition is just as capable of a committed relationship than someone who has his shit together at least. My mom works two jobs and her ex bf literally called her a gold digger because she told him to get a fucking job while he was living with her and not paying any rent. The fuck…

No. 920

>>916
I didn’t say that. What I said is that for a rich man, buying you a bag isn’t much and doesn’t mean shit. Some of these men have bitches in every city and a whole hidden family.

I don’t say that dating a fucking bum is better. The two partners should have the same vision of life and equivalent status.

No. 924

>>899
I agree with your point. How can you be 18yo and expect men your age to provide for you?
They're telling those women to seek mid to late 20s men at best if they wanna be provided for.

No. 937

>>901
>>911
Why would you post this here? no sense of coding jfc
>>902
No there isn't, It's just common with girls in the sugaring community

No. 2238

>>916
This I grew up with my mom doing th cleaning and working two physical jobs whilst her lard ass potato husband called me fat.

LVM are the worst

No. 2416

>>380
>literally teenage girls
>juvenile
Well, yes, but no need to be bitter about it. I skimmed through this thread and that board, and none of this talk has anything to do with my life as a middle aged woman. But us older people have no need for such things, we know what we want and how to get it (spoiler alert: It's different for everybody). It's natural that the younger someone is, the more they'll be drawn towards stuff like this as part of their learning experience and experimentation.

That's not "cringy", just common sense.

No. 2722


No. 2724

>>2722
Who cares. Men deserve it if they’re going to be shallow and superficial and to have their own idiotic standards. Perhaps they should try and bring genuine depth to a relationship

No. 2729

>>2724
This isn't about men's feelings or whatever, this is about how these 666 rule are almost set up to fail, the perecentage of men who are well off, are over 6 feet and are endowed must be rarer then 5% of the US and the chances are is those guys will already be married to some other well off woman

No. 2738

>>2729
So what if one women has higher standards than average? You're just assuming that she doesn't have anything to offer herself. Hot girls can afford to have high standards.

Why are men allowed to go for women way above their league but said woman is shallow if she won't settle for his broke, ugly fatass?
If incels want to use that to fuel their defeatist mindset that's their fucking problem. They're going to cry either way.

No. 2741

>>2722
I knew I had seen this phrase on /r9k/ before
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/search/text/666%20figures/
I cant find an instance of it before the first posts date on there so they probably literally invented it as a misogynist meme

No. 2768

>>2738
I’m sick of anons coming here like ~we’re just proving the incels right, we’re just as bad as them uwu~
Women who are highly attractive and accomplished really should have high standards. It’s not unusual for a man to have standards that surpass their own assets, the incels are very guilty of this.
I personally use FTS as a way to get a partner who is equal to myself. Insecurity has lead me to date guys who are far lesser than myself, thinking they’d appreciate and be nice to me, but I ended up being abused, and I left the relationship as a diminished person. I want a man who is good in bed, not ugly, not badly groomed and a good conversationalist, ambitious and creative. All of those are assets I know I have to offer myself. I deserve to expect a man that matches me in quality and status, and I’d rather be alone than settle for less. If men and handmaidens want to cry about it then tough shit.

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>>2722
I was thinking about creating thread on /snow/ based on incels forum (much like the fun r/incels threads we had few years ago), so I've been "researching" and the standards they all have simply floored me. Out of around 200 active users, there are maybe a couple willing to "settle" for their "looksmatch" (of course, only if she is a young white virgin). There are literally only two users who'd be willing to date a non-virgin woman around their age who is just as (un)attractive as them. Two out of two hundred have somewhat realistic/reasonable standards. And yet, I don't see anyone making fun of that. Those men are the lowest value males you can think of - NEETs, horrible hygienie, extremely unattractive, they often have BPD/NPD, they are almost all pedos (as in, literal pedos - they want to date 11yos), violent, lazy, etc. And all of them have sky high standards.
Just think about those men every time you get angry at attractive women who want o date attractive men.

No. 2790

>>2768
I have high standards but they don't come in the form of a set height, salary and dick size. To me she sounds like scrotes saying they will only be in a relationship with a woman who has D cups minimum. It's not having a preference for taller men, bigger dicks and large wallets that's weird, it's autistically fixing a minimum size and making it such a priority.

A man, no matter how attractive, smart and rich he is would immediately looks pathetic to me if he had a minimal bra size as a primary criteria when looking for a relationship.

No. 2792

>>2790
I mean I agree to a certain extent, it just doesn’t bother me. I don’t have a set menu for what’s attractive, like being 6 ft with a 6 inch would make a man seem more attractive im not gonna lie, but I’d be far more attracted to a guy 5’8 with a smaller dick if I got along well with him, found him interesting and funny and he pleased me in bed, similar interests and values etc.
I don’t want a prize, the way some of these people do, I want a companion. I say 5’8 cos I’m fairly tall for a woman, I’m just barely shorter than that.

No. 2880

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Well let me tell you ladies something: Ever since applying the FDS lens to dating, it's been very eye-opening. I'm in so much shock about how much disrespect I used to tolerate and was gaslit into believing was normal.
These men literally have nothing else to offer but the audacity!
Right now I'm relying on online dating (OLD) to meet new men. Can't say I had better luck meeting men through friends as they turned out to be monsters too. But I digress.

Anyway when I finally match with someone who seems compatible, they wind up being such low effort fucks. Because clearly they're spinning so many other women behind our backs. They want to get the most sex for the least effort and maximum convenience. So no offers to have a first date over dinner or something pricey to impress (date cheap, if not for free), attempt to manipulate the woman to take on the emotional load (make her chase, ask questions, and plan the dates), and to set the meetup location at their convenience (the woman is forced to be more invested by spending time and money to meet).

Matched with this dude who wasn't my type looks-wise but appeared to be put together due to his clean and stylish living conditions and hobbies. He reached out but I put him on the backburner for a few days. When I returned the message he wanted to meet up. I asked him what he was proposing. "Drinks," I was thinking sure–cheap. I hate having first dates in loud and crowded places.
I went along with it just to see where it went. Found myself asking the majority of the questions to drag his own date out of him. Pathetic right? If men ask women out they should already have an offer wtf.
When? And where? Saturday, okay. Time? "6pm." I laughed, I told him that's when people have dinner not drinks (he'd rather go cheap than spend for dinner). Instead of offering dinner, he wanted to push back the time. "8pm." Lol, sure dude. Okay, where for drinks? "[The nearest bar to where I live]." He didn't even bother to check where I was driving from to meet him at a venue that's literally 10 minutes from his place. And he didn't care, because his next statement? "Yeah we can get drinks and see where it goes from there. You can come back to my place and watch Netflix."
So basically this dude is expecting sex for less than the cost of a dinner date, with the added perk that I'd get gussied up and drive myself to him just for his dick.
I replied "Very convenient," then he responded "…okay?" Then he must have went back to my profile before I blocked him, because then he followed up with a "Oh you live in X?" Lmao, I guess he thought I'd throw myself at him.

These men are fucking creeps. What I hate most of all is that not even a month ago I would have agreed to this shitfest. Me expending all the effort just for an awkward and subpar fuck at the end of my night who I'd never speak to again.

No. 2881

>>2722
Honestly unless your dating pool is mostly Hispanic guys for whatever reason, it's really not unreasonable to expect a guy to be above 5'10"
I hate that manlets make it out to be this huge deal.
Tbh the most abusive men Ive known have been manlets. They're insecure as fuck.

I don't think the rest of the 666 rule matters much though, depending on your age. If you're in your early/mid twenties it's more important to know a mans work ethic and his career plans than what his current salary is.

No. 2882

>>2780
There is already one

No. 2885

>>2882
link?

No. 2897

I prefer short men. I’m a sexually dominant woman and I’m just more attracted to men who are shorter than me. 5’5”-5’7” is ideal. Literally every single time this has come up around a man, he’s immediately started trying to convince me that I’m mistaken, and that I ACTUALLY prefer tall men. It doesn’t matter whether the guy in question is tall or short. They immediately get really defensive and weird. Is it just the idea that women might have varied and unpredictable preferences? It’s really obnoxious.

No. 2900

>>2897
No one cares if you like short men. Not the thread for it.

No. 2904

>>2900
I think she's just saying that a "high quality male" isn't the same for everyone, which is one of the biggest issues with this imo. It's come up here a few times already.

No. 3062

Anyone else noticing an uptick in men expecting women to drive out to them?
Twice now through dating apps, I've had to turn down men who expect me to drive out where they live in order to have a dinner date or drink that they invited me on! They know where I live too so it's not like they mistook me for local. Also it's not like I wouldn't be weirded out if they offered to pick me up but they don't even bother with that anymore.

Good grief they just want convenience and sex on demand. I'm sure some women actually take them up on this too.

No. 3088

For anyone into FDS, I highly recommend The Rules Revisited blog. It's not very well-known but it's one of the greatest female dating blogs I've ever read. Better than the actual "Rules" book.
I recommend reading the Important Posts in the sidebar first; the other posts are just building on those ones.

>>2880
Good for you anon. As soon as a guy gives me a lame response (short, no question to follow up) I unmatch them. If he was really interested, he would at least put in some effort

No. 3091

>>3088
This blog is written by a man, it's redpill garbage. Pass.

No. 3092

>>3062
So they want a free escort. Garbage men.

No. 3093

>>3091
>cut off low effort men
>don't initiate contact with men you are interested in
>have strong personal boundaries
It's literally saying the same things as FDS. Sounds like you didn't bother reading.

No. 3132

>>3062
Desperate women allowed this to happen

When I was still dating (a year ago) most of it involved
>Only being able to see them if you drove
>Dates involved you paying for shit or just having sex and leaving, after a few dates all you would be to him is to come over at 12 pm, give him a blowjob and have shitty sex and leave
>No affection, no compliments, no cuddling, no kissing and if there was it was gross/an excuse for him to judge your body

That's it. That's literally it. I was so used to being abused by men my boyfriend was getting a culture shock, I would cry anytime he cuddled me because I simply never got that before and he seemed so sad because I just assumed he wanted to have sex with me and had me leave. I wouldn't allow him to take off my clothes because most of the time when a man took my clothes off all I got was insulted, I was so use to being cold it hurt my current bf when we first started dating because I have a really fucked up idea of what relationships are.

No. 3135

>>3093
>don't bother getting a degree because men only care about looks

FDS is about having the power to choose, not being some scrote's traditional wife. Respect yourself more.

No. 3148

>>3062
I don’t drive and I live in a suburban area and dating was difficult for me. Guys hated that I couldn’t drive to their places for hookups and dates.

No. 3151

>>3148
Men get handed everything in dating nowadays
Unless you're willing to be a mommy sex slave to every man that asks you're fucked

No. 3234

>>3151
Nah you're fucked if you accept being treated like a free escort, better to stay single. If men get desperate maybe they'll start to make effort with women.

No. 3244

>>3234
>If men get desperate maybe they'll start to make effort with women.
But how do we get rid of pickmes who allow this to happen? Men will get what they can get while putting in the lowest amount of effort possible, as long as if there is okay looking women willing to give themselves to low effort and bottom tier men, then men won't ever improve and the only people to reproduce is desperate pickmes who are going to be horrible influences on their daughters and mentally ill and selfish men who are going to be horrible influences on their sons


I'm honestly scared to see where the world will go, men will continue to deteriorate into greasy blobs who do nothing but cheat, fart, play video games and watch porn all day, women will be the ones who have to work hard on their careers to make money to support men, work out to keep their figure in check, all while doing the cleaning, cooking, child bearing, and so on. Men don't deserve women, mass suicide seems like a liable option at this point

No. 3261

>>3244
Look for the guy who doesn't want a pick-me*

*not a femcel, take my words with a grain of salt

No. 3262

>>3132
No offence anon, but as a survivor of abuse this post reads as porn to me kek someday…

No. 3275

Here's a great way to out filter men, that me and my friends have tried and has been proven accurate

I ask them what thier favorite book is. If it’s Atlas Shrugged, run. If it’s Catcher in the Rye or The Great Gatsby, then its likely he hasn’t read a book since high school. Maybe okay but he’s probably boring. If it’s anything by Margaret Atwood or Toni Morrison he’s lying to get into your pants. Any classic sci-fi or fantasy is acceptable but be very wary of men who are too enthusiastic about sci-fi and fantasy. Biographies are also acceptable but obviously it depends on who it’s about!

Anything by Franzen, Palahniuk, Pynchon or Chabon, run. Vonnegut? I mean, use caution. But generally okay. Dickens? Make sure he’s not lying but Dickens is a win.

Be a little wary if it’s something by a female author. cayse he’s probably lying and trying to just fuck you. Unless it’s Frankenstein, then he’s an adorable weirdo if you're into that, if its Harry Potter then it mean's he’s too young/immature for you.

No. 3276

>>3262
What's that even supposed to mean?
>>3261
That would be lovely if they existed. What men want and what men say they want are two different things, men can talk shit all day about how desperate women who live for male attention are pathetic and unattractive but still fall for whatever pickme manipulates them. Men are practically monkey brained

No. 3281

>>3275
i think you mean to say "literally anything by ayn rand" rather than just atlas shrugged

No. 3282

>>3281
atlas shrugged is her only well known work, even normies know about it

No. 3286

>>3275
What about guys who only read non-fiction? This one guy I know likes to read books about drawing, cooking, gardening, and zoology. I don't think he's read any fiction since high school.

No. 3287

>>3282
not at all, anon. the fountainhead is very, very popular too

No. 3291

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>>3286
>non-fiction
If his favourite book is a fitness related book, then it's likely he has some self loathing issues to some degree, If a guy has a standard genetic exercise advice book then you should be okay but if his favourite book is Sun and Steel, RUN away and never look back. If he has art related books then make sure its works related to art fundamentals and or the old masters and not weeb shit, I don't know much about guys who are into gardening and zoology though

No. 3292

>>3286
Men who only read non-fiction tend to lack imagination and are kinda boring in that normie sort of way. He sounds like he's into self-sufficiency and homesteading. Like how my brother has a lot of books on plants, chickens, and beekeeping.

No. 3295

>>3286
Obviously avoid men who like books about global politics written from a conservative perspective or men who are overly-focused on WWII when it comes to history books.

No. 3297

>>3295
avoid WW2 History buffs, If thier into world history its fine as long its not just WW2, as for philosophy avoid anyone into aristotle, nietzsche, and especially Derrida and Foucault. other philosophy like Stoicism, kant and Hegel is generally okay

No. 3298

>>3275
The guy I like is in love with Russian Literature, especially the Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky. Never read it, don’t know what it’s about. Sounds very male-oriented though.

No. 3300

>>3298
he's most likely a miserable misanthrope disillusioned by humanity

No. 3302

>>3297
>as for philosophy avoid anyone into aristotle, nietzsche
Why? I'm curious

No. 3303

>>3297
Stoicism is a huge red flag, though

No. 3309

>>3302
nta but aristotle is misogynistic

No. 3317

>>3298
Those are actually really well-written books but if you read them then there is a high chance you have depression.

No. 3318

>>3297
Why avoid men who like WWII? And I don’t know who Mishima is. Is he some raging misogynist?

No. 3319

>>3292
Not necessarily bad that he may be boring. Books on plants chickens and beekeeping sound nice. Maybe gardening and cooking too. Idk maybe it's just my vision to be more self sufficient with home keeping and food into the future and if some guy likes that too, it's a win

>>3309
Oh God aristotle being anti woman isn't talked about enough. He considered women being treated well, like fellow human beings, as barbaric. Be cautious with men who praise him

No. 3320

>>3292
>Men who only read non-fiction
That’s most men. They hardly ever read fiction after high school because fiction requires too much empathy, imagination, and a large attention span. The modern male is more lacking in these attributes because they hang around empathy-killing websites like 4chan and their only hobby is playing video games.

No. 3321

>>3318
in my personal experience, the guys into wwii were the kind of people calling you a feminazi for not shaving your legs

No. 3322

>>3319
I don’t know. My brother wants to go live in a cottage one day with a large vegetable garden away from everyone he knows which I think is really boring but I suppose it can be appealing to some people.

No. 3323

>>3300
>>3317
he told me he's read it twice. he then went into great detail of the book's themes like active love and something about God (wasn't really paying attention). it looks like he's really into literature so i think i got myself a catch if he reciprocates because he's the opposite of >>3320

No. 3328

>>3318
Men who are interested in Imperial Japan and Japanese nationalism are the worst sort of weeaboos. They like to engage in Japanese war crime denialism or apologism, think of the Japanese as "honorary Aryans", and praise Japan as a "utopian ethnostate" that knows how to "put women in their place". The alt-right is filled with these types of men who love anime and worship Japan.

No. 3329

>>3328
it's important to remember there's a difference between people who are just ignorant to japanese Imperialism and think that Japan was unfairly nuked and occupied by the US and people who suppport nationalism and Imperial Japan

No. 3334

>>3320
Don't forget about how men watch porn all the time and masturbate at least once a day so when they start something like nofap they get shocked at how productive they become and call it "superpowers". Men truly are a disease.

No. 3340

>>3321
what their reaction is when you remind them women used to not shave back then?

No. 3359

>>3322
Ngl that sounds appealing to me. It's basic, simple and cute

>>3340
not that anon, but I bet they'll be denial. And use the sex scenes in game of thrones as evidence that women were 100% shaven everywhere. Ive witnessed too many guys used GoT as a history lesson

No. 3474

>>3359
>Ive witnessed too many guys used GoT as a history lesson
This sounds too dumb to be true, I don't want to believe it.

No. 3523

>>3275
This is honestly preety fun, What about guys who only read religious history?

No. 3667

>>3321
Most men obsessed with WWII or history won't be able to handle life back then


Calling women gold diggers for paying for dinner, back then they would have to support her financially if they even want to think about a wife
Calling women fat, ugly, out of shape, etc
Most women back then didn't look like porn stars, even Marilyn Monroe would be relentlessly mocked by men nowadays
Women not shaving but most women had bushes and hairy armpits
"Wife bad" jokes were mocked, you HAD to learn to be happy with your wife

No. 3672

>>3667
Just avoid WW2 and Japanese history guys, as well anyone too obsessed with the Romans, but if their in to anything by Will and Ariel Durnat then you've find a keeper, the Durant's give a nuanced portrayal of history and always mention the status of women for every civilization they discuss in that time period

No. 3673


No. 3674

>>3328
I find that guys who are the extreme opposite (like guys who constantly make nuke jokes and classic "they deserved it" comments whenever anything japanese is brought up) are also best to avoid.

No. 3677

>>3673
This makes me so fucking mad. Why are women so accommodating? She's fucking 29 years old and she stays with a bum who rapes her.

No. 3689

>>3673
I'm always suspicious at big posts with no history because it's a throwaway and no comments from the poster.

But really
>For about 3 years I slept on the floor instead so I wouldn't be bothered.
Paid for everything and yet sleeps like a dog. Well no, worse than. Dogs sleep on comfy beds. She's on the damn floor. And shes hesitant on leaving because he doesn't know how to care for himself… Christ.

No. 3713

>>3689
That's the entire point of a throwaway… To make a big post you don't want connected to your other accounts and that's it

No. 3728

Moved to >>>/g/132014.



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