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So, time for another announcement.
This may be long so I'll make a list of the points I will be addressing and you can decide what concerns you.
-Banned cows still being a concern
-New Farmhands and the application
-"Sperg-chan" (our resident Taylor-obsessed spammer) and other invaders, like from /r9k/ etc
-Dramu with old admin (or lack thereof??)
-What you as Farmers can do about the current problems
-Brief summary of some changes being made
Not the 8chan board, though they are also part of the reason for this announcement being made in the first place.
I know that there was a lot of backlash when former admin took down some of the threads and I am 100% behind that decision. However, I also think there's a way we can effectively give everyone a place to post about them without allowing them on main boards. This would be done by creating a few new boards where the banned cows can be discussed, along with a separate set of staff members that would be able to police these offshoots of the community. (Example; a board such as /sh/ for Shuddercows could include all the ana posts that aren't allowed currently. Someone from that part of the community could run the board and appoint staff members appropriately, as long as the main rules of the site are respected)
>Our new staff members
I have appointed a few new staff members since the admin change. One of the janitors from the previous administration was made a mod right from the start and I brought in someone I trust from off-site as a mod to deal with reports from the get go, and some janitors were appointed via the application I created. Some of the new Farmhands started as janitors and were later promoted to mod.
I have a few more applications to read over, and potentially recruit more members. If you plan to apply and would like to come onboard to specifically moderate a certain board, feel free to mention that in your application. The Farmhand application can be found in this thread >>2823
Right now we have a lot of moderation being done by people following the basic schedule of daylight hours in the US. We need more people who are available during the daytime in the UK and EU (which corresponds to night hours in the US)
>Spammers and other evil forces at work
It's pretty clear by now that our site has been invaded recently. Part of this is due to the URL being posted elsewhere. And the reason for the URL being shared, partly was due in part I suspect to Spoony's being banned. I very much would find it believable that she's behind a lot of the /banned cow/ threads on 8chan. In the past she was responsible for the initial /r9k/ incursion. Now we have some other anons who are annoyed by the admin change and have been further making lolcow's presence known to the rest of the Internut.
There aren't a lot of options for combatting this, since robots are plentiful and have too much time on their hands. So we have been issuing bans and deletions. It's not hard to proxy, though, and we are dealing with a plethora of IPs which leaves little to be utilised by our home team.
A few other possibilities are adding a captcha, which has only the >potential< to be effective; a prolonged hellweek; and overall encouragement for more users to make reports
It may not be a good idea to engage any trolls further, but there has been some talk of thirst for milk from the former lolcow staff. The fact is that there is no involvement in the site from the former staff any longer, so whatever speculation is being made has no real chance of being confirmed. I can also testify to the vast level of samefagging being done by the involved parties. Imho any dramu being brought up is the invention of a very minuscule number of people and they are literally milking themselves at this point.
I have also un-stickied former-admin's farewell announcement, as it was making some people salty over the attention he was supposedly recieving from it.
>ways you guys can help improve the site
Ultimately this website doesn't belong to me or any one individual. We are a community and the best way to make changes is for everyone to do their part. Making reports is a big deal. Staff can't constantly monitor every single thread. The more detailed reports will make for better judgement calls.
Also, I am asking for ideas anyone has on how to benefit the site. I've taken into consideration the posts that have already been made. Some of the ideas are met with dissent and it ends up being a matter of trial and error to see what works best. Hellweek and captcha have been brought up a lot and that's the next thing that's going to be implemented. Just keep making suggestions; this thread would be the best place right now. Anywhere in /meta/ is appropriate but suggestions and complaints made on cow threads have the potential to be overlooked.
>stuff in the works
As mentioned in other points within this announcement, I would like to add a few more boards that would accommodate certain people's interest in some of our banned cows (see the banned cows segment I wrote for more details). Some other boards I would like to add are an oekaki board or just a general art board. It would be cool to see some comics drawn of our board-tan as well as potentially some of the cows and/or resident village idiots. It would be cool to get some more drawings done by some of the artists in the tan thread. I want to do a summer-theme for our homepage so if we can get drawings that correlate to that theme we can add them in random circulation at the homepage.
Other "changes" include the concept of creating different styles. I have always used the classic chan style myself, but if there are users who have preferred styles then you can specify which ones you like. I think it would be fun to make some more involved ones that have backgrounds and such, or otherwise different buttons and/or fonts. A kawaii theme and gothic Lolita would be the obvious choices. This idea might be seen as useless to a lot of people but if it interests anyone then I will work on it.
Look out in the near future for another session of Hellweek, because that could begin at any time. Also know that a captcha and possible flood detection filter might be added soon but will most likely be temporary until the influx of idiots is curbed.
former admin lock a bunch of (genuinely shitty) threads. after a day or so of complaints, admin finally acknowledged what many knew - that his heart wasn't in it - and that he'd handed over the site to a new admin. admin's goodbye announcement is at >>>/pt/283531
It's also worth mentioning that Pull is closing shortly (10 days away or something).
I don't care if you allow any of the other banned threads. But that one should stay banned.
This. I don't really want to encourage the manifestation of a board just to discuss "banned cows" because it might not only encourage overflow into other boards but might allow people to think discussion of minors (under 18 or whatever legal limit) is appropriate still. Also making a board just for ana-chans? Hell no. Seems kind of ridic considering that it's so popular. I think condensing it to threads and not a actual board would be better.
Please enforce a new "spammer tagging" system for regulars who still want to participate, haven't broken any rules per se but are like Sperg-chan who are too obsessed about one subject. Like the baiters/self posters and repeat offenders like Spoony or whomever it'll let both the staff and posters know who it is so we can choose to engage or not. Another poster suggested this in the Sperg-chan thread and I think it's a excellent idea.
Stop fucking splitting the site up. We do not have enough users to warrant more than four boards max. We do not have the traffic to keep them busy or interesting.
And if something is banned, then it is banned. You can't have an entire board dedicated to a topic that's supposed to be completely banned. It makes zero sense. You're clearly not behind admin's original decision if you're thinking of a way to get around it.
This is a nice idea. Pretty sure the only person saying not to give spoony attention is spoony at this point. It clearly doesn't make any difference how much attention you give her 'cause she was posting here all day every day.>>3081>>3083>>3084
The problem here is that you guys don't seem to actually understand what samefagging is. It's not making multiple replies in one thread - everyone does that in any thread they read regularly. it's replying to yourself whilst pretending to be someone else to cause an "Argument"
Spamming =/= samefagging.
Agreed with this once again.
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um i would like to build a community of forced memes and sketches of pixyteri thanks
do not let the ana-chans back. i don't really get why the other cows were banned, but the ana threads need to stay gone.
an art board is a neat idea, but i think >>3087
make valid points. maybe more art threads should just be encouraged in /b/ first, and if there is an overwhelming response to those, then a separate art board can be considered.
i think new banners should supersede new styles in terms of priority.
also, as for stuff in the works, i think /pt/ and /snow/ need to be re-evaluated. i think all new cows should be posted in /snow/ but once a lolcow reaches /pt/ tier, the thread stays there. some of the classic /pt/ lolcows need to be moved back to /pt/. it just doesn't make sense for them to be with the minor drama-cows of /snow/.
I agree 100 percent>>3093
This too, while an oekaki board is neat and all lolcow isn't about that and there's sooo many other sites you can use for it.
Not to mention, there's going to be a huge influx of PULLtards here since it's shutting down and it's already starting to show…
These boards aren't even active on 8chan, imo there's no reason to bring them back when people aren't even that interested
Too many boards will fragment the community. Shuddercows as a containment board would become cancer central anyway. I don't care for any of the banned cows or find them interesting. But if the only alternative is to make a shuddercow board then you might as well unban the banned cows and let people make threads again.
I'm not too keen on the ana chans though. Aly maybe. But they DO NOT deserve a containment board. I think an ana chan central thread is fine.
We need more hell week and increased moderation to keep the cancer out.The problem wasn't the subjects of those threads. It was some of the people posting in them.
Admin, I am generally against new board creation at this point in time. It just dilutes the current audience.
I second the farmer who suggested we try to support drawing threads on /b/ before creating an entire board for it. If /b/ becomes entirely overwhelmed with active, diverse draw threads to the point that other conversations are being drowned out I think that's the time a discussion about a new board would be beneficial.
I also don't see the point in adding a new board to discuss banned cows. Please consider reviewing the bans; if you think there is a good audience for these cows on the site, please unban them and move discussion of them to /pt/ or /snow/. If you don't think discussion of them is good enough for those boards, then they are not worth being discussed on lolcow at all. Containment boards are not the answer when we have such a small population of users.
I strongly support indefinite hellweek and while I dislike captchas I understand their use.
Thank you for your openness, Admin.
>>3107>you might as well unban the banned cows and let people make threads again.
All admin has to do is unlock the threads, since most of them didn't even hit bump limit yet. Like I said before, only one of those banned threads need to stay banned. The others were fine. I feel like the admins and mods are just trying to cut corners. Like, if you can't handle these threads being active again, what makes you think you can handle adding extra, unnecessary boards?
>We need more hell week and increased moderation to keep the cancer out.The problem wasn't the subjects of those threads. It was some of the people posting in them.
I agree, but not yet. I think the new admin, staff and users need some adjustment time. I was part of an image board once, and when it changed its admin, it was natural for everyone to try to suggest several improvements, but they rushed everything and they failed to keep the ib in order, and succumbed to very simple raids on their first month. Then they got their shit together.>>3108
Agreed. Every single word
Completely agree. They think they win when they get what they want and then shit up the whole board and refuse to assimilate.
God knows I'm sick of these faggots that can't sage, use emojis on an image board, and run around typing "lol" & "lmao" in every one of their posts.
For fucks sake, the Anas have MPA for them to sperg at.>>3106
Well then those that can't be assed to read the rules and announcements on meta most likely are not assimilated, newfags that can fuck right off with their demands. Why should we bend to their ignorance and stupidity?
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Am I the only one experiencing year old threads with year old posts suddenly getting bumped to first page on /pt/?
I'm not sure what's happening, I thought the grand exodus was happening at last
Or is there something else going on?
emojis and lmao aren't actually against the rules though, although I hate them too.>>3132
combination of >>3133
and also I suspect PULL users given some of the inane shitposting
I'm having the same problem, I get it's there for the board's safety… but is there by any chance a way for anons to edit their posts (due to misspelling something or missing out words) that can be implemented in some way?
I think that's the main problem for me (maybe for other anons too), especially when spellcheck kicks in and fucks my posts up at times… so I end up deleting them and trying again, but the flood protection won't let me amend them anymore.
No worries if it's a difficult option that can't be resolved, I just thought I'd mention it.
Allowing people to edit is probably a bad move, since half of the fun of anonymous boards is catching people selfposting etc.
Hopefully the flood detection can be turned down a notch after things calm down with the PULLtards etc, I've had similar problems
Admin, did you by any chance hire a new janitor a few days ago? Were they by any chance from tumblr?
Someone is being a bit weird, nothing serious but still noticeable.
I've seen similar happen, someone mentions their gender in a thread where it's absolutely relevant to do so and gets hit with a ban for being a guy. Seems strange to ban all men when original admin was a guy.
People should be banned for acting like this is /r9k/, but if they're just normal posters it seems kind of unclear why they're banned.
I will discuss with the admin and other mods on when to ban bots. I personally believe that if the bot is totally shitting up the thread that they should be banned. But yes, do report bots IF you feel the need to and we will discuss on whether or not it deserves a ban. Not all of them should in my opinion though.>>3162
I'm assuming this has been happening in the friendship finder thread in /g/. I will look into it and notify Admin about this and see about unbanning them.
Since the subject of banning robots and reporting them has come up, what do you all feel calls for a ban when a bot has made themselves present(besides posting in /g/ in threads where they obviously don't belong)?
Yeah, I agree that bots who are acting obnoxiously should be banned, but I wasn't sure if it was the bot opinions alone that were the issue there or being obnoxious. I was talking about the friend finder thread too, yeah.
Personally I just think robots should be banned when they're posting the whole "Women are evil and terrible whores" shit, or turning inappropriate threads into pity parties, it's the posts themselves that are the issue rather than where the poster themselves is from. When they act like this is /r9k/.
Simply being a guy shouldn't be grounds for a ban otherwise as far as I see it.
Those definitely make sense, but it's not really obvious to someone looking at the rules page that those are there, especially when you have to follow a few links to get there.
There's no way there could just be an amendments section added to the rules page?
Like…slightly autistic/unable to see when anons are clearly joking/getting triggered
at jokes? Can't find that post though.
You ruined this fucking site. It was already becoming shit, but your complete lack of good management, and your autistic ideas of a FUCKING OEKAKI BOARD are -to put it simply- ridiculous. You fat cunt, we all know you were one of those attention whores who licked admins ass on the chats. I tried to adapt to the changes, but dammit, you are the reason why I hate women as admins on imageboards, and I say that as a woman myself. You are immature, and weak. You're unable to even maintain the last changes former admin made a few weeks ago. For fuck's sake, you can't even control an spammer! You go to threads and post your opinion, because of course it's fucking okay to go to a thread on your own fucking website and say you dislike it! It's not as if all of the asslicker snowflakes here won't go shit up the thread. You fucking incompetent cunt, I hope you nuke this site, because you as a manager is worse than the black plague. Now go eat some doritos as you pretend to be good at this shitfest, you useless whale.
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Woah there buddy, relax will you? Why didn't you make a calm post stating your issues with the site with sound arguments and suggestions instead? I get that you are upset, but a gossipy chan board should not get you this riled up.
You're mad because they suggested something and then didn't implement it when the fans said not to?
There's not really been any major changes except hellweek being brought in to deal with the robots spamming.
Are you really this mad a shitty thread full of robots or two got locked after admin said their opinion on it?
Did you just forget to put your points in because of all the insults or what? Chill.
Mods are issuing warnings without ID-ing themselves as staff. That never used to happen, and I find it a bit weird for random anon commenters to be issuing warnings in a thread. It could be anybody.
Admin, can we have Farmhands ID-ing themselves whenever the message is a moderation one?
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You need to chill lil buddy.
This is just an Imageboard, not your lifework
Not that anon but taken how mods have been found not just once but several
times posting without IDs, how do we know that they aren't posting around here whiteknighting themselves…?
Do you guys now get what are you doing when you do this shit? How irresponsible you look in front of the userbase? Your users are going to distrust you at every chance they get now. It's so fucking obvious that I don't get how didn't you even think it twice before showing such and immature behaviour for a mod.
exactly. They think that because they mod a chanboard, they can just do whatever.
if you're going to issue warnings, log in to your account, don't just post as anon because no one's going to fucking believe you.
hell, some of them don't even understand chan culture, it's so obvious that this is at least one mod's first time on the Internet.
>inb4 y u salty xD
I'm honestly just wanting a good female oriented chan to sit on. and that used to be lolcow. I respected the old admin because up until he locked up those threads, he seemed to respect his users. He understood how to run a website and most users trusted him.
the way the new admin came in was problematic
enough, but now that there have been multiple cases of mods issuing warnings wit out logging in, mods not understanding chan culture or accusing people who are obviously being facetious of racebaiting, and the overall clusterfuck in /b/, people are going to be upset. Especially if they've been around for the /cgl/ and stamrose drama.
I can get what you're saying if they're repeatedly not logging into their accounts, that is kind of annoying, but it's hellweek, the whole point of that is that the assumption isn't you're just joking and harmless, especially with the amount of robots we've had shitposting recently.
Just take a deep breath and wait until the thing specifically designed for the mods to be able to ban first and ask later is over before you complain the moderation acts too quickly.
I don't know if you mean the same thing but I noticed at least one mod giving out cringey-sounding red ban messages.
One of them also posted "I hate this thread" using a capcode which was completely unnecessary.
@Admin, thank you for being responsive today when a mod got a little carried away with the banhammer (Permabanned, yeesh! my blood ran cold..)