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No. 362650
Idol Hell e Youkoso!
A thread to discuss 2D idol franchises. Talk about the games, the anime, the live shows, the music, seiyuu, characters and shipping, nostalgia, and anything else to do with 2D idol and idol-adjacent media.
Franchises include but are not limited to:
>Idolm@ster Branches>Love Live! Series>Bang Dream! Girls Band Party>Project Diva>Project Sekai>Idolish7>Utapri>[insert dead franchise]Please take Ensemble Stars posting to its designated thread:
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I don't play these anymore but I'll always hold Love Live in a special place in my heart as it was one of my first idol games and introduced me to Maki-chan. I look back on those memories so fondly.
No. 362664
Does revue starlight fit here? I used to play the mobile game on the EN server but I fucked up rolling for a Futaba banner with only free gems and then I stopped playing all idol games since out of rage kek
I want to get back into Deresute at least
>>362662I wish OG SIF was still online…I miss those memories too
No. 362667
>>362664>I wish OG SIF was still online…I quit playing years before it went down but it still hurts, like that was my childhood memories game. I still have so many screenshots clogging my gallery. So many cards that juked me…RIP in pieces SIF
>>362666Immaculate taste nonna. Umi's and Eli's singing voices are my favorite
No. 362673
Thanks for the thread, nonna! I've wanted something like this for a long time. Plugging one of my favorites while I'm here.
I like most idol media, but Pretty Rhythm will always have my heart for being one of the few female idol series I know of that are willing to get as stupid and wild as some of the male idol series.
>>362664I've always been curious about Revue Starlight, is it a series with a lot of heated drama and intense relationships (which is what I gather from hearsay)? Might pick it up if true.
No. 362677
>>362673I don't think I need or even want other idol franchises to give me women like this but Pretty Rhythm really is the only franchise that would give us women like Hibiki Shikyoin
toxic masc extraordinaire and I love it for that.
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>>362673I've only watched the anime so far so I can't comment on the movies (iirc they're recaps?) but it's a melodrama with action, lots of rivalries with homoerotic vibes and surreal imagery.
There's stage plays and unlike most franchises that tack them on later the series actually started with them first, and they're pretty good.
I'd ramble more but I don't want to spoil.
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I have played so many accounts over the years it's insane. I've gone through like 3 SIF accounts, 2 SIFAS accounts, 4 bandori accounts, 3 mrst accounts, 1 drst account, 1 shinymas account, 1 starira account, and another account for a seiyuu raising game that i forgot the name of. I am literally addicted to cute singing anime girls I'm deranged. I'm not even counting the non-idol gachas in here but I've played a bunch of those too. I'm cured now though, just keep up with the characters tangentially
No. 362696
>>362690The drama tends to be very lukewarm. They don't let the discussions escalate enough out for fear of ruining Someomes Waifu™,that was one of my problema back in the day. Arcana Arcadia is as dramatic as it gets on the game
>>362673No, Rondo Rondo Rondo is a recap. But the Movie is the true ending.
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>>362693NTA but I'll love Claudine forever
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>>362703Amazing taste nonna…I have autism that makes me oshi genki MCs so I liked Karen.
Hikaren forever No. 362705
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>>362696Picrel because you can't have one without the other
>>362703Claudine's pretty good too
>>362699Didn't know Ensemble Girls was even a thing. It feels wrong seeing it knowing that Enstars exists, like in another timeline that was big instead
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Ah, Revue Starlight is great. I was actually expecting Revue for almost a whole year after its first animated PV got released. I knew I was going to like it from the military-inspired uniforms, and also because some nip stage play director that makes GL stage plays was shilling the Revue stage plays on his twatter. The stage plays' music is great too. I have a fuckton merch of this, and even spent money on the gacha. I also wish bnn would fucking rape me.
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Thoughts on new im@s franchise??
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>>362884It’s called Gakuen Idolm@ster, but the games not out yet, only 4 character bios have been translated so far. I agree that the art style looks pretty generic but she looks interesting
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>>362892>Banana is by far the most retarded kekUntil you actually watch the anime and movies and realize she's fucking handsome.
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Post your oshis, nonnas. Bonus round, favorite ships
>Kasuari>Rinpana>Chikariko>Kotomeguhttps://www.befunky.com/create/collage/ No. 363505
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Anyone watched picrel? What do you think of it? I personally really enjoyed it and it made me tear up numerous times. The songs are very nice as well, except the emo loli's song, she was annoying and her music sucked, but her plotline was interesting.
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>>363502
>Nico YazawaNo bulli for my taste please, I just really like her bratty personality.
>Mari O'HaraWas a hard choice between Mari and Yohane, but decided to go for Mari because I like mischievous "big sister"-like personalities, that, and her Engrish was pretty entertaining.
>Kasumi NakasuSame reason why I like Nico, kek. She also has the prettiest voice of
all the groups.
>Keke TangLiterally just a superior version of You and a Kotori with a backbone. Best MC BFF.
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>>363514>No bulli for my taste pleaseOne should never apologize for loving the #1 school idol
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>>363502>Favorite shipsKaochisa
No. 364543
>>363505I liked it, enough to check on the writing duo's new work despite, well what it is, but the songs weren't all too memorable and the ending could've been better. The robot companion cube was super cute.
One day I'll read the accompanying novels.
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Bless this thread, I've never had anyone to sperg about these franchises with irl. Do D4DJ and Project Sekai count as well?
>>363502Hard to choose only four faves, I kind of wanted to include more but it ended up looking really cluttered and I wasn't sure about including D4DJ girls. Hurts to leave Lanzhu out because she's the only character I actually can sympathize with but other than that, she falls just a bit short from Shioriko. Maki was my first fave so she's close to the top. I used to like Ai and Kotori a lot but for some reason I don't at all anymore.
Fave ships are YukiLisa, KaoChisa, MasuRokka, DiverDiva and LanShio…
Browsing the old cards for the faves collage was a blast, I feel surprisingly sad that og LLSIF and SIFAS ended services, they had the best cards and I had all my faves…What are your fave card sets or themes? From any game or franchise.
>>362673Give Revue Starlight a try, I ended up really liking it!
>>362696>The drama tends to be very lukewarm.Kind of, yes, but at the same time it was somehow fulfilling, idk how to explain it lol.
>>363474this, banana is the best
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I miss LLSIF so much. I remember being a kid and pulling this card and screaming so much I almost threw up. I cannot believe they got away with having a gacha with .00001% UR chance and no pity. I even managed to get my friends into the game and we would cosplay and do terrible dance covers that are thankfully lost to time kek. Nico will always be my #1!! ♥ I play pjsk now but it's not the same
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>>370697I always hated the concept of Love Live until my friends started cosplaying it, then i saw this and the valentine Nico card and fell in love with her. I had crazy luck in game, played almost daily and save all my gems to spend for her birthday.
When they made All Stars and that was her first UR i actually cried, sorry for the waifu derailing but i really love the first SIF game a lot, i loved how colorful it was rather than the washed and clean look of modern idol games now.
Sometimes i revisit this site which emulates some things but it's not the same.
https://card.llsif.moe/liveAlso this Eli costume was so gorgeous
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I love how Rin had the most basic haircut an animu girl can have yet they didn't hold back from giving her fun hairstyles.
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>>370697LLSIF had some of the best outfits, it's too bad the entire franchise basically died after Aqours. I was so obsessed with this card back in the day, had it as my icon on everything kek
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>>375883I also love the concept of UR pairs so much. Hunting down a card and then hunting down the girl she was paired with was always so much fun. When they stopped doing paired cards that's when I knew the game was going downhill.
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>>375883>died after Aqourslmao
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>>368331>What are your fave card sets or themes? From any game or franchise.I have a lot but I had to narrow it down. I like it when games do unique outfits and card compositions more than generic pretty dress #999.
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>>375883Weirdly enough, I’ve been enjoying the Superstar!!/Liella group a lot. Their song lineups are pretty good, and the characters are fun. Niji was too much for me to follow in comparison. Too bad about the app dying though kek.
>>375973I can try to explain, especially as a homo lol. The designs are cute and the characters don’t get ogled by men, or are made to be pair-bait for men in the show itself, and the cast is usually made up by female fans of the older seasons who also liked the series. The character personalities also tend to be zany/cartoony and much more than “girl likes guy/wants men to like her” you normally see in anime, which is refreshing for anime girls in general. If anything, if there’s a girl like that, she usually wants to impress another girl or be fawned over by other girls. So the series tends to be labeled as “safe” for female viewers and fans. Despite the skimpiness of some outfits in the cards, which is par for the course in gacha games, the series itself is pretty far from being coomery.
Also afaik the main writer for the series is a woman who’s written yuri, which is likely why characters are not as annoying and actually have aspirations and generally just down-to-earth relatable issues, instead of “I just want to marry a boy someday” dialogue you normally see written for female idols like in im@s. Honestly, LL! is pretty entrenched in yuri especially in the manga/games where characters will talk about promising to marry their designated ship pair—I even recall a magazine scan of Nozomi and Eli in female/male wedding attire with each other, or talk about how they are attracted to women specifically. The latter especially started a huge shitstorm with the app translators years back when they tried removing the lesbian remarks from the game to replace them with more vague “they could like guys!” type dialogue. They reverted that after backlash and kept the lesbian stuff intact, thankfully.
TL;DR: It’s probably the “safest” idol series for girls since the main writer is a woman.
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>>375973Cute girls, cute dresses, cute songs, healthy dose of female friendship drama that doesn't go overboard and stays mostly wholesome, and like
>>375992 said, yeah there is fanservice, that's par for the course in male-targeted gacha but it's on the tamer side of the scale. The lack of a a male self-insert character (or any male characters at all) gives room for the girls to personalities and human emotions. Plus, there's a lot of nostalgia attached for us with love live specifically I'm assuming.
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>>375992Forgot to add: males are hardly ever shown in the series, so bi/les women who tend to like yuri flocked to it too. Men are either only shown from the back, dead, an animal or a toddler. Even then a lot of the animals tend to be female too. Nobody has an older brother, and the characters tend to only talk up/look up to mothers/grandmothers even. The only exception I remember is Maki from the OG group but that’s because her dad wants her to take over his spot as head doctor of the hospital he runs one day.
Idolslop is far from feminist, but LL! is palatable for what it is. It’s one of the few modern anime where characters talk about wanting to be doctors or deans, instead of being housewives—and when they are, it’s usually in relation to a girl they like and is jokey. It’s also the only idol anime I know where they’re encouraged to see the idol stuff as a temporary thing/a way to make friends with other girls in school—with it almost sports anime style/cheerleading or dance school clubs with competitions—instead of being a career thing.
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>>376004Lol, there is one named and shown male in LL, Nico's baby brother
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>>376006Lol yeah it’s either this or someone’s male pet. Manmaru, Kanon’s pet owl, is the only other named male I remember. The other pets I remember were female kek.
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>>376019I don’t think it’s the same. The thing is men still want a hint of them still having a chance with the girls, or a hint that the girls will give their lives up for a man. They still want that whole “I want to be a housewife” dialogue exchange instead of having aspirations. That’s why harem and isekai anime are the most popular with them. Even in things like im@s, seemingly-tomboyish Makoto’s while deal is wanting to be seen as feminine so she can get a boyfriend. There’s nothing like this in LL! at all.
I feel like LL! does these things pretty differently since the girls actually grow and have actual issues ranging from familial loss, alienation due to high tiger family style expectations, or even childhood trauma from seeing an animal die (Rin’s backstory with the dead kittens in the manga). The main writer, Sakurako Kimino, did the same tactic in her yuri series Strawberry Panic! where men aren’t shown, not to keep the girls “pure,” but so the girls can actually be characters, and even show interest in each other. In that series, there is one side character named Rokujo Miyuki whose fate was to be married off to a man after she graduates and it’s written and shown as a legitimately very dark and sad situation. So yeah I don’t think it’s done similarly in comparison to something just for male appeal. It’s done so characters can actually have personalities like
>>376001 says.
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>>375973I can only speak for Love Live, it's the only idol franchise that actually interested me but side confession: i never watched the anime or ovas.
I'm the same as
>>370708 so in short: i was weirded out by fictional idols > my friends started sperging about it with me > got into the mobile game > enjoyed it (also i was in my early teens)
At first it was something like Animal Crossing, i liked to log in, have fun with the rhythm game as i realized that it is actually very fun and cute. Got into the cards, characters and stories a bit later on and it made me realize how much i actually enjoyed it, even tried other idol games but they felt more flat to me.
I also liked how they avoided showing guys since i was a homo too kek, so it was easier for me to self insert my silly crush or find the characters more relatable.
I really just liked it overall, i loved how the events would work too, the backgrounds, collecting the cute titles, every costume set, it was always something that made me feel happy.
Picrel was a side character that i liked a lot in the first game, just for existing, and when she became one of the main idols out of the trillion other characters i felt so proud kek, too bad that at that point it was already going stale.
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As a lesbian, I also liked the blatant yuri in LL! especially the comics you could read in the old app (RIP).
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>>376039KEK i remember this, if i didn't touch love live i'd be put off by this nowdays (even if she's cool) but i just trusted it as i went deeper, i also like it when it's silly like this sometimes, sure complicated feelings are fine but i also enjoy the simple ones, it's an idol series and not Romeo and Juliet after all.
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>>376039My N girl ship of choice was ryo/koyuki. Is there anywhere online we can find the rest of the 4komas?
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does anyone here remember idol master sidem?? i remember playing growing stars before it’s shut down. they still make new songs and shit but no new games kek. SEM was always my favorite especially jiro
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>>376053I never got into sideM but the frog fag was cute ngl
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>>376053jiro was so peak it's unreal, he's everything I want in a
bottom. lord knows if they'll ever make another game and how many months it'll last before it gets nuked again. but I'll take anything as long as it means resurrecting the fandom and getting a stable flow of new content.
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>>375907nta but I swear the art quality for the cards in sif fell off hard after awhile especially when they were trying to juggle muse and aqours in the game. Aqours got the better artist when they were newer but then they all started to have a weird look imo. Maybe it got better but seeing the stiff looking event SRs used to kill me.
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>>376034NTA, I was always turned off by LL!'s chara designs but you convinced me to give it a try. I gravitate towards im@s (just looking at fanarts and such, picrel is my fave girl) but i'd hate the husband developments. Thanks!
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I typically abhor idol franchises, but this show was so dumb and so full of fanservice - I loved it.