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No. 287123
>>287121The thing is, the devs add some twists to every game to make it a tad bit different than the other.
Everyone and their mom has played and recommend Fire Emblem Awakening because it is easy enough, not hard to get into and previous game knowledge is not required, while it does have some past game references.
If you prefer more old-school gameplay, Fire Emblem Sacred stones is also great and completely newbie friendly. The thread pic is from that game.
No. 287126
>>287123I know the threadpic is from Sacred Stones, I said I played it but never finished it. I think I started with Erika's route and stopped after doing a map in the desert because one of my unit died from a hit that had like 10% of landing for the 3rd time kek. I was too lazy to do some grinding between chapters and while Seth is supposed to be OP, his stats in my run weren't that noteworthy compared to other units.
The reason why I started with Awakening isn't just because it was easy, though that was pretty good for me, but also because it was popular enough on tumblr that I learned that yes, the series isn't Japan-only anymore (although until the Switch games didn't get released everywhere at the same time). Which other older games would you recommend?
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>>2871147, 8 & 13 are good beginner games.
No. 287205
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>>287114It depends on if you want an easy experience or not. Older FE games can be punishing and only the newer games have stuff like modes where your units don't die forever if they get killed in a level.
Personally I think for a classic FE experience, you should play 7. It has a great story and really fun characters, you'll love all of the main lords. It has all the things that make classic FE great: great maps, scaling difficulty, secret levels, interesting support conversations between characters, actual need to strategize between battles (between your inventory and what characters to level and use), and just a good classic fantasy story with some light politics. It can also be emulated on like every device and the gameplay is easy to pick up and put down.
If you want a more modern FE experience, ie: otome simulator, I'd go with 3 Houses and I'd play either Crimson Flower (if you like shipping) or Azure Moon (if you like husbandos) first. Then I would beg you to play the spinoff 3 Hopes which is not exactly a FE game but it's fucking amazing if you enjoyed 3 Houses at all.
>How long have you been playing?I'm an oldfag and have been playing it since I was a little kid, I started with 7 because it was localized in the US first, but have played every entry in the series.
>Favorite title?Tossup between 4, 7, and 3Hopes.
>Least favorite title?Tied between Engage and Thracia 776. And maybe the Shadow Dragon remakes
>Any hot takes?90% of Awakening's characters suck ass and have 0 personality.
No. 287214
>>2871147/Blazing Sword has one of the better tutorials in the series so far. It eases you into many of the series' common gameplay mechanics (using items, units and their roles, weapon triangle, enemy recruits etc) without just dumping a ton of text boxes on you. It's mechanically simple enough, even compared to some of its predecessors, that it should be fun to branch out from if you like the core gameplay and want to play other games in the series.
As far as the essential FE experience goes, even though they all keep the same basic gameplay, the series does tend to invent and reinvent new ways to interact with that basic gameplay loop that most fans will have different opinions on what is "essential FE", and only a few games are ever that similar to each other, exceptions being the GBA games (6,7,8) and DS remakes of 1 and 3. I personally tend to think of Thracia 776 as "the most fire emblem-y fire emblem", both in things afforded to and inflicted upon the player, but then I couldn't really recommend that to a newcomer.
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>>287205Honestly, as much as I love Three houses I wouldn't recommend it to a newbie, because it might create dead wrong expectations for the rest of the games. The whole open world, communicating with the characters in a more intimate lever than ever, quests to fetch objects and having a lot of control for skills which make classes almost pointless in the game, is absent in other games. Plus, much like Shadows of Valentia, there is no weapon triangle, which is a critical point of strategy.
That said, Three Houses is a masterpiece, the characters have more depth than most games and the story is simply captivating.
No. 287242
>>287217>The whole open world, communicating with the characters in a more intimate lever than ever, quests to fetch objects and having a lot of control for skills which make classes almost pointless in the gamenta but FE3H isn't my first FE game but It's one of my first and I really hate the open world aspect. It's so tedious to run around and talk to everyone and do stupid quests when all I wanna do is either progress in the story or do combat. It's a shame too because I like everything else in the game but the open world drags it down.
I do like the skills system though but I gotta admit it feels kinda aimless since you can do whatever you want with it
No. 287288
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Do you guys have fanart that's not tumblr tier shit? I'm looking for stuff like picrel
No. 287296
>>287217ayrt, yeah, I totally see where you're coming from. To be honest all the newer games have that aspect. Running around the church in 3H is tedious af and I wish the map was better. The hub/base for Awakening, Fates, and Engage have been also very meh to me. I do not want to feed the tadpole dragon bread, pet/blow on a random character, or listen to someone coming in to my room like a confessional, kek.
I do like having a home base, because it can be nice to just go to an area to screw around, but none of the bases so far have really scratched the itch ig.
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>>287354I don’t want to spam so I’ll just post a few. Sorry in advance if they’re not to your liking.
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No. 287448
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A Fire Emblem general! Be still my beating heart.
Nonas, I have a very unimportant question to ask. Should my Alear marry("give the bond ring to", whatever) Ivy or Diamant? Engage has fun gameplay but is otherwise kinda dogshit, so I don't think I'll be going in for another playthrough for a few months. Pic unrelated.
No. 287677
>>287380thank you
nonnie, you gotta love the edgelords and the traumatized girlies
>>287400thank you as well! I specially loved the third and the last one!
No. 287906
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>>287288You don't want to know how much Dimitri art I have on my phone tbh
No. 287999
>>287923>>287980I'm honestly surprised by such nice responses, I fully expected to get torn to shreds for daring to criticize Awakening (I like the game too tbf). Fire Emblem nonnies are the sweetest.
I'm playing the patched translation of Fates Conquest right now because I got curious about the differences. If there's one thing I really like about the gameboy femblems, it's that the gameplay is nice and fast. I always hated that maps took forever on console titles. Shoutout to the Fates
nonny that posted it in one of the /m/ threads! I forget which.
No. 288057
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>>287999Correction for you: FE GIRLS are the sweetest. The men are horrid a lot of the time, god bless everyone here
have more Dima
No. 288133
>>288102I hate her. She's just yuribait for men who want to believe that they can turn a lesbian into a straight girl with their dick. What made me love Laslow is that while he tries to be flirty he's really just a shy bumbling fool, meanwhile they tried to make Soleil "successful" at it as a contrast. Instead she comes off as sexually harassing everyone she talks to, including her own mother. I hated her already but reading her conversations with Corrin (if you're her mom) were absolutely disgusting. It's played off for jokes but it's not funny at all and really gross, especially because she doesn't ever seem to stop or care about the feelings of others.
Laslow deserved a cute daughter or son that would naturally attract people with their charisma no matter if they tried or not, if they were so desperate to create a contrasting character.
No. 288155
>>288152Agreed with all of it. Inigo's charm is that he's actually really soft-hearted among other things and his interactions with Olivia were always adorable to me. They gave Soleil absolutely 0 of that charm.
Also can we just talk about how treehouse fucked everything up during the localization? The fact that some of them really just wrote what they wanted it to be rather then actual translations is mind blowing in the sheer amount of audacity.
No. 288169
>>288165>Was it some sort of weird powertrip? It has to be there's no other explanation for that shit. It's not even like Ace Attorney or Pokemon where they would have needed to adapt some things anyway like, idk the characters having names that are puns in Japanese and trying to make similar puns in other languages that also look and sound like names, or whatever. Even names that are common in the West were changed like Léon became Leo, and Benoit became Benny because these names were too French for American millenial hipsters working at Treehouse I guess? They also thought everyone was too stupid to read Suzukaze and shortened it and changed some of the Chinese names as well for some characters that show up in the DLC route, which straight up contradicts the setting itself. Just these name changes are stupid but if it were just that I wouldn't have noticed all that much. Then they saw a whole fucking kingdom that's clearly inspired by India and changed all the names to make it seem like it's inspired by Ancient Greece and Norse mythology because…? Which is dumb as hell because one of the final bosses is a giant dragon that wears a mask that's literally just Buddha's face so they couldn't have hidden it either way because as far as I know Buddhism wasn't really a thing in Ancient Greece kek. Shit like this was common in video game localization 20 years before that game got officially released, they must have been very arrogant to think that this was acceptable. I bought physical copies for both BR and CQ in my first language because unfortunately Nintendo is full of retards so the console is region locked, but I waited until I could find cheap second hand copies just out of principles despite looking forward to it as soon as the first trailer got released.
And about Effie… She wasn't even the worst one. They fucked up Rhajat and Hisame way more just on top of my head. They made Garon seem even more like a maniac and Xander like he had enough common sense to notice that his father was a sadistic piece of shit, which contradicts the entire story so much it's no surprise that everyone thinks the story is nonsense.
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>>288165I love Fates game play wise but I'm still so upset at how badly they localized it, and how bad they fumbled even the backstory that wasn't shown for some reason. Resident Camilla fan who wishes the reasons for her being messed up were more than just casually mentioned in side content.
No. 288197
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>>288057Thank you nonna, have a Ferdinand in return!
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>>288210I guess I just latched onto her (and only ship her with women) bc I've felt similar a lot of times, where my body type alone dictated how people saw me. I know not everyone finds it empowering but I love how much of a mess she is. Fanfics ftw there's a ton of good Caminoka and Cormilla art thank god
No. 288593
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I'm an oldfag, my favorite game is FE4, though I only played it a few years ago. I thought I would hate Engage but I've actually been enjoying it so far. The gameplay is fun, some of the supports are nice but you have to dig deep. Alcryst has great supports, for example despite having a terrible introduction.
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>>288593I'm surprised how much he grew on me.
No. 289068
>>288613yall are tempting me to find money I don't have for engage rn
friend also said the game play is great and thats a lot of what I liked about older FE
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>>289068If it's gameplay you like, absolutley go for it. It has some of the most polished gameplay in the series with a tonne of customization and great battle animations. The latest DLC, the Fell Xenologue was icing on the cake because it requires the player to actually understand the game mechanics like games of the past. It's a rare piece of gaming content that actually requires the player understand Engage's skill and bond system to beat it on higher difficulties. I really enjoyed the challenge.
No. 290230
>>288613I just got to this part in the game, the
snake dragon was really cute and straight up looked like something out of monster hunter, kek. I wish the models in Engage weren't so ugly, the faces actually freak me out a bit when they move, and I know it's shallow but I'm having a hard time finishing it for that reason.
No. 290314
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She was right about everything, the nobility system, the corruption, she knew all about those who slither in the dark, the crests, the fact that Rhea is a creepy shady bitch, everything. Her wanting to declare a war/uprising because these oppressive structures are not just going to hand over their authority is perfectly logical and her trauma with Crest experimenting is something very undermined. If you recruit Lysithea, she never explicitly tells her that they've gone through the same thing, but it always warms my heart that she looks out for her in that matter. The fact that fans call her a war criminal, of all things, considering there's Dimitri over there slaughtering civilians left and right after he's gone crazy, and the church literally establishing a faux religion to create an oppressive system that benefits only a small amoutn of rich people is really something.
I can understand how Dimitri, blinded by his grief, could pinpoint the tragedy of Duscur to anyone, but come the fuck on, nothing pointed at her, and I say this as a fan of Dimitri, because I respect his character development.
No. 290420
>>290314I love Edelgard anon and the Black Eagles are my favorite route hands down, so I agree with you. The writing for 3H was both great and awful, where you can clearly tell that there was some meddling to pander or the part of the writing team with the shitty ideas got the spotlight. TWSITD should have never existed, and their arcs are the worst parts of the game, imo. I would have been a lot happier if it was just the nobles of Adrestia themselves being evil bastards and not being controlled by some kind of… evil skinchanger mole-people with anti-dragon nukes.
Dimitri was the route I first played and while I'm also a fan, I hated how the writing made him win just because. His underdog group manages to do everything, they beat back an invading country twice their size and also manage to kill the actual bad guys at the same time by complete chance! Amazing. There's never any feeling that you're fighting insurmountable odds or that you have no idea what the fuck might be really going on. Plus there's never any resolution for Dimitri's schizo episodes, Dedue just reappears one level and then suddenly through the power of love Dimitri is now more sane and whatever. His cringe speech to Byleth when he was standing in the rain was also very poorly written.
And Claude's route is extremely boring since it's all about TWSITD. Claude himself undergoes some kind of spine transplant after the timeskip and loses all the mischief and sassy quips that made his character fun, and the writing is always extremely shitty to him too, always saying what an amazing ruthless genius he is and never showing him doing anything of substance.
I like 3H but all the lords have their share of shitty writing kek. I'm sick of people picking on Edelgard like she's the one that sucks the most because of dumb waifu elements (the other lords have their husbando moments plenty of times).
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>>290314I have my issues with Edelgard and the CF route, but extreme Edelgard haters are insane. They always woobify Dimitri and Rhea, stripping them of all the parts of their characters that actually make the interesting and leaving them as a misunderstood sadboi who just needs a hug and a misunderstood mommy milkers tittybimbo who just wants her mother-grandchild to wuv her. How anyone could believe this about a guy who crushes other guy's skulls with one hand and an immortal dragon woman who established herself as the head of a false religion created so she could engage in human experimentation to bring back her dead mommy, I'll never know.
The few who try to paint Edelgard's anti-Children of the Goddess sentiment as the equivalent of real world racism are hysterical, though. The Nabateans are an alien race of super-powerful immortals who still control society even when their numbers can be counted on one hand. Sothis is, from what we can tell through her dialogue/positive reactions towards the choices Byleth takes, ruthless and bloodthirsty. This is the series where "nice dragon goes crazy and threatens humanity" is the plot of like half the games! Come on! The only reason Seteth and Flayn are so relatively normal is because the former can't transform anymore and the latter is too young, and very likely half-human. Rhea is looney tunes even before her breakdown at the end of CF/SS. Still love her tho
No. 290443
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>How long have you been playing?
2004
>Favourite title?
FE4
>Least favourite title?
Shadows of Valentia
>Any hot takes?
SoV is a misogynist game that doesn't treat feminicide with the tact it deserves. It's miles worse the coomer shit in 13, 14 and FEH.
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I'm replaying PoR right now and I forgot that it had such cute illustrations for the cutscenes. It really reminds me of older femblem games, I miss these and how nice they are.
No. 290723
>>290645Are you playing this on an emulator? I downloaded Dolphin but I'm not sure how to proceed.
>>290443I am really curious about your take on this. I always though SoV was not popular because it appealed more to the female gaze.
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>>304922Eh, it depends on what your definition of niche is. Is it Mother/Earthbound or Rune Factory niche-levels? I would say no. I think it's as niche as Phoenix Wright. If I were to put Fire Emblem in an videogame franchises iceberg, I think I would put it in the third tier (the underwater level closest to the surface).
No. 305114
>>304922To be honest it really WAS niche before Awakening. There was a real fear that no new Femblems would be made if Awakening failed because the series wasn't that profitable and nintendo was in its flop era at the time. I think 3 Houses really propelled the series into more of the mainstream, though.
I think the earlier games are still pretty niche. I don't hear anyone except actual fefags talking about 4 for example. 7 was the first game to even be ported from Japan and even that I don't hear people sperg about.
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I've been trying to beat the 4th floor of the radiant dawn's tower for almost a week but my team is too weak : i picked up based on characters i liked but i guess i'll have to make a new team with the unlikable/ random strong characters. Who should i pick/ what should i do to prepare please ?
No. 411230
>>410382>>410383I started over and practically only picked laguz royals
aka mostly characters i don't care for, except Tibarn my beloved. I feel like i leveled up characters like Meg (i know… but i just find her so cute !) for nothing. I'm kinda dispointed i could only choose 10 unites, i was looking forward to a huge final battle. Ike is insanely charismatic tho, he carried both games and i understand why he's so popular, the best lord by far for me.
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i miss silly boy henry
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>>411290I love Henry. Especially when he has an ouchie
No. 411431
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>>290723>I am really curious about your take on this. I always though SoV was not popular because it appealed more to the female gaze.Ayrt, I'm one year late but more or less it treats its female characters like garbage.
Yes, it has a cute and feminine artstyle with many milquetoast bishies that have non-threathening personalities. Yes, the female characters look cute and none of them will look overtly sexualized unless you get the DLC classes.
But all through the game, Alm in canon basically never does any wrong while Celica's journey is fuck up after fuck up, on top of her HAHA WOMEN SO EMOTIONAL AND UNSTABLE AMIRITE moment (the game's director described it as such in an interview) of meeting Alm again after childhood. She also needs to be constantly rescued by men, including by a new male OC that wasn't in the NES game.
Then, Alm rescues Celica from being turned into Duma's Witch by… impaling her abdomen with his sword so he can purify her body. They could have done this purification scene in million other ways, yet they chose a very graphically violent one (not to mention, I think it's quite phallic). Oh, this impaling happens after the worst offender in the game: Berkut's death.
Through all the game, Berkut slowly goes insane after Alm defeats him again and again, but his wife Rinea reassures him every time and she exists solely for that. Then a big titty evil tempress villainess tempts him and more or less tells him that if he wants power, he can sacrifice something precious to him. After the last straw of being defeated by Alm another time, Berkut gives up to male rage and KILLS RINEA BY THROWING HER INTO A PYRE WHERE SHE BURNS ALIVE and she gets turned into a charred Duma's Witch that accompanies his moid ass.
After you kill Berkut and Witch Rinea, he regrets his actions and you think he is too late for forgiveness… but Rinea's spirit comes down from heaven to forgive him because he was just a poor little misunderstood baby who gave in to his manrage! And she still loves him no matter what!
That's how fucked up SoV is. And the cherry on top? They sold this game as having dual protagonists but the truth is that Alm is the real hero, in the ending you see Celica hold his arm from his PoV. Celica is his trophy wife and (You, the Male Player) get to both impale her violently to purify her from an evil entity and to marry her as your queen.
Then there's also the very fucked up lore of Witches and how the only playable Witch has an ending that implies she will lose her mind and become a puppet like all Witches do.
In short, I fucking hate this misogynistic game that sees women as trophies to save, as frivolous, emotional people who only know sacrifice, being bossy, eat hot chip, lusting after men and lie. Women like this game because it's pretty and it sounds nice but I've never seen anyone really think how fucked up this plot is. The director also said that the story was meant to show the duality between men and women: what I see is his moidy view of the world and his inability to understand women. I can think of older and superficially more sexist media, including Fire Emblem 4, who are far more realistic in their depiction of women, the depiction of what we call as "feminine strenght" and their relationships with men.
In conclusion: fuck Shadows of Valentia. Fuck Alm. Fuck Berkut. And fuck its director Kozaki and his stupid fetish for evil women with hyperdetailed armpits.
No. 411511
>>411431>Kozaki He didn't work on Echoes. And thank god someone has the exact same opinion as me on this shit game. I bought it on sales and I still feel ripped off to this day. It was a waste of my time, the art looks ok but not that amazing, the story sucks ass and I've been told the original FE2 isn't nearly as sexist as Echoes and doesn't make Celica look like a braindead damsel in distress nearly as often, the voice acting is in English unless you get a Japanese copy and it sucks ass, and the dialogs are fully voiced so it makes cutscenes long and annoying so I had to mute the characters in the settings, and the gameplay sucks. The moment I saw that people who shit talked FE Fates loved Echoes I should have known I would hate Echoes. At least Fates has a bunch of fun female characters who don't have a low IQ and for the ones who dislike Camilla for being a fanservice yandere at least she has a direct male counterpart in that aspect who's even more mentally ill than her and who also shows his butt cheeks in one of the DLCs, Ryoma.
>Oh, this impaling happens after the worst offender in the game: Berkut's death.Before I played Echoes I just kept seeing people saying Berkut and Rinea had such an emotional tragic love story, not exaggeration, and wtf do I see? Domestic violence. At least the director/writer is right when he says he was depicting the differences between men and women with this shit game, Berkut being a violent,
abusive, megalomaniac retard who murders his fiancee and Rinea being way too fucking nice and still forgiving him after killing her and selling her soul to satan without her wanting any of that seems pretty close to what I see on the news and in crime stats. I doubt that was intentional.
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>>290723I love the art style, character design, music and voice acting of the game. But the story sucks absolute arse and I hate how the female characters are treated. Faye has such a cute design but it’s wasted on her being such a nothing character.
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>>287923I want to raise my hand and say that I kiiiind of agree. I like the wish fullfillment part of the moving castle base, it's comfy, but I wish the story was darker so it would feel nicer to have such a comfy base
Anyway, I will however stan my favourite archer who happens to be from this game. I think Awakenings characters were more varied and had less 'joke' characters than FE3H, and also this archer is the cutest. Trap-kun was so cute that I keep him on my team even though he's shit.
I hear the localization removed the gender differences for the romance scenes tho, is this true?
No. 417857
>>417855Yes it’s true for Fates, as for Engage, I’m not sure they were different at all. I haven’t looked into its Japanese version because I much prefer Louis in english and he is one of my favorites.
Alcryst the best btw. I ship him with Fogado.
>>417856You can play it with a pirated 3DS but I can’t help you with that, sorry. Also I remember there were two uncensored versions, one had a laughably bad amateurish fan translation with many missing supports and the other has the NOA english script but with some scenes tweaked to resemble the Japanese original.