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No. 267505
As a lifelong weeb, those were some of my favorite threads, so let's revive it. Discuss everything wrong with anime, be it modern or tales as old as times.
Pre/m/assacre
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The absolute drop in quality of the animation itself. The industry is so coomer-filled now that they don't give two fucks if the animation is sloppy, or the physics makes no sense. As long as their loli's face (especially the eyes, the eyes are always the most detailed part of the whole thing) looks great, who cares?
No. 267561
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>>267508this so much. Is it because of its marketability towards self-inserting coomers? It’s boring and cringe af and not in a fun, but overdone and braindead way. everytime I see yet another one of those horny mc titles I have to think about some director doing a pitch session with an author for the next publishing, going like
>hmmm, a series about [concept] in a unique setting- next>ah, let’s see.. a series about [concept] in a unique setting with a female mc who’s endgame is not to end up with some guy, but to be strong on her own- next>hmmm, a series about [concept] in a unique setting, but with a horny teenage mc and girls who function as some sort of harem regardless of if they like the mc or not? deal! No. 267652
Personal opinion, but when traditional animation all but died so did quality. Traditional animation feels like it holds more weight in the frame and the dissonance between characters and the background was less. Animation that isn’t traditional seems to have a more plastered on vibe, like everything else except for the characters is an afterthought and the characters were just dragged into the shot. Idk seems like more effort was put in before computer animation did the heavy lifting. Also the rate of series being pumped out thus less quality makes hand drawn animation feel more substantial and important now.
>>267510Agree 100%, anime has always been a consumerist culture but buyfagging has changed the industry for the worst. Allowing tiddy monsters to be regularly made into figures is depleting the quality of series and frankly the artistry of figures themselves. Anime was a mistake and fans ruined it by demanding so much out of creators and studios they are pulling shortcuts for the bottom line.
No. 267742
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Anime has been on the decline ever since yaoibait mecha anime stopped being made, at least on a more major scale. But fujo autism aside, what the fuck happened to anime?
>Be me, long term anime autist
>Goes to see what anime's airing this season since i'm never caught up on seasonal anime
>Isekai, shounenshit, video game adaptation, coomershit, moar isekai, FOTM waifubait, moeshit, retarded boring romance anime, even more fucking isekai and other new seasons of irrelevant anime.
>wtf.mp3
The anime industry is dead, and moids useless sperm cells killed it.
No. 267743
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>>267742the isekai spam makes me miss the cute girl do cute thing and SOL trend of the 00s. Though, i am very happy of SOL evolving from cute girls do cute things to cute girls do cute retarded club activity, its my favourite genre of animu. I just love autistic characters. I need to watch DIY and the Yuru Camp of fishing
No. 267756
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>>267749> Ot but I've always assumed that only men liked this, not trying to accuse you of not being one anon but I'm genuinely baffled that there is a female public for thisthe most succesful moe anime are made by women. Moe anime was kinda dying out since the new ''otaku genre'' was isekai, but its resurging like the phoenix thanks to anime like yuru camp.
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>>267510>>267652these posts, kind of. i really despise cgi. i know why it's used – because animators are overworked and have to meet deadlines – but i also feel like most people in the industry can't name a single scene that
employs cgi as the thing that got them interested in animation.
i mean you go into animation to animate, right…? not play with mikumikudance.
lack of creativity also gets me. i don't even flub them too hard for that though (because why take a risk on something people might not even like when you can just create moeblob show #1239021 or fujo sports b8 #12031203912 and rake in enough $$$ to keep yourself afloat until next season) but if you're creating crap with a cookie-cutter plot And subpar visuals…it's just sad.
i count stuff like csm – arguably most of mappa's shonen adaptions – as boring btw. yeahhh sure the fights run at 60 fps and everything's all glossy and professional-looking but it's absolutely dull to see. do something cool with framing or experiment with angles, idk, i'm not the artist
No. 267783
>>267652AYRT and I just wanna say
>Personal opinion, but when traditional animation all but died so did quality.I totally fucking agree with this.
No. 267804
>>267788get her. ignites my autism when nonas speak on anime without knowing what the fuck they're talking about.
like i don't enjoy moids either but the most "successful moe anime" are made by them. k-on, lucky star, clannad, azumanga daioh…kek, all men
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>>267774I went to read CSM after a few nonnies defended it here and it's literally babies first edgy shonen manga. It is full of coombait, except the mangaka is pushing his femdom fetish on us. Still there's no lack of the usual perverted titty shots.
I can't believe women here are denying that? I don't care if you like the manga, it's totally possible to like it and be honest about what it is, but this blatant lying about how it's actually deep and deconstructive is baffling.
No. 267825
>>267822>it's actually deep and deconstructive is baffling.nobody said that. but to imply it is
nothing but a coomb8 manga because of a few sexually charged scenes is very dishonest to its theming. like i don't even see how you could see this scene you've posted and not feel uncomfortable, provided you've Actually read the manga (which you probably haven't)
also if you automatically associate a woman in power with 'femdom' then that's an issue with you
>it's literally babies first edgy shonen mangasays the anon who more than likely got into animanga like, a year ago. don't even care if this is b8 or not, manifesting curses upon you. endless curses. kys
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>>267825>few sexually charged scenes is very dishonest to its themingDenji is literally a protagonist driven by coom and his whole situation with Reze is yet another example of that. Dude's driven by it.
>like i don't even see how you could see this scene you've posted and not feel uncomfortable, provided you've Actually read the mangaThis only makes sense if you're reading the manga for the second time or after certain reveals, still explains the fact that Makimas whole character is just one big fetish in "disguise". I like her but let's be honest to ourselves.
>also if you automatically associate a woman in power with 'femdom' then that's an issue with youFujimoto confirmed it himself, he literally has a femdom fetish.
He references Tarantino for god's sake, you really think he's above including his fetishes everywhere? He's an unironic filmbro kek
No. 267831
>>267830>this is really telling in how skewed your perception is.Now you sound like those 14 year old girls that post blatantly sexualized videos but accuse adult women of being pervy if they point it out kek
I'm just doing the most basic 2+2 and I'm not even the first one to say this or notice this. You unironically used the term manifesting and told me to kill myself over what, a shonen manga written by a scrote? Get over yourself.
No. 267832
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The isekai genre has always brought me comfort but I feel like the newer ones are incredibly devoid of imagination or actual effort. I have a hard time believing no one can come up with a decent story that does not feature a neet as the mc or a very badly done harem. I haven't seen another Inuyasha, Fushigi Yugi, Magic Knight Rayearth, Twelve Kingdoms, Escaflowne, Digimon (1st one) or .Hack in ages, all new isekais have little to no story with almost no world building and are full of undeveloped characters that you couldn't care less if they die. At this point I'm not sure if it's just the nostalgia glasses
Another thing, I can't pinpoint exactly when I started noticing this trend where anime decided we are all dumb and can't comprehend it if they do not repeat it to you for the next 10 episodes. Character has a new move? be prepared because they will explain in detail over and over. Character hates someone? They will tell you every 5 minutes why.
No. 267838
>>267833>waste of time to discuss anything because there's zero reasoning and substance behind your opinionsHow is that? I posted my proof, while nobody else bothered countering it. I'm not even fully hating on csm, I just wish people weren't so disingenuous about it.
It's kind of Denji's whole shtick to be a guy who only wants simple things in life, aka the bottom pyramid tier of Maslow's hierarchy of needs - food, sex, a roof over his head. That is indeed a dude driven by coom, like the first post in this thread stated. It's a plot point in the manga more than once, am I lying?
No. 267865
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>>267831This reminds me of that one time when twitter libfems were defending Hackimoto's decision to put Asa in her underwear during her fight with Yuko. Anyone who called him out was getting accused of being a misogynist and sexualizing female bodies. They even went as far as to praise him for giving her a "realistic" body type and underwear. Fujimoto dickriders are simply incapable of realizing that CSM is no better than the average shounenshit.
No. 267867
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>>267865You don't get it
nonnie, you see moments like these are very important to the theme and the overarching motif of Denji's coming of age and understanding what love is… Without having half naked women Fujimoto wouldn't be able to get his point across properly and you have some serious internalized misogyny for daring to point it out.
How dare you not be happy with the scrote providing us with realistic female bodies to ogle at?
People's standards for shonen really are in the gutter, huh.
No. 267868
>>267865A minority group on twitter has a bad take, the horror. I'm glad I'm not a twitterfag, that site makes people crazy.
>>267867>looking for story standards in shounenMost shounens are only worth reading because of the various different characters.
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>>267788it died down A LOT, there is still one or two per season but outside of Yuru Camp most of those attempts were failures commercially and the otaku public shifted towards isekai.
>>267804you clearly dont know much about moe. Most moe anime adaptations are from kirara magazine, their biggest and most sucessful adaptations(outside of k-on)? hidamari sketch, made by a woman. There is also Yuru Yuri which was also created by a woman and one of the very few moe anime to have more than 2 seasons. There is also blend s, also from kirara magazine and made by a woman. There are probably way more but i havent read or watched them yet. Clannad was also illustrated by a woman and is a group effort, kek. I dont know why there is such a prejudice against moe here, its just dumb fun and its has less fanservice than your general shonenshit.
No. 267975
>>267838you're not lying, but your view of it differs pretty heavily from mine and seems driven by a need to be contrarian. or is otherwise a whiny moralfag complaint like, "durr boobs bad". i mean i won't deny that fan-service exists – it's a manga for men, by a man, kind of expected – but i thought denji's desires were so superficial because he was a poor teenager who spent most of his life in misery. it's less "he just wanna coom ooga booga basic needs" and more "he is seeking an idealized version of happiness/what he thinks is happiness". to many people that's a romantic partner.
like i recall a scene where he's eating toast with jam (for the first time) and he isn't normal about it, he uses like ten different types + a lot of butter because he thinks excess = luxury, good taste. it's important to try and engage with media on its own terms imo
>>267826okay. and the author of fma loves buff men, so she includes a lot of shirtless buff men in her manga. are you really trying to say it's wrong to include some elements of what you're attracted to in your work
"coombait" implies it's an ecchi series or something. it isn't
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>>267742It's because Kadokawa funds these iseakishit novel adaptations:
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2021-11-02/kadokawa-anime-producers-want-isekai-to-take-over-the-world/.179109I don't even know who watched these lesser-know titles; they seem to exist solely as adverts of the source material, but who would even buy the books?
No. 285006
>>267831Really, don't expect someone who unironically thinks that (rightfully) hating on male degeneracy is "moralfagging" and therefore bad, and who watches moeshit on a regular basis, to get why other women may have a problem with the way girls are depicted in moid media
>>267868>>looking for story standards in shounen>Most shounens are only worth reading because of the various different characters.NTA but she didn't say anything about "story" so nice deflection. Which just goes on to prove how your standards for shounen really are in the gutter. You can enjoy it and all, we all enjoy some stuff that's objectively crap, but lying about its quality and defending it to death is pretty lame and it's what the nona was getting at.