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No. 24328
>>24319I don't get why non-euro countries were even allowed to participate in the first place.
>>24326Jesus, yes it really is not that deep, no need to be so dramatic, you act as if they're little children getting their ice cream stolen. Most israelis probably couldn't care less.
No. 24363
>>24328They get to participate just because they're members of EBU. I don't get what's the point of it being "euro"vision if literally anyone can participate (like Australia, wtf).
Anyway, as usual, Finland's song is bad. I thought they'd do something more special now that they got Darude to perform but nah. Same outdated generic shit.
No. 24376
>>24363it feels like the absolute legend status of darude is wasted on the song, the dude sounds like he struggles to keep a melody at points
:-/ our entry (latvia) i think is alright but also no way is it getting out of semis. as per usual.
No. 24411
>>24381As another Croat I bet we wont even pass the semies.
And who the fuck voted for this its so boring. I honestly think it was a set up
No. 24493
>>24381I actually was talking about esc with my best friend and she said both her and her bf liked it.But yeah the song is pretty forgettable and those wings are the tackiest I've seen since Azerbaijan's entry in 2008.How does the
my frIEEEEEEEND guy got involved in this?
>>24399Whatever involves avant-garde god Conan Osiris and anti-capitalist BDSM kings Hatari is top tier.And Slovenia's song is pretty nice imo so yeah,good taste anon
No. 24556
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>>24493>How does the my frIEEEEEEEND guy got involved in this?Jacques is his mentor. Those tacky wings and shitty song concept were his idea. When Roko won and was giving a speech, Jacques forced himself in the spotlight, as if he was the one who won.
No. 24594
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so madonna is officially going to perform in the esc(i heard it a few days ago but it was just on april fools so i didnt take it seriously).i mean,it's nice and all,but it feels weird having someone who doesnt even really know or care about esc perform there.she and timberlake just do so to promote their songs.(i know it's all business but it just feels wrong idk)
No. 24684
https://youtu.be/pEaS6atxFgcI'm so mad at my country, it sounded pretty good when he won, giving a ska vibe, but they totally ruined it afterwards, muting the instruments and turning it into a shitty summer song.
My favorites are Norway and Iceland. I also hope Portugal passes the semifinals, it will be a wonderful meme material.
No. 24776
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>>24571>Like isn't he an asshole who is unlikable in general and thinks highly of himself?Yup, only thing bigger than his body is his ego.
No. 24884
>>24594Does she at least have a British passport? idk I'm kind of annoyed that we have to shoehorn US artists into our little shitty
Eurovision song contest.
>>24684I still like it anon. Do you have a version that was more ska?
>>24716Conchita had more personality.
>>24316>I'm tired, tired of always losingMe too, blonde chick, me too.
No. 24908
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>>24884>Does she at least have a British passport? idk I'm kind of annoyed that we have to shoehorn US artists into our little shitty Eurovision song contest.I read she has been living in Portugal for a while and she was asked to perform last year and she acted all bitchy and stuff because she wasnt allowed to shoot something she wanted and called the portuguese "ungrateful" or something.The only reason she is even going to perform this year is because some millionaire offered lots of money and she wants to promote her new song.Otherwise Im sure she doesnt give a shit
>>24699tbh I find this song adorable even if it isn't one of my favourites.I didnt expect to like it as much as I do
>no wonder we ranked up a bit higher when we sent a literal joke contestantimo the big five should just not give a fuck and send whatever wacky shit they can think of since there's no concern about qualifying to the finals or not if they don't plan to send an actually interesting song.also by "joke contestant" do you mean legendary
it's one of my fav crazy entries of all time No. 25015
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>>24908I LIVE for tacky Eurovision craziness like Chikilicuatre, Verka Serduchka, the vampire lord Cezar, the unfatomably cringey British airline commercial from 2007 or even Lordi. I miss the bizzare songs! Last years have been so boring in that respect and I am not sure if we will ever get contestants putting on a kitschy show on. I am disappointed in general with heavy reliance on the screens instead of props. Where my gold chariots with roman soldiers at?
No. 25017
>>25015Same.
I feel since Conchita Wurst won a few years ago with doing this ~dramatic~ ballad thing, everybody tries since then to recreate this or seriously try to make it their huge step into the music world, which didn't really worked since ABBA.
Anyways, here is my personal fave german entry, from 2000.
No. 25288
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just leaving this here kek
No. 25290
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>>25015same anon.also honorable mentions to latvia's pirates of the sea, dustin the turkey ,svetlana loboda ,the russian grannies,that one time germany sent an act featuring dita von teese etc
i believe that with the involvement of the jury in the votes,the wackiness of the entries decrease since jury tanks such entries.for me,the best years were the early 00's till 2008 where the jury was barely involved and we had iconic entries like chikiliquatre,verka and the like.such songs would probably not even pass the semis now.im not even sure if winners like sertab,ruslana and helena paparizou and lordi would do as well as they did if the juries were a thing back then
(also attached pic of an underrated iconic act)
No. 25340
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>>25290>that one time germany sent an act featuring dita von teese etcGlad I am not the only one who remembers that! I was surprised they did not score very high.
Thanks for explaining why Eurovision got so boring, I blamed it all on tech but that was clearly not the only source of the problem.
Does anyone remember the year when France sent a band of mummies walking on stilts?
No. 25389
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I just want everyone to stop caring about looking serious and start sending the wackiest shit, pic related and the Russian grandmas were some of my faves
No. 25424
>>25389I'd care more about Eurovision if it wasn't just an endless barrage of boring ballads and generic pop shit. I've never heard anyone talk about the dime in a dozen ballads years later, people will only remember the weird stuff.
I'm really disappointed with Finland's song, and especially the show. It's so fucking bland. I guess we're just back to being pussies and not trying anything remotely special.
No. 25535
>>25340I wonder how it isn't part of the weird cool acts ppl tend to remember every year.it was too good and somehow it hasnt stayed in ppl's minds.also this was a pretty nice way to have an american in the show without them being shoehorned into it
coughmadonna
coughjustin timberlake
coughi mean,i GUESS this is the reason for the decline of weird quirky music.i think the jury was brought back because there was a "decline" in the quality of music and the jury would prevent it from happening.and now esc is full of "radio friendly music" which kinda sucks.i loved that most songs used to be something you wouldn't normally hear on the radio
>Does anyone remember the year when France sent a band of mummies walking on stilts?actually no.when did this happen?i watch the contest since 2004 and i dont remember something like that
>>25485europe wasnt ready for slavko.(tbh he isnt that good of a singer and his stage presence was extremely lacking.the only thing he had was his helicopter weave.other than that i liked his song and i found him very likable)
btw since this is the 2019 thread,what do you think about maruv?it really sucks she had to withdraw from the contest this way.do you think she would do well?(most likely but idk about the juries)
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Anybody remember the German weeb? What she's up to nowadays? Is she still a weeaboo?
No. 26610
>>25389Man, I miss Verka Serduchka. That's how you do a proper ESC number.
I did really enjoy Netta's song last year, though, it was both catchy and kind of weird which is what makes the competition for me. I hope ESC will eventually circle back to the more crazy, wacky songs at some point. The years after Lordi's win in 2006 were some of my favourites.
No. 30704
>>30698I'm so fucking embarrassed. Is this really how we wanted to present our country.
If he's so keen on those wings which he had to enlarge, why not pull off a Sephiroth look? Mid song he gets one wing broken and turns the song into a metal one, then he assumes a fallen angel role.
No. 31333
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today is the day!you know who you're gonna vote for(and also portugal and australia)
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Really hope that Iceland at least makes it to top 10, them winning the competition could spark some really interesting entries next year.
No. 31419
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just came here to say that im pissed portugal didnt pass.it was all beautiful and amazing and THATS WHAT HE GETS?
No. 31453
>>31410>>31413I don't get why you are so against Slovenia?
Out of all the finalists, Slovenia and Iceland were decent. Czech Republic, Estonia, and Cyprus were literal forgettable generic trash.
No. 31487
>>25290InCulto! Miss them. The lead singer tried to get in again this year but lost in the final 8.
>>26020The reason why he won was because the girl who was favourite to win had two songs in the national selection, pulled out the better one right before the final and told everyone to vote for the weaker one, then got fucked in the voting and Jurijus won instead. It was a glorious self wreck.
>>31411Honestly I can see them getting a good amount of votes from the public but idk if the jury will like them.
No. 31643
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this semi sucked. and Lazarevs song last year was better than this one imo but at least we have the memes. only one I sorta liked was Denmark but like not enough to vote for it you know? if Iceland doesn't win on Saturday I'll be angepisst!
No. 31783
>>31643i knew it would be boring so i barely watched it.the memes about it were better than the semi itself.the only country i liked was azerbaijan since the song was ok and they had the cool visuals with the robots.i would love to see iceland win but idk if the juries will let that happen
also australia seems to be pretty high with the bookmakers atm.it's a surely more interesting song than most of the (generic) favourites but idk how i would feel if they actually won
No. 31786
>>31643It was worse than the first semi but most the favourites were in this one? Idgi. At least Russia bought the dramatics, some these singers didn't even have staging.
I still don't understand why Netherlands is fav to win the final either.
No. 31916
>>31911lol what do you expect from people singing "hate will prevail".
Farmers drooling over them were disgusting smh. They brought fucking BDSM shit to a family show. I don't know how the Eurovision team or even Iceland allowed that display of fetish and depravation on stage, ugh.
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LMAO WHO LET THE TUMBLR CLOWNS IN
No. 31919
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holy shit that was brutal
poor sweden
No. 31928
>>31916the message is the opposite and the song is more like a warning rather than a statement.regarding BDSM,they don't present it as a sexual thing but I get why someone would.and I cant call esc a "family show" for many reasons tbh. Maruv would be also sexual if she participated(well probably)
>>31921it was a battle between boring and boring though so
No. 31931
>>31930I didn't notice Madonna till people started talking about it.Funny how they payed her millions and she did this
I hated how obviously political the jury vote was. Like they are partly there to supposedly prevent this
No. 31944
>>31911That was completely unnecessary, what are they, 12?
I'm also glad Sweden didn't win, he seemed so sure he would and there's something about his smugness that made it extra sweet.
The Dutch song was boring but still better than the top five in the finals.
No. 31945
>>31915>>31916I just liked them because they were doing something different. I'm sick of the same ballads every year, people who don't sing a ballad really stand out.
>>31930Wow I did not notice that. I guess it wasn't that effective if most people didn't even see it. Such an insult after her speech beforehand about music uniting us, which has always been the main goal of the Eurovision. I thought she really got it but I guess I was wrong. This is the same woman who a few years ago was calling herself an "Israelite" back when she was studying the Kabbalah just a few years ago. Guess Islam is trendier than red bracelets this year lmao.
No. 31947
>>31944>That was completely unnecessary, what are they, 12?In their country there was a petition to boycott this year's contest by not participating.The reason many people accepted their participation was because of the message of the song and they fact they were pro-Palestine.They represented their country's opinion on the matter
>>31945I saw people saying that it was intentional and set up by Israel because the people who had the Israeli and Palestinian flags on their backs were hugging each other.As in wishing to resolve the conflict and be peaceful.If it was intentional,it was done in a more discreet way than what Hatari did
No. 31949
>>31947Then they shouldn't have participated at all. If a host welcomes you with open arms and treats you nicely then return the favour. What they did was extremely rude, immature and if that reflects Iceland's population then I have a very low opinion of Icelanders now.
Waving a flag doesn't do anything, it doesn't actually improve a thing. It's just virtue signalling by the same people who were waving lgbt, tranny flags so a group of people who would be murdered by the Palestinians they oh so dearly love. Involving politics and creating division is strictly against the Eurovision rules and it's despicable to see so many people applauding it.
No. 31953
>>31949even though hatari were supported about their participation,there were indeed people who preferred withdrawing.The group said that the act of just participating in a country who is under conflict is political itself either if one voices their opinion or not.
I agree that putting out banners like that was probably too much,but considering their statements during the contest,I wasn't surprised.Even one of the dancers wasn't aware about them putting out banners and she seemingly wasn't too happy about doing so. Hatari's goal as a group is to create discussion and bring attention to the matter (just fyi,I'm just stating all these as facts according to what they've said in interviews.How
valid one can think all these are is up to them)
>Involving politics and creating division is strictly against the Eurovision rules and it's despicable to see so many people applauding itI think it's time for all of us to accept that Eurovision is political no matter what the rules state. Jamala won with a song that was basically calling out killing her ancestors in Crimea.This year North Macedonia got lots of votes from juries purely because of politics and it showed when they tanked in the public vote.There are many examples of politics in the contest but I'm honestly not that knowledgeable on them and those are just the two that came on top of my head.
I would love it if Eurovision was actually apolitical but this doesn't seem to be the case.
No. 31961
Germany, UK, Spain, why don't we just quit participating? It's such a gigantic waste of (tax payers!) money. We're the ones funding the most, yet never win anything. It's quite clear how the rest of europe thinks about us, so why do we continue to do this? Yes the songs were lame, but so were others. Difference is, they have friends who nevertheless give them points no matter what.
I have some italian friends and holy shit, that contest means a lot to them. Like for some reason it's seen as something genuinely important there. And it's obviously the same for many other countries as well.
I really wished they'd just stop.
Anyway, I liked that Iceland was petty enough to pull that move lol I don't really see it as that political, I think they really just did it as "punishment" for not getting more points, which is kind of funny.
I wanted either them or Norway with that weird bald dude in leather to win. Having to see some sad boy with a punchable face and boring voice sing a ballad we seemingly had to hear a dozen times already is just so tiring.
>>31944>he seemed so sure he would and there's something about his smugness that made it extra sweet.This lol
I don't know if it's because he's black but the song, the performance and his 'Mama' background singers just gave of such a typical american feel, that it became completely unlikable immediately. Like it was just such a generic song and it's obvious that the jury tried to push him. God knows why.
I think it would be better if they were only public votes.
No. 31964
>>31955Absolutely loved this part.
>>31953I agree that it's hard to ignore the fact that ESC is political. Me and my friends just see it as extra entertainment now. Iceland's stunt was hilarious to us, would have given them extra votes if we could.
That being said, the political part is funniest when it's subtle.
No. 31965
>>31961Okay but when is the last time Germany, UK or Spain sent a Eurovision winning song? When was the last time any effort was made?
Take the UK:
The guy dressed like he was about to go shopping not for a event that has 200+ million viewers.
He had a bland, forgettable song. Netherlands won with a ballad, but the difference was that Netherlands sounded current and actually had parts that hooked you. UK entry was a dumpster fire of nothing.
He didn't even had an interesting stage to make the song seem better.
The song didn't even make the top 75 in the UK chart. Why should anyone else like it when the country he is representing doesn't even like it?
Absolutely no effort was made. Absolutely no effort has been made for years. If they are going to make the biggest financial contributions, why not act like they want to do well? Also lmao acting like Ireland, UK and lesser extent Malta don't always give each other points.
Iceland absolutely was political are you blind. You think a self desrcibed "anti capitalist" group that had an agenda known to ESC before they even got to Israel showed a Palestine flag cos they got pissed they didn't win? I don't even think they even went to win. They went as a protest entry.
I agree with your Sweden take though. It didn't sound European, it sounded like American pop-gospel.
Juries all want radio friendly hits, devoid of individuality, which is why they constantly year after year push Sweden in the voting. Sweden have been getting worse since Mans won. The public tend to go for more ethnic and European sounding music, hence why Norway did so well and Sweden got considerably less votes than the jury. Or they go for something that is different, hence why Iceland got so many more public than jury votes. The blatant pushing of Sweden by juries pisses me off tbh. The jury def tried to make sure that countries like Norway didn't win. Norway won the semi final public vote. They were denied a retake of their jury final performance after they had technical difficulties, which I think is unreasonable. They didn't announce that Norway were the winners of the public vote, even though they always announced the public vote winner the past few years. The way they announced the public vote was whack and they fully expected Sweden to make loads of public votes with the way they dragged out that Netherlands v Sweden showdown, only for it to be an anticlimactic 93 pt BTFO moment. Norway weren't going to win against Netherlands but they didn't even get to feel the excitement of knowing they scored the highest public vote.
The public need to keep denying Swedish mediocrity otherwise they'd be constantly winning.
No. 31974
>>31965>Okay but when is the last time Germany, UK or Spain sent a Eurovision winning song? When was the last time any effort was made?I believe that they don't send interesting songs that have potential to win since paying for esc each year is expensive enough and hosting would cost even more.Not an excuse not to try a bit harder to send something more memorable though
it sucks Norway didn't win.I would love to see more ethic songs back in ESC like there used to be
No. 31987
>>31949> who would be murdered by the Palestinians they oh so dearly lovelmao what? I know this is lc but do you seriously think that all palestinians are hardcore muslims? They're mostly people who get killed and get their land stolen. I'm not even a 100% pro palestine or anything, I think Israel is a legitimate state but your opinion is just straight up stupid.
Also if you think orthodox jewish people are more open to homosexuality than rando muslims, you're delusional?
No. 31992
>>31965I hated the fact that Norway winning the public vote was completely ignored just because the jury didn't like them. Also really unprofessional of them to not let Norway perform again after technical difficulties that were not the artists' fault.
I am sad that there seems to be less and less music influenced by the country's culture as the years go by. Norway and Albania were the only ones that had more than just a generic western club music vibe to it.
>>31955Madonna should have been the opening act for the switch song performance tbh. She was the worst performance of all this year.
No. 31995
>>31987Just it is. There's probably a small negligible percentage of Palestinians that aren't hardcore muslisms. Statistically 85% of Palestinians on the West Bank alone are muslim and they belong to the Shafi'i branch which yes, proclaims that any gay should be killed. So spare me your bullshit and read facts first if you want to pretend to sound smart and impartial.
> orthodox jewsI never said anything about orthodox jews and I do know that they have similar opinions on homosexuality, just I haven't heard of them hunting down gay people and pushing them off buildings.
No. 32005
>>31995And you really believe that all those 85% are hardcore homophobes? Do you also think that anyone who ID's as Christian is a hardcore homophobe ?
Also you're right, I'm not impartial in this debate because I'm literally a jew (altho secular) from a euro country that has a lot of antisemite history but I'm also tired of people dismissing ANY criticism of Israel's actions or anything remotely pro-palestinian.
Especially your remarks on homophobia because while the jewish community where I live is very liberal, most of the people I met in Israel were very much anti gay-rights yet some of my best friends are muslims and none of them has ever shown any sign of homophobia.
No. 32022
>>32005We're talking about muslims practicing Islam by the book not muslims that mix and match what they like in a secular country. If you lived in Israel then you would have known that.
Anyone can be a homophone but we're talking when it's accepted and enforced in a society to have gay people killed. Yeah, no shit some people hate gays, some people hate blacks, some people hate vegans, some people hate Christians but it's against the law to kill them or any group of people in most civilized countries.
Also, the Palestinian organization PACBI dismissed Hatari's act. The Palestinians made an appeal to performers to boycott Eurovision. Performing there for whatever reasons (including the lame excuse about being heard and totally not because it makes for good advertising) is seen as pro Israel.
No. 32023
>>31992> I am sad that there seems to be less and less music influenced by the country's culture as the years go bySame. I think one reason for this is that ESC is being sanitised. The introduction of this 50% jury vote has killed off the "weird" acts winning. It has also killed off the chances of an "ethnic" act winning too since the jury made up of writers who just want safe, generic, marketable pop songs.
And a lot of people are writing songs for multiple acts. The guy who represented Sweden is on the writing credits for the UK track for example. Jury + lack of diversity in writers is making the competition narrowminded.