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I love Bauhaus so much. I’m seeing them live in a few weeks. I love their more dark and gothic material, but also enjoy their songs that are full of inside jokes and meme tier shit. Each member is so unique and gorgeous in their own way. I’ve always had a massive crush on Daniel Ash. He’s a fashion icon and still has great onstage presence. I can’t wait to see them all live!
Tasteful Morrissey nipple flash.>>224605
I'm so excited for you! And I think it's great that it's the original four playing together too. That's rare to come by in a lot of long-established bands. I think they're playing in my city too, but my work hours are weird so I'm not sure I'd be able to get off in time to make it. I'd say I'm a Bauhaus casual, but I've really only listened to the first two albums and then a few singles here and there. I'm curious by what you mean about the meme tier songs though kek.
Idk about meme tier but I like The Three Shadows where you (yes you) become a fish and drink other fish's piss. Choose between this and water, choose between tin and piss.
Do you still feel thirsty now?
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Do they count if I think their best work was in the 80s? Isn't Anything and the two EP's before Loveless I always thought were far better.
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I miss the 80s even though I never experienced them
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Based Depecheanon. I can't wait until Fall comes. It always puts me in the mood for watching horror movies and listening to spooky Bauhaus and Killing Joke tunes.>>224650
Me too. It all seemed like so much fun. Maybe I still would have been a total shut-in in the 80s, but at least I would have had enjoyed the music more. There was a crazy amount of good music that came out in those years.
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I really apologize for sperging. I did my best to sum up the lore, but I probably missed a lot of stuff. Everyone else please avert your eyes.
Vince Clarke>Founding member>Wrote most of their lyrics and tunes in the early days>Left after their first album Speak&Spell. I think moreso due to creative differences than any sort of ill will between any of the band members.>Most of the lyrics he wrote for DM are kind of nonsensical and were just written to fit the tune of the song. DM members (mostly Dave kek) admitted to 1) not knowing what the songs were about and 2) being embarrassed about the weird lyrics.
Dave Gahan>Looked like an eighth grader for the first few years and then suddenly got super hot in the mid-80s onward>Iconic dancing (he said he initially started doing the dancing because he felt he needed to grab the audience's attention since the other members were standing behind keyboards… and look how it's evolved)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1_pRoB8RU&ab_channel=supernova>Almost died three times and actually died once and then was resuscitated by paramedics in the 90s>Had a taint piercing once>Likes attention. Even said that he used to act out as a kid (would steal cars and shit) because he liked the attention it got him.
Martin Gore>Known for being very, very shy (unless drunk)>Submissive (obviously)>Also known for being the most androgynous of the group. He's retroactively embarrassed by it and doesn't talk about it presently.>Likes being in the nude. Sung the vocals for "Somebody" while completely naked>Also apparently his dad was African-American, which isn't that relevant but I thought that was really random and surprising
Andrew Fletcher (Andy/Fletch)>His role (and usefulness) to the group has been widely debated and discussed>A founding member and Martin's friend from school. In the early days of the band, he would speak on Martin's behalf for a lot of things since Martin was so shy.>Likes bananas and the dish Toast Hawaii>The only one in the group who got married only once kek>Struggled badly with depression, especially in the 90s (that was a rough time for all of them)>Passed away very recently rip
Alan Wilder>Joined the band shortly after Vince left and is arguably the one who helped DM get their iconic sound. Typically, Martin would write the lyrics and melody for the songs and then Alan would handle the sound production (with some exceptions obviously) >Sassy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVN10vhK0gc&t=231s&ab_channel=B.B (this interview is required viewing for Alan lore)>Left DM in the mid-90s. The division of labor was getting pretty bad and he would often end up doing a lot of the work so I think he was burnt out.>Has his own project called Recoil. He also has a website for it with an extensive q+a section and some of it is honestly pretty funny (mostly unintentional)
Additional lore (god I'm so sorry)>Their concert at the Pasadena Rose Bowl in 1988 is regarded as one of their most iconic live shows>They were really ambitious about trying to promote as much as possible, so in the early days they'd interview for basically any magazine or go on any program that would have them. Consequently, they have a lot of cringe videos from the early 80s like the chicken video up thread.>Their early music videos are also the same way>They really like to play foosball when they're on tour
Sorry nona I'm sure this was way more than you cared to learn.
a heavenly favorite!
you might like ‘ella megalast burls forever’, ‘spooning good, singing gum’ and ‘fluffy tufts’ these tracks are all floaty but abit more uptempo and bright
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>>224701>>Looked like an eighth grader for the first few years
A little kid at a school presentation
I thought the Speak and Spell lyrics made sense, compared to other bands I listen to whose lyrics really
don't make sense. Maybe they didn't like how kind of gay some of the songs sounded? Idk
I didn't know Vince was responsible for much of the first album and then left, I was wondering why that kind of sound expired in the other albums. I like the sound of the first album, not gonna lie.
Anyway I don't know which one to stan but thank you for the lore breakdown
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Anyone here like Japan/David Sylvian? please I need more pics
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Sometimes when I'm upset, I looks at pics of young David Sylvian
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Samefag, probably my fave pic
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Samefag again, here is a reaction pic
i love the b-52's too, as much as i love love shack and roam their music in the late 70s/early 80s was far superior. wild planet is such an overlooked album imo. ricky wilson's guitar riffs are so iconic. my mom's original b-52's albums from their self titled album to the mesopotamia EP that david byrne produced are my most prized music posessions.
sage for sperg
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I've just been getting into Japan nona! David Sylvian had such an awesome look. I don't have many pictures to contribute though, but I appreciate yours (and that reaction pic is gold kek)
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Just recently got into Japan. Ever since I discovered them I’ve been looking at pictures of Mick Karn daily. He was so talented and beautiful.
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No worries, I enjoyed Speak&Spell too. I listen to Tora! Tora! Tora! all the time. It's funny they also talked about how 'It's Called a Heart' is one of their least favorite songs because it's too poppy and reminiscent of their old sound, but I like that song too. To be fair, they had a lot of frustration with not being taken seriously by the press for being more naive in those early years so maybe they were just really desperate to distance themselves from that era. And I think they all had moments where they were very cute, so any member you latch on to is a good one (to my knowledge at least).
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The neighbor's kid offering you a snack
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Sylvian enjoyers unite. Bonus Ryuichi
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I’ve only recently started listening to The Smiths a few months ago and holy shit, Morrissey was so hot. I’m kicking myself for not getting into them much sooner.
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Fuck you redditor, let me yearn a bit for this specific period of music
Of course I didn't mean it literally
Just go into a record store, though they can be overpriced but sometimes you can find something really good for really cheap. Or go on discogs, vinyls can be cheaper there. It's not very intimidating, though I did get a bit of a headstart with my dad's collection and how vinyls make good birthday and holiday gifts lol>>224922
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No one cares about these pedestrian takes.
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Better late than never! The Smiths are timeless. They have so many great songs and Morrissey's lyrics are so wickedly funny. >>224947
I saw my local record store (they're closing down in a few weeks rip) selling Bronski Beat's 'Age of Consent' for like $3-4 and was really tempted to get it since it was cheap. Maybe I'll have to pop back in and buy it… Do you have any advice for what to look for when buying a record player? If not, no worries. I don't mean to hijack the thread with all of my vinyl questions kek
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lmao what? I am considering that a new low for him
ewww those stubby highlighter yellow nails… too old now but if he were younger he would've been an enby. I considered posting him in the artists you won't support thread but felt like a hypocrite because I still listen to ariel pink on a near daily basis
and wasn't in the mood to rack my brain for all the other cowish things he's said and done.
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Please, anons, please tell me Robert Smith is wholesome. I know he’s been with his wife since they were like 14 or something.
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Sylvianon, do you have any favorite videos or interviews of David or any other members of the band? I've started listening to their music a lot more and I'm a little curious as to what the members are like. Also it's surprising how much David was able to change his voice from their first two albums to the later ones. Also also I think he has a very kind-looking smile lol.
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This would have been a more appropriate template
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I haven't heard anything negative about him. I think this fax he sent to the head of Elektra Records was cute. Great taste in movies too imo.
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Maybe he’s upset with what Pete did to his face
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Nonna, I know many people hate Morrissey and he seems to have a bunch of cow traits, but I still wonder, why. Is it the same reasoning as Brendon Urie and P!Atd or am I mistaken? I wanted to listen to some of the Morrissey's solo songs but even from a distance, he seems like an insufferable old man.
if you're very redpilled on brendon urie's shenanigans… kind of? in the sense that all male narcissists behave pretty similarly. onision before he went full nikocado meta mode is also comperable in many ways. google is your friend. maybe ask around in that artists you won't support thread as well, I'd rather take this discussion there.>>225111
it's an underlying vibe in some of his lyrics (off the top of my head two examples may be cemetery gates and pretty girls make graves) but it becomes more apparent in his own words and actions.
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Glad to see some The Smiths appreciation. Morrissey comes across as arrogant and very opinionated sometimes, but I have to appreciate his beautiful lyrics and voice. I also really love Johnny Marr's guitar though. Him and Morrissey are what makes The Smiths in my opinion. Personally I'm not really interested in Morrissey's solo music. Favourite album/song?
It's a toss up between their debut and Meat Is Murder, both near perfect albums. Reel Around The Fountain and That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore both immediately come to mind when choosing my fave Smiths songs. Yes, Morrissey's lyrics are endlessly entertaining and quotable lol, but he is a well known jerk. I haven't dived into his solo discography yet, but I plan to.
Never Had No One Ever has to be their most underrated tracks, in fact it's the first Smiths song I fell in love with. I love the slightly creepy, gloomy atmosphere, Morrissey's sighs and laughs, that lullaby melody towards the end. It gets overshadowed by I Know It's Over since it plays first on the tracklist (amazing song too) but damn it needs more love
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I wouldn't call Morrissey a misogynist but I might just not be well informed enough. But I do have the impression that he had or has an idealized idea of woman that probably retards him in some ways. A long time ago I started reading his autobiography (and dropped for no reason in particular kek) but from what I recall he tells how as a small child he was always surrounded by his female relatives, the male ones seeming secondary in his upbring, and being a cute little boy among them, I think he was coddled, both emotional and materialistic, as much as a poor Irish immigrant family could do. In the autobiography he says something like "he learned that women could also be cruel" as a little kid when he saw news about some criminal case (if I remember well it was the Moors murders, The Smiths do have a song about it), it was something mentioned in passing but it clearly left a great impression on him about women. He has/had a idealized image of women as nurturing and loving, then this image is shattered and he goes fatalist, loses faith in humanity, I guess he fails at having a nuanced view or something. His attachment to his mother and sister might seem cute at first, but I think he sees other women as uncapable of being as good as them, like an annoying guy who always compare his wife to his mother. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm making excuses for him, just pondering and tinfoiling a bit how his views are (maybe?) different from porn addicted scrotes and their glaring misogynism.Anyway, I also think the only way to enjoy his music is if you admit he is an insufferable prick, otherwise your brain'll melt, you'll start dressing up like him and invading the stage to hug him mid performance like a retard.
Picrel: me right now
I've also read his autobiography and he wrote about reading a lot of feminist theory as a teenager. >"Books on non-sexist language flip my life for the better, and I understand feminism to be a social savior because it liberates everyone without exclusion, whereas masculinism damns itself by measuring a man’s health by the amount of sexual gratification he receives."
I reckon this could fit into your zany psychoanalytic theory, but I'm not sure where. He was also supportive of gender abolition. He spoke about it in many earlier interviews, calling himself a 'prophet for the third sex', saying he 'detests sexual segregation' and that he was sick of men and sick of women. Certainly a proto-enby of sorts. Also in his autobiography are all of his most overtly misogynistic quips - mostly about fat women, which I can only laugh at now that he has bigger breasts than mine. They're early on in the book and made in reference to his homo (or 'huma') sexuality.
The only reason I keep whiteknight-ing him itt is because he wrote 'All the Lazy Dykes', which I simply cannot imagine any misogynist writing. >>225244https://youtu.be/OaMTsbocMhM?t=153
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Alan seems like he'd be a cat person.
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Just found out David Sylvian may live only like an hour and a half away from me… I am not going to do anything with this information, but it's cool to think about
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but why else would he defend hollywood creeps tho..there's no other excuse >>224990
someone in /g/ claims he's actually gay, not even bi, so there wouldn't be any chance for women. but idk how true that is
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it made me sad when i found out but hey.. i would be one of those fangirls too if i had a chance
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Has anyone heard of 8 Beat Gag? It's a manga that ran in the 80s doing slice-of-life stories about bands (especially pretty boys like Sylvian and Robert Smith). It's not high art or anything but it's cute, a shame a lot of the comics are hard to find. The mangaka still does drawings in that style too and puts them on her Twitter https://twitter.com/8beatgag
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Yes, I was thinking of asking if anyone else had heard of it! I wish there were more translations of her work online, but I agree the comics are so cute. She's based for making a career out of drawing cute art of her favorite musicians lol. Also some of the horny fanart makes me lol (although I can't exactly tell who this is supposed to be)
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I thought this one of Japan was really cute
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listened to ‘the ink in the well’ and i am now david sylvian pilled
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After much thinking I thought I'd treat myself and bought floor tickets to see Bauhaus in my city. I was thinking if I rush home from work and don't take a lot of time to get ready (rip) I should be able to make it maybe a little late. Thank you for inspiring me! I'm gonna go listen to more of their music now
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Have you ever eaten dinner with a young adult male? I remember at my old job my boss would sometimes buy dinner if we had to stay late and my coworkers would eat an entire Taco Bell party pack individually.
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Young Al Jourgensen was pretty cute. I recently got into Ministry and love their synth-pop era. I wish they would still experiment with synth-y stuff, but I’m a fan of their industrial music too.
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Anons what are your top 3 Depeche Mode albums and why?
(also look at these pretty boys)
1. Black Celebration
2. Songs of Faith and Devotion
3. Speak and Spell
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1. Some Great Reward
2. Black Celebration
3. Music for the Masses
Some Great Reward ranks highest because I love pretty much every song on the album. The other two albums have a lot of my favorite DM songs (But Not Tonight, Black Celebration, Strangelove, Never Let Me Down Again)
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Love careless whisper. I’ll never get tired of listening to it. Such a classic. Also, George Michael was such a cutie.
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I didn’t realize it was fanart! I could totally see why Japanese girlies would have latched on to Duran Duran and Japan and Atsuko Shiima is based for inspiring them to be horny kek. Also I think it’s cute that Steve Jansen interacts with her on twitter and retweeted this pic of them meeting. She’s really living the dream.
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Also this picture is cute
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I offer you this photo
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Normally he has a cute smile, but he looks like he's in pain
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You'll be glad to know that Johnny Marr is pretty wholesome - still with the same woman he married at 19 and keeps his head down media-wise.
My favorite album is actually Strangeways Here We Come, with The Queen is Dead as a close second. I Won't Share You nearly brings me to tears every time I listen.
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We do a little Marrposting.
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I saw Marr a few years back at a small club in Boston. If you ever have a chance to see him solo do it. Just came here to say I just saw Morrissey on his last stop in the U.S. tonight. Now I’ve seen half The Smiths! Picrelated old man Moz rockin out tonight
You’re lucky you got to see him nona! I heard he cancelled a lot of his shows this tour (as usual), but that’s cool he showed up and I hope you had a good time. I heard that Marr and Rourke collaborated on a song recently. I know Morrissey has bad blood with pretty much the rest of the Smiths members but are the other three on okay terms with each other? I wonder why they haven’t ever thought of getting together to play something?
I assume you saw Morrissey at the MGM hall in Boston. I was going to see Bauhaus there a few months ago but they cancelled the tour. Of course I want Peter Murphy to focus on his health, but I’m bummed I didn’t get to see them with the full og lineup…
One of the things I love about 80s music are wild looks and styles of the singers, especially female singers. >>224922
I was already alive in the late 80s but I still yearn for some of its culture. It's not just the music, the whole mindset was more chill (despite 80s being a rather dark time here) and the nightlife was a billion times cooler than what we have now.
Internet, boomer generation getting old/dying and all that has led to nightlife and social life as a whole dying. The pubs die, even clubs die and 80s music was often associated with it so if it wasn't gone before it would die now as well. The only thing I can still do at night (I refuse to waste social time with tv series) is going to a hookah bar with friends, but even they got hit hard by covid, much more than anything else for obvious reasons.
Since modernity is flooded with shitty rules too bonfires aren't allowed anymore either, you are barely allowed to breathe these days.
Plus, 80s were full of neon shit which is cool and 80s fashions and styles were like ten billion times better than the stuff we have now IMO. I also miss subcultures. We don't have any subcultures at all anymore, not even punks. And this is a subjective issue but personally I just don't like the music that is mainstream nowadays, or anything that was mainstream since the late 90s.
A bit necro but ayrt, yes MGM music hall! Sorry to hear about Bauhaus getting cancelled, I thought for sure old man Morrissey would cancel kek. My shallow understanding of the band dynamics is that Marr and Rourke were childhood friends actually. After the band broke up, Morrissey and Marr were screwing Rourke and Joyce on royalties and went to court. Rourke settled outside of court but Joyce fought and won iirc. I think that was kind of the nail in the coffin of the Smiths ever reuniting in any capacity.
Bump for Aztec Camera as I haven’t seen them mentioned yet and I feel like they’ve got the quintessential (but underrated) 80s sound.