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Does anyone know of killers who didn't have awful childhoods and had rather normal backgrounds with no mental illnesses?
The only two I know are Leopold and Loeb, who killed a kid to prove themselves they could do the perfect crime
Have you guys read any true crime books? Currently reading Under the Banner of Heaven by Jon Krakauer but it’s a chore to get through >>208749
Weren’t both of their parents dysfunctional rich people? Also Leopold was apparently molested by his nanny when he was like 12. Idk how true that is though. But people have grown up in worse environments and don’t turn out like these two dunderheads.
It surprises me that a lot of serial killers and true crime figures had fairly normal childhoods from the looks of things. Of course, you still got your Henry Lee Lucas’ and Aileen Wurnos’ bu even the biggest monsters don’t actually seem to come from trauma. Both Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer had average (if a bit unconventional) childhoods.
Oh yeah, forgot about the surgery lol. You’re right. I guess I was initially referring to his home life though. His mom had mental issues and his dad, while seemingly well meaning, neglected him because he was pursuing his PhD. Now that I think about it, that’s a pretty shitty childhood but plenty of people grow up in those types of environments and end up being decent, even sometimes wonderful, people. So I kinda think his childhood wasn’t as impactful as some other factors (like the surgery you mentioned).>>238875
That book does have a weird layout now that you mention it. The beginning is all about girls who were forced to marry old ass men when they barely hit puberty (I I initially got that book because I thought it was gonna be about Warren Jeffs but I was wrong. Then it goes into Mormon history. The first half is interesting but Krakauer makes everything after Joseph Smith’s death seem so boring. Also the Lafferty bros story is interesting but yeah, the narrative is all over the goddamn place. The subplot about girls being forced into marriage is quickly dropped.
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Having a domineering, depressed or BPD mother seems to be a huge correlation with a lot of them. Dahmer had a middle class life but his mom was a hypochondriac and sort of BPD. Ted Bundy if I remember right had a refrigerator mother with clinical depression.
Another thing. I'm surprised more people don't realize that Dahmer was clearly an autist. The perverted sex stuff and fascination with his narrow fetishes can be explained by the hyper-sexuality common with autists. Autists are prone to extreme, abstract fetishes, and he just happened to have a fucked up necro and control fetish. The monotone voice and blank affect he has was put down to schizotypal disorder at the time, but it's just the way most high functioning autists act and speak.
The shit he did, like watching the same movies every week and drinking excessively, are how aspies live as adults once they leave home. The hyper fascination on the Exorcist and Return of the Jedi as movies to the point of watching them on repeat is peak aspie behavior.
There's autistic fetish discords you can find out there, and the shit aspies post on there is just as bizarre and weird as what Dahmer gets off to, just not so viscerally disgusting. Things like cumming over macaroni and cheese being stirred and making sloppy noises. Or hyperfixation on a certain scene from a kids movie like Honey I shrunk the kids, to the point of getting off to nothing but that for the rest of their life. Dahmer playing with roadkill likely had that fetishistic imprinting.
blaming the parents for raising a murderer is stupid as fuck. millions of people suffer abusive
/neglectful/etc parents and dont become killers. bundy had normal parents. its a brain issue in most of them. abuse can make it worse, but it is something they are born with.
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Necroing because I just watched the new Casey Anthony documentary series on Peacock and I felt fairly open to the alternative narrative presented by it. I remember the case when it was really active, but I have not followed it in any real depth. I was sort of surprised to see in online true crime communities that the users seem 100% committed to believing the Casey-is-an-evil-killer-party-mom narrative and cannot consider for a moment that maybe her pedo abuser dad (Kaylee's grandfather) really did it. It honestly reminds a bit of the women who cape so hard for Johnny Depp and just CANNOT IMAGINE that Amber Heard is not evil incarnate. Men are monsters, why do some women fight so hard to not see this?
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What are y'all opinions/theories on JonBenét's murder?
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I wonder if she really legit did anything wrong or that moi d deserved what he got. She is hot.
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Most of the saga is pretty much over at this point, with some loose ends still being need to be tied up but what did everyone think about this case?