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No. 191528

I'm hoping there are enough Doctor Who fans around here lol. This is a thread for discussions about all things Doctor Who like the incarnations, companions, classic Who and new Who, the tv show and Big Finish recordings

No. 191601

Didn't even know there was a woman doctor till the other day. Stopped watching after matt smith season ended. Really liked christopher eccleston and david tennant doctors, matt smith was alright but that companion and her ugly boyfriend were annoying as hell.

No. 191616

That's right where I stopped too. I got to the big "war" episodes or whatever and it was so overdone I just couldn't go on. The boyfriend was annoying. I really liked the Bad Wolf plotline and a lot of the atmosphere of the early reboot much better.

No. 191632

i never watched doctor who because it's too entangled with tumblr and superwholock at this point, but vidrel never fails to make me cry. it's the only dw scene i know kek

No. 191636

It’s one of the best in the whole series. I showed my sci-fi-hating mom this episode and she really liked it. Then I had to let her down by telling her that most other episodes of the show aren’t as good kek

No. 191637

You really haven't missed much. For me Matt Smith's era was unbearable but there are moments in Capaldi's run that were worth watching if you ever get round to it

No. 191639

For me, David Tennant was the best doctor who. Around that time there was another uk tv show called the Sarah Jane Adventures who was kinda like a young ‘female’ version I guess? And I loved it. And they did a crossover thing and it was amazing for young me.

No. 191640

Same anon, I loved SJA. That crossover episode with David Tennant where she got married was better than a lot of new Who

No. 191683

Unpopular opinion, but the eleventh doctor was my favorite.

No. 191689

Why was that nonna?

No. 191786

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I tried to watch from the start, but there were so many missing or partially recovered episodes that I became frustrated. Some of the surviving ones were good though. Like The Dalek Invasion of Earth.

No. 194162

I am so happy 10th Doctor writer is coming back. 13th Doctor was so goddamn horrible, the writing team kept bragging how they never watched a show and both them and the actress kept shitting on fandom and calling everyone sexist over her era's flop. It's truly embarrassing.

No. 194272

that 5hr video essay on yt pretty much summarises everything i feel about the thirteenth doctor. everything they've done is HEAVY pandering and the idea of them marvelifying it in order to improve ratings is even worse. having shitty SFX and terrible budgets meant that earlier series had to be creative with storylines, but now they've pumped so much money into it and it still looks fugly anyway. russell t davies clearly had a sense of humour about his writing but was capable of writing emotionally charged scenes at the same time. such a talented storywriter whose capabilities were limited by the budget limitations at the time. peter capaldi brought everything to his performance but jenna coleman's storyline went on FAR TOO LONG and basically was just cry-bait. part of my problem with dw is that they're too scared to kill off characters and even tho that became kind of trite after GOT it still would improve the series tenfold.

also, this is a personal grievance but i wish they'd stop trying to make north england happen. set it in london or cardiff because i guarantee NOBODY gives two fucks about sheffield or manchester or whatever. it's obviously just because filming in london is expensive and they're too busy blowing the budget on wanky SFX that nobody even appreciates because NOBODY WATCHES THE SHOW.

No. 194274

what the series lacks is creativity and fresh ideas and writers who can be held accountable to their myopic version of diversity. people want POC characters and women (half the fandom is women) but don't the (white) writing team realise that writing POC characters without any personality is worse than not writing them at all? they're given no dignity and depth and they pick the flattest, most unemotional actors. diversity doesn't work if you're just doing it for the sake of doing it and people can see right through pandering. bill was perfectly written and done justice. if you don't give a fuck about your characters then why bother writing them in the first place? because the audience won't care.

they need to give it a break for a few years. the 7th doctor's run was campy and i enjoyed it but the ratings were just getting worse and worse. either they try and do something unique or they try and make it just like marvel and embarrass themselves when nobody wants to buy into their pandering BS

No. 194276

mostly i'm just bored of the endless excuses about people not watching TV. people are still watching greys anatomy, LMAO. instead of trying to work with the changing mediums and streaming platforms they just give this whining cacophony of excuses and nobody's buying it. doctor who shouldn't have to die this miserable death via irrelevance. the amount of talented actors and writers and set designers and directors and make-up artists get their shit thrown away if people don't bother to realise that people DO care about doctor who, they DO care about the fandom, and it's not just the fact that the thirteenth doctor is a woman. it's very sad to watch everything get flushed away for the sake of diversity that even the writing team doesn't believe in. doctor who has always been campy and fun and exciting. the most excitement you get in the current series is when the doctor might finally die.

No. 194646

I'd personally like to forget that the 13th Doctor even existed if I'm honest lol, that's how irrelevant and forgettable she is to me. And people always say "oh but it wasn't Jodie's fault it was just the writing" but I really think she's partially to blame and they're just trying to be lenient. She's simply not a very good actor for Doctor Who, especially not for the main goddamn character. It sucks because for the first female Doctor we could've had soooo much better, but they completely squandered a really interesting opportunity, just a waste of potential and everyone's time really

No. 194666

I agree; I feel like Jodie never hits the right emotional notes and always falls short when she's required to do anything more than insecure and scatty. Her character's an amalgamation of all of the irritating parts of former doctors (Ten's hyperactivity, Four's omgimsoquirky schtick, Eleven's pomposity) with the added bonus of having an identity crisis every five seconds and needing her hand held by her "fam" in order to do anything. And now cardboard Yaz has a crush on her, fucking fantastic. I actually don't mind some of her episodes as standalone stories but most of them have the same pacing problems as Moffatt-era eps and although I think RTD's work is great, it's frustrating to think that we have to go back to him because there's not been anyone else that can actually write the show properly

No. 194887

Yep, everyone always complained about how she was just a carbon copy of the Tenth Doctor and his mannerisms, but without any of the aspects that made him such a compelling character. Jodie even admitted she knew little about the show so she just watched the Tenth Doctor and sucked up all his energy and enthusiasm and very little else without adding her own nuanced, unique spin to the character. And I don't exactly think she's a bad actress - i saw her in Broadchurch and thought she was pretty good. But I think only putting the blame on "bad writing" is dishonest, because even Tennant had some crappy episodes but he was always fantastic and gave 100% to every performance, because he's a great actor and he knew how to make Ten watchable. Jodie's Doctor is just…nothing, she's not interesting enough to make the shit writing even just a little bearable, she never had that ability, and it's painfully obvious.

No. 195345

I didn't know that she didn't know much about the show, but it definitely makes sense. I slightly disagree about Tennant; I feel like he was often easily outshone by guest actors (Lesley Sharpe, John Simm, even Bernard Cribbins) but he definitely had something compelling that Whittaker lacks, no matter how much idiotic gurning she does. Can you imagine her doctor trying to pull this scene off?

No. 247710

I've been trying to catch up since I want to see the regeneration episode but god it's unwatchable, I don't think I can make it through S13. I am completely baffled by people invested in thasmin or 13's tardis team.

No. 247774

S13 is objectively terrible but I'm weirdly fond of it. They just turned all the messiness and timey wimey shit (god that expression makes me want to punch things) up to 100 and it at least felt like there were a few new ideas in there, even if they were a bit shit. If you can make it through, the NY ep that came afterwards was a bit better
I share your bafflement, anon. These two twats are so unlikable I don't know how anyone could get excited over them.

No. 250820

I ended up catching up with it and yeah I agree with you. At least I wasn't regretting my existence after watching it like I did with S12.

What did everyone think of the centenary special anyway? Personally I was kind of glad they didn't screw up the lore further and just kept it to fanservice, though the episode is a total mess. I think I'd have been really mad at 13 regenerating back into Tennant at the end if I had actually been invested in the era, and I know deep down it's a cheap trick to boost hype, but honestly anything is better than what we've been getting recently. I'll take a reenactment of the RTD days by the real deal over Chibnall's empty imitation.

No. 250826

I thought it was pretty decent, and definitely could have been a lot worse. Probably should have been a two part-er though. I wasn't keen on the whole "convoluted plot with a million threads that only start to make sense in the last 10 mins" thing, but I guess that's Chibnall's thing. It was also kind of weird to throw in the Daleks and the Cybermen just for them to be irrelevant in the end. I did like the fanservice though, and it was the first time I've been convinced by Sacha Dhawan as the Master, so that was nice (and honestly, I'm just glad to be shot of the entire era so I probably would've enjoyed anything kek) I agree about Tennant - I'm cynical but at the same time really excited to have him back.
>Chibnall's empty imitation
The centenary felt exactly like this! The Master being super camp all of a sudden, the Rasputin bit… Even the scene where the Doctor woke up before her regen to Yaz flying the TARDIS was exactly like the scene before 9's regeneration

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