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No. 115540
>>115536If you want to get into the basic Fate/Stay Night storyline, the order I'd suggest watching it is
>Fate/Zero (takes place 10 yrs before F/SN)
>Fate/Stay Night (2006 anime by Studio Dean)>Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works>Fate/Stay Night: Heaven’s Feel (movie trilogy)Imo it doesn't matter what order you watch the other parts after F/SN in, but I'm sure there are purists out there who have recommended "watch in this order" lists.
Also, stay far away from Prisma Illya unless you want to get flagged by Interpol. It sounds like a cute magical girl au but it's actually loli bait.
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>Warcraft lore
I've played a bit of WoW but actually following the shit that happens in quests, cinematics, new expansions etc is beyond me. I'm not familiar with Warcraft and the novels don't seem worth the time investment, but it would be nice to understand more of the storyline when I play.
>Doctor Who
Too long, too many different series/doctors, and I'm too unclear on the appeal. I just know I'll never bother no matter how often I see people recommend it
>Fantasy novels in general
Stuff like Dune, Wheel of Time, all those Brandon Sanderson novels. They're just massive books and I'm not even sure if fantasy is my thing, so I keep putting them off. I'm really keen to try though, I'd love to have such an endless amount of content to consume especially with upcoming adaptions.
>Jojo, One Piece, Gintama
Listing all 3 at once because it's the same situation for all of them - I've read a lot of the manga and watched a lot of the anime, but it was ages ago and forget tonnes of stuff. I did enjoy what I read but I can't be bothered keeping up with new parts or adaptions. It feels harder to try and get back into them than it was to start them.
What big franchises do anons actually recommend and find worth the time investment? For me it's
>Legend of the Galactic Heroes
110 episode OVA, another ~50 episode OVA, a new adaption and a bunch of movies, it's fucking massive but I loved every second of it. I never expected to find badly animated talking heads discussing space politics so fascinating. I can rewatch it multiple times and I'm still riveted.
>Hunter x Hunter
Two long ass anime series and a manga that will probably never be finished, but by far my favourite battle shounen and I just find it clever and unpredictable in comparison to other series. Even if we never get a conclusion I'm glad I spent so much time on it.
>Supernatural
Actually I don't know if I recommend it, it's pretty shitty at parts and loads of people dislike it. But there are so many fun, hilarious episodes spread throughout 15 seasons that it's worth it for me and I'm thirsty af for Dean.
Damn this is a bit of an essay but I put a lot of thought into what media to invest my precious free time in.
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>>115558For me Supernatural ended season 5 where the original writers had intended it to end. Richings Death was the best thing, such a disgrace how they killed him off in 10.
No. 115569
Star Trek for me, I fucking loved The Original Series as a kid but I never watched any of the other series.
>>115533same, 08th MS Team slaps but the amount of Gundam media that exists is incredibly intimidating. Currently trying to chip my way through the early UC shows though and I'm enjoying myself.
>>115558>LotGHAnother one I plan on getting into, your glowing recc is definitely encouraging!
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I've wanted to get into Warhammer 40000 for the longest time and I never really knew how to given how massive and overwhelming the franchise looks, then during the first lockdown I spent all my days reading pages on Lexicanum and 1d4chan. I now have a pretty good knowledge of the universe, enough to get most memes and to recognize some obscure characters, but I'm not sure if I want to get into playing the board game, the miniatures and codexes are such a money sink, and I'm too much of a dumbass to understand rules. There's also a shitton of books of varying quality, I'm sticking to the Horus Heresy novels for now.
No. 115576
>>115528Ot but the enduring relevance of Higurashi is so confusing to me. I remember watching it as a middle schooler and it was a weird old series then, can’t believe I’m im my 20’s now and kids are still talking abt it, it’s not good
Utena is so popular and supposed to be super deep but every time I try to watch it I can’t get more than a few episode In
No. 115582
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A Certain Magical Index franchise
Every dude who watched it can’t stop telling me how great and “not like other battle shounen” it is. Apparently the female protagonists are good? I’m only mildly interested if I’m taking their words for it but there’s just so much of it.
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> What are some shows and franchises that are hard to get into?
One piece, bleach, naruto. Those shits are too long and just really not my type, I tried watching at least a few chapters of each and it was impossible to me. Same with JoJo, I love the character designs but I tried reading the manga a long time ago and I just wanted colorful guys fighting by homoerotically getting touched by their magical weird spiritual animals. It is quite interesting looking plotwise too, but it’s also already so long that I would need a few days to binge it properly.
The avengers’ comics too, they’re extremely long, my autistic ass needs to be in the zone for binge reading so I can really make some progress reading those, specially the older ones that has walls of texts in comparison to how they’re done nowadays.
Pokémon, it’s difficult to properly get into it, I tried, reading the manga and I noped after a while, it’s immensely huge, so I guess it would be better to just pick your favorite Pokémon protagonists and follow their story.
> What big franchises do anons actually recommend and find worth the time investment?
I think transformers is honestly fun, the characters are interesting even if the pacing gets a bit slow at times, I also like the whole world building aspect of it, technobabble is the best.
Ojamajo doremi, it’s fun and cute, it can touch a few hard subject even if it’s a kid’s show, the whole thing is so whimsical that it can really make one smile.
Sailor moon, the manga is amazing, I loved it, I feel like the story makes more sense in there and there are lots of really beautiful illustrations too.
Servamp, the manga is already around the 100 chapters but it seems that it won’t get extremely long, the vampires and some of the humans are quite interesting, the story is a tiny bit over the place but the whole setting is really interesting.
No. 115587
>>115582Anon, they are straight up lying to you. The only mildly interesting thing in the anime is Accelerator's storyline and he only appears around episode 22 or something, the other 80% of the time you have to follow your typical self insert semi-harem battle shonen protagonist and it's unbearable.
The series with Misaka as a protagonist (the main girl in that poster) is also boring as shit and uneventful.
No. 115607
>>115604I agree with you about Sasuke, and I think he completely ruined the whole franchise, but there's no first series. There's just Naruto from the first to the last volume with everything in between. Because of shit like this you have retards asking where they need to start reading or watching long series like Naruto, Dragon Ball or JJBA when the answer is to watch episode one, then episode two, then episode three, etc. or read the first volume, then the second one, then the third one, etc. Reminds me of idiots on tumblr saying you could skip the first four acts in Homestuck and perfectly understand what's going on. Calling long anime adaptations "Shippuden" or "DBZ" is just some marketing gimmick so Japanese people casually watching TV back then would know there's a timeskip or a new season, that's literally it.
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>>115564Agreed, I still watch into season 8 or so because I love Charlie Bradbury (not AU Charlie or dark Charlie tho). Also I enjoy how we get to see Bobby as an actual father figure to them. Everything else is trash.
No. 115614
>>115606How exactly is Utena retarded? I get that it's not your taste and that some episodes are quirky, but…
And if you think that Utena is retarded, the rest of the anime must be braindead then.
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>>115635NTA, I think they mean Serial Experiments Lain. It's confusing af, but has a great soundtrack and concept.
Another one is Texhnolyze. The same artist from SEL designed it, and it also has a great, kind of unusual, soundtrack. But, it's really, really, REALLY boring and slow paced. It's not as well written as SEL, so there's no urge to try and figure out the plot's meaning. I liked the main character a lot, tho. Wish he had more development.
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For me it's Umineko.
I love Higurashi, but like many others I got into it because of the anime. Once I finished that I craved more so I read the VN (and manga). The anime has plenty of faults and didn't age very well, but it was fine as a way of being introduced to the story and characters.
For Umineko it's different. The anime is an absolute garbage fire and covers only very little of the actual material. I got about 25 hours into the Umineko VN before I accidentally lost my save, and I just… never bothered to pick it back up. It's very very slow and requires a lot of patience if you aren't already invested in the characters. I know there 's supposed to be way more twists and whatnot beyond what I've seen, but I really can't be arsed to spend that much time clicking through what mostly feels like mundane filler dialogue.
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>>115533>08th MS Team firstYou already fucked it up.
Watch Mobile Suit Gundam (1979), tv series. After that, Zeta Gundam (1985) and the movie Char's Counterattack (1988).
0079 themes are the precursors of a fuckton of anime tropes, while the show itself being far from the normal generic anime shitfest. All dramatic points are top-notch and are the reasons why Tomino is always praised by other directors and industry veterans.
If you end up not enjoying it for petty reasons, like the old animation or slow pace, that's okay. But beyond those technical drawbacks lies the core gist of the whole franchise. If you can't say you liked 0079, I doubt you would enjoy the other non-joke gundam shows.
No. 115704
>>115674>part 2 was the best though?Is it really anon?
Nothing wrong with it being someone's favorite arc, but personally i found it just insufferable and if you don't ship caesar/joseph (personally i couldnt like either characters) then there's little to no content to really enjoy in that arc>>115674
No. 115725
>>115705>Skipping Jojo part 1-3 is completely okay because the stupid macho shit is what turns most women off and the series stops doing that after those parts.Nah, girls love stupid macho shit because it means cute macho boys, that's why we're such a massive part of literally any battle manga's audience despite them being aimed at boys. The male characters in 1-3 and therefore the parts themselves are incredibly popular with women.
1-2 are recommended to be skipped because they're so completely different from the rest of the series that they don't really give you an idea of whether you'll like later parts or not, and 3 is when Araki was still finding his footing with stands so it's just not a great part.
No. 115760
>>115754What episode are you on?
I watched it several years ago, it’s definitely a slow burn type series. The anime adaption was very accurate to the manga and doesn’t condense much. It picks up around episode 30ish (I think).
Overall I really enjoyed it, but it’s a definitely a slow-moving story and not for everyone.
No. 115761
>>115754I loved the manga but tbh I'm not sure if the anime would've held my attention if I tried it first, or even tried it now.
When in doubt with anime, I always go for the manga because you can consume 10x as much in the same amount of time and make your decision to continue or not with a better idea of the material.
No. 115768
>>115761>When in doubt with anime, I always go for the manga because you can consume 10x as much in the same amount of timethis, I never understand people that mostly watch anime and skip on manga even though they could get to know the whole story and not just season 1.
Every anime episode takes forever and often nothing even happens lmfao
No. 115772
>>115528
> HigurashiI never really heard about this one before, which is weird cause I was way into anime and mangas when I was younger. I saw it recently on Netflix and didn’t exactly get it.
I’m currently “playing” the VN but it’s so sluggish and the characters are plain annoying. I honestly don’t understand why people are praising the writing when it’s like “awwuuuu she sho kyuuuute” and every basic anime cliche trope that exist under the sun.
Yeah you can fight me Higurashi stans, cause I honestly just don’t get it.
> The officeI just don’t know if it’s worth getting into cause it’s so long, and it seems a bit overhyped. I feel like I’ve seen already half the show through memes at this point. Honestly asking if it’s worth watching?
I’m just starting It’s always sunny in Philadelphia but it’s honestly gold. I want to know if the office is about the same.
No. 115775
>>115772About Higurashi, I had hard time in the beginning because all of these tropes and extra long scenes of the characters playing games were just boring to read but let me assure you, it's loved for a reason. The whole point of setting up the "cliche" vibes and characters that seem like one trope personified is to make the later horror shift in tone feel even more pronounced.
In the end it's understandable if you don't want to sit through all that "cliche fun time" (and it's a lot of it especially in the first 3 chapters, at some point I just fastforwarded through some) but it's legitimately worth it in the end because writting where it matters really is fantastic, I've been reading horror literature half of my life and Higurashi is up there with the best when it comes to setting the tone, building tension and characters' psychology. On the surface if may seem like just "oh you think this cute girl is cute but she's actually a psycho" gimmick but it's much deeper than that, all of the character's "quirks" really make sense in the end, they're fully fleshed out people you can sympathize with.
Sorry for sounding like a weeb I guess but I'm really jaded when it comes to horror and visual novels as the genres and this genuinely VN surprised me with how good it turned out to be; so I feel like other people should not give up on it too.
No. 115783
>>115779I've seen the anime, don't know about manga, but I'm gonna say - definitely VN. The first person narration provides in depth look into protagonist's mind which is impossible to ever fully achieve in mediums like manga or anime; and I believe "tell, don't show" approach is far superior in horror genre, especially here where the author really excells at describing both paranoia and gore in a way that feels more intense than actually seeing someone's visual interpretation of it, gives you more freedom of your own interpretation and is more immersive thanks to that, especially with addition of music and sound effects.
Also, an unpopular opinion but after trying both I believe mangagamer's version is the best one; even though sprites are a bit too sexualized at times, they're polished and rough, filtered photos backgrounds + less of CGI moments kinda fit the vibe of the story more than more "visually appealing" fully painted console version.
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>>115783>kinda fit the vibe of the story more than more "visually appealing" fully painted console versionWhy not just use the original sprites then? I never liked the redrawn ones since they felt so generic. Sure, ryukishi07 is no artistic genius, especially back then, but his expressions have their own vibe and fit the story best of all imo.
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>>115799I kinda like the original 07th sprites, it gives the series a weird doujin charm, all the other designs are generic at best and hideous at worst (the Umineko pachinko sprites they used for Steam). I never managed to get over Mion's gun, it was such a weird design that they got rid of it in subsequent ports (but weirdly enough they kept it for the old anime). I don't think it was ever addressed, is it even a real gun?
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>Avatar the Last AirbenderI tried watching the first couple of eps, it really just feels like a kids show and I couldn't get into it. But plenty of adults adore it, the article I saved pic related from called it one of the greatest shows of all time… should I keep trying? Does it get good at a particular point?
>Star WarsI've only seen the first movie and it felt dated and lame, it's one of the biggest franchises of all time so I feel like I need to watch it eventually. But do the other old movies hold up? Are any of the new ones good enough to make it worthwhile?
>>115768>Every anime episode takes forever and often nothing even happens lmfaoHonestly this is so true. I watched anime for years and I have a lot of series I loved, but even those series are just full of forcibly dragged out moments and overly slow pacing within scenes regardless of how fast the plot itself moves. Even on shitty western tv they tend to have something happening at all times and you're entertained from moment to moment. I can watch a western TV series I actively dislike and I'm still not waiting for things to move along the way I do in anime.
>>115772>I’m just starting It’s always sunny in Philadelphia but it’s honestly gold. I want to know if the office is about the same.Always Sunny is significantly funnier but the Office is still funny and good for just background watching while you're multitasking. It's not a hard series to get into, you literally just pick any random episode and if you like it you'll probably like the rest.
No. 115830
>>115826Re: Avatar, yes, I would say the first several episodes have a somewhat generic, simplistic feel then it gets much better and more interesting. I usually hate when people tell me “watch until episode XX, it’s amazing after that I promise!” when it’s like bitch, if it isn’t capturing me straight away why do you think I want to waste my time watching trash until it
might surpass mediocrity? But there are a few rare instances where I believe the wait was worth it, and I think Avatar is one of those. Personally I think it starts getting more thoughtful, mature and creative by episode 10. Keep in mind that the characters are kids themselves, so it’s also the journey of watching them grow from naive children into more experienced and thoughtful adults that makes it so fun. They never get past the teenage stage so keep that in mind, but it deals with young adults dealing with sometimes harsh realities and conflicting values in an honest and intelligent way. It’s not a gritty grimdark show where they constantly face rape, murder and torture, but frankly that’s one of the reasons I find it so refreshing.
No. 115835
>>115714wait what??? explain
so is beatrice a psychopath troon??
>>115795yeah, hot blooded macho stuff can be fun. I'm watching cromartie highschool right now (dubbed version) and it's just fun to watch.
No. 115844
>>115828The first star wars has not aged badly compared to the second two in the original trilogy anon.
>>115826 If the first one didn't appeal to you than it's just not your style
No. 115853
>>115830Seconding this. I love Avatar, but its fans really do not talk about how generic a full third of it is. FWIW I didn't like it as a kid, so when I say I love it, it's without nostalgia, but yeah, I literally never revisit the whole first season. I watched it w/ my little sis when she was a legit kid, definitely the target audience for the kiddie stuff, and even she was like "when does this get good" – though she's a huge fan now, lol. There's some cool stuff in that first season–some visual choices in the finale were the first things to make me really sit up and think people were onto something when they talked about how good it is. But having seen the whole thing….it's ridiculous how many things that make the show what it is are just totally absent from that first season.
Related, if you end up liking ATLA and want to watch LOK: I think fans are way too hard on LOK and forget how much of ATLA is meh. LOK's got dud moments but ATLA does too, people are just nostalgic.
No. 115882
>>115705I like my pretty skinny boys but parts 1-2 are legitimately very fun, and are so short they're low-commitment compared to later parts. You can skip portions of part 3 and still get the gist of the story since so much of it is enemy stand user of the week stories, and are weaker than enemy stand stories in later parts.
Honestly when people skip parts I just assume they want to get into jojo for the memes or something, or that Jojo is straight up not for them if they can't get through parts 1 and 2.
No. 115891
>>115837I'm a different anon but reading the wikia (and not knowing the game)
it's really clear that he is male, not in a "mtf" way but really male, the family just fucked up raising him as a girl because his dick got mutilated in an accident. He is more relatable to (cis) children who where forcibily trooned out by their parents than troons who badly want a pussyIt's also kinda sad that
it became hard to play with the ambiguity of this topic now that these degenerates always have to shout "one of us!!! twans right uwu!!" No. 115894
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>>115891Oopsi I also forgot to add there is a character in a similar context in the game "Fear and Hunger - Termina",
his mother raised him as a girl so he could avoid is gruesome fate as the family heir, and the author stated that "she doesn't feel distress about her gender". I find it's an interesting way to approach the topic but even the troons are kinda ruining it for me because no ambiguity allowed when it comes to gender now.Not saging this post because I actually want to talk about this game. It's a (still updating) sequel of the game of the same name and I loved the weird uneasy atmosphere, anyone liked this game?
No. 116369
>>115772Ok anon from last post here, and I felt like I was maybe missing out something I didn’t get from the anime if I played the first VN so I went back to it and finally finished the first … episode?
I still don’t like it, even more so now if that’s possible. Maybe I just don’t get the format. I never played a “game” so long with so little content. I’m a big fan of horror media and honestly this ain’t it. I felt like watching only the filler episodes of an anime 80% of the time.
Maybe it’s because I outgrew my weeb phase, but characters whose eyes become blank and go “gyeh gyeh gyeh” doesn’t do much for me. Also the whole “loli who goes mew” is too cringe.
I had a better time reading through r/unresolvedmysteries and didn’t have to suffer through 3 hours of middle school kids playing card games.
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>>116371999 and its sequel virtue's last reward are so good.
No. 116434
>>116391>>116374Thanks anons, yet again this board is one of the last place where people have sensible opinions. I thought I was going mad by seeing every review being 9.5/10. I felt like I was taking crazy pills after having sunk 5 hours of my life into this episode.
I’m open to the idea of trying another episode if it has a bit more gameplay like maybe anon here
>>116371 mentioned.
I felt like putting it in the VN category was a bit deceiving as I was expecting some choice option with different endings (idk, maybe a bit like Doki doki, and even that was shit)
Overall, calling the writing a masterpiece is plain deranged.