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No. 98588

Do you fear your old age? If so, why?

Do you know any women in your family who are total train wrecks later in life?

No. 98589

>>98588
nah, i was retarded in my 20s. as i got closer to 30 i worked hard at getting my shit together. im feelin pretty good where im at

No. 98590

This smells like robot bait.

No. 98591

A little, but only because I don't want to spend it husbandless and I know men are shitty about age (leaving when she gets 1(one) wrinkle and such).
Otherwise my life is very stable and planned out unless some sort of disaster happens, so I'm secure in that at least. When it comes to looks I'm fine with becoming wrinkly and old so long as I get to wear classy clothes. I already dress like a very formal grandma every day so I'm prepared haha.

>>98590
Probably.

No. 98592

I'm young and still haven't experienced life. I look forward to my older years for new adventures honestly. And time to shape myself into someone I want to be.

No. 98593

Why would I fear being wiser and having more experience in life? Tf is this thread

No. 98594

You only get to be an old wreck if you stay immature and don't learn shit throughout your whole life. Otherwise aging isn't so bad.

No. 98598

I think older women can be so beautiful, hopefully I'll be one of them.

No. 98599

kind of yeah, kind of no. Like I'm scared of how my health might deteriorate and I don't look forward to being closer to dying, but I don't think being Cool Wine Aunt is a bad thing.

No. 98600

>>98598
this, i also love seeing older women dress in fashions they liked when they were younger. like women who were teens in the 70s-80s still dressing like groupies. it shows a kind of confidence you only get from growing up to realize how little opinions matter.

No. 98602

OP pic doesn't really work as a diss because travelling to Paris, shopping and drinking wine just aren't very bad things.

No. 98604

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No. 98606

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>>98604
I love that movie.

No. 98608

This is a robot bait 100%
that being said, I hate how men in particular push this notion that if you're unmarried and have other things you dedicate your time to like shitposting drawing, writing, programming and such is a bad thing. Of course, in the incel mind, every unmarried woman just has sex 24/7 and does drugs and alcohol because their tiny brains can't comprehend that there's more to life than that.

I do wish that fear mongering of being a spinster stopped. In my case, meeting older single women and seeing them genuinely being happy made me sure about my life choices.

But I'd add that I fear of getting old. Not because I won't be attractive with wrinkles and saggy skin, no. What I fear is that if I reach old age, I'll be in pain or have to go through surgeries. My point being, the moment I lose independence I'll kys.

No. 98610

Lol I've been thinking about this. All my aunts on my dad's side are spinsters. 2 out of the 3 have kids. My mums sister is nuts, absolutely crazy. My mum herself is a fucking mess too, by age 14 she had had 2 fiancé's since splitting with my Dad, she finally tied the knot with the 3rd in her 50s.

I'm 28, and every so often I catch my mothers reflection staring at me in the mirror. I've upped my exercise and trying to be conscious of not being a nut case.

I'm scared about divulging into a nutcase, I'm trying to get a masters and my boyfriend is talking about buying a house and proposing to me. It's all building up and I'm starting to shit it

No. 98611

>>98610
do you know how to english anon?

No. 98612

Can't fucking wait tbh. I'm married but childless and by the time I'm middle-aged all my friends kids will be in college so we can hang out again.

No. 98614

Nah. I can't wait to be in my 40s. My only concern is that men my age then will be balding, wrinkly out of shape fatties with saggy balls and no stamina for sex. But thankfully I'll be well off enough to have a cute stud boytoy.
I also really can't wait to retire. I have so many plans for post-retirment life!

No. 98615

>>98611
I'm high on a mobile apologies

No. 98616

>>98615
DW i had to read it a few times tho.

i still can't unread that your mom was 14 and already divorced/engaged twice.

No. 98617

>>98616
She is Catholic

No. 98633

>>98617
>>98616
This is exactly why she's messed up in the head. Jesus anon, I'm Catholic and I literally know of no one who has been in that position. I know you don't want to turn into her, but presumably you weren't dealt the same hand of cards that she was, so relax.

No. 98641

I'm really fine about it. My life is going well, and I don't see it derailing anytime soon.
Don't know any older train wrecks either, because I'm not from a trashy background tbh.

No. 98642

>>98596
Women don't get loose from sex, incel.
And no woman lives her life just having sex and boozing up, greasy old dudes do. Glad my post triggered you enough to give me a (You).

No. 98648

>>98647
i can smell this bait from a mile away. whaddya want me to do bud, cry? start a fight with you on an anonymous image board? you should try a bit harder, everyone knows men are the ones who age like milk.

No. 98649

>>98648
I know right. Old men are ugly as fuck and look like sandpaper. Men start looking rough as hell after 24.

No. 98650

>>98648
>>98649
>N-no you!
Pathetic. You took the "bait" like clockwork.

You want me to entertain your silly preconceived notions riddled with paranoia and insecurity? Sure, I can do that.

By the way mods, don't bother trying to ban me. You cannot stop me. I come and go as I please, effortlessly and whimsically. The harder you try to exert power and control over me, the more you'll realize that you have no power or control over me. It's futile(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 98651

>>98650
you sound fucking lame. quit your chuuni shit at least.

No. 98653

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>>98650

>It's futile


Oof imagine being this cringy 24/7

No. 98654

I come from a family of beautiful older women so I'm not overly worried as long as I take care of myself. I worry about how some men will act toward me and getting sick but that's about it. I can't wait to have that experience, comfort, and not giving a fuck. Getting older isn't bad. It's part of life.
Wonder if the men who make comments about women hitting the wall and being dickheads realize that their sperm quality goes down the shitter as they get older, they lose hair more than women, and that ED becomes more common. It ain't just women who age. Tick-fucking-tock.

No. 98655

>>98650
Onion?

No. 98656

>>98651
>>98653
>cringy
What's it like being 12 years old? You act like little kids who get embarrassed over everything.

No. 98657

I don't even know what robOP expected from this thread.
We can't stop ourselves from getting old, it's going to happen. Do you want us to grovel about it? It's just nature, it's been going on for quite a while.

No. 98659

>>98649
This tbh, makes me sad. I just want a cute bf but everyone is losing their hair.

No. 98660

>>98614
>I also really can't wait to retire. I have so many plans for post-retirment life!
Oh, same. I'm striving for early retirement, or at least downgrading to part time work asap. I think about marriage and kids all the time, mostly because of pressure and stigma, but reminding myself of early retirement stops me in my tracks. With a family I'd either have to work to provide or be a housewife, which is just 24/7 work. I value free time more than anything, I have so many things I want to learn, watch, read, do, see, and I want hours of daily alone/down time on top of that. I'm too introverted and inwardly focused to cope with a kid and husband who need me.

Of course, I'm not so cavalier as to assume I'll always feel like this. I know there's a good chance I'll find my hobbies shallow and empty compared to a family once I'm too old to have one (26 now). But I'd rathet regret not having kids than regret having one and hurt the kid in the process. And I've done a lot of research about fostering and would strongly consider it when I'm older, even if I'm not lonely or regretful.

No. 98662

I want a husband and children. My main concern is if things don't work out with my current boyfriend, I'll have to start all over again. I don't want to wait until I'm 30 and then have to get married within the year so I can start having children before it's too late. My mother had early menopause, and I need to be mindful of my fertility.

No. 98667

Honestly I hope I wind up like the OP pic, sans the shitty tattoo and "thought she would marry a rich old guy" part. And maybe not so much wine.
The only part I'm scared of is physically ageing, but that might just be because society treats women who are visibly older like garbage, and there are plenty of clearly older women (40s,50s) who are attractive.

No. 98670

I'm okay with aging, but there are just so many things I haven't done (academics, travelling, etc)
– and that gets me more anxious than not having a family/boyfriend.

No. 98678

>>98650
>Deletes initial post
>responds to us how a villain in what a bot thinks is a Nathaniel Hawthorne style would write
>is obvious pubescent incel
>implies we are children because youre embarrassing

alright. im done responding now. to actually contribute i guess id say i love the thought of getting older. i cant wait to finish everything up and get my life in order and be a sassy older woman. k thx. bye.

No. 98680

>>98588
No, I have a decent job in a stable field and will get a livable pension, am also very fit and once I hit retirement age and my company makes me go into retirement, I'll still be able to make money on the side by shiling diet and fitness advice. I am sort of neurotic about making very long term plans because my childhood was utter chaos, never even knew if I'd still be alive the next day.

>Do you know any women in your family who are total train wrecks later in life?

My mother is an absolute trainwreck, and an old whore. To be fair, she always was, but when she was younger she used her looks to go from one sucker to the next, making men pay for everything. She has a personality disorder but never committed to treatment, and her youth and looks are running out, and she finds it increasingly hard to find a man who will put up with her insanity and rages. She was terrifically abusive and it's what she deserves. I moved too far away from her for her to ever become my responsibility.

tl;dr: don't invest everything in your looks, looks are important, but to survive as you get older education and then a stable job are better bets. Also stop acting crazy, it's never a good look. Imagine being a magic pixie dream girl when you're about to hit forty, full of fading lol so random! tattoos like some of the cows here.

No. 98681

>>98654
>ED becomes more common. It ain't just women who age. Tick-fucking-tock.
From a medical perspective, especially if you're into older men, anons, never go for a guy with a pot belly, a dadbod, or beetus. The first two are signs of metabolic disease, and the latter obviously is. ED is the first symptom often in guys who're not aware they have the beetus yet. They're guaranteed boner killers. Go for younger, fit guys.
It happens in young fat guys or skinny fat guys too: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23681359

I'm not saying start trolling your fitness center for dick, but if I were looking the fitness center would be my best bet to find a guy with similar interests and not dependent on viagra. Don't go for the obvious roiders tho. The problem with viagra is not just that it's pathetic, but that men often take too much, their boners don't deflate for like an hour, and they tear you up trying to prove something.

No. 98685

>implying 40 year old is is Old

yea i'm scared of being 80 and in pain and unable to move because of arthritis but i can't wait being 40 and successful

No. 98690

>>98685
This.

No. 98697

>>98602
It's basically the same shaming tactic as the Pumpkin Spice meme, because fuck women for collectively enjoying something or whatever.

Answering OPs question: No, I don't fear old age. I'm closer to 30 and I would never turn back the clock to relive the more difficult parts of my 20s, I have some level of experience under my belt and am finding it easier to solve problems as I get older. The women in my life that are 40+ are out there having fun and have some wisdom to share, and the ones that aren't doing so hot give me the motivation to do better. I'm not going to fear something inevitable like aging because I'm the one that decides whether I do so gracefully.

No. 98698

>>98602
It's basically the same shaming tactic as the Pumpkin Spice meme, because fuck women for collectively enjoying something or whatever.

Answering OPs question: No, I don't fear old age. I'm closer to 30 and I would never turn back the clock to relive the more difficult parts of my 20s, I have some level of experience under my belt and am finding it easier to solve problems as I get older. The women in my life that are 40+ are out there having fun and have some wisdom to share, and the ones that aren't doing so hot give me the motivation to do better. I'm not going to fear something inevitable like aging because I'm the one that decides whether I do so gracefully.

No. 98699

Men have a biological clock too. Why are people never berating or shaming them about it?

No. 98707

>>98699
They really should. I've known a lot of men who end up all alone in their forties, their own biological clocks ticking, lonely and miserable because they bought into the idea that they would age like wine (lol) and have hot young women throwing themselves at them. Of course, because reality doesn't work that way, they ended up very unhappy. Plus even if they managed to find someone there are health risks associated with having an older father, they aren't clear from these issues either so I think it's hilarious when they try to give women over 30 shit for becoming mothers.

I also really don't understand their obsession with older women ended up fucked up. Most older women, including single ones, are completely functional. My aunt-in-law is an older single woman and she has a lot of friends, is close to family, active in her community, has a job and a home and is happy. She's actually really inspirational to me.

The only aging I fear is getting frail and sick or having dementia or something like that. I sometimes feel some sadness that I'll get wrinkled and all that but I try to keep in mind that a lot of good people who died young probably wished, in their final moments, that they could grow old. It's not a bad thing, it's life.

No. 98722

>>98699
I remind men of this study every chance I get, they're the first to use autist as an insult so they should be aware that old fathers, teenage mothers, and age gaps all significantly increase the risk of autism (more than old mothers).
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/large-study-parent-age-autism-finds-increased-risk-teen-moms
>* Autism rates were 66 percent higher among children born to dads over 50 years of age than among those born to dads in their 20s. Autism rates were 28 percent higher when dads were in their 40s versus 20s.
>* Autism rates were 18 percent higher among children born to teen moms than among those born to moms in their 20s.
>* Autism rates were 15 percent higher in children born to mothers in their 40s, compared to those born to moms in their 20s
>* Autism rates rose still higher when both parents were older, in line with what one would expect if each parent’s age contributed to risk.
>* Autism rates also rose with widening gaps between two parents’ ages. These rates were highest when dads were between 35 and 44 years old and their partners were 10 or more years younger. Conversely, rates rose when moms were in their 30s and their partners were 10 or more years younger.
>The higher risk associated with fathers over 50 is consistent with the idea that genetic mutations in sperm increase with a man’s age and that these mutations can contribute to the development of autism. B

Gets literally no replies every time I post it on 4chan lmao, they'll never stop shilling for middle aged men's right to impregnate teenagers. They don't complain about advanced maternal age because they genuinely care about the health of the mother or child, it's because it's the easiest way to justify (to themselves) fucking underage girls and dismissing anyone past 30. It's amazing how angry they get when women 'selfishly' have kids when they're ready rather than when they're the hottest.

No. 98731

Nearly 27 and so scared I’ll never have a baby. Women who wait til after 30 are dumb af risking so many diseases.

No. 98745

>>98731
You're sounding like the retard here, cause akshually…
https://www.stanfordchildrens.org/en/topic/default?id=older-moms-healthy-babies-1-1901

Don't randomly have a fucking baby while you're not even in a position to care for yourself, especially if you don't have stable health insurance. Once you're settled in a career, somewhere where they legally cannot fire you for taking maternity leave, that's when you have a baby, because that's when you'll be able to afford all the genetic testing to make sure you're not incubating something with deficiencies that will not be out of the house in twenty years. If it's no good, abort.

If you don't eat for two and inhale all the doughnuts, and don't fall for the meme of "resting" during pregnancy, you'll be fine. Get as much exercise as possible, a muscled woman is a woman who can push out a baby and bounce back, a flabby weak one not so much.

No. 98746


No. 98751

>>98745
So aggressive for no reason, lol. Why do you have a stick up your ass and assume the worst?

No. 98752

>>98745
Also this doesn’t contradict women over 30 being far more likely to have genetic defects in the first place, or women over 35 being more likely to miscarry of have an ectopic pregnancy.
Having a baby at 40+ is selfish and retarded anyway.

No. 98753

>>98731
its not that bad and as another anon said genetic testing is an option and continues to advance. Lots of mothers have their first child in their 30s and historically the average maternal age was fairly high because women kept getting pregnant through their 30s and beyond. If you can afford it getting your eggs frozen is also an option if it really concerns you, you can also get fertility counseling to get a better idea of what your fertility is like at the moment, you might be better off than you think or you might more concretely know if your concerns are well advised.

No. 98755

>>98753
Good advice, cheers.
Tbh the other anon seems to have some sort of emotional attatchment to the issue, so angry and presumptuous over literally nothing.

If a 25-year-old woman has a 1 in 1,200 chance of having a baby with Down syndrome; by 35, the risk has increased to 1 in 350; by age 40, to 1 in 100. Personally, that’s significant enough. Genetic testing is great, but it doesn’t prevent the increased risk of ectopics, miscarriages, or gestational diabetes.

It’s also that I don’t want to be an old mum. Not for vanity, but for the kids sake. Being ten years older isn’t going to improve sleepless nights, or stamina to play. Fitness doesn’t prevent aging.

No. 98758

>>98755
that's fair enough, wish you luck settling down anon. Wish it was cheaper to freeze eggs, I can be assured I won't be anywhere near financially ready for kids any time soon and I'm in my mid 20s.

No. 98788

Anyone just not have a biological clock? Reading this thread has been a wild ride.

My mom is wreck and always had been, and the women on my dads side sucked off the dick of Catholicism so hard, that they just now admitted two aunts were gay and in relationship, but only because they broke up. They’re still more put together then my mom, and thankfully since I’m biracial, I look more like them then my mother.

It also doesn’t help that my husbands family has bpd tendencies (borderline dad and sister), while ours is more schizophrenia and aspd (brother). So I could end up creating a second hitler. No thanks, I’ll be the crazy aunt who keeps to herself.

Maybe I’ll adopt one day, but my student loans say nah at the moment.

No. 98793

>>98752
Not if you can afford it. Look at Rachel Weisz, Halle Berry, Janet Jackson.

>>98755
I'm not so much emotionally attached to the older mothers thing, I had mine at 28 and one is enough, but it is a fact that many young women are disgustingly obese and unhealthy during pregnancy, never bounce back, and then blame their and their children's health problems on the kids instead of their lack of self-control.
>I ruined my figure having you, I wish I'd never had you boohoo blubber snot
>You kids ruined my vag busting out and that's why your dad ran off, boohoo abloobloo
The risk for downs as the anon says is 1 in 100, which seems high and downs kids are sweet, but frankly I'd abort, but the number of women who put their babies at risk for adverse outcomes because they are obese before and during pregnancy is much higher than that. If they can't even care for themselves, can't even feed themselves right, they shouldn't be having a child. I guess I was trying to say an older woman who has everything under control is better prepared than a young one who just get pregnant cause why not? /rant

No. 98808

>>98731
dumb ? My mother had me at 36, I know plenty of women who had children (who are just fine) in their 40's. Nowadays, 27 yo are rarely financially stable and mature enough to have kids anyway.


>>98751
>>98752
>why so aggressive
>women who dont want to dedicate their life immidiately to birthing are selfish and retarded

No. 98853

>>98788
Nope. Not just you. I've never felt any sort of compulsion to have a child. I had a traumatic childhood and my Mum has passed on some behaviours to my siblings and myself that have made me quite unbearable in some aspects of life. I don't like children. They are alien to me. I've been around them and have taught them at one point, but I didn't feel anything. Some can be nice but I am too much of a fuck up to inflict that upon an innocent child. I'd rather be a good aunt than a mum. People keep going on about the clock ticking, but as far as I am aware, my clock is entirely broken and I'm happy for it.

No. 98859

I'm scared of the realities of aging (more prone to serious illness like cancer, etc) and inevitably death. That fear gets compounded by watching it happen to my older family members. :( But I've actually enjoyed getting older; I'm far more comfortable in myself physically and mentally than I ever have been, and I hope that continues.

No. 98862

>>98793
I had my first (and only) child at 25, and I totally agree with what you've said. There are so many selfish mothers out there; the most common one being women who have multiple kids, are constantly stressed and unhappy, and somehow thinks the fact her kids get to experience her being unpleasant together makes it all worth it? Then I constantly get "don't you think your LO will want a sibling though??" Looking at your miserable life, no I think they'll be okay without. /Rant
I also planned to abort if the foetus had Down's. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable forcing another human to live with that when I have the privilege of choice.

No. 98877

>>98793
So you just assume that anyone who’s not you is gonna be a fat slobby slutty drug addled mess who is too emotionally retarded to handle a child. Wow, totally not emotionally involved in the issue.

Maybe if you projected less of your own garbage you’d have a better time.


Will you chill the fuck out and stop this narrative you’ve invented of me being a morbidly obese, mentally incompetent, trailer park living, destitute baby factory?
You’re running on nothing but your own weird projection and guesses and you sound insane.
Not wanting extra risk of ectopics, miscarriages, and diabetes isn’t evil, no matter how hard you twist it.


>>98808
27 is not birthing immediately. Choosing to have a child even though it’s medically unwise is selfish. If you can’t see that, you’re probably the type to get knocked up at 45 purely to satisft your own desire for a kid.Sorry your kid will be celebrating your 50th and their 10th the same week. Some women want better outcomes.

What kind of monster doesn’t want to add an extra risk of ectopic pregnancy? Fucking narcissism to aim for a survivable pregnancy.

No. 98883

To all of you late 20s spinsters worrying about muh fertility: if you're still dumb enough to fall for shitty robot bait, then you're not ready for a child.

No. 98884

>>98883
Oh give it a rest already.

No. 98887

No. My childhood and adolescent years were pretty crappy, so as I age everything in life has just been following a general upward trend. I don't even really fear advanced age, because I can't imagine it yet and it seems really normal for very elderly people to lose their faculties. I'd probably pull the plug on myself before it gets to the point where I can't shit on my own though.

I'm lucky that I have a mom who makes an effort to show positivity towards aging and takes great care of herself, two aunts on both sides of my family who are childless and never married and independent in their lives, and two older sisters who put their happiness, needs, and satisfaction above scrambling around to marry some crappy dude because sOcIeTy SaId So, TiCk ToCk. In addition to the women in my family who did chose marriage and children, and managed to balance that with their careers and none of them afaik have gone off the deep end from it, and many are still quite attractive and enjoy life.

I will say that I have felt little bubbles of maternal instinct kick in the past couple of years, and I chose to volunteer with children. I reminds me that I'm in no way, shape, or form cut out for the self-sacrifice childbearing comes with and I fucking hate fortnite even though I don't really know what it is lel.

No. 98889

>>98883
>spinsters
Lol

No. 98890

>>98889
This one anon has such a bug up their ass about any scenario they have entirely imagined. It’s probably miserable for them to be this bitter and to project so hard, so constantly.

No. 98977

I don't understand the asshurt about older mothers. My mother had me at 35 and my brother at 39 and we both turned out fine. You can't control how your genetics can affect your reproducing capabilities, but not living a degenerate lifestyle does wonders.

No. 98987

American/western woman have fucked up their fertility by drinking the birth control kool aid and incels highjacked that bs to claim it's basically impossible to have normal kids at 27. When my parents and grandparents were living in the ussr it was considered normal for woman to have babies until 35, and this was a culture where it was expected that you would be married by 19. Not trashing America cause I live here for my whole life. That being said tho if I don't have children by 35 I'm not going to pursue it. I agree with anons that it's selfish to condem another human being to living with disabilities, this world is already cruel and shitty enough.

No. 98989

>>98977
>>98987

It’s like you’re choosing to ignore the parts where older mothers have more frequent miscarriages, ectopics, and complications just to shit on women.

Nobody said it’s impossible, just repeatedly pointed out that there are known risks. You guys are so fucking tender over other women’s choices lol.

No. 98997

>>98989

> some anons pointing out that older mother asshurt is a little dramatic

>some anons pointing out that it is possible to take precautionary measures to have children a little later
>no one is denying any risks
>"you're shitting on women's choices!"

??? hun, Idk if we're the tender ones here.

No. 98998

>>98997
Holy shit it’s beyonf being obtuse you’re just dense.
Precautionary measures don’t prevent ectopics, miscarriages, increased likelihood of gestational diabetes etc etc etc.
you’re acting like all women that have kids before 40 are degenerates who eat nothing but maccas and smoke crack.

The fittest, healthiest forty year old is still more likely to have an ectopic pregnancy or
a spontaneous abortion than a regular 28 year old. The projection you guys are forcing here is unreal, it’s almost sad how badly you wanna force this shit.

No. 98999

>>98998

>no one is denying any risks associated with older mothers

>this ho still keep sperging

Dear god. Who even said that all women who have kids before 40 are crackheads or something? I pointed out "degenerate lifestyles" because if you have one you will not only fuck up your health in general but that will include reproductive capabilities. Obviously a normal 28 year old is less likely to have those complications over a 40 year old, bitch who was arguing otherwise? Are you retarded or something? All other anons have been saying is that this asshurt is a little dramatic because with lifestyle choices in your control, genetics, and with the advances in medical science it is possible to have healthy children a little later.

No. 99003

>>98999
Holy shit you’re so dense.
Nobody, even the anon who was concerned for their future fertility (like a monster reee) has denied that being healthy, and genetic testing lead to better outcomes for old mums.

Anons basically said women younger than forty are assholes for giving a shit about having a better pregnancy and less chance of the baby dying because women under forty can’t be sane and stable apparently.

Please though, repeat your one point that has nothing to do with the original anons point about fertility concerns with aging.

No. 99006

>>99003

That anon you are asshurt over is more mad about hamplanet moms than younger ones. That anon also said to wait it out until a stable career, which for many people happens between 30-35. What are you crying about again?

No. 99011

>>99006
You’re crying over something that’s not a problem. Why run to defend one crazy anon who thinks all women under 45 are obese trailer park welfare queens and that one anon wanting a child before 30 means that someone is an incel brainwashed retard?

You’ve latched onto something just to argue despite your point being basically nothing. You’re not refuting or disproving the things anon said they are concerned about, just babbling on about how we can abort genetic fuck ups and fitter women have better outcomes.

What actual point are you making other than that you’re an obtuse ass?

No. 99012

>>99010

LMAO, I suppose this is what happens when you have nothing more to add.

No. 99013

this smells like bot
but no, aging is something everyone does and goes through, dunno why incels think we're personally offended and terrified of aging, since my entire female side of the family looks great at 60 and I take care of myself, I'll assume I will too

plus my boyfriend likes older women, and if something happens to him I have a list of men who like MILFs, stay mad bots

No. 99014

>>99011

All the sperging in your replies to me are you basically exaggerating what that other anon said. This entire back and forth between us is because you are sperging about what that other anon said. My inital post >>98977 is literally not stating anything other than people are being a little dramatic. There are no claims of "having a baby at 27 is the same as 40" and "there are absolutely no risks involved with having a baby at an older age" but yet you are acting like because I didn't explicit acknowledge any of that I must be arguing against it. If I'm obtuse, you are a crybaby ass bitch.

No. 99015

>>99014
Could you repeat yourself yet again? I’m not sure you’ve made your non-point enough times. Someone might not realise how much your ass is hurting over this.

No. 99016

>>99015

Are you still partaking in activism against that anon who you think is oppressing younger mothers because she allegedly thinks all of them smoke crack and live in trailer parks and apparently thinks that we should wait til we're 55 to have kids?

No. 99018

>>99016
Once more with feeling.

No. 99019

>>99018
Are you knocked up right now? Is that why you were so emotional earlier? I hope you have a safe delivery sweetie. And no, I don't think you are trailer trash who smokes crack.

No. 99020

>>99019
Feel better yet? Do you need to get some more bitterness out? Cmon anon it’s okay. Let it out. What’s got you so riled up that you’re assblasted over nothing?

No. 99021

op's picture doesn't need to be a failure tf, that's just a lesbian aunt who is single

No. 99023

>>99020

I don't mean to pull the "No U" but uh….I'm not the one ass-blasted over nothing considering I didn't spend a considerable amount of time thinking that someone was calling me an obese trailer park welfare queen.

No. 99024

>>99023
And yet you’re still arguing over it, making no point other than how you’re weirdly invested in being part of the spat.

It’s one thing to sperg out, the way you’re sperging about sperging is like meta autism.

No. 99025

>>99024
There would be no "spat" if I wasn't replied to with theatrics.

No. 99026

>>99025
Why are you still arguing anon? What are you getting out of this? Is it just hunger for bait or do you think you’re making a point?

No. 99027

>>99026

Considering no real "points" have been discussed in the last few posts, that ship has sailed a long time ago and you can't even call this an "argument." At this point I'm replying because I'm browsing on lolcow. You wanna tell me why you continue to reply to me?

No. 99030

>>99027
What are you getting out of this?
Is it a last word thing?
Are you really lonely?
Do you think you’re achieving something? Or winning?
Why would you keep going after being told you’ve stuffed yourself on bait?

I’m so friggin interested now, you’re so weird I wanna understand it.

No. 99037

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>>98588
Only for fairly petty/vain reasons, really. I'm low-key afraid of getting older because I feel like I have some somewhat childish interests and hobbies that are only really acceptable so-long as I'm still relatively youthful and cute. I'm a lesbian so I'm not too worried about not being married by [x] age, nor do I want children.

Fearful of aging mostly for vain reasons, I don't want to look any older than I already am. Even though that's impossible, I try to comfort myself in that both my parents have aged fairly well. So with any luck, I will too.

No. 99039

>>98989
Lmao did you read farther then one line in to what I wrote?

All the power to you if you wanna pop out several kids by 22 because you think it's healthier, but perpetuating the idea that woman's whole reproductive health is garbage after mid-late 20s is just not in line with reality. Even fucking Plato wrote in the Republic that woman's breeding age should be fixed between 20 and 40. Until incels and redpillers started gathering en mass on the internet and sperging over barely legal porn it was common knowledge that women can and do have normal kids after 30 the majority of the time. And I personally think after 36 is too old so I don't even agree with Plato.

No. 99040

>>99039
Who said anything about popping out an entire litter before 22?
Still banging on about random assumptions that aren’t relevant. Get help.

No. 99041

>>99040
Not her but considering you/your ilk have spent the whole thread moving the goalposts to 40 when the original post >>98731 made 30 the limit, you don't really have the right to complain.

No. 99042

>>99041
All I’m saying is that it’s not bad or incel brainwashing to want to have a kid at say, 24-28 as opposed to waiting til 30-40 if you’re capable of handling a baby in your 20s.
Y’all spergs have added whatever personal issues you have on top, I just don’t want an unnecessary ectopic risk. Sue me.

That’s got nothing to do with someone losing their tits over fat women, poor women, incels thinking 14 is prime fucking age, women who pop out babies they don’t want, or whatever else y’all have lumped into this. Seriously, get help.

No. 99043

>>99042
Why are you giving yourself this narrow, reasonable time frame while expanding everyone else's time frame to 40 years old? Of course 24-28 is a good time to have a kid. If you apply that 4 year time frame to the other side of the argument, it would be 30-34 - which is also a good time to have a kid, and is when most women have their first kid these days. Not fucking 40. It's not a death sentence to have a kid at that age but it's clearly NOT what most anons are planning for and not what they are arguing in favour of. Your arguments only work when you use a pregnancy at 40 as a strawman. They don't apply to 30 year olds even if you think they're miscarrying all over the place, and 30 should be the limit we are discussing since that's what the original post stated.

No. 99045

30yo here. My age doesn't bother me at all.
You know how society expects women to feel ashamed and hide their age when they get older? That's the dumbest thing in my opinion. I feel proud when I tell people I've had my best friend for 16 years or that I've been into my favorite hobby for 20 years. My boyfriend is much younger than me and he loves hearing my stories and seeing my photobooks from before he was even born.
Also don't be fooled by people saying men embrace aging like it's a blessing. I know plenty of guys my age who get super depressed at the idea of turning 30. I'm happy to say I've deal with it way better than most men around me did. Certain people want you to be unhappy and insecure, but you really don't have to be.

No. 99047

I'm 24 in a couple of days and to be frank I am afraid of aging. I'm not a sight for sore eyes right now and my whole family aged like shit so I'm going to be really ugly in my 30s, there's no escaping that. I'm also afraid of my mental health worsening and becoming schizophrenic since I'm at a higher risk once I'm older. Stuff like dementia and alzheimers scares the shit out of me too.
Concerning the biological clock, well, I'm not one to marry since I'm a lesbian in a country where it's basically illegal and I very much dread the idea of having a child of my own (I have a severe phobia, but I also don't want to risk the health of that kid, see high risk of schizophrenia and all). If I ever get my maternal instincts, I think I would adopt, because at least I wouldn't have to worry about passing down my numerous illnesses to a kid.

No. 99054

Dear farmers who posted in this thread, please never ever get any children!

No. 99072

>>99054
*have
FTFY

No. 107043

>>98590
It was a meme before those assholes found it, you think they invented it?

A friend of my mom's is a living embodiment of the cool wine aunt OP posted, and a near 40yo lady at my old job was stuck in the cycle until she married some divorced fat guy with kids. Now she is a not-cool wine stepmother since all she does is tweet pics of her drinking wine. Before it was all about her travels and uploading gopro of her going zip lining or some other basic shit.

>>98591
>and I know men are shitty about age

Everyone is shitty about age, men get maybe 10 years more than women and after that they are too old for most people. Only robots think old men have it easy since they already failed to get any in their 20s and 30s so they now think they be slayin' pussy in their 40s and 50s.

No. 107053

I look forward to getting older and getting my shit together more.
My bf has an older women fetish so I'll be fine in that regard.

No. 107057

I'm 26 and the only thing that terrifies me is that I won't get my shit together before it's too late for me to have children. I'd love to have kids but I'm a huge mess with no job experience or a degree, I'm probably going to be over 30 when I can concider myself stable enough to start a family. And I don't mean that being over 30 is ancient for that, but my family has history of fertility problems, cervical growths, endometriosis etc. that start showing up around that age.

Look-wise I'm ok with getting old, the only thing that will bother me is getting wrinkly and loose skin on my face because it's gonna make putting makeup on a lot harder.

No. 107097

every time this thread gets bumped, i read it as "bioshock general"

>>107057
>I'm 26 and the only thing that terrifies me is that I won't get my shit together before it's too late for me to have children. I'd love to have kids but I'm a huge mess with no job experience or a degree, I'm probably going to be over 30 when I can concider myself stable enough to start a family.

I'm 28 but otherwise, same. I have a chronic illness that means I can't even completely take care of myself day to day. Taking care of a tiny human in my current state just wouldn't be an option. I'm learning more about how to manage my condition all the time so there is hope that I won't be as helpless in a few years, but I have to be realistic.
I'm still not even sure if I want kids, but the thought of not having the option is starting to worry me. I think I'll still have pretty good odds of conceiving 8-12 years from now, seeing as my mum, maternal aunts and cousins have been able to conceive into their mid 40s. One of my paternal aunts has a chromosomal disorder that made her infertile, and her sister only had one kid around age 30 so it's kind of a toss up there.
idk if you read the alt thread on /snow/ but angela benedict made a video recently about trying to get pregnant at 39. she has to get all these tests and screenings done. I've never looked at someone that age and thought they were old enough to have trouble conceiving. She looks a little younger than she is, so maybe that's just messing with my head even more. It woke me up a little and made me think more seriously about this.

No. 107227

i wouldn't mind being the aunt in the pic.
all of the women in my family marry early, i am almost past that age but it doesn't bother me.

No. 140685

I really don't want to settle down with any man. Why? I don't want a man in my life that long. Nobody's worth the annoyance of commitment and I'm not saying that to whine, I just could never realistically see myself sustaining interest in a man that long. I'm sure I'll get pregnant at some stage seeing as I don't subscribe to the birth control meme. We'll see how that goes down.

No. 140688

I don't plan to have biological children so fuck the clock.

No. 140690

I used to. But now not so much. Will I have children or not I don't know.

But my mom has a friend that never married and had children and now she spends her time helping animals. And honestly that sound very appealing to me.

No. 140694

I'm in my thirties and still set on not having any kids. My only brother is 36 and doesn't plan any either. I think both of us were put off parenthood by our own childhoods. My dad has some sort of undiagnosed issue that makes him insanely sensitive to mess, noise and things being 'out of place'

We grew up having to tiptoe around, stay out of his way, keep our belongings out of his sight and be practically silent whenever he was home. I felt like my presence was unwanted. He was stressed from work so he constantly shot down anyone trying to talk to him at home?? Based on that I have no idea how to parent, didn't even realise how strange my own upbringing was til I was 20 and in therapy after a breakdown.

Aging, in terms of appearance doesn't bother me too much. Starting to notice gray hairs popping up and I think it'd be cool to just let them grow in naturally.

No. 140705

what's up with this incel thread?

No. 140709

>>140705
lol you think you'll never get old?

No. 140710

>>140709
i am aware of the concept of time but i'm not as insecure about it as you and OP

No. 143048

I’m mid 30s now. I don’t hate children, but I don’t really plan on having a family or being in a relationship where that would be requisite. I get fulfillment from close relationships with friends and family well enough. Truthfully, though, there’s enough bad and potentially inheritable conditions in my family that I’d feel like reproduction would be irresponsible even if I were younger. While I have seen people think in the same pattern as OP, I can’t relate to it myself.

No. 143053

i'm 30, love kids but don't want any, and currently happy single. i live alone and am okay. for some reason i've gotten hornier than ever though, but i don't believe in casual sex so i'm sort of looking for a relationship. i'd like to connect to someone on a romantic level again. but i'm not in a rush.

honestly the older i get the less fucks i give. i'm at a pretty good spot, mentally, in my life.

No. 143074

I just turned 30 and had a moment of 'oh my god I wasted my 20s and I'm getting old' but honestly I don't mind so much now, I'm looking forward to my 30s. I don't want kids so I'm not worried about my biological clock running out. I do kind of fear getting older but I'm adopting more healthy habits so hopefully I'll be healthier and happier in my 30s/40s and further than I ever was as a teenager or in my 20s

No. 143076

Meh, if shit doesn't work out while I'm still young I will probably kill myself anyway so I'm not scared of The Wall™ or any of that shit pathetic males boast about to make themselves feel better about getting facefucked by it themselves.

Are we still not allowed to report scrote bait btw? My radars are going haywire here.

No. 143088

Not so much worried about aging physically but I feel like I'm loosing time to do the things I want to. To study film/art/philosophy/psychology/linguistics and to become an academic requires a number of years dedicated to a single topic. I'm too all over the shop (and admittedly probably not as smart as I think i am) to dedicate all my time ton that. I'm definitely worried about being left behind in a 'approximate knowledge about many things' hovel

No. 143092

>>98588
my looks are my best quality (i'm a shit person not smart) and i am SO scared of getting fat and old and alone. i have a ton of childless aunts and i really don't want to end up riding that wave.

No. 143095

I feel like as I get older I'm looking younger in comparison to my age. I'm 32 and get mistaken for early 20s. Body wise, I get random twitches of pain here and there but it only lasts about a minute and happens maybe 2 times every few weeks.

No. 143102

>>143092
learn some self-worth. Take up hobbies that have nothing to do with your looks (not makeup etc).

No. 143106

Childfree life is the best life. Nice b8 m8.

No. 143112

The incel shit in this thread about how horrible it is to have kids after thirty is really pissing me off. I was born when my mom was 37, and I'm doing just fine. In fact, because my mom waited to have kids, she was more financially stable and wise by the time she started a family.

When women choose to have kids and whether or not they have them at all is their own goddamn business and no one else's. Having to push a person out of your vagina fucking sucks and children are expensive, so let people make their own damn choices about it.

No. 143119

>>143112
The only thing I would consider is how various health statistics show a marked increase in risk of intellectual disability/other disabilities. That risk kicks in closer to 40 than 30 though. I think when I looked into it the age of the father actually played a larger role in autism rates, they multiply fourfold with an older father.

My mom had me at 38 and she got breast cancer at 52 and died, they give women over 50 mammograms and other cancer screenings because menopause greatly increases cancer risk. Same with bowel cancer screenings for people over 50. Again just something to consider. Entering into a whole new risk category for various diseases before your kids have grown is worrying but again something to worry about closer to 40 than 30.

I'm in my early 30s, childless and not ready anytime soon. Likely to stay that way based on my worries about inheriting the same fate as my mom and dying while I still have a teen. I really can't judge any woman trying to weigh up the pros and cons of waiting. It's a difficult balance to judge and your own personal circumstances and family history fit into it in ways that strangers can't see.

No. 143130

i’m excited to get older so people will leave me alone and ignore me. also this thread stinks of scrote.

No. 143143

>>143130
I feel this

No. 143476

I don't want kids but I do want to get marred. I'm 30 now and getting a little worried. Finding a guy who doesn't want children BUT still believes in marriage seems borderline impossible.

No. 143480

>>143476
what is the point.

No. 143482

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>buttmad inceloid preventively seething about whatever it is the Stacy who rejected him in college might enjoy in the future

I'll save you time: there will never be an age when she considers texting you back.

No. 143486

>>143480
How is marriage with children any different than one without? It's the same point.

No. 143490

Not really, no.
At 29 I've recently realised I probably won't have a lifelong male partner. You have to give up way too much in the name of companionship, and personally I don't think it's worth it.
Not only do I consider most men unattractive, but they have an unwarranted confidence about them that could only be brought about through a lifetime of being told they and their cock are so awesome and deserve the world.
I'd say I've got a pretty good male picker. They've always been equal rights advocates, sexually respectful, had humility (for a male), were clean and had no issue with financially supporting me or paying for all dates without holding it over my head, along with being (imo) good looking. But they have the emotional maturity of children.
They struggle to express themselves, get pissy without knowing why, basically have me play therapist while they never improve.
It's just expected for women to have all the emotional maturity. To quietly deal with their male partners emotional dysfunctions. If they lash out you need to give them space, be forgiving and MAYBE they'll tell you why they're annoyed so you can do all the work to fix it. Meanwhile you express what bothers you so they can deflect, gaslight and MAYBE be willing to work on it if it doesn't involve tackling their unresolved insecurities.

And this is on top of risking being with a guy who's messy, sexually entitled, a misogynist etc etc. Which is a HUGE portion of the population.

I think it's cultural so I have hope for future generations of women, but it's unlikely in my lifetime.

I think partnering up and reproducing are the main age related pressures for a woman (from a cultural perspective, but ofc for me personally). Now that i've let go of that concept I'm very much looking forward to going through life. I'll probably have men, but they'll be very come and go.

No. 143495

>>143486
Marrying and having kids seems equally painful to me that’s why I can’t see the point.
You could find a guy that’s infertile or has some kind of genital disorder I guess. This reminds me though that you actually can find a guy to marry, felice the banana girl managed to force her ex husband to take a vasectomy.

No. 143506

>>143490
Committing to a man just means limiting your own options anyway. If you can have a myriad of low commitment partners who pay your bills it's absolutely an ideal arrangement imo.

No. 143510

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>>143506
>myriad of partners that pay for your shit
>upwards of 29

No. 143515

>>143510
stop reading incel forums.look around you. women do get uglier with age but it doesn't matter bc men are desperate as fuck. i know 40 yr old women with simps.

No. 143524

>>143510
You almost sound convinced!

No. 143529

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I can’t wait when I’m old cool grandma who is too old to deal with any bullshit.
I’ll spend my time gardening and hanging with my 34 pet birds and smoking pot for my hip pains. Then my grandkids come to visit and I’ll tell them stories.

I just want to be a crone already

No. 143536

No
Luckily, I'm currently old enough to understand that life only gets easier the more your learn, aka the longer you live.
Only men and children worry about aesthetic in age

and yeah, everyone knows train wreck bitches, who doesn't

No. 143540

>>143515
My 70 year old grandma has orbiters and she's not even exceptionally attractive.

No. 143543

As a man, I need for someone to ban me,a friend linked me here and o don't like it(ok)

No. 143544

I moved to a rural area a couple years ago and noticed there's this weird surplus of lonely old men who've never married. They're pensioners but honestly a pain in the arse because a lifetime of living alone has turned them into oddballs and they're desperate for any woman to talk to them. My friend works in a local bar and doesn't get paid enough to pretend to care about talking to lonely old clingers every shift. My dad lives in a rural area in another part of our country and again it's full of the same lonely old men who havent dated in decades and havent washed in months. It's a well known thing.

So I see men talking about women needing to hurry up and lock down a marriage and babies well before hitting thirty and then I look at my real life environment.. yeah guys worry about yourselves. It's not something I noticed as much living in a city but around here they're all cuckoo from a lack of real human contact.

No. 143550

>>143529
Are you me? That’s my dream!
I hope I can be a healthy grandma that has pretty pastel colored hair, and a gang of other grandmas that goes to bars to make the bartenders play music from the 2000’s
the name’s silver eagles

No. 143635

I wish I was already old so society can leave me the fuck alone
I'm looking forward to it

No. 144134

This thread made me think of Howl's Moving Castle. I think it's kind of cute and inspirational how Sophie learns to be her real self from turning into an old woman. I hope it doesn't take me my whole life to gain confidence, but I also hope life is exciting and fresh even when I'm old!

No. 144135

The idea of getting old one day is pretty cool to me, ngl. I've read that women get happier as they get older and I'm looking forward to the day when I just don't give a fuck anymore. But the idea that I still have to be attractive past the age of 45 like Jennifer Lopez or Lisa Bonet is terrifying. I just want to fast forward to the white hair, wrinkles and achy joints stage.

No. 144156

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>>144135
Damn, I just now found out that Lisa Bonet and Jason Momoa aren't the same age. I mean, it's probably obvious and I'm just stupid but… I never noticed just by looking at them together.

No. 144157

>>143515
You kinda sound like an incel yourself.

No. 144161

>>144157
All of the whores here are femcels who will get the decline of society into rape and murder as they desire.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 144172

>>144135
>I still have to be attractive past the age of 45
no you don't. you don't even "have to" be attractive now.

No. 144175

>>143544
As a woman, no matter how old we get there will always be someone willing to give us love and sex for free. Many women end up single as they get older simply because they have very high standards. As a man if you don’t have any money you will basically become invisiable after 40.

No. 144177

>>144172
You are technically correct. I just think that there are certain benefits to being attractive. It's more of a personal thing, really.

No. 144178

>>144175
>as a woman
>"we"
>MeN wiTHouT moNEy aRe InViSiBle tO woMen

why are there so many incels on this forum lol

No. 144180

>>144178
I didn’t say men are invisible to women. A qt who looks like a young Leonardo DiCaprio will get tons of attention from women, for free. Once men lose their looks and get old most women will give them no attention unless they’re rich. Single Broke men after 40 pretty much become invisible to women.

No. 144181

>>144180
Wow anon, who hurt you? Just get a sugar daddy if you’re so desperate for money.

No. 144182

>>144181
It’s just the truth. Men who go on and on about how they’re gonna age like wine and get 18 year old cuties at 40 are looking at rich celebrities. They’re not understanding that those men have those women because they have money. Men would be better off just meeting a girl while they’re young and staying with her forever but they think their options will get better with age.

No. 144183

>>144180
>>144182
Yeah, it's not though. That's just what people who spend to much time on the internet and never leave the house end up thinking after watching too much youtube. There's always gonna be tons of broke addicts, mediocre old men and whatnot who will find one or several women who for whatever reason are willing to put up with their shit. I see it every day. I don't even understand why people still think that men need money to get women.

No. 144185

>>144183
Yeah it those broke addicts are usually attractive young men. Most women aren’t going to give any attention to a guy in his 40s like that.

No. 144189

>>144185
Not really, anon, it truly depends on the kind of person that man in his 40’s is like. If he’s kind and not a slob, I’m pretty sure he will find someone around his age, hell, maybe even someone younger than him.

But if a man in his 40’s is a fucking asshole who just wants a living sex doll to blow him every second and to treat him like a fucking king, then he will have less options.

Of course, anyone can buy a woman or a man with enough money, but it will be just a transaction, not a healthy relationship.

Then again, you seem way too stuck in your idea of ugly rich bastards, so good luck finding that druglord sugar daddy that will give you those Victoria’s secret’s discount bras, I guess.

No. 144190

>>144185
Men over 40 shouldn't be trying to hook up with women anyway. At that age their sperm is useless and they're balding. They should settle down when they're young and their market value is high. Not all men are meant to breed so if they couldn't settle down when young it's because they are at the weaker end of the gene pool and they have been phased out, as they were meant to be.

No. 144194

>>144189
Why do you assume I'm talking about myself? I'd rather be homeless than fuck someone I'm not attracted to. I just know how the world really works. Women will always be more desired than men at any age.

No. 150378

>>98588
lolcow is full of landwhales that will never marry, lmao, they just cope about what you posted as we can see here >>98590(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 150380

Old age has always been my biggest fear. There’s a lot of suicide and mental illness amongst women in my family, I’m almost certain I’ll be the same simply because I can’t even accept the physical/appearance related aspects of aging

No. 150395

Honestly I can’t wait to grow older. Women in my family still look young into middle age so I’m not entirely worried about aging, along with just keeping up skincare and fitness.

I want to be the type of mature woman with wisdom and grace who young women can look up to and ask for advice from. I’m sick of Karens who are jealous of younger people and act like bitter hags. Also looking forward to eyes being off me and just different expectations about my appearance and sexuality.

Don’t know any “trainwrecks” personally.

No. 150410

I never feared getting older until I noticed I lost all my resilience and am an anxious mess.
I remember feeling proud in my 20s how I could bounce back from anything, believe me those skeletons come back to haunt you, especially if your life doesn’t pan out the way you expected… which happens to the best of us.
IMO the stereotypical life choices that we’re expected to make (have a career, get married, buy house, have kids by x age) fuck us up the most, especially millennials

No. 150786

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I'm afraid of being alone in old age, but honestly the idea that this is somehow a woman issue is a product of scrote delusions and peter pan fantasies dictating the conversation on the issue for 50+ years, and decades of retarded hollywood movies were a 20 year old girl decides for some unknown reason to get together with some shriveled old scrotesack like Autumn in New York. The alcoholic cat lady with no husband who screechs about how there are no good men left is a common trope in our society and TBH woman have had 30-40+ years to prepare for that. Most women I know have accepted that they may be that person and have made some kind of previsionary plans about what they want to do with their life should they be childless and unmarried until death. It's my observation that american men, outside of zoomers, have no perception whatsoever that they could end up alone and unwanted for being fucking old and washed up no matter how much $$ they have. They don't seem to understand the culture has changed to the point where almost no young/attractive women left that would be desperate enough to marry any man for financial stability or to not be that weirdo "single woman" like it was for old fucks back in the day. The third world is also running out of young women too b/c of asia's 30+ years of femicide and former USSR no longer being a shithole, the two of the three places of last resort for wife hunters who begin to realize the male wall exists. I'm waiting for the old man incel apocalypse, I hope I'm wrong but I can literally the US looking like India in another 10-15 years.

No. 150848

>>150786
There is literally nothing better than being a grown, childless, unmarried woman with stable finances. Fuck scrotes.

No. 151231

>29
>unmarried
>no children
>virgin
>still lives with her parents
>shares room with 20-year old brother and 15-year old sister
>23-year old brother has his own room with his 7-year old son
>son beats up 29-year old aunt when he feels like it

Ah, such is life

No. 151277

>>150848

They're supposedly the happiest demographic.

I watched my older sister panic in her mid-30's. She married a great guy, but then for some reason, also had children because that was the condition I guess for marriage. Her life is just like… over. Both of their lives are over. By the time their kids are 18, they'll both be in their 50's. Why would you sign up for that?

It's inspired me so much away from ever doing that to myself. I don't want to give up on life and become a vessel for some dude's delusions of immortality through his offspring.

No. 151278

>>143515

You actually get more orbiters with age because there are fewer and fewer available women in your age bracket. Especially if you manage not to get fat and can afford a face lift.

No. 151298

>>151231
You got beat up by a 7 year old?

No. 151302

>>151277
believe it or not, people (not all) actually enjoy raising kids

No. 152168

I don’t know exactly when it happened but I’ve definitely stopped being able to pass for a teenager. Sometime in the last two years or so I’ve lost a lot of my baby fat and I’ve started to see a bit of a bag under my eyes and I’m definitely noticing my skin losing its elasticity. I’m still pretty young (22) but I think my sudden noticeable aging has been triggered by some recent eczema flare ups caused by stress. The only thing I have going for me right now is that I’m asian and my mom looked pretty youthful before she lost weight in her 60s.

No. 152170

>>152168
Wow, you're a normal human being, congrats.

No. 152173

Do you fear your old age? If so, why?
I don't, I take care of myself and have everything straight, I have nothing to fear

Do you know any women in your family who are total train wrecks later in life?
Most women who claim to be hot shit growing up are now miserable trainwrecks and single moms who either live with their grandparents or just have shitty living arrangements. Basically the less you have your life revolve around men the better your living situation will be when you get old

No. 152174

>>152173
I am because due to a lot of factors my life won't start until i'm 26+. Mainly i'mbummed out because i won't be able to date until i move out at that age bracket (with luck) and i won't be able to look my best or experience certain things with a gf.
I feel like i was robbed of a normal childhood, teens and young adult phase. They won't come back and every day they escape a bit more.

No. 152180

>>98588
YES I fear aging. I fear looking old and my mom aged like shit but I'm not sure if it's because she smokes around 2 packs a day and eats like shit. I try my best to maintain my looks (skincare, sunscreen and try to eat kind of healthy) but I think I'll age like crap because I'm white and I have a chubby baby face now but those faces actually tend to age more poorly than refined mature faces actually. I'm 21 but I somewhat miss being able to make mistakes and being able to grow without being judged for "being so old already you should know this by now!" I also worry about my health and how I notice people around me will pass and it's frightening. Men (not that I fully care but in certain aspects like career I do) will treat me even worse if I become older. Sorry for the sperg but this is a major fear and problem I have considering how the media treats older women and how life moves on but sometimes it's hard to see it fully happening! I remember my mom being younger and BAM suddenly she's actually at risk for serious health problems with her age and I do need to worry about her passing.

No. 152181

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>Do you fear your old age? If so, why?

Not really, only thing that I fear is getting a big illness/being in chronic pain. I hate children to the point of running away because my first instinct to an annoying child to slam dunk them. And I despise marriage due to shitty controlling dad and pathetic handmaiden mother, never getting married. The most I will entertain is getting a cute bf whos ok with Never putting his duck in me. I want to enjoy life with lady friends.

>Do you know any women in your family who are total train wrecks later in life?


Most are slave-ish and cucks for sky daddy. Not total trainwrecks, but too pathetic to interact with regularly.

No. 152200

u guys thinking about the future n shit? must be nice

No. 152201

>>152170
sorry that you’re bitter about aging like mayonnaise in the sun. too bad you’re not normal like the rest of us.

No. 152202

>>152201
Kek the only ppl who are terrified of ageing having nothing better going in their lives so thy just past on their youth.

No. 152219


No. 152229

>>152202
and you don’t have anything else to do other than bump the thread with irrelevant garbage and pretend you’re not the same? get a job.

No. 152261

I actually look forward to getting older and wiser. I was a stupid shit as a teenager and in my early 20s.

No. 152279

In my thirties but I pass as being much younger. I don't even think it's all looks related. I have an anxiety disorder and alot of that anxiety centres around social interactions (even the smallest interactions) so I think the fact that I don't 'carry myself with confidence' plays a large role in it.

31 but I feel like I'm just not seen for who I am. I would like to catch up at some point. Being perceived as younger isn't a positive to me.

No. 152280

I'm not scared of looking older but I'm terrified of my health deteriorating. All the 40-50 year olds I know complain about random pain and it scares me.

No. 152400

I'm only worried about aging because I don't want to turn into my mother, who's not even 50 and has been complaining for 15 years about being over the hill and used up. She's not either of those things. I've tried to make sure I'm not on track to base my whole self-esteem on whether men find me attractive.

Also because I'm 27 and still find gross early 20s boys attractive, I think how much they annoy me will soon outweigh how hot I find them, but before that happens I want to make plenty of happy memories for when I'm a dirty old woman.

I'm absolutely sure my 30s will be better than my 20s, as long as I remember to keep applying SPF every day.

No. 152401

I'm 25 and I know it's not objectively old but so many people around me behave like it is (I'm not from a western country). Also the fact that I can't get my life together and I feel like there's no time left, I dropped out of college because of health problems and now I'm afraid to go back, and I know pople will always judge me if I won't get higher education.

No. 152424

women in my family age well and my grandma was still good looking well into her 60's, she kind of looked better than her young days honestly. if you look after your hair and keep it long that definitely helps, she always had really beautiful hip length red hair, never left the house without makeup. that and of course staying thin and not giving into post menopause weight gain.

i cant say im looking foward to becoming a prune, but i welcome MILF status and being a stylish mature lady with their life on track

No. 152505

>>152401
I can relate anon, I was in a very similar situation wrt to dropping out of university. I'm 27 now and just gone back to finish my degree. It's a bit weird because my classmates are much younger, even the TAs are a bit younger, but the benefit of completing your education and moving forward with your academic/career goals outweighs everything else (if you're in the position to take it on).

Sometimes I feel ridden with guilt for not completing my degree sooner because I feel like I've fallen behind on everything, like having a career and making good money so I can afford to live in a nicer apartment without roommates, afford to travel, or to consider having children. I'd like to start a family someday, I'd like my parents to see me through that, but as the years pass I'm coming to grips with the possibility that this just isn't in the cards for me.

Even though I'm doing much better now, I kind of resent that my late teens and 20s have been spent struggling with addiction and mental health issues.

No. 152509

I'm fearful of my age for sure. There's a lot of contradicting facts about when the best time to have children is (for some context, I'm 29) and it stresses me out sometimes. I'm torn between still enjoying my child-less life and having a successful career, having kids and disappointing my family by having children outside of marriage, or leaving it too late because I want to 1. be a home owner 2. be married 3. be financially secure before I start a family.
My fiancé just wants me to be ready first, so there is no pressure from him, but I feel the older I get, the slimmer my chances are to conceive.
Anyone else feel the same?

No. 152535

>>152509
yeah i also worry about this because i know i want kids but also know im currently a disaster and it will take time to get into a stable enough place to have them, plus it takes sometimes years off of birth control to regain fertility. your fertility doesn't go down much by 30 though so it honestly isn't an issue, maybe see a doctor about it if you can though, it would suck to wait a few years and find out you have fertility issues that need to be adressed first

No. 152541

I'm less worried about my looks and more worried about how crushed I'm going to be when my mom dies.

No. 152549

>>152509
I would love to have children, but I'm in my late 20s and I don't see how I could get my life together within the next 5 years so that I might be able to support a family


>>152541
This is one my major concerns as well. The mere thought of my mom and dad dying instantly brings tears to my eyes and a crushing feeling in my chest. Very few people around me seem to be able to relate to this sentiment

No. 152559

>>152541
i'm having similar fears about my grandparents who pretty much raised me. they're both 87 and in great health, but i'm 27 and they aren't gonna live forever and it scares the shit out of me. that's the part i hate about aging, i don't care about how i'll too much, i'm just terrified of my family dying all around me and having no control over it.

No. 152573

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>>152559
All my grandparents died very recently in short succession and it's such a bizarre, melancholy feeling.
I loved my paternal grandparents and I loved visiting them/staying at their family house as a child, now the house has been sold and walking past it whenever I visit my hometown makes me feel so weird. I have this urge to walk into the yard and say hello but then I remember nobody I know lives there anymore. My father and my aunt haven't been on speaking terms since they died and nobody wants to tell me why.

My mom's eyes well up every time I mention my maternal grandma, the two of them were really close since my grandpa died when mom was 7 and was very physically abusive.
Now my mom is all alone and I can see she's taking it very hard, and I live abroad so both my parents are alone with nobody else to talk to except some friends here and there, plus the corona situation is really bad where they live and they're in their 60s so I'm scared for them a lot but can't visit until the epidemic is over.

I don't care much about getting older, even my parents never mention missing their youth much, my dad always says "I wish I were 35 again, back then I still had prospects to do new things and now I'm a tired pensioner and there's nothing for me to do", neither of them miss their 20s but their 30s. I just want them to live long and be healthy for as long as possible, I can't stand the thought of them getting sick and slowly wasting away far away from me, or dying suddenly and leaving me all alone. They're huge tinfoil retards who don't know how to take care of themselves but I love them and I'm so scared of them dying.

They're all I have in life, I come from a third world shithole, was born into a poor family with no political connections and had to move abroad to find work so I could have some savings to take care of them when they're older and so my mom can renovate her bathroom like she's been wanting to for 10 years. Just thinking about losing my parents makes me have a panic attack, I'd miss them so much I don't know what I would do. They've given me everything.

Sorry for the massive post, I just had to get this out of my system.

No. 152574

>>152541
My mom died when I was 20, all my grandparents were dead before then. I'm not even close to my dad but I dread that day because I'll truly have no family after that.

Never lost a nights sleep to worries about getting my own wrinkles or anything like that, that barely gets a moments thought from me. It's losing people that keeps me awake at night

No. 152591

>>152541
This is the only thing that I'm looking forward to as I age. They were terrible parents and I hope to live long enough to dance on their graves.



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