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Ever wondered why certain clothes don't look as good on you as on another girl with similar stats?
How to find your type:https://youtu.be/rLIuYHLzZpM
Aly Art has many videos with very good tips on how each type can dress and style themself to look their best.
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Happy to see a thread on this since I've recently gotten into this topic. Thanks anon!
I find it pretty difficult to find information/celebrity comparisons on these but here is another graphic I found. Not sure how accurate it is though.
It has less to do with categorizing beauty (iirc it's explicitly said that it's not a scale of attractiveness) and more with trying to help women how to dress or do make up for their bodies.
Personally, it has helped me a lot to dress more flattering for my body shape.
Of course most women won't fit 100% into one specific category. You can be a combination of two similar types or posses attributes from multiple different types and still benefit from the styling tips.
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I see it differently: so many young girls and women follow every single modern trend, no matter whether they like it or whether it suits them.
According to this theory you don't need to do that, instead find the things that really suit you personally.
I'm a Dramatic Classic, I will never look cute, I could never wear j-fashion. When I was younger I always thought that I need to were the same things as my friends - even though I looked awful in them.
If something really fits you, then you'll also feel more comfortable and confident.
It's not likes he's telling everybody that they have to wear certain things, rather what cuts or patterns to avoid because they're unflattering for your type.
You are totally right! Wear what you want to wear because life is too short. If this is your motto - go for it!
But this thread is for women and girls who want to understand forms and lines. People who didn't find their styles yet and are insecure about what is flattering and what is not.
>I was a so-called "fashion victim" and I bought every month new clothes in order to be ~trendy like the stacies in my school and later uni. I never stood out, I didn't feel good in my own skin. At one point I decided to clean up my wardrobe and believe it or not - I threw away clothes in the value of 2000€ which I hoarded in the last 3 years (it was mainly from H&M, Primark, Forever21). I decided to invest in high quality clothes and look for my own indivual style and so I found Kibbe. I get complimented how it fits my personality. I don't look like the typical girls around me without trying too hard if you know what I mean.
I wanted to give a tip to some of you who struggle to find out which Body type you might be.
1) Take the test anon posted in the description >>92682
It is ok if you can't decide between two types because
2) you now have to compare which celebrity looks the most like you body- and face-wise
Here is the list of all body types and some categorized celebrities:
Anjelica Huston (as per Kibbe)
Cate Blanchett *
Claire Danes *
Greta Garbo Jamie Lee Curtis *
Kate Moss (possible) *
Keira Knightley (possible) *
Louise Brooks (probably)
Michelle Dockery *
Olivia Culpo *
Tilda Swinton *
Anita Ekberg *
Barbara Carrera *
Jacqueline de Ribes
Kim Novak *
Raquel Welch *
Sofia Vergara *
Rita Hayworth (In the book as TR; verified SD on 5/23/16)
Anne Hathaway (might have had work done and might not look quite FN)*
Blythe Danner * (reassigned from SC in 2016)
Brooke Shields *
Cameron Diaz *
Charlize Theron *
Christie Brinkley *
Cindy Crawford *
Claudia Schiffer *
Ingrid Bergman (re-assigned by Kibbe 2014)
Jean Smart *
Jennifer Lawrence *
Julia Roberts *
Katie Holmes * (probably)
Liv Ullman * (Kibbe 2014)
Lucille Ball *
Lynda Carter *
Michelle Obama *
Natalie Dormer *
Nicole Kidman *
Rosalind Russell *
Princess Diana of Wales
Sarah Jessica Parker *
Note: a lot of supermodels are Flamboyant Naturals. *
Angelina Jolie * (Kibbe says she is some kind of Natural)
Chris Evert Lloyd
Liv Tyler *
Alexa Ray Joel (probably) *
Barbara Hershey *
Chloe Sevigny *
Ellen Barkin *
Goldie Hawn *
Heidi Klum *
Helen Mirren *
Jane Fonda (reassigned by Kibbe)
Joan Blondell *
Judy Holliday *
Julianne Hough *
Julie Andrews *
Kat Dennings *
Katy Perry *
Jessica Brown Findlay (Lady Sybil) (maybe) *
Pink (or FN, she might just work out so much, hard to know) *
Rene Zellweger *
Sandra Bullock * (Kibbe said she is probably a SN)
Scarlett Johansson (might have had things done, you can see her straight shape in an earlier movie.) *
Connie Sellecca *
Jackie Kennedy Onassis
Olivia Munn *
Deborah Kerr *
Donna Reed *
Emma Thompson *
Jessica Chastain (possible) *
Joan Bennett *
Laura Linney *
Marion Cotilliard *
Meredith Baxter Birney
Naomi Watts *
Olivia de Haviland
Veronica Lake *
Glora Vanderbilt *
Jennifer Love Hewitt (probably FG) *
Kelly Osbourne *
Liliane Montevecchi *
Penelope Cruz *
Zooey Deschanel *
Coco Chanel (reassigned by David 8/13/16)
Brigitte Bardot (maybe)
Eartha Kitt *
Halle Berry *
Jessica Brown Findlay (Lady Sybil - he said SN or SG) *
Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen *
Natalie Wood (reassigned from SN by Mr. Kibbe 11/8/2014)
Octavia Spencer *
Reese Witherspoon *
Winona Ryder *
David Kibbe (of course!) *
Jaclyn Smith (Kibbe says there is a possibility she may be SD upon further examination—8/13/16)
Mila Kunis *
Salma Hayek *
Susan Slavin *
Theda Bara *
Barbara Mandrell *
Christina Ricci *
Delta Burke *
Drew Barrymore *
Helena Bonham Carter *
Kate Winslet *
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Yay, I'm glad we have a thread for this!
I'm a Dramatic Classic which looks so boring to me. Any other DCs here that know how to spruce it up a bit?
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Diane Kruger is my absolute favourite DC because she styles herself classy, edgy and sexy.
I would recommend a mix out of different materials.
For example: classy cotton pants and a see-through lace blouse with a sexy/edgy bustier underneath.
Velvet, leather and lace are really interesting materials for you which can spice up any outfit.
You can also bring edgyness to your outfit through breaking some rules for example holes in your jeans as long as you stay with an overall classic vibe.
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Any soft classics here??
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Alyart's video was pretty interesting cause I've always gravitated towards gamine style but according to the test I'm a soft classic. I think my face results are all over the place as I have a lot of unbalanced features (sharp nose, round fleshy face, big downturned eyes).
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Many "fashionistas" are DC, so looking then up shouldn't be too difficult. I don't know any of the women in this list >>92698
so I simply went with ones Aly suggested:
like another anon already said, Diane Kruger is always super nicely dressed
and Camilla Belle
Your choices can vary from cute to sexyish, as long as it's not too frilly or kitschy.
Ok your main essence is E which soft/romantic with an an undercurrent of C which is balanced/classic. D adds more softness to your type.
Balanced, with a Yin influence - Soft Classic
You are not Theatrical Romatic because you have no A answers which indicates a slight yang influence. You are soft and balanced overall.
Np anon.>>92749>You are not Theatrical Romatic because you have no A answers which indicates a slight yang influence. You are soft and balanced overall.
I wanted to say that you miss the yang influence completely which is A. TR has a slight influence of A. You are balanced and soft, therefore SC. I feel like I expressed myself badly, I am sorry.
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I'm a doomed flamboyant natural lmfao, things that would look best on me is not what I like. And also, my face doesn't match the flamboyant natural description so I guess I'm just fucked
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Anon FN is like a jackpot since a lot of models ate this type too. You can wear anything that you see on runways and often in shops you find everything for FN. There are softer and harsh faces for this type, so your face is ok and should fit into this range.
May I ask you which style do you prefer?
You could be either Romantic or Soft Classic.>But to qualify for SC, your bone structure should be primarily balanced between the extremes of Yin and Yang while your body type and facial features should be more Yin-influenced.
If this is not the case, you are Romantic indeed.
For me you sound like a Soft Dramatic. Your dramatic essence comes from your height while your softness shows in your body type and face.
Normally you have 1 -3 letters from A to E. But you have 5 letters, which makes it harder. Some you can ignore but it can also be possible that you are a mixture of more than one type.
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The test said my type is Romantic but I'm pretty tall.
Does anyone know what type Shakira is? people say my body looks like hers.
How tall are you anon? Can you give me your answers?
Shakira has a fleshy/curvy body type and mainly soft facial features. But her bone structure isn't as delicate and round as a Romantic. It is more angular. She reminds me of Scarlett Johannson, so I would guess Shakira is also a Soft Natural
Ofcourse, thanks for your help anon.
I am 177cm, I don't think I have delicate bone structure either. I'm defenitely a pear though because my hips are very wide and shoulders are narrow. My bust is kind of big too but I don't seem to have a narrow waist (but it might look that way in contrast to my hips and bust)
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what would you say chloe moretz is? i look a lot like her body and face-wise.
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For me Chloe is a Soft Natural. Other sites say that she is a Flamboyant Gamine. I think she looks strange with gaminish clothes but she looks so good with a soft natural styling. I think she was a Flamboyant Gamine when she was a teenager but she transitioned to a natural type as she grew up.
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Soft Natural styling
Classic is described as moderately tall - 5'5 to 5'7. But you have to keep in mind that nowadays girls are always getting taller and taller, 5'10 is no longer as super tall and abnormal as it used to be, meaning even if that description doesn't fit 100%, you could still be that type.
I immediately knew I was DC, because everything fit perfectly, only difference is that I'm actually 5'10.
(Maybe the same thing can be said about things like breast size, since now even young teens seem to always get bustier, because of hormones in meat etc…?)
damn that makes it all more complicated. i'm a different anon and i still think i'm probably a SD but the questions that threw me off the most are vertical line and hands/feet.
for vertical line, i'm 5'11 but people are usually shocked by this and i've been told a few times that they thought i would be short. my torso is long but i look more like a scaled up medium height girl rather than a lanky model. BUT maybe this effect is because my shoulders are really narrow and my "flesh" is soft rather than long and sinewy even when i get buff. it's hard to say how tall/long your bone structure looks aside from any other factors.
and for hands and feet mine are long and narrow but also small for my height
in terms of actual size. but they're still much bigger than a petite girl's.
You could also be a Soft Natural since we don't have a picture of your body we can only guess. I can't see from the answers if your bones are angular or your face is mainly soft. The more information, the better. You can compare both types SN and SD and see for yourself which fits you better.
The reason I don't think you are a SC is because you are not completely balanced with a soft undercurrent.
Here is the description for SN:
are “Soft Yang with a Yin undercurrent”. They are also halfway between “contrast” and “blended”. Like SDs they are basically angular in bone structure, although this is softened by a fleshy body type and full facial features.
Excuse my incurable autism but i think i figured out why the test/category system as it is doesn't work for males.
because the system is for women, it assumes a default with high yin, and yang features have more "weight."
What I mean by this is, it's expected that even high yang types like D or FN will have one or two yin features, because they're women. It takes more than a couple yin features to bump from D to SD.
On the other side of the spectrum, in order to be R you need to be all yin, even having one or two yang features takes you out of the pure R category and into another category like TR. In other words, you need all yin to qualify for R, but you don't need 100% yang to qualify for D or FN. That means that if men were to take this, a huge spectrum of men would wind up as D or FN, regardless of if they're 100% yang or if they have one or two yin features.
A system for men would need to be the opposite, assume a decent amount of yang and give yin more weight, because even a very feminine man likely has a couple yang features, but in order for a man to look 100% masculine he must be all yang.
This also explains why in the gencrit thread an anon wondered why a troon looked feminine as a guy but manly as a girl. If a man has one or two apparent yin features, like big round eyes or a slender build, he looks like a feminine man because feminine features have more weight for men. But if you put that same man in a dress and try to see him as a woman, you see a "woman" with mostly masculine features and only a few feminine ones.
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I think Classics can get away with more styles than any other type because they are so balanced.
You would never look like a tranny if you would wear girly clothes. Maybe strange but that's it. And being a specific type doesn't put you in a inescapable form. You can still wear girly clothes but in a way a Dramatic Classic would. This applies to everyone btw. You can wear what you want but add softness/edgyness/classiness.
Here is Diane Kruger in girly dresses but with some edge and classiness.
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Here is Jennifer Lopez, a Theatrical Romantic, and Diane Kruger a Dramatic Classic.
The dress fits Diane perfect but it looks bad on Jennifer. You see jennifer has curves and she needs more drama in her clothes. This dress is too girly and classic and therefore she doesn't look like herself.
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And here you can see a Gamine versus a Classic Dramatic. Diane doesn't look like a tranny but somehow strange.
You have the same problem as the anon above. Is your bone structure narrow/wide/angular? Do you have a lot of muscles/ are you curvy? Are your facial features soft/balance/harsh? How tall are you?
If I would have to guess, I would say Soft Natural or Soft Dramatic.
I would love to do some requests but it's sometimes hard to find the same dress on different types. But I try my best!
Jennifer Hudson is a SD and Selma Hayek is a TR. TR is smaller, more delicate, sharper bones in the face and body and has shorter arms and legs. SD has longer arms and legs, muscular, the waist is moderate, facial bones are sharp.
This outfit is edgy. It looks better on Jennifer, because Selma needs something softer. Her whole styling is harsh with the severe high ponytail and it makes her older whereas Jennifer looks fresh and cute
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Forget the image sorry
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Other example: Anne Hathaway is SD and Selma Hayek is TR. This dress looks better on Anne because it underlines her drama (her height) but on Selma it hides her figure. Selmas drama is in her bone structure which she needs to show and not to hide.
awesome thanks so much! this makes me feel more certain that i am indeed an SD and not a TR.
kibbe typing actually makes me feel more comfortable and less insecure because as an SD i used to be frustrated because a lot of "girly" clothes looked silly and awkward on me, like i was a big woman into dddlg or something lmao, but a lot very masculine clothes made me look chubby and too covered up. now i know exactly where to choose yang things and where to put yin things and why. also my favorite go-to lbd that i bought years ago happens to be the quintessential SD dres: puffy square shoulders, draping and gathering, cinched waist but long vertical line, and lace details to soften the black. i feel clocked.
now i feel like i can do some "riskier" looks without worrying that i'm going to feel embarrassed as soon as i leave the house.
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I've never heard of any of this before! I'm intrigued.
So, I think I'm Soft Classic? My only "A" is my big nose. I feel so jealous of the gamines! I would love to dress in a more butch/dapper style but it would look so silly on my shape. My style tends to be very feminine (florals, graphic prints, waist-emphasizing), but I think those tall, lean ladies look so badass in suits and more masculine styles. OH well.
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As I see some of you are confused, I am posting this chart, I scored 40, a soft gamine, while trying to figure out my other results I'd be a TR or SC.
You can convert your scores as:
A, 0 points
B, 1 point
C, 2 points
D, 5 points
E, 4 points
you sound like a SN to me because of your soft face (Kate Winslet has a soft face), muscular build, broad shoulders and moderate waist (you said you gain easy weight in your stomach area). >>92864
This method seems okay but for >>92858
it isn't working since the diagram puts her onto the SC category and her result is too diverse and her description of her build doesn't fit SC at all. But since anon said that she has bdd I am a bit insecure.>>92848
you have a lot of contrast overall and I would say you are a Gamin although Kibbe says Gamines are smaller than you. Bridget Bardot and Audrey Hepburn are 5'7 but they look smaller, petite. The diagram puts you between G, C and SG. You are high contrast, so no C but SG and G seems alright.>>92855
If you were DC then you would have fewer D and E answers. You are too soft to be a DC overall. I would like to know your bone and body structure. The diagram puts you into FG and SN category btw but I feel like you are a bit too balanced for FG.
So, 29 points. Not sure what I am according to >>92864
I think I am closer to Soft Dramatic or FN?
I am 5'5 ft. My body type is quite skinny and athletic looking but not muscular. I tend to not gain weight. I think my limbs are on the longer side. I consider myself not "soft" looking at all but I do have average sized breast and hips and my waist is quite small. I think my shoulder are quite prominent part of my body. Overall I think I have quite balanced body?
My face is very yang I think? I have small face, medium sized eyes and full lips but sharp and big nose and chin and high cheekbones.
Hope this helps!
Ok thx these answers are more detailed!
All body types can be underweight, normal or overweight but that don't change their bone structure.
Your bones are yang with wide shoulders, long limbs, athletic build overall but not too muscular. But you still have some curves although you are skinny. You are definitely a Natural, probably a SN. Being SN doesn't mean you are disproportionate but your features are a bit more angular than a Classic. Your E and D answers come from your curves and face (full lips, small head).
So I'm Classic? Or I guess according to >>92864
I'm Classic Gamine?
Oh, sorry. I misinterpreted the graphic because I am a dumbass. Thank you!
Can SN still be pear shaped? I don't think my features are more ying tho, but maybe I am biased.
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Your answers indicate that you are a Natural leaning towards Soft. I think it is your hips which make you a soft type. The description says you can have irregular facial contours and an angular bone structure which makes you possibly believe that you don't have much yin in you.
Your bone structure never changes due weight. But I get that it is hard to find out if you gained weight. Your shoulders are a good indicator for your structure since you never put on weight there. Some women have wide, broad, angular, round or sharp shoulders. Then look at your limbs which don't change their length after gaining or losing weight.
Also the size of your feet and hand don't change too much and your height stays the same.
Some women can lose a lot of weight but they still have muscles or curves. If they gain weight, they get really lush but with a defined waist line. This is the case for soft types usually. There are also women who gain a lot of weight but they remain straight in figure and gain weight in the waist area. If they lose weight, they look figure-wise like the typical model. This is the case for dryer/dramatic types.
Main essence is Yin, so you are overall a soft type. You have some balanced elements in you and a Yang undercurrent. How tall are you? What is your bone structure? Does your face have soft features? Are you muscular/fleshy? Slim waistline?
I don't trust the diagram which puts you into the TR category. SG is also possible and for SC you are too unbalanced
My face/cheeks are round, small nose, fullish lips. Definitely fleshier arms and stomach regardless of weight, no hips, straight up and down waist line but broader shoulders, limbs on the shorter side.
those answers match soft gamine, but if that seems really incorrect, check out the descriptions for TR and SN.
i find that in order to hone in on your type you have to do the test, AND, read yin/yang descriptions, AND a few videos comparing different types against each other. since we have slightly different perceptions of what is big/small/sharp/long etc, it can be confusing to use the test alone.
also, when you say face and body, there's a few more subcategories to consider
facial bone structure
body bone structure
body "flesh" and curves
for example, i'm soft dramatic, my facial bone structure is mostly A, body bone structure A, facial features (eyes lips) D, and body flesh D.
if you can differentiate which is which i can give you a better guess
I think she is a TR because she is very soft (lots of E and D answers) and she lacks some Yang (answer A) to be a SG but she has several B answers which are soft Yang. She is a little bit too dry for R type and too soft for SG type. Definitely leaning towards TR type. But since your results aren't conclusive you can experiment with the three types R, TR and SG and see which fits you best.
I looked this up:>If your answers are dominant column E and/or column D, with several answers in column A as a secondary force: >Soft Yin with a slight Yang undercurrent - Theatrical Romantic
Note: To qualify for this theme, your body type (flesh) and your facial features should be Yin-dominant while your bone structure should be slightly Yang-influenced.
>If your answers have nearly an equal mixture of opposite extremes from columns A and E, yet you also have several extra answers in column D:
Combination of opposites, extra Yin - Soft Gamine >Note: To qualify for this theme, your bone structure should be Yang- dominate while your body type (flesh) should be Yin-dominant. Your facial features should be extremely Yin-dominant.
I'm confused about what I could be, since although soft classic seems to match my results I don't really identify with it (or any of these types, thanks to body image issues).
I'm a 5'8 with what I would probably call a broad build - hips and shoulders are larger than average and equally wide, ribcage is broader than average (yay eternally wide-set boobs), and there's a 10" difference between my waist and hips. Weight gain goes to hips, boobs, and waist, but not arms or legs, and even at very low weights I'm still broader than average and similarly proportioned. My hands and feet are kinda long.
I have a diamond face, largish deep-set eyes, and I'm often mistaken for being a teenager despite being 26. My lips are average, my cheeks are kinda chubby, and my nose is slightly aquiline.
I've felt burly and unfeminine my entire life so I'm hoping this will help me feel less like an impostor whenever I try to wear anything that isn't jeans and a tee.
Sorry if I typed too much!
I suspect SN although your answers are dominant C. Your description fits perfectly with the SN type because you are rather broad but soft and a soft face.>SN is moderately Yang-dominant while your body type and facial features are be Yin-influenced.
I thought about SC but you are too broad.
The diagram says SG which is BS since you need a high contrast and mostly A,D and E answers.
This topic seemed interesting because I've always struggled with feeling that something was always "off" with the outfits I wore. Its quite frustrating and I really hoped that this test would help to shed some light, but I'm still very much confused lol. I guess it is worth mentioning that my view of my face and body can be quite distorted and at times inconsistent. Even with the visual aids, I found it a bit challenging to pick out traits that were similar to my own. I was wondering if any anons could provide me with some insight as to where I might stand. I just want to wear nice clothes without looking so "wrong".
By Raw Totals (from the test linked in OP):>A:6 >B:2 >C:4 >D:2 >E:2
>Dominant A's - "Dramatic"
By Kibbe Score (using the reference kindly provided by >>92864
):>A:6 = 0>B:2 = 2>C:4 = 8>D:2 = 10>E:2 = 8
>28 pts - Right in the middle between "Flamboyant Gamine" and "Soft Natural"
>Height: 174 cm/5'8"-5'9"ish~>Dress Size Range: US 2~4 or UK 6~8>"Classic" Body Type: Banana >"Classic" Face Shape: Diamond???
My figure is usually described as being boyish (straight up and down, slightly toned, building muscle seems to require a little less effort??). I am slightly taller than average (if we take the North American average of 5'4" as a reference point) with a bone frame that leans toward the smaller end, but I'm not at all lanky. For the body portion of the test, there was an equal distribution between A and C responses. In short, I'm horizontally "boyish" (narrow and even "banana" proportions) but quite proportional when you look at the "vertical" ratios (ex: leg:torso).
My face is…weird? My results for that section (#10-15; #16 was for hair texture) came back as: 2 A's, 2 D's and 2 E's (so there is some blending???). I feel like my face shape reads as more androgynous (high and prominent zygomatic bone, slightly longer than wide face, slightly larger chin, thin lips) but a number of my features (large and roundish eyes, small mouth, rounded nose, tapered jaw) sort of "softens" things up and makes it more boyish rather than the all out "you could fucking cut diamonds with those cheekbones and that jawline" look that some may associate with androgyny.
If it helps, for anyone here who does cosplay, I tend to suit young male characters best. Generally speaking, I am too masculine for cute young female characters, not sexy enough (lack the proportions and features) for more mature and sexy female characters, and not "sharp" nor masculine enough for older male characters. I don't know if this point helps very much at all tbh.
I had to repost this to make corrections to the English and I apologize for such a long winded post.
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Probably a SC because you are balanced with Yin influence. You lack a high contrast to be a SG. Your clothing choice should be soft, girly but still classy. Of course some styles that fit SG perfect is also suitable for you as a SC as long as it's not too girly. Classics are very versatile, be happy :)
You have a lot of C responses (which implies a more solid balance between "Yin" and "Yang") and many D's and E's (considered to be "Yin" qualities). If we were to go straight by these numbers, I would agree with >>92996
and say you are "Soft Classic" (balanced with a notable "Yin" influence). Classics seem to be like the "Oval Face" shape of Kibbe's categories, in that because they are so balanced, they are more versatile than those whose type lean' toward either extreme. If you your answers had presented more contrast between "Yin" and "Yang" - for example, if you have a super "Yin" face, body composition, and weight distribution (a lot of D's and E's) to contrast against a more "Yang" bone structure - you may have potentially fallen under "Soft Gamine" but it is impossible to say.
Ok you figured out a lot by yourself already which is good.
The diagram puts you in between FG and SN. You are not FG because you don't have much contrast between Yin and Yang. Your dominant main essence is Yang (A), you're still balanced with a yin undercurrent. This description fits for SN, and SD. I feel like you could have too much drama to be a SN. I can't decide between these two. Maybe an anon can help?
Same anon as >>93000
Only by her description without looking at her answers I would say FN to be honest. Many models fit your description (boyish figure with soft face) and they are usually FN.
What the fuck is that part of the video about shoulders? She's literally showing how shoulders look in different poses and saying those in such and such pose are "type x" and those in a different pose are "type y"
What the fuck am I watching
Sorry for doubleposting but she also shows Marilyn Monroe in two different categories for hips. The same woman. In two different categories because the photo looks slightly different
Don't get me wrong, I think it's good to try to find what flatters you but I don't think this particular method has any merit
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I'm not sure what I am…
a:2 b:4 c:4 d:0 e:6
It's apparently soft natural, but I look more gamine examples. Help?
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I would also say SN. But you are definitely no Gamine of any sort because you have no extremes of yin and yang.
Remember that Gamines are not always small and petite. Bridget Batdot is 5'7 and curvy but she has a sharp bone structure. Romantics are also small and delicate but they are overall rounded. TR and SG are very near by and get often confused. SN can also be smallish like Emma Stone. At the first sight you could get her confused with a Gamine because she is cute, girly and rather small in size. But if you look closer you see that she has wider shoulders, her body is more yang but still soft at the same time. If you would put her in Gamine clothing and styling, she would look separate from herself. Emma looks best with natural soft hair, makeup and styling like a typical SN.
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And here is Emma with a Gamine Styling. Hair is too cutesy forced, same with clothes.
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Again with Gamine styling which don't suit her although Emma is smallish, girly and cute. She is a SN after all
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here's what i came up with!
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According to this I am SN (exact 31 score), for some reason I relate more to FN though. I don't feel like I have that much Yin in me, the only Yin answers I gave were pretty irrelevant like my tiny hands and feet or rounded eyes. I'm not that soft and fleshy and it seems like most SN's are pretty busty, while I'm not, I just have a dramatically large ribcage and a laughably short waist. My body is pretty close to Farrah who was typed as a Flamboyant Natural, plus for some retarded reason people have compared me to Taylor Swift before, so I definitely have some yang and drama in me. Most of my answers were either C or B. I'm so confused!
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If you already found a style you love and which fit your personality, I see no reason to change it. Kibbe is for people who are looking for a style, who ate indecisive and confused with fashion in general.>>93186
I really like your style, it has a goth/rock chick vibe to it! If you want to experiment with SC and really want to incorporate it to your style, I would look for softer materials like velvet to combine with your leather jacket. Also softer, more girly cuts for your shirts and dresses in general. Try to incorporate different colours which go well with black and would soften your look like jewel colours. No hard contrasts! I would leave your hair it is since it looks like a signature style and it looks somehow soft yet edgy.
HALP ME ANONS, what is my kibbe type? I am a bit confused.
Vertical line B
Hands feet D
Arms legs A
Shape of body C
Arms thighs B
Flesh on cheekbones B
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Anon the time has come! Ethereal and ingenue fairy doll princesses humblebraggers have arrived kek>>93248
This is Kibbe theory and there is no ethereal or ingenue bs and will never be. It's for snowflakes and cows who feel so special and above everyone else. You can't take the test without paying money nor read a coherent text. For all the people who want to know what I am talking about:https://www.truth-is-beauty.com/9792-9792-ethereal-ingenue----the-fairy.html
You can have a special pretty face and be still a Dramatic, Classic or Natural or whatever. No category is more attractive than others, it is not about beauty! It's about lines and forms. Every type can be styled to look like they are out of this world. Models are nearly all FN or D and they are practically made to make dramatic over the top looks to look good. They are still people and without the proper styling they look just plain like other people.
Lily Cole is FN and no Ethereal Ingenue bs. She looks hideous with clothes this website recommends for this ~ethereal fairy queen type kek but she looks great with FN styling. Also professional pictures and real life are two different things because you can manipulate colours, forms, practical anything in pics
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Lily with uwuu ethereal fairy styling. She looks like a huge baby
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She needs drama, contrast and no pastel fairy bs.
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Last picture. Here is Lily in a casual dramatic outfit.
But why did you ask if you were ethereal? Ethereals are apparently from out of this world. Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder and as I said before:there are pretty and not so pretty examples in every category. SNs are a irregular type, which means that weight is not evenly distributed. They can be underweight, normal and overweight. You probably don't weight much and therefore you might feel you have less curves than other SNs. And sexiness is a feeling and not exclusive to a type. Every type can be sexy when styled right.
I have a tip: ask a friend or your family to take the test for you. You stand there, say nothing to them. Other people are far more objective!
No… sadly I don't weigh very little and I still don't have the curves of a SN. Like I said >>93221
my shape is fairly balanced with a small bust and more yang arms and legs. I feel more like a FN in that regard but I'm not tall enough, the only softness I have is in my face, not really my body (small hands and feet aren't exactly gamechanging yin. I asked about Ethereals because my face isn't sexy or natural, it looks 'dreamy and autistic' according to other people, not like a normal human. In SN clothes I look even more autistic because it's so lazy, it makes me look like a small sick child or something.
I don't know anyone who would want to take the test for me sadly, but thank you for suggesting.
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>subscribed to aly for years
>tried watching this video so many times
>nothing makes sense at all
>too retarded to take the test and I dress like shit
No. Natural are broader in bone structure and have broader shoulders plus muscles. Dramatics are slim in bone structure but they have broad shoulders and gain no muscles because they are are often ectomorph. For example Romantics are often endomorph and they gain fat plus muscles but muscle gain don't make them broader but more defined.
Fat and muscles never change your bone structure!
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did that happen for you? because it's not true in my experience. i used to bodybuild and even at my most buff it was still obvious i had very narrow shoulders, at a skeletal level, even though i had delts. even the muscle texture looked different from yang muscle type. it was never long and sinewy and dry, looked more like a buff version of the "soft flesh" aly art talks about. so i still would've gotten the same type.
here's an example, the two women in the middle have a similar amount of muscle, but the one on the left clearly has wider shoulders. differences in body length, hand size, shape of hips, facial composition etc are also going to be unaffected.
the only way it could effect your type is if you get so super shredded that curves you normally have disappear, so then you would just think of how you look at a more typical bodyfat.
i tried plugging in a few men and it doesn't work. they all end up D or FN, even the "feminine" ones. I explained why here >>92814
the test would have to be inverted and remade for it to work for men.
instead of high estrogen yin on the left and neutral yang on the right, it would have to be high testosterone yang features on the left and more neutral features for yin. Does that make sense?
Yin and yang translate completely differently for the sexes because of hormones among other things. Yin features for men does not mean big boobs and an hourglass figure and yang for women does not mean a tree trunk neck and a caveman brow. There's some overlap of course but the test would need to be designed with men and testosterone features in mind, just like kibbe is based around women and estrogen heavy features.
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Yeah I don't know who put those outfits together on pinterest…it's really dated and ugly.
Look at this list >>92698
and pick a celeb you like in your category. My favorite celeb who represents SN is Chloe Sevigny. She is so stylish and never boring!
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Since it's hard for some people to figure out which type they are and the Kibbe score diagram >>92864
is sometimes off, I decided to google some other methods to determine your body type more precisely.
You look at your results and devide them into Yin, Yang and balanced.
A and B are Yang
C is balanced
D and E are Yin
We take >>93839
as an example:
A = 3
B = 2
C = 4
D = 6
E = 1
Now we arrange them from the highest to the lowest points:
This means Yin, which has the highest number (7 points), is the dominant influence. Yang is in the second place (5 points), followed by Balance (4 points)
So because Yin is her main influence, we can clearly say she is somewhere on the right side of this diagram.
Now we look at Yang. Between Yin (7 points) and Yang (5 points) is only a difference of 2 points, which puts her slightly next to the center. If the points were equally large for example, then she would be exactly on the center of this diagram.
Now we look at her Balance (4 points) which determines her energy. She has a moderate to high energy which puts her between G and TR. Since we found out that her main essence is Yin, we can be sure she is a TR.
this is really helpful anon. i'm even more positive im an SD now.
Just finished the test!
My answers were b, e, b, c, e, e, e, e, e, b, e, b, b, d, b, a. I think that means I'm a soft natural.
I've always leaned towards styles that would fit someone dramatic or gamine, so I guess that's why I always look like shit in the types of clothes I try on.
This was really fun, and super helpful!
Yeah I guess it's to be considered for special events or interviews you're right.
But as for what is flattering for your body type, well that shouldn't be difficult to figure out with something less complex.
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What am i?
I cant tell if im TR or SG or maybe even something completely different.
I got these answers from the quiz
Bt) ecto/meso (a) (b,c)
What's white centric about Kibbe? It's about women of all skin colours, heights and forms. But I have to agree that it's harder for women of colour to compare to the all white women face chart >>92682
You are welcome to contribute a face chart for women of colour here! We can help you if you have any questions anon!
I think it is good that you pointed that out, so we can work on making Kibbe's system better.
I have some examples for you already: Halle Berry is TR, although some other sites say she is SG. She doesn't fit SG at all in my opinion because in comparisons to other SGs she is a lot more womanly. Does it make sense? Jennifer Hudson is a SD, Ciara is a FN and Lupita Nyongo is a FG.
I can't figure out what this means, and Aly didn't mention anything like me in her video.
I'm tallish (173cm but usually mistaken for shorter) with broad shoulders, wide hips (~0.72 WHR regardless of weight), long legs, long hands (19.5cm), big feet (US 11), a small but soft waist, average boobs (usually a D cup regardless of weight), and a rounded diamond face with a round nose, slightly full lips, soft cheeks, and roundish almond eyes. I gain weight pretty evenly, I always look slightly soft no matter how much weight I lose, and when I eat healthily my BMI sits around 22.5 (it's currently down to 19 due to an illness, and I look super weird). My hair is soft and slightly wavy (2a), and although the strands themselves are fine, I have a lot of them, so it looks fairly thick.
I'm not soft enough to be a romantic, but I'm too soft to be any of the others. Maybe I'll try again when I've gained my weight back - I really need a new wardrobe.
I’m 5’4, body kind of like Britney Spears but longer limbs, and a face like Emma Roberts and Jessica Chastain. I found the test kind of hard bc I have really thin arms but fleshy thighs so putting the thighs and arms in one question led me to pick D.
I also took this test below and got a 67 but there’s no category for anything in the 60s strangely enoughhttps://13perfectshapes.wordpress.com/13ps-kibbe-quiz-female-version/
Can anyone help? I’m certain that I’m not a natural because I can’t pull off any of the natural looks and actually require some styling to look good.
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I am 100% classic (unfortunately, cute styles don't suit me at all) face-wise, but my body definitely isn't classic at all? I have large breast, small waist, normal-sized hips, I'm tallish (5'8.5, so two inches above average in my country) and I have long limbs. What body type is it? How should I even dress? Please help kind anons.
You just verbalized what I never could about why this whole thing makes no sense to me. I want to understand but something just doesn't add up here and this is totally it.
Is there some way to interpret "soft and flowy" into your personal style without compromising your personality? How can soft classic traits be represented, other than the typical image? Kind of rhetorically spitballing ideas here
Now when I'm putting together clothes and shopping I will keep some of the advice in mind, and combine it with "edgier" pieces. It's gonna be fun to see if the outfits will improve or not.
Kibbe is something to experiment with but not take religiously because then everyone will just end up looking like some old 1980s lady.
Not sure how to interpret this. I have a square face, but big eyes, prominent aquiline round nose, and small round lips. I have square shoulders, broader than my hips, but I'm still built like a pear (while simultaneously having little to no waist because I have a short torso). I have a weird body type. My arms are long and thin, my finger tips reach past my thighs. Thighs are wide, and calves are muscular. People tell me I look simultaneously petite and really tall (5'7) at the same time in my pictures, that I could go either way, but I'm neither. I'm 5'3, which is average. This test was hard to answer.
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Anyone knows what body type Miley Cyrus has?
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Some people think she's a Flamboyant Gamine. But I completely disagree because she looks very bad with gamine short hair and styling. She fits more into the category Soft Natural. She looks the best when her hair is natural and kinda undone but at the same time a little bit softness.
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Here's Miley with a gamine hair cut. It's not ugly but it looks unnatural and separate from her.
Can anyone help me out please? These were my results:
BONE: e, d, d, c
BODY: c, c, b, b, d
FACE: e, c, c, a, d, d, d
So from the video I would say soft classic? But that doesn't really seem like me. I'm short at 5'3 and have soft facial features. Nothing really that strikes "fierce" or "yang". I think my body is in the middle of ying/yang with slightly more yang. I'm not curvy but not to the point of looking "boyish" though my limbs tend to be on the fleshy side (especially arms and calves).
I've read/watched so much stuff on Kibbe typing and I still don't know what I am because I have such a warped sense of self, eugh.>>117495
I don't think inverted triangles are inherently naturals. Broad shoulders and narrow hips are both yang, so they could also be the yang element needed for dramatic classic/flamboyant gamine.>>117599
Check out Aly Art and Merriam Style's videos for ideas. I've attached a video explaining coats for each body type to help get you started.>>117623
It's equally useful for anyone. Merriam Style has videos on Kibbe typing for plus-size women if you're interested in learning more.>>117650
Merriam Style has some videos using regular people as examples instead of celebrities.>>117734
You could be a soft natural, or some kind of gamine.>>117817
You sound like you could be a flamboyant natural, but if you aren't sure then you could try some different types of outfit and see what you think suits you the most.>>117845
You could also be theatrical romantic, or soft gamine.>>117868
Lots of D answers implies theatrical romantic. One or two A/B answers in a sea of D/E can probably be ignored, since there aren't really any people who fit each type perfectly.
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How important is your height in kibbe? According to this chart my height would automatically eliminate all but three types but two of them are definitely not it. And I'm not convinced of the remaining one either.
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I have the same problem, I've done at least a dozen of those tests and always get dramatic classic, I even look rather similar in face and body to diane kruger who's always used as the prime example, but I'm 178cm and it usually says DC is below 170cm…? What else could I be? >>117876
Seconding this. I'm only a uni student, there's no way I would want or could afford to dress like some top ceo lol
Thank you for your input anon. I guess I’m theatrical romantic but I’ve read somewhere they’re supposed to be really short. I’m kinda tall (170 cm). They’re also supposed to have a very feminine face https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/seasonalcolor/kibbe-s-theatrical-romantic-t1988.html
I agree my body looks theatrical romantic (small boned, tapered, feminine, small waist, fleshy) but my face looks like a lot like Audrey Hepburn. I think she’s flamboyant gamine.
Do face and body have to correlate?
I’ve started limiting my color scheme in my overall wardrobe so I can swing more monochromatic outfits. If I want to bring in interesting color or something I’ll do that primarily with accessories and shoes. I also follow the geometric pattern only rule.
The right t-shirt + jeans has become my go-to though honestly. It might be sort of boring but it looks good.
Hi anon I'm Asian too and was wondering the same thing! I found this blog post which has a small list of Asian celebrities. http://expressingyourtruth.blogspot.com/2014/11/asian-celebrity-northrup-essences.html?m=1
I personally also tested as soft classic but unfortunately there arent many there listed.. and even among those there arent many pictures of them in "realistic modern fashion" I could find. Eg Maggie Chung was popular in the 90s and 00s.. so I can only find her in very old fashioned or over the top clothing. Sometimes I think I might just be a soft gamine or smth just bc I cant relate to any soft classics lol
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what kibbe type is Lily Rose Depp? she has a similar body to mine – skinny top half and bottom heavy lower half, particularly the very thick legs.
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>>119066>compared to old hollywood stars
Sounds like theatrical romantic or classic to me
Kibbe seems a bit faulty but I took this quiz: https://13perfectshapes.wordpress.com/13ps-kibbe-quiz-female-version/
and got Theatrical Romantic. Then I saw this https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/seasonalcolor/kibbe-s-theatrical-romantic-t1988.html
and I think it describes me very well, even down to the "bedroom eyes." Yeah I know this is a blogpost…just wanted to share.
i took the test a couple times, and yeah it's always classic. i even looked at some old family photos because i often get told i look like my grandmother and my mother a lot, and although my mother is more natural than my grandmother, is still a good blend. >>119101
I took the quiz and it kind of makes sense, but I don't think I've "got it" all the way. I'm pretty sure it guessed correctly though.
I got soft gamine, and I kind of fit the bill facially and height wise, but I have a body shape that's kinda tricky to dress. My bmi is 19 and I look okay just in my underwear, but in heels I look chunky, boyish and wide on top with really tiny feet and in a lot of clothing cinched at the waist I end up looking kinda tubby, skinny jeans make me look like a tired mom who's given up. My body shape is more or less banana with b cups and straight hips but my widest part is my thighs which makes wearing flats look weird.
Any ideas on how to dress? When I wear things that aren't teenager clothes or loose and casual, and when I want to look grown up, I always look like a tubby auntie instead.
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If edgy styles suit you more than girly styles, then you might be a Flamboyant Gamine. Of course you can always spice up and make individual changes on your clothes. Kibbe just gives suggestions which you can follow but you don't need to.
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I got Soft Gamine, then Gamine once and a bunch of times the answers didn't result in anything (there was no category for my score).
My body shape is a rectangle with a tiny bit of waist definition, I'm 163cm tall. Like the lady on the far right in pic related, but with slightly thicker thighs than hers (my widest point) and sort of more "compact" since I'm guessing I'm shorter. I'm a size XS for tops and S for trousers, and most tops seem to be a bit long on me or would look better if cut slightly shorter.
I really don't know what to make of this.
Can your post your answers please (A B C D E)? Because the picture you posted shows a woman on the right who is a Natural. You could be a Gamine though. These Kibbe sites use a mathematical formulas which can be hit or miss. I use this image >>93847
to narrow down possible types.
Sure anon, and thanks. I would've posted before but I didn't want to ask for too much.
It's also possible that I'm accidentally fibbing the answers because I can't tell what some choices are supposed to mean/look like.
Kek that comes up if I google edgy cute outfits. I don't find the clothes terrible but on the right girl they look fabulous I think>>119613
Here we have it. C stands for balance which makes up the most of your answers. Gamines have no or very few C answers since their type consists of opposites like a lot of A and D/E answers. In your case: C, then E, A, B/D. Overall you have a little more yin than yang in you which means that your type is approximately in the middle of this scale >>93847
leaning more towards yin. I think you are a Theatrical Romantic which makes a lot of sense since Soft Gamines have a lot of in common with TR.
If someone has another idea, I'm glad to hear it.
No problem anon! >>119587
Are you sure that you're a Gamine? I mean it's more prevalent how you appear (proportions) and people are getting taller with each generation, so Gamines can be over 5'5 but your description doesn't fit Gamines. Short hair should look cute and sophisticated on you and not manly. Can you give me your answers please?
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FN doesn't have to be boho at all! Look at attached: long, one color block, unconstructed pieces, no waist emphasize, textures, chunky jewelry (earrings). The only FN 'requirement' it doesn't meet is the open neckline but the rest makes up for it imo.
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Attached: Long vertical line, unconstructed garment, open neckline, chunky jewelry, unconstructed bag with blunt edges
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Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is a Flamboyant Natural and she has a great street style! Very cool and chic at the same time
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Hello, fellow dramatic classic! I just watched Aly Art's video on hairstyles for different body types, and this is what she says:
>Sculpted, sleek, blunt or slightly layered, moderate length. Asymmetry is good.>Avoid ornate or lavish hair, wild hair, boyish hair, overly layered styles, and very symmetrical styles.
Pic is the style I'm currently considering, which was actually taken from that video.
This was really hard to do because I'm not really good at analyzing myself, but I really want to try dressing for my body type… My answers threw me off a little, though, because of the even B and E count. I think my score means I'm soft natural? Would love a second opinion!
bone: C, D, B, A
body: E, E, E, E, B
face: B, B, B, C, E, C, C, B
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The large, even B and E amount does mean you're most likely a soft natural!
find a happy medium. unlike what >>119761
says, there's much more joy in finding something that makes you look and feel amazing, rather than just one or the other.
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I'd appreciate some help, since I need to buy a new wardrobe and don't know where to start!
I assumed I was a dramatic classic, but after taking the test I'm not so sure. I got:
I'm wondering if I messed up by thinking about different features in too isolated of a way, instead of comparing them to each other, but I really struggle to think about my body in an objective way.
I'm 5'8" but I look a little bit shorter, and although I have broad shoulders and ribs I also have wide hips, so I guess it could balance out? I'm a bit pear shaped (my top half is a dress size smaller than my bottom half) but I look pretty balanced overall. I have wide, fleshy cheekbones (think Kirsten Dunst but with a narrower jaw), average lips, an average nose, and slightly upturned, roundish eyes. Something about the way I look makes me look like a teenager despite being in my late twenties, but I think it's just how rounded my face is. The A score was for my hands and feet so I don't know how relevant it is in the grand scheme of things.
Am I overthinking things because I hate my body? Maybe. Am I going to overthink my overthinking? Also maybe…
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I always wondered why Aly Art considers herself a Soft Gamine. Maybe I'm blind but I think a natural styling with tousled long hair and a shirt plus jeans fit her very well and make her look more youthful whereas gamine styling looks off and makes her look older.
I agree, it makes her look older.
I'm pretty sure Aly Art isn't by far as knowledgeable in Kibbe as she makes it seems. A lot of what she says in her video's can be traced back word for word to a website/forum thread on Kibbe. I came across it a while ago while doing more research on Kibbe.
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Oh I think you mean tapatalk, right? I noticed that too. Sometimes it's hard to look in the mirror and decide which type you are without any help. Aly has a cute face but Gamine hair brings out her harsh features which weren't apparent when she had long tousled hair. Unfortunately a lot of women with cute faces get their hair cut short because hair stylists think that they all will look like Mia Farrow or Audrey Tautou who are Gamines in fact. Then they end up looking like Scarlett Johansson.
This is fun and all but it's pretty hard to get into.
I think I'm a soft dramatic with
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I agree you're Soft Dramatic.>>120073>>120063
Kibbe is from the 80s so the outfits in the book are truely outdated. The outfit ideas you find on Pinterest are by random people with different tastes which you probably find ugly/conservative/whatever.
So I suggest that you start your own Pinterest collection. Look for celebrities who are the same type as you. Here's the list >>92698
Look for their street style and pin each pic you like. My favorite Soft Classic are Alycia Vikander and Jessica Alba. They have great street styles.
This a small channel that focuses on the "18 ethereals" - personal styles created by a Polish stylist that in part are made to consider and compliment the Kibbe typology.
Here is the blog of the stylist herself. She has articles on Kibbe alone as well.http://getthelook.pl/ethereal-typology-by-olga-brylinska/
" Since writing the book, Kibbe has changed his views many times and now completely strays from being true to his book and refuses to pay attention to the body (including height) first and foremost. "
Kek. Don't get me wrong, criticism is always good. But the author has no leg to stand on with her new invented TyPeS.
She ONLY takes very good looking women as examples who must be Ingenue or Ethereal in her opinion when in reality she's just distracted by their beauty. If those beautiful women get older (or styled ugly), it's apparent that they are not Ingenue or Ethereal but any other generic type and they are just styled properly and are very pretty. Good looking people tend to look better than others, so here's that. Plus she only shows them in gowns on the red carpet. Sure they look fabulous and elven-like but so do Romantics, Gamines, Naturals, Classics and Dramatics when styled properly. She never shows street style examples because literally everyone would look ridiculous and try hard with uwu-Ethereal-Ingenue clothes which are actually intended to wear at a special occasions. That's a special snow flake syndrome right here.
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Here's a prime example. On the left it looks good because it is a special occasion (photoshoot), good light and photoshop. On the right you see how it actually looks like in reality on a generic occasion. People will look at you and not because you are a EthEreaL Goddess but an embarrassing try hard.
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Did you read the thread at all? Choose some Theatrical Romantics here >>92698
and then look up their street style and pin everything you like on them on Pinterest. If you want to wear jeans/trousers, they need to be high waisted. Your whole outfit should be more on the romantic side but with a little bit edgyness either achieved through a specific clothing piece or accessories or hair. You'll see what I mean.
>>120288>On the left it looks good
Not really tbh
Also here's the thing about the right and left comparison, we don't see a bottom part of the left side, and her hair is styled differently in both comparisons. I feel like she might actually have looked decent in public if you saw her in the left outfit, given her skirt probably wasn't as short and her hair had some volume to it.
I don't think that's the way to go about that? Just because xyz celeb is xyz type doesn't mean they dress after it.
Imo stop looking at ugly old fashioned examples so much and just look at a garment and go down a mental checklist of your types "requirements". Surely it isn't that hard to tell if a garment is "intricate" or not, "loose fitting" or not, "symmetrical" or not, etc.
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What type would y'all say Brie Larson is? Asking because she's the celebrity I look most similar to.
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So I took a quiz to figure out my type and I got classic. However I definitely feel like my features depart from that greatly and that I might be either a gamine (or one of the subtypes) or a soft natural–wich are on two different ends.
I've been told that I look similar to Audrey Tatou when it comes to facial features (and commonly classified as a flamboyant gamine). Have all of the exaggerated facial features that fall into the celebrity examples I have seen. Still I feel like I lack the boyish/stick frame that most gamines would fall into, and have more broad shoulders and bigger and and feet like a natural type might. However my face doesn't really look similar to most natural types (except maybe Selena Gomez). Honestly think I'm doing something wrong here.
Alright. My vertical line is more yin (like my head size makes up 1/6 of my body) but I'm 5'5"/165 cm. Anyway I took an online quiz originally but took a handwritten one just now. The results:
>A: 0>B: 4>C: 5>D: 2>E: 4https://cozyrebekah.com/2019/04/12/kibbe-body-type-test/
My results still put me in the realm of classic.
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Does anyone here know Merriam Style? She's just like Aly Art teaching Kibbe body types. She has some good videos but she's really really bad at typing people. She typed herself a Soft Gamine but looks horrible in Gamine clothing and hairstyles. I think she has a lot more yang than yin. She reminds me of Rooney Mara who is a pure dramatic.
The kibbe thing is really targeted at older or otherwise trad women who don't know anything about fashion. The subs are like that bc those are
the people making those pinterest boards and shit people follow.
I heard some people use Soft Romantic and I have been using this system for 2 years now. Strange.
Well, I am just a Romantic then.
David Kibbe is active on facebook and has said that a lot of his book is out of date now. A lot of the advice in this thread is not at all what he would give, especially in relation to the quiz. If anyone's interested I can post some recent things from him.>>121117
Just read the descriptions for all the types and see what resonates anon. >>121230
You probably have very delicate features, so you can pull off soft, small scale details. If you have curves, show those off in a classy way as well.
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Some current fashions, ladies! Feast your eyes!
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I'm poking fun but tbh some of these are really nice looks. Here's some pics of him and his wife from fb.
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How cute, his muse is his wife. He has a whole page dedicated to her; http://davidkibbe.co/muse/
Edit- is this creepy or no? Spoilered for off-topic pic
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Graphic Design Is His Passion
Seriously though, does he have any new modern advice? I'd love to read it.
I gotta admit Black Kibbe Types function completely differently
Also, why does the Strictly Kibbe FB group says this group is for nonmen only? What does that mean? Why not women?
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Ah damn. They ruin everything. >>121360
Romantic type is basically the opposite of a man, so yes, it’s impossble.
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Had to post this because sometimes a few anons ask the purpose of Kibbe. Even if you are the curviest /sexiest woman on earth (not saying Kim is the sexiest but this is how media portraits her), you can look broad and manly in the wrong lines (except you wanted to achieve this on purpose for whatever reason). The Kibbe system isn't perfect but it's damn right about types and lines. You can wear what you want but it's up to you whether you want to stand out positive or negative.
I think it's quite funny that Ellysas, Ally and Merriam typed themselves as Soft Gamines but no-one really fits the type. They act like experts but can't get their own type right.
Ally could be a Gamine but she looks like an old Lady with Gamine clothes. She looks fabulous in a shirt, jeans and a natural styling. Merriam is delusional because she can't get Kibbe facts straight and takes money from people to type them. She has a typical natural face which is nowhere near Gamine. Even if her body was Gamine, she would be probably a Flamboyant Gamine. She is nowhere near soft. And Elyssas is delusional about her type too. She's so cute and petite kek. She lacks sharpness in her skeleton plus she looks bad in Gamine clothes/styling. She looks like a grown woman who wants to be a teenager again. They all look horrible and I wouldn't take any fashion advice from them, although they have good and informative videos from time to time.
Agree, Merriam looks so pretty with long hair and more natural type styling. Soft gamine looks odd on her. She looks more like a dramatic classic to me.
The kibbe system itself makes a lot of sense, problem is that the test isn’t specific or clear enough. A lot of people have very different views on what broad shoulders or a sharp vs blunt nose looks like. If there was a universal version with verified image examples there wouldn’t be as many misconceptions.
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That's because everybody (including farmers) wants to be an uwu cute gamine.
I'm a dramatic classic and my kibbe choices are basically blouses and trenchcoats in the white, grey or black - and of course nobody wants that shit, so they lie to themselves.
>Ally looks like an old lady with gamine clothes
Just a couple years back she looked really pretty in a cool way (pic), now she looks boring and tryhard. In her videos it's not that bad, but if you check her instagram and see full body pics…
Gamine is a just a mixture of opposites. Yin (feminine D and E) and yang (masculine A and B) characteristics. It really has nothing to do with looking young or feminine. No body type is cuter or prettier than any other, they’re just a collection of lines for you to work with.
Aly Art often says that gamines look like “teenage girls” or “little girls”. Disagree. You can be any type and look youthful (Miranda Kerr is flamboyant natural and she looks very young imo).
Aly is kinda full of shit half the time tbh.
However the "vibe" of a gamine is defined as animated and boyish, so it's definitely a youthful type. Not cuter or prettier than other types as you said, but the proportions (large head compared to body, making you look petite regardless of height) make the silhouette read young. Miranda Kerr has a very youthful face but if you saw her body with the face blurred you wouldn't have any doubts that she's a grown woman. A gamine can often be mistaken for a much younger person due to the proportions. Unless your face and body are extremely different types, I'd probably just dress for my body type rather than muddy the waters with my face.
I do agree the opposites thing is the most important part of the type, though.
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I have a dress that always attracts compliments. People always remark I look good every time they see me in it even if I've worn it before. It's never happened with other clothes. Could someone more knowledgeable in Kibbe help me figure out what lines these are? I would be very grateful.
pic related - dress on the right
Aly doesn't look like a bobble headed kid, she looks like a small granny. She isn't really petite either, just very short.
Everybody always seems to think "I'm short and therefore I must be a gamine" which simply isn't true, there's more to it than just height.
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That is a typical gamine line>>121801
If I hold my hands over Aly's face, I see a gamine body. In combination with her face it doesn't look this way anymore but like a grandma. She also hides her real features on her videos for example showing only the front of her face. I had to see through 8 videos until she showed her profile finally. She also creates a rounder outline for her thin lips to fit the Soft Gamine type better. She does have many yang features and I don't know why she sees herself as a soft type. She could be a Flamboyant Gamine. This type needs drama and Aly looks really great with wild long tousled hair and clothes a la Gwen Stefani who is a Flamboyant Gamine too. FG are very diverse and don't need to look necessarily young/cute/boyish.
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>>121780>I'm a dramatic classic and my kibbe choices are basically blouses and trenchcoats in the white, grey or black - and of course nobody wants that shit, so they lie to themselves.
I don't know which video it was but Classics tend to be more flexible than any other type since they are balanced. You can borrow certain elements from other types and it would look fabulous. Also dramatic and classical elements are in your DNA, so whatever you wear, you will never look cheap and boring.
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This was just an example. Of course Classics can wear more casual outfits. They just have to be symmetrical and nicely fitted. No washed-out materials.
There's no fucking way Ellysas and Merriam are SG. This makes me so paranoid that I'm mistyping myself too if I have any kind of latent body dysmorphia since I do like the idea of the kawaii uwu SG.
Aly, I can see why she sees herself as gamine, but not SG. All types are going to look like "grandmas" eventually anyway but I think she's riding the gamine thing too hard. She looks ridiculous in all the bold eyeglasses in her videos recently. I agree she looks more herself in longer, "natural" hair and I think her features are too moderate/average to be gamine.
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This anon >>121780
was totally right. >That's because everybody (including farmers) wants to be an uwu cute gamine.
Some women struggle to grow up and live in a bubble where they are still young and cute. Yes, you are probably young and cute but not like a teenager anymore. More like a young woman with curves and edges and lots of character.
Quite honestly I don't mind if they all want to be Soft Gamines because reasonable women will look even better next to them. They can have all the pink frilly uwu kawaii dresses on this world but they will look like huge babies or like trannies.
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a = 5
c = 8
b = 2
e = 1
People I look very similar to kendall, same height weight and measurements.
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Some tips about determining your type until I get around to posting some exercises DK posted on FB:
-height is a factor. If you're over 5'7", you must be a D or N, but if you are short you can be any type.
-clothing has no type. Anyone can wear anything if it's styled correctly
-R is always soft and fleshy unless underweight. They have very small bones. Think Marilyn Monroe
-TR is R with added narrowness/sharpness. They will never ever have wide shoulders and may or may not be curvy. Think Vivien Leigh.
-SG has both more sharpness and more roundness than TR. It is slightly broader than TR. Bette Davis is the iconic SG.
-SN is the widest boned of the yin types. She may have a stereotypically gamine personality and can express that, but she should still stick to SN lines.
-all of those types above are petite with some natural curves and softness. no exceptions.
-a cohesive outfit always looks better than a boring one, regardless of whether it fits your "type". Because of this, it's easy to trick yourself into believing you are something you're not. >>121892
I used to delude myself into thinking I was a kawaii uwu SG too, lol. I look so much nicer now that I've embraced my actual type and coloring. I used to look like a gawky teenager but now I literally turn heads walking down the street.>>121891
This is true. For an example of how SC can dress casually, I love Grace Kelly. Kibbe calls her the quintessential classic and she looks gorgeous in casual clothes.
Thanks anon, I know the women you're referring to (look like trannies because frills don't suit them, but look amazing in more adult clothing) but I like frills as well and I'm terrified I look like a tranny too and am blind to it lol.
I am trying to grow up more and find more "adult" ways to wear SG-lite clothing so I don't look like a looney autist/tranny lolita
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What's interesting is, according to this chart there's no type for a yang face, yin flesh, and yang bones. Likewise, no way to have a balanced face but yin flesh. etc etc.
I think people that don't fit any types don't fit them because of this?
This finally put some light into my doubts. Apparently, I have yang bones with balanced flesh and yin face. Let's say I'd just put myself between SN and SD.
This season will be fun doing some shopping, with these guidelines.
Just because your face is symmetrical and your body proportionate doesn't mean you're attractive.
I'm DC and have way edgier/harder features than I would like to have.
I wish I was gamine or romantic, something soft, and could dress cute and simply, all my option are way too dressy, even the casual ones >>121891
Answer ''E'' looks off…her jaw looks quite sharp. Ginnifer Goodwin has an answer E jawline. Not sure how reliable this version is tbh>>121932
I think you are TR as well, you don't have enough opposite answers to be gamine or Cs to be classic. Mila Kunis is a verified TR and her waist and hips are fairly straight, too. She looks great in TR lines. But then again, I've seen people say that she's actually SN, but she does not have a Natural skeleton. Maybe try on a dress with TR lines?
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I dunno anon, she has a pretty petite build and a large head in relation to her body. I'd wager she is somewhere between gamine and soft gamine.
I might be off base here but I got curious and checked the test with your results. 5'10 is quite tall for a Classic and the logic of C answers that "x if proportional to the rest of my body" means that it's appropriately big for 5'10. By your description I imagine you as tall but with more waist definition. Might be worth a shot to check out Soft Dramatic even if it goes against the answers.
It really depends whether height matters or not for Kibbe types. Different people claim different things.
I'm tall, but I don't have a lot of things the average tall woman has (I mean that I have a different body type than the average model): my legs aren't very long, just average for my height, I have big feet and hands, but they also don't look as long and spindly as many other tall women's.
I probably have wider hips (around as wide as my shoulders), my waist is my thinnest point, my chest is medium, but on the other hand I'm also naturally a bit on the more muscular side and my facial features are a bit too strong. I wouldn't really see myself as soft…?
I'm SC. Coloring is something he talks about in the book and in person with people who consult with him. If you wear colors that aren't nice on you, you won't look as good. For example I used to wear a lot of bright pastels, but they washed me out and made me look tired.>>121934
You only need to look at bone structure and flesh for determining type.
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She looks younger and happier in the after pic but Kibbe's taste is sooooo 80s kek. >>121960
Apparently SG, G and FG look good in unnatural and vivid hair colours. So theoretically she should look good with this light blonde colour. I'm indecisive if it fits her or not. Her mousy brown hair she had a little while ago was way worse imo.>>121912
TR I agrew>>121949
Probably FG. You have very little balanced features and lots of contrast.>>121958
Yes you're leaning more towards DC according to your answers. Your height isn't a problem if people guess your height right. It's more about proportions. Also DC is the tallest among all Classic types.
Thank you link anon. I honestly will just tell someone else to do the test on me because maybe you guys are right and i'm not being objective.
I'll give you some examples:>My eyes are VERY round, droopy, small, and slightly widely spaced. No option fits this, not even vaguely. All wide set options are for narrow eyes, all round eye options are for big/upturned/close set eyes.
>Because of my fat distribution my flesh feels very different in my upper and lower body, so all flesh questions have either no answer or are all over the place.
>The waistline question jumps from "slightly defined" to "very small" with no in-between, normal, defined waistline. Like ???.
There were other things too but i can't remember right now.
>>121987>My eyes are VERY round, droopy, small, and slightly widely spaced. No option fits this, not even vaguely. All wide set options are for narrow eyes, all round eye options are for big/upturned/close set eyes.
Yeah I see your problem here. I would opt for answer D in this case.
>Because of my fat distribution my flesh feels very different in my upper and lower body, so all flesh questions have either no answer or are all over the place.
There is just one question of your overall body shape and the other questions are more specific. I would leave this question out and at the end of the test I would estimate the significance of this particular answer. You can post your answers here and we'll take a look.
>The waistline question jumps from "slightly defined" to "very small" with no in-between, normal, defined waistline. Like ???.
This is answer C. Balanced and normal.
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I literally have no idea where I fall on the scale.
I don't have the patience to pause the YouTube video every 5 seconds and go back to examples I may have missed, so I took this quiz: https://cozyrebekah.com/2019/04/12/kibbe-body-type-test/
I am 5'3" for reference.
Ugh that's difficult. I would say SG since you have some contrast (5 yang - 3 balanced - 6 yin) leaning more towards soft. If someone has another interpretation than post it here please.
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Trying to figure out my type. I have big tits and a very defined waist but I'm 5'7 with broad shoulders and short arms. I'm leaning towards soft dramatic.
Seconding. I'm a little jelly.
Hahahahah, no. That's me. Might drop a pic later.
You probably won't see this, but for any anons who have answers that are hard to interpret, try having your mom or a female friend take it for you.>>123961
You look like a soft or flamboyant natural to me. I don't see soft dramatic or romantic at all.
No way she's Flamboyant Natural. FN are yang dominant, squarish, angular, tendency to muscular, long limbs. I see none of that.>>123961
Stunning body anon, damn.
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I was definitely leaning towards SN out of the two, but FN can have curves. Look at Lynda Carter. Her bones look blunt and wide to me and she seems like someone who would build muscle really easily if she wanted to.
FNs look tall and have long legs and arms whereas >>123961
has shorter limbs and looks way smaller and softer. This anon >>124036
is 100% right. FN has more Yang than Yin. Stop spreading bs.
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What do you guys think I am? I have an unfortunate body. I don't know how to dress for it, or the diet I should be eating to have a more flattering figure. pulled back t shirt with rolled sleeves n' pajama workout shorts bc I don't own any clothes other than pants and sweaters
to be safe you really shouldn't do that
if you insist on getting your type determined on the internet by random kibbe, post your face on the seasonal color tapatalk. Personally I think you might be better off by getting some help in determining your type from a friend or sister or something, or going to the stores and trying on different types of kibbe clothing. Any help you're getting online is from enthusiasts who don't nessercarily know more than you do
>>124226>to be safe you really shouldn't do that
I don't post my face anywhere else on the internet; people would be damned to try to find me and dox me elsewhere. I don't post my face on threads where I've given any personal information. It's usually on /soc/ or cosplay threads where I drop a pic with a one sentence caption, and leave.
>a friend or sister or something
I'm an only child and social isolate. Even if I wasn't, I don't think someone would watch a half hour of Kibbe body types on YouTube to determine mine for me. I'm on a thread dedicated to it, it's less of a pain.
>Any help you're getting online is from enthusiasts who don't necessarily know more than you do
These people don't know me, so they're going to have an unbiased view, usually. They'll better at it than me trying to determine it myself, because I see myself differently than others do.
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I have this dress and it's probably my #1 clothing item that looks best on me. Thoughts on what kibbe type this dress could "belong" to?
Imo this dress has some contrasting elements. Some are from the Gamine family, the others are from yang types like Dramatic or Natural
Gamine family elements>cuffed at the wrists>high neckline>waist definition>heavy print on contrasting flowing fabric
D/N>long unbroken silhouette >no color blocks>loose tailoring
Which part of the dress do you think flatters you? Its long lines and relaxed fabric or that it frames you with the waist emphasis, buttons and cuffs? If it's the first I would say Soft Natural, if it's the second I would say Soft Gamine.
I think Dramatic Classics can have some A answers in their skeleton, as long as Cs are still in the majority.
You're a gamine if you have extremes of yin and yang, with few or no C answers. If your skeleton and flesh are all mixed and C answers are not in the majority, you can't be a classic.
I'd recommend trying on clothing recommendations, since DC and FG lines are pretty different.
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I think I resemble Phoebe Waller-Bridge a lot (unfortunately)
Would you say she’s a Dramatic?
It's definitely the long lines and relaxed fabric. The neckline I wear buttoned down because I feel it looks "constricted" otherwise.
I've done some more research and I definitely think I'm a natural type now! This helped a lot, thanks for taking the time to analyze it for me!
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What type would you say Mia Khalifa is? I wanna know bc my face looks quite a bit like hers and so does my body but my hips are a bit wider.
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Her shoulders are wide and her face is quite yang. She looks strange with romantic clothes. Her fake breasts make it harder to determine her type just as Kim Kardashian. Both are Soft Naturals btw and they really try to look softer with their plastic curves but they can't change that skeleton.
I have to wonder though, can Kim K even be categorized considering how botched her body is?
Good question. Aly has made a video about Kim and how plastic surgery impacts your type. Kim is naturally a Soft Natural but wanted to look glamorous like a Romantic/Theatrical Romantic and that's why she got surgery. She looks great in Soft Natural styling and clothes but since she botched herself, nothing really looks right on her anymore.>>124427
Yes some women have the same problem. According to Kibbe the body is more important. Mia wears a wrong line though and therefore she looks quite strange here >>124422
She looks good here >>124365
because she's posing in a certain way that we assume she has a romantic body type. I would love to see that outfit without photoshop and posing honestly.
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A lot of this discussion including the op chart just seems like mumbo jumbo to me.
I don't have a nice body, but I also genuinely believe I'd get nothing out of this thread by staying around to try to define it by these strange descriptors and terms. Just another floater on /g/ for me.
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Just try it. We are here to help you. Now I sound like a guru kek
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Here are some photos of Kim from 2007, looks like she is mostly pre-PS
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I love Merriam's content but she is frumpy (especially for a stylist). Is this really Soft Gamine?
if kibbe is so foolproof why does every kibbe guru recommended on this thread look so drab and boring? >>124473
and and aly art are just normal women to me, i would never peg them as fashion/style experts experts on first glance.
Because these women always struggled with fashion anyway with or without Kibbe. They thought if they will be fashion gurus and learn everything from Kibbe then they will be style queens. They just have no talent or the eye to see certain forms and colors and how they really affect someone's type. We already discussed a little bit here >>121711
and here >>121775
and all three fashion gurus think that they are Soft Gamines kek. I also wouldn't take any style advice from them.
If I only look at Merriams body and not her face, then I feel like I look at a Dramatic Classic. She looks very balanced but has a bit of yang in her. Her shoulders aren't too wide or soft, her hips and waistline seem also moderate. Gamines consists of high contrast which she doesn't have in her body.
Now her face is mostly yang. There is no softness except for the eyes which are big but this doesn't qualify her for the Gamine category. Her face is Dramatic imo.
If I look at the two pictures on the right, then imo she looks better with the blazer which gives her more yang and sharpness. She looks like a grandmother with soft clothes.
Imo she's probably a Dramatic Classic although her face isn't so balanced. I can't imagine her wearing clothes a la Cate Blanchett or Tilda Swinton. Maybe she should try pure Dramatic lines though because she looks kind of boring and frumpy.
it looks like she uses white pencil on her waterline and forces her eyes open
hey im confused about my results. i'm 5'7", overweight, 36 inch chest, 28 inch waist, 40 inch hips. but i have hip dips and some angularity to my body? a weird ass mix of a face too.
results (aly art's video):
bone structure: 1B, 2C, 3C, 4B
body type: 5D, 6D, 7E, 8D
face: 10B, 11B, 12B, 13C, 14D
flesh of cheekbones: 15C
overall: 1A, 5B, 4C, 4D, 2E
sorry for the ramble but i am confused. i could see myself as a flamboyant gamine, dramatic classic, or even soft natural? any suggestions?
Soft natural for sure! (B-Dominance in skeleton and facial bones, with yin flesh). But since I can’t see your body, maybe try the type’s clothing recommendations and see which look best on you. If you’re a soft natural, flamboyant gamine will look quite separate from you.
Judging from your answers, I’m pretty sure you’re neither DC nor FG, as you have no sharpness, but bluntness in your body.
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Holy fucking shit, what kind of phrenology-like borferline-eugenics madness is this thread?
Are you the same women that object to men rating us on a scale from 1-10? Because this is far far worse.
Shutting me up>pearl-clutcher
Insulting>you're missing the whole point
Calling me ignorant
Wow, I've never seen such a condensed attempt at shaming before.
Nah it's just farmers here who rather say insulting one-liners instead of actual arguments
Anyway I agree. This is some r/trurateme shit. I don't see why attractive people can't just be attractive and people have to play crazy mind games for something as petty as looks
If you don't agree with the Kibbe system you're very welcome to leave this thread or present your opinion substantianed with arguments.
is just about on the same level as >>124594
and are both equally useless
On Reddit truerateme you must rate people from 1 to 10. It's simply superficial and about attentiveness.
This here is Kibbe. All types are beautiful and no one is rating anyone here, just saying what bodyshape they have like apple, hourglass and so on except in this case we have 13 body types. Some women need help in order to know which line fit them the best.
Everyone here who thinks we are rating people's attractiveness is either a man or just dumb.
Quick and condensed shaming is all your post deserved since you obviously made no attempt to understand what this thread is about and just opened a quick reply to be annoying. The entire point of the Kibbe system is to NOT judge, rate or compare which bodies are better than others since all of them have unique features and beauty. It's about being the best version of yourself and also helps train your practical perception of aesthetics like understanding visual weight, harmony and interaction of elements - skills useful and applicable to other creative areas of life.
If this is enough for you, you along with >>124600
can go back to the ruined radfem Pink Pill thread and project your deep seated issues with beauty and appearance over there where it's warranted.
It’s all about the bones. What are the answers for your bone structure, including facial bones, shoulders, vertical line etc.?
What answers did you get for the flesh categories?
On the body part I got all Es except vertical line (b), arm and leg length (c) and boobs (a)
On the face part I got Mostly Ds except cheekbones (b) and hair (a). I also had my friend fill it out while looking at me to control for bias and the answers were similar (she put my eyes at e and my boobs at b but the others were the same)
How is she an sd if she only has 2 a answers and a majority of yin answers? Asking because i'm an sd and all of my bone answers are a, and the same amount of flesh answers split evenly between d and e.
I think that anon is definitely one of the yin leaning types, but i don't know a lot about the differences between those types.
SD has mostly A answers and few D/E answers. This anon >>124831
is right with her tipping. She >>124805
is definitely a TR because she has mostly D/E answers and few A answers.>>124863
If your answers are evenly split between yin (D/E) and yang (A/B), then you have a high contrast which means you're most likely a gamine. Can't be sure 100% without your answers.
Dumb question, but how can you differentiate it?
Ntayrt but I can't determine my type since I'm a bit overweight
i made that post: >>124863
i checked my answers again and there were 7 As and 6 D/Es and the rest Cs. So yeah, they're not split equally, there's a slight A majority.
i also love flamboyant gamine clothes but i look like an old woman dressed in toddler clothes when i wear them. there's really no way i'm a gamine lol
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Kibbe himself said you can't be over tall and a TR. The tallest official TR is 5'7", and Kibbe said he thinks she isn't actually even that tall.
My ansers were 9C, 2B, 2A, 3D and no E's.
So, classic obviously, altough I feel between DC and pure C.
I was thinking I could be N before, but don't think I am "heavy" enough. I have wider shoulders than hips, but my chest is proportional to my hips, and even if I feel insecure about having big shoulders people often say they don't notice them straight obviously when looking at me.
Tbh, Kibbe for me is better when I think of the 5 basic types, the inbetween ones difficult it all, specially when you first hear of it.
So my tip is to first analyze what you're not according to the descriptions of the main types.
So you probably have like 3C and 3D and 3E (6D/E) - 7A which isn't really qualifying a a Gamine indeed. SD is the right choice for sure.>>124875
Height is relative for Kibbe. There are for examples Gamines who are 5'7 (Audrey Hepburn, Bridget Bardot, both are Kibbe confirmed) and taller 5'10 (Zendaya) although Kibbe states that Gamines can't be 5'6 and taller. Women are getting taller and taller plus it's more about the vertical line. We should ask anon >>124805
how tall she appears. Do people think she's smaller or taller than her actual height?
>>124881> Women are getting taller
meaning women are getting more yang dominant
Height in kibbe is relative to some extent, but that doesn't mean that someone who's significantly taller or shorter than X type (Like Zendaya) can still be that type.
>>124891> Why would someone choose deliberately to be small?
i almost trooned out because of my body. i hate standing out. i don't wanna be the tall sexy woman, especially as a software engineer. my looks don't match my personality at all. i wouldn't mind being just tall honestly, i just don't wanna be tall and sexy.
can't wait to get a breast reduction tbh
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Soft Gamine here, i think the wannabe gamine-ism is so funny, because i always wanted to be a dramatic or classic, if i could i would look just like kaya scodelario.
Gamines most of the time will look childish and dweeby, its hard to actually look nice.
Even hard to pull off chic or edgy styles without looking like a teen.
Kibbe has said elsewhere that he thinks all celebrities exagerate their height. So in his opinion if a celeb says she's 5'7 she's probably about 5'5.>>124874
If you don't identify with SD you could check out FN (since a lot of people confuse bluntness with softness, I've heard of FNs thinking they're more yin than they are) or FG again (since a lot of people have a really inaccurate idea of FG and just go super twee)
lol gamine isn't childlike, just short.
girls want to be SG becuase SG are soft smol beans with heart shaped faces.
Technically, being shorter will make you gain weight worse, 5kgs show different on a small frame than on a tall one.
Most "trending" weeb style suit gamines more, so yeah, probably anime influence.
I … think so? I was at like 110 lbs in high school and I seem to have the type of body type that never gains weight in the torso and never loses it in the limbs. even at that weight my thighs still touched and my arms were still chubby… does that count as flesh then?>>124881
I put my vertical line as B, nobody has ever accused me of looking shorter than I am lol.
I'm pretty sure flesh isn't about where or how much you do(n't) gain weight, but how tight ('taut') the skin's around the bones. Check the thread's image, the skin of the women on the left (yin) is very full, not at all tight, the bones don't show up underneath the skin. The more it progresses to the right (yang) the more tight the skin sits around the bones; cheekbones, jawline, nose, muscles around the mouth become more pronounced, you can visibly see them sit underneath the skin.
If I'm wrong, by all means correct me, but this is how I understand what kibbe means by flesh
I'm this anon >>124289
I finally realized I'm a flamboyant gamine after seeing some Lady Gaga's photos, even tho she is so small and I'm 1.65 cm (5'5)
I had a hard time accepting it and i'm still kinda sad about it. I just wanted to be an elegant classic.
If it makes you feel any better, men will treat you like garbage regardless of body type.
I think I'm a classic…
I have this issue although I'm not as tall (5'6").
What that anon says sounds about right. I find myself having to balance mature styles with cute elements, but if I go too far one way I look either too old or too young lmao.
For example I like wearing cuter shoes like oxfords instead of heels. Or I buy dress pants and skirts with button embellishments. Or just something like a peter pan collar on a blouse, or one small bow on some flats.
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I'm a dramatic classic.
I like edgier type of clothing and look very well in gamine-esque type clothing as long as it is clean cut. The more makeup I put on, the shittier I look. Too much jewelry or big pieces definitely look wierd on me. I look more put together with hair that is cleaned up or somewhat elegant styles or simple pretty styles.
Pretty much, imo, as long as it looks clean cut (less is more or simplified is more most of the time) I'm good.
In the end, I'm just a subtype of classic so as long as I don't stray from that I'm pretty okay.
Before I took the test I thought I'd be a flamboyant gamine for sure if not a soft gamine. It has made me realize I look more…"refined" or like a little lady or some kind of adult child compared to gamine. I dress how I want though.
If anybody cares and wants, I can post a collage of some outfits that work and don't work for me.
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I mainly wanted to know my Kibbe thing so I can experiment more. It's fun figuring why certain things work or not. I hope everyone just has fun and doesn't take this stuff toooo seriously or becomes frustrated.
Obviously, I don't take it serious where I'm matching all the office clothing under dramatic classic on pinterest. That's just not for me.
I like dressing up and am always experimenting and open to suggestions. Even though my makeup is better on the simple side, I still play with that too.
These are just some clearer photos of this spring/summer where you can see most of the outfits. I desaturated and spoilered the collage just to help keep it on the down low. I'll kind of run through them with my opinion (left-right, top-bottom):
1. It's hard to see, but it's a collared dress in a sheer material. The collar is sharp with some very small studs. The top part looks great on me and helps make my face look nice. If the fabric was heavier and more fitted, it would work better. No loud shoes or socks. Overall a pass.
2. The stripes of the top clash with me and the velvet and mesh material is too soft for me. The neckline is the saving grace. If the outfit gets louder, it won't work. Only extremely simple accessories work and clean, simple makeup.
3. I can pass in this type of gamine dress, but the print doesn't particularly do much for me. The collar is round and would look better if sharp (but round Peter Pan collars are my weakness). Again, I can't let this get louder as the print is already enough as are the rounded sleeves. Would be better tailored.
4-5. Simple and sweet with more solid material that hugs my body without being overly sensual really works. Like this, I can add makeup or accessories that don't surpass my essence, but can be a little more bold.
6. The skirt's line is too long for me. It is too loud. The simple cut works. The top is fitted, the collar is higher, the material is solid. This top always works for me dressed up or down. The heaviness of the fabric in this outfit supports my bone structure.
7. Too yin for my yang. The heaviness of the fabrics and simplicity saves me.
8. It is simple and clean. I like to wear a bra that has bows that peak out through the straps of this top. That is already too much if not enough on top. The material is heavy and supports my bone structure. The shoes are patent leather, pretty loud.
9. I'm wearing a collared shirt under the sweater. I think it is a gamine/classic look. I pass well with this look. The skirt print is pretty animated. I can't let this get louder. For example, no printed stockings would work for me with this or flamboyant jewelry. It would have to be very subtle.
10-12. Doesn't work for me. 10 is too flowy, unconstructed, loud, and long. Its so bad jfc. 11 I can get away with by trying to give the illusion of tailoring with folds and tucks, but its too much. I still wear this outfit though because I enjoy it. 12 suddenly makes my yang show in a not so flattering way so I'm very careful with this dress and what I add on. I like it, but it isn't my best look either.
13. I can pass with the neckline, the simplicity, and yang-supporting heaviness of the fabric, but it is too unconstructed for me to positively stand out.
14. I can get away with the same as I can with 11, but moreso because it is much more toned down and simple. Very casual and decent. My makeup can be clean and bolder.
15. Doesn't quite work. The thigh high socks with that skirt seem too much. Shorter socks would be better next time. Also, that shirt is actually not fitted and kind of kills the look too.
So yeah, no trenchcoat in my closet. Just nice, plain coats. I don't own a pencil skirt either.
Can anybody help with more dramatic classic hair by the way-like very long styles? I've just been looking at Demi Moore (she seems like an older, more yangy me).
Am I a Soft Classic or am I too unbalanced?
Skeleton: 5'8", broad shoulders, longish limbs, wide but defined waist, wide hips, long hands and feet
Flesh: average flesh on limbs, vaguely hourglass figure (38-30-41)
Face: wide cheekbones, rounded nose, rounded almond eyes, rounded jaw, moderate nose and lips, soft cheeks. I actually look a lot like the Romantic example in the OP pic except with a smaller chin and wider cheekbones.
The women on my dad's side of the family are all Romantics, but the women on my mother's side are all Naturals, and I've seemingly inherited a random mix from either side. Help would be appreciated!
sorry for reviving a dead post put omg, I'm a dramatic classic and "cute & romantic" was my worst fashion phase. I never understood why I looked so… weird. this comparison sums it up perfectly.
the test only confirmed what I knew about myself and my own wardrobe. thankfully, I learned very early to ask "would I like this on me
" instead of "do I like this" and/or "do I like person x's look".
the fact that the test pretty much confirmed what I learned by carefully observing how fashion works for different people shows that it's pretty useful for people who don't have the right eye or don't want to invest a lot of time into figuring out aesthetics.
could you help me too, please?
I got on one test
A - 2
B - 4
C - 1
D - 5
E - 4
and on another
A - 1
B - 3
C - 5
D - 4
E - 1
I'm 5'3, very broad shoulders, average limbs, small bust but wide, widish hips and smallish waist (smaller than bust and hips), with narrow/long hands and feet
I'm more soft and fleshy than average, round/softly wide I'd say
I think I have wide fleshy cheeks, rounded softly wide nose, closer together or evenly spaced eyes, moderate or even slightly rounded average fullness
I'm so confused tbh but I think I may be romantic, maybe theatrical romantic. any help much appreciated!
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Not sure if it's confirmed, but D is basically a "sharper" yin. Kind of like B is a "soft" yang. Nonetheless, it's not really its own category. D answers are usually Theatrical Romantic elements. >>125912
You also sound like a Soft Natural to me, if your description is accurate! TRs won't have many B answers (since they have a Dramatic undercurrent, not a Natural), and on both tests you had quite a few.
If you are unsure, maybe try this: put your hair into a romantic hairstyle or try on romantic jewelry like on the images on the left (make sure everything is small, rounded and neat)
Soft natural hair and jewelry like on the right (more tousled, chunkier but still soft and slightly rounded).
Romantic lines will bring out your blunt angles if you're SN, and it'll be a bit too delicate for you. SN lines on a R are slightly overpowering.
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I need help figuring out my type anons, I've done the quiz several times and it's always D-dominant with a mixture of other random things.
A - 2 (lip shape is on the thinner side, but very small and not straight, so this could be a C, and my hipline is straight and narrow with violin hips, but my thighs are big and my widest point so I didn't know what to put)
B - 2 (wide bustline/not overly full, strongly textured hair)
c - 3 (moderate length of limbs, symmetrical/even shoulders, moderate waistline)
d - 6 (look slightly smallish, delicate hands, delicate hourglass, soft and slightly chubby flesh on my thighs and upper arms, slightly rounded cheekbones, soft and fleshy cheeks)
e - 3 (rounded, delicate jawline, rounded/softly wide nose, very round and large eyes)
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Thanks anon! I was having trouble deciding on soft classic, theatrical romantic and soft gamine but I felt like soft gamine was always a bit too twee with too many random details and TR didn't match my overall appearance (I don't give off a "sexy" vibe at all and am not very voluptuous), too much detail and frills made me look like a fruitcake even on my own wedding, so SC is a possibility.
I also wear glasses and have shoulder-length hair, and one issue I have is that they always make me look kind of busy and frumpy. My hair is also naturally unruly and frizzes up easily which looks bad. That means I'm probably SC, no ?
Also one more question - are there any easy hairdos I could do for a SC? It feels like a death sentence because I'm naturally clumsy and frumpy and really don't know how to groom myself or pick jewellery so it makes sense that I never look good…
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my answers are all over the place, so maybe people who can't seem to find their type will find this helpful:
5'2" 105 lbs
bone structure - AAAAA
flesh - CACCA
facial features - DEDCED
i'm totally lost and would appreciate some help
i'm leaning towards gamine but i have a lot of moderate answers, i could be wrong though
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here's a cropped photo, just realized the last one is distracting
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No problem! If tousled and slightly messy hair looks really frumpy on you then you're probably a classic. Naturals can pull off that kind of hair and it won't even look messy on them.
I think Kate Middleton often wears great SC hairstyles, they're simple and neat. As for jewelry - make sure it's not too fussy, Classics look their best when their accessories are understated and not super chunky or delicate.
apparently it's too late to delete the post, ah well
also i dont have fillers i just look like that :(
thank u, ur sweet
first time on lolcow i feel like a fool
thanks for the advice everyone
now i need to be brave enough to dress gamine
>>126075>now i need to be brave enough to dress gamine
Seeing as you felt the need to post multiple shots of yourself, that shouldn't be a problem at all. Also "I look so weird [sad emoji]" totally doesn't seem like fishing for compliments…
I hope to god that's really you and not just photos a troll stole from some poor girl.
sorry, didnt think i was coming across that way. i liked the thread and how brutally honest everyone is here so i thought it would be good to get to opinions here rather than reddit or a kibbe forum
it actually is me and im genuinely weird looking, someone even said i have botched face fillers. im not conventionally attractive and i know it and am cool with it, just makes this kibbe thing more confusing
They're not gonna do it, always have to follow the rules for free.
t. requested my double posts to be deleted within the 30 min limit since i couldn't delete it myself
Anyways I don't see what the big deal is there was a baldy qt posting here/larping as her and now we got a qt asian posting who may or may not be a larp.
post a selfie. It's just extremely stupid to associate your identity with this site and allow people to nitpick your perfectly ok face.
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Anons I need help. Trying to glow up as I just turned 19.
Am I dramatic, FG, FN (maybe N?) I can't tell and some stuff from these categories look fine on me, but I can't tell when I look the best.
To add more details :
I have a super hard time answering the bone structure/body flesh part of the test.
My answers for face are : 3A 3E 1B
Vertical line B, maybe A (can’t see your head)
Shoulders are A
Arms & Legs A
Hands & Feet A
Bust A (maybe c?)
Hips C, I think?
I think you are a Dramatic, not a Natural because your bones are narrow and all Natural have wider bones. Where do your answers for your face come from? Which are for the bones category and which for the flesh?
Jawline : E
Cheekbones (bone) :A
Hair : B but could have been E (very curly hair)
I am 5'5". I thought I was FG because of my face and too short for dramatic, but I did the test with a friend and she thinks I am natural but I don't see it too much.
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In my opinion you look balanced but with a little bit more Yang. For example your hands are answer B and your waist and breasts are answer A which give you the Yang undercurrent. Your arms, legs and your whole body seem pretty balanced though. Naturals have more muscle mass than you have. Olivia Palermo's body reminds me of yours.
it might be that you're a soft natural
when you work out, do you gain a lot of definition easily?
So, why's madonna a romantic? She's ugly as hell or am i not getting it?>>92684
none of those celebrity representations of the types are accurate imo
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Is there a guide for short hair for the body types? I'm a (D)C. Got my hair cut 3 months ago (pic related) and I'm about to revisit my hairdresser. I think I intuitively picked the right style because I got lots of compliments from women and men (didn't expect the latter), but I'd still like some guidance.
All I could find was style advice for long hair.
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Yeah I'm not seeing how Madonna is curvy
Her face is also made of a lot of harsh, wide turns instead of pillowy softness. Does kibbe think she looks like Debbie harry or something?
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Debbie Harry for comparison (since they look pretty similar but two different types)
>>126794>>126788>brainlet>gee why would the most feminine type be typically the prettiest
pls, stop insulting me and think before you post.
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Kibbe has nothing to do with how beautiful you are. Every type is beautiful in fact in its own way.
And Madonna is definetely a Romantic because her features are very rounded, small and soft. You can see this especially when she was younger. Nowadays she's too muscular, too thin and she butched her face with plastic surgery. Her face looks harsh indeed and it doesn't suit her at all.
That's how a lot of celebrities are sadly. There's no in-between anymore, if you're thin you have to be super thin if you're curvy you have to be super curvy if you're muscular you have to be super muscular and so on. Everyone just wants the extreme look and nothing is flattering anymore
As for kibbe it does unnecessarily overcomplicate things and doesn't really help with finding flattering outfits because there's such a diverse range of body types and even if a few people are the same "type" not a lot of things will look good on them
high yin =/= feminine beauty
most models and actresses are dramatics or naturalsp
Kibbe taught me to embrace my features instead of working against them. When I was younger, I tried to hide my yang influence behind cute feminine clothing, not realizing that the contrast highlighted my harsher features. I thought that wearing minimalist, classic clothes would make me look manly and old, but it's the exact opposite. It suits me.
Madonna changed her appearance to reflect the opposite of her natural type which makes her look kinda off.
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So, what's her type?
Somewhat joking, but also my body is very close so I'm wondering.
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I noticed something very interesting lately: mostly Naturals tend to go under the knife to achieve a Romantic body type. Of course other types do it too but if I look at botched plastic surgeries, the amount of women who are SN,N,FN is overwhelming like Kim Kardashian, Mia Khalifa, Iggy Azalea, Katy Price, Kylie Jenner… There's also this Youtuber I forgot about and damn she looks busted with her 24 years. She made her breast, ass and face to look more curvy like Beyonce who is a Romantic. She looked so cute before ps and ugly mismatched styling
I bet that's because naturals are most average. And not average like perfectly balanced average like classics are. just average.. Every other type has something that makes them stand out (romantics are sexy, gamines look childlike etc), naturals are pretty much defined by the lack of something that stands out.
No offence I'm a natural myself but it's unfortunate.
Naturals can pull off gorgeous boho styles though, which can look really pretty, especially if you go with a forest elf kind of vibe.
I'm a soft classic and it's really annoying because nobody cares about soft classics and all the tips that exist are so vague. Like, the only thing people can agree on is that Marion Cotillard is one, the rest of the recommendations are always the same as soft gamine and too twee.
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I think she's an Ingenue Theatrical Romantic bc her natural face and body don't qualify for Gamine at all. Gamines can wear short hair very well, especially with a lot of contrast. Ariana looks best with long and natural/soft looking hair colors (balayage etcetera. She also has close set eyes which a lot TRs have. With all that plastic surgery she's pushing herself more into the SG category for sure. But she's still looking best with TR clothes and she's loosing her chic and looks like a nun with high collars which is typically a Gamine's best friend. It makes Ariana just dull, she needs her sexy TR clothes with a youthful touch to look good.
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So I am a soft natural, and I want to start buying clothes by my type; however when I look up for inspo on Pinterest or Google, all of the recommendations are so ugly and dated
Does anyone here, especially fellow SN, have any kind of wardrobe inspo? I really like this type of Japanese casual business fashion, would this work for SN?
Also I don't know if this is relevant at all but I am pear shaped.
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I believe it's because these women have a preference for turbo-sexual looks that clash with Natural body types. Naturals have their own charm but it comes alive in relaxed lines that are most commonly used in casual and more modest styles.
Meanwhile these girls want the Fashion Nova look of skintight skimpy outfits, tons of makeup and intricate hair. Naturals look awkward in those styles because of their blunt bones and might even sometimes look like men in drag due to their wider shoulders. So they opt for fillers and surgery to try and achieve a body that compliments the styling they want.
Vogue knows what they're doing imo and they always style Kim very nicely. She looks really beautiful in their photos and you can't even see her corrections. But we know Kim will never choose to dress this way. She likes chic, glam and slickness.
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And yet she still looks better in rags than in her own style that makes her look like something out of RCDart's portfolio
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she looks ridiculous because she got too much plastic surgery and she looks derelict in that photo and has lost her mind being married to a psycho. kim looked great in her princess hoe shit before she was driven insane by celebrity induced bdd and a pornsick husband.
>>92682>1st try with aly art’s video:
2a, 4b, 2c, 1d, 6e.>2nd try with quiz:
1a, 3b, 5c, 1d, 6e.
Nani the fuck?
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What type is she? SN?
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Kibbe's taste is shit indeed, like he's stuck in the 80's. But keep in mind that it's all about the lines. His theory is legit and I have to say it helped me a lot. You can have any style you want but you have to consider that certain cuts and lines don't flatter you. For example you can be a Dramatic Classic but you could dress in a cute way and it would look great if the lines fit you. You can a Romantic and dress in a cool, edgy way but you have to consider the right lines again.
I definitely want to look edgy but I’m a TR >>128009
honestly love your style anon I’d definitely would dress like outfits 3-8 and 11-13
Any tips? >>128014
What type are combat boots and edgy look for?
I tried dressing like I should according to my type; it wasn't making me happy. It's so different from my personal taste/style. And yes, I could adapt some things here and there, incorporate some elements of my taste into my kibbe type but it was never truly what I really wanted to wear.
So now I wear what I really want to again and I feel much better and honestly? I look fine.
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Took cozyrebekah's quiz. Soft Natural (SN) or Natural (N)?
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>tfw find out that I'm a soft classic and my best look is pretty much "polished ballerina"
>I'm actually a sloppy bitch who doesn't know anything about haircare or how to do my eyebrows, I dress like gutter trash and am scatterbrained as fuck
>I'm also a dark autumn and look terrible in light colours
pls help a sloppy bitch anons, I don't want to die ugly.
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I can't figure this out. I'm not going to post my test results here because I have tried the test so many times and the results are always so different there's no point in mentioning them so I'm just going to describe my case. I'm 5' 3" and really slim, I don't gain weight easily and people often think I'm younger than I actually am, I always have trouble finding clothes that suit me, everything is too big or baggy, I need to look for really petite clothes and shopping is hard, especially because I have an hourglass figure and my thighs and butt area are thicker than the rest of my body, so I'm kind of disproportionate on that regard. My arms, hands and ankles are kinda long and frail, I'm a chestlet and my shoulders are sharp and broad, my eyes are small and almond-shaped, my facial features are pretty androgynous except for my lips and nose, this is the main reason I look like shit on heavy makeup because my facial features are way too sharp, my head is smaller compared to my shoulders and my bone structure is sharp. Sorry for my shitty english btw
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>Tfw you're a pure Romantic but have super broad and angular shoulders so you look fucking weird and off
This is going to sound retarded as Romantic is literally the most femenine body type next the Ingenue but isn't there a more masculine/androgynous take on this style? i don't mind waist enfasis and soft clothes but the overall aesthetic it's just too ~*superfemme and glamorous*~, please help. >>130588
There's people trying to make Ingenue happen but i just saw the pinterest tag and damn, Ingenue styling looks literally ddlg-like.
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Lupita as an "ingenue"
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Lupita not following ingenue rules at all
Imo she looks better on Ingenue styling, maybe is that blue dress, it kinda hides her waistline.
Also is Ethereal a thing or just a meme? people seem to define it as "dramatic, but rounder and with longer lines. Femenine, but not sexy or playful" but idk, most of them are just fusions or extremes, i struggle to see it as an actual type specially when is used for otherwise plain looking people to believe they have a ~*special kibbe type.
If you /really/ have broad or strongly defined shoulders, you're not a Romantic, but a Soft Natural. Or if you're tall, Flamboyant Natural. >>130588
D is for Theatrical Romantic, Ingenue isn't even a part of kibbe >>132884
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Thanks for answering i neeed help with this honestly. >If you /really/ have broad or strongly defined shoulders, you're not a Romantic, but a Soft Natural.
Idk those are just my shoulders anon, that's why it look so off: i have next to no yang on my body, my bone structure is soft, i'm not broad, muscular or sharp at all and everything is fleshy but the only areas that for some reason have so much drama going on are my shoulders and arms. It looks like somebody pasted dramatic-looking shoulders/arms on Marylin Monroe, kinda like a hourglass shaped figure.
I wish i was SN actually, they have structure to their faces but mine is literally shapeless, it looks like pic related.
Here my measurements:
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what’s my Kibbe type? Pic related is me
You look kinda like me but with small shoulders (i'm this anon >>132836
), very soft adn slim, i think you're a Romantic.
I'd say one of the classic types. Maybe soft, if your face isn't super dramatic or mature looking, because the dress is kinda soft and it looks good on you.>>132929
She looks too tall and not fleshy enough to be a romantic, and she would have a more exaggerated hourglass shape from this angle and in this pose.
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I’m 5’7”. With heels I’m 6’0”. >>132953
My face looks like pic related except with a narrower and sharper nose.
You can't get an accurate reading with someone else's picture anon.
But I agree you're not romantic, too tall.
3C?? (my arms are short for my height but legs are way longer in proportion)
16A/B?? (i have extremely straight and soft but thick hair)
I've gotten pretty even numbers in a lot of categories, so I'm having a hard time figuring out where I fall. Maybe flamboyant gamine?
My totals added up to A:4, B:4, C:3, D:1, and E:4
And these were my specifics.
1.B, 2.C, 3.A, 4.D, 5.C, 6.B, 7.C, 8.B, 9.A, 10.E, 11.E, 12.A, 13.E, 14.E, 15.B, 16.A
yes it does. slimness is a huge part of your body's yin or yang structure. slim doesn't mean skinny in this context.>>132975
that's basically correct width instead of wide is a better word to use.
I think you're a dramatic. That's really tall and you probably have a really sharp bone structure. >>132969
Maybe SD? It doesn't sound like FN. You tall women have it easy though, just look at the celebs and descriptions for FN, SD, and D and pick what seems most accurate.
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What kibbe type is Katie McGrath? I don't know why, but she looked so great in Merlin, but the styling on Supergirl is a bit too harsh(idk if that is the right word) for her.
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For reference, I just don't feel like this works on her. I don't know what kibbe type it would work for, but she isn't it.