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No. 85681

Do any anons here have an autism spectrum disorder? The symptoms present differently In women, and it's heavily misdiagnosed. Share your experiences/feelings. <3 [pic unrelated]

No. 96656

I was told to come here for posting myself as a self-aware autist on lolcows
uhhhh

I'm diagnosed, its weird, my parents say I need to work and get job and yet….? they also tell me I'm too "obvious" to get a job and say I'll be fired, since no one likes autistic people?
and yet I get made fun of for being a NEET even though its other people not wanting me to work. I can't get a job since I'm dxed autistic and no one wants me to work.

its all a contradicting Mess, and my dad and big brother think I'm faking it despite knowing me since birth, I even have brain fog and get overstimulated and have to go rest in my room even if I do work, its still difficult

No. 142094

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>>85681
its fucking obivious i have autism and i was gonna get it diagnosed (in case the doctor were to believe me) but that wouldve required me to make a move and contact him or whatever and i never did it. i dont fit into society or any groups of people and i really wanna cease existing. it feels like ive been dissociating through my whole life with how terrible i have always been at connecting with reality around me - people and daily events. everyone else is just in a completely different world than me. they dont view themselves as a character in a story theyre writing. somehow theyre capable of just living and interacting with others without it all being scripted

No. 142117

>>142094
>i was gonna get it diagnosed but that wouldve required me to make a move
Well this is relatable. I only really pieced together that I'm autistic at around 29. I had previously been diagnosed with anxiety and avoidant personality. The wait list for ASD assessment is 3 years long and my mental health team already pretty much confirmed that they see traits of autism so I'm treating that as if it's a diagnosis.

I can't stand making appointments or answering lots of questions so tbh the assessment sounds like hell. At this point I don't see what I'd even gain from it, my childhood/teens were already a disaster because nobody understood my cluster of social/sensory issues.

No. 142131

can someone explain the purpose of being diagnosed? there is no cure or treatment for autism, right?

No. 142132

>>142131
To get welfare is usually the main reason, although there is "treatment" in the sense of therapy to manage certain stressors or basically just teach you how to socialize better.

No. 142139

>>142131
peace of mind, basically. also it's in the nature of autism itself to want to know this stuff

No. 142143

When I was googling info on getting the assessment for ASD as an adult I kept seeing articles about how valid self-diagnosis is when it comes to autism.

I have mixed feelings because in one way I understand that for me all the pieces came together when I learnt about autism, every quirk or sensory issue suddenly made alot of sense and it explained a whole range of things I'd struggled with since childhood. Now I haven't been assessed but like I said here >>142117 my mental health team did confirm to me that they highly suspect it. If I do persue assessment it will take 3 years to be seen. I feel relatively confident that I do have it but how do you guys feel about full on self diagnosis without any professional opinion?

No. 142225

Every time, I read up on autism, I barely understand the difference between it, being socially awkward, or being socially surrounded by autists.

No. 142343

My parents always knew in bad autism but refused to take me to a doctor. Do I get gibs for getting officially diagnosed? I'm retarded and can't work.

No. 154854

My dad and my brother both have autism, I've accepted pretty much my whole life that I was weird and people didn't like being around me much. I'm 27 now and I'm only just considering getting myself diagnosed because I did a lot of research about how autism presents in women, and I felt like I was reading about myself. I don't know how much it will change my life but hopefully it will just be a subtle thing to help me understand myself.

>>142225
There's a lot of overlap, but crucially autism isn't just about poor social skills.
Although I know from experience being surrounded by both social tards and autists will make whatever social skills you were gifted with worse.

No. 154875

>>142225
It's extremely trendy right now to have autism and the internet is really going out of it's way to convince everyone and their fucking dog that they have it. Depending on where you go/who you ask, the "criteria" for diagnosis is like 40+ traits at this point.

No. 154876

I feel like this is a retarded post and I don't want to diagnose anons but yes, autism has gotten trendy on social media. There's also a chance that you have ADHD or a sensory processing disorder, neither of which is indicative of ASD. Autism is really a perfect storm, and while it's underdiagnosed in women I would also say that ADHD and sensory processing disorders are also overlooked

No. 154927

>>142094
I'm curious, how do you interact with others in a "scripted" way? Other people aren't characters you make up so you can't know their responses unlike in a script.

No. 155035

not op but in my case, i "script" every possible scenario in my head with every possible response i can think of and how would i respond to that, and so on and so forth. it's extremely exhausting and is partially why i hate social interactions unless i'm with one of my neurotypical friends that know how to help me if i need them to.

No. 155279

sometimes i think i’m autistic. i already have adhd, spd, arfid, and a reading and writing disability. why not autism? it would explain a everything. i have always had trouble make friends, i don’t understand how to make small talk, and sometimes i just hate talking and i will refuse to verbalize for literally no reason. i’ve only ever been assessed for the conditions listed above but it’s mostly because they decided to rule out autism since i can work.

No. 155284

>>155279
being able to work doesn't mean you are not in the spectrum. i have asperger's and i'm at work right now kek. working is difficult and exhausting but i have to eat and pay bills. women with asperger's are often high fuctioning and are able to mask better. ask your therapist for an assessment, good luck!

No. 155294

>>155035
Same, I do this at my c*stomer service job lol. I basically just use the same scripts over and over. My go-to phrases are “no problem,” “no worries,” and “you’re all set!/good to go!” I know it’s probably noticeable but I don’t care. One of my male coworkers kept trying to make small talk with me (fml) but I think I gave him the hint because he’s been leaving me alone.

No. 155882

I hate this new wave of zoomers all claiming they have autism and other mental disabilities for uwu woke points. i blame all the articles that call autistic women “misunderstood artists/geniuses”. meanwhile all these social media addicts call themselves autistic even though they’ve never seen a doctor about it bc muh anxiety even though their parents make their appoints for them.

No. 156170

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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little handmaiden? I'll have you know that besides writing one of the most popular book series in modern times, I've been involved in numerous secret raids against pinkpill groomer Discords, and I have been blocked and reported by over 300 pornsick incels. I am trained in the use of facts and logic and I've even been banned from the Mumsnet women's rights subforum. You think you can get away with forwarding that kind of discourse over the Internet? Think again, pickme. As we speak I am contacting the international network of powerful lesbians, and your IP is being traced right now so you better run to your Nigel to protect you from the storm. The storm that wipes out the bourgeois, neoliberal capitalist thing you call feminism. You're fucking history, Everyday Feminism. I can shitpost anywhere, anytime, and I can rebut SJWiki in over seven hundred ways, and that's just off the top of my head. Not only am I extensively read in second-wave philosophy, but I have access to the entire bibliography of Andrea Dworkin and I will deploy it to its full extent to wipe your miserable worldview off the face of the internet. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little virtue-signalling Mel Magazine article was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn tradthot.

No. 156176

>>155882
> call themselves autistic even though they’ve never seen a doctor
I keep seeing examples of women diagnosed with personality disorders then claiming that their doc is wrong and they obviously have autism instead which makes them 'misunderstood'

No. 156323

>>156176
those people are annoying. but I also think women are overdiagnosed with personality disorders when in reality it’s just trauma.

No. 156709

is it true that women with asperger’s/asd are often drawn to art and poetry? i’m almost sure i have asd but i have dyslexia and dysgraphia which makes me hate writing and reading. i’ve been googling for years now but all the information i’ve found make out autistic women to be poetic and artistic and deep thinkers but i’m kind of a dumbass but i’m really good at math. i have really severe ADHD so i’m not sure if some of the symptoms i’m experiencing are because of the adhd or something else.

i’ve just always been really bad at making friends, keeping friends, relating to other people, and responding to social cues. i’m not sure if it’s because i’ve been so bad at it for so long that I accepted a life of isolation or if it’s something else.

No. 156730

>>156709
most shit like this that you read about autism, especially for women, is just flowery coping. western countries tend to overblow the positives of autism for some reason when most of it is just being dumb socially and being permanently naïve. also, the stuff in this OP about it presenting differently in women is basically untrue as well, it's just not seen as issues in women in the same way as men.

No. 156771

I’ve read a bit online about how autism presents in females, and it’s usually something like this: “Are you creative? Do you ever have emotions? Do you like art, literature or nature? Have you ever questioned your place in the world? Have you ever doubted yourself? Are you shy in certain situations? As a child or teenager, did you ever think about your future? If you answered ‘yes’ to any of these, you have autism!”

So, can anyone explain this to me? Aren’t these incredibly widespread statements that describe 95% of people, even successful extroverts?

No. 156777

>>156771
That's why people need to get the actual assessment done and stop announcing they're autistic based on the likes of that

No. 156854

>>156730
The symptoms in men and women are in fact the same, the only difference is that we are conditioned to mask better since young age and most women are able to do so.

No. 156855

sorry samefag, i'm strictly speaking for aspies, idk about other disorders in the spectrum

No. 157177

>>156771
that’s why i’ve been so confused at to whether or not I should get assessed as an adult. all these dumbass website are like “aspie women are gentle, overly creative, and extremely innocent and naive” and i’m like??? but what about stuff like not being able to understand facial expressions and having no friends?

also if autistic women have such a hard time understanding other people’s emotions, body language, and intentions, how would they be good at poetry and creative writing? doesn’t it just contradict itself?

No. 157179

>>157177
I’m diagnosed autistic. I’ve always been very shy and have trouble communicating, but I find that I’m not really that bad at detecting people’s intentions or reading emotions, though I used to be awful in these regards when I was younger. Maybe I’m just deluding/overestimating myself, I don’t know. But I’ve always enjoyed creative writing. I write everything from sci-fi fiction to erotica. I think you need to be diagnosed if you want a real answer. Autism and Asperger’s in particular seem to be very difficult to self-diagnose. Best of luck!

No. 157197

>>157179
>>156771
isnt autism generally about low to no emapathy/sympathy for others, stimming, meltdowns when you cant stim, black and white thinking/low to no critical thinking skills, obsessing over like 1 primary object/subject and nothing else, etcetcetc
if you dont have any of these traits, how are you autistic?

now for my personal spergout; ive went to 2 seperate specialists for mental illness/neurodivergency shit as an adult cuz im a fuckin loser neet shutin with no friends. got 2 seperate diagnosis: the tism or adhd and i just feel like i have neither of these-i.e. ive always understood others emotions and sarcasm even as a child, did use to be addicted to the internet when i was younger hardcore like but now im just here cuz theres nothing better to do, i actually have trouble keeping interests, etc and that made me think that both of these are being overdiagnosed to americans to sell medication like the ADD craze of the early 2000s/late 90s. ironically, psychologists nowadays argue whether add is even real and that everyone has at least 2 symptoms.

No. 157230

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>>157197
I didn't mention I didn't have any of those symptoms. I don't know why you're gatekeeping autism, but let's have a go:

Some of the other ones I had as a child but don't really feel like I'm affected by anymore, but that could be because I literally don't have social interaction in real life which I could use as a basis for that.

No. 157241

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I was diagnosed with ASD as a child but I grew up with abusive parents who rejected that (i.e berating me because they had to repeat the same directions multiple times). I grew feeling I was crazy and was (and still am) deeply suicidal for years. I was always super sensitive to external sounds and I felt I had to struggle a lot harder than others to verbally express myself or keep a conversation flowing. I think I have (not diagnosed) auditory processing disorder.

It took listening to another girl on the ASD spectrum to learn that I had it (I stopped speaking as a child and my parents acted like they didn't know why).

I definitely relate with >>142094. I think at some point you deal with the feelings of alienation and otherness by dissociating yourself from the world. It seems like no matter how much you try and study the right social cues you never overcome this hill required to be like everyone else :(

No. 157244

>>157230
>gatekeeping autism

for people to actually BE autistic, they need to fit those symptoms otherwise they are being misdiagnosed is what i am saying, not that you yourself arent autistic

let me rephrase my second paragraph, psychyitry(?) is used to sell medication and is a booming industry and every couple of years there's a sudden increase of select mental illnesses, like nowadays with bpd, adhd, and autism, and new prescription medicene to shove down those throats

this is why online journalists/twitter users, who're getting paid for this or are bots, use the vaguest or nonapplying terms to describe autism like are you quiet? do you enjoy poetry?? ever feel like you dont belong??? you might just have autism!!!

No. 157386

>>157244
now for my sperg out:
if you think “psychiatry” is such a big scam to sell big pharma then why seek out two separate opinions about your mental state? sounds like a waste of time and money to me, sounds like you got scammed and are butthurt about it.

also there’s a fucking reason why diagnostic criteria states that a person has to have at least a certain minimum of symptoms present before a certain age in multiple settings. if what you’re saying is true and EVERYONE has at least two symptoms of adhd then why isn’t everyone diagnosed with adhd? oh right, it’s because you have to have at least six of nine symptoms in either category, plus they have to present before the age of 12, and have to have an impact in multiple settings. and getting a diagnosis isn’t the be all end all, in order to confirm a diagnosis, you also have to respond positively to treatment. i.e.) you can finally function at the same level as the average person.

I think the “popularity” of the adhd diagnosis of the 00s you’re thinking of is the boom in little boys who weren’t taught how to behave appropriately in public or in classrooms being diagnosed with adhd as toddlers because they’re parents were too tired to properly instil manners into their children because “boys will be boys”.

No. 157405

>>157386
listen

please read slower.

you are being too defensive and reading shit in my comments that aren't there when we seem to be in general agreement about diagnosis.
im going to use more paragraph spaces to try to sound clearer.

A.D.D. is not A.D.H.D. at all.
They are two(2) seperate disorders. A.D.D. was hyper diagnosed in the early 2000s towards unruly school children who were then medicated for it. Psychologists today are in a flux about whether or not A.D.D. even exists.

>if you think “psychiatry” is such a big scam to sell big pharma then why seek out two separate opinions about your mental state? sounds like a waste of time and money to me, sounds like you got scammed and are butthurt about it.


Blatently.
Fucking duh, yes I am butthurt about being misdiagnosed.

Neither of the people who diagnosed me even told me what these disorders really were or what traits of them that I fit into.
In fact, the psychologist who said I had autism talked to me about my traits that did NOT fit the diagnosis, which is whatever, autism is a spectrum. But, at what point does spectrum even begin really? What even IS autism? He sure didnt explain that, so i had to do my own research. Which is why I am here on this anonoymous message board, talking about being misdiagnosed and how I believe it is being overdiagnosed as a ~conspiracy~

As for the reason I went to get my head checked even though I think psychfsjiy is a scam is because mental illness is blantly real and im a fucking basket case who is concerning her family. Im now being tumblr as fuck and self diagnosing myself so i can read psychological help studies to sort myself out.
kthnxbai

No. 157425

>>156854
i definitely don't think we mask it better, i think some of the traits are just considered normal in women but are seen as a problem in men, like being naïve.

No. 157824

>>157405
I would really like to see your sources on how autism is overdiagnosed. seriously, surprise and amaze me with all your big brain knowledge about how autism is being overdiagnosed. how does anyone benefit from that? you probably just went to see some shit doctors who don’t know anything about adhd or autism. specialists exist for a reason. i was misdiagnosed with depression but i’m not all up in arms about how depression is definitely being overdiagnosed as an umbrella solution.

but good luck with diagnosing yourself though, you sound like such an expert. maybe you’ll discover how retarded you are on your way there.

No. 157831

>>157824

I feel like it might be. I got diagnosed as autistic, but how can you consider what I have (mild aspergery) to someone who is non-verbal cripplingly autistic. I think autism has turned into an umbrella term. "neurodivergent" is picking up steam especially in europe and I think it makes way more sense to use that term for asperger-like behavior

No. 159046

>>157831
Yeah, no shit, autism is considered to be a spectrum disorder now. Autism Spectrum Disorder. ASD. Not ADD. ADD is Attention Deficit Disorder, eg. ADHD without Hyperactivity.

Asperger is on the high-functioning end of the ASD scale and "non-verbal cripplingly autistic" is on the low-functioning end. Of course, someone on one end of the scale won't have much in common with someone on the other end.

Sage for literal autism.

No. 269315

how old were you when you were diagnosed? i was 12. I met my best friend like a year later. he was autistic too, it's the most i've ever connected with anyone in my life.(necro)

No. 269320

>>269315
There is an active ASD thread in /ot/.

No. 269344

>>269315
I was also diagnosed when I was 12 :) All of my close friends since then have been autistic. I actually didn't realize this fact until I saw your post lol

my bf isn't diagnosed but I am fairly sure he is on the spectrum and so far have been pretty good at predicting when people are (gaydar but for high functioning autism)



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