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Plastic surgery, lipo, fillers.
There's no real magic behind it ladies.
That is just someone buying into stupid fads designed to make $ off women's insecurities. Back in my time, it was the opposite advice: be in the sun for as much as you can for youthful looks. Here, buy these tanning creams!
Both are nonsense. Like I said, it's 100% genetics.
Also, not doing meth helps.
Ummm, come to think of it, I did meth twice.
But you knowwhatimean.
Are you willfully ignorant or do you seriously believe that sunscreen is nonsense just because we were wrong about tanning in the past (just like a bunch of other things that have been disproved since)? There is plenty of research to backup the fact that a) sun exposure causes photoaging, and b) photoaging makes you age prematurely in a significant way. That's not even getting into the health issues that come with sun damage, avoiding melanoma is not a 'fad'.
Genetics is important but using it as an excuse not to use sunscreen is absurd, and your baseless paranoia is too. Sunscreen isn't even marketed at women in particular, the biggest campaigns have always been for children and the message has always been 'don't get skin cancer!!' not 'don't get wrinkles'.
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nah the sun absolutely damages your skin (though pic related is an extreme and unique case)
I think we can all agree not to do meth though lol
The sun damages your skin just as much as water damages your intestines.
Also, don't breathe so often, oxygen ages you!
Choose between Sun and youth!
C'mon try harder, I'm bored.
Why are you acting like putting on sun screen and maybe wearing a hat makes one a sun-hating, underground-tunnel-system-dweller? Sun is damaging, even in a small amount. But it is also healthy.
Why do you have such a black and white view?
I wear sunscreen but I look way older than I am because I have horrible undereye hollows and my face looks so gaunt for some reason. I’m not underweight so I have no idea what’s causing it. I wonder if there’s a way of gaining fat directly to the face?
Any other farmers have this issue? Maybe I should just save up for filler.
as far as I'm aware it's literally genetic and the only thing you can do to even it out is fillers.
sincerely, fellow life long undereye hollow haver
Plz no one, gave me closed comedones for a year after i STOPPED using it, dont listen to this anon
But sunscreen all the way
Estheticianfag here. Sun damage causes 90% of aging. We have a 67 year old woman who never goes into the sun, and when she does, it's with a giant sunhat and loads of sunscreen. She looks mid-late thirties, she's absolutely gorgeous.
Enjoy your leather face though.
I think some people's skins aren't even suitable for moisturizers at all. That or the moisturizers I got were all shit. My "acne" got worse after I started moisturizing, there are always two or three pimples on my face at any given time now whereas my skin was clear before.
I still moisturize though. A couple of pimples are better than risking aging from dry skin.
>>71481>enjoy your youth
lol, you know the best thing about youth is that you look good, and wanting to keep looking good rather than burning out at 40 isn't an issue, she's asking for tips so she can continue enjoying her looks.
>get a hobby so you're not bored when you're a prune.>implying OP is boring enough to keep the same hobby until she's an old lady
you should get a different hobby than this one.
yeah like why did this thread evolve into some autistic war? Both sides sound so vicious. Just wear you sunscreen/don't wear it and GO
Personally, I do wear the strongest sunscreen in the summer, and at the rest of the year just everyday face creams with some spf. I do think that complete sun avoidance is pretty sad though, I live in a seaside and there's always a lot of girls that look like someone forcefully dragged them to the beach. They wear huge hats, sunglasses, hoodies, and sit under the umbrella while the rest of the family play together in the sun… is it worth it? Maybe for some.
I care about my skin a lot, but also deep down I hate this whole idea that you have to look young as long as possible to feel good about yourself and to avoid people commenting about your wrinkles. And, call me triggered
, people joking about "white women aging like milk". Feminism and empowerment much, huh.
I avoided the sun long before I cared about skin damage from it, for some people that much direct heat is an unpleasant sensation. It might have to do with skin colour, like maybe it's more uncomfortable for pasty people, but I just feel like I'm burning even when I'm not while a lot of people think it's the best feeling ever.
And I agree that it fucking sucks that women aren't allowed to age without being shit on for it, but to me sun damage is like getting fat. It shows a lack of concern for your health rather than the natural aging process. I live in a country with a very, very high rate of skin cancer so it's hard to think of it as just wrinkles and looking old.
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Unfortunately, this. You have to have money to look like that. >>75396
Hydrating and eating properly is the only solution. No amount of tonics, creams or face masks will help you. I see those 1000 steps Korean "skincare" routines and trust me, no amount of slug jelly in your creams will help your skin as much as drinking a lot of water regularly.
I know it doesn't, anon, I'm not old yet and it would be a waste of money to buy an actual eye cream. it's important to keep the area moisturized as a preventative measure. >hunty
please keep your trash AAVE off of this board lmao>>75437
I agree with you here. both skincare products and diet are supplementary to one another.
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>>71407> Or just like be born black I guess. Darkskinned women age so well.
So do Asians.
You don't have to be dark skinned, just don't have too much Caucasian genes maybe? This Chinese woman is 30 too. It's the most extreme case I've seen up to date.
Did you seriously have to necro this thread just to tell us that only ~les whites~ age badly?
Besides, that pic is blurry as hell and 30 is not old…
Well it's true for the most part. I'm half Asian/half White, and all my youthfulness comes from my Asian mother's side. 30 is not old, but OP asked if we knew any good looking 30-something year old women. This is a good looking 30-something woman.>>84306> progeria sufferer
The jealousy is strong with this one.
There's a difference between looking good and looking young, anon.
Also, she's over 30 and wearing a school uniform, yikes
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You're right Anon I'm boiling with jealousy.
She's both. And as I added, she's the most "extreme" case I know of someone looking young for their age in their 30s. If they wanna promote her in a school uniform then, whatever. So many cosplayers over 30 do it anyway.
If this is too young looking for you, then just look at these instead: https://www.dramafever.com/news/20-fabulous-korean-actresses-over-35-/
Lots of examples of good looking and youthful looking women. Sure it's SK, but it's not all plastic. (I would suggest plastic surgery to people who really want to stay young looking though, cause let's be honest, it's the most effective thing out there. Water can't beat that.)>>84309
Unfocused picture, bad posture, bad lightning, no make-up. Now that's some supreme reaching right there.
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Yes she looks young, but also super creepy with those old fashioned dresses, way too long hair look and her "Look how demure and shy I am, like a sm0l preteen!" act, while actually being a succesful businesswomen in her 30s…
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>>84304>You don't have to be dark skinned, just don't have too much Caucasian genes maybe?
It has nothing to do with “genes” except melanin. Pale Asians will age the same as pale white people. Because a huge amount of age is due to sun damage, something black people are more immune to due to the pigment of their skin. Many Asian cultures hold up paleness as a standard of beauty, so they avoid the sun. Some to ridiculous extremes. This leads to some of them appearing to age less. Also do not forget plastic surgery, which is huge in some Asian countries.
Compare this to the tanning crazy that infected many white countries and it’s easy to see why you’d be misled to think Asians age better. It wasn’t until recently that tanning fell out of fashion due to health concerns. Many white woman over 30 in many countries grew up in a sunscreen-less, tanning-bed world.
Of what use is nice and youthful skin, if you're never going to show it anyways…? I'd rather have fun and look shit lol
Also, originally white people hail from Europe and their skin is suited to the weather there, so as long as you don't move south you should be fine.
>Cumulative sun exposure is the most important extrinsic factor in aging skin. >The most significant difference between people of color and Caucasians is the amount of melanin in the skin>The melanin content and melanosomal dispersion pattern is thought to confer protection from accelerated aging induced by ultraviolet (UV) radiation.>Asian and black skin has thicker and more compact dermis than white skin, with the thickness being proportional to the degree of pigmentation.>Asians have a weaker facial skeletal framework, which results in greater gravitational soft-tissue descent of the mid-face, malar fat pad ptosis, and tear trough formation.>Across all Asian populations, skin surface moisture and TEWL generally decreased with increasing age >Those from Seoul, South Korea, and Calicut, India, had the highest sebum readings. Sebum content decreased with age> age-related changes in melanin were detected in both Asian and Caucasian skin…heterogeneity indexes of hemoglobin were significantly higher in Caucasian than Asian skin>In a study comparing age-matched Chinese women to Caucasian-French women, the groups did not differ in the assessment of lifelong sun exposure… although wrinkle onset was delayed by 10 years, pigmented spot intensity was much more prevalent in Chinese women> photoaging occurred several years earlier in women from a city closer to the equator and with more UV exposure> in Asian populations, differences in skincare habits correspond with variations in skin parameters; subjects with the least severe photodamage reported a generally early onset of their skincare habits related to sun exposure, facial cleansing, make-up usage, and sun protection product usage.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4756870/#!po=28.9063
This study is fairly comprehensive. The tl;dr is that there are a variety of factors affecting how different groups age but stay out of the sun and start skincare early for best results. And Asian skin is not superior to white, although it is thicker and darker on average.
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>Cumulative sun exposure is the most important extrinsic factor in aging skin. >mfw i literally live in the desert>mfw use sunscreen and people calls me a weirdo and says it smells bad because no one uses sunscreen since this sunny weather is whats "normal">mfw even using sunscreen i'm still always tanned because with this weather and my latina genes, it's easy as fuck to get tanned (i get paler during the winter but winter doesn't last long here…)>mfw
the sun was a mistake
it's because no one uses it here. like in some asian countries the culture is to use skincare and shit like that, here is the opposite. parents here don't make their kids use sunscreen unless they're going on the beach and shit. and the weather here IS terrible. but people don't know any better and no one cares enough to put on sunscreen every single day even i don't tbh, and i do know better
. so it sticks out :(
It's not misleading. Your forgetting that body type and facial features play a huge part in looking "young".
If it was just about melanin and skin type then all dark skinned women would appear younger looking than e.g. that Chinese woman. They don't.
>>84367>Your forgetting that body type and facial features play a huge part in looking "young".
Did you even read my reply or the study?>>Asians have a weaker facial skeletal framework, which results in greater gravitational soft-tissue descent of the mid-face, malar fat pad ptosis, and tear trough formation.
It took into account facial feaures. And what does “body type” have to do with your face looking younger? You think tall women or women with big breast don’t have young faces? Like what are you even implying?
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How do be vain and vapid for as long as possible?
>>84415>it are those flat features that make them look more "childlike" because children usually have flatter faces.
I don’t disagree. The link I posted includes that. I included that in my post. Facial features, distribution of fat, etc affect how you age. >Same with bodies, if your body looks like that of a teenager in your 30s rather than a typical 30-something curvy body then it will also appear more youthful.
What? The OP image is a fairly curvy woman with wide hips and large breasts. Also the OP was about how to be hot as possible, not how to look like a child. Few women aspire to have childish, or un-womanly, frames. “Womanly” bodies are generally considered hot.
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Claire Danes is 39 and still absolutely stunning. Whatever she’s doing, it’s working. And I’m so so glad she didn’t get a nose job like everyone else in her industry. Even in unphotoshoped candids, she glows
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This was her last year
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Reese Witherspoon is another youthful blonde. In her forties, now.
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Nicole Kidman looked great at 48 but in the last few years she’s had too much work done imo. Attached pic from 2016
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Her body then was also less underweight and more healthy looking. I think being too thin starts to age you, because you look frail and elderly. She looked better immediately after she had her baby than she does normally when she’s very thin. She’s still sim post-baby, just not to such an extreme. Attatched pic is from 2008, when she was forty
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Not really a fan of her look…
I frankly can't stand Heidi, but her body and face are great for a 45-year-old.
The women in the OP might be aging "gracefully", but is trashy otherwise lol>>84435
I agree, her body isn't very "youthful" looking. As a non-black, non-American person I simply can't get the appeal of such disgustingly large butts…
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Well, some of us prefer having the ability to move and especially sit normally over looking "womanly"…
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There are women who can't help the fact their natural body shape isn't an hourglass or a pear. You don't need to be super curvy to look good, in my opinion. Pic related is an older picture of Selena Gomez, I think she looks quite nice.
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To each their own, I think it is, but that's just my opinion.
What a disgusting ass, women can have big butts and hips that look nice but extreme, anime, black market asses look disgusting, unhealthy and like they could fall off at any second>>84436
Someone posted a collage of a bunch of Italian women from 35-65 in a man hating thread, I wish I could still find it, but they all look very young and gorgeous, not sure why everyone is race baiting anyway