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No. 65765
>>65714The vagina will look different for a while after birth, but the whole "ruined vagina" is just nonsense. Mine looks the same as before and feels the same. At first it was more lose in the sense of the opening not being "closed up", but that is to be expected when you push a baby out. It goes back to normal. You just gotta remember the kegels fo strengthen things up again.
C-sections aren't less mother-y, but vaginal births do give a very big feeling of self proudness and accomplishment.
You should always expect your births to be done vaginally. It sounds pretty silly asking the doctor to cut you open only you don't wanna push it out. Would you rather have an ugly scar on your stomach, or a vagina that looks weird at first but goes back to normal?
No. 65835
>>65733This.
Plus a normal delivery should not affect your vagina that much. Yes, accidents can happen but that's the same for any medical event, you shouldn't lose feeling or change too dramatically after a vaginal delivery. C-sections are always going to be tougher (it is surgery, after all) and there will be a longer recovery period.
If this is real you should really talk to your doctor about this because and read around because (and I don't mean this offensively, honestly) you seem really misinformed about this. A c-section is a serious surgery and you shouldn't immediately jump to that if you don't have to, it should be avoided as much as possible.
No. 65877
I don't have kids but I just wanna throw my 2 cents in.
My mom has 5 children and 4 births. Her first child, my half-sister, was delivered vaginally. The other children were all c-sections, because my second oldest sisters are twins and they were in this X position inside my mom, so it was a c-section or baby death. After you have a c-section, you can't deliver naturally for another 10 years, so all the other kids were c-sections.
She always said to me that, if she could, she would have delivered all of her children naturally, as painful as it can be at the time.
She told me that yes, the pain is strong, but when it's done, after about one to two hours, she was functioning normally, whereas on the c-sections she had to stay mostly on bed for like a month or so, and she said it was painful and it can also lead to post-birth depression because it's miserable.
The loose vagina thing is such a myth though. Of course the first couple of days you won't be the same down there, but your body as a whole won't either. Like, you'll still have a post-birth belly and some hormones pumping and the like. Once everything goes back to normal, well… Everything goes back to normal.
I don't plan on having kids, but if I was to, I'd totally chose natural over c-section. Not to mention c-sections are kind of an industry as well, but this a talk for another time…
No. 65922
>>65921Yeah, no. It's a widespread thing doctors are used to do here, not a medical necessity in most case.
There's also a rumor going on about 'le point du mari' where they supposedly purposely stitch you up tighter to the benefit of your husband (hence the name, the husband's stitch). Not sure if it's an urban legend, but I heard and read about it a lot.
No. 65926
>>65921Actually any decent doctor would let you tear instead of cutting. Some doctors get overzealous with the cutting and the incision can end up bigger than the tear.
Just like any OB worth their degree wouldn't offer elective c-sections.
No. 65946
>>65945It really depends where you go, the quality of care can vary dramatically between 'only hospital for 40 miles' and big town ones.
Our new Secretary of Women's Rights said that 75% of women have an episiotomy, doctors say it's bullshit and the problem is that there's no official statistic on this so it's really a cluster fuck of a debate.
No. 65978
>>65922If you e only read about it as a rumour it's retarded to present it as fact. The whole 'extra stitches to tighten her up' is an old crass joke, not a real medical practice.
>>65926No decent doctor would do an elective c-section but I'd refuse a doctor who just allowed a tear. Idk who told you guys that weird rumours like extra stitches and shit are real but the fact that you think doctors are doing it seems to indicate you guys don't know enough obstetric medicine to be giving advice.
No. 65980
>>65978I don't present it as a fact, can you even read? I said I wasn't sure but there's a whole lot of people denouncing it.
And dude, I think you got lost, you thought you were talking to doctors on lolcow or something? Kek.
No. 67794
>>65714Med fag here: vaginal births are better, faster healing process, better bonding with your baby, basically no scars, no risk for another pregnancy (c section scars can lead to a rupture in the uterus)
it's just the way it's supposed to be
so if it's a viable option, go for it
No. 67802
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If I ever got pregnant I'd probably go with vaginal birth due to the fact that it's more natural and all that.
This may seem weird and off-topic, but is anyone else really into the way C-section scars look? For me, that's the only reason why I'd even consider getting a C-section.
No. 69044
>>69042It was a typical second degree tear, which means the muscle itself actually tore a bit. It was stitched up and after 6 weeks it was pretty much good as new. One of my inner labia protrudes more than it used to but that doesn't really bother me. I'm a nurse and I get floated to gyne a lot, we do see postpartum women who didn't heal correctly so it's definitely possitble. I'd recommend getting it checked out by a gynaecologist or your family dr. Besides a small amount of scar tissue there should be no lasting discomfort or sexual impairment.
What exactly is bothering you about it?
No. 69132
>>67963That is very true, your abdomen hurts, REALLY HURTS, for quite awhile. And you have to take care of a newborn, carrying it, nursing it, changing it, etc. I don't know how it was for others, but I also had a reaction to the painkiller they gave me during the C-section (which was an emergency due to fetal distress) and I puked afterwards for HOURS, while waiting for the fucking hosp to get me something to make me stop. Nothing like throwing up way past dry heaves after major abdominal surgery. And trying to nurse on top of it. Ugh. Would strongly recommend vag birth, c-section sucks.
No. 69143
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>giving birth either way
>not adopting and keeping your pusspuss intact while also saving a child from a life of mediocrity
No. 72904
>>72890I know a girl who was awake and unable to move for the entirety of her caesarean and could feel everything including her organs being physically moved. Her story is online, she suffers from ptsd after it now.
I would really get a c section as a last resort, I fear all the complications a lot more than any involved in a vaginal birth.
What are your opinions on medicated versus natural birth? The whole natural birth thing is hella trending now and it seems like some women really get a superiority complex out of it which I don't like even though I would like to experience a natural one myself (haven't had a kid but will soon.)
No. 72909
>>72904You ARE awake and unable to move during a c-section. They give you a spinal block which numbs you from the waist down. And yes, you DO feel them moving your insides around, not painfully but you feel the pressure. Her experience is not unique unless you meant to say she was feeling pain because the spinal didn't work.
I do agree that c-sections should be left as a last resort though. The recovery is so shitty and you don't realize how much you use those muscles until they've been cut open and stapled back together.
No. 72910
>>72906I would 100% get an epidural again. I was terrified at first but I was induced and the pain was excruciating so I finally said fuck it. The anesthesiologist was a super chill dude and talked the whole time through the procedure. He had to stick me twice but I felt nothing. There's so much going on it will be the least of your worries.
The only thing I didn't like is they cath you if you get an epidural since you can't walk to the bathroom. The burning during peeing was the shittiest part of recovery.
No. 74706
>>65714There is a big chance of you being cut down there to help the baby out with a vaginal birth. You can prevent this by birthing squatting (lying down was an old royal thing to prevent babies being swapped and is actually pretty bad). Also do not accept pitocin (Ricki Lake made a documentary about this). In France they do some fancy kegel exercises before and after birth and their cutting rates are much lower, definitely look into that.
In my opinion though, babies are disgusting and not worth ruining your baby over. I'd adopt.
No. 74717
This thread is terrifying.
When will they invent artificial wombs already?
>>69143While I hadn't thought of it much before I've lately been experiencing some really odd feelings towards the idea of bringing new life into the world. There is no getting around how much of an ecological disaster 1st world humans are, and it downright sucks that it is impossible to continue a bloodline without harming the planet. But then secondly, and I say this because I'm prone to depression, no one gets a say in being born :/
No. 74759
>>74717> When will they invent artificial wombs already? This so much! I don't want to go through any of that. Vaginal tearing? Snippety snap of flesh? I get sick by just reading that.
I don't even want to think how women gave birth in the past centuries. No wonder the death rates of women during child birth were so high.
No. 74769
>>74759Before how they did it now, they put women into a "twilight sleep" where they would forget everything. Horrible nightmarish stuff.
It's worth keeping in mind that babies were smaller in the past and they used birthing stools (the correct position to give birth).
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>>74779My mom said similar once. I have endometriosis and she said that if I've handled those cramps I probably won't be too shocked by Labour. I still expect it to be 5000 times worse though