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No. 559341

Previous thread: >>433552

Whether your goal is to become more fit, lose weight, maintain/improve your general health, etc., this thread is for sharing your health journey and supporting others on theirs. Reminder that we're all human, and we all have our ups and downs. Don't blame yourself for failing, and don't get fixated on small missteps. This is a marathon, not a race. Self-sabotage will only make things worse. Try to stay positive and think of the positive steps you've made to get here and keep moving forward! Don't get fixated on numbers, and give yourself adequate rest days and rewards to keep yourself motivated.

No. 559345

Why did you change the description though?

No. 559350

>>559345
the OP was too lengthy/rambling as it contained too much elaboration, no one actually uses it like the OP says to, and something about inviting people to post stats seems off to me as many users here have EDs (not that i'm explicitly against it).

No. 559356

I dont even think its worth it anymore, I am very overweight and have been trying to lose weight but then the realization of loose skin kicked in and now i just dont wanna do anything

any girls here who have lost like a lot of weight? I need tips for loose skin I cant do this

No. 559710

Kek at the hello kitty thread pic op. That’s me lately.

No. 559745

>>559341
Bad thread pic. This isn't "how to become a deathfat general"
The picture should inspire to take care of your health.

No. 559747

What’s the biggest motivating factor that keeps you going on your health journeys, nonnies? What do you do to keep yourself motivated when you want to cheat on your calories/workouts?

For me it’s clothes. There are other things that matter, but honestly? I’m just vain and I like dressing nicely. If I ever feel unmotivated I browse Pinterest, clothing sites, or I go and try on my clothes that are too small right now.

No. 559753

I just need to be more active. Physically and weight wise I'm alright but if my heart beats this fast after going up only 4 flights of stairs I'm going to die soon.

No. 559758

>>559356
Lose weight slowly and steadily to give your skin time to adjust.

No. 559779

>>559747
>What’s the biggest motivating factor that keeps you going on your health journeys, nonnies? What do you do to keep yourself motivated when you want to cheat on your calories/workouts?
Self hatred. Looking in the mirror, I'm seeing things I've never seen before like backrolls. I know it's coupled with age and genetics (even the skinny ones in my family have backrolls at this age..) but damn. I hit a wall after my surgery.

No. 559901

>>559747
I have a job that exposes me to many different kinds of people. It’s sorta mean but I feel motivated to skip dessert or that piece of fried chicken when I meet people who look like shit. Little things like bad skin, bad teeth, poor posture, eating junk food/Starbucks, no intellectually or physically stimulating hobbies. I’m not exactly a pinnacle of health but I stay slim just by denying myself daily garbage. I don’t eat processed sugar anymore and that alone makes such a difference in reduced weight and bloating.

No. 559908

>>559747
remembering the weight i had throughout my life being ruined by medication. i refused to let it just happen.

No. 559910

>>559747
As someone with adhd I struggle with motivation so I’ve kept my gym mat and clothes rolled out permanently on my floor. If the barrier to start is as easy as possible it’s Easier to convince myself to get started. Plus the dopamine and adrenaline I do get from it working out helps regulate my brain (I’m unmedicated)

No. 559918

Today marks my first full year anniversary of working out 5 times a week and changing up my diet. I'm so happy with what I've accomplished so far.
>Starting stats:
>231 pounds, 45% fat (at 5''6)
>Now
>144 pounds, 24% fat

The first month I didn't focus on calories, or specific workouts or anything. I just focused on going in every single day. Even if I was only doing 10 mins of cardio, and like 1 set of lifts, I didn't care, as long as I went into the gym and did it everyday. Once I got into the habit a bit more, I added 1 more work out every 2 weeks, and increased my cardio time by 1-2 minutes. On top of that, because I have some bad OCD concerning counting calories I made it my mission to not count any but just make healthy choices. One of my meals is always a salad, no sweets/sodas of any kind, every meal has to have a big protein component etc. Never had a sweet tooth to begin with so the diet part wasn't bad. I eyeballed most things and just accepted my body's change as it went. I also completely quit alcohol which was huge for me as I drank weekly.

Now I've refined that a lot more, and do 5 different weights/lifts each day depending on my focus (lower or upper body etc) and always include 30 cardio a day min (not more than that since my focus is now hypertrophy). I do progressive loads on all my weight training, and make sure to rest 2 mins per set, 12-16 reps per set, x5. I don't have the time to walk for 20k steps (even with an under table walker unfortunately, what I do for work makes it impossible), but I do everything else I can to make the 'better' choice (walk instead of car etc). I have to say, to those nonas struggling for being consistent and motivated, if you change your mindset to focus on body recomp and just being consistent instead of 'gotta be super thin!' and beating yourself down everyday you're not your goal weight, it makes a huge difference. Not saying it's easy, I still have days where I eat like crap for a day, but I forgive myself and go to gym and do it again next day. I'm at a point now where I feel weird if I DON'T work out and that little voice in my head that always said 'hurr be thin' is mostly gone. I'm just happy that I'm strong and am able to do so much more than I could last year. I still have a lot more to go, but I woke up today and was proud of my body for once in a very long time, and I know if I can, you can as well. Good luck and keep going to all the nonas at it.

No. 559929

i haven't worked out in a week, i'm really far from my twice/week goal

No. 559984

>>559918
Nona, this is so freaking awesome. You inspire me!!

No. 559997

>>559745
Can't we have a bit of a joke sometimes

No. 560008

>>559745
the implication that you believe chubby Hello Kitty is inspiration to become fat is oddly adorable.

No. 560035

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I am 5’3 and my natural weight is about 130. I successfully got down to 112 over the course of about a year of a very strict small-portion size diet, and maintained for around 6 months. Then I lost my job and my motivation to adhere to my strict guidelines and I started eating just a tiny bit more, maybe an extra 200-250 calories a day at most. Within just 3 weeks, I had gained all the way back to 122, eliminating many months of my progress nearly instantly. It really shocked me how fast it happened. Why does it take 6 months to lose, but only a couple weeks of mild cheating to gain it all back? It’s just not fair.

Since then, I’ve been trying to lose back down to my 112 weight, but somehow I am still gaining about 2 pounds a week. I am scared it’s going to go back all the way up to where I was before I even started working so hard to lose it last year. I think my problem is I need to eat more protein to feel fuller, but I am flexitarian and don’t want to eat more meat. I eat so many beans and lentils for protein, but they don’t keep me full like meat does. So what do I do, stop eating meatless meals, or gain back all my weight? I feel so defeated and sad watching almost all my progress disappear in an instant.

No. 560048

>>560035
Are you exercising or just dieting? It's really hard to stay that far below your natural weight if you're not burning lots of calories. I'm a firm proponent of women eating so I don't think you should deny yourself meat which you need for B12 and iron. Do you like fish? I pretty much exclusively eat salmon filets and eggs.

No. 560066

>>560035
In theory you really shouldn't have gained 10 pounds. 250 calories a day more for three weeks should only be enough for about 2 pounds and that's if yo store all of it. Maybe there's something else going on? Are you sure you're counting calories correctly or perhaps there's an underlying medical issues that makes it difficult for you to lose weight?

No. 560068

>>560035
Just eat the meat. If its for ethical purposes, buying local meat is better than vegans options anyway

No. 560069

>>560035
im the same height (well a little under but ill round it up) and im 135-ish lbs and it sucks so bad. i miss being 112 pounds so much but ive struggled to lose weight after i was on zoloft for about half a year. if it makes you feel better i wish i was 122lbs lol

No. 560175

>>560035
because your body wants to cling to as much weight as possible, it's a survival mechanism sadly. once you get past like 24 that's what is going to start happening. you just have to keep restricting. exercise doesn't do shit for weight, and i just exercise for general health. to lose weight at a certain age you just have to consume less. ime your stomach shrinks and gets used to it. i fill up on small meals like a container of yogurt, and if i'm extra hungry some granola in it. if i want to cheat and eat something unhealthy, then that will be my only meal of the day. get some fiber pills too, they stave off hunger, plus fiber is good for you. as far as meat, do you like jerky? turkey jerky in those round little roll things are great.

No. 560271

>>560175
>if i want to cheat and eat something unhealthy, then that will be my only meal of the day.
Nta, but I'm also desperate to lose weight but if I eat a burger and have to starve the entire day Id rather just be a fatass. Come on now. 25 is too old to put up with eating disorder shenanigans. People have jobs.

No. 560285

>>560175
This sounds like a depressing way to live

No. 560300

was uncomfortably full but instinctively ate the boiled egg anyway. i had a slice of toast and another boiled egg, so its not as though i ate a whole lot, but i really would like to practice not feeling like i need to clear my plate, be it a healthy or unhealthy meal. what has worked for you nonnies? im not going to feel guilty over this but i just want to program my brain to feel okay leaving food on the plate and “wasting” money

No. 560319

>>560175
>meal
>a container of yogurt
Take your ana-chan sperging elsewhere.

No. 560396

>>560175
>it's a survival mechanism sadly. once you get past like 24 that's what is going to start happening
Where did you get this idea? This is simply not true. Here's some news: metabolism doesn't slow down with age. There are no such excuses for getting fat anymore.

No. 560444

>>560300
I try to practice serving myself the exact amount of food I need to be sated and not the amount my hungry stomach thinks it can handle. Sure I CAN put away a bunch of rice with my salmon and veggies, but if I cut out the rice then it’s still a complete meal and I’m not hungry anymore but not stuffed either. I also try to cook things that make good leftovers, so if I get full early it doesn’t feel like I’m wasting anything.

No. 560474

>>560271
>>560285
>>560319
it's the meme of "be happy or skinny". it's not for health. i'm not ana i'm just vain and want to be 110 pounds. that's how you lose and keep weight off as you get older, especially if you take certain meds like me.

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>>560474

No. 560531

>>560526
where am i being cranky? everyone else replied really aggressively lol.

No. 560553

Farmers, sorry if this is the wrong thread but has anyone used over the counter diuretics for chronic water bloating before their period? I literally gain 2 inch’s around the waist and it’s really depressing, also physically I feel like shit ect. What are the pros and cons of each one? I always associated the idea of diuretics with EDS and didn’t realize it was actually made for a legit use. I’ve already been drinking lemon juice in the morning and it helps, but the effects are very subtle.

No. 560617

>>560526
800 calories is actually quite a lot. thats like 2 burritos or 2 large slices of a rich cream cake.
i think the 2000 calorie thing is outdated, honestly. it was made for a time when people were more outdoorsy and active. 90% of people these days live very sedentary lives, drive everywhere, sit down and use the pc or phone for hours and hours at a time. when i was working from home, 500 cals a day was enough for me to feel full and not feel faint or hungry. you really dont need more than 800-1000 calories a day imo unless you're going to the gym a lot or walking a ton.
a yogurt or piece of toast for breakfast, a light sandwich, and some grilled protein and veggies is enough to eat everyday, and shouldnt be more than 800 calories.

No. 560626

>>560617
You're just wrong

No. 560628

>>560626
well if you wanna trust the fda who has helped make billions of people fat, then go ahead. obesity will always be 100x more prevalent and dangerous than anorexia.(baiting)

No. 560638

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>>560626
You shouldn’t exceed 1200 a day if your goal is weight loss and this is true for most humans. Also tons of cultures fast and consume way fewer calories than Americans. It’s normal and you don’t have to call people anorexic for this. You’re just mad you can’t lose weight without changing calorie intake(*bones rattling*)

No. 560643

nonas is there any way to induce miscarriages at home? does caffeine and smoking actually work? I can't afford meds(baiting)

No. 560659

>>560638
thank you for this. but japanese people are also a lot shorter and smaller than americans on average too so it makes sense they require less calories.

No. 560674

>>560643
there's a lot of different herbal teas. look for things that induce uterine contractions or menstruation.

No. 560675

>>560638
There is no way most Japanese adults only eat 800 calories a day. 1000 I could believe but 800? Ain’t no way in hell.

No. 560678

>>560675
>A typical traditional Japanese breakfast includes steamed rice (gohan), miso soup, grilled fish, pickled vegetables (tsukemono), fermented soybeans (natto), and a side of seaweed. Many people also enjoy eggs, such as tamagoyaki (rolled omelet) or onsen tamago (soft-boiled egg), and green tea.
All of those foods are zero or low calorie.

>A typical Japanese dinner often includes rice, a soup (like Miso soup), pickles, salad, and various protein and vegetable dishes, according to The Spruce Eats.
This probably wouldnt be more than 300-400 calories.

No. 560683

>>560678
>>560675
That’s a low end but obesity affects 42% of Americans. That’s almost half the country. No other county even comes close aside from Australia and the UK. Call all those other countries anorexic if you want but it’s literally calories in calories out. Sorry.

No. 560689

Don't bother arguing with her it's obvious the prolonged starvation has eaten away at her brain. Let her starve herself like an edgy teenager if that's what she wants.

No. 560698

>>559918
What difference did you find doing cardio daily vs separate cardio / lift days?

No. 560710

>>560689
Overweight(baiting/infighting)

No. 560731

This is not an anorexia thread. Don't come in posting unhealthy tips. Don't respond to baits, please report them and move on.

No. 560753

>>560698
I always did cardio daily ever since I started. I would do my weight training first, with the the first exercise the main focus (For me it's always RDLs or leg press, I started with machines when I first first started lifting until I got my form right). After all my weights I'd do cardio. I know there's a lot of bs out there about how cardio ruins hypertrophy but it's actually good for you as long as you either keep a long but low HR cardio (walking on treadmill for 30 mins+) or a short high HR (running/swimming etc for max 20 mins). The biggest thing I noticed about cardio days on the rare times I skip it is that my mental health is kinda messed for the day (I have anxiety like the whole day), I don't sleep too well that night, and I can't eat as much that day (which might sound like a bonus for CICO but it fucks with my lift BADLY the next day). I really don't like being skinnyfit and my kind of anxiety makes it hard for me to eat when I'm stressed, so cardio to me has mostly been a blessing for mental health than weightloss.

No. 560800

>>560731
Saying 1200 is plenty for weight loss and most countries consume that much or less and aren’t obese like Americans isn’t anorexia. Dumb fatass mod(Baiting infight)

No. 560973

>>560753
Thanks I appreciate you going into details. I was worried about the cardio killing gains from either weights or bodyweight, but since low rate steady state seems to be ok I'll add it on. I kinda get what you mean about the mental aspect, I feel much better after cardio too, even if I didn't push myself very hard.

No. 561025

I blame the threadpic for all the negativity in this thread. The previous one didn't have this shit. Thanks a lot op

No. 561027

have any anons used posture correctors that actually work?

No. 561034

>>561027
Usually poor posture is caused from weak muscles. Walking helps strengthen your muscles in the back. It’s easy to add some more steps into your routine as well. Yoga is good too if you have time. But walking and some basic stretches help a lot more than people realise.

No. 561043

>>561034
i have one of those tiny treadmills i walk on at home and at work i'm walking around all day, but my pelvic tilt is insane. i've been standing all fucked up my whole life. also yoga hurts me, i have EDS so stretching is really hard. i'm not sure how to remind myself to stand better. i'll catch myself standing with my hips tilted and try to push them straighter but i don't notice it regularly

No. 561048

>>561043
>i'm not sure how to remind myself to stand better
You have weak abdominal muscles. You dont have to remind yourself to stand better if you work your abs every day. I recommend ab wheel and barbell workouts, they immediately transform your posture in a matter of days. Also pelvic tilt is associated with trauma stuff so worth looking into that because there could be some internal issue.

No. 561089

>>560678
Does rice really have no calories? I thought it would convert immediately into sugar.

No. 561220

>>561089
nta if you freeze rice it goes through a process called starch retrogradation and basically converts the 'starch' from rice into 'resistant starch'. Resistant starch acts more like fiber when youre digesting it, so while it might have the same carb %, it'll have less DIGESTIBLE carbs so it'll spike your insulin less (and during weightloss you wanna keep your insulin spikes as low as possible). I don't know about rice having no calories though.

No. 561227

I hiked 7.5 miles today. I saw a coyote, a herd of deer, and lots of woodpeckers and turkey vultures. I started at sunrise but it got hot really fast, I got back to my car right as I was starting to get nervous about the heat. Now I'm going to eat a lot of yummy food. What are you doing for your body today??

No. 561478

>>561027

I started doing stomach vacuuming while I’m sitting. Helps to create body awareness

No. 561506

>>561227

We have a park with one of those outdoor gym things, but I don't like walking the main road so I've never bothered to go. But yesterday I forced myself to go for a walk around the block. I'm so lazy and perimenopausal, and my metabolism has basically stalled in the last year. I struggle to motivate myself, even though I have plenty of fun, low-commiment exercise options (I do Nordic walking, hula hooping, and Qigong. Except, most of the time I don't, cos I'm lazy.) I find that I have to set the bar really low otherwise i won't even start.
So my goal was to just go for a stroll after work. But once I was out there, I decided to see if I could get to the outdoor gym via the neighbourhood, and how long it would take. Took about 15 minutes, and using the equipment was kinda fun! Also I enjoyed seeing people's houses and gardens. It gave me a better feel for the area even though we've lived here quite a few years now. So ultimately I ended up getting a 30 minute walk and some mild weight training! But, I'm still feeling bummed it's taken me 4 weeks to lose 3lbs. A few years ago I lost about 35lbs at a steady pace of 1-2lbs a week, through calorie counting… and it's crept up. I am now 14lbs away from my old goal and the weight isn't moving like it did last time. So frustrating. But, I'll keep trying.

No. 561561

>>561089
Rice has calories. All food has calories. You're replying to someone who's either baiting or retarded, or both.
>>560300
Put less food on your plate. Use a smaller plate, or spread the food out so it looks like there's more.
If you fixate on leaving food on your plate you're probably going to fuck up by giving yourself massive portions and leaving half of it and feeling like you did something, when in reality you just overate by hundreds of calories.
Learn to plate up normal portions in a way that makes you feel like you're not depriving yourself of food and you'll be fine.

No. 561603

My airfryer chicken tastes like boiled chicken sometimes, how do I prevent this. It gets worse after I freeze it.

No. 561689

>>561220
I don't think this is true, the article the youtuber links contains a dead link (so much for credible sources), the first article about this study I can find is from 2015, so this might be the study in question: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26693746/

>The results showed that resistant starch contents in control rice, test rice I, and test rice II were 0.64 g/100 g, 1.30 g/100 g, and 1.65 g/100 g, respectively

I'm not a biologist, but how is an increase of 1g of resistant starch between the test rice and the cooled rice supposed to result in a 60% calorie reduction? And how come I've never heard of this amazing technique, when it's been known since 2015?

No. 562019

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I've been a severe anachan and miachan for several years. I've been clean from ED habits for about 8 months now and I feel so much shame when I remember how I normalized the destruction of my body. The damage is done and irreversible. It got me nowhere in the end. Right now I'm at my happiest–I live a balanced life of a rich diet, exercise, and rest. Nonas who are restricting and purging, becoming skelly will never be worth it. I don't mean that you should give up physical activity and healthy foods; educate yourselves on what's right for your age and height. Do what makes your body systems function with greatest efficiency. Don't get affected by shooped twitterfags, skinny influencers, and runway model wannabes. Don't kill your heart and brain. I believe in you nonas and I wish all those affected a safe recovery.

No. 562050

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>>562019
It's so kind of you to think of the other nonas in this thread and look out for us, you have a sweet soul and I hope this life treats you with more grace. I'm happy to hear things are looking up for you, and congratulations for doing so well. You ought to give yourself more credit for chosing the right path and working so hard to get here. In terms of your recovery, what were some of the best parts to you?

No. 562061

>>562019
Congrats, anon. EDs are very difficult to overcome, especially if you had one for a long time. Hope you stay clean and wish you the best.

No. 562288

I don't understand the fights about calories. Some foods are filling, high in protein and low in calories. I had a bulking phase where all I ate was beans, tofu and pickled cabbage with rice lol

No. 562400

I let myself get fat again after a couple months of depression. Need to undo this asap. Back to eating only meat and vegetables I guess.

No. 562468

i don't get what he's doing differently in the second one

No. 562481

>>562468
In the first one he’s shrugging his shoulders to “help” the thrust, notice how his back is sorta rolling onto the bench with each thrust. By moving his back fully off the bench, all the weight is put onto his hips and it properly isolates the exercise.

No. 562576

>>562481
ah ok not helpful because i dont do this but my neck still hurts (my arms are super weak and wouldnt help me if i tried lol)

No. 562585

What ya do if someone gives you unsolicited advice at the gym?

No. 562648

>>562585
if anything respond how you need to work on so-and-so muscle before you can do it "better"

No. 562659

>>562648
And if it’s shit advice

No. 562684

>>562585
Tell them they're a retard and to fuck off

No. 562699

>>562585
This happens to me on a weekly basis at my gym and it's always the worst most annoying moids. I used to say thanks and walk away, but now I just give them the death stare for a prolonged awkward period of time, or say fuck off. 99% of the time it's some annoying scrote trying to flex on you and find an 'in' to talk to you. Don't even bother being 1% not rude back because they auto assume you're flirting back.

No. 562779

>>562699
True, but some girls can be really mean when you do your form differently than usual, too. I don’t think it’s always about hitting on you (though if you say more than just ‘hi’ and ‘bye,’ they’ll obviously try something). Some people at the gym think copying perfect form is more important than the mind-muscle connection, and if your form looks even slightly different from what they’ve seen on TikTok or Instagram, you’ll get stared at/corrected. I hate my long femurs, I always have to adjust the exercises.

No. 563016

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>>558382
Lmfao I read this post and wonder where all those Tumblrinas come from. This is false, a caloric deficit works for everything and everyone.

No. 563327

>>562019
Seconding this. I fucked up my thyroid after years of restriction and exercise addiction. I wish I could go back and just get therapy and develop healthy habits because being in recovery while also having an annoying lifelong medical problem sucks. I wasted so much time obsessing over numbers when I could have been living.
To stay on topic, I wish everyone here good luck with their health journeys but please take care of yourselves mentally as well. It's annoying but the most moderate diet and exercise path that you enjoy will also stick with you the longest.

No. 563768

>>563016
prepare to be banned by fat fuck mods who think 800-1200 calories a day is anorexia(baiting bone rattler)

No. 564035

>>563016
Women's bodies don't use food to power themselves, our bodies run on ♥love♥, to lose weight you have to shed the hate stored inside your fat cells using my juice cleanse! More info in bio ~

No. 564207

>>563768
800-1200 a day is anorexia unless you're very very short. Even on cut phases having 1200 a day isn't sustainable and eventually your body will crash. My cut phases are around 1500~1300 (I swap daily per week), at 5''7 that's a normal healthy amount. I used to do 800-1200 for years because of the 'hurr 1200 to be skinny!' bs I was fed for years and was stuck as a skinnyfat even though I worked out like crazy. You will never gain muscle with that amount of calories even with perfect macros. You should talk to a nutritionist or doctor since you seem to have a weird unhealthy mindset with calories and food. Wish the anas would just leave, they already have their proana thread AND forums.

No. 564213

>>564035
Hi Sage I bought your Love Shed Hate Weightloss juice clense for $50 in your bio and Iv'e been drinking it and it's been working but I'm having trouble keeping the weight off, I checked your HOW TO USE instructions and bought more so Iv'e been drinking 3L of your juice clense a day but i think im putting on water weight, is this normal?. I have'nt had anything other than my normal meals (3 burgers 5 large fries per meal as my DR instructed) but is there a particular juice clense that you reccomend that does'nt keep the water weight on? Thankyou.

No. 564244

>>564213
This is not normal. I advice you purcahse our stomach clenser tablets. You will take for 2 day and your stomach will be cleansed of all bad anergies so you can start a new! Consider meditation.

No. 564517

>>563768
It's not anorexia for me because I'm a womanlet but for taller anons it definitely is. Not everyone is the same as you.

No. 564519

Maybe TMI-adjacent, but what foods are the best for gut health alongside providing nutrition? I've been stocking up on beans first and foremost.

No. 564636

>>563768
You better start saving for some wigs because the hair loss is not gonna be kind to you, just saying

No. 564655

>>559747
I try to eat clean and move my body as much as I can so I don't get sick when I get older. Also, I care about my skin and posture

No. 564744

>>559356
>>559758
I lost weight slowly (1lb a week, sometimes not even that) for a total of 60lbs lost and still ended up with loose skin. It is really sad. At this point I'm skinny enough that you can see my ribs, yet my stomach is still not flat because it has a pooch of loose skin hanging down at the bottom, and I have flabby batwing upper arms.

No. 564862

Has anyone ever tried the inflammatory diet? Some girl at work was raving about it and it did make me feel motivated but you have to give up dairy (in addition to a lot of other stuff) but I just love milk so much. But if I can feel better living life instead of constantly feeling fatigue perhaps it'll be worth it.

No. 565304

>tfw can't deadlift more than50 kg because of the grip
i dont want to buy these gloves that grip for you though, i'm hoping my grip gets better as i push through, i can tell its getting better but so slow…

No. 565337

>>564862
If you're constantly fatigued I'd rule out deficiencies before doing some fad diet.

No. 565344

>>565304
Have you ever used those grip strength squeezer thingies? They help. Our wrists/fingers/ankles tend to lag behind the rest of our muscles.

No. 565349

>>565344
damn that's smart, i can fidget with it while studying

No. 565640

>>564519
kombucha, kimchi, flax seed and the like

No. 565645

>>564519
I love natto (I eat it over rice with a piece of salmon) and I make my protein smoothies with kefir, or plain Greek yogurt if I’m broke. I want to start making kefir at home and have infinite kefir hack.

No. 565691

>>564519
Fermented foods. Full sour pickles, kimchi, kombucha, anything picked really, gochujang. Probiotic supplements are the one supplement I’ve noticed in my own body that is worth the money. Yogurt. Kefir.
>>564207
They can’t help themselves. They’re so hungry and mad that they can’t eat that they just gotta go see if they can make all the non-retarded people angry. They’re welcome to stay, I’m not threatened. Maybethey’ll stop being idiots and hit the gym, stop subsisting on rice cakes and black coffee, and get rid of the smegol build.

No. 565935

Will it hinder my weight loss goals if I don't count any fruit and veggies in my calorie tracker? (Yes including the 'starchy' ones). I feel as though you can't actually gain weight off them? When I was a raw vegan I could barely put on weight, but now I eat differently and I feel that maybe not tracking fruits and veggies won't make much difference unless im wrong. Please school me nonnas

No. 565942

>>565935
I did count starchy foods but other than that I never bothered tracking fruit and veg, and I'd still lose weight according to my guesstimated calculations. I think as long as you have a vague idea of the calories in your head (even if it's just relative calories, like you know bananas have more than berries and potato has more than broccoli), you can easily skip counting fruit and veg by just moderating portions.

My logic is that nutrition/general health is more important than losing weight as fast possible, so even if fruit and veg DID slow my progress- I don't want to know. I don't want to make myself paranoid and avoidant of food that is really good for me.

No. 565952

>>565942
Yeah that makes a lot of sense, I'm sort of on the same boat, especially coming from various ED backgrounds (shake diets etc) I would rather just eat large amounts of fruit and veg when im hungry rather than worry that they will make me gain weight and avoid them entirely.

No. 566773

>>564744
This is why I have given up for now. The loose skin started to show itself. I was very skinny my whole life until about 26. I would have never gained weight if I knew that I could never go back to my natural body. If I lose weight I will not have the same benefits of being skinny like I used to. I will also not be able to eat what I want. If I had never gained weight in the first place I would have at least had the perk of looking good without clothes on to weigh out the con of not being able to enjoy eating. It is all very depressing. I wish people would talk about loose skin more often it would save so many people from such a terrible fate. I feel like I look better heavier without stretched out skin so I am just doomed to stay overweight. Why make so much sacrifice for something that will make me look worse?

No. 566823

>>566773
>Why make so much sacrifice for something that will make me look worse?
To avoid many illnesses and an early death

>I would have never gained weight if I knew that I could never go back to my natural body.
>I wish people would talk about loose skin more often it would save so many people from such a terrible fate.

This is common knowledge. Do you live under a rock?

No. 566896

>>566773
You realize eventually you are going to grow old and have loose wrinkly skin no matter what? Looks are temporary, but your health habits follow you forever. Do you want to be a wrinkly 60 year old who struggles to get out of a chair, or a wrinkly 60 year old with a strong skeleton and cardiovascular system? The right person isn’t going to care what you look like naked anyway. Don’t give up just for vanity reasons, your body is so much more than that.

No. 566919

>>566773
I had a baby and breastfed for two years. I still hit the gym every day for her, and for aesthetics, have saggy tits and loose skin (50 lbs down) and still think I look fucking fantastic. I get why you’re lamenting your weight gain, my aunt lost about 150-ish? Maybe more? Lbs through diet and exercise alone, has kept it off 10+ years and just got a tummy tuck for her loose skin at 50. People might be like “why do that because aesthetically you’re 50” but she fucking earned it. Tummy tucks are always an option, or you can just roll with the belly wrinkle too, but this idea like you shouldn’t bother with your health because you won’t be at your aesthetic ideal is retarded. Don’t you want to feel good? Be able to pick heavy stuff up? Go on a hike without being winded? Wake up naturally with no ache? None of that has aesthetic appeal but your life satisfaction goes way up when you can actually enjoy it.

No. 566945

>>566919
You forget all the illnesses people get just from being obese. Cancer, diabetes, hypertension, hormonal issues, absolutely ruined joints that need multiple surgeries later in life, ruined arteries, weak heart, depression

No. 567100

I want to get skinnier/toned/gain muscle (currently 58kg, was 50kg last year) but it's so demotivating starting to cycle and then feeling your legs about to combust about 10 minutes in. I've been trying to eat more and eat protein lately but I still get up, cycle, and feel exhausted whilst all my friends are fine. I think my muscles have atrophied or some shit because I can't even flex them. Sure I'd like to be skinnier but I need to build muscle, I'm way too weak.

Do any of you have any diet/exercise advice for building muscle? Like I said I have like 0 muscle mass, total weakling, so I'm starting from square 1.

No. 567136

>>567100
Try wearing weight on your body, like a weighted vest (keep it light), backpack or those wrist and ankle weights and walk around for an hour or two every day. You should be doing much better with exercise after a month. Pilates is a good option for you, too. It's going to hurt and burn but that's necessary for the muscle to develop.

No. 567172

>>567100
Look up body weight exercises. Find YouTube videos with “low impact” in the title and follow along. When I was starting from square zero I would walk on the treadmill at a slight incline for an hour. Boring as fuck, but my legs got insanely toned just from 3 miles every day, and putting it at an incline reduces impact on knees and builds muscle. Practice standing on one leg and raising your knee as high as possible. Practice yoga for flexibility. Get some 3lb weights from Target for your arms. You got this!

No. 567181

I have been lifting consistently for a little bit now and I've recently hit the stage where my gains are being commented on/noticed by coworkers, friends, and family. My boyfriend has expressed admiration here and there but I can tell that he's worried I'm getting too muscular. If I'm wearing a tank top he says things like "maybe skip arm day this week haha" and it's all in a playful tone, but I genuinely think he's starting to get bothered by this. The other day I flexed at him and he looked horrified and said to go easy on the gym. I want to doubt that it's a matter of losing attraction, as I'm not even bordering masculine, but I can't help but feel like he's finding me less attractive. He keeps asking me how big I want to get and I just keep telling him that the natty limit for women isn't very big at all, but this just made him more worried. Unfortunately it feels like lately most of the comments he makes on my body are expressing concern about me getting too muscular. I am starting to think I gaslit myself with fitness content thinking everyone likes muscle mommies but at this point I am addicted to lifting and don't plan on slowing down.

No. 567186

>>567181
He feels emasculated by your strength, progress, and discipline. Dump him, idc how cute he is. It’s not like you’re a dehydrated fake tan bodybuilder, how can a man possibly lose attraction to his partner getting fit. Insane. Genuinely deranged.

No. 567193

>>567181
He probably feels threatened in his fragile masculinity lol.

No. 567329

I don't have access to heavier weights at home so I'm stuck with 10lb dumbbells, how can I progress? Arms get pushup (cant get pullup bars) progressions but what can I do for legs and abs? I was thinking a backpack with old books for progressing in squats and lunges, and weighted planks, is there anything else that nonas do?

No. 567530

>>567100
You need to build your strength up slowly and steadily, you'll get there! Strength training helps, as does a lot of stretching.
>>567181
Mock him for his frail noodle arms, rub it in his face that you did all this with no help, point out that he could beat you in gains with his natural testosterone levels and yet he hasn't, then dump him for not being supportive of your epic gains. You're doing amazing and I know you like weights but your loser bf is a weight you definitely need to drop.
>>567329
Wash old milk bottles and fill with water or sand to make weights. How heavy they are obviously depends on the materials you have to hand though.

No. 567541

>>567181
Kek is this faggot afraid you'll beat him up or something?

No. 567585

>>567181
>I am addicted to lifting and don't plan on slowing down
Based. Don't let your moid neg you and discourage you from what you enjoy. He definitely sounds emasculated and jealous of how you're working on yourself and getting all these compliments. Drop his ass.

No. 567670

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So proud of myself for all the walking I did in May. My clothes feel baggy now. Another month and I will attain my weight goal finally.

No. 568462

Does anyone have any fitness youtubers you guys enjoy? I've started working out from home as the gym scares me, and so far I've loved yoga with Adriene for her vibes but I haven't found a non yoga youtuber with similar style of content. I despise the music and the whole pep talk/coach thing most HIIT/lifting youtubers seem to have, i need something more chill lol.

No. 568774

Anyone else have to deal with an autoimmune disorder while trying to get fit? My meds give me a false sense of security so its so easy to overdo it and flare myself up like hell. Last week I did forty minutes on the elliptical for two days and sixty minutes for one of them, and my ankle feels like its going to fall off. I just want to make up for all these years spent being so sedentary!

No. 568878

>>568774
>elliptical
doesn't really give you much, better walk or cycle

No. 568893

>>567670
Wow good job! I love walking, such an underrated form of exercise.

I've started cutting down on what I eat again. I try not to go full rexic but I'm also trying to learn to sit with the discomfort of being a little bit hungry so my brain learns that's fine and not an emergency. I know I ate healthy food, so I know I'm not starving. Sure I could have eaten more but this should be enough for now. I actually ate a whole McD burger and fries for dinner last night (my dad was visiting and bought us the food) yet today at my daily weigh in I was a tiny bit less than yesterday! Usually a big meal like that will be enough to set the weight back up for the day (until I poop it out lol) so I was very pleasantly surprised. I hope I can keep my healthier diet up, my biggest enemy is enablers around me (such as my dad bringing me the burger).

>>568774
How about swimming? And like nona said, walking is also good exercise!

No. 569089

>>568878
I got bunions on the fucking elliptical of all things.

No. 569161

>>561506
> perimenopausal
OT but how did you know? What were your signs?

No. 569181

>>568774
Set a timer before you start and stop when its up, better to gradually increase than hurting yourself and having to go back to square one. Slow and steady anon

No. 569487

is hopelessness a normal feeling when you've spent years being depressed and are just now getting into being healthy? it's only been a few weeks since i started working out and keeping my calories low and i have like 30-40 pounds i'm tryna lose on top of gathering some physical strength. part of me is worried i'll never see any changes despite just getting started.

No. 569499

>>569487
It's normal, but don't let yourself drown in it. One of the most challenging aspects of getting into exercise is developing a positive relationship with your body. You have to exercise because you want improved cardiovascular health, go up the stairs without being winded, longer lifespan, prevent osteoporosis, being able to eat whatever you want, etc. The pounds will come but it's not about "changes" and "results" as much as long term discipline, consistency, and a determination to love your body and what it is physically capable of.

No. 569736

>>569487
the good thing is that when you change your habits for the better the weight comes off without that even being the whole focus. just focus on consistency, that's the magic pill.

No. 569897

I really miss going to the gym but I just don't have the time. I can't buy home weights because I primarily powerlift. Has anybody managed to find a clever way to worm gym into a busy life?

No. 569912

I've been on a calorie deficit for two months around 1600-1700 and I don't feel hungry anymore. Is this normal?

No. 569915

>>569912
Your stomach shrunk so you feel less hungry and you are now used to eat less. Same reason obese people get bypass surgery.

No. 569917

My lovely nonnas, do you have any tips for losing weight as a short woman? I was doing so well until late last year when some traumatic things happened. I need many tips and baps.

No. 569969

>>569917
You have to eat like a mouse. I’m 5’3 and i can’t eat more than 1400 calories a day to stay at 110 ish pounds. I started eating just a couple hundred more because I didn’t think it would make that much of a difference, and now I’m up to 125. I’ve learned there is absolutely no wiggle room for ANY extra when you’re short.

No. 569973

Nonnas, I started losing weight just from doing long sessions of breathwork every day, it's so weird cuz I have just been laying down in bed playing games most of the time because of burnout. I also have a more normalized appetite and stress eating has been reduced significantly, I have cravings for healthier food and don't really want to eat sweets anymore and started drinking a lot more water which isn't something I normally did before and I had to force myself. I've been doing 2 hours of different breathwork vids for a week and now went down to 1 hour daily. I guess stress really does prevent you from losing weight

No. 570004

>>567670
Well done! Which app is this nonna?

No. 570147

>>570004
It's Samsung Health. I only use it to track my steps and cycle. I don't know if the other features are good, but for what I use it for, I like it.

No. 570166

>>569897
I've started to wake up a couple of hours earlier to fit in the gym. But going later in the evening might work better.

No. 570170

>>569973
Which videos? I've been so stressed out lately, if you've been finding them helpful for that I'd like to gove them a shot.

No. 570197

>>570166
I've kind of planned to go a couple times a week but only do 2-3 exercises. Can this actually be effective? Eg. Only Squats and hip thrusts one day, only bench and shoulder press another day. I can't go mornings because I'm too busy at night to sleep if I follow that route unfortunately.

No. 570280

>>569917
Get on semaglutide. I'm 5'1 and lost 60 lbs with no effort.

No. 570352

>>570170
I start the day with vidrel and then did one of his 1 hour long ones
https://youtu.be/1ncXO8Dj1qU

atm my favorite is this one
https://youtu.be/sJ3YzmDiIzA
It's a bit shorter so it's convenient and the music is beautiful.

No. 570354

>>570197
NTA but yes, even 15 minutes of regular exercise will bring results if you do it for a while. You don't have to spend endless hours at the gym. The persistent effort pays off.

No. 570586

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>>560035
I'm late on this, but have you tried tofu? The calorie to protein ratio is better and the fat in it will also help keep you full. It's gross and watery if you don't prepare it right, but if you freeze the block, thaw it, then press the water out, the texture is very good. You can cook it in chunks like this recipe:https://cookieandkate.com/how-to-make-crispy-baked-tofu/ (I skip the oil) or you can grate it with a cheese grater and bake it like in this recipe https://thesimplesprinkle.com/shredded-tofu-recipe/ for more of a hamburger crumble texture. Swap out the seasonings in the recipe for ones that make sense for your dish.

Greek yogurt and eggs have also been huge for me for hitting protein goals, if you eat those.

No. 570752

nonnies, what more can i be doing to keep to a good middle ground? i have dealt with both sides of eating issues since i was a child (eating 3000 calories a day into morbid obesity to cope with sexual abuse, rapidly losing and gaining as a teen, then having a short stint of severe restriction for a year) i feel this last year i have finally reached a good middle ground, i am happier, but it isn’t perfect and i am still chunky at 5’2 130 lbs, and i struggle to dip below there at this point.

80% of the time i eat 900-1300 calories, prioritizing protein and fresh food. eggs, tofu, fruit veg homemade stuff no meat or dairy etc. i indulge in sugar in some form daily, i will admit. i have 3-4 indulgent days a month of 1600-1700 calories due to lack of discipline or my period.

i stopped exercising recently due to a health issue and am VERY slowly getting back into it. i am only exercising 1-2x a week with some light pilates and walking 2k-10k steps daily. i used to do 2 hours of exercise a day but burnt out, so would like to make it more realistic as i increase.

i guess what i am asking, is where can i improve? the restriction phase i had got me to 110, i felt very confident but i abused nicotine, kratom, and weed and overexercised. i just have no desire to make myself retarded with drugs again, but i’ll admit i sometimes feel guilty for not trying “harder,” and of course it felt nice to not eat much. these days i feel very comfortable, not starving nor stuffed. but i do wonder if i should still aim to eat less, to allow myself to feel okay with the hunger? i feel so ridiculously lost. i’d love to lose 20 lbs again.

No. 570770

>>570752
Sounds like you've experienced a lot of stress in your life. Maybe instead of focusing on losing weight try working on regulating your nervous system. Very often due to trauma and stress the body does its best to hold on to fat and also makes it difficult to control how much you eat etc. Maybe try doing those breathworks that were posted earlier or some other nervous system regulation exercises that are to your liking.

No. 570775

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>>560035
Going off the suggestion here >>570586
Seitan is another option for more protein, if you don't like tofu. I could never stand tofu, I tried my best. Don't try it if you're sensitive to gluten, because it's basically pure gluten. You can make it yourself with vital wheat gluten "flour". Lots of recipes for it. I especially liked this one https://itdoesnttastelikechicken.com/vegan-seitan-steak/ and all the other seitain recipes on her website.

No. 571276

Does anyone else use a fitness watch here? I've been going on the step master and my heart rate has been consistently no higher than 93 bpm even though I pant and feel my heart rate go very high. My thinking is that my arms aren't moving so not much blood is pumping through there? If I had to guess, at least 130/140 bpm+

Also, in terms of steps I only get about 3k on the step master for an hour. Is it worth still walking 7k to get the 10k minimum health requirement?

No. 571390

>>570752
I am the same way, I always used 80/20. But also don't punish yourself for eating a sweet or something . Also unless it's for moral/religious/allergy reasons I highly suggest adding meat and dairy back in your diet. Eating lean meats and seafood can help you maintain muscle while losing fat, and gaining muscle and maintaining it helps you drop fat a lot easier

No. 572840

Most fit person here probably weighs 100 kg and can deadlift 40 kg(bait)

No. 572842

>>567181
Bait. Doesn’t work like that. Even female bodybuilders offseason can’t be told by normies that they’re fit. This is bait or you’re on some shit. Or they are just being nice and confuse weight loss with muscles. Either way a noob like you doesn’t need to worry about looking like a man lmfao. Don’t believe their lies.

No. 572870

Hello nonnas,

I used to post here a long while ago as I was starting strength training, but I got sick four times over the past six months and lost a good portion of my gains (my squat PR was like 160 lbs).

I also noticed I am mildly chonky, probably from sitting on my ass from being sick.

Should I cut out strength-training altogether and stick to cardio until I look less fat while I cut, or should I still be strength-training while incorporating cardio?

One person I know said doing strength-training while cutting will give me a “rounded physique,” which I don’t quite know what they mean. I feel like I’ll lose my gains on a cut and doing all-cardio. I prefer strength training to cardio as well and would like to be able to get strong enough to see abs/muscle definition.

Current deficit is 400-500 calories/70-80% bodyweight in protein/185 lbs/5’10”

Thanks nonnas!

No. 572871

>>571276
Are you wearing it too loose perhaps? Also keep in mind that there’s a delay between what you see on the watch and your actual hr. It’s not an instantaneous reading.
Either way, it’s never going to be 100% accurate unfortunately, but that does sound like an issue with the watch and not you actually being a reptile kek. I had very low blood oxygen measurements on mine and it was always telling me I’m basically dead until I tightened the strap.

No. 572877

>>572870
You’re doing it wrong by asking here. There’s a reason why heavy ass lifters on social media after their weight loss journey still look shit. How much you can squat really doesn’t matter, is the squat doing you or are you doing the squat?
How much you can lift =/= muscles
You should get your newbie gains, train for hypertrophy, walk 10k steps, do 15 mins of stairmasters after your training two-three days. I know you won’t follow my advice but do whatever. And don’t forget your protein.

No. 572887

>>569487
Hopelessness is normal, your brain is trained to think that way after years of depression. It's not an indicator of your actual results. You need to retrain your brain to look at reality objectively instead of through a lens of abject misery.
You have quite a bit of weight to shed and that does take time! Extreme weight loss is around 2.2lbs a week- you should aim for, or expect, something around 0.5 to 1lb a week. It's going to take you the best part of a year or longer to lose the weight, so accept that and pace yourself. Build good habits, work on your mental health, slowly adjust your lifestyle to be healthier and in line with what you need to maintain your new lower weight.
Even a weight loss of 10lbs makes a huge difference, even if it's only 1/4-1/3 of what you need to lose in total. Keep at it nonna.
>>572870
To be honest any exercise you do will help you lose weight and get back in shape. Do 10k steps a day, slowly work back up to what you used to be able to lift, and you'll be fine.

No. 572896

>>572871
It’s pretty tight and I move and shift it around to try and get an accurate reading. Once it read 140 bpm and I felt that was more accurate than 88 bpm kek.

That’s too bad. I really wanted to measure my fitness level by age, max VO2 and sleep. At least I know how many steps I’m getting and it’s nice to be reminded to get off my ass and do a couple of jumping jacks throughout the day.

No. 572907

Anyone here trying to work out with a fucked up back? Just wanted to know what kind of exercises you all do which don't make your back worse. I hate that I cannot lift

No. 572981

>>572907
Hello nonna, I dealt with a fucked-up back for a while due to very bad anterior pelvic tilt and spent 6 months in PT to fix it.

Idk if this is below your skill level, but here’s some stuff my PT made me do:
>face pulls (on exercise ball)
>seated row (also on exercise ball)
>resistance band side-step
>monster walk
>squats on an overturned bosu ball
>bodyweight squats
>hip/hip flexor stretches
>dead bugs
>extremely low-weight deadlifts
>ankle strap side-kicks

You should ideally get evaluated by an ortho cause IDK if you have the same problems as me, but I hope this helps!

No. 573045

>>572981
NTA but how much does it cost? I'm neet with no health insurance and my neck is fucked up. I got the worst case of tech neck you'll ever see.

No. 573102

>>573045
I am honestly not sure without insurance. I paid $25 copay, but probably is a lot more if you don’t have insurance.

No. 573495

This is too far. It's time to stop being fat. I've lost a kg a week in the past, I can do it again. 20 weeks, 15 kg even suffices. I will use this thread to check in/be accountable. It's time to track. I cannot be fat anymore.

No. 573579

>>573495
I believe in you, nonna!

No. 573793

>>572907
Strengthen your back and core.
Use the machines
Learn to lift properly
Deadlift light weights and learn to lift with your legs.
Get a PT to learn to lift properly and you might get a nice booty.

No. 573952

Doing squats and walking up stairs since I don't have equipment. These weak fat chicken legs I got are pathetic.

No. 574038

A couple years ago i lost 15 kgs with calorie deficit and mild cardio but then i went on vacation and ate whatever i wanted and decided to do intuitive eating afterwards and so i gained it all back by the start of this year. I got back on my routine and lost 5 kgs but it has been stagnant since march now. I cant get below 68 kgs even though i'm doing the exact same thing i did when i dropped down to 60. It really pisses me off and i really don't want to drop my calories even further down since i have a physically demanding job and naturally low blood pressure that makes me prone to fainting.

No. 574288

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>>572842
Women can absolutely look fit enough to be complimented on their muscularity without being big, especially if they are lean. 99% of women don't have any delt or bicep definition to begin with, so it goes noticed by anyone who trains. I have a coworker who works out and has definition like pic rel. Anyone who knows anything about weight training can tell she lifts and I've heard normies compliment her physique before.

No. 574300

>>574288
Ughhhhhh she is so beautiful I might tear up kek

No. 574348

>>574038
Try changing your diet to more whole foods and protein, but eating the same amount of calories.

No. 574832

Turns out I have PCOS wtf (or at least polycystic ovaries without it being a full on syndrome). I didn't expect it because I'm not hairy and I've always had a normal BMI, but I've never been quite as thin as I want and I've always struggled with binging/a massive sweet tooth so maybe it's not that shocking.

I'm starting metformin and although it's not a weight loss drug I've heard it lowers your sugar cravings and reduces food noise, I'm praying that's the case. I guess I've gotta do a low carb low sugar diet either way but I'm gonna need all the help I can get resisting dessert.

No. 574921

>>574832
Could you maybe share how you got your PCOS diagnosis? Since you didn't have the common symptoms, what made the doctor look into possible PCOS diagnosis?

No. 574932

>>574921
I probably shouldn't have said I have PCOS, I was panicking kek. After doing more googling I just have 'PCO' which is different.

Anyway I had an ultrasound (for unrelated reasons) which showed polycystic ovaries ie a super high number of follicles. That's one criteria for PCOS but you need to also have hyperandrogenism and/or irregular periods. I was on BC for so long up until recently that I have no clue how regular my periods are, so I guess it could be either.

No. 575872

>>573495
Started today with eggs and vegetables then went to the gym. Felt good after eating real food but I am so weak now. My session sucked so hard but I will just have to push through.

No. 575884

>>575872
As a woman you need to be eating every 2 hours otherwise your body goes into starvation mode. Eat something lest you become an ana in mind and soul.

No. 575888

>>575884
Uh huh

No. 576204

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My breasts are very saggy and when I wear anything they just sit lower than they should be and look terrible/ridiculous. I don't really mind how they look but they feel uncomfortable and I want to feel my clothes fits right my body. I also have to wear bras or something to keep them in the place even in hot weather. Is there any exercise that can make them firm or at least not to jiggle around? I still want to diy solutions until I get double mastectomy

No. 576207

>>576204
You need to strengthen your chest and upper back muscles. Lifting weights will help with this. Women tend to have weak pecs because a lot of us wear underwire bras that remove carry weight from our chest. My breasts actually sagged less after I stopped wearing wire bras and switched to loose bralettes for work and braless for errands. But also, remember that breasts being affected by gravity is COMPLETELY NORMAL and the concept of “saggy” and “perky” are completely arbitrary patriarchal concepts that are predicated on a pedophilic society. Let em swang sista

No. 576210

>>576207
I don't wear wired bras. I don't wear bras at home and I've been at home for the last 1-2 years. My breasts are saggier when I don't wear them but either way they're saggy to the point it makes me uncomfortable. Wish they were smaller so they would'nt sag and make my job easier. It has nothing to do with patriarchy or whatever, I feel uncomfortable by them moving around. I thought about binding but I don't know how to do that and they aren't found in my country. Plus the long term effects. I want to be titless lol

No. 576261

>>576204
Use kinesiology tape

No. 576285

>>576204
Wow anon we look the exact same. I saw someone in the breast thread say she does a lot of close grip pushups and assisted pullups and hers stay up. I'd guess close grip bench press/flys/normal and incline bench press should all help too? Good luck. I'm sorry about the discomfort.

No. 576363

>>575884
first time hearing about this. Do you have more links/resources I could look into?

No. 576374

>>576363
Retard if women had to eat so frequently it would be widespread knowledge by now. We aren't frail little fairies who can't survive if we don't constantly stock up on little snackies. There's a reason you haven't heard this before.

No. 576654

>>576363
It's obvious sarcasm.

No. 577342

sage for not being super interesting but i lost 8 pounds! super happy. i miss the taste of sweets though (im on an intermittent fasting/no carb/no sugar diet)

No. 577883

>>577342
Great work nona! How have you felt with intermittent fasting? I wanna start but I have a history of fainting when I’ve eaten poorly

No. 578715

I’m 127 lbs, just 2 more lbs away from my goal weight!
>>577342
Congrats! Stay strong and don’t give into the cravings.

No. 578761

>>574288
Still bait/delusional and irl she doesn’t look that masculine, it’s mostly angles. Put her in a dress and she’d look like a pinup model.And that chick trained for years it’s certainly not some delusional gym noob after 6 months unless she’d have amazing genetics but most of them are normies on social media showing off.

No. 578776

>>578761
Your opinion isn't universal

No. 578911

Is 400 calories too much of a deficit if I strength train 4-5x a week? I want to build muscle but also remove the fat on my body.

No. 578912

>>578911
Don't worry about fat. That's going to leave as long as you're working out. If your goal is to build muscle then you need to be eating a shitload of protein and overall a healthy amount of calories. It's possible to build muscle in a deficit but honestly if you're hungry then you're tired, and if you're tired then you don't want to work out, and if you don't want to work out then the habit falls apart. Better to get the exercise routine deeply ingrained first before fretting about macros.

No. 579219

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>>578912
I've been working out on-and-off for the better part of a year-and-a-half, and I believe I overbulked a bit. I lost a bit of strength due to health issues where I had to stop working out for several months, so my figure that looked slim-ish at 190 lbs looks like slight chonk at 184 lbs.

I don't have trouble maintaining a deficit, sticking to a workout routine, or eating a shitton of protein, but I don't know if it's counter-intuitive for body-building/tone to go on a deficit if it means I'm going to lose strength. I do notice that I have a more difficult time recovering after a workout when I'm not eating my maintenance calories, if anything else.

I can see the slightest, slightest, slightest echoes of my abs amid the belly fat, and it stings my ass so hard that I can't uncover them.

I feel like I'm missing something here in my goal, and I feel really stupid that I can't figure out what it is.

No. 579980

>>576204
i also have tits like this. they're so ugly and masculine look like they belong to a troon on 5 months hrt. i want them to be gone, i would cut them myself if i could; waste of fucking cells

No. 580044

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>>579980
Maybe you mean tuberous breasts, that's a congenital deformity. In some countries you can get refunded corrective surgery. There is a boob thread on here tho

No. 580050

>>579980
Man, ok.

No. 580054

Every nonny who is afraid of weight lifting should watch this video and see how much this adorable grandma is lifting

No. 580072

>>580044
Didnt know my breasts were/considered deformed. Maybe i can get surgery to remove them then

No. 580162

>>580044
I hope I never have a daughter so I don't give her my deformed breasts. I had surgery on mine and I wish I could have small breasts instead, but the implant had to be big enough to shape them properly.

No. 580281

>>580162
Nta but I realized how much pcos ruined me. Deformed breasts, deformed nipples, deformed face, acne, uneven skin color, deep voice, hairy everywhere more than most males, male pattern fat distribution, inverted triangle body, thinning hair… It feels like I should've been born as a male and makes me think if I am one tbh

No. 580301

>>580162
it's not genetic. All of my older and same gen relatives had or have normally devloped bodies (some of them even have perfect bodies). They were also allowed to have normal sexual lives and development while I wasn't. This could have caused an epigenetic activation from traumatic upbringing where the daughter's sexuality is strongly repressed by the environment and treated like something abnormal.

No. 580337

>>560069
I am also on Zoloft and I gained so much weight after never struggling with it and being naturally thin my whole life. I've been dieting and working out but it feels like my metabolism is just fucked now. Did you have any success?

No. 580341

>>580301
Genuinely what are you talking about

No. 580435

I've been chickenmaxxing and it's been really nice being able to feel full and getting all the protein I need. I accidentally overcooked the chicken so it did turn out dry and a little chewy, but I think that helped me even more with feeling full quickly. I'm trying to eat around 1600-1800 calories a day and incorporating chicken has been helping a LOT. Topping a lot of savory meals with pico de gallo too has been good with keeping calories low and satisfying my hunger.

No. 580481

>>580337
Nta but SSRIs made me put on 20lbs and I went right back to my natural weight after I stopped taking them. Idk what it does to our hormones but it was impossible for me to be skinny on antidepressants. Hopefully you find a solution or reach a point where you either don’t need them anymore

No. 580497

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believing in the omniscience of false gods who don't even know about vitamin D deficiency can harm you and your children

No. 580507

Nonnas, how long do I need to stay on a cut for before moving back into a bulk. Never tried cutting with serious conviction before, but I want to actually get some results.

>>580435
Chicken is great and based. Lately I've been making turkey burger patties which are a little higher in calories, but I'm full and happy.

No. 580510

>>580497
Hey, I'm the resident prophet of vitamin D around these parts. Stop stealing my shtick.

No. 580535

>>580481
different anon but even wellbutrin, one of the antidepressants supposedly good for weight, made me blow up to nearly 140 lbs and i've always been 110-120 my entire life. once i got off it i immediately lost the weight just eating as i normally do.

No. 580553

>>580497
Shit nonny I’ve been vitamin D deficient for years trying to achieve pasty pale skin… made me depressed and anxious but I did it for the ~beauty standards~
is it too late for me to turn my health around?

No. 580586

>>580553
Why not use skin lightening products?

No. 580649

>>580553
if you're D deficient during pregnancy you're fucking up your child irreversibly. As an adult, your health and especially mood will start improving immediately when you stop being deficient.

Just wear a hat or something to keep direct sunlight out of your face, you can absorb vit d via your arms, feet, neck, whatever.
>>580586
some people don't like bathing in mystery chemicals that fuck up your hormones and god knows what else

No. 580654

>>580586
Im the type of Asian that if I stay indoors, I get pale translucent skin but if I walk outside I tan immediately. I used to wear parasol and long sleeve clothing in the summer.
>>580649
I’ve been walking outside everyday for an hour, is that enough or should I take vitamin D supplements? And no im not pregnant yet but I want to be in the future. Fun fact: I was on birth control pills and while vitamin D deficient my blood pressure was hypertensive. Idk if it was the excess estrogen from the pills or my dumbass staying indoors 24/7.

No. 580661

It's so hard to get myself in the gym when I'm constantly worried I'm doing everything wrong. I've been going for literal years but I still feel so sick in my stomach the entire time I'm in the building. I think I just want to quit.

No. 580699

>>580654
Take supplements, you need more than maintenance to undo the deficiency. Vitamin D is water soluble so it's pretty safe to supplement, you just pee excess out.

No. 580703

>>580699
Not true, vitamin D is not water soluble but it's still safe to take 1000-2000 IU daily and is what my doctor recommended to me.

No. 580730

>>580661
Why not get an appointment with a personal trainer or but equipment to exercise at home

No. 580731

Nonas I'm upset and I need advice. I've been in a 500 calorie deficit for about three months now (used multiple TDEE calculators and they put me at 1800 for a deficit). I eat the same things pretty much every day so even when I miss a day or two of tracking it's not a huge risk. I'm 5'6", 175 lbs, and I've been lifting weights for about 2.5 years now. I work out 3-5 times a week (more like 6/week now that I'm free for the summer) and I do incline walking for cardio for 20-30 minutes. Can anyone tell me why tf I gained 5 lbs in the last month? I started on 50 mg of sertraline (zoloft) if that's relevant (and got weighed at the doctor's). Same routine, same calories. If it's the meds I'll lose my shit. I'm losing my shit regardless, it seems like I gained a lot more weight over the winter than I thought and I'm basically at the same size I was last summer with no improvement in physique. What can I do? I know at the very least I need to invest in a scale and track from week to week.

No. 580734

>>580731
Ssris cause weight changes in many individuals so thats the likely cause.

No. 580785

>>580481
>>580535
I've been on effexor and lexapro before and didn't have this issue at all. Only now with Zoloft. I reduced my calorie intake drastically but I haven't lost a single pound yet. I'm reading about people needing a year or more to get back to normal after quitting Zoloft and that sounds so dire. I'm already decreasing my dosage but what if I can't even lose it after quitting?

No. 580807

>>580785
>>580734
Jesus, now I think I should quit this stuff. I can ask the doctor about prozac instead.

No. 580811

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>>580807
>>580785
>>580734
Gonna be crunchy for a sec and point out that scientists still don’t really know how antidepressants work. It might be a slightly educated guess, but it’s still a guess because we know so little about the brain. Have you guys read that study indicating that SSRIs can cause the brain to produce less organic serotonin over time? It’s unsettling stuff. I’ve been on a million different antidepressants and still have lingering side effects from some. These drugs are unfortunately a complete crapshoot, and when you factor in lab testing only being done on male mice, the effects of antidepressants (and pharms in general) on the female body are often a big question mark. Obviously I’m not gonna tell anyone to stop taking something if it improves their quality of life, but sometimes antidepressants cause more problems than they fix.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3547473/

No. 580820

>>580811
Don’t scare me like this nonna… I wanna go off my meds agaiiin

No. 580822

>>580820
Sorry for being a doomer, it’s a topic I’m pretty passionate about after being mistreated by doctors for so long. If it gives you any hope I’ve been rawdogging life for the past year and I’m honestly doing great. I fixed my vitamin deficiencies which was huge, and I cut out processed sugar, alcohol, and frequently going to restaurants. I cook simple meals at home, eat lots of fish and eggs, and I still smoke weed and drink tons of coffee. My PMDD sneaks up on me every month but it’s been more manageable and I feel like I can confidently say I’m no longer depressed in my day to day life. I never thought I would ever live to this age, let alone be happy at this age. I do think it’s possible to thrive without antidepressants but it’s been hard work ngl.

No. 580825

>>580811
I don't mind you being crunchy. I feel the same as you most of the time and I'd like to never be on medication again, but I've never figured out how to make it work long term. I always hit a point about a year or two in where I go off the deep end. Of course then I never stay on the meds for long either. If you have any advice about vitamins I'll take it. I'm tired of living like this and I want to try something different.

No. 580828

>>580825
Vitamins are gonna be different for everyone, you need to get bloodwork done for that. For me it was low iron, B12, and vitamin D. I’ve switched to liquid supplements and seem to get way more results from them, especially with the iron.

No. 580837

>>580825
>>580828
Fixing my iron and vitamin D deficiencies was a game changer for my mental health. I went from a nervous crying mess barely able to get out of bed (sometimes not at all) to functioning fairly normally just from taking iron for a couple of months. Things don't send me into a downwards spiral every couple of months like they used to. That wasn't a coincidence because I had been struggling with my mental health since my teens and I had been reffered to see a psychologist (that I didn't go to) just a couple of months before I discovered I had deficiencies by accident. I don't know why they don't test for common deficiencies first thing when they suspect someone has depression.

No. 580848

>>580828
How long should you lay off supplements before doing blood work? Been taking magnesium and vitamin D and don’t want to skew the results. I just want to see how well my body is absorbing my diet.

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>>580731
>take antidepressant
>it makes you fat which makes you more depressive
kek
this is why I stay away from medication as much as possible.

If you started lifting weights, you may simply have built some muscle mass.

>invest in a scale
maybe get one of these impedance scales if you have the money

No. 580861

>>580837
>I don't know why they don't test for common deficiencies first thing when they suspect someone has depression.
my guess is that selling psychologist sessions and SSRI's is more profitable than saying "get some sunlight and eat a piece of liver now and then"

No. 580870

>>580861
No I don't think so, insurance companies are uptight and will always push the cheapest option. I was denied iron infusions for that reason.

No. 580874

>>580731
>Can anyone tell me why tf I gained 5 lbs in the last month?
if you've been sexually active, do a pregnancy test.

No. 580881

>>580860
>this is why I stay away from medication as much as possible.
Nta I'm taking an antidepressant and haven't had any weight fluctuations at all or negative side effects for that matter. It depends on the medication and you and how your body reacts to the medication, there are no rules

No. 580883

>>580881
>or negative side effects for that matter
I got unfortunate news for you, some bad side effects you get from antidepressants are insidious and gradual, so the person taking the medication doesn't notice them until they go off the medication. Imagine some effect increasing unnoticed by 0.5% every day. After 200 days you have that side effect in full effect without noticing. This happens to most antidepressant users. Also antidepressants are generally not supposed to be used for long periods of time and stop having any effect compared to placebo groups after one year, but you will still experience withdrawal symptoms when you stop taking them. It's a massive scam because personal lifestyle changes can't be exploited for money.


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