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No. 216476

How do you live your life doing casual female separatism?
Examples
>going to female-only gyms or going to gyms' female-only hours
>asking for female doctors when going to the doctor's office
>reading feminist authors (Andrea Dworkin is an example)
>watching female-centric movies and shows
>supporting the work of female authors
>going to your local coffee shop owned by a woman
>doing female charity work
>not doing things for the male gaze or male validation
Etc. These examples aren't the only ones, you can share your own or give advice/resources to others.

>How can one ease herself into separatism?

>Is there something you struggle with when it comes to separatism?
>Can society achieve separatism or at least become prominently female?

No. 216480

Is that really separatism, though? A lot of women already do this to some extent(requesting female doctors, going to womens gyms, etc).

No. 216481

>>216476
I do all of these things you mentioned whenever I can. I prefer to cultivate female connections and focus my energy on women instead of seething about men, outside of when acknowledging political oppression is relevant. A big part of improving my life has been cutting off male friends and focusing on making female friends who are not male partnered. It's really easy to do and makes the world a better place for me.

I'll be visiting some lands in late 2022 if all goes according to plan, if not then it'll be 2023. Either way I'm seriously considering giving life at one of them a real try so the first step is visiting. Unfortunately they appear to be dying out, like all lesbian/female spaces are.

What I struggle with is people demanding explanations. Other lesbians never ask for one beyond curiosity about how I implement separatism into my life but everyone else seems to be super offended by the notion of "excluding men who are people too". Ha ha, no they're not.

I don't think it's really possible for us to achieve true separatism that doesn't involve fucking off to the woods. Civilized areas are too male-dominated for that to ever work out. I don't know, if something catastrophic happened to male chromosomes or our society as we know it, there could be an opportunity to seize a chunk of urban land for ourselves or w.e. but that's hoping for a crisis with many other outcomes all more likely than us achieving liberation. It's not something to actually hope for.

I'm working on a fiction project involving a separatist planet. It's slow going since there's a lot of work to be done in the medium I chose but I'm enjoying the process. It puts intent behind my entire life, in a way. I want this for us, even if it's through little things like requesting a female family doctor or escaping to a fictional society, or visiting a land every now and then. Something.

No. 216486

I dont mix much in general. I moved to a quieter area a few years back because it's more suited to me like that. One thing that annoys me is how I know I'm not one to approach others… I'm pretty set like that. In the 3 years of being here it's always men who've randomly started convos with me or shown an interest. It's a small town and I'm obviously not a local. Men want to know all about me and where I'm from and why I came here.. Great lol

I hate that I have a good idea of why it's always men. There's a slight imbalance here where young women seem to move away to the city whereas I did the opposite so i feel like im essentially being scouted. I don't even know if I'm getting ot for the thread but I've just always hated how men come to me despite me internally screaming that I don't want male interaction. Living here has only highlighted that.

I'm not that young or naive so I'm not really looking for advice. I know what I need to do but I find it hard putting myself out there. When you have issues socialising you can always rely on men to still bug you. I'm starved of female interaction.

No. 216488

Great thread anon! ily

No. 216493

>>216480
A lot of women might not realise it but yes, it forms part of concious separatism too

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>>216476
Reminder that separatism is a journey and everyone can be in any stage whenever. Full separatism is neat but even doing any action that involves women, women-only activities and women communities is a good step. Just saying in case anyone wants to try this out and is scared to go full in. Minimal actions lead to greater actions.

No. 216496

Let's make threads like this in /2X/! The board needs more traffic anyway.
for anons that don't know how to get there, just type /2X in the url

No. 216502

>>216496
We can keep this one in here since it is casual though

No. 216505

Wow this is the most radfem-adjacent thread I've seen allowed here. Nice topic.
>>216481
>focus my energy on women instead of seething about men
This was a big one for me when I was first confronting internalized misogyny. I was spending a lot of time in women's spaces but almost all of them were focused on man bashing so my life was still centered on men even though I was surrounded by women. To be fair this was an important step because it reinforced the answer to "Are men really that bad?" was "Yes, yes they are" but at some point you've pinkpilled yourself enough and need to move on with life. Anger can absolutely be useful but it's also crippling if you hang onto it for too long. Just drop men from consideration entirely. I've been so much calmer and more at peace since I've done this. It's on ongoing effort as I do still have some casual male "friends" I stay in touch with since they've shown they can be useful in the past. I just keep them at arm's length, never touch on romance/immediately drop them if they bring it up, and otherwise focus all my energies on deepening female relationships.

>Is there something you struggle with when it comes to separatism?

I think the most difficult thing about separatism is the fact that many women are unconsciously self loathing and misogynist themselves. I used to be. It's tough sometimes to cultivate female friendships when you know they may drop you immediately after getting a boyfriend, be brainwashed into acting as an apologist for scrotes and troons, or not value your time/input. But I just remind myself that dealing with those potential issues is still infinitely better than dealing with the problems that come with males who may stalk/harass/rape/kill you or otherwise be utterly useless in improving your life and outlook in the long term.

No. 216511

I'm trying to maintain an extreme separatist lifestyle, hopefully women's land can last because one day I would like to move there
>mostly hang out in the female only area of the gym I go to
>spend my free time reading feminist authors
>make sure the media I consume doesn't degrade women (hard)
>dress in sweat pants and t-shirts
I'm trying to make my wardrobe a bit more exciting so I've been looking into 90's tomboy fashion. My wardrobe is literal shades of grey and black
>ignoring or intentionally making it hard for the men around me to talk to me
>volunteering at women's shelters
>talking to more older women around me
older women are so much fun to talk to, since they have experienced the 2nd wave feminist movement I like to hear their perspectives
>things I struggle with
having my friends understand why, they aren't interested in any radfem conversations, they're terminally libfem, and I'm a crypto irl. I hate it when they say things like "bitch" and "cunt" and try to prove how they're KwEeR/fRuItY.
>can society achieve separatism or at least become prominently female?
Right now we are on a low wave for feminism, it'll take a few years for women to start bringing women's rights up at the front again. But when Major western countries start caring, their influence can be very obvious. So we just have to wait and keep on pushing.

No. 216515

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1. Not consuming any media by men/handmaidens. Not consuming any mainstream media, too, which have outright or subliminal misogynistic messages. Catchy songs are usually misognyistic so I just listen to the insturmental version of those. Read books by women, doesn't have to be about feminism. Watch based female youtubers. Only consume women's art.

2. If you MUST interact with men (like close male family, males at work), they usually try to get a rise out of you for entertainment/to sabotage you. You have to resist it, let it slide off you and bring the discussion back to work (confronting directly just wastes more of your time, in my experience). Meditation, deep breathing, and not bothering to engage with men/handmaidens online helps train you for these situations. Once men/handmaidens realize they won't be getting energy from you, they will stop. If they keep doing it though be professional and document it all and show it to a trusted higher up woman. Ask for the man to be reprimined by another man if it's possible, because scrotes only listen to eachother. It's also important to not show any mental illness, instability, traumas, troubles, or vulnerability. As far as they're concerned, your life, mind, and body is perfect and at total peace. They are predators, and if don't act like prey they will usually stop. Treat them like screeching monkeys, not even worthy of entertaining their ideas or opinions.

No. 216516

>>216511
>make sure the media I consume doesn't degrade women (hard)
Could you list the female positive media you've found?

No. 216517

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>>216511
>I hate it when they say things like "bitch" and "cunt" and try to prove how they're KwEeR/fRuItY.

Honestly when people say shit like that around me I gently but firmly express that I'm uncomfortable with slurs being "reclaimed" around me and I specifically don't want to be referred to as queer unless we're talking about a group and it's mixed identities for ease of expression. Queer instead of LGB(T) is the norm so fighting them on it is fruitless when it comes to the usage of the word for those aside from yourself but at least you can stop them from categorizing you that way. I introduce myself as a lesbian and express I don't want to be referred to as queer, as my identity is specific. Nobody has challenged me on it thus far, if you center that these are slurs and not everyone is comfortable with reclaiming, it seems that's enough for most people as a reason. You can also say that it took a long time to accept your sexual orientation and that head-on declaration of it is "validating" for you. It's something they'll have to bow to, as per their ideology. YMMV of course but it may work for you too, especially if these people are friends or lefties. Tbh if someone that identifies as a feminist has no words except gendered insults to levy at women I'll straight up get into "unpacking her internalized misogyny" and out-discourse them anyway. Not letting that shit fly.

>>216515
Something related to office conduct for me is to stop adding exclamation marks and "if that makes sense" etc. to my statements. I keep my prose concise, rational, direct. No need to let them in emotionally or make yourself small. Just exist as you are and let them hit the walls around you.

No. 216533

>>216517
For business/office topic, I read about this lady who made up a male secretary email, so all customers would go through "him"… And all of a sudden male customers & coworkers were being super cooperative and friendly! It was genius.

No. 216545

i would only go to local business that are owned by women, but its hard to find. theres jist one ice cream store near me that I know is woman owned but thats it.

No. 216580

Speaking to girls in a foreign language the men around us don't understand.

No. 216588

>>216580
I think you’d have to pick a rare language that’s simultaneously expressive and beautiful but easy enough to pick up. I would either nominate Bulgarian for being ancient, beautiful, and allegedly easier than Russian, Portuguese for the beauty and familiar script, or Korean, which isn’t rare enough but lots of girls seem to be Koreaboos these days. Or we would make one up.

No. 216594

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Which separatist actions would you like to do but haven't gone around them yet? I have a few, can share later

No. 216597

>>216588
Interesting input! Until now I have simply employed a language that both of us were able to speak but the men weren't, if possible. I am a polyglot and tend to be around a lot of international students, which is why it has been possible for me to speak to girls in their native language without the males around us being able to understand.

No. 216599

>>216588
iirc there's a conlang that was made to be female-centred or something.
laadan i think? i mean feasibly noones gonna learn a conlang just to talk to their friends in peace but it's a wonderful idea

No. 216630

>>216580
This was the purpose of pig latin in grade school kek. Would still work too if your friend is fluent and its not hard to pick up… and no one else would be able to understand (if you go fast) because who tf speaks pig latin as an adult. now you may sound like a sped… but it would work.

No. 216631

>>216533
Idk if you saw this somewhere else, but I posted on lolcow months ago about doing this. I have a Shopify store and as I have a visibly nonwhite name, I decided to just make a fake white man who is in charge of customer service. No picture or anything but just a generic whiteguy name like Matt. I've changed it several times as well, it's not like anyone notices. Kind of like a digital tulpa… When I make mistakes on orders/shipping I just blame Matt kek

No. 216632

>>216580
Reminds me of the “cuti” dialect, only the women in my family would use it, it’s easy to catch up if you have more than two braincells, but it’s confusing to the average male.

No. 216675

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>>216588
apparently, gay people used 'polari' to speak with one another in the 19th century since it was illegal to be gay, so there have been subcultures that have made up a pseudo-language in order to communicate. Though I'm unsure if it would be possible to get away with it in the modern day, especially with the internet, and considering that women make 50% of the population

No. 216676

>>216476
I thought i'd be better in female only spaces
and that women would know better but so many of them have internalized mysoginy or are bitches due to the competition mindset and being brainwashed into hating other women that at this point i'm considering getting back with spaces shared with men.
I went to a girl only school which was a dream of mine at first then it quickly turned sour, same for my workplace.

No. 216729

>>216599
Laádan was an interesting internet rabbit hole, and as language shapes how we think, a female oriented one would be perfect !
>>216597
Off topic but how did you become a polyglot? You sound pretty cool hehe

No. 216824

Just wanna say that I fucking love going to a female-only gym, and I highly encourage anyone out there lucky enough to live near one to check it out. I feel like I see a lot of women say they worry it'd be full of ultra-hot cardio girls who make mean comments, but this is really not my experience – there's women of all ages, all bodies, who do all kinds of stuff. The other day I was in there with a white-haired 80+ woman on the elliptical and the cool ripped butch trainer, who was teaching a newbie how to use the weights. It's made me feel so much more free to try new things, like strength training and dance, and actually really helped me think of exercise in terms of how I love to move and not just being skinny.

No. 216864

Has anyone thought about cutting off ties with family members who are married to men? My sister says she doesn't want me visiting because I am so rude to her son/husband kek

No. 216865

>>216864
I've considered cutting contact with my male family members, but not the female ones.

No. 216866

>>216594
Things I have done:
>Not wear makeup. I can't lie, I do like the look of some makeup, and I would still paint my face sometimes in the future, maybe. Never for a moid though, it has to be a very special occasion.
>Not wear restrictive or skimpy clothes.
>Not wear a bra, even when I go out.
>Not use social media.
>Not making new friends with males or pickmes/handmaidens.

Things I would like to do
>Donate to the local girls-only orphanage. I just don't have enough money yet. My mom would donate a lot of groceries to them though.
>Donate menstrual pads and toilet paper to the local women shelters.
>Buy only from local women businesses. This is very hard, idk where to even start
>Unfriending my male friend.

No. 216915

>>216516
ah sorry for not responding anon!
A lot of the female positive media in general are romance stories so here's my curated collection of shitty taste
>Disney Movies
Moana, Encanto, Frozen, Maleficent, Brave
>lesbian movies/tv shows
gentleman jack, portrait of a lady on fire, thelma
>cartoon saloon
wolf walkers and the breadwinner
>straight romance movies
little women, hidden figures (sorta), a hidden life, a league of their own
>????
Precious, silence of the lambs
the movie night thread(s) in ot have some good movies so you can dig through them to find some you're interested in.

No. 216933

I need big advice. I am currently in a romantic relationship with a male but everyday I grow more and more disgusted with the male population, I don't know if I should leave him and only date women for the rest of my life. He is not a bad person and we have been together for 3 years, we even thought about buying a house together. How can I balance hating males while at the same time being in a relationship with one?

No. 216935

>>216933
Your moid isn't the exception to the male sex as a whole. If you can stand spending your life with one, you don't hate them like you think you do.

No. 216938

>>216933
Don't be with one? Is this a larp or something. If you stay together just don't start on about how you though he was ~special~ after he gets comfy and reveals his Y chromosome genetic defects.

No. 216940

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i haven't had male friends in years. every single one was either:

>wanting to date me and only interacted to me in hopes someday we would date/fuck

>stunted af: manchild, casually sexist, moody and immature

the only man whose friendship i ever enjoyed was gay, though he could also be a bit annoyingly egotistical, but overall he was a lovely and cool person. but now he's twitter-famous so we don't really talk.

overall i find men to be a waste of time to befriend. i'm bisexual also and considering never dating a man again. modern men are highly disappointing in every aspect. pornsick, entitled, unwilling to take initiative in anything. the only males i spend any time with are fictional. all my female friends are wonderful and fulfilling in every way.

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>>216505
anon i'm happy for you but i really want to highlight this:

>I was spending a lot of time in women's spaces but almost all of them were focused on man bashing so my life was still centered on men even though I was surrounded by women.


be aware of this, anons. do not devote too much energy to hating men. not because men aren't worthy of hate, but because you do not need to cloud your mind with thoughts of moid depravity and how disgusting they are. it's not healthy to obsess over how revolting men are. i've been there… it did nothing for me.

apathy toward men is the healthiest approach ime. do not give them your time even in thoughts.

No. 216945

>>216933
Anon don't compromise your own happiness for some ideology. I also advocate for separatism and am a manhater, but doing things for an ideology can be dangerous. Put your happiness first

No. 216947

>>216935
>If you can stand spending your life with one, you don't hate them like you think you do.
You don't have to completely hate men to be pro-sepparatism. I'm not saying this in a "SOME MEN ARE GOOD" sense. I'm saying it in the "yes, even if some men can be good to you, sepparatism is better". Even if you don't completely hate men, opting for sepparatism is the right thing. This is the sole reason a lot of women don't join the movement, they think just because some men are good to them we shouldn't be sepparated. But no, sepparatism is basic survival for women. Even if you don't hate your dad/brother/bf/etc.

No. 216949

>>216945
thank you nonny, you are very kind. I'll focus on my happiness while at the same doing my best to support women in any way I can.

No. 216950

>>216933
In your case, just remember he's still a moid and moids are unpredictable. Even if he isn't a bad person, he could be immature, or do something you won't approve of. I have been there.
Dating men means you have to compromise because they're fragile and unless you accomodate their random bullshit you won't be happy together. It's like a cup that is slowly filled with small droplets of water. You decide when the glass is full and you've had enough. Plus some of the most annoying ones are passive aggresive as fuck.

I say, if you are happy the way you are, and think he won't be awful to you- well, first, reality check, all men are awful as a class. But if you still love him blindly and you both are happy together… then good luck I guess. I really wish you good luck. Because it seems like more often than not these stories end up wrong. Some don't though. But I hope the happiness lasts, and you don't burn out.
If you ever are unhappy with him or burn out, get rid of him. Start dating women or befriend more women and go full separatism. You don't have to wisthand years and years with him being unhappy. It's okay to be young and in love, it's okay to believe you have a future with him. But just remember he's still a moid.

No. 216951

>>216950
Thank you for your concern nonny, I'll take it into consideration. We aren't married or anything so I don't think it would be a big deal to leave him if necessary.

No. 216959

>>216515
This is so well said literally gonna print it out and hang it on my desk

No. 216975

>>216515
>catchy songs are usually misogynistic

Cut to the feeling by carly rae jepsen doesn't channel anything but hope and happiness for me. Not really sensing this vibe there.

No. 216997

>>216824
I see how men in the streets ogle women in tights, how are they gonna be any different just because they're inside a gym? Joining a female-only gym is gonna be my 2022 goal!

No. 217013

>>216997
tbh it's really not that bad, normal men who are not incels seem to make a decent effort to focus on themselves. it's actually really surprising. a female gym would be cool though.

No. 217014

It's weird that I'm making big strides in my life towards separatism in some very important areas like for example how my wife and I are currently hashing out plans with an architect for the plot of land I own and intend to turn into a homestead that's as self-sufficient as I can get it to be, looking out for properties I can hopefully turn into a womans shelter, teaching my three sisters the importance of womens rights and trying to nip any internalised misogyny I see in them in the bud, only socialising with women, using only female doctors, etc. But then I feel guilty because the media I consume is stereotypically "male". I love gangster films, cops and robbers films, same thing goes for video games and naturally there's barely a woman to be found in these pieces of media that isn't a mistreated wife, crude stereotype or fuel for a gratuitous sex scene. But it's gotten to the point where I seldom bring it up to radfems/rad leaning women because there's this competitive undercurrent where a lot would rather shame you as a bad feminist than offer genuine advice. I love the life I'm living and the life I'm trying to set up for my wife, my sisters and any daughters I may have but thinking about it for longer than 10 minutes gives me a damn headache.

No. 217018

>>217014
Loosen up. The movies you watch or the games you play aren't going to erase the good you've done for the women around you. Sit back and enjoy.

No. 217076

>>217018
But wouldn't she be supporting and upholding horrible and lazy views of women through her money?

No. 217093

>>217076
Almost any money you ever spend in this world is lining the pockets of a moid, at least movies and video games can be pirated.

Either way nobody can be, or is obligated to be, ideologically pure. We can only do our best in a world that makes it hard enough to begin with without other radfems nitpicking our efforts. Anon is already doing tonnes, way more than most. Let her enjoy her gangster movies

No. 217098

>>217093
fair enough

No. 217111

>>217014
You still have a lot to work on. Consuming moid media is awful for you. Please work on yourself nonny

No. 217112

>>216864
You should definitely cut off pickme family members. I did and it's been so good for my mental health.

No. 217114

>>217014
>I seldom bring it up to radfems/rad leaning women because there's this competitive undercurrent where a lot would rather shame you as a bad feminist than offer genuine advice

That's sad, wtf

No. 217117

Has anyone here been able to convince irl friends/family to abort their future male fetuses? If anyone has any tips on how to do so I would love to hear them.

No. 217120

>>217117
sage your shitty bait moid

No. 217125

>>217117
not to concerntroll but that's a fucked up thing to do if you consider yourself pro-choice, lmao

No. 217138

>>217111
Can you rec any female centered stuff?
>>217117
Same larper as the "I put abortives in female familys meal"?

No. 217142

>>217117
I don't care if others are giving you shit, males shouldn't be born

No. 217152

I almost exclusively watch female youtubers (I don't really watch tv for the most part) and that wasn't even intentional

No. 217153

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Men have done nothing but cause problems in my life and the lives of the women around me. THey're either pornsick, controlling, abusive, manipulative, or short. I don't talk to any men outside of my immediate family. My only voncern is missing out on cuddles in the future.
I'm 19 years old and I've never had a boyfriend or anything so I don't know if I'm really missing out on anything spectacular, yet it still seems nice to come home to cuddles. Older (straight) nonas, do you snuggle with your friends or something? It just doesn't seem worth it to get a relationship with a broken moid over that…

No. 217162

>>217125
No it's not

No. 217163

>>217153
Absolutely do not get a boyfriend under any circumstances. He will certainly abuse and steal from you

No. 217166

>>217153
100% it's not worth it unless you're the type that's able to suspend disbelief and retard yourself into bliss that does not exist. it's so much risk for very little reward. they are very rarely emotionally developed enough to be of some use to you psychologically, and the little that they do know about emotions is used against you

No. 217263

>>217153
Girls are better at cuddling, men have very weird shaped bodies and is uncomfortable snuggling with them. I would recommend a gf or invest in deep secure friendship with a woman your age.

No. 217310

Thank you, wise nonas. I'll heed your advice and spend my 20s advancing my career, learning how to cook delicious new foods, and cuddling with biological women.
>>217166
Where do men learn how to manipulate women? Even ugly losers are adept at making women pity them and it's very odd. Is it innate?

No. 217509

my main attempt at "soft separatism" is i'm not close to men in my personal life. i will not seek out males to be close friends with, unless i know for a fact that he has same/similar values and is not an incel, otherwise i wouldn't be anything more than friendly acquaintances. i'm not het so romantic relationships with men aren't something i need to worry about, but they're still in my life, at a distance.

No. 217514

>>217310
nta but they start with their moms and sisters, it's easy to manipulate when women are brainwashed into coddling all men 24/7

No. 217528

>>217514
True women’s spirits are broken down very young. I come from a very patriarchal retarded family so they donf bother to hide their attempts to gaslight and sabotage me and i find similar yet more subtle techniques used by normie everyday males

No. 217544

For those who are curious there was a commune based on female separatism in Australia called the Amazon Acres

There is a good podcast on in it here

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-30/history-of-amazon-acres-nsw-community-female-only/11095974

A great examples of the kinds of success and failures you can expect with things like this.

No. 217545

i dont befriend men and dont communicate with them outside of necessity, i dont see them as people at all anymore lol

No. 217571

>>217544
Clearly the problem was the vegetarianism

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>>217571
Didn't read the article yet but I don't blame them for not wanting to exploit animals. The way animals are abused and reduced to their bodies mirrors the exploitation of women. I'm not saying that animals are more important then women, but patriarchal, capitalist world has been built on suffering of weaker beings. A lot of feminists made that point, so I'm not the one who came up with this.
>>217544
Umoja is still going strong AFAIK. Wish the Wikipedia article was longer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umoja,_Kenya

No. 217679

>>217592
That’s a pretty interesting community, and provides some good insight into how difficult these kinds of projects are - even with their standards being literal mud hut tier, they still ultimately had to work with and rely on a hostile and external systems.

>In 2005, there were 30 women and 50 children living in Umoja.[6] As of 2015, there were 47 women and 200 children living in the village.[10]


That’s the other ugly reality at play here, given the state of these kinds of communities far from being a able to perform the role as a kind of Israel for women they tend to become women’s shelters but with worse funding.

That said I do think there are new possibilities available which weren’t there before. With things like remote work I do see how you could create female only satellite communities, in semi rural areas.

>>217571
It’s funny but George Orwell made similar complaints back in the thirties about left wing groups having issues with divisive sandal wearing vegetarians

No. 217694

>>217592
>weaker beings
Most animals are physically stronger than humans. And if you don't mean it as "physically weak" than this sort of weakness is not intristic in women jsyk.
>mirrors the exploitation of women
It's more like the opposite way around if anything. Any form of slavery mirrors animal exploitation, because it is the first form of exploitation (institutalized slavery is only found in agricultured societies, in others the maximum is deference of one group of ppl to the other one).
>a lot of feminists made this point
There are plenty of imbiciles in feminism, no wonder some vegantard tried to make this point. It's just not true, there is no correlation between respectful treatment of animals and respectful treatment of women in the slightest (India being the prime example of it).

No. 217698

>>217694
I think even if animals are stronger than us they tend to be treated very badly, cows are an example

No. 217702

>>217694
>It's just not true, there is no correlation between respectful treatment of animals and respectful treatment of women in the slightest (India being the prime example of it).
people in india don't respect animals for the right reason, they do it because of religion. it does stand to reason that a society that comes to understand that animals should be respected, NOT from an angle granted by religion, would also be more likely to treat women better, on average.

No. 217713

>>217694
So what if animals are stronger physically, they are weaker mentally. Women are weaker physically, not mentally then men. If you think that I meant anything else, you were instantly arguing in bad faith.
I will not argue with you because I see no point. I do think that there is something absolutely male (and therefore patriarchal) to brutally exploiting others (humans and animals) with zero respect and all the entitlement. Men built death machines, men care more about capitalism than ethics and EMPATHY (ignoring the option of veganism, farm animals suffering horrible death and torture before they end up on a plate – because fuck them, profit is all that matters and if gasing horrified pigs to the point they shit themselves from fear and pain; if tearing mothers from children to send them to slaughter packed like sardine fish is what makes the most profit, so be it).

No. 217721

A lot of this sounds like getting corralled by coping lesbians with really bad game. lul

No. 218957

Is this actually something anyone sees as feasible their your town ? Where do you live that it's been somewhat already achieved and how?

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>>217263
this.
I've found myself increasingly annoyed by the male body, the spiky hair on the face, the smell and thicker skin, their bodies are unfomfy and disgusting in some way. Women smell good and they are soft, gentle and comfy. too bad I'm too straight to date a woman and cannot feel attraction, but would totally cuddle with one. Sigh, can anyone become asexual all of a sudden? Cause I think that's what's happening to me

No. 218964

>>217721
*polilez

No. 220962

Men live rent free in women's heads and so-called separatists are some of the worst. You need to develop proper self-esteem, assert boundaries etc, not play dodge em in the street.

No. 227128

>How can one ease herself into separatism?
Baby steps and small personal victories. You don’t have to cut off everything male in one day. You can start off by doing something small like tipping female deliverypersons, reading books by female authors, and slowly incorporate more separatism into your life as you go along. Don’t forget to celebrate every successful step that you’ve taken, every small effort counts.
>Is there something you struggle with when it comes to separatism?
Media I consume, I really dislike most media that are geared towards females as it’s often really sexualised and heteronormative. Sometimes I end up watching stuff with only males in it because of this.
>Can society achieve separatism or at least become prominently female?
Doubt it, I think most women want to pursue relationships with men

No. 227129

I love this thread! The gym I go to is mixed gender but it's part of a women's college and they're very good about looking after the ladies who go here, a no nonsense policy so when I go I never get that horrible sick feeling that's present in the other gym in town that's full of scrotes who flirt and hog the entire place while gatekeeping about fitness (gross)

I needed both a breast and vaginal exam in the last year to be safe and I asked for a female doctor, which the receptionist was really kind about. I think originally I nearly got a male one for the breast exam but I was relieved to have a lady. I have PTSD and I was sexually abused and it was reassuring how accomodating they were.

It's super cheesy gone murder but Hello My Twenties is a really wholesome female centric show, I recommend it to anyone needing a pick me up and a cry <3

I know so many amazing, strong women and I'm thankful for my sisterhood with my friends. Despite all the shitty male gazes, casual sexism and shit happening in the world I feel so soothed, empowered and warm being around other women and I feel motivated to continue my twenties by their side.

We don't half get a lot of shit from men. Oh, and Women Don't Owe You Pretty is an absolute banger.

No. 227131

>>227129
> Hello My Twenties
Based nonny. I watched it as a teen and loved it, shame there aren’t many shows like it. I still listen to the soundtrack everyday.

No. 227145

I'm the opposite I have irrational negative feelings towards women because I'm a bitter and envious femcel. I always go for the male doctor and feel like I don't relate to other women. Actually I end up feeling like a small child when I'm with a group of women and they're all talking about their personal lives but I have zero life experience and the emotional maturity of a middle schooler. I avoid women when I can.

No. 227241

>>227145
And yet here you are on a female only or at least female majority board.

No. 227255

>>227241
I'm aware of the irony. I have female interests so I sometimes end up on female forums.

No. 227282

>>227145
>>227255
I'm the exact same anon, don't worry you're not alone I see you.

No. 227285

>>227131

Equally based nonny, it's such a feel good show and I feel the same! I might just rewatch it sometime soon, I'd watch it before my long Starbucks shifts back in the day and it got me through. I'm so happy you listen to the soundtrack every day!

No. 227286

>>227145

Nonny I want to hug you, I grew up feeling this way too because I was bullied and I'm autistic but a late-diagnosed. The feeling like a small child feeling is really difficult but I'm assuming this is when you're around women who you feel nothing in common with…I still feel remnants of this feeling when I'm around women who are say, the same ones who bullied me as a child but I have a really good friendship circle with other women who have the same interests and none of us are really that "girly" or whatever honestly. I feel for you but you have your good qualities and it sounds like you don't know it yet if you feel better and envious. I hope you can celebrate you, nonny!

No. 227437

>>227286
Well I actually am "girly" in a lot of ways but haven't had a chance to express that because I'm ugly af and never had a boyfriend or personal life. I can have things in common with women but still feel inferior to them because they're desirable and "real" women and I'm not. I try to avoid that feeling by avoiding women altogether, even the ones I have things in common with.

No. 227661

do any women in this thread have some more sensible opinions along the side of women only gyms/female doctors/female media and less along the side of abort all male babies/absolutely every single man you ever meet is going to rape and kill you/you're a pick-me if you don't treat male children like shit?
>inb4 pick me moid lover!!!
sure, if it makes you feel better. however, most of you in this thread clearly don't go outside and seem to be developing rapid onset schizophrenia, so…

No. 227663

>>227661
Not many, kek. Most of the time you are called a pickme/tradthot for even saying you want to have a relationship with a man or have children.

No. 227673

>>227661
what are your sensible opinions nonny uwu. please shower us in wisdom

No. 227683

>>227661
The ones that do just go and live their life without sperging about it online constantly.

No. 227708

>>227661
i never post in or even lurk this thread much, but "sensible opinions" is highly subjective and i think a lot would argue that trying to be sensible and holding back hasn't caused the radical changes in our history that we've needed. not that i agree with the "abort all male fetuses" rhetoric kek but generally having "sensible" opinions aka toning it down isn't really gonna do much for the rights of whoever you're fighting for. women have been shut down by men and harmed by men in so many different ways that it's not exactly surprising they have these radical ideas of them now. if they make you uncomfortable you're free to just not look at the thread



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