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samefag op once again but I recently followed joannajkenny and I like the way she posts a lot of unedited next to edited pictures, the contrast is staggering. I'd often see pictures like the one on the right and think 'there's definitely some editing there but she's probably doesn't look too different without it' WRONG. she looks totally different but in the best way because on the left is an actual human being. I'm so thankful for accounts like hers, such a breath of fresh air.
That lady is really pretty, I just wanted to say that.
I've always considered modifying yourself in the form of heavy makeup, clothing, shapewear, plastic surgery, hair dye etc a Sisyphean task because it never ends and only gets harder as you grow older. Not to mention that it's harmful for your health a lot of the time. All the money and effort you spend trying to fit into a mold set by people who don't look like you and never will, for what?
It's especially silly because I can't name a single person that looks better when shoved into an outfit that doesn't suit their body and wears trendy makeup that doesn't enhance their features, or has an expensive hairstyle that fries their hair. Not one. There's so many ways to look beautiful so I don't understand why you'd choose to copy someone else's idea of beauty.
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Funny how some niche micro e-celebs preach they hate men and want to eat the rich when they happily throw their internet monies at male surgeons so they can get their face and body sliced and diced then have the nerve to talk about how much "the beauty industry sux". How can you say that when you're helping keeping them in power and making their wallets fatter? How does it feel being a man's pay pig? Women surgeons make me feel gross, too.
Anyway, I haven't used foundation in such a long time, has anyone else who stopped wearing makeup notice how strange it looks on others when you watch a tv show or YouTube video? The weird part is I've never noticed these type of things when I was wearing a full face of makeup regularly.
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As a woman with a hairy arms I've given up on trying to "make it acceptable". I was mocked for it as a young teen, so I started wearing long-sleeved shirts. In high school I thought some of my friends were naturally hairless of something, then I slept over at one of their houses and they shaved every morning, daily. I'm happy when I meet another woman with stronger, visible arm hair, although I'd never bring it into a conversation because I don't want to treat it as a sensation, but as a normal part of life. I think patting people on the back for "being so brave" for having some visible scarring or stretchmarks feels like the complete opposite of normalization, but then, it's still going against beauty standards and it's weird to pretend people don't get shit on. It's such a sensitive topic to approach IRL.
Not caring less as much as that I've come to the realisation how anxiety inducing wearing (skin-enhancing) make-up really has been for me and how reliant I've been on it. When I was a teen up until my early twenties, when I had to wake up in the morning the first thing I would do (after dressing and showering etc). was do my make-up. I scheduled a LOT of time for this because I had to cover all my acne with make-up. I purposely did this before eating because if it took longer than planned (I wasn't very good at it after all nor did I have good products and tools) then I could just sacrifice breakfast. Looking back it's crazy that I would readily sacrifice my breakfast to cover up my acne (it wasn't even that bad, just chronic.). I never stepped outside of the house without make-up, no one at school or at my part time jobs ever saw me without make-up including foundation. I was always looking in the mirror, every break, anxiously trying to check if I was still looking presentable, if my foundation wasn't breaking up, fixing it in secret if need be etc.
Last year because I spent a lot of time at home because of corona, I finally broke my 10 years of chronic foundation and concealer use. For the first time since I was a young teen I left the house without foundation on. I must say it's been tempting to go back to foundation use but I've been resisting so far because I'll know I'll get caught up in the anxiety around it again and hating my natural skin.
I've also come to realize it's largely self-imposed. People haven't started treating me differently since I've stopped wearing foundation, I think anyway. People haven't commented on my skin either nor did they when my acne was far more active as a teen.
i have this with winged eyeliner its so retarded, i would do my makeup to go to supermarket until the pandemic. My experience is different thought cause people do treat me completely differently without makeup and i know its not in my head because its very obvious the way they are rude to me for no reason and it does kinda ruin my mood not because i feel unattractive but because people are mean. Whereas when I dress up and wear makeup they're either extra kind and going out of their way to help me or indifferent, never mean. This always fucks with my head because I love my bare face and putting on makeup does seem like a chore sometimes but knowing you'll get treated differently gets annoying. >>203501
armpit hair on women is so beautiful, when i went to laser hair removal i was sad for like 2 weeks because i thought my pubes and armpit hair wouldn't grow back and regretted going. I saw this girl i know at the park the other day she had hairy legs and was wearing a cute dress, I took a glance at her legs for a second while talking and I didnt want to say anything because pointing it out would be weird but I hope she didnt think I was gawking at her. I love seeing women go natural in public it takes courage and encourages me to do the same. Its seems so stupid to me now that I wasted all those summers wearing jeans because I hated shaving but wasnt brave enough to wear shorts.
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Sophia Loren showing off her armpit hair. Hot tbh. Women look way better with body hair than men do anyway.
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Old magazine cover of Penelope Cruz.
Personally, I find it so damn hard to keep up with all those trends and what you should or shouldn't do and I'm very happy that I grew up before Instagram and stuff like that was a thing.
Kids at school bullied me for my hair and I hate it until today and just don't know what to do about it, because its texture is complicated and not the typical "white" hair stuff (or it is and I just don't know) and I'm white as snow, so strange stuff and my mother was never any help. Guess I will have to overcome that part one day.
Except for that, I never wore foundation, could never find the right shade, people in Germany like tanning and so all the foundations were way too dark for me when I was at the age I cared about it. Nowadays I just don't care anymore, my skin is a little bit dry, but that's all, the rest is okay.
Also, I've got Keratosis pilaris on my legs, sometimes my arms and when I was younger I was so insecure about it, today I just don't mind it. Somehow living with self-harm scars and not hiding them made me stop worrying and being 30+ made it also easier, in the end we won't live forever, why waste time in a hospital bed recovering from plastic surgery? I'm just thankful and happy that my body is still strong and healthy despite what I put it through and I know that way less people care about your looks than you think.
Have you tried letting your armpit hair grow out? I used to always get wet spots under my armpits when I used to shave. I spent so much money on those special sweat reducing antiperspirants when I could've just let my body hair do its job. I haven't shaved in 2 years and it has stopped.
I still struggle with being afraid people will stare at my armpits, but I'm completely comfortable with my legs being hairy. I'm currently embracing wearing no bras, and I love that women on campus are doing it too. My saggy boobs shouldn't be some disgrace to society, everyone has nipples. Bras are uncomfortable and fighting gravity. I have heavy breasts that sag pretty low, so it hurt letting them go at first, but it's so natural now that I feel like I'm in hell when I put a bra on. I am afraid of staring, but no one has been bold enough (or maybe I didn't notice?). I just hate we've been sold the lie that boobs should be antigravity and always be squeezed and pushed up. It killed my self esteem going through puberty and having "grandma boobs" already bc I looked at the media and never saw anyone with natural breasts that were big.
I have to say, I never understood the hate for bras, I love wearing bras and they have never been uncomfortable for me. That said, I support every woman burning her bra, let your boobs be free.
What I can say about people staring is that they don't, most people just don't care. I once had a woman stare at my scars (they are visible and cover both arms, and no, I don't have bpd, kek) while being on the bus and I looked her right back into the eyes, she never dared to look again. I don't mind people asking or having a short look, but staring is just not okay and she wasn't looking like a nice and caring person, more like judging me for something she wouldn't understand.
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So much of the media we consume is filled with people literally selected for their beauty. I try to keep this in mind, but I sometimes wonder if I'd think differently of myself if I could only compare myself to the people I see in real life.
I feel you, I really have the worst memories of using makeup in high school. It was fucking miserable, constantly trying to cover up my acne (that I picked at), always reapplying it and it was always terrible quality/the wrong colour for me (it was over 10 yrs ago so not many beauty gurus to follow). I remember being at a bfs house and reapplying every couple of hours out of severe self consciousness that he'd see any of my acne, though in retrospect I was making it more obvious and gross.
I went on accutane after high school to clear it up and even though I have scarring now, I'm always so thrilled to go makeup free that I don't feel any insecurity about it. I feel way uglier with makeup on tbh, because that's not my actual face so anyone thinking I look good is just thinking my mask looks good.
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NTA but I do every fall and winter when I'm too lazy to shave. Sadly I smell and sweat so badly.
I tried so many different deodorants and antiperspirants but no matter what if I'm hairy I'm going to be sweaty.
I wax my armpit hair so it's a quick process.
That being said, I am not ashamed anymore of many things I was ashamed about as a teen. I go out with hairy legs, I only wear bras for work because our work shirt is almost transparent and white and I have a bush. I rarely wear makeup but if I do it will be a wacky eyeshadow color with lipstick and nothing else. That's as far as I go and it's for fun only. I'm usually makeup free.
I've never been one to carr about my body hair, I have serious hairy legs and arm hair but I don't mind it. I feel a bit happy when I see another woman with hairy arms, online or offline. I always, always have been pressured to shave and wax by my female family members, they make vomiting sounds whenever we meet and they catch a glimpse of my hairy leg or something. I was always called mannish because of it. And honestly at one point, you kind of stop paying it any attention. It doesn't affect me, well not enough to shave kek. But I still shape my eyebrows and remove my moustache hair, so that's that. I don't do makeup, and minimal skincare. Although I like wearing flattering, pretty clothes. I also feel like it's comes as a nice contrast with my makeup-free, gaunt face. I like how I feel when I wear some nice clothes with no makeup.
I hope we all can learn to embrace how our body looks naturally, because thinking about it. It's surreal women, even teen or preteen girls, are expected to spend a select amount of time everyday shaving every bit of their body. It's just so fucking stupid, I'm sorry. You can do whatever, shave, wax, whatever. I think it's stupid, when girls talk about how they gotta shave and they can't come today because they don't have time to put on makeup or shave. How its 'slay' when a girl takes an hour everyday perfectly doing her face. It's not slay, you don't see men encouraged to pursue this. So much time can be put into much better things than that. Even 'vain' things like exercise or something. Or even just laying down. I don't know, I have a lot of feelings about it.
sadly, everything women do is some fetish for one idiot out there, so, let's do whatever we want and if someone wants to give you money on the streets because he likes your hairy body, take it and buy you something nice, kek.>>203573
only make-up I will wear is mascara and eyeshadow, the rest, don't have time, don't care, don't want spend hundreds to get the right fitting products. The time people started to make their big bold eyebrows I stopped caring. I have very light eyebrows, you sometimes can't see them and now I should paint black marker eyebrows on my face, no, thank you, I'm not a clown.
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I'm guilty of shaving my blonde moustache. though with masks, I haven't had to worry as much. mask-wearing makes me use less make up, as well. I basically just do my eyes because I like making them stand out.
In general though, I only shave under my arms consistently because if I let it go any longer than a weekend, it feels uncomfortable. I only shave my legs to whatever point will be visible with what I'm wearing… or, if it's fall/winter and I can see the hair poking out of my tights… which yes, happens to me. A lot lol
But I don't bother with arms, though mine are just as hairy as most guys, if not more. But it's really fine and blonde, so no one has ever said anything.
I still struggle with pushing back on negative thoughts about my own body, but ever since I started committing more to pushing back on negative thoughts about other women (which have always been hand in hand for me with thoughts about myself)…..all I see is how beautiful women are. Like, once you shift to no longer seeing body hair, skin texture, etc as immediately hideous, it's like….god, we're all so fucking worried about this shit and yet women are so fucking gorgeous everywhere, all the time. Maybe it's just me also pushing back on automatically negative thoughts about women in general lol, because I get real into my feelings about how we're all working so hard in such an unfair world and I wish I could do more. But man, today I saw a grandma doing yoga stretches in the sun and I thought, holy shit I bet you've thought you were hideous at one point and you're there in tree pose looking like a fucking sun goddess. I hope you all get to see yourselves like I'd probably see you!
as someone who also shaves their face everyday I would honestly feel so happy to see you in public with your hairy chest. I can't tolerate the face hair but I leave my arm hair which is very dark and thick. I don't know how I'd react if someone pointed it out negatively but I live in a cold climate and mostly wear long sleeves.
how have you dealt with those reactions in the past?
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I really liked this photo series by Sophie Harris-Taylor celebrating women with different types of skin. I'll post a few but he's the linkhttps://www.insider.com/photo-series-showing-womens-real-skin-from-acne-to-rosacea-2019-11
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i feel so ugly lately. like i dont strive to be an ig model or anything, but im worried i have no natural appeal. is it possible to be objectively bad looking? im not deformed or anything and on good days i can look in the mirror and think i'm fine, i'm just average. but these days i hate myself so much and im like spiraling fixated on how ugly i am. it sucks cuz i know life would be so much easier if i was pretty. i feel worthless and i dont know what to do. ive never been into makeup or fashion which obviously wouldnt be the answer anyway. how do i get through this? how am i supposed to accept or even embrace being so ugly? i wish so badly that i could just be naturally beautiful
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>>204166>im like spiraling fixated on how ugly i am
I can relate. I think we all criticise ourselves way more harshly than we criticise others. if you're looking at your nose or your eyebags or acne and obsessing you have to remind youself that no on else will obsess over these things about you. have you ever obsessed over someone else's nose? (maybe a stupid question to ask on lolcow but as long are you're not a cow I honestly don't think anyone is ever going to care that much about something like that on you)
you said you can somedays think you're fine, if just average at the start of your comment and then call yourself ugly by the end of it. you're prpbably also like me in that on days when you're beating yourself up you think you're uglier. try being kinder to yourself, smile at yourself in the mirror if you can. I'm sure you're not ugly and even if you were that wouldn't make you worthless. try finding small things about yourself you do like. maybe your lips are nice or your eyes, focus on those features and remind yourself about them. these tips probably aren't worth much coming from someone else with low self esteem but I hope they may be!
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I've been thinking about my bodyhair a lot recently and saved some pictures from tumblr just to remind myself that plently of women have hair in places that you don't usually see in media
mini spam coming up since some of these pics might help any hairy anons
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anyone else grow hairs like this on their chests?
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I stopped plucking my monobrow 3 years ago. Used to pluck individual hairs using a magnifying mirror every morning before school since I was 13.
I'm ethnically Indian, never saw a monobrow on white girls or my family either since they plucked; it was my biggest insecurity. No longer caring is very relieving.
White women are pressured to tweeze their monobrows as much as you are. My natural brows look almost exactly like the pic you posted except they grow a little closer to my eyes. Glad you learned go embrace yours nonny
! I go back and forth between loving mine and leaving them natural, and tweezing them to all hell. I have embraced my leg, armpit and pube hairs but eyebrows have been difficult for me to love, along with my teeth. I've made good progress on accepting my natural self but a little girl (my relative) asked me the other day why my teeth are crooked and I wanted to cry. I know little kids have no filter but I can't help but think that's the only thing people see when they look at me.
I stopped waxing my face since I've had to wears masks everywhere anyway. I've never been especially femme but I was self conscious about my facial hair. Since leaving it alone, I've realized its really not that bad and ita definitely not gross and I don't intend on waxing ever again.>>207413
Eyebrow plucking is so painful and unnecessary, and a natural brow even if it's a uni is infinitately less jarring to me than the whole thick, painted on brows that are popular now.
As you get older your taste buds become less sensitive towards bitter flavours and hence you crave them more.
Nothing to do with growing some replacement teeth your caveman body thinks you need after a couple of decades of eating tough, uncooked food. Do you also think becoming less naive and childish is because you grew taller?
I always get mad ingrown hairs every time I shave my legs with a razor. I use an electric shaver now and though I can't get a very close shave, I get much less ingrowns. like a 80% decrease. I wish I didn't have to shave my legs but I also don't want to have some busybody point out my leg hair in public>>208273>shaving seems like such an endless chore
ugh I know. I sit on my bedroom floor and shave my legs with my electric razor while listening to a podcast and after I've done (which can take like 25 mins) I'm always like 'great got to do this again in a few days!'
I so with you on the exfoliate, shave, checking for stubble, exfoliating, shaving neverending cycle. I'm tired as fuck of it too. I want to be one of those women who leave their hair on their legs alone but I have incredibly dark, thick hair and it's highly noticable. also don't think there are many guys who'd put up with a hairy woman like me. I have enough ugly things about my body without also remaining hairy on top of it
this honestly. men do not care enough to remove their body hair when we think it's unattractive, so why should we do it for them?
if you anons are doing it because it's something you really want to do then fair enough but honestly it sounds exhausting. i leave most of mine alone, im covered up most of the time anyway but hair removal is such an ordeal i truly do not have the energy for it.
nta but im a hairy ass bitch, and most boyfriends I've had never cared about me shaving.
If a man is grossed out by hairy legs, thats not a you issue to fix, its his issue.
I've only been in 2 serious relationships but similar experience. I tend to shave right at the beginning and then by the time I'm regularly sleeping over they've seen some stubble so I relax more and more over time. Never had a complaint. I'd usually still shave here and there but very infrequently. It's not like the guys rejoiced on the rare occasions where I did shave again. It wasn't an issue.
I've had phases where I slept around a bit between relationships, I hated how I felt pressure to be bald all over for no strings meetings. It's the number one reason why I stopped having sex outside of a comfy relationship. If I can't be hairy and comfortable in front of you then I'm just not sharing my body with you.
I shave my legs a few times a year, keep my pits and pubes trimmed. No one has complained. Better than being fully shaven but unwashed, plus no stubble.
This photo is cool as fuck
My head hair is thin, but my body hair is THICK, DARK, and COARSE. I have hair on my areolas and between my boobs, and an intense happy trail.
TBH i feel like it looks badass but the amount of pubes I have do get inconvenient.
I have pretty severe body image issues so I actively try to embrace my natural look as much as possible. I never want my 'default face' to be a face with makeup on.
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here to post more pics and keep this thread alive
my arm hair is like this and I love seeing other women with hairy arms. I refuse to remove my arm hair in case their are other women out there who will see it and feel less alone
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and another one
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and a final one for today
my head hair is really fine too (though still dark brown)! but my body hair is darker. I have body issues too, I'm underweight and my body hair coupled with that really has a negative effect on my sense of self confidence. I can gain weight but I may never be able to control the hair so I am trying to learn to embrace it even if sometimes it makes me just want to cry
as for the default face thing, I totally agree. I wear a little bit of concealer but could never go back to full foundation. living a life where you don't feel right or happy or yourself without makeup isn't fun
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Overdue for my wax. My toehair gets caught in my socks. If I let it, it will reach nearly over my nail.
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I liked this GQ shoot of Emma Corrin. she's not super hairy or anything but it's nice to see leg and arm hair. she also has a fair few moles on her arms which is just like mine. I've always hated them on myself but I think they look pretty on her.
I would love a huge shift where this kind of thing becomes the norm (not shaving legs). there is still so much stigma around it. I don't want to shave mine (not to make a statement or anything. just because it's time consuming, can be painful and grows back the next fucking day) but I also want to exist in the world without being judged for it. kudos to Emma Corrin for not shaving for this shoot.
This thread is so nice to read! I've been natural for quite a while now. I think since my late teens, I never got into all the social imposed beauty bullshit. I did use makeup because of acne and because it did fit my aestethic, but I've dropped that in my 20's. Now I'm 30, hairy, braless, bareface and with natural hair. I'm so exited for more grays to grow, I'd love to have salt&pepper hair.
Can't say it's all happiness though, I'm still a bit self conscious about my body hair (very dark and thick against my fair skin) and I try to wear clothes that cover it all, even in summer. My bf is super supportive and has encouraged me to go out in shorts and skirts, he's so sweet.
Being natural was wonderful to accept myself and be confortable in my own skin. The only problem I've found is in fashion, cause I feel awkward wearing very feminine clothing while having hairy-everything. Boho/hippy/morigirl are the styles I think could work best, but I should build a wardrobe from scratch. Otherwise I prefer to dress in an androginous way, feels safe if someone catchs a glimpse of hair that way.
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does anyone know who this person is? I found her pic on a body hair positivity blog but it didn't state who she was. I wanted to see if there were any other pics of her cause she has back hair like mine
wtf is going on with her arm
also that's katherine mcnamara
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belly hair/arm hair. wish I knew who this model was too. anyone? I thought it was jenna malone but if it is I can't find any other pics from this shoot unfortuantely. I wanna build a folder of pics like this to help me when I feel down about my own body hair/also share in this thread
you're welcome sweetie
it's just that her arm is so red for some reason, like she scratched it idk lol
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okay I found it who this is, Sita Abellan. posting this other shot from the shoot. there were other pics but they all feature nudity>>213663
I noticed the redness too, it does look kind of sore
i used to have thoughts about shaving my back before, i have dark hair on the nape of my neck and stuff like this lady >>206321
and it made me feel somehow 'bad' for OTHER people for seeing my hair. it's stupid, but i still feel this way sometimes and get urges to shave my whole ass back. it's seriously so ingrained in us, this hatred of bodyhair on women. and feeling ashamed of ours. my mother made me feel the worst about it, when i was a teen i hurt my shoulders really bad and while she was checking on them she had to comment about my bodyhair and yucked at it while i was in pain. she also makes gagging and vomiting noises and faces when she catches glimpses of my leghair whenever i'm with her. so immature.
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I really hate how the only acceptable way to be skinny is to be completely flat-stomached. I wouldn't consider myself ever being fat but I also never considered myself skinny because I always had this ridge of fat separating my stomach and pubic area that never lets my stomach look completely smooth. I could try to get tonned but the fact is I can never get rid of this raised area. It resembles Greek statues, in a way I feel like they accepted the roundness of women's bodies, and not in the way it is done today where it only matters if you're thick in the 'right' places. We try so hard to fight for the unattainable for our bodies, and for what?
I look very similar to those old statues, it's the sort of natural feminine body that results from barely exercising and slight overeating but not to severe excess. Honestly I don't blame people for not liking that look anymore, I'm not a fan of fake, exaggerated bodies either but fit people just look better and put more effort into their appearance.
Sucks for me, I might have been considered hot if the local village moids had barely seen any other female bodies and had nothing to compare me to because there was no photography or film or internet or global travel.
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>>217931>body that results from barely exercising and slight overeating
No, not really. Even women who exercise regularly and eat well will tend to store a decent amount of fat by the virtue of being women. In truth we burn more
fat than men during exercise, but do not lose overall body fat as easily. Our bodies are made to retain as much fat as possible so we're prepared for childbirth. We bloat easily due to hormones and have a whole reproductive system in our gut which takes up space, and the more estrogen we produce the harder it is for us to get rid of fat. Overall we are simply primed to have more of it regardless of activity levels. It's why a woman's healthy bf percentage range is much higher than that of men's. The sort of body shown in >>217917
post is how the healthiest, strongest gym-goers I know look outside of bodybuilders cutting to achieve dangerously low (and unsustainable) percentages. The kind of flat, "flawless" body you're idealizing doesn't even exist among fit people 24/7. They are posing/flexing, working with good lighting, holding it in and taking photos pre-meal to obtain the most flattering image.
I'm not talking about fitness influencers, my point of reference for fit people are women I know irl, and am close to enough to be familiar with their eating habits and exercise routines (they aren't extreme, they don't cut calories). Maybe they have a little pouch of fat but they don't look like >>217917
because they have too much muscle to be that doughy.
I'm not saying everyone needs to be fit. I think fitness is attractive and I respect it, but I don't think attractiveness is the be all and end all. It's totally fine to prioritise other things over a perfect body, clearly I do.
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I am addicted to dyeing my hair and I wonder if anyone in this thread would have thoughts or advice.
Multiple times now I've gone back to my own hair colour just to dye it back to my "favourite" bright hair colour when I can't stand the feeling anymore. I have conditioned myself to be afraid of being boring, and that is ultimately how I feel with my own colour: not special enough.
Logically I know nobody else cares what I look like. I find natural women beautiful, but I fail to be one myself. I don't use social media, but I have this intense snowflakey need to look different from other people, and it is embarrassing to feel that way. The feeling contradicts with who I truly am. I'm so tired of this addiction.
I'm glad you posted this anon because I've been obsessed with my lower stomach for ages. It does feel comforting that other girls feel that way because the majority of my girlfriends are naturally super thin and can't gain weight.
The last 3 months I've probably been the most dedicated to the gym, I don't drink all the time anymore and my diet is pretty good considering that I don't eat out much at all and cook a lot. Still after all of that my lower belly is still crazy. Everyone's body is different but is it possibly yours has to do with bloating as well? I feel like I have a huge issue with bloating, so if anyone has advice it would be greatly appreciated.
I've looked like that statue in the abdomen area since I was a preteen and I've always been very athletic. It's just some people's fat distribution, I also happen to be Greek so maybe it's ethnic, don't know.
My mom also looks like that, so does my grandma. It's not "doughy", it's normal. No matter how much you work out, if your fat distribution is a certain way you won't be ripped with a six pack because women don't and shouldn't have a bf% that low unless you like being malnourished and losing your period.
If I can add on to this (for straight nonnas, although I'm sure many lesbians probably feel the same) many men find this feminine and sexy! It is!
I also struggle with accepting that part of my body. I hate that it makes me look like I have a gut in certain rise pants. But it really is super feminine and beautiful!!
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Aphrodite belly supremacy
i am bi and yes it is a very sexy part of a woman, any curvy lines are always attractive.
realizing my attraction to women did a lot for my self esteem because i realized i would be attracted to women with the same body as me, so why was i being so hard on myself about it?
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Just wanted to post Mitski in this thread since she has visible arm hair. She was the first female celeb I love who I noticed had it.
I used to get teased in middle school about my arm hair and I ended up shaving it after that but stopped when I was in college. Then about a year ago I stopped shaving everything. Life is so much easier now. No longer itchy, prickly, or dealing with in-growns.
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Marilyn is considered one of the most beautiful women and she had lots of visible facial hair.
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I am so glad this thread took off. I have a few more pics. I had a moment last night while washing my hands where I had to roll up my sleeves and felt down looking at my arm hair so I went looking for more famous ladies with hairy arms
It's probably been bleached to look less visible, but i love how it's just made it look like she has really glamorous platinum blonde mutton chops lol, like she made it match her hair on purpose.
Now I'm going to think about Marilyn with a dashing little white moustache
She is right. I still had fat there when I was underweight and very active. That's just how women are.>>219021
She looks beautiful. Thanks nonny
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I just watched James Walsh's recent video on filters and I think a lot of people can see an obvious shopped or heavily filtered picture and just laugh at how unnatural it looks, however the most damaging kind are the ones that look realistic. some of these apps do such a good job at making the picture look believable it's shocking how good they've got.
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I'm pleased we're becoming more aware of this kind of thing though and there are accounts showing before and afters
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Women look way better and fresh without that damn drag makeup >>219192
Same, i hate it so much
Just wanna say I think women with big noses are fucking gorgeous. I don't have one, but lots of other women in my family do yes, we're jewish and they think I'm just being nice when I compliment them, but I'm really not. Whenever there's that rare Streisand or Sarah Jessica Parker who's prominent in media and doesn't get a nose job, I watch their movies/shows/music videos/etc and just fucking marvel at how much I enjoy looking at a face that hasn't been sanded down into the same fucking pixie cuteness. There's such an incredible, proud, queenly beauty to them.
Tbh as every year of my life goes by, I realize more and more how fucking gorgeous I find everything women are supposed to blast away. Like, a 50-something woman with crows feet and freckles and all that is fucking luminous to me. It sounds so cheesy, but when I can tell a woman is comfortable in her skin, it shows. I don't want to act like "oh, someone finds this hot so now you have worth too," but also, jesus, I don't understand how someone can be attracted to women and only ever find one kind of idealized 22-year-old attractive.
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Whoops, dropped pic
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W/o the iconic makeup
MM the prettiest hoe and best catfish in the world. No woman can surpass her in terms of beauty even if it’s fake. At least her angelic smile is genuine.>>219021
I thought she used to shave her face. Maybe that pic she just didn’t shave it yet because it looks bleached.
Can’t post pics for some reason thus can’t contribute sadly test
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I like that the op pic includes large raised pores on/around the nose. I've had those for as long as I can remember and used to think they weren't "normal" because not everyone's is that pronounced. I see pores that look more like dents or craters, but not raised dots. Texture should be more normalized and the obsession with smooth/blurred skin has only gotten worse over the years. You can do everything "right" with skincare, but still have texture.
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peach fuzz is cute. as a hirsute woman with a hormone imbalance I wish I had facial hair this soft and light colored! peach fuzz like this also feels so soft and nice
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another old hollywood picture of a startlet with hairy arms! I saved this a while back, any anons who who she is? sorry for my ignorance lol
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Sometimes I grow these bizarrely long and thick eyebrow hairs. They tend to be a different shade than my normal eyebrows too. Instead of removing them I should use gel to spike them up like a cat kek
Wholesome. Middle aged women are probably the most beautiful creatures on this planet.>>219248
I'm 28 and don't wear makeup. Most of the time I'm confidant and happy being all natural but I wish I could wear cute eyeliner like a normal adult woman.
I don't wear make up, I don't shave, I don't wear deodorant and I don't wear a bra. I do wear some eau de toilette and mascara if I am going out to a restaurant, though. Although I'm blonde, I think I have some sort of hormonal imbalance that causes my bodily hair to be much more pronounced. I do pluck my little mustache because I don't like the illusion of jowls it creates on my face, if that makes sense, haha. It is very liberating to not wear deodorant nor shave. I know some anons might find it dirty, but it doesn't matter to me. Deodorant is toxic and I believe in embracing b.o. Especially if one eats a healthy diet like I do, b.o. is not necessary foul. In the same way I hope to contribute to shifting expectations of women, or people in general, by not shaving nor wearing make up, I hope to contribute to people understanding the purpose of b.o. on a healthy person. We need to let our bodies breathe and relearn what was always meant to be attractive to humans: natural faces, hair, textured skin, good fat on women, and body odour. In a similar fashion, I hope to heal my hirsutism. I don't believe body hair is bad and won't start shaving again, but I do believe that hormonal imbalances need to be addressed and healed from to live a healthy, functional life. If my hirsutism is a byproduct of unhealthiness, that shouldn't be encouraged.
Women need fat, but unfortunately we don't get enough healthy fats due to the diets that are most popular. A lot of them cause bloating due to emphasising plant-based foods which are difficult to digest for humans and not a good source of fat, whereas animal-based foods are discouraged, despite providing the most digestible sources of fat that women need. As such, I do think the pouch that a lot of "healthy" women also seem to have, isn't actually healthy at all. Gut issues are far too common but they shouldn't be. I obviously can't speak for every woman and everybody has a different situation that explains why they look the way they do, but this is a common situation. In addition, a lot of women have very poor posture, either due to a simple sedentary lifestyle, wearing heals, trying to push their butt out for more curves, everything combined or something else. Picrel is an example of a woman fixing her posture. The source of the picture is Flobility. The woman didn't lose any weight, her fat was simply distributed more efficiently since her body could carry it better. Subsequently, I think women's bodies would look differently if they were treated right in terms of utility. Overall, there are a lot of factors that contribute to why a body looks the way it does that might not seem obvious. You don't have to agree with me and I don't want to derail the thread, so feel free to be skeptical and research what I said for yourself. But I think it is valuable to acknowledge that modern beauty standards are unrealistic whilst realising natural bodies resulting from these standards are unhealthy themselves. A certain lifestyle is advertised with overly edited, groomed and posed models so you will think you're the problem for not looking the same way, and the only two options are to constantly attempt imitation of that model by following her lifestyle, or to accept you're just "different" and "natural", shifting the goal but not the means, as opposed to realising that maybe that lifestyle isn't healthy at all, since it can barely be represented by someone real. I think the body positivity movement that has gained a lot of traction over the years contributes to this. It's an unfortunately thin line and comparable to how women's sexual liberation was hijacked, leading to women thinking sluttiness/prostitution is empowering. Anyway, I'm going completely off topic, but it'll make sense.
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I was so caught up in my sperging, I dropped the pic. This actually wasn't the picture I was thinking of, but the caption that goes along with it is very interesting and offers a different perspective for a lot of people, I think. It addresses what I touched upon briefly, and the account alongside the supporting resources can offer more information if anyone is curious. https://www.instagram.com/p/CWTZrbupP9l/?utm_medium=copy_link
I stopped shaving my legs way before but this year, since I'm not in college anymore, going to swimming lessons, or dating, I stopped shaving my armpits but also stopped wearing sleeveless clothes because, where I live, that's extremely rare compared to women not shaving their legs. I feel comfortable with my own body hair when I'm alone (since I consider myself GNC, it makes me extra happy, and it's something new to me since I've never let it grow this much before) but even at home I have to wear sleeves long enough to cover my armpit hair completely out of embarrassment when my parents are around.
For the first time, my mom saw my fully grown armpit hair yesterday when I wore a tank top. All this time since I decided not to shave it, I've been hiding it from her. She told me that I should shave and that it makes my sweat smell stronger which I don't think is true because I also got strong body odor from there without body hair. Then she told me that it looks ugly and that kinda made me feel like shit especially with the uncharacteristically rude way she said it. Besides, in my opinion, the stubble I get (and the one she gets kek) a couple days after shaving looks even uglier. I don't get why it's such a big issue for her, every third woman here lets her leg hair grow freely and even my mother herself tries to pressure me into wearing shorts and skirts outside despite not shaving my legs (because, surprise, I'm too self-conscious about it), I even had a skin condition recently that left me with horrible dry skin patches on shoulders, arms and legs, my legs look fucking disgusting right now because of it yet she thinks my natural armpit hair looks too ugly not to shave? lmfao
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>>296494>I worry that the butch women I'm into won't be interested in me since I'm not longer stereotypically femme with my short hair, no make up, no shaving.
A lot of femmes used to look like that before the 90's, so don't worry. Your femme energy isn't stored in the hair on your head. Not shaving makes you softer and not wearing make up makes you look more feminine imo.
Anyone else stop wearing makeup regularly but still like watching makeup tutorials or browsing new products? Now that I only wear makeup for special occasions, I actually enjoy it when I do wear it, it feels fun and not like a daily chore of making sure my eyeliner looks even at 6 in the morning.>>296421>She told me that I should shave and that it makes my sweat smell stronger
I deleted my post before because I wanted to reply to you, but I’ve heard this before and I’m almost certain it’s bs spread by razor companies. I’ve done a combination of shaving/waxing/leaving my underarm hair alone for years and my pits definitely aren’t less smelly when they’re hairless. If anything, they are slightly more
smelly after I wax. It’s always weird to me how women are expected to have long hair but the slightest bit of body hair is somehow a hygiene issue. If hair is so unhygienic, shouldn’t we shave our heads too? Body hair is not unhygienic. As long as you’re cleaning yourself properly and wearing deodorant, you’re not gonna have odor issues.
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>>297033>he tells me his penis stinks of sausage everytime he eats one.
Why is he telling his sister what his dick smells like jesus christ
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I think I'm starting to become more confident about my skin. I've had so many stretch marks since puberty that I've barely used shorts and short skirts/dresses since I was 12. I'm 22 now and I refuse to spend another summer wearing long pants at home because I hate seeing myself. Eating healthy, drinking plenty of water, gently exfoliating my skin and using good quality hydrating creams everyday makes me feel and look so much better.
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I refuse to believe someone has no shame admitting any of this.
I love being a ginger(outside of teasing when younger and moid sexualizing it now) my hair it my favorite feature! I'm jealous you got freckles they are so cute!
I've personally stopped wearing makeup most days and its so satisfying.
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Holy hell I came back to this thread after a year forgot I posted my foot kek I am def not a tranny nor scrote here is another foot pic yes my toes are hairy and I actually quit waxing them and only do legs occasionally because the pain from toe waxing was too fucking much. Sometimes I have split ends in my toe hairs. Yes this is my foot.
This thread was such a breath of fresh air to read. I've been on a journey the last few months of not shaving certain areas of my body to see how they feel. I've always had a hairy vagina, could never be bothered with it and gave me the worst ingrown hairs, so I've mostly just been experimenting with my pits/legs. Have since come to the conclusion I don't mind my leg hairs growing out a bit but prefer to keep them short/shaved, though I'm loving having hairy pits! I agree with a lot of the anons here that it looks quite soft and feminine. When it comes to trimming downstairs though….. my god. I hate it. My neck hurts, my back aches. I like to keep it trim, because I'm italian and I have quite wiry, thick pubic hair, getting too long means there's about an inch of hair covering my clit and forming its own hairy gate to my vagina. But trimming can be so tedious and time consuming, not to mention accidentally knicking yourself with the scissors.
I wish places that waxed vaginas would offer trims, like a vagina barber. That way they could get all the places I can't see looking down, and it alleviates some anxiety about it.
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weirdly really like to see other women with hairlines that extend down our necks and backs tbh. mine is similar to this and even just this pic alone makes me feel so much better about myself.>>303637
you didn't need to post another pic to prove yourself nona kek. Idk why you got the comments you originally did since there are clearly examples ITT that some women just grow hair in places others don't.
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I have Ehlers Danlos and have had SO many stretch marks since I was like 12 years old. I was extremely self conscious for most of my life but now I kind of like them. Mine look a bit like this in pic related. I don't see them as ugly anymore, just an interesting decoration.
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A few nonas have already mention this but Keratosis Pilaris (aka chicken skin aka strawberry skin) was one of my biggest insecurities. I think because I thought "girls should have soft skin" and i didn't. If people ever touched my skin, they acted surprised/disgusted that it was actually rough and bumpy. It made me so insecure. It got worse for me in my 20s and began to get inflamed. It spread to my breasts and buttocks. I was told it would go away as I got older but it didn't, and I've tried all the creams, supplements, exfoliants etc. and it doesn't budge.
I can't keep up with the expensive and time-consuming routine to make my skin soft so I just do minimal exfoliation (with an Italy towel, once a week) and basic moisturising. I still wish I had soft, clear skin but I don't obsess over it anymore. As I've got older I've noticed a lot of people have it and they are not any less attractive to me so why should I be against it on my own body.
Same!! I have severe stretch marks and KP but ive started to just love my body instead of being self conscious! I have dark/tan skin so often theyre like extremely light on me and its always made me insecure
Wholesome memory but when I was 14, I was im the girls changing rooms for gym and the stalls were full so I just had to suck it up and change with everyone and one of the older girls complimented me and said they looked like tiger stripes and ever since then Ive just thought of it like that hehe
I love this for you nonna! I have extremely curly hair and hated it my whole life. Recently Ive started wearing products for it and I get a lot of compliments on my curls!
Learning to love your natural curls feels so freeing
Congrats nona - I care! It can be a daunting step if you're unused to it. How did it feel? I quit makeup years back and it's been so freeing.>>304574
Same. I freaked out as a teenager when my thighs were covered in red stretch marks but now they're silver and look kind of cool. >>304576
Nice. I'm in a similar boat, I'm bigger than before, no makeup and I only shave my armpits (I don't wear shorts or skirts so no one knows how furry I am haha). Feels good to be natural and less time dealing with ingrown hairs.
It’s always a reality check to me how many women there are who don’t dare to leave their house without make up and feel pressed to conform to the usual modern beauty standards. Where I hang out, most girls don’t even shave their legs and only wear make up decoratively it’s actually rare to see someone in full cake face. but when I hang out with a totally different social circle (recently had rich normies) than mine through friends, and many of the women have lip fillers and procedures done and it looks weird and uncanney valley to me. But they all do it, their friends do it, their boyfriends think its normal while I sit there and think girl you would look so much prettier without fillers >>303954
i tried shaving off my hair down there a few times and I always regretted it and hated the look and feeling of it. Plus I realized that in other women full shaved looks like plucked chickens, while well groomed pubic hair looks cute and pretty to me. Sometimes I trim it a bit when it gets too long for my taste but zero hair just looks weird imo.
I'm 25 and my grays are coming in strong. I've had them since 21, but now there's a streak forming in the front and one in the back. I think it'll look cool as hell. They're not even gray but like bright white.>>310163