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No. 196431

Have you noticed that the internet has been progressively getting more obsessed over "aesthetics" and labeling everything with -core? This is the place to discuss that.
Talk about your opinion on aesthetics, or share if you unapologetically like them.
Find some random aesthetics here:
https://aesthetics.fandom.com/

No. 196438

It's because everyone's identity now is shattered and you're supposed to create one by buying things. I'm so fed up with this superficiality, especially the expectations on women to look good above all else. I give up

No. 196440

I do like how the dark acadamia trend involves listening to classical music, reading classic literature, and visting art museums. Appreciating culture makes it more than a fashion style.
Otherwise, what >>196438 said.

No. 196450

Replacement for subcultures, except subcultures were based around things like music but with these the most important thing is appearance.

No. 196453

>inb4 poor and bitter meanie
but let me just say that people who need to dress up a certain style to match their personality is so main character syndrome. there's nothing wrong with dressing up in certain occasions and with certain styles, but when people overdo this whole "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT MY STYLE. IM WEARING GOTH CLOTHING!" when theyre just going to buy milk at the grocery store is such a pathetic byproduct of consumerist culture. wouldn't it be better if people just enjoyed shit without having to try so hard to match it with their appearances? hobbies and interests doesnt have to be one big instagram and tiktok performance

No. 196460

>>196440
most people into dark academia don't even do this lol. it's just poor kids larping online.

No. 196464

>>196460
Too bad.
So what do the people into these aesthetics actually do with it? Just curate photos online or what?

No. 196483

>>196453
wow this makes sense tbh

No. 196488

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>>196453
Anon, I'm just trying to get laid.

No. 196489

>>196453
Maybe some people enjoy clothing and dressing up in themselves as hobbies. Just an idea.

No. 196491

>>196464
yes. pinterest is one of the most popular sites simply because of this.

No. 196493

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I love cottagecore. It's such a chill nice thing based on flowers and nature. There's also this subset of cottagecore called honeycore that uses a lot of yellow things and I love yellow.

I honestly half heartedly wish I was 18-ish again instead of 25 and could focus on this aesthetic rather than obsessing over lolita fashion. I like the mature and healthy aspect of cottagecore better. But I also know that if it wasn't for lolita I would had never come across lolcow.

No. 196494

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i blame tumblr, you can see how when people started using/looking up tumblr aesthetic became more popular, it's the people who used to rely on it who migrated and infected more people.
tumblr is where the focus on aesthetic and having an identity was the strongest, you designed your own blog, you had tags, and most had a theme for their blog they religiously stuck to, some even adapted kinks that fit their newfound aesthetic, tumblr was all about individualism, individualism is the biggest movement of the 21st century, we were taught about it since day one and tumblr really amplified that with made up genders, degen kinks, pronouns, fandoms… all about having an identity to stand out from the crowd.

No. 196497

>>196494
it went:
myspace -> tumblr -> ig/pinterest -> twitter -> tiktok(?)

tumblr definitely popularized aesthetic trends we see today, but twitter put it on steroids. tumblr is very much a self-contained website, follower count isn't shown etc. while something on twitter is there to be monetized and promoted.
however tumblr definitely enabled e-begging. also it's interesting that you say having an identity is so important, as most of these social media sites now don't let you customize anything html wise on your own page (as opposed to tumblr/myspace).

No. 196498

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>>196494
also notice how the top countries of all time are poor/strict countries, aesthetics were made popular by people online who couldn't express themselves freely IRL so they lived through their curated online personas as an outlet and even today majority of aesthetic fanatics struggle with self expression and identity and usually have no social life aside from the core community they're in.

No. 196499

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>>196494
The -core stuff definitely came from Tumblr, I remember people started using those as tags to find images to match their blog's theme (like #cleancore) but now it just refers to an aesthetic in general.

No. 196500

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health goth obama

No. 196505

>>196499
The -core word has existed since forever though, like with breakcore and speedcore

No. 196506

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Tbh unpopular opinion but I really like it, I might be showing my age on the younger spectrum of the lolcow user but it makes things so much easier, finding content you like, finding clothes you like, finding music, book, and movies recomendations.

And tbh in the early times of the interent people wouldn't just follow a very specific aesthetic, they would just blantantly skinwalk whoever was e-famous which in my opinion is way worse than whatever is going on right now.

No. 196537

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confession: i’m more obsessed with sleazecore than any scrote from /fa/ has ever been

No. 196540

>>196537
tfw no kramercore gf

No. 196541

I feel like I never really got into my ult aesthetic because I know it'd look stupid on me. Does anyone feel this?
I had a blog full of cyberpunk glow cityscapes (mainly Japan or asia) with high fashion. Ime white people can only embody that style so much before it becomes obvious that you're a weeb or a koreaboo or just "weird" to other normies. That's not to shade anyone who does dress up in japanese fashion in the west, I legit admire your bravery and maybe you have a face that can pull it off, but I just can't do it personally bc I know it'll look like shit on me. My face is very angular and gaunt with other harsh features like an aquiline nose and thin lips. And because my eyes are my only good feature bangs will never look good on me.

No. 196542

>>196541
surely angular & harsh features are ideal for someone who's into high fashion? most models seem to share those traits, and it gives everything a lovely otherworldly feel! ditto cyberpunk

No. 196547

it all ends up hashtaggable and searchable crap because of the nature of social media and internet that snowballs into a meme, and ads upon ads for shit that is mostly unorganic. the lack of real appreciation for clothing and the labor of making it in most cases annoys me.

No. 196558

"aesthetics" is just a new way to say cliques.

No. 196561

>>196537
i need a hot guy who dresses like this stat

No. 196565

i think it's a 18 and under kinda thing. cringecore

No. 196566

>>196500
no anon it's casual tech core

No. 196594

>>196558
nah because that involved actually bonding with other people. -core aesthetics literally just involve buying the same clothes and using the same hashtags

No. 196606

>>196489
i understand that anon, i think good fashion, art curation and people who sew and design is really fucking cool. but if your identity and hobby has to involve mindless consumerism of cool internet labels you picked up on social media marketing schemes, then is it really a hobby? is it an identity? seems like it deserves as much mocking as collecting funko pop vinyls. ___core crap is just genderwahoo for products.

>>196547
this.

No. 196618

Hate the current ''y2k'' trend. You don't look y2k, you look like you bought out the entire AliExpress catalog. Having 20 see-through crop tops that rips after washing them twice and wearing a claw clip in your hair thinking you're fucking Bella Hadid is not y2k.

No. 196630

It seems to be result of people (mainly teen girls) wanting to be different but also be part of something. People who obsess over aesthetics sometimes seem like quite boring people underneath it all. The worst part of it is when these 'aesthetics' romanticise bad behaviour such as faking mental illness or drug use.

No. 196702

>>196493
Are you me noni? I love cottagecore and think yellow is tragically underrated too. Although I was more into soft grunge than lolita when I was 18.
I don't know, cottagecore may be a new word but it's not a new concept, Karolina Zebrowska made a really good video about its "true origins", and considering it's about escaping urban life to enjoy simpler pleasures I'd say at its core it's something a lot of us desire.
I do feel like a lot of these aesthetics are just a mixture of escapism, consumerism and a desire to differentiate oneself from the masses. It's not unusual that it's mostly teenagers and young adults that are being drawn to different aesthetics. Personally I think this is much more enjoyable than the bullshit that was the 2000s and 2010s with absolutely everyone looking the same like >>196506 said.

No. 196716

>>196537
I am so jealous of narrow-bodied model-framed women who can pull this off while not being scrotes. I've suppressed my desire to look like this since it was popular on /fa/ but goddamn, I still want to dress like it even if it looks fucking horrible to most people. Fuck.

No. 196721

>>196506
I just think the over-identifying with an aesthetic is stupid. A lot of people don't use it to find more of what they like, they decide they like xyz aesthetic and therefore they must also like accompanying media and hobbies. Also a lot of people are no longer able to think outside the very specific outlines of an aesthetic.

No. 196727

The best thing to come out of this aesthetic-core retardation is that it makes it a little easier for me to shop for clothes online. I don't identify with any aesthetic and I think just calling a style an aesthetic is cringe itself, but since they encourage uniformity in style, if I know which aesthetic likes to wear that thing I can just search for whatever-core and find the style of clothes I'm looking for. Before I'd have to figure out what the cuts of certain pieces are or what the particular style of shoe is called and hope I find a good brand that carries the styles I like. On the other hand, since trends seem to come and go so quickly now, I think that it also encourages fast fashion because those cheap places that cater to poor teenagers want to have every aesthetic under the sun available to purchase, so the quality of the clothes goes down hard. It makes it harder to find decent quality pieces below the luxury price point, like there's less middle-priced trendy clothing than there used to be. It also might make younger people less comfortable with the idea of being yourself if you don't fit into the mold of what everyone else is doing in your aesthetic community. I.e. "she thinks she's x-core but likes y-thing? Poser! You're not x-core at all!" Not that that wasn't a thing in alt fashion beforehand. It just seems to have become more prevalent.

No. 196760

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>>196493
I love it too but I’m 30 and probably too old for it. I should just go hobbitcore instead, I feel like that would be cute even when we I’m 80

No. 196831

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I'm old enough to remember googling things like "clueless fashion" or "romy and michelle's high school reunion clothes" and getting two pages of results, none of which were what I was looking for. I lived in a tiny backwards town and could only glimpse things in magazines and then hope they would still be in stock when we went shopping in the big city. Of course they never were so my parents would stand there annoyed while I tried to find clothes that I liked on the spot without really having a defined style. It was a nightmare.

I'm so glad aesthetics are a thing as it's so much easier to find clothes that go together and find items that other people have picked out. I buy the exact same thing online or easily find 20 similar items. I can also look up clothes used in movies find the exact brand and season, as well as buy a the real thing vintage.

I do think people go over the top with body aesthetics though. The average person 20 years ago would not have known about botox or fillers, let alone know anyone that had had any.

>>196497
>myspace -> tumblr -> ig/pinterest -> twitter -> tiktok(?)

You're missing some smaller sites. Before Myspace there was Livejournal and Hi5. Livejournal had a more text based fangirl aesthetic. Between Myspace and tumblr there was Bebo (mostly UK) which had a more mainstream Myspace fashion, VampireFreaks which was pure goth, and a big shift towards Facebook. Facebook never had an aesthetic but was first marked as a more professional networking site. Twitter came before IG/Pinterest and was mostly celebrity dominated.

Pic related - Bee Pirate Hooker, the ultimate queen on Bebo. She now only has like 30 followers on IG lol

No. 196833

>>196760
It wouldn't last, though, Hobbiton gets all modernized. :(

No. 196838

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>>196833
I was going to say no way, they kept their adorable agrarian society for hundreds of years but then I remembered they had little clocks and umbrellas for whatever reason so who knows. Still seems like a based lifestyle / aesthetic
>stop shaving my toes
>eat cheese and mushrooms and cakes
>chill up in trees and shit and toke

No. 196844

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>>196831
You just reminded me of my childhood and teen years.
>want to be goth
>but wait, I'm 13 and I live in a small town in Central Asia
>it's 2007, my family just got dial-up
>only stores in my town are small boutiques selling imported garbage from Turkey and China
>asking my parents to take a minibus to the capital just so I can buy cool goth clothes with their money is unimaginable, mom makes fun of Doc Martens, calls them grave digger shoes
>I naturally think that makes them even cooler
>try my best with what I had, mom accuses me of betraying Allah for wearing gray eye shadow
>walk around looking like hot garbage but feeling like hot shit with my gelled down fringe and brand new skater shoes because I wanted to try being emo instead
>mom starts thinking I'm clinically retarded
>accidentally bankrupt parents watching crispy 4-part Bleach streams and pretending I'm Japanese on Chatango

>years later, it's 2013 and I'm a cool teen now living in the big city, which now has 2 whole businesses listed on foursquare

>now a proud owner of a smartphone and Doc Martens I got for my birthday, they were too heavy for me so I only wore them once and lost interest
>want to be scene now
>problem: still dependent on my parents who still live on a small town budget, I have black hair that's extremely resistant to bleach and coloring your hair anything than natural colors or henna is unheard of
>still really want coon tails, still can't dress myself
>only stores with cool youth clothes are normie chains like Bershka, shopping online is now possible but only from limited Chinese wholesale sites willing to ship to my country
>this time I look for cool alt clothes in thrift shops to spice up my wardrobe (there aren't any)
>end up with lots of ugly graphic tees mixed with weird 80s clothes
>bleach my hair
>look like shit
>hear mom praying for me to Allah

kids today don't know how easy they have it.

No. 196855

>>196760
>hobbitcore
Didn't know this existed but I've finally found a -core I identify with. I'm not short or especially hairy but their maximum comfy lifestyle is goals.

No. 196858

>>196760
Anons cottagecore is literally timeless. You can be 50 and still rock it, it’s not only for teens kek

No. 196860

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>>196760
>>196858
This. As someone who actually grew up living the ""cottagecore"" life before it was an aesthetic, let me tell you you can live your cottagecore dreams at age 80. My grandparents do. Think about it, cottagecore is about living an (idealised) rural life, old(er) people live on the country side too. Things like baking and gardening don't stop being good hobbies to enjoy once you hit 30. Absolutely not trying to be catty here, but be careful that you don't get too caught up in this dreamy visual idea of pretty girls running around in white dresses in flower fields. I mean, I guess it's an aesthetic and aesthetics are visual things first and foremost. Aesthetics are beautiful visual things, not living a certain lifestyle so I guess I get where the idea comes from that it's only for pretty young girls, but the rural/simple life that cottagecore promotes itself is for all ages, should that be what you want.

No. 196873

>>196844
>try my best with what I had, mom accuses me of betraying Allah for wearing gray eye shadow
i’m wheezing bless ur heart nonnie i can relate

No. 196876

>>196493
I really hate aesthetics like Dark Academia and Cottage core because it’s bastardized idealism that removes much of the nasty bits from history that these two aesthetics take from. Cottagecore is either for liberal youtube people who don’t want to explicitly say they want to be away from minorities and are actually embraced by white supremacists. Dark academia comes with the enlightenment era/renaissance stuffiness and hubris. Both suck, awful taste

No. 196879

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>>196876
plenty of minorities like cottagecore wtf

No. 196880

>>196879
samefag also dark academia is just prep with darker colors

No. 196881

>>196876
I want to live in a cottage so I can get away from people with opinions like 'wanting to live in a cottage in racist actually'

No. 196889

>>196876
Yeah, you don't have to overthink every trend zoomers come up with. It's not that deep.
Generally, people like cottagecore because they like the look of airy dresses, natural fabrics and cozy countryside porches. If you want to somewhat overanalyse, the association with a calm stressfree lifestyle in beautiful nature is appealing in contrast to hectic modern life and tech.
People like dark academia because they associate it with this mysterious kind of setting filled with intrigue, old books and beautiful architecture, besides liking the dark preppy sort of look.
These types of aesthetics are usually not political meant to make any type of statement really. It's more like the opposite, it's escapism and trying to build an identity around what you think is cool.

No. 196916

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>>196876
I'm European and my family have been farmers living the ""cottagecore"" lifestyle for longer than written records exist. What nasty bits of history did they participate in that are being erased through cottagecore? Are you upset that the aesthetic isn't utilising enough pigshit and cholera, or suggesting that some bumfuck European farmers are to blame for history's ills?
This way of thinking about things is so stupid. Do we think that in a hundred years time, 2000s American fashion will be forbidden because the government was bombing Afghani villages at the time? Not everything that borrows from history is political.

No. 196919

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>>196916
Learn your continents history first. Repackaged German national socialist romanticism of the countryside or "volk" but make it digestable for minorities and online users who were never even included in these cultures when it was gaga for the woman haters back then. It's actually interesting how these ideas are softly repeated in the masses very silently and exists because of your ignorance.

No. 196923

>>196919
not only germany has countryside romanticism. there's english country gardens, rural france, etc

No. 196927

>>196919
Wow, didn't know only Germany had rural culture! Guess all the people they killed in all those neighboring countries were cultureless swines before they got invaded by Germans, huh?

Lmao read a book, your racism is showing.

No. 196928

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>>196919
So because the idea of romanticising the countryside (which has existed in different forms for thousands of years) was also used by some fucktard Germans in the 1930s, it is now forbidden across an entire continent for the rest of time?
Idealising rural lifestyles can be done by any culture or race (look at Li Ziqi or Dianxe Xioage), it isn't exclusive to Europeans and certainly not to fucking Nazis.
Why do you think rural gentrification is such a big issue? People want to move to the countyside because it is a nice place, which is exactly the same reason why people like the cottagecore aesthetic. Let people enjoy their cultural traditions and stop desperately grasping for problems.

No. 196930

Honestly I think it’s dangerous to romanticize rural life. I’m Canadian, and I think Anne of Green Gables is one of the most iconic rural books, but in reality rural life is so hard for people that everyone is leaving and moving to cities. High taxes, poor infrastructure, poor social services, lack of education, racism (the Indigenous rural people are unable to find work), drug addiction, unemployment, backbreaking work and poverty, etc. I think people can like an aesthetic all they want but let’s not pretend cottagecore has anything to do with actual rural life. It’s just a nice way for urban or suburban middle class people to dress and buy furniture or whatever but it shouldn’t go deeper than that. The rural life that’s glorified is the one rooted in wealth, most rural people in the past never wore white clothes except for church or something lol, they would get dirty fast and would be expensive to clean.

No. 196932

>>196930
I don’t think cottagecore / hobbitcore people are interested in living in a dump trailer on cinderblocks in methville Alabama though, they’re interested in an idealized but reachable simple life, closer to nature. >>196855
Literally the dream. Controversially I think it’s actually doable but it would require people to live very simple, somewhat insular lifestyles, and work closely with their community to keep everyone well cared for.

No. 196934

>>196930
I'd rather people romanticize rural life than shit on farmers and blue collar workers because they think they're too stupid to do anything else. Those same Natives are some of the most underprivileged people in the country and very few of them are cool tech bros who can afford to live in big cities. The reason there's fuck all rural infrastructure and poor farmers are exploited is exactly because everyone who can moves to cities and thinks people who aren't like them are lesser and don't deserve to live well. If more people moved to the countryside, there would be more opportunities for those who can't afford to move as well. Money follows rich people.

My family has never had a car growing up, we had to take the one bus that leaves to the biggest nearby town once every few days, there were no healthcare facilities around and you can forget about anything fun people can do that isn't meth. That of course comes with constantly being treated like the biggest retard all your life because you can't afford college tuition through no fault of your own, and therefore can't get a better job.

The countryside isn't a city, you can't gentrify people who live a mile away from you if they own the property. You sound extremely privileged and fake woke.

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>>196919
Cottagecore was huge in 18th century France and other countries. Learn some more European history other than German Nazis.

No. 196939

>>196844
so many of these things were a right of passage for 2000s kids

No. 196953

>>196934
It's probably different in the US and Canada since they're so big, but rural gentrification in the countryside is a big issue in some areas (at least in the UK and Ireland).
Rich people who work in cities buy homes in rural villages and towns (a lot of the time these are second homes, so the property isn't even used most of the time), which drives property prices up and forces the locals (who are still some of the poorest in society) to move away. The influx of rich people does create some more jobs, but these are mostly minimum wage and in the service sector. Infrastructure only improves when it benefits the rich, and they still only vote in their own interests.
I think cottagecore is fine and I also prefer that people romanticise rural people than think they're all stupid hillbillies, but if there is any issue with it then its definitely gentrification, not whatever racial bs people like to discuss.

No. 196956

>>196934
>>196930
I wish you North-Americans would stop generalizing your experience as universal. Or at least you must be from large countries with large countrysides. I grew up on what we consider the country side in a small country in Europe and my experience is nothing like what you described. Yes high taxes but also proper infrastructure, decent public transportation, proper social services, good education that's more often than not better than in large cities because the classes are smaller, unemployment isn't particulaly high because large(r) cities are close enough to commute on a daily base. The only annoying thing is rich people from the city building their villas here and trying to change the culture of the locals while changing the landscapes with their grand houses.

No. 196957

>>196956
Belgium?

No. 196958

>>196876
>Cottagecore is either for liberal youtube people who don’t want to explicitly say they want to be away from minorities and are actually embraced by white supremacists
Yes, white people totally invented countrysides, flowers and small animals. All non-white people live in cities and wear jeans all the time. They have absolutely no clue what a forest or a farm is.
Do you understand just how stupid you sound?

No. 196960

>>196956
Working-class farmers who are detached from diverse city life totally aren't racist girl! I'm so, so sorry for misunderstanding European history, excuse me I know yes I know that Irish people are white as well grrr darn me

No. 196962

>>196958
Never seen a countryside that looks like a European one in foreign countries. The problem is that it's still eurocentric. Farming isn't the same in other countries

No. 196963

>>196962
>The problem is that it's still eurocentric
What's the problem with european trends? Are you a burger?

No. 196965

>>196956
Are you the pope? Get lost Francis

No. 196966

So glad this thread was made. This trend of aesthetics is so annoying and it's making people all the same when they think they are being unique.

I remember growing up and thinking all these curated lifestyles were only limited to the uber-rich and magazine photos, but now with social media you'd think everyone has perfectly aesthetic lives. I just now assume the more someone has everything in their life ~*~aesthetic~*~ the more boring and average they are, and that they can't think for themselves.

Not to mention how the brands have realized that #cottagecore is a hot-seller and now you can buy it from Hot Topic. Consumerism is now overtaking it and so many idiots are falling for it.

No. 196967

>>196962
Nta but why is it problematic that cottagecore is ""ëurocentric""? Why can't we just let an aesthetic be about the contintent it, "it" in this case being a specific type of farming/rural life, it orginates from? Seems to me that people are only calling it problematic because it's from Europe and white people are bad! Because we're not calling anime or lolita or smth japan-centric.

No. 196968

>>196919
farming/rural life is exclusively European?

No. 196969

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>>196962
I could slap a filter on this pic of a Nigerian countryside, tag it as "cottagecore" on any social media and get engagement because it looks quaint and pretty. Literally no one will yell at me "Ackshually this is not European, I can tell from the greenery, pls delete OP" lol. The main focus of "cottagecore" isn't on any specific racial group, but on the simple concept of living around nature, and having a very idealized, almost fairy tale like life. Pretty much every culture has variations of many of the same mythological creatures/fairy tale concepts btw, since I feel like "Europeans invented fairy tales" is coming next.
>The problem is that it's still eurocentric.
What's wrong with people of European descent enjoying idealized variations of things from their own continent? What's the alternative, them appropriating other cultures instead?
If you just think there should be more cultures included, it's really up to you to be the change you want to see. If you leave it to white zoomers, it'll more than likely just end up as comical, offensive caricatures because they're just not that familiar with those cultures.
>Farming isn't the same in other countries
Yes, there are variations, but the core aspect of focusing on nature and separation from the dullness of "modern life" remains the same. People of every culture and race have idealized this concept. It's not racist to do so.

No. 196970

>>196876
>for liberal youtube people who don’t want to explicitly say they want to be away from minorities
Wut, I'm mexican and I would love to live in the mexican countryside. That's a weird assumption

No. 196971

I thought we were going to make fun of -core aesthetics like weirdcore or traumacore on this thread, not argue about racism

No. 196972

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>>196962
An aesthetic based on rural europe is eurocentric, what a big shock. Why do you think its called cottagecore and not yurtcore or minkacore?

Cottagecore at a basic level is obviously eurocentric, but the idea of "romanticised rural life" can be applied to literally any culture. There's an abundance of cottagecore content based on chinese traditions instead of european ones.

If you dont want to participate in a "eurocentric aesthetic", nobody is forcing you to nonnie.

No. 196973

the nymphette aesthetic that was popular 1 or 2 years ago was super ugly

No. 196977

>>196973
Isn't nymphet shit more of an early 2010s thing?

No. 196978

>>196973
Wasn't it based on pedophilia too? Gross

No. 196981

>>196971
ngl that dream core vid seems kinda cool

No. 196985

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>>196973
>>196978
It was based on the 'Lolita' movies, mainly in regards to the costume design. It honestly looks kinda like a slutty precursor to cottagecore

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>>196972
yurts and cottages are not equivalent, nothing alike, those people are not farmers they do livestock exclusively they move constantly and their lives are very different, when people "romanticize rural life" they're not talking about yurts its a niche thing and country houses exist in central asia, there are mf old people doing agriculture in the countryside everywhere in the world its pretty much the same culture everywhere cause they do same things with minor tweaks, cottagecore in essence is not eurocentric i dont see how someone can see it that way unless they think being white is a prerequisite. The brick houses, villager style clothing, sourcing your produce, having tea in the garden or w/e tf is the same everywhere

No. 196995

>>196988
The yurtcore comparison was just a joke.
Of course at its essence of "romanticised rural life" it isnt eurocentric (that's what I was trying to say) but most cottagecore stuff that I see is based off of European buildings and fashion (and there's nothing wrong with that, for it to be a somewhat unified aesthetic you have to draw the borders somewhere).
Yes rural life exists everywhere but the styles are obviously different, compare a traditional Vietnamese village to a Welsh one, and then compare the clothes they wear. Its a bit more complicated than just having the commonalities of brick houses and wearing peasant clothing lol.

No. 197014

>>196995
my bad i get what you mean now

No. 197027

>>197014
Its okay nonnie, I didn't explain myself very well to begin with anyway

No. 197030

>>196956
>>196953
Nobody asked. OP specifically talked about Native Americans. Learn how to read.

No. 197031

>>196967
I agree with this. There's actually a mega-popular "rural" Chinese influencer called Li Qi Zi who does a Chinese take on the cottagecore thing and I assume more of the like will pop up if the trend continues.

No. 197040

>>197030
Thank you. I don’t know why everyone’s blog posting about how rural life is so cool wherever they’re from when I’m specifically talking about the North American context, which does have a racial/colonial element to it. I’m not some woke sjw myself, I’m also not white and I can read between the lines when it comes to cottagecore imagery. It’s also funny to me to see middle class surburban or urban people romanticizing rural life. You can enjoy the aesthetic but don’t get butthurt when other people don’t like it/think it’s bullshit

No. 197042

>>197040
>accusing others of being butthurt
seethe

No. 197045

>>197042
Go repost a photo of a wheat field and calm down

No. 197055

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>>197040
Ok but before cottagecore we had natural-kei and that never was a problem. It's only now that everyone wants to make shit political.

No. 197056

>>197055
everyone loves the japanese ofc

No. 197063

>>197040
It's just not that deep. People are more distant from nature and simplicity of living these days, so they romanticize that life. That doesn't mean it's truly an easy lifestyle or that they are racists when literally no one but sjws even make that connection to race. Ever since some twitter user brought it up every woke person latched on like it's evil, when it's just women enjoying pretty pictures and daydreams.

No. 197069

>>197040
>which does have a racial/colonial element to it
Where and how? At what point have you seen killing Native Americans to steal their land and enslaving African-American people included as part of this aesthetic? I'm pretty sure you said it actually omitted those things (and that's meant to be a bad thing for some reason. This is kind of like claiming liking vintage/retro things and aesthetics is bad because that point in history was very racist).
Also, weren't you calling it Eurocentric? Why are we hopping to calling it Murrican and colonialist when you said you were seeing European countrysides only?

No. 197072

I'm not even into cottage core but so fucking tired of idiotic American takes on European things. Wtf is up with accosiating traditional European farmer culture with nazism? Fucking chill. Let people enjoy their wheat fields.

No. 197073

the new way to be a rebel is to have your aesthetic be non existent and to dress in mismatched clothes without thought
not in a punk or a grunge way
just literally not giving a fuck

No. 197078

>>197072
>so fucking tired of idiotic American takes on European things
same. Retarded retvrn to tradition larpers on one side and schizos who see everything as racist on the other. And it influences (dumb) people here too, recently I heard someone on TV call napoleon a "white supremacist" it's all so tiresome

No. 197094

>>197063
this. and besides, "cottage-core" isn't exclusive to European/Pagan bullshit. you mean to tell me only white people had a commune lifestyle? People of the global south didn't live in farms? the "aesthetic" is actually pretty universal. people should keep their politics in check.

whats funny though is that 'cottagecore' is something both tradthots and liberals love to eat up

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>>197072
some american "historians" have a tendency to try to link everything European to Germany(or "nordic" if they're really into larping). Personally I just see cottage core as yearning for the simpler times. You can apply that to different cultures like pic-related.

No. 197106

>>197040
Spot the terminally online zoomer

No. 197108

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>>196985
>inb4 ddlg fag
I honestly like it as long as it doesn't contain too much pastel jfashion bs and centers more on the vintage-cute look. I know it was based on the movie costumes but the name is so unfortunate, should have went with cute americana or prairie thot

No. 197111

>>197040
Are you Indigenous?
I have seen division when it comes to opinions on the ~aesthetic~ as a whole but the fashion is cute imo and not as harmful as other things. Better for white girls to appreciate nature than build pipelines through Native territory, ruining drinking water and increasing the rape of Indigenous women and girls. Tradthots into it are a lost cause and will never care about these issues, but a large segment of cottagecores are "woke" lesbians/bisexuals. It's not perfect but they'll care more than the average person and in dire times that's all you can ask for.

Perhaps I'm kind of biased because me dressing like an elderly woman is kind of in at the moment and floral dresses are easier to obtain kek. The basis of the style can also be interpreted for different cultures as other anons mentioned.

I understand your perspective and respect being defensive since romanticized land ownership in the Americas is what encouraged early settlers to colonize and genocide Natives. We just have bigger fish to fry than teens having picnics and wearing frilly skirts, you know?

No. 197112

>>197040
AYRT, I'm not agreeing with you. You said it was bad that people romanticize it because they'll all move to the countryside and oppress poor Natives. I explained that the oppression of Natives has already been going on for a lot longer, and that cottagecore bringing people back to the countryside would be a positive thing for reasons explained >>196934 here.
I also did not talk about Europe, and I don't care how it is in Europe and how much better it is there. I am only and exclusively
talking about Natives in rural North America, and why the 'cottagecore is racist, actually' narrative is bullshit. Which you would know if you had any idea about any Native culture at all and actually wanted to listen to Natives and their opinions instead of trying to make yourself look cool and woke.

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>>197040
I agree with your second point, but it's an aesthetic based on european countryside, not the north american countryside. Why does it need to be seen in a north american context when that isn't the origin or inspiration for cottagecore? What do you gain from doing that?

This whole cottagecore argument is just going in circles, let the teens enjoy their fields and ponds.

Some aesthetics that worry me are the creepy sanrio ones. I really don't see the appeal.

No. 197122

>>197120
not a bpd fag and not traumatized but I see the appeal of this type of imagery, it's very simple and vague enough to be relatable to a lot of people but very expressive. Appealing to childhood memories evokes powerful emotions in many people especially if they have traume or unhappy memories they haven't gotten over yet

No. 197123

>>197120
>Why does it need to be seen in a north american context when that isn't the origin or inspiration for cottagecore? What do you gain from doing that?
Don't you know? Every fucking thing is about America and it's fucked up racial relations. Even if it was created on the other side of the world by locals, for locals.

No. 197125

can we talk about aesthetics now please?

No. 197133

>>197040
I'm pretty sure natives would not give a fuck about random zoomers taking aesthetic pics on land when there are oil companies threatening to put scars in their current home

No. 197398

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>>197094
Personally I’m into J-cottagecore, Totoropunk.

No. 197443

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As a kid I was obsessed with pixie hollow. As an aesthetic what would this be called?

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No. 197446

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excuse me?

No. 197447

>>197443
I personally would name it something like “fairy garden aesthetic” but knowing the internet it’s probably just called something stupid like “fairycore.”

No. 197449

It's narcissism, literally they just like looking at themselves and/or feeling above others for having a "style." They don't have personalities, hobbies, or interests because most are just teenagers habitually and chronically online, so they try to create one by labelling themselves ~(whatever)core~. It's why every time they find something (whether it be a piece of clothing or even a fucking song) they like that doesn't "match their aesthetic", they have to change their whole style and personhood to compensate. I've heard it's even extended to the friends you make and people you hang out with.

All in all, just fucking dress in the clothes you like without trying to make it who you are.

No. 197450

>>197449
perfectly described tbh

No. 197455

>>197446
It’s ironic that they used a pic of Devon when she claims she doesn’t smoke and used herbal cigs as a prop for movies/photos

No. 197457

>>197446
lolcow culture? kek. why does posting a smoking selfie and saying faggot needs an aesthetic name? also
>trailer park princess
cringe

No. 197459

>>197446
Lmao these zoomers don't get to decide what "lolcow culture" is.

No. 197467

>>196838
Fuckin' pipeweed. You're as bad as that Brandybuck boy.

No. 197469

>>196935
Fucking wrekt and I was about to mention the upper class French aping the peasants. Marie Antoinette had fucking silver milk churns.

No. 197577

It seems like (especially younger) zoomers have trouble making sense of anything that doesn't have a label and all of its baggage slapped on it, which makes me worried that they're unable to obtain any depth of knowledge about themselves and the world around them.
>>196860
Your post and the post you're replying to highlight how shallow and arbitrary ~aesthetic~ is; people have been living simple lives on the edge of the woods for thousands of years, and virtually everyone living simple lives on the edge of the woods has no fucking clue what "cottagecore" is, they're just living their authentic lives (and probably quite old). The idea of not only adopting a sense of fashion and interest around a certain type of obtainable lifestyle while refusing to actually live that lifestyle, but also giving it an expiration date that most of the people authentically living it have long passed, is absurd.
>>196919
This is an incredibly American post
>>197446
DELET THIS

No. 197598

>>197446
which one of you wrote this….

No. 197604

>>197598
there no way anyone who actually uses the site wrote that kek

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No. 197611

>>197604
I mean have you seen the absolute state of this fucking imageboard lately? I swear it's a newfag twitter user who decided to turn browsing lolcow into an entire personality

No. 197615

>>197446
ahahaha what the fuck i hate this generation

No. 211376

>>196876
Go back to twitter(necro)

No. 211378

>>211376
Why did you have to bump this thread, it's only going to cause more infighting

No. 211407

>>197611
Do you understand that this website is not the origin of the term "lolcow"?

No. 211798

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does anyone else find it laughable that a lot of the biggest cottagecore girls's husbands/boyfriends are just some dumpy guy?

No. 211801

>>211798
Ew this should be illegal

No. 211809

>>211798
You lust after the country life, you attract country men.

No. 211810

>>211798
Anyone that’s attached to an ~aesthetic~ has low self esteem regardless of how pretty they are so makes unfortunate sense

No. 211811

>>211810
I agree. I’m tired of all the aesthetic bs. What the fuck is twilightcore? It’s a plain fucking tee. Usually these people have no personality and can only attract men looking for a cute girl

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>>211798
>>211810
Why doesn't her aesthetic include an aesthetic farmer bf? Unbased.

No. 211824

>>211809
As a girl from the south I can confirm country life is repulsive to me and country men are the exact opposite of my type because of this

No. 211826

>>211824
i'm the anon that posted @tenderheartlamb and her fiancé and i'm in the same boat – north carolina, specifically. i think aubrey's australian, though. that's not to say there aren't rednecks everywhere, they're just different here in the south

No. 211835

I can’t take any of the aesthetic fags seriously. Didn’t the term “aesthetic” start on tumblr as a joke? I feel like it did or I’m misremembering.
>>211798
This picture just reminded me of the time I saw a sweet girl like her begging her dumpy husband to try zucchini in the grocery store. They’re the biggest manbabies.
>>211824
I’m not from the south but I wholeheartedly agree with not dating the pigs from our states/provinces.

No. 211836

>>211798
Most girls into aesthetics are usually mentally ill and the only men who are willing to deal with it are uggos who are just happy they finally got a girl that's decent looking since stable women who are attractive are unattainable for these men

No. 211842

>>211835
It didn't start as a joke, but the prevalence of "aesthetic content" did lead to a lot of parodies like the just girls things memes as an example.

>>211798
I don't understand how in shape women can lust over ugly gluttonous men who would probably scoff at the delicious healthy meal she cooked and go and demand she heat up some nuggies. Low self-esteem in women is a killer.

No. 211848

Long meandering sperg incoming.

I think the sudden surge of -cores and making a new aesthetic for absolutely every single thing under the sun has stripped alternative fashion of most of its edge, originality or bite.

It takes over subcultures and sanitizes them to fit the widest audience possible so everyone can consume it. A fairly stupid but (i think) effective example would be Tumblr, look up any fashion subculture and it won't be long until you find the tags lizzie grant, lana del rey, cottagecore, doelette, coquette and egirl. No matter what kind of fashion you look up, you're bound to find at least one of those tags repeated over and over.
It's more than likely that half of the posts won't even be related to the fashion you're looking for.

Now, it could be said that that's just because it's Tumblr, and that would be right to a certain extent, however, i can't remember a single time that this phenomenon has been so widespread. The names, aesthetic ideals and (in some cases) the values of subcultures have been watered down and altered so much that you find the same kind of content for "dark cottagecore" as you do for romantic goth or kidcore and decora, which are aesthetics that originally had nothing to do with each other.

I'm not gonna say that it's a bad thing just because i'm an oldfag and like the way things were, however the fact that these muddied definitions have become the norm in certain spaces does irk me to a certain extent, it prioritizes making a palatable experience out of things that in many cases weren't meant to be palatable.

No. 211877

>>211848
I'm sure it's also because some tags are just more popular than the others, and you are more likely to get interaction on your content if you post it in the more searched up tags.

No. 211960

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Is anyone else a former aesthetic tumblr teen? I'm in my late 20's now, and I spent basically all of 2009-2014 reblogging pictures of bloody noses and stuff.

In a lot of ways, I feel like that tumblr era was the earliest incarnation of aesthetic culture in its current form. There's always been some rate of individual scenes splitting off and becoming distinct entities (often driven by specific bands and their fans), but the tumblr tagging system encouraged a really sped up version of that process. Instead of waiting for a cohesive style of music, fashion, and slang to coalesce, you could just put together some photos of lab equipment and tag it health goth. Around 2011 is when I remember seeing the first named aesthetics, stuff like pastel goth, seapunk, and vaporwave. A lot of the current zoomer trends were present back then in nascent forms - I think there's a direct line between flip phone lindsay lohan blogs and mcbling, and I have a theory that dark academia is just rebranded hogwarts posting.

Everyone I know who was into that kind of thing has since grown out of it, which makes me believe that zoomers eventually will too. Online generated aesthetics lack depth, at the end of the day they're nothing more than a handful of photos and color palettes. Most people seem to get bored quickly and cycle through a couple of aesthetics before going back to normal. I'm curious about other people's experiences though - for people who did the aesthetic tumblr thing, what are you like these days?

No. 211961

>>211960
anon i too had (have, but post rarely and its not a real theme lol) an "aesthetic" blog since 2013 and i'm in my 20s now. my use of tumblr aesthetics and photoblogging was never as strict and formatted as most of the popular ones you'd see but i'd still use a lot of themes from subgenres of aesthetics that were popular. honestly the way i used tumblr was just to collect nice art and photos and fashion i felt looked cohesive because it was fun to scroll back onto my own blog and look at pretty things. but your point about the tags and subcultures being a jumping off point for zoomers is 100% correct i think. this new generation will definitely grow out of it like we did, but with the added complication of most of their social media usage being literal videos and photos of themselves demonstrating whatever style or trend they want to embody, it may take them longer to really move away from it since it's a physical thing now, not just pictures on a blog. thats my theory anyway

No. 211978

>>211960
At least with that "older" stuff like vaporwave and seapunk there was also a music genre attached to them. Now these aesthetics are purely based on looks and have nothing deeper to them.

No. 211979

>>211960
always hated those pastel and soft variants of alt fashion and still hate them (and the zoomer equivalents) now

No. 212303

>>211960
Former Tumblr aesthetic teens assemble.

Most of my teenage years were influenced to some degree by tumblr aesthetic posting, while the actual way i dressed/subculture i subscribed to was an older more "established" one, those blogs and trends still influenced my tastes quite a lot. I actually remember when cottagecore was just becoming a thing, like, around 30-40 blogs at most in the whole site that subscribed to it, remembering its roots and how it has changed is kinda crazy not gonna lie.

I also grew out of those aesthetics and i have no doubt it'll be the same with teens now, in fact i think most of the ones that became symbolic of tiktok are slowly dying out, they're more trends than actual subcultures after all, they're bound to disappear rather quickly.

No. 212343

>>212303
i wonder if there's any major aesthetic bloggers/instagrammers etc that have just become normies

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>>211978
Good God I miss vaporwave before it was taken over by sadbois and ironyposting. It was never about dressing or acting a certain way and you didn’t have to spend any money to get involved. All you had to do was chop and slow a sample from an overproduced 80s song and listen to it on repeat until it pushed you into a waking coma. Those were the days. Sage for nostalgic sperg.

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>>212366
We gotta bring vaporwave back girls. the culture needs it. The media higher ups keep trying to push that wannabe 2014 tumblr edge on all of us they don't know how. We gotta double down if we really want to make it happen. For the people.

No. 212380

>>212366
this. i loved the exploration involved in vapourwave, you'd find some album released by a nobody on bandcamp & you'd have it playing on repeat for days bc it hit that sweet spot. yeah it's true that in some ways it's a lazy genre but people also got really creative with their sampling & idk the music always just felt good to listen to.
it's sad though because when i try to listen to the vwave albums i used to love a lot of them just don't sound good to me anymore, the genre doesn't have the same magic. so i don't really think vapourwave can have any meaningful resurgence unless zoomers find a way to make it trendy. in the tiktok era it doesn't feel like there's room for it anymore (at least not in any genuine way)

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>>212380
I agree, recently I downloaded some of my old favorite vaporwave albums but when I listened they just sounded kind of dull.

No. 212398

>>212373
Well, vaporwave never really left, there's still hundreds of new releases coming out every week. In fact I'd say there's been a new resurgence of interest and praise for the genre. It's always been a mostly internet, slightly underground and obscure genre anyway, and that's one of the reasons I really like it.

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>>211816
Lol nonnie, this is reminding me of the Australian show "farmer wants a wife" which just had a bunch of men who looked like this ultimately in a search for their farmer tradwaifu

No. 212475

>>212366
>>212373
Don't worry, given how fast we're moving through trend cycles nowadays you'll only have to wait a couple more months till vaporwave makes its inevitable comeback

No. 212512

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Back in 2014-15 I was obsessed with soft grunge and vaporwave music. Kek, I vividly remember taking the bus to highschool while listening to 恢复/Recovery on loop, good times. I think the soft grunge style got so popular because of how simple it was, if you wore an AA pleated skirt, oversized jean jacket and dr. martens you were in. Daddy issues was the shit I remember people being obsessed with fucking lolita and léon and other old man/young girl relationship media, BPD chans were having a field day. Back in the days, the recipe to Tumblr popularity was just posting a picture of your skelly fingers holding a cigarette

No. 212513

>>211816
Probably because aesthetics are very self-centered, focused on themselves and not the ones around them?

No. 212522

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Fat stacies are rare, but they do exist!

No. 212529

>>212522
The whole core concept of a Stacey is about being conventionally attractive. I'm sorry but if you walk past a group of teen boys and they're more likely to mock you than ogle you, you're not a Stacey. You're just LARPing a Staceysona

No. 212530

>>212529
>Defining being a Stacey on whether you give teenage boys boners
That's BPD sis

No. 212535

>>212529
Your lack of confidence won’t let you be a Stacy, if you need to put down other women to feel better about yourself, you’re just a loser.

No. 212541

>>212530
Okay ignore the teen boy example. You straight up telling me you think these women >>212522 are CONVENTIONALLY attractive?

No. 212544

>>212541
Nta, they are, but let me speak to you in a language that you can understand.
>rattle rattle rattle

No. 212545

>>212522
>>212544
A Stacy would make fun of fatties though and is supposed to fit society's standards of beauty, not lc's standards. Though I don't get why this was posted in an aesthetics thread anyway.

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>>212522
Idu what it has to do with aesthetics, but that looks like your usual overweight ugly UK woman kek. If gyaru is a midly popular style, I don't see why chav couldn't be one



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