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Broad shoulders in women are good!! I used to be obsessed with Morena Baccarin in The Mentalist years ago and she has them (same as her red-headed colleague). There are a lot of beautiful women with broad shoulders and I personally do hate the nitpicking of this feature. I feel like trends and artificial ideals not rooting in biology or anything can influence people to view something as ugly that's just a plain ol' feature.
I went through some body dysmorphia but recovered mostly and it's insane how my image of my body and face kept and still keeps fluctuating.
I also feel like women sabotage their individual beauty by trying to fit into a box that may just not suit them at all or be considerably less beautiful just because they never learned to see what's good about them and I don't mean that just in a lovey-dovey self-acceptance way. You can either work against your overall looks and destroy yourself in the process with surgery or work with them. We can't all be gangnam unnies or sport baboon butt lips.
Another feature that's notoriously over-complicated is the nose. You got a big ol' nose? Better get a small button-nose that might not suit you at all and put your whole features off balance and erase your individuality.
I have prominent eye-bags and I once literally thought to myself: Daryl from The Walking Dead has huge eye-bags and he's hot, so I could still be the shit.
Oh, and I think looking for role models in actors can be good. I feel individual beauty comes across better in film and movement and in a setting and story line. Unforgiving paparazzi photos not so much.
Or real-life role models. I know a few older ladies that are graceful and gorgeous and it honestly makes me stoked for ageing and keeps me from over-thinking it.
Thank you so much, anon!!! I needed to read something like this, it is tiring looking around and only seeing things that put me down.
I will follow some people with these characteristcs on instagram to see if I can apreciate their beauty
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Same anon but I’ve always really looked up to Rossy de Palma.
I think she’s really beautiful. She’s just out there doing whatever she wants even though by gp standards, she’s “ugly.”
I want to know her secret.
>>113242>Never knew hip dip were considered ugly and a flaw before lolcow
Same, I posted about it on the dumb things thread and was glad some other anons agreed.
It's so dumb, imagine a random person came up to you on the street and said "pointy elbows are ugly now, because a some of us said so". Don't listen to that crazy shit, we have enough oppressive beauty standards to worry about before this made up stuff about our skeletons.
Also anon if your self esteem is that low it might help to avoid lolcow or at least threads with excessive nitpicking, don't torture yourself.
good one. hip dips are feminine and cute>>113209
that's not off topic at all but you sound very insecure and unhappy in your body. I agree with >>113250
lolcow doesn't have realistic expectations of women's bodies and it comes with the territory of being a ~brutally honest~ drama and gossip board where everything is viewed through a critical lense. Don't take it to heart what is posted here
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Thanks. I’m trying not to. It’s a weird I hate myself I’m ugly/I’m average and everyone else is crazy cycle though.
But it’s terrifying to read sometimes, knowing that these things could very well be someone’s actual thoughts.
I wonder who the fuck they think they’re fooling every time they scream about a potato nose.
Pic incredibly related.
OP here, that is my body type too and I also hate it. It gets to the point that when I look at the mirror to check my outfit, I always stare at my shoulders and think that any outfit is bad with them, don't know if it's worse with clothes or without.
There was a time that I was so obsessed with "looking balanced" that I wore clothes which I didn't like just to try to look like hourglass shape.
It is just ridiculous how fashion advice is to try to look like an hourglass no matter what your shape is. Nitpicking body shape in cows is also disgusting, women hating on another woman like they aren't victims
of the same opression.
Today I put away the mirror of my room to try to care a little less about appearance and I'm trying to fake confidence untill I have it for real.
Hope you get over details (not flaws) that you can't control anon :)
Above anon w/ same body type.
I’ve found that the less media I consumed, the better I feel.
I’ve completely stopped watching cable tv about 3 or so years ago and I’ve stopped using social media entirely except to follow the few friends I have or celebs I like. Even with that I try to be very selective in what I consume.
I think I started to focus more on the things I really like and that make me actually happy (depression non withstanding) because of it.
Not a complete fix but it helps, I think. Going out is still hard but at least I’m not being bombarded by heavily edited nonsense and “buy this, ugly” in my own home.
Also I got rid of the mirror in my room a year or so ago and it feels good.
Don't even want a big chest, but I feel like I should want one.
It's a weird insecurity in that it doesn't actually exist, yet I feel pressure to have it.>wide rib cage
I have proportionally larger hips, and yet I still feel bad when comparing myself to tiny-ribbed women. There's nothing I can do about this and it's absolutely fine.>downturned eyes
I think they look cute on others but I still feel ashamed and cover them up with cat eyes daily.>short legs
Not short but my legs are, I can't change this.>my fucking genitals
Took this one up last year because I don't have the perfect puffy pussy. I don't even have an outie, it's just imperfect. This is the worst because it's fucking STOOPID.
I memed myself into all of these and am ashamed. I didn't care about ANY of these even at twelve or thirteen, I just felt chunky and pimply then. Now I have all these things to worry about.>>113259>But it’s terrifying to read sometimes, knowing that these things could very well be someone’s actual thoughts.
Honestly why I never contact anyone from the friend finder.
I made a post once asking because I know someone from my uni uses this site, but I realized quickly I don't want to know her lmao.
I'm "attractive" or at least other people find me attractive but I still find flaws on myself. I have to make myself not compare myself to other women and I think I have a problem.
I find women with "ugly" features pretty, cute, even beautiful, but I nitpick myself anyway. It's like I always find something to be dissatisfied about if I don't feel attractive and let that shit go.
OP honestly, I just have to will myself not to do it and to find my confidence/feel attractive. I have a bf and that helps since it's someone to bring you up. Mine tells me he loves the features I nitpick and I'm perfect the way I am, and I can believe him. Sometimes friends can bring you up on that too, I just feel like I can trust his opinion and he isn't lying about finding me pretty.
I try to wear clothes or makeup that make me happy and feel good in my skin, not just accentuating certain features, but styles and colors that make me happy. I try to find something constructive to do instead if I spend too long criticizing myself or comparing or to find something nice about myself.>>113254
Sometimes we should detox from here, tbh. As much as I love some of /ot/ and /g/ there is too much appearance nitpicking on threads even here. The nitpicking here is ridiculous and unrealistic. It's hard not to take any of it in.>>113298
Same. I'm not normal by any means since I'm here to begin with but I don't partake in nitpicking or the really mean shit and I'm afraid to make friends here in case it's people who are like that…or like if they'd blackmail me for being here lol
I'm not and will never be a petite 100lbs again. I will always be 5'2, chunky, broad, with major hip dips, chubby legs, saggy tits, no waist and a wide ribcage. I don't know how to feel better. I feel a little better when I exercise, but then I come on here and see that I'll always be too flabby and wide and ugly, I worry people think I'm trans because I've been asked that before. I wish I was petite and feminine, not broad and wide. I take up too much space.
My body wouldn't be as bad if my face made up for it, but I have a caveman brow, small eyes and a wide nose. I don't know how to see myself objectively. I think everyone who compliments me is lying and any man attracted to me is just giving me pity. I can't even have sex anymore, I live in my imagination, pretending I'm thinner and prettier and happier. When I do leave the house, its with baggy clothing or corseting and shapewear to trick people I look feminine.
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I am not fat, by any definition, but I have recently become disgustedly obsessed with by body and appearance in a way I haven't had to deal with before. I am starving myself and taking laxatives way more than I should because I am hellbent on losing weight. (I am 5'4" and 103lbs) In public, I am aware of everything my body is doing. The way I walk. How I'm breathing. It's terribly exhausting and me worrying about it probably ends up making me look strange. My skin is the best it has looked but I am constantly worrying about it and trying new things to make it look better. I am told fairly often that I am beautiful but it just goes in one ear and out the other. I started a new job in the city surrounded by women a few years older than me who have more money to spend on nice clothing and extraneous things like Brazilian blowouts and extensions. Dwelling on online image boards out of boredom and reading a lot of negativity regarding other women probably does not help.
I never used to be this way. Even when I was 20lbs heavier I would look in the mirror and think I looked great, and I did look great. Now I just feel like some pathetic self-obsessed and hateful goblin and I cannot escape from my ever constant, scathing thoughts.
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i have always hated my body since like the age of 4 but the ways how have definitely evolved over time. i used to hate how i was chunky and tall for my age in preschool and then how i got acne and always looked greasy while my classmates didn't bc i was an "early bloomer" got added on top of that in elementary school, and then i noticed my shoulders are quite wide despite slouching (to counter the height situation) and that my very popular best friend had a cute dainty nose and a pointy chin, while i didn't in middle school, etc etc. don't think i've found any new things to hate about myself in the last years but there are only that many body parts lol. the only thing lolcow has made me more conscious about are nasolabial folds but then again i really hate my smile so it's probably an extension of that (round face with receding chin that gets pushed back when i smile, while my fat cheeks and pyro-tier nose get brought forward).
when in public, depending on how shit my mood is/how stressed i am, it feels like my body is a constantly morphing atrocious mess and i don't know how to walk and if i should move my hands etc. once i caught a glimpse of myself walking in a window and it looked like that pic of bigfoot, i almost cried. often it feels like i'm legit a different species to other women. some days i feel alright/decent looking but it goes tits up as soon as i'm out the house lol. >>113341
i honestly wanted hip dips when i was a preteen bc i thought they looked very cute and feminine lol
I used to be very conscious about they way I walked in public due to a comment a family relative said long ago.
However, I started to look more at the people around me, people on the streets walking, people walking in front of me, etc. and I realized everyone has a weird way of walking. There's a lot of people who walk with the arms stuck with glue to their sides, people who crouch a lot, people who seem to think they are on a rap-underground videoclip, people that walk like they want to pick a fight with the first person that comes in their way, etc.
Half of the time, most people won't even look at you twice unless you're a famous person, so I don't think you should be concerned about the way you walk!
lmao, it's true. The way other people walk can be ridiculous. I love when douchey looking types have an awkward over the top boss walk. It just makes me snicker at them with glee.
Or any other over the top walk
As a young girl I started watching trashy modeling casting shows and I think it poisoned my teenage mind a lot. I filmed myself walking and always hated it.
I have some posture issues I need to work on with exercise more and it all makes me super conscious of my walk often although I don't try to walk a certain fake way anymore.
The topic reminds me of walk cycles animation in film or games. The funny walks are still cute
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bigfoot anon here, soz for being annoying, but i somehow feel like the way i walk is the worst
and i immediately come across as an awkward anxious fuck because of it. it has also been pointed out to me by many relatives and even PE teacher.
the virgin walk meme fits me exactly besides wearing headphones outside. i do find solace in no stranger caring about me enough to like remember me even if they can obviously see i'm weird and awkward at a glance, but it goes out the window with like acquaintances, colleagues etc. in front of who i want to appear normal or cute.
exercising would probably help my posture (went to physio as a child for it) but i'd rather die than go to gym and in a way slouching feels safer? i'm an idiot basically
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wow that's a full on emotional spectre i managed to invoke, hopefully not too
relateable tho. i hope i am!
I was (am) a virgin walker. THere are some tips that can help you build confidence in the way you walk and all of that:
Look up at the sky. Not directly above your head, but at the horizon. You can avoid eye contact that way if you feel conscious about that, and it can help you straighten your back without realizing it. I do look at the sky and the clouds when I don't have to pay attention to crosswalks or dog shit (lol), is pretty too.
Not only the sky, but the building and trees around you can help distracting yourself from useless thoughts. You may even find something beautiful or unusual.
About eye contact, I don't know your age, but I tend to avoid looking at groups of teenagers. Those are the only ones that keep eye contact when I look at them, rest of the time adults, elders and kids don't really mind my presence.
Even people on their 20s don't do that "staring thing" some teens do.
Also, go take walks more often. Practice makes perfect. Not your walking (because there's no such thing as "the perfect way of walking") but your confidence. Once you start looking at your surroundings and go into autopilot, you won't be so conscious.
I know you can do it! I did it, even if I sometimes go back to being self-conscious, I assure you you'll start to feel detached from these type of thoughts with time!
ugh teens are the worst
, i still feel the way i did at 12 when walking past them, esp when they congregate lol. i'm a student rn (21) and surrounded by 17-23 year olds, they are a mixed bag and being on campus puts me on edge like nothing else ever. my uni goal is to manage to go study at the library (aka the most hellish location on the campus) once before graduation, still have a year to do it!
i do like walking a lot, usually get 8k steps a day or so, but i mostly do it when its dark and/or in the outskirt areas to make it less stressful, which works, going to uni or like the city centre or the shops is a completely different deal though, all my practice out the window basically. its easier in winter season bc then i can put my hands in the pockets of my jacket so i don't have to think about their movements and my body is camouflaged. this will sound mega autistic/sad but pokemon go is the one thing that has made walking around in public easier as i can focus on that instead of my bullshit and
it occupies the hands but yeah, next level pathetic.
i will def try the horizon trick, thanks! also so happy for you managing to move on to chaddom! it honestly is inspirational as i don't know anyone who struggles with this dumb shit (tbf i don't know that many people), let alone has managed to move on.
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adding a walk cycle gif to this
talk the talk, walk the walk should be a motto for socially awkward people
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just walk like this, easy breezy beautiful
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do I look good walking? Maybe no. Am I getting somewhere? Yes
There are men who like that, my ex was one of them.
I also stopped shaving (besides armpits) and it's odd how people are repulsed by it. My hairy legs are disgusting but my fathers naked, fat and hairy chest/belly are fine? So ye, I really feel you on that one
Lolcow made me realize I have nasolabial folds. I also have a weak chin that makes my face look saggy because of my strong cheekbones.
But I can live with that… Nasolabial folds though…
I’ve been under the impression that everyone has them to some degree and that it’s fine and no one really cares. Have I been wrong my whole life.
Lolcow, what is the truth.
if she thinks for a minute that men aren't assholes to the point where they will tell you they're grossed out and then
still want sex, you're mistaken. it's extremely naive to think they keep it to themselves just because ""muh dick"".
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I used to be so insecure about my armpits and looking back, it seems so idiotic and unnecessary to put myself down over that and try to have "sexy", smooth, flawless ones.
Now I only want them to be clean and healthy and couldn't worry about them less
Thank fuck that shit is over
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have this random stock photo also for no reason in particular
I never realised about those gross folds until lolcow…>>116127
You know those tiny hairs that don't go away making your armpit seem a bit darker and less smooth? They photoshop those away in pictures of models.
Talk about unattainable body ideals
I have dry skin, and comparatively to a lot of girls my age, I have a nice complexion and look very young. But still, I get these stress lines around my mouth and on my forehead, I can manage them when I am doing good and use a lot of products and creams and face masks, but I don't always have the time or motivation for that. Realistically, they don't matter and add character to my face, but somehow seeing these ultraflawless, super shiney and carved barbies on instagram everyday who look immaculate and spotless and frozen, it gets to you, and makes you think, even if you already are decent looking, "why can't I be better?"
and I realised there are so much more important things in the world. I managed to move myself away from staring in the mirror for hours and crying and grabbing at flab and editing my pictures and dreaming of plastic surgery, to just watching true crimes and documentaries and learning about real problems in the world, real things that are affecting us right now that are important to know about. And now I hardly ever think about my so called flaws. I don't do my makeup expecting it to look like a makeup artist did it and I spent 9 hours on it. I don't expect to come out looking like Rihanna or Bella Hadid at the end. I just have fun with the colours and the process and the techniques, and what I can accomplish.
People always tell me "Being tall is nice!", but I hate it so much it kills me, it's the source of all my problems in life. And the worst thing is, there's literally no way to change it. Leg-lenghtening surgery for short people exists, but there's nothing that I could do to ever be normal.
Being interested in anything asian + being on the internet a lot of course worsens that.
But maybe that's not even a non-existing flaw, because there really are a lot of people who do find tall women very ugly.
Another thing is my chest. I always thought it was small, but I guess my standard for small and the one on lolcow is different. I gained weight, also on my chest, so now I can't help but think that they're disgustingly big and saggy "udders" like so many anons love to say. Wanting to be flat again is one of my main diet motivations.
Like others mentioned before, as an ESL I've obviously never heard of nasolabial folds before - but I do have them badly. Same for jowls and cankles.
I'm also paranoid about my big hands and hairy arms, although others say (or lie to me) that it's alright.
I have a "jew" nose which I wanted to get done since I was little, and with the uprising of instagram I also noticed that I have typical white peoples lips.
Maybe I'm lucky enough to live in an ugly country, but I'd say that the skin of most girls around me is just as bad as my own. I'm always shocked what's considered haggard online, according to that I must have the skin of a middle aged smoking alcoholic.
So in conclusion I look too manly/big and old.
you cannot find something on my body that i don't hate for one reason or another, and part of it has definitely been worsened by social media and sometimes just… being around other people at all? most days i can't go out at all because i'm either comparing myself or i'm afraid people are thinking of how ugly i am when i pass by
everything about my face is fucked up, i have horrible bone structure, lips that are way too small for the rest of my face, my nose is small but completely ruined by its shape, my forehead and eye shape are screwed up. the only thing more than one person's ever even pointed out and made fun of me for before are my lips, but i believe i need more improvement than just that. i'm getting lip fillers and botox at the very least. as for my body i guess i have a "conventionally" attractive body type but unlike my face i care less about other people's opinions regarding how my body should look, as i have a very specific standard i want to reach. i have an hourglass figure and i want to be less "soft" looking and attain a healthier looking, more muscular version of the type of bodies you see on runway models, i think figures like that are absolutely perfect.
the sad thing is that i don't hold other women to my own standard and i don't think the way i want to look is the only way to be beautiful, i see beauty in everyone and i love giving compliments but when i think of it in terms of myself i'm still like "i'm disgusting if i don't look like this." i don't think i'll ever be able to stop comparing myself to others, or taking people's opinions of how i should look to heart. at the rate i am currently going i find new things about my body to hate every day. i was crying over the way my belly button looked this morning ffs. it feels like the list of things that can be "wrong" about my body are never-ending
Please don't read lolcow.
Sounds like it is severely messing up your self esteem. Everyone has nasolabial folds and those other details about them.
What are you talking about? Tall women are literally seen as graceful and desirable in almost every 1st world country. All high fashion models are tall. Every girl I know either wishes she was taller either is satisfied with her own height.
Weeb shit rotted your brain.
nta, but that's usually by other women. men go on about long legs and heels but in reality most of them want a short girl the can protecc(or abuse if they're shit heads) normies and insecure spergs get it drilled into them that they need to be tall, and that makes them shy away from dating tall women.
most of the men who have been attracted to me were either taller than me or annoying self proclaimed subs.
Thanks for defending me lol
You're exactly right, models are only a fantasy for men (plus I'm no model), irl they always prefer normal or short women.
But if it's their fantasy, doesn't that mean they want it more than actually being with short women? Maybe they just feel pressured to be with shorter women because of expectations.
I am short and honestly feel like a stump. every 'wow amazing hot woman' is always the tall model and all men salivate over them. I don't think they actually want short women, I think that's just what they think is more attainable for them
NTA but a lot of men don't go for tall women (especially those taller than them) because they feel emanciated by them.
Also I've had a lot of shorter men behave terribly towards me because they feel insecure that I'm taller.
this and this
It's not my fault they're this huge. I already went from F to D but the surgeons always suggest not to go smaller because it would look very unnatural.
Honestly, I wish they were smaller. And to all people saying oh you should be happy (especially when I was a teen), back and neck pains aren't sexy and it's certainly no fun to be oggled by old pervs when you're 14 years old at a swimming pool on vacation with your parents because of your overdeveloped boobs.
When I read that for the first time it hit me so hard. I don't even know if I really have large boobs, but it still makes me feel disgusting.
We're no longer living in the 90s, when giant bolt-ons were the
thing, nowadays small boobs are considered attractive too, so I really don't get why girls have to be so vicious against those with bigger tits than them, that's just cruel. Also, always saying that having anything bigger than a B cup means that you must be fat.
I don't know any normal women who enjoys having a large chest, it's like an open invitation for harassment.
I feel you, I wish I had small perky boobs that I wouldn't have to wear a bra for but I can only take off my bra when I'm home alone in the couch because those things bounce everywhere.
Every time I see an actress on tv without her bra I get jealous. And I never get to wear backless or strapless shirts because of the ugly supportive bra-straps. I wanted a pretty strapless wedding dress but I guess I can forget about that too.
I remember one time at girl scouts they wanted to make a bra chain and the other girls were really angry at me I didn't want to give my bra because it's really uncomfortable for me.
I also remember they used to already poke fun at my big boobs saying small boobs are better because mine would sag sooner…yeah because I totally chose to have big ones.
But I guess they feel like they have to because of the big-boob-meme but no one stops to think that naturally big breasts will usually sag.
I feel like I have the boobs of a 70-year-old lady. I feel so ashamed I'm seriously considering a boob lift and I'm not even that big on plastic surgery.
Sorry for the blog post, this hit me harder than I expected.
I feel like when a lot of people refer to men on here, they are referring to what they read/see on image boards like 4chan or elsewhere. The men posting there are in fact a minority and typically hold more than a few unpopular beliefs.
There's still a huge "THICC" trend going on IRL and most men still do rave about big(ger) tits. People who like smaller tits are either less vocal about it IRL or less prominent. Look at the porn stars who are popular now. Look who is getting liked on Instagram. They are busty women. Most men don't go on obscure east-asian-fan-culture image boards, but a lot of men DO watch porn, so what they are watching and liking there is a better determinant of what the average man likes.
Yeah basically the only time it is 'acceptable' to have small breasts is if you are Asian and you manage to find someone with yellowfever. If you are a white or black person with small breasts be prepared for men dating you regretfully and shittalking your body to their friends and online behind your back. It will be something that comes up as a problem in their mind as to whether they should commit to you. It is something you have to make up for constantly. >>116633
You have to realize that what you consider to be a mean statement is really just a cope for small breasted women.>saying small boobs are better because mine would sag sooner
This is literally the ONLY redeeming quality of small breasts towards a male sexual partner. Only other women care about the other ''''''pros''''' like being able to go braless. Imagine being considered a non-sexual creature because you don't have enough fat on your chest. Men who care about breasts would rather date a girl with big breasts that are saggy, than a small breasted girl whose breasts happen to be perky.
Yeah I know it sucked that men already looked at you at 14 or whatever all women with big boobs say. You know what also sucks? When you are straight and even as an adult men won't look at you. They cannot even have sex with you facing them because the things on your chest are a constant sad reminder of you being inadequate. If you are a sexual straight adult you would want to be recognized as such. You don't realize what it is like to just not even be a consideration.
Also do women with big breasts realize they are allowed to let their body go more? If you have big breasts a little chubby tummy is fine. You have small breasts? You better have a very tight body with not a little bit of fat and preferably a humongous round ass to make up for the sad excuse of breasts that are in the front. You have to be an absolute goddess if you want to make up for having small boobs. Meanwhile men will consider a girl with a busted face and tubby body hot as soon as she has big breasts.
It are mainly only women who have something against saggy big breasts, (mature) men just see it as a feature of big breasts. If you are straight, it are not other women you have to impress with your tatas.
all the arguments you just used all come down to "but men like big boobs", it makes it seem like the only reason you want big boobs.
yeahhh I'd rather have a pleasant and healthy body for myself than to please some shallow guy who can't look past my breasts.
I'd rather not have back and neck pains, no sagginess (it occurs A LOT sooner than you'd think btw and life doesn't stop after 25) and the ability to wear anything.
>big breasted girls are allowed to get fat
well you don't want big ones either unless you want to stick to one type of clothing and have the other types of clothing make you either look like a whore or a sack of potatoes.
And if you want to wear something with an open back or shoulders you'll have to choose between ugly thick bra straps or even uglier mega-sag.
>>116689>This is literally the ONLY redeeming quality
The only redeeming quality is that they look better both in clothes and without? That's a big plus imo.
>If you are a white or black person with small breasts be prepared for men dating you regretfully and shittalking your body to their friends and online behind your back. It will be something that comes up as a problem in their mind as to whether they should commit to you.
So the only guys who will care are unga booga emotional abusive
guys? Why would you care about attracting them in the first place? Love yourself.
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Anon please see >>116695
, small boobs don't look nice in clothes at all and you can only make them work if you have the required petite dainty frame for it. Small is not the same thing as medium. >>116692>>116698
Men don't just like big boobs, on average they require them. So maybe most men are then shallow and straight women just have very little to choose from. They might be able to look past it if you have something like medium. Though that won't stop them from complaining about your body left and right, comparing your chest to every big breasted woman he comes across and secretly wishing he had a little bit more to squeeze.
If you have small boobs men will regretfully date you and try to look past it. They do not have to be shallow for that. Soon the symptoms will start to show. They can only do doggy, they get soft if you are on top, they aren't even interested in taking your shirt off. Soon enough you notice they lose sexual interest entirely and you are the one constantly trying to initiate. And that is if you found someone who is not addicted to porn. If you are with someone who does watch porn, you can expect to get negative comments about your size to your face. Not even the courtesy of doing it behind your back. Maybe even offerings of money for plastic surgery because obviously the way you are currently, you are unlovable.
The porn addicts might be abusive
. The average joe though who just happens to sexually prefer big breasts due to decades of conditioning and natural selection and cannot help but wish his inadequate girlfriend had bigger breasts is not abusive
for committing 'wrong think'. Them venting their frustrations to the world is not necessarily abusive
. It is not strange that they would want a partner they are fully sexually attracted to and that they are frustrated that they feel like they have to settle.
With big boobs btw I don't mean huge, I mean bigger than medium. Please click the picture for reference.
Also newsflash: many girls with small boobs have saggy boobs too.
I also did not day that big breasted girls are allowed to get fat, you are allowed to have a higher fat percentage and get called thicc for it. You get applauded for it. A girl with smaller boobs with that same healthy range fat percentage, with that same tummy, is considered chubby. There is a reason why small boobs are only ''allowed'' on skinny underweight Asians. Ever seen small boobs on a taller, broader, healthy weight woman? It does not look good.
You're making me feel suicidal anon and I wasn't even super insecure about my chest before this.
Amen to that.
Small breasts are terrible. It is a little bit better if you are a pear shape, because you can wear at least nice skirts or dresses to look feminine, but as a rectangle or banana or the hell this body is named. You have lost. Sure if you are tall you can go for the elf look as elegant and pure being. But if you happen to be small, no curves whatsoever, the only type of guys who like you are desperate ones or loli fetishist (And those only if your face looks young).
I was told that i would be ideal to date if i had bigger boobs and/or more curves, because as i am now i am seen more as a little boy than a date mate.
It doesn't matter what i wear, it always looks like a child tries to wear adult clothing. It is just sad.
I want bigger breast because i think it looks so much nicer, not only because i want to be seen as attractive.
I don't want to denie that women with bigger breasts have a lot of problems. Especially being seen as overly sexy and stuff. Or their back problems.
For them it is hard to understand how it is to have no, or little boobs. But it is the same for small boobs women, we don't see the problems they have.
Your image isn't showing big saggers, anon. Of course large perky breasts are best. The people here are talking about actual big boobs that sag, are covered in stretch marks, and hang like fucking tennis balls in socks. Stock playing the victim
because you have small normal looking non-deformed breasts. It's not right to nitpick women with large breasts just because you are an insecure chestlet. You don't see insecure big boobed girls constantly nitpicking small boobs on lolcow, just the opposite. And no, big boobs do not mean you can be fat. You are so ridiculous.
>>116708>big boobs do not mean you can be fat
I think small boob anon is crazy insecure and mostly divorced from reality, but I do think there's some truth to that. You can't be a landwhale but you can be a soft or chubby and still look conventionally attractive. With small boobs you really cannot get away with any excess fat, especially around your mid section. It's thin, toned or athletic or you look like shit.
Anyway I'm not arguing with anything else you said, I just know that I'm happy with my small boobs but not with my slightly chubby tummy/hips. Yet if my boobs were big, I would be fine with my tummy because it'd be proportionate and an overall curvy look.
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It's all about proportion. Take two average women of similar height and weight, the one with larger bust will appear more "in proportion". I wouldn't say they appear necessarily "skinnier" but people of a heavier weight with small boobs look out of proportion, and that's really what the issue comes down to. Hourglass figure with large bust is a lot more forgiving to excess weight than any other figure.
Fuck. I really struggled with this. I had a-cups all throughout high school and first year of college. Definitely in middle school it was the worst, but even freshman year of college boys would make underhanded comments when discussing my appearance "I like them a little thicker", "I've got bigger boobs", etc.
I'm in a complete 180 now. My boobs recently grew (not sure if it's genetic or what, my mom also doubled her cup size in her twenties) and I weigh less than I did in high school.
It's stupid, but now I feel embarrassed because my boobs are actually pretty big on my small frame. Looks weird in dresses. Plus, I am an inverted triangle so they look out of proportion with my narrow hips. I impishly posted a nude a few months ago online and people accused me of having fake tits, so I guess that's a sign they look stupid.
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how can any of you say that small boobs are hated when two of the most popular adult porn stars/camgirls I know of, stoya and ashe maree, are skinny small breasted white girls. And these are women who appeal to normie men, not just the yellowfever pedo types.
I’m self conscious of my breasts and body type too because I’m rectangle shaped without a round ass, perky breasts or a defined waist, but men are capable of being attracted to women who aren’t extreme hourglasses with F cups.
literally W H O
look who millions more are liking and commenting on social media and none of them look like that.
Stoya is a household name anon, I don't even like porn and I know her.
It's true that the bubble butt and implant looks is the mainstream norm but the majority of men are just happy with any kind of naked woman in front of them irl unless it's an actual skeleton or morbidly obese. Guys who are commenting publicly on porn stars instagram aren't who you want to appeal to anyway.
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Stoya was a huge pornstar that was ALL OVER tumblr in 2012-2014. Ashe Maree is considered a top cam model, she’s all over twitter. I’m pointing out that these women are successful in the adult industry and obviously men are attracted to them despite them not being extremely busty.
Sasha Grey is another popular former adult star who doesn’t have huge breasts or implants.
I Have to partly agree with this ano.
It is not what men think it is more what I think looks better. For me women with bigger breasts looking much more attractive than women with small breasts. That is why I think the women from >>116716
are not very attractive.
And this ano is right. >>116725
Beauty trends Change fast.
But back to the main topic.
My nose was never a problem for me until I a friend showed me a photo of me and my nose was so much bigger than the ones of my friends. Since then I can't help it but feel insecure about it.
It's not worth worrying what men like, as long as the men in your life treat you with kindness, you're fine. If not, maybe it's time to cut them off. I'm fairly small breasted and my very hetero boyfriend loves mine: he thinks they're "just right" and that they look proportionate to my body. He doesn't talk shit on my boobs, he doesn't want me to get implants.
Overall men may prefer "medium" or slightly large boobs, but a lot of non-pedo men like smaller breasts because they look nice/streamlined, they tend to stay perky, and they don't get in the way. Trying to generalize isn't worthwhile. Men just like tits. If a man is shitty to you about yours, dump him.
But even instagram thiccies have average boobs with big buts and when they do have big boobs (+pornstars) they're usually extremly perky. Every man around me actually prefers average or smaller breasts and I don't run in weeb circles but more like… "contemporary art gallery" circles.
Most men who like big tits are 45 years old or older, or they're young but they're trailor trash.
It always baffles me when farmers nitpick about things cows cant change. Like ok nitpick about her tattoos or her plastic surgery or her weight but why do you gotta nitpick about big breasts or saggy breasts ? And when you dare to complain you're always welcomes with "You can still have plastic surgery" as if plastic surgery is expected of women to correct all their flaws. Some of us are ideologically opposed to PS, some of us are too broke for PS, some of us have conditions that make it extra dangerous to do PS. >>116699
But the "Large" image isnt even that large. I would kill to have those boobs but I wear a 30H bra size. Also larger breasts look this perky extremly rarely.
This just proves what I said. The only way small breasts are considered acceptable is if the woman who has them has a very small dainty frame and is verry skinny and barely has any fat on her. At that point it just looks in proportion.
Again, there are people out there of average height, average frame, at a healthy weight, with still itty bitty boobs or none at all. Do you realize how fucking strange that looks? >>116746
Yeah and if you are a straight woman you are sadly stuck with dating men and their opinion does dictate whether you ever get to be appreciated in a relationship or ever get married.>>116754
You are probably the exact bodytype I described then. Short, skinny, dainty frame. Try having small boobs while being average height, broad frame, and a normal healthy weight. It won't look worshipable. >>116765>>116708
That is my point, to women with small boobs or non existent ones, that is already huge. That is unattainable. Another anon was saying that big boobs = unhealthy, without understanding what I meant with big breasts. I sincerely doubt that the example I posted is backbreaking heavy.
Also to everyone saying I am divorced from reality, no I am not. I do not need to cater to all men. The fact is that there isn't a sane man out there who specifically has a fetish for unfortunate body types like looking like a reddit tranny while being a biological woman. Great for all the anons who very likely have a dainty cute bone structure and who look streamlined and athletic with small breasts, you have the exact bodytype I outlined in my post explaining when it is 'excused'. I do not need men in my life that treat me with kindness, I do not need male friends. I would rather stay the fuck away from them but I have this problem that I am straight and I am going to need at least one. You cannot fuck a friend, I just need 1 man who genuinely wants my body. Not one who uses platitudes like 'they're just right for your body', or 'I love you the way you are', but then still oggles and secretly wishes I looked different behind my back. Already said they don't even need to be shitty to my face about it for it to bother me, I do not like the sneaky behaviour of dating me and then acting like I am a huge offense and harming them by not having breasts while they knew that beforehand. Like I said it is not a thought crime or shallow or abusive
when they plain and simple just cannot get it up, but stay with me because of my personality. That shit still hurts despite them being 'nice'. And I also do not just want to stay single the rest of my life and have one night stands which are essentially pity fucks. I wish I could be a lesbian or asexual honestly because I hate dealing with men and their sneaky petty bullshit.
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Try to convince me that men would find Kate Upton even slightly hot if she was flat chested. Currently she is seen as a sex icon. Go ahead.
I never had a problem with my body until I found out that even the 'nice guys' lie. 'They look right on you', 'I love your body because it is yours and I love you'. It is such a fucking gut punch when they don't even have to use words to tell you your breasts are lacking. You just have to take your shirt off and the boner disappears, that is how you know. And then you see women with a similar body type who are lauded as sex goddesses, and why? Just the boobs. And they will talk to their friends about it. It isn't even to your face. It hurts all the same.
Again, it's all about proportion.
Small boobs look good on small frames. Small boobs look like shit on bigger frames.
Massive boobs don't look good either because they are out of proportion. >>116699
Option B looks best here because it's proportional. All of us are innately drawn to proportion. We prefer symmetry in our partners, it is a sign of good genetics (though not actually always true). Even OTT huge ass and tits with a tiny waist looks good because it is still, in its own way, proportional and appealing.
A girl who weighs 165 lbs with B cup is going to look less proportionate than a girl of the same weight with d cups. But once you start going past that, the boobs get out of proportion with the body and more weight causes them to sag. C cup and D cup can avoid sagging, and depending on the body type they look BIG.
Small titted larger girls and girls with massive tits suffer in similar ways. I don't think it is fair to pit either against the other, because both of their problems are coming from an innate lack of self-love and caring too much about what other people think of them.
I am not dating virgins.
They have even dated women in their 30's with way more stretch marks and cellulite than I have. And at least they can get it up for that, because big saggy boobs are better than none at all. I don't even get involved with anyone who consumes porn btw. >>116771
Did you read everything I wrote? >while they knew that beforehand
I even warn them before I even get romantically involved with them that there is nothing going on underneath my shirt. I do not even wear a bra or anything that could mimic breasts. Still it seems to be a surprise to them. >>116777>>116779>>116780
Yeah more self love is not going to fix the fact that I am so unattractive from the front, men immediately lose their erection. The only way I can interact with a penis is if I stay fully clothes and just give blowjobs apparently. I don't care about what lolcow thinks of my body or anyone else. I just need 1 (ONE) man who can keep an erection around me without needing viagra or hitting it from the back with closed eyes while imagining someone else. Self love is not going to fix the fact that apparently it is too much to ask to have loving sex while someone looks me in the eyes and isn't thinking about anyone else. My frame cannot even be fixed by weightloss, even at a BMI 16, a barrelchest is a barrelchest, huge broad shoulders are huge broad shoulders and honestly I just look even more fugly when I am not a healthy weight. I do not need everyone to love me or drool over me, I just need 1 penis to fully function around me that's all.
get help. honestly if people have that reaction to you and it's not in your head you are probably just extremely ugly. you sound like neckbeards with BDD who have insanely skewed ideas about what women find attractive. i am 30 years old and have a 32B cup and have fucked atleast 40 guys in my life, most of which were more than one night stands.
sorry to break it to you, but the big boobed stacies aren't ruining men for you. it's either in your head or something else is wrong.
You're in a nonexistent flaws thread but sound like you're trying to say that your flaws are real and relevant?
Also breasts are pretty attractive to most people and a celebrity is someone you'll never know personally so all you have
is their body to sexually objectify. That's just what a celebrity is for. They sell you products with their sex appeal.>>116787
Resenting people for having nice breasts isn't the way to go.
also how tf do you know how much cellulite these women had?
fuck me. this is the real femcel shit.
>>116788> flaws in our appearance that we didn't notice before or wouldn't care untill someone said it's a flaw
this is in the OP, like I said, I did not have a problem with my body until I realized how much of a turn off I am. >>116787
My face is slightly above average, it is mainly my body that is ugly apparently. If it was all in my head I would have had problems with my body before it started to dawn on me that nobody can keep an erection with me while actually being 'with' me and not in their thoughts with someone else. >>116789
I was shown pictures, they are on friendly terms with their exes.
For dudes erectile dysfunction can be very shameful(especially if porn induced) and if they’re assholes they’d rather have you think that you’re the issue and not them, wondering if that’s the case here? Because unless you’re using bombshell pushups men can still tell if someone has small boobs even with clothing on. And porn ED is unfortunately not uncommon for young men nowadays.
As for my contribution to the thread, hip dips. When I was younger I remember thinking that it wasn’t my prettiest feature because it made me look fatter than I actually was, but I wasn’t insecure about it. But nowadays with super exaggerated curves ala Kim K being in(this only recently became a thing in my country, a few years ago pretty much everyone laughed at it), I realized that hip dips make me look way less curvy even though I actually have a good waist to hip ratio when measuring.
All of them were very vocal about hating porn, or could that be a cover up method? >>116804
Happened even after 2 years into the relationship, I can pin point the exact moment they get soft and it almost always coincided with me taking clothes off. The first few times I shrugged if off but when it keeps happening it must be my fault at that point.
you literally have BDD, go get help. please. i can't deal with watching you make excuses for everything.
i could suggest maybe any of them are actually gay and you will claim every one of them got genetically tested against it or some wild shit.
Do you dress to mask your hip dips in some way? I wear a lot of a-line skirts and loose fitting pants and it makes me look a lot better.>>116807
Could absolutely be a cover up thing. Did they also claim not to watch porn? Because if so, almost all of the guys that try to do nofap do it because they have experienced some form of issues, usually ED. But It could of course also just be that they don’t want to admit that they like porn because of the social stigma.>>116811
Wow, they’re definitely assholes if they shit talk your body to their friends, unless they’re like..thirteen and really don’t know better.
Anyway even if you don’t have bdd or something, therapy probably wouldn’t hurt.
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I used to obsess over my big nose as if it was the ultimate proof of my ugliness, took me a while to realize that yes I have a big nose, but it kinda fit my face. I would probably look more harmonious with a smaller nose, but most people don't really gaf about it and it doesn't prevent me from looking decently cute. We shouldn't just look at one feature isolated, ScarJo has a bigger kinda pigish nose and she still looks gorgeous IMO.
anon, fuck off. the problem is your attitude. ffs, this is supposed to be a thread to try to get confidence, not wallow in your own self-distruction.
if anything your attitude probably turned everyone off more than anything. i wouldn't want to have sex with someone this obsessed with being insecure.>>116816
please stop trying to reason with her.