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No. 74893

what's your opinion?

i personally would rather have sweaty men fap to fictional characters than act upon their fantasies. but, it can be a lengthy discussion, so what do you think farmers?

No. 74920

>>74893
I think its against the site rules.

No. 74928

Keep images PG please.
https://lolcow.farm/rules

2.Do not post sexually suggestive 2D or 3D images of minors, or any other image that could be construed as serving to appeal to pedophiles, even if the images are not technically illegal in the US. This obviously means no nude images of people under 18, and also includes clothed "child models", and nude or clothed "loli" and "shota".

No. 74940

>>74893
I just hate when people get so paranoid about it. Like oh noes there's an Anime girl on my browser I'll go to jail thanks to you sick fucks, and shit like that.

No. 74954

i didn't make this thread to see naked lolis, you can just google that shit. i've just seen discussion/arguing about this in older threads in the catalog so i made a thread

No. 74959

I think its super gross, but if its gonna give disgusting pedophile fucks an outlet other than actual human children, make as much of it as they want.

Its creepy as shit to see little girls drawn as slavering submissive sex kittens but its better they draw it and fapped over the fantasy. It seems to have worked for Japan.

No. 74964

>>74954
I think Farmhand was just covering their bases.

To be honest, I don't really see anything wrong with loli or shota. I mean, look at the girl in OP. She's clearly meant to be more petite and give a childish vibe but…she doesn't really look like a kid. Even when they say their ages in anime/hentai/whatever it doesn't really change the fact that they still don't seem like "kids."

Pedophiles get off on kids because of their innocence and how easy it is to groom a child. They are predators. Lolicon and shotacon…are really just more into the cuteness/smallness and vague childish traits it seems.

I guess I would consider myself a shotacon although my interest in shota who look like very young boys tends to go only as far as "he's so cute" and if I venture into anything pornographic the character tends to be portrayed as older middle school/younger high school, which is frankly not different than much regular straight hentai but it gets labeled as shota.

I battled with it A LOT because of the stigma against shota/loli (not like I tell everyone I meet or anything, but you know), but I frankly don't have any interest in actual young boys even remotely. I don't have any interest in anyone more than a few years younger than me. I don't really see any relation agewise between my interest in shota and real life other than some vague characteristics that are not necessarily pedophilic: youthful, cute, playful, naive, smaller physique, etc.

It gets a little fuzzy the more realistic they are. Toddlercon is pretty sick to me because those characters are drawn with toddler-like proportions, and I think there are distinctly groups of people who are into just lolicon/shotacon and then also toddlercon. I have also come across 3d renders of realistic children (on major porn sites, no less) and that's pretty unsettling and I think definitely stems from a desire to fuck children.

So long story short, I think it depends on who you ask re: the motivation for enjoying such things. But I don't necessarily think it's wrong as long as it's fiction.

No. 74968

>>74893
I can see how this kind of content could satisfy some of the urges pedos have, but the issue I have is what these images have the potential to create.

There have been many studies (unfortunately I can't search for them right now) that have supported the theory that excessively watching porn, reduces the interest in the original material that viewers were watching, and leads them to search for something more intriguing. Some people have ended up watching cp because they wanted/"needed" to see something to stimulate them because they'd already watched the "regular" stuff.

I'm just worried that people who fap to loli/shota will eventually give into their real urges because the fake stuff just doesn't do it for them anymore, especially considering they only watched them as a deterrent.

I'm also afraid of people getting used to seeing loli and shota despite not being pedos. I used to follow people on tumblr who I eventually discovered were in their teens and who claimed they loved shota, and the kind where the people look 4 or 5. I hate to think of these people normalizing an interest in people that young, especially when they already claim age is just a number.

No. 74973

>>74968
Honestly I think tumblr teens like loli and shota as a means of being edgy. It's like weeaboo edgy. A lot grow out of it. But the "age ain't nothin but a number" shit has been popular with teenagers forever. I don't think most of them think it's OK to fuck a 4 year old.

No. 74990

>>74973
Obviously. I'm talking about those that find shota/loli normal despite the image being of what looks like a toddler being degraded just because "age is just a number," and people shouldn't kink shame.

I usually attributed the phrase age is nothing but a number to teens who want to date someone older and older people who want to date someone much younger, but not younger than their teens. Rarely have I come across a teen that wants to date/be intimate with someone much younger.

I think a lot more people are finding it ok to sexualize kids (despite this being normal hundreds of years ago). Some do just want to see innocent cute pictures, but when I come across someone calling sexually explicit pictures cute, I call bullshit.

No. 74993

For one, animu bitches all look basically the same, but it doesn't phase me. The only thing that does bother me is that it perpetuates the stereotype of purity/virginity being the most important thing. In most loli stuff the object is more to violate the purity than 'fug children' which is different than say pedo, which is a legit medical condition that has to do with brain chemistry issues. I don't really think it's terrible necessarily, because that would give false autonomy to cartoons, which is a dangerous line to tread, but I do think that in Japan it is looked on as being normal. Especially since shit like Kodomo no Jikan is shown on tv for fucks sake. A lot of people justify it with what OP said about allowing pedos to fap to fantasies, but it's a separate culture in Japan, just as 3d vs 2d attraction is in general. All in all it's a scary line to tread either way, but I think it has it's good points when applied correctly, however the issue is treating pedophilia as a disease needing treatment rather than some sort of perverse kink needing to be shamed.

No. 74996

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Age really means nothing in anime, if anyone has been paying attention to it at all. Pic related is 14, and there are other characters on the other end of the spectrum who look like 10 but are much older. You can make a character look any sort of way and say "oh they're 18" and it's not any more or less believable than any other anime characters.

I get that "loli" is more where they are explicitly meant to look like little girls (if not explicitly said to be little girls) but I don't know, it's just not the same as real CP in my opinion.

I don't think it's a good treatment for pedophiles. People are kidding themselves if they think that. They have deeper issues that aren't going to be sated by anime girls in lewd positions. It's also fucking stupid to think that lolicon is gateway drug to irl CP. If you're seeking out lolicon because you want to actually look at CP, you're going to look at CP anyway. If you're seeking out lolicon because why not, then you're probably just going to look for some other kind of niche hentai when you get bored of it.

I think there is an element of kink in lolicon or simulated CP (which to me would be like…the girls like Himeka who dress like 12 year olds) that is not present in genuine pedophilia. Whereas pedophilia is a disease, romanticizing and lusting after childhood AS A CONCEPT is different.

But all kinks are some level of depraved.

No. 74997

As long as it's 2d who cares

No. 75022

>>74996
yoko isn't 14, she's around 20

No. 75030

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>>75022
Her age is not confirmed. Anywhere from 14-21.

Here's Asuka. She's definitely 14. My point still stands.

No. 75037

As long as they don't touch or interact with kids in that way then I can look the other way, but don't expect me to take you seriously after admitting to me that you like prepubescent cartoon children sexually, from that point it's my word against theirs on whether they want to act out these desires irlyou'll have to excuse me if I don't place much trust in pedophiles.

No. 95211

>>75037
lolicons aren't pedophiles.

No. 95219

It only deepens the neural pathways that associate children with sex. It reinforces pedophilia, don't fool yourself.

No. 95221

>>95211
>bumping a 2 month old thread to defend your cp cartoons
Butthurt pedo confirmed

No. 95399

>>95211
Yeah, watch yaoi then, I'm sure it's not gay.

No. 95405

>>95219
Have to agree with this anon. It's like the old screaming into a pillow/breaking something when you're angry thing, it actually just makes it worse. There's no such thing as "Releasing" an emotion, the connection between the feeling and the reaction is just solidified, and it's more likely that you'll start automatically doing the behaviour when you feel the emotion.

No. 95406

>>95211
Whatever you say, pedo-kun.

No. 95816

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>>95399
you can be into yaoi and still be straight. See traps.

No. 95817

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>>95816
>Someone with a penis liking something with a penis
>not gay

No. 95820

I don't think pedos like anime lolis or lolicons like real little girls. It looks like two diferent mental problems.

No. 95823

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>>95816
Why is it so hard for people to admit they're at least a little bit gay, u guys need to love urselfs man, nothing shameful about occasionally dabbling in a bit of cartoon sodomy.

No. 95840

>>95817
If you had sex with a hermaphrodite would that be gay? Traps are men but hermaphrodites are both genders and I'm sure not everyone who has sex with them is bisexual.

No. 95842

>>95840
Is it a man body or a female body? Either way it's not straight unless you completely ignore the other genital and avoid thinking about it as much as possible. If you're trying to make a futa comparison then definitely not. Futa pics focus on dicks way more than even yaoi drawn by actual gay men does.

>>95823
Also this, no one is saying you love super hairy manly men or would even like 3d guys, but if it has a dick and you like it it's not straight 2d or 3d. No if, ands, or buts.

No. 95845

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>>95219
>It only deepens the neural pathways that associate children with sex. It reinforces pedophilia, don't fool yourself.

You seem determined to loosen the neural pathways between the areas of the brain that differentiate fantasy from reality. By comparing real children to fake children, you could be causing people who are into lolicon to make a connection they might not have otherwise made before. By saying that fictional acts have any baring on the real world you might end up causing more people to become out of touch with reality, when they might have kept fantasy and reality very separate before.
>>95221
>Butthurt pedo confirmed

No, an advocate of free speech. Lolicon really doesn't do anything for me personally, but if people want to get off to weird, deranged shit, that's their business. I don't see anyone trying to get guro or furry porn banned, even though they're depicting illegal acts (murder/torture/bestiality).

No. 95846

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>>95845
Imo it depends on the type of loli. There's the just an average anime girl without the huge boobs kind and then there's the you're a guaranteed pedo if you fap to this kind. But yes, it does increase your feeling towards it the more you do it. It applies to literally everything.

No. 95847

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>>95846
vs this kind of loli that's literally just an anime girl without breasts.

No. 95849

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>>95846
>But yes, it does increase your feeling towards it the more you do it. It applies to literally everything.

I play violent videogames and watch violent movies, but I don't have any urges to kill people. Modern society is a lot less violent than it was years ago.

>There's the just an average anime girl without the huge boobs kind and then there's the you're a guaranteed pedo if you fap to this kind. But yes,


I don't really mind flat girls, but I still don't like little girls, so not a pedo. (Any nipples are good nipples to me) The thing that turns me off about lolis is mental immaturity/stupidity. I just don't like stupid people, and kids are pretty stupid . A lot of guys are into women with mature curvy bodies but who are also completely vapid and act childish and naive, probably because they want to feel smarter than someone or because stupid people are easier to manipulate. Those kinds of people have never sit well with me. James Woods is one of them.

No. 95852

>>95849
See >>95847 That's what I mean by the non-pedo kind. When I say pedo loli I mean "toddlercon" aka the undeniably pedo kind where it's a loli the size of a toddler in comparison to the male partner and very obviously a young child. I'm not going to post it an get banned, but search for loli on gelbooru/ex-hentai and you'll eventually find some.

The feeling not the desire to. If you play video games when mad to "relieve stress" it will only strengthen that connection. It's the same with porn in general, men who consumed violent porn were less likely to care about rape victims and more likely to say rape was okay.

I posted it in the porn thread but I can post here if you want? It is long though.

No. 95853

>>95849
>>95852
Here's part of it. I can post the rest if you still won't believe studies.

"Porn, Violence and Rape

88.2% of top rated porn scenes contain aggressive acts principally spanking, gagging, and slapping, while 48.7% of scenes contained verbal aggression, primarily name-calling.

- In 70% of occurrences, a man is perpetrator of the aggression; 94% of the time the act is directed towards a woman.

- Only 9.9% of the top selling scenes analyzed contained behaviors such as kissing, laughing, caressing, or verbal compliments.

- Open-hand slapping occurs in 41.1% of scenes.

- Sex depicted in porn movies generally focuses on men’s sexual pleasure and orgasm, rather than equally that of women’s (Bridges and Wosnitzer, 2007)

Porn scenes have sexist and racist themes through out. Websites often contain menus where users can select genres of women’s ethnicities, body types, and ages. There are also choices such as “amateur,” “interracial”, and the ever popular “teen” category. Men and women who are anything other than white are represented in stereotypical and demeaning ways.

Studies show that after viewing pornography men are more likely to:

- report decreased empathy for rape victims

- have increasingly aggressive behavioral tendencies

- report believing that a woman who dresses provocatively deserves to be raped

- report anger at women who flirt but then refuse to have sex

- report decreased sexual interest in their girlfriends or wives

- report increased interest in coercing partners into unwanted sex acts (Bridges, 2006) (Yang, Gahyun, 2012).

In a meta-analysis of 46 studies published from 1962 to 1995, comprising a total sample of 12,323 people, researchers concluded pornographic material puts one at increased risk of:

- developing sexually deviant tendencies (31% increase in risk)
- committing sexual offenses (22% increase in risk)
- accepting rape myths (31% increase in risk)

Among perpetrators of sex crimes, adolescent exposure to pornography is a significant predictor of elevated violence and victim humiliation.

In a study of 30 college fraternity members on a small liberal arts campus, the displayed images of women (in posters, screensavers, calendars, pin-ups, and advertisements) were analyzed for their frequency and degrading nature. There was a significant association between the average degradation ratings of the images and the student’s rape-supportive attitude scale (RSA)

In a study of 187 female university students, researchers concluded early exposure to pornography was related to subsequent “rape fantasies” and attitudes supportive of sexual violence against women. Researchers believe pornography consumed at a young age contributes to women being socialized to accept sexual aggression as a sexual/romantic event.

In 2004 data was collected from interviews with 271 women participating in a battered women’s program. Pornography use by their partner significantly increased the odds of women being sexually abused by their abusers. When their abuser used both alcohol and pornography, the odds of sexual abuse increase by a factor of 3.2.

Arrested prostitution clients are twice as likely to report having watched pornographic movies over the past year than a national sample.

Japanese males were divided into three groups and each exposed to different types of home video pornography: a positive rape film (where the female expressed pleasure), a negative rape film (where the female expressed pain), or a consenting sex film. Those who viewed the positive rape film were significantly more likely to state that women could enjoy rape and higher percentages of rape cases are invented by victims.

In a study of 804 Italian adolescents, ages 14 to 19 years old, viewing pornography was correlated to both active and passive sexual violence and unwanted sex.

“Women are represented as passive and as slavishly dependent upon men. The role of female characters is limited to the provision of sexual services to men. To the extent that women’s sexual pleasure is represented at all, it is subordinated to that of men and is never an end in itself as is the sexual pleasure of men. What pleases women is the use of their bodies to satisfy male desires. While the sexual objectification of women is common to all pornography, women are the recipients of even worse treatment in violent pornography, in which women characters are killed, tortured, gang-raped, mutilated, bound, and otherwise abused, as a means of providing sexual stimulation or pleasure to the male characters.” - Helen Longino

Research indicates that 25% to 30% of male college students in the United States and Canada admit that there is some likelihood they would rape a woman if they could get away with it. (Briere and Malamuth, 1983)

In a study of high school males, 50% of those interviewed believed it acceptable “for a guy to hold a girl down and force her to have sexual intercourse in instances such as when ‘she gets him sexually excited’ or ‘she says she’s going to have sex with him and then changes her mind’” (Goodchilds and Zellman, 1984)

“I went to a porno bookstore, put a quarter in a slot, and saw this porn movie. It was just a guy coming up from behind a girl and attacking her and raping her. That’s when I started having rape fantasies. When I saw that movie, it was like somebody lit a fuse from my childhood on up… I just went for it, went out and raped.” Rapist interviewed by Beneke, 1982

The following statements were made by women testifying at the Hearings on Pornography in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in 1993 (Russell, 1993a).

- Ms. M testified that, “I agree to act out in private a lot of the scenarios that my husband read to me. These depicted bondage and different sexual acts that I found humiliating to do…He read the pornography like a textbook, like a journal. When he finally convinced me to be bound, he read in the magazine how to tie the knots and bind me in a way that I couldn’t escape. Most of the scenes where I had to dress up or go through different fantasies were the exact same scenes that he has read in the magazines.”

- Ms. O described a case in which a man ‘brought pornographic magazines, books, and paraphernalia into the bedroom with him and told her that if she did not perform the sexual acts in the “dirty” books and magazines, he would beat her and kill her’

- Ms. S testified about the experience of a group of women prostitutes who, she said, ‘were forced constantly to enact specific scenes that men had witnessed in pornography…These men… would set up scenarios, usually with more than one woman, to copy scenes that they had seen portrayed in magazines and books. [For example, Ms. S quoted a woman in her group as saying:] “He held up a porn magazine with a picture of a beaten woman and said, ‘I want you to look like that. I want you to hurt.’ He then began beating me. When I did not cry fast enough, he lit a cigarette and held it right above my breast for a long time before he burned me.”

- Ms. S. also described what three men did to a nude woman prostitute whom they had tied up while she was seated on a chair: “They burned her with cigarettes and attached nipple clips to her breasts. They had many S and M magazines with them and showed her many pictures of women appearing to consent, enjoy, and encourage this abuse. She was held for twelve hours while she was continuously raped and beaten.”

- Another example cited by Ms. S: “They (several Johns) forced the women to act simultaneously with the movie. In the movie at this point, a group of men were urinating on a naked woman. All the men in the room were able to perform this task, so they all started urinating on the woman who was now naked.”

Non-violent heterosexual porn often becomes ‘too boring’ and leads (commonly) men to seek out more ‘interesting’ and ‘exciting’ types of pornography: often including abuse and rape. (Zillman and Bryant) (Briere and Malamuth)"

No. 95856

>>95847(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 95857

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>>95852
Toddlercon creeps me out. They can't even speak properly I don't think they can make sexual decisions and sex is probably extremely painful– for them. (no baneposting, pls)

>>95853
>believing that a woman who dresses provocatively deserves to be raped

I don't see why anyone believes this. People can get raped for being ugly, or for angering a rapist, or just out of convenience. You don't have to be attracted to someone to want to rape them. Also, women in Islamic countries are forced to cover up, yet some how they still get raped. If you walk down a dark alleyway at 3:00 AM, conservative dress and modest behavior isn't going save you if you happen to come across a rapist.

>report decreased sexual interest in their girlfriends or wives


I have no doubt this is true- a huge competent of relationships is sexual satisfaction. When you masturbate, sex doesn't seem as important because you've already satisfied yourself. Most of the other claims sound sketchy at best. The third world countries that are too poor to even afford any real pornography are probably the most perverse. Pedophilia, rape, and bestiality are rampant in places like that. Those places manage to be plenty rape-happy without any outside influence of pornography.

>Open-hand slapping occurs in 41.1% of scenes.


This may surprise you, but a lot of women enjoy getting slapped and choked or at least pretend to because they're afraid of losing their man.(depends on the person) Loads of people have been physically or sexually assaulted. For some reason, people tend to want to relieve the abuse over and over.

>Research indicates that 25% to 30% of male college students in the United States and Canada admit that there is some likelihood they would rape a woman if they could get away with it.


I don't doubt this. Most people don't do what's right, they do what they can get away with. Men are naturally stronger and bolder so they and can get away with a lot more, Your post seems to be focused on men committing rapes, but you should research matriarchal bee colonies and spotted hyena clans. When the females are stronger than the males, they prove themselves to be just as cruel.

No. 95858

>>95856
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