/ot/ - off-topic

Does anyone here have an art career? Not the fanart commissions type, the one you go to school for

I know this is a broad question, but is the tech industry to oversaturated to enter now?
It's like there's been a huge boom in popularity for tech careers the past year.

>>1962941
I think it's more that the industry has contracted as a result of lower investments due to the interest rate hike over the last 2 years. A lot of startups/tech companies are not profitable and have been kept alive purely through investments.

>>1962941
No technology is a thing of the past

>>1963299
Elaborate please

Am the only woman at a 1 month old establishment, don't think management thought about gender when hiring, just chose solid candidates. We are small, and I like my molleagues on the whole, but every so often I lose it because there is this sense that 'the men are talking', and I feel completely invisible. How do I deal with this? It's like they can barely look me in the eye sometimes. I don't know how I can bring this up in a way that will be at all heard.

>>1962890
No, but I went to school for Fine Art, and pretty much never had any hope of pursuing it as a career because it is so, so nepotistic and dirty as an industry. My best advice would be to find something adjacent such as management and integrate from there.

>>1962890
I work as a graphic designer and grt paid well, if you count that as an art career. I do illustration work on the side and occasionally get to integrate it with client work.

>>>/ot/1801622
Quoting bc post is in another thread:
>i work as a software developer and i hate coding. it’s so repetitive and tedious and i suck at it. i feel too stupid to have this job. i feel like i spend all day asking for help from my colleagues. i regret getting a compsci degree i want to rip my hair out god

How long have you worked as a software dev? It does get easier, though it doesn't really get better imo.

I'm past the painful "overreliance on others" phase, but I still constantly feel like I'm forcing myself to do something that I have no natural aptitude for. It's difficult for me not to feel extremely regretful, even though I'm really lucky that I'm able to perform my job satisfactorily well, that I get paid a decent amount and don't work long hours, and that I get to be fully remote.

I actually switched to CS on a bit of a whim after working in medicine a bit and realizing that I did not want to put myself through the rigor of med school just so I could be trapped in a high-responsibility and high-stress career by a mountain of debt. I ended up finding my CS degree substantially more emotionally taxing than doing a bio degree with pre-med stuff, but I chalked this up to the fact that my school's CS program was considered very good while the bio one was just middling. I imagined deluded myself into thinking that working at a corporation would be somewhat chill, and that I just had to make it through school, and I'd be alright. Working isn't quite as intense as school was, but the deadlines are never-ending, my least favorite parts of doing the degree are now my job, my coworkers are all male and are either afraid to interact with me or subtly flirtatious, and I now have to deal with a bunch of corporate nonsense.

You're always "learning," but this isn't usually learning about computer architecture, infrastructure, or programming languages. You're learning only as much of the cool and generally useful stuff as you need to scrape by while you instead dedicate most of your workweek and energy to memorizing the details of a sprawling, complex, and impossibly shitty machine cobbled together by people who often are even more confused and retarded than you are. And when that piece of shit has problems (and it constantly has problems), you are the authority on it, and you have to grit your teeth and take ownership of it and prostrate yourself before upset coworkers, even when you're given 0 resources to improve it. This shit seriously makes me feel like I am wasting my life.

I'm really not sure how long I want to stick it out. I'm not happy, and I feel like I am just not very naturally oriented towards tech and programming. I can do it just fine, but it requires immense effort on my part, and I feel like I'm a square peg forcing myself into a round hole, shredding off my corners every day by coming up with 1,000 coping strategies to get myself to be able to focus on work that I quite frankly find boring, exhausting, meaningless, and somewhat stressful.

Yet despite my struggles, the pay and QoL disparity between tech and everything else is so massive that I can't imagine that switching to a career in something like medicine would make me appreciably happier. I currently spend my workday being miserable, and I can't work on any personal projects, but at least I have the physical energy to cook and do chores. I don't have to waste a ton of time with a commute. I don't get that much time off, but I don't have to worry about getting my shift covered or anything. And I make more money than most people my age could dream of. (Unfortunately, it's not so much that I could both own a house and retire early, and I can't use it to travel any time soon because I can't afford a gap in my resume in this hyper-competitive job market.)

I feel like I'm in limbo and waiting for it to get better, for me to be able to reclaim the confidence and free time that I had when I was in college doing pre-med. But I don't see any clear path that would make it better, besides lucking out with one of those remote jobs where you do hardly any work. I feel so shitty and entitled for not being happy with what I have, but I am so frustrated that I have worked so hard, and I feel like this is the best life I can feasibly get.

This turned into quite the rant, but yeah. I'm sure some anons can commiserate.

>>1963994
Just started a new tech job ( >>1961390 ) and I feel the same way, roughly. Except I'm the sole tech hire, I'm working on everything alone, my set up is weird because I have to speak to the company we outsource hell desk work to if I want to install anything (and they're retarded and difficult), etc. etc. etc. but the pay is great. My boss is cool. I get my own office, benefits are amazing, etc. etc. I could go on and on.

I'm looking up articles about quiet quitting and quiet firing at my job, idgaf anymore.

>>1964370
How is it going?

>>1962941
YES.
If you're thinking of going to undergrad for CS then the problem will probably clear by the time you graduate. If you're looking into doing a boot camp or a career path that isn't related to programming, project management, or possibly UX design then forget it. Even experienced workers are having trouble finding jobs right now and new grads are screwed.

>>1964400
It's making me feel justified. I should even come to the office with my 3DS and keep playing as soon as I'm done with the bare minimum. I'm seriously starting to suspect that the IT problems that started more than a month ago that's preventing everyone from working from home is done on purpose.

>>1964408
nta but is the oversaturation going to last though? Our increasingly digital world that needs to be programmed by someone is going nowhere right? (I'm not into tech, just curious)

>>1964471
How come? I don't know but my company has been kinda weird lately. These IT issue started as soon as my manager left for a month on sick leave for surgery, and the managers who started replacing her aren't even in our city. One is even in another country and harassing me with plenty of useless meetings to tell me how to do my job because I'm behind everyone in terms of kpis. Which happened because my team was shortstaffed, again. But the HR decided to not renew the contract of a guy I trained who worked very well for a year and a half so they would hire someone abroad who could be way less expensive. Now they're realizing this was a terrible idea way too late and I'm having fun making all these managers realize how retarded they are until my own manager comes back. My coworkers are sick of this shit too but I've had these issues for longer. Basically I think everyone thinks we're a bunch of retards who need to be micromanaged all the time so they don't want us to work from home anymore. New employees have a different contract that states they can only work from home after 6 months in the company and their first contract lasts 6 months so this is what makes the most sense imo.

>>1964453
I think it will go through it's highs and lows, but I don't think "Just do this bootcamp for 6 months and you got a dev job" and "CS student getting a 6 figure job before even graduating" is coming back any time soon.

I know this is a long shot.. but are there any fields/jobs that earn above average incomes and you can learn on your own in your free time or follow paid retraining programs for? What programming used to be like >>1964539 said I guess. Do blue collar jobs earn better now that everyone is over-educated and there's a shortage for them?

I went to school for my current job and I enjoy it, it's a comfy office job that feels meaningful, it earns me a stable enough living, but I realized I won't be able to make it out of the renting market on a single income in this field. Just wondering what my options are without going back to university full-time which isn't an option.

>>1964601
Sales

Just started a job today and it's already exhausting. I feel poorly trained, and I am standing all day as a cashier. I dont mind that part of the job, but I am brand new to this system and don't know how the cafeteria food in this building works. So I have to ring people out for the correct amount or I can accidently over or under charge them. Like my trainer was nice, but she felt too busy to properly train me. I am hoping I am over thinking this, since it was day 1.
I have to be there at 6am, which sucks a lot. Other than that, the job itself isnt the worst. However, they have a ZERO PHONE policy, where I have to leave my phone in my car. I cant even bring it inside the building. The other locker that i put it in is half a block away and so for lunch, I either get to eat or spend the time running to get my phone from 2 buildings away.

I'm not gonna lie, nonnies, I am already dreading the rest of the week. I dont mind not using my phone for work, but to not even be allowed to have it in the same building i am in?? It's a little too much for under $18 an hour…

>>1965565
If you have your lunch outside you can just put your phone in your bag, in a small pouch if neccesary, what are they going to do, search your bag like it's an airport?

Anyway look for something better while you work this job. I worked in administration for a while when I didn't have any qualifications and felt over and done with slaving away at manual labour jobs, might be worth looking into if you want to get something that's more comfy.

I think my boss wants me to train the team in Python now that I’ve proved it’s useful to the job. My issue with this is that being the only person in office who knows Python makes me very useful. And it’s Python. A programming language. It’s not like I’m doing anything particularly complicated but if you all could pick it up then you would’ve picked it up long before I came in. Just let me do what I was paid for and let everyone else do what they were paid for.

ive been trying to get internships or a job now that im about to graduate and ive had very little luck every application is just getting sent into the aether. This job that seemed promising is now ghosting me. I dont think i have too shitty of a resume for a new grad. I have a bit of experience and a few certifications. this is so ass

Is learning javascript programming going to be worth it?
On one hand I'm good at basic computer shit and love autistic tedious tasks; and it seems fun so far.
But the other hand is that I'm nervous about how people say Computer science is a saturated field. The outsourcing as well as the new AI shit doesn't help either, as well as the mass lay offs.

All I want is a basic bitch office job but I feel like the only ones open are front desk receptionist and dealing with customers already sucks (especially boomers, its always older people throwing massive shit fits- I don't even think I met a karen/kevin who's under 40 years old).


Also during interviews, people suggest to lie about diversity so that you can get hired more easily. But I'm also seeing people say that they don't hire people with they/them pronouns and openly say that companies find them too hostile for the work environment. Everything is polarized and I don't know wtf the reality is anymore.

Have you guys ever used chatgpt and other models to help you narrow down a career path? Or use it at work?

>>1966042
I'm tempted to bring a bag with my phone but they are a high security place and I'm worried they'll fire me if I use my phone on site. It's insane since I have to use my ID to go through a scanner. I'm worried the scanner will pick up the phone and then I'll get in trouble. They have a super strict no phone policy for every single person that works there. It's definitely easier to find a new job at this point.

I timed myself today at lunch and it takes 5 mins to run to the first builder to get my phone from my locker, so I can only use it on lunch, not even break. Not even subtracting the minutes I spend getting to the time clock area, which is at the back of the kitchen. Place is wild. When will they learn taking away people's phones is really unreasonable? I dont even work in the security dept, just the cafeteria.

Nonnas my field finally has 3 spots open after waiting more than 6 months for an opening! If I don't get a spot I'll probably sign up for the navy or something.

>>1966503
I used chatGPT to clean up my CV by ordering it to make certain sections sound smarter. It just another tool that provides you with support and answers, as long as you know what to ask.

>>1966899
Good luck to you anon, and to all the anons job hunting right now!

Anyone know the best way to get out of retail right now, for someone that has worked the same retail job for the better part of this decade? What is something in high-demand that would be fairly easy to find a job in after getting an associates? There is nothing I particularly want to do, and I think I will miss my current job to some extent (I have been looking at jobs with a similar focus that I could use my experience for), but it's time for me to move on.

>>1967013
I'm looking into getting an administrative job. Just gotta brush up on your excel skills maybe. I'm literally so exhausted from my new job that is menial labor, where I am on my feet 7.5 hours with only one break. I hope you get out of retail hell, nonnie

>>1967013
That specifically require an associates? Nursing and allied health. But you don't need an associates to leave retail…

>>1967013
Sales? But be careful because sales jobs are very often scams or 100% commission, so stick to reputable companies that pay a salary

Any accountants / bookkeepers here? Do you like your job? I'm thinking about going back to school for this. Would be nice to get a position for the government, though my impression is that such jobs are harder to come by than more arduous public accounting positions. I know I would be very good at it. I'm not passionate about it, but I'd prefer it to something like programming, and I like being able to have a specific task and consistent directive as opposed to the 24/7 multitasking and intense amount of socialization and communication I am responsible for now. Working at a retail establishment without a functioning manager while sometimes operating as the ersatz backbone of the store is exhausting.

>start job on the 27th of last month
>so i’ve been here a few weeks
>boss sends out mass email advising us to take a few vacation days because we’re entering our busy period soon
>but i’ve only been here a few weeks
would it…would it be wrong to take a day or two? i’m so new that it seems gauche but kek i dunno

>>1967853
How long is the busy period supposed to be? If it's a full quarter or more, a day sounds fine, especially if you're new enough that you can't do much if too many coworkers are out.

>>1967013
I'm also looking for this, but I've been out of work 6 months and graduated last year. At this point I may just look at a retail job again first and find something better while I'm at the other job. Stagnating around the house is poisoning me. But I'm totally afraid I'm gonna bomb interviews because my months of isolation I've felt have made me so socially inept. I just can't deal with a remote job nonnies, I need stimulation

What kind of job can I do if I have no degree and no real skills?

I did a lot of random shit over the last 15 years. Administration, book keeping, logistics, tech support, retail etc.. I also finished a few tech related courses but I'm still so new I can't apply as dev + there are absolutely 0 tech jobs where I am and moving isn't an option.

I feel completely lost because I wanted to go into tech but the market is so oversaturated and compared to someone with a degree no one would hire me. People keep telling me to get out of the country because I can speak multiple languages but what's the point if I have no skills?

>>1967904
a completely retarded they/them i know who got fired from kotaku for posting dumb, shitty articles about racism (not actual serious racism just how dare this white person wear braids) landed a job at mihoyo simply because she can speak chink fluently. i think if you seem personable enough and are trainable you’ll get picked up as a polyglot

I periodically have to remind myself that my boss isn't my friend, and my "work friends" aren't my friends either. This isn't to say that I've been trauma dumping or open book-ing at work or anything, it's more I've been letting myself get very stressed out over acts I parse as "betrayal" or "unfair assignments from someone I thought to be a great manager who considered my time and emotional stability (lol)." And, logically speaking, they are good managers – these are objectively the best bosses I've had thus far – they just aren't my pals and don't otherwise have my good interest at heart past ensuring I can turn them a profit. And I mean, they do, but if they feel they can push me and I won't quite snap they will.

I'm not mad, I'm just processing. I'm really unused to the (proper) corpo world so it's jarring to run into these situations. If any of this makes sense or even gets read by anyone else do general vents about work even go here? Should I have posted in vent?.

I can't wait until Friday. Hopefully Thursday goes by in a blur and Friday follows suit. Everyone does fuck-all on Fridays here.

>>1968533
I feel the same way. I have a hard time navigating the whole thing, as I get rather paranoid about the whole dynamic. I get along with and have shared interests with my boss, but he's kind of a weird guy and it's very hard for me to tell what he's thinking.
He often proposes that me, him, and another coworker play video games together in our free time, and I don't know what to make of it. I really don't want to be cynical about it, and on one hand I'm not, but I feel myself get way more emotionally attached than I'm comfortable with if I assume that he really just wants to foster relationships on my (admittedly very asocial) team. So in a way, it's easier for me to think that he's just approaching teambuilding in a manipulative but benign table-tennis-in-the-lunchroom way, but that just causes me to build resentment towards him and the general fakeness of corporate culture. However, we do have some good and genuine conversations, so it's hard for me not to run a little wild with that and want to open up and be understood by him, as mutual understanding and really getting to know a person is something that I value a ton, personally.

Ugh. I've gotten decently good at maintaining a certain distance, but I find doing it extremely emotionally unsatisfying. My bf has great, actual friendships with his coworkers, including his boss, and I'm so envious.

Also, I'm glad you posted here. No hate towards the job-seekers, but I mostly come here to try to get a feel for how people similar to myself are adjusting to entering the workforce full-time.

>>1967013
I don't think this is a bad idea. You should try for a grocery store job at an upscale grocer. I always thought that sounded comfy and would try to apply for those positions before I got hired at my current store. Stocking shelves and meeting quotas seems like a fun little game.

>>1967013

Samefag but I think I'm gonna go back to school (associates), with the goal of getting a government office specialist job. Sucks that it would look bad optics wise to get a new job now, if I intend to go back to school anyway. I don't want to ruin my streak of experience at one place (this is the longest I've held down a job), but I'm so tired of retail and all the stuff I must contend with at my store on a daily basis.

>>1969125
Sorry, meant to reply to >>1967013

Has anyone made a move on a someone at work that you don’t work with (and don’t even know the name of)? How do you do it?

Any advice for decent, legit remote jobs that can be done without any credentials? I'm going to be moving between countries twice this year so I am really hoping for a job that I can do from anywhere, but there are so many dubious wfh postings and I have no idea how to get picked when it seems like everyone and their dog also wants to work from home. I don't care what it is as long as there's consistent pay and it's not like something illegal or sexual, obviously, I have no college degree so I can't be picky. I just need a job…

Mandatory company luncheon tomorrow and I don’t want to go. Especially since it’s BBQ and if shifts my usual lunch period to about an hour earlier, which means my day won’t be neatly bisected into two. This is objectively and subjectively the best job I’ve ever had, so complaining about it feels spoiled and silly but shit I can’t help it. I do not want to get picked at by nosy and bored coworkers reeee

>>1975771

Have you tried Data annotation? It's boring work but they do pay, you have to pass the verification.

Fuck this industry. There are fewer projects to work on, and others are being postponed to next year or the following year. I don't know where I want to work anymore, but I just want stability. Why does finding a suitable career have to be difficult? It doesn't help that we are in a recession or heading towards one or whatever these damn analysts call it. Nonas, I just hope it gets better. I feel miserable.

I'm giving up on finding an office position now, and just applied for a janitor position in a hospital. Even though I got a degree in stuff dealing with business and computers, my social anxiety has ramped up so much over the past year that I literally cannot speak without stuttering. I wish this was a joke. When I had just turned 20ish I was fine, no stuttering, I could drive places and talk to people. Now I can barely leave my room and I stutter when speaking. I don't know what happened to me. Well, my anxiety is a lot worse and I'm sure being a shut in has put the nail in the coffin for me socially.
Anyways, I hope just getting a janitor position can help me get outside enough that I stop feeling so anxious about leaving the house and stuff. I also hope I don't have to talk to a lot of people. The job is in the hospital though. Has anyone else ever worked in a hospital like this before? Is it miserable? Is there anything I should say in a job interview there?

>>1980957
You can try doing remote interviews just as practice with no intention of getting hired but if you happen to do so then that would be great. Even if you don't progress any of the applications, doing a number of online interviews you will find yourself improving gradually from one to the next. It could help get you acclimated to talking to people again

I'm fucking done with retarded corpo shit. Ever since I worked in a call center I just can't deal with the fakness that comes with a corporate setting, everyone is just smiling and lying. My fuse has become too short for this shit but I still have to interview with HR morons that are the same if I want to get a job anywhere.

The most recent stupid thing that happened in my job search:
>IT specialist job ad
>find out during the interview none of the work I'd do would be even remotely IT related

Why waste everyone's time like this? Just write you're looking for a fucking secretary or some shit oh my god. I wish I was actually skilled enough to be able to directly tell these people to go fuck themselves.

it finally happened! i quit my hotel job in January because it was abusive as hell, and ive finally been able to pull my old work bestie away from there as well and she has a may 7 start date at my current place! she's texting me about everyone's reactions to her leaving and its like i get to vicariously quit the hotel all over again through her. that place has pushed out all of its decent workers in the past year because anyone pulling their weight makes the managers feel bad about themselves. im so glad to have "rescued" her from there so now i can really say fuck that place w/o feeling guilty

Has anyone benefited from networking or job seeking groups and seminars? I'm trying to spice up my LinkedIn and get a more professional job, but I got my associates last year, have only worked retail jobs prior and have a 7 month gap on my record from when I fell into a mental breakdown and had medical scares. I'm thinking I could benefit from those seminars only because I've been in a rut and I'm not prepared to interview for a fancier job or internship yet without some pointers, and I'd like to network and meet people.

>>1983623
yes going to a conference helped me a lot but admittedly because i knew a girl working at the place i now work at who was also there and she told the boss who decided to give me a second chance after i was rejected two weeks after my first interview. it also helps that the girl they hired instead of me kept getting caught in lies and turns out she had a court date coming up for the next county over… who knew govt jobs don't always do a background check? unfortunately networking and serendipity go hand in hand i guess. but if you really want the job putting conferences/seminars on a resume definitely can't hurt as it shows interest. networking/job fairs are always good too, why not try and give it a shot

>>1983623
samefag but if it helps i landed the exact job i wanted by shadowing + showing interest + going to a conference a now-coworker was at (i didn't know when i enrolled). i am only now graduating with my undergrad degree (it's literally a general studies degree too kek) and one previous job that is only somewhat related for five years. networking and luck are literally everything in my experience.

>>1983403
Congrats nonna! I'm so happy that you two get to work together again. You won.
>>1969280
Don't. People still talk.

Has anyone here done bartending? I'm 23 and am thinking about getting into it but I don't have a lot of experience working with alcohol.

>>1969280
Don't. I did this and its not worth it.

>>1984953
Yes. It's a fine job. Bottle/shot bars are the easiest. Learning how to mix a cocktail or pretending to care about craft beer or wine isn't that hard either. It's one of those jobs where if you learn how to do it right you naturally get fast at doing the work, but if you rush while you're learning you'll fuck up a lot later. Remember that every little bit of booze adds up at a bar and it all equals money; over-pouring will make your boss hate you and upselling will make your boss like you.
Hours are bad, not good for your health. Do not under any circumstance get in the habit of having drinks with coworkers after your shift is over, that is how you piss away all your money. Drinking after work will also destroy your sleep hygiene. People working in F&B disproportionately have drug and alcohol problems, it's not a baseless stereotype, do not pick up a coke habit or anything retarded.
Ask the existing staff how tips work before you step on toes. There might be a tip splitting system or a tipout system for bar-backs, dishwashers, servers, etc. Find out. You could be owed tips from servers for pouring/mixing drinks for their tables, you want to know that sort of thing.

>>1984168
Thank you nona you give me hope. I graduated with an associates and was considering transferring to a diff university to do my bachelors this year since I think I will probably need one but I'd like to go to these things to meet people and see if I can slam my foot in the door and make an impression somehow. I'm in a tight spot and sick and tired of being unemployed but I want something better than the retail jobs I've had, one of which I stayed at for nearly 6 years. If all else fails I'll get another retail job and work through my bachelors and make connections there but I'm holding out that I'm not completely lost socially and networking will come through for me

>>1985015
You are amazing, thank you nonnie. I appreciate you!

nonnies who work in tech, which is valued more? Associate degree or certs like Comptia or Google?
I'm looking at getting certs (working on degree rn) but not sure if it's as required as entry level job listings make it seem

>>1985291
assuming you're talking about IT, I got an associate's and ended up needing to get A+ certification anyways even though my degree taught me far beyond that level. It's a hard requirement for most entry-level jobs (and yes, even with degree only the most basic entry jobs would take me without experience). Also I've been told many times that years of working help desk trumps a degree or certs every time in this field, basically only reason to get a degree is because some schools are partnered with companies that scout new hires from the graduates. For my school, that was an AI company who made you take specific AI classes for a job and I don't want to work with AI so it was basically useless
Finish your degree since you're already doing it and it won't hurt, but if I could do it all over I'd get A+, maybe Net+ or Security+, practice setting up a server/homelab project or fixing broken PCs so I have something to put on the resume, and then start looking for a super entry level tech support job. Easier said than done since getting hired with no experience is hell, but doesn't that go for all fields? Also if your school has an IT or programming club join that, recruiters love that stuff. I don't think getting a degree helped at all tbh and spending that time working would've done more for me.

>>1985321
Thank you I shall take your words to heart
>practice setting up a server/homelab project or fixing broken PCs
That's already my hobby 24/7 kek so I wouldn't have trouble there
Gonna sound nitpicky but my biggest filter for me is all the really specific details like what voltage on your laser printer balls or whatever other nonsense.
I know why they question it, it's just annoying to memorize but that's another issue entirely outside of getting certs

I'm currently job-hunting, but am the type to literally never wear makeup (tried it less than 5 times previously). I've been doing it for interviews but I"m worried that I'm so fucking inept at it that I'm just making myself look worse/stupid.

Should I skip makeup entirely or does it still really matter to put in the effort?

I hate how long getting a job actually takes. 1 month of waiting for them to close the application window, weeks for them to read everything, more weeks or potentially months for them to respond and set up an interview and then waiting for vetting to clear, all while you're jobless.

>>1985352
I think it depends on the job and how clean/healthy you look. Clean and moisturised nails, tidy hair and fitting clothing should look professional enough, but tinted lip balm and neat eyebrows will elevate it.

Nonnies I had a great interview today, I feel like I really connected with the hiring manager. Would it be bad form to send a connect request on LinkedIn?

Why is finding a weekend job so fucking hard??? I'm also disgusted at how low pay so many minimum wage jobs have for FULL TIME positions, granted i am not looking at those jobs. How do people live like that and how can anyone think that wage is acceptable for a full grown adult?

Any law adjacent employees here? id love to hear your stories. Considering becoming a paralegal.

>>1985410
Id start with a thank you email for the interview!

>>1985415
I’m a legal assistant currently. I would say it’s a good job at the beginning of your career, but if you don’t intend to go law school, it’s kind of a dead end. If you are interested in law school, definitely work at a law firm first though. So many attorneys are miserable people because they chased money and prestige and aren’t cut out for the 60+ hour work weeks many of them are expected to work

>>1985442
Law nona, some advice please. I'm in criminology as my hobby degree and I really enjoy it but our teacher tells us to pursue a law degree after wards (which would take me 2 years because many classes overlap) otherwise seeking employment will be hard. Is there truth to this?

>>1985352
I don't wear makeup to interviews or the office either and I know at least a few other women in my workplace who don't (though of course there are more that do). So long as you look presentable, groom yourself and dress appropriately you should be fine. Makeup is not part of grooming unless you're like a flight attendant or something

>>1985459
I'm not legal assistant anon, but I have a friend with a criminology degree. She's had real bad luck finding work after finishing school. It's been a couple years. Feels bad.

Any suggestions for summer jobs for students that are office or WFH based? Or otherwise don't involve manual labour all day?

>>1985664
Call center

>>1985668
Don't listen to this post. Call center is one of the worst jobs out there.

>>1985681
>>1985668
I worked for a call centre during the pandemic, making appointments for vaccinations. That was a pretty chill job. When people say call centre jobs are terrible, do you mean outbound only or is that also true for most inbound call centres?

>>1985685
Nta but outbound call centres are the worst!! Inbound is not that bad just sometimes you get people who ring up to moan but outbound you are basically paid to harass people so they all hate you when you ring, don't do outbound

>>1985681
It's ok as a summer job because you'll leave right before it becomes unbearable but it also depends on what the calls are to begin with too.

>>1985442
Thanks sweet nonna!

Currently pursuing my Bachelors of Law, finishing my first year. Any advice?

>>1985459
Ayrt, I didn’t study in criminology, so I’m not really sure, sorry nonna. I double majored in political science and history. Humanities seems to be a fairly common prelaw track since it’s a lot of reading and writing. But honestly it doesn’t matter too much what you studied undergrad—what matters most is getting a good gpa and doing well on the lsat so you can get into a top 10 law school. The law field is very elitist, and it does matter where you studied at

I'm in an interview process that's taking so damn long, it's been a month already and there's still another last step next week plus another week for them to tell me if I've passed. Granted that it's an enormous tech company but still, is that even normal? For my curent job I think that it took me not even a month from application to getting hired, I'm climbing up the walls with anxiety.

>>1985685
NTA but all call centres are soul sucking. Outbound call centres are their own special circle of hell, but inbound ones aren't great either. You always get customers calling to bitch about their order because one item is two shades off what they saw online or complain that they have defective internet because they can't connect their books to their Kindle. You get customers threatening suicide to see if they can get away with not paying bills. You get retards who rant at you because they dialed the wrong number and it's your fault somehow. It's doable if you don't give a shit but it does get to you.
Outbound call centres, not even once.

>>1985685
I'll be real with you. I work at a call center that requires inbound/outbound calls, but it's related to mental health and welfare resources. It can be absolutely great and fulfilling, but most of the time I feel like the whipping person for the state. I get to take all the abuse from people frustrated about how the government is run.

>>1985685
inbound is terrible as well, but it greatly depends on with whom you're working. when I did enterprise technical support over the phone, I worked mostly with businessmen and technicians who were always really pleasant to talk to. Working customer service for a bougie skin-care company was a completely different story…

>>1966457
A bit of a late response but in my experience there will always be work for people who can actually code and can communicate well. There's so many turboautists and morons who try to use ChatGPT for everything polluting the candidate pool and that's why it seems like the field is saturated. My company's had a tech position open for years and had probably hundreds of candidates apply but most of them are filtered out by the most basic of programming tests or can't control their autism enough to pass an interview if they do succeed.
My company wouldn't hire a they/them in a thousand years but we're a small business. A large business might have drunk the Kool-Aid and pick up a they/them diversity hire. It probably depends who you're applying to.

Ugh, all the signs of targeted layoffs have hit my org. The chances that I'd be cut are slim but I also wouldn't be totally shocked if the entire org were wiped out. Tech needs to stop shitting the bed.

>>1985685
I don't work at a call centre but do take some inbound calls as part of my job. It's not that bad if the people calling are other businesses since they usually know their shit before they pick up the phone and are less likely to be a pain in the ass than dealing with the general public. We do have some annoying ass people that call here that we all hate but for the most part it's not too bad. I find the shitty coworkers who slack off and don't take their calls more aggravating than the customers tbh

Anybody had any experience with catalog modeling? I think I have the right body/face for it, and I know I'd have to reach out to some agencies, but IS it worthwhile? Will it wreck my health?

>>1986155
>Tech needs to stop shitting the bed
It isn't though. It's exploding. You're just feeling the repercussions of your own labor as AI replaces everyone whose job requires a low level of cognition.

i accidentally missed one of my shifts cause i read my schedule wrong now as punishment my job isn’t going to be scheduling me. i’ve never missed a day of work, i always show up on time etc i feel like this is a little outrageous of a “punishment” i know my manager doesn’t really like me but do any nonas have similar experiences? i work at a retail mall clothing store so it might be different

>>1986490
This happens to me (i do flagging) and honestly just work for someone else or be straight up about it. Theyre fucking with your pay and thats NOT ok.

I just hate working. I loathe it. I hate how burnt out I get from it. Every time I feel I'm hitting a good work/life balance, the exhaustion starts. I only have 3-4 months of hard work in me at a time, and then I just completely check out. Fuck existence, being forced to partaking in working makes me want to off myself.

>>1986321
You clearly have no experience with or perspective into the industry.

Sick of the fucking job search. I've made it to the final interview twice now. Someone said that perhaps I need to be more friendly (I'm autistic). Well, I'll keep it in mind, but now I'm not even getting interviews.

My internship used to be pretty okay and I used to be able to learn things, but since the company entered a more intense phase of some big organisational changes, it became so fucking awful. I alternate between having nothing to do because I need several people to get back to me (and they don't, so I need to spam them) to having way too many vague tasks at once, and most of them aren't in my actual job description. Everyone is stressed, so many people are leaving, the team gets blamed by higher ups despite not being in charge of any of the things that are going wrong (but shareholders don't care and giving us additional, stupid work makes them happy!). I don't have a job lined up after this but I constantly consider quitting before my contract actually ends because this is such a shitty, anxiety-inducing experience and I'm tired of having to pretend I'm having a good time. I feel so sorry for the people who planned to keep working here for years and are getting fucked over by all the changes, too.

>>1985685
I had to do inbound for a couple years at my medical office job, until calls were redirected to an actual call center because the number of them was overwhelming. It is hell, people are very mentally unhinged in any job where you work with the public in person too but they act out way more on the phone. I had to hang up some calls because they were so mental. You also get a lot of people who think you have all the time in the world trauma dumping on you while you're running on a clock. This doesn't happen as frequently in person because they feel the pressure of everyone else waiting in line and staring, but on call they can't feel it so they dc.

It gave me phone anxiety and I seriously don't miss it, I can't imagine outbound or doing sales. I'd probably crumple up and die.