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No. 1624241

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Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix Yoon

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No. 1624255

I love the thread pic, very pretty

No. 1624283

>>1624090
There's a server posted on /cbsg/ thread on /ic/. sorry I keep reposting, I keep getting details wrong.

No. 1624284

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I hear a lot of artists migrating to reddit(as it has a larger userbase then Tumblr), I wonder how that will play out?

No. 1624316

What are some good resources (books, sites, blogs, whatever) on how to draw comics/manga/webtoons? Like utilizing the medium as a whole, panel shapes, composition of the page, character angles, colors etc. I'm alredy aware of McCloud's Understanding Comics and Eisner's Sequential Art and was wondering if you guys know some other resources that I might've not heard of.

No. 1624317

>>1624284
Bad no doubt. The community-based structure of Reddit isn't really good for posting art tbh

No. 1624320

>>1624283
>/ic/
>not insane

No. 1624327

>>1624320
most of the cbsg posters are also nonnies

No. 1624332

>>1624284
Reddit doesn't give two fucks about original content and people there hoard all the content on the internet and post it there without artists permission. I already see how artists will loose their shit when their art gets stolen by some karmawhore and posted on bis subs without credit.

No. 1624349

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>draw something
>apply color
>looks like shit
>apply gradation map
>suddenly looks really good
how do i get good at coloring nonnies? I feel its whats holding my art back, i dont want to relly eternally on gradation maps

No. 1624398

>>1624349
color theory. seriously. a good understanding of color theory will give you all you need to know.

No. 1624420

>>1624398
i know color theory but i dont get ita, specially when i have to choose saturation and brightness

No. 1624429

>>1624420
Nta but at that point you need to just get more practice to develop a feeling for it. Try to copy colors off of pieces you like, by eye and with colorpicker. And there's really no shame in relying on gradient maps, that's what they are there for after all. Don't only use them at the end either, if you're painting you can immediately put one over your flats if it'll look nicer.

No. 1624437

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How do I get more commissioners and promote my drawings? I know that to be seen you need to spam like and follow to random art accounts but I'm an antisocial sperg and I don't really want followers, I want people commissioning me.
I used to get a bunch of clients when I posted on commission subreddits and tumblr but now I don't seem to attract people. Is there any good subreddit or something?

No. 1624441

>>1624437
It sounds like posting to comm subreddits/tumblr has worked for you before, so it might just be a dry spell for finding buyers right now. Maybe focus on your best selling art type and improve on it? Art memes also help promote your work and draw in buyers.

No. 1624508

>>1624349
You need to train your eye to understand why you think it looks bad. Too saturated? Too muddy? Not concordant enough? The you try to fix it based on your feeling.
Do you try to implement colour schemes in your pieces nonna? Personally when I colour I try make the colours as complimentary as possible in hue while still being perceivable as the colour I want them to be. This requires a lot of trial and flicking between different colour alternatives, but I think it works alright, although I kinda use it as a crutch, but you should try with other types of colour schemes too.
Do you keep your canvas white while colouring? It's better to change your canvas colour before colouring into the colour you want it to be at the end or as a mid grey so your eye can compare the colours you actually want with each other instead of with the huge void of unnaturally bright white behind them. The other option to this is to pick a base tone and colouring the entire character before colouring the individual parts.

No. 1624587

>>1624349
This might be a bit advanced, but it's the closest way to color digitally that mimics how you'd do it traditionally. I recommend all of Sycra's color theory videos.

No. 1624594

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What did she think was going to happen when she posted a supposed 15yr old with tits and tongue out?

No. 1624601

>>1624441
Thanks for replying! And as for memes, you mean like to color wheel one?

No. 1624612

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>>1624594
Kek went to check the artists age and what the fuck am I looking at? Why is she 20 and doing this

No. 1624616

>>1624612
>normal human body
>draws literal Bratz dolls

No. 1624628

>>1624612
What is it with artists who do clearly stylized works going "normalize normal human bodies" when their works show stylized and not at all realistic bodies?

if not for the caption this would just be accused of being run of the mill coomer art.

No. 1624638

>>1624628
I thought it was sarcasm honestly lmao

No. 1624660

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>>1624628
No idea. But I remember her getting on my timeline because this tweet blew up, second image is someone responding with "Gross" after she tells them the spots are warts. She has a point about even small things getting looked down upon, but this feels like that cliche trope with a conventionally attractive character having one small facial scar and being really insecure about it. Also ironic for her to qrt this because all her characters are obviously shaped to be attractive, if she had made a genderbend of Miguel I doubt it would've looked much different from Kamii's.

No. 1624678

>>1624612
there's even a bunch of "when I went to high school I looked just like this and so did plenty of other people!!!" in the quotes lmao you really can't make this up.

No. 1624738

>>1624678
lol the self inserts they wrote into fanfiction don't count.

No. 1624743

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I love art with lots of dynamic lines and inks and try to make pieces like these myself, but I always start to struggle and obsess over every line from the start and lose focus/get frustrated. Meanwhile even the smoothest lineart out there has natural flaws that gives them life, but I can't seem to overcome the initial imperfections and barely ever finish a piece as a result. Any lineart-focused artists who also struggle with this?

No. 1624748

>>1624678
Kek I remember being delusional in high school and thinking I was super curvy and mature looking but when I see pics now I was lanky and boxy. Retards screech about the wall but majority of women I’ve seen didn’t grow into their curves until their mid 20’s.

No. 1624753

>>1624678
Sageblog but my hormones did a big mess with me when I was 14, but not to the point to look like a Bratz doll or the way that artist draw girls like.

I bet she's even excusing herself saying "they're teens" to avoid coomer comments or being seen like a commer artist.

>>1624743
I focus a lot in my lineart, specially traditionally, but the most cliche thing I can tell you is taking your time with the inking and inking value. Video related told me my problem as well: I try to rush so hard in finish a lineart and it ends being so horrible I have to retouch them. Take your time in the lines, rest if needed and if you feel you lose focus, focus on something else or leave the work by aside. Your linework will thank you for it.

No. 1624757

>>1624753
Thank you, rushing might be a big part of my problem now when I think about it, so I'll definitely take your advice to heart, thank you for the video as well!

No. 1624776

Is anyone doing artfight? haven't seen any nona talking about it.

No. 1624779

>>1624776
Yes. I wish I could find my nonnies there and draw for them, at least I'm seeing a lot less xey/xir 14 y/o and more actual artists this year.

No. 1624785

>>1624776
I made a account but I really don't want to draw a troon.

No. 1624790

>>1624757
Yeah, I think is mostly for these speedpaint videos that people think artists, in general, work quite fast when in reality they're trying to be quiet and calm during a lineart or a coloring. Taking your time in art is helpful for both your mind and body.

No. 1624847

>>1624594
>>1624612
this feels worse than the guys that just draw anime women, at least they pretend they are 18+

No. 1624849

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>have a clear idea of how i want to draw in my mind
>i am decades away from reaching that level
how do nonnies cope with this feeling? I really dont enjoy anything i draw, i just see it as small steps towards a goal that i might never ever reach

No. 1624864

>>1624859
her style is so ugly, every piece she makes feels like a ych

No. 1624869

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>>1624859
>15yr
why is this person on nsfw accounts and writing "callout" posts on them, with no one saying shit? this shit is inappropriate. i honestly hate both the antishippers/proship "communities". just a bunch of creeps and their victims slapfighting

No. 1624877

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Homunculus100 deleted all her twt accounts following a callout made by a teenager lmao

No. 1624884

>>1624849
Remember that every artist you like probably feels the same, it's just part of being an artist. Just keep practicing and drawing and honor the effort of what you can make now

No. 1624888

>>1624877
I'm seeing some posts saying she was suspended. either way
>making her delete/spam reporting
>poop-touching/cowtipping
What's the point of this? Did homunculus ever actually harass or harm anybody, or did this woman just (allegedly) chop off her own leg and draw fetish art? The internet is full of deranged people, that's literally how it's supposed to be. No one actually wants whatever boring Genshin Impact softboi nonbinary slopspace these people are trying to create. Wish they'd learn to stop putting every autistic person who draws on blast like they're "busting" evildoers, and just discuss things in their group chats. Unless they're actually malicious, you're supposed to quietly block them if they disturb you, or have a laugh if they entertain you.

No. 1624894

>>1624888
i agree with you but also if you are going to draw amputee rape porn you better develop a backbone

No. 1624903

>>1624869
>They/It
I don’t know much about this amputee person besides these threads but if she has BIID like anons theorize, shouldn’t these trannies be accepting? It’s the same thing as trannies, people who believe they have wrong body parts. Why is it okay for someone to want to remove their healthy breasts or genitalia, but not okay for someone to want to remove a healthy arm or leg? Troons themselves fetishize their surgeries all the time and will groom each other into getting their healthy bodies permanently changed.
>>1624894
Fetish freaks should just post somewhere besides Twitter, I wish they’d go back to their forums and shit but they are too attention seeking.

No. 1624906

>>1624903
twitter is for freaks, its owned by a freak whos into incest anime. Normies should go back to touching grass, getting laid and having happy families.

No. 1624909

>>1624903
Twitter has been pandering to freaks for decades. Stay off the freak side and stay on the "normal" side if you're too sensitive.

No. 1624911

>>1624877
Not deleted, suspended. I also have doubts that there's actual BIID, more like an amputee with a sense of humor after years of living without a leg.

No. 1624916

>>1624911
Didn't someone find her old blogs tho?

No. 1624943

>>1624925
What the fuck. Do we have proof that there was actually amputation and that the most recent selfie wasn't shooped?

>>1624916
Did the old blogs document this? I only saw the one selfie that didn't show legs. Now I'm thinking this may be horrorcow territory because….

No. 1624947

Anon you deleted post. Why?

No. 1624954

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Reposted selfie with both legs. Just wanted to double check this was the same person. These are both her (now deleted) archived blogs.
Main : web.archive.org/web/20210108134653/https://sol--lux.tumblr.com/
Personal: web.archive.org/web/20160612073545/http://kellan-ebooks.tumblr.com/aboutme

No. 1624959

>>1624954
Is this the only non-drawn image that alludes to amputation? What the hell

No. 1624976

>>1624954
>Karamatsu shirt
It's always people in that fandom the most deranged for some reason

No. 1624991

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>>1624903
You're actually right and there seems to be a lot of support for this person past the normies going "lol wtf did I just read"

No. 1625000

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>>1624959
That's the only selfie I could find while lurking. Shes posted pictures of herself with several bags of dry ice and tools from home depot but those seem to be lost.
It seems to have been the leg she had grafted from phalloplasty

No. 1625005

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nonnies, I can't bear to pick up my pen because I fucking despise my own art. Whenever I even think about drawing I just think "eh, it'll be ugly anyway" and put a stopper in it

and whenever i see someone be like "i love to draw!" i only think, "shit i wish that were me"

can't get inspired, since looking at my favourite godly eastern artists makes me more depressed that i'll never reach that level

i don't value technical/rendering skill over style, but every time i draw, i forgo stylist choices in favour of perfection because i feel like the only way to 'prove' i'm a 'good' artist is to be perfect, even though i know that isn't the slightest bit true

feels like i'm just slugging around in the dark. i hoard a million classes but the information just goes through me

No. 1625015

>>1624906
>Quoting elon musk
Go back
>>1624888
This is lolcow. If you cut off your own leg due to coomerisms, you deserve to be made fun of. This is not one of those "making fun of le autistic women" things

No. 1625019

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No. 1625020

>>1625015
Samefagging, but it's even more insane how people like the pic in >>1624991 are defending her. It's always the people with "proud freak" in their bio that will jump to defend anyone like this. You could call someone out for a crime but if you mention the words "they draw pedoshit" suddenly a thousand proship clones spawn in the quotes to defend them.
>>1625019
Then what was your point? You're complaining about putting people on blast on a website dedicated to lolcows.

No. 1625023

>>1625020
she was talking about twitter, not lc. Learn to read.

No. 1625026

>>1625023
And I meant it's not surprising they're being called out because they're fucking weird(not just on lolcow). Even if it's on twitter, the normal reaction to this would be "ew they're a freak" not "leave them alone"

No. 1625028

>>1625026
no one cares what twitterfags think, this is an image board and the rules are not to cowtip. It's understandable that anon is angry, most cows nowadays are boring because twitterfags attack them until they lock up their accounts. Twitterfags ruin everything and just make the internet boring. It's the internet, it shouldnt be an adult daycare for normalfags.

No. 1625034

>>1625000
JESUS CHRIST

No. 1625038

>>1625026
I hate that being "weird" has become an offense to get called out over. That 15 year old should have actually left the artist alone instead of snooping through the account and sharing with all their, probably also minor, followers. You can react with "ew they're a freak" and block and move on, >>1625028 is right

No. 1625044

>>1625028
sure, cowtipping is bad and against the rules, but it wasn't like this information wasn't public to begin with
>>1625038
cutting your leg off isn't just weird, they are a genuine freak who needs mental help. there's nothing wrong with calling out degenerates like that online, especially if you're just making a post to let people know about the people behind the accounts you're retweeting from

No. 1625066

>>1625044
why do people jump out into conclussions? we dont know if she cut her legs off, for all we know she had an illness and coped with vent/gore art. It's the fucking furry amputee shit again, people started spreading he cut his hands off because of a fetish but in reality he had very heavy arthritis and sadly fell asleep with his hands on ice. Also, it's twitter, if you check the pages of the people calling homunculos out you will see tranny flags and rts of characters with masectomy scars. But i guess cutting your legs for a fetish=bad, gross weirdo get cancelled but cutting your tits for a fetish=good, omg so valid.

No. 1625070

speaking of twitterfags i will never not be angry for them making manga materials quit. I am glad she's back posting on youtube, her channel is one of the best resources on drawing.

No. 1625072

>>1625026
>Even if it's on twitter, the normal reaction to this would be "ew they're a freak" not "leave them alone"
You can do both, idiot. You can think someone is a freak and leave them alone. If they're not causing any direct harm to the people around them and are just minding their own business then who gives a fuck about what degeneracy they practice. Just observe the subject in silence and don't engage with them. Cowtipping is retarded and banned for a reason, if you feel like someone is doing something illegal then you should report them to the police or the very least the twitter staff, not go be a sperg in their mentions.

No. 1625074

>>1625070
also, she sounds so depressing in this video compared to older ones. Fucking hate western twitter.

No. 1625076

>>1624349
In addition to theory try to study paintings you like the colors of, color theory can only give you a basic framework, but you have to figure out what you like and how to get there for yourself.

Some exercises that have helped me:

Go through your favorite paintings and look at the colors and how they relate. Whats used for the light side what's used for the dark side? How strong is the hue shift? Is there a clear primary color?

Try to create an abstract copy of the painting without color picking, just copying the colors by eye. Where did you go wrong doing this?

Make your own painting using the same colors as your abstract copy. Did you capture the same vibe?

No. 1625077

>>1625070
Holy shit that male anatomy, most twitfags could never get there.

No. 1625079

>>1625077
yeah, her knowledge of anatomy is insane. I kinda wish i knew her art account, she draws really cute guys

No. 1625082

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Trannys in my art circle are starting to suspect that I'm a TERF nonas. Any suggestions for not too cringe tranny adjacent art I can post for a few weeks to get some heat off me? I don't want to do shit like transmasc Gwen Stacy. Genderbent or GNC Pav, perhaps?

No. 1625086

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No. 1625094

>>1625082
Just draw a cute looking cat girl (and call it a boy) and call it a day. Never bend to the troons

No. 1625100

>>1625082
Just draw what you like and if they outright accuse you then just play dumb. If you don’t say anything blatantly TERFy they have no evidence and they’ll only sound foolish for accusing you based on a hunch.

No. 1625129

>>1625015
>>1625020
>>1625026
You are a retarded twitterfag. Maybe you'll understand what we're trying to say when you mature past 15. I know you hate to hear it, but you're literally too dumb and immature.

No. 1625132

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how the fuck do i tackle figure drawing nonnies? i have tried several times, watched hampton, but it still doesnt click with me. It doesnt help that in every video demostration they go with very easy poses, but everytime i try to do figure drawing sessions they NEVER have easy poses. I tried hampton's approach and i dont understand how to employ it in poses that arent highly dynamic or where the models arent contorting like slugs.

No. 1625153

>>1625082
grow a spine, nobody can make you draw tranny shit. plus if they're questioning, it'll only just look forced

No. 1625160

>>1625038
>snooping through the account
The account was full of weird fetish shit, wasn't it? As far as we know this 15yo didn't need to do any snooping and the account just popped on their feed because of a bunch of other people were already gawking at it. Someone who saw that art by itself could mistake it for wholesome uplifting art, I can't fault the kid for pointing out the obvious. The only good argument is that the avarage Twitter user will support mastectomy and sex change surgeries, thus have no place criticizing a transabled freak.

No. 1625168

>>1625132
Try doing timed exercises first. 30 to 60 seconds per figure at most, no erasing. Do it for 10 or 20 minutes every day to get used to it. At first it'll be difficult to get much done, but with practice you will be able to put down the general shapes of a pose with only a few quick lines. If you've only watched the process it might be too hard to translate it into your own work without developing the necessary feeling for it

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>>1625168
that's the point, i have been doing it for a while and i feel no improvement, i cannot understand it

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>>1625160
I don't think this info is from a quick glance. And that kid is getting bullied off twitter now kek it's always better to just mind your own business or talk to friends about this kind of stuff if you need to "warn" them so badly. Twitter even has that circles option to keep things more private. Anything will randomly blow up on that site and users should be aware of it by now

No. 1625180

>>1625176
Huh, maybe do more general anatomy studies afterwards or try to draw figures from memory more often. It's difficult for me to understand which part you don't grasp. The body is made up of the same general shapes every time, maybe taking a photo and breaking it down will help you visualize them better? And if Hampton's approach doesn't work for you, you can try others or even try it without a set plan and attempt to figure out yourself what makes the most sense for you

No. 1625185

>>1624888
After zoomers accomplish the important task of cleansing the internet of "freaks" I wonder where they'll get their dopamine hit next. Can't wait for Gen A to grow into hateful teens and go after them. Purity culture eats itself.

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>>1625026
This is why we never get any good cows anymore

No. 1625223

>>1625066
i get you're trying to defend a potential lost cow but nobody falls asleep touching dry ice nona
that furry guy was doing it for the fetish 100%

No. 1625226

>>1625185
I'm guessing they aren't even thinking that far ahead but it would be so fucking funny if Gen A became extremely edgy as a result of all this

No. 1625247

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No. 1625282

>>1625072
cowtipping is bad, but this one was inevitable because it's not like their account is private. they're pretty public about their fetishes.

>>1625129
enlighten me on what you mean then. pleaae use 5 words max or my twitterbrain will combust nonnie

>>1625066
read through the last thread, there was evidence posted a long while ago.

No. 1625323

>>1625282
Nta but this >>>/ot/1577127 isn't really evidence of anything. The longer I look at it the less coomerish it feels and for all you know that leg could've had issues that just weren't included in artworks. And even if there weren't any, what does it matter to you? I also think it's weird behaviour and would've blocked if I ever saw that shit on twitter but does your life improve that much when some random artist deletes their account? Are your hands shaking a little less now during your daily 16 hours of scrolling?

No. 1625337

>>1625323
Look beyond that 1 thread nona. There's per-transition pictures and others with their healthy leg. They still had a leg when they were posting their shota amputee art and only got it cut off not too long ago. Don't know why so many anons are whiteknighting this random twitter user.

No. 1625338

>>1625337
*Pre-transition, sorry.

No. 1625345

>>1625070
What!! Did she quit again?

No. 1625348

>>1625337
Still doesn't mean they couldn't have gotten some health issues in the time between posts. I'm not trying to whiteknight, I really don't care about the artist, it's just not that strange to me after all the freak shit I've seen online and I dislike callout culture when it's targeted towards someone who's not actively doing harm to others. That energy can and should be spent elsewhere, just mind your own business.

No. 1625349

>>1625082
Just draw whatever the fuck you want. You'll learn their opinions are worth less than shit.

No. 1625355

>>1625348
Really convenient for someone with an amputee fetish to suddenly get a health problem that only effects their lower leg. Unless they're some sort of diabetic, I find it hard to believe this is vent or cope art, especially if it's been something they've been obsessed about for years. If you draw yourself daydreaming about chopping your leg off, and then in the hospital bed with your doctor, thankful they were able to give you this procedure that no one else is willing to give you because of your BIID, then you can't be upset if people think you cut your leg off for kink purposes. The way you represent yourself and your life experiences online will change how people think about you.
>it's just not that strange to me after all the freak shit I've seen online
If cutting your own leg off because it gets you wet isn't freak shit to you, then I'd love to hear what is. You have a good heart and I'm sure you're not defending them for the wrong reasons, but at least read up on the last threads because you try and say they didn't do anything.

No. 1625359

>>1625355
There's some whiteknight going around claiming there's Telegram evidence of Homie saying it was cancer, but of course won't show the receipts. Knowing how the group with Stinky could manipulate people and lie, and this being fairly recent…

No. 1625360

>>1625005
just fucking draw something already

No. 1625364

>>1625337
Honestly, what's with the white knighting? No one here is celebrating that her account was suspended.

No. 1625367

>>1625355
Who cares? We're meant to have freaks on the internet. Go hang out on mormons.com if you're too delicate for all this.

No. 1625368

>>1625367
And what's the point of having freaks on the internet if we can't point at them and laugh (or in this case stare in horror)?

No. 1625370

>>1625367
>We're meant to have freaks on the internet.
Freaks shouldn't even exist tbh when you think about it

No. 1625371

>>1625368
That's what everyone's trying to tell the twitterfags who want to write callout posts and ruin the milk.

No. 1625372

>>1625370
Okay mormon

No. 1625373

>>1624743
Fuck, I relate so much. Lineart is my primary focus and I love making detailed pieces but torture myself in the process because I get obsessed with any little flaw I see. I have to force myself to take breaks a lot so I can see things with fresh eyes and sometimes it feels like I was making up problems in my head when focusing for too long. I wish I could be like artists who have sketchier or more casual lineart, but it’s like the only thing I’m decent at and idk how to ease up with it or escape my curse.

No. 1625387

>>1625372
>mormon is when you hate body mutilation and pedoshit
Are you a tranny?
>>1624743
Absolutely. I would say try different brushes to see what one best fits your art style. Sometimes the sketchy style can look good if you're using the right brush, even if it's not your intention. Also turning up your stabilizer helps too.

No. 1625388


No. 1625390

>>1625388
>calling people mormons for not liking freaks
>freak in question is a body mutilating pedo tif
What did nonna mean by this?

No. 1625396

>>1625390
>liking
This is the eternal 14 year old theyby problem, extreme black and white thinking and need to seek attention by "cancelling" whatever they don't like

No. 1625397

>>1625394
The actual leg loss seems to have happened last year though there's now some whiteknight story going around that it was lost from cancer in youth.

No. 1625398

>>1625396
>what they don't like
>body mutilating pedo tif

No. 1625401

>>1625398
All the other trannies you stan and insist are totes valid are also fujo/age gap shippers chopping off their healthy tits and other appendages.

No. 1625402

>>1625371
>>1625368
Minors on twitter want to talk shit about others so badly and that's why they need their own kind of gossip page. Putting it all on the same social media where the original artist can see is stupid as hell, if anything the artist will notice and feel bad and then delete. Plus the callouts require a moral reasoning that will always make it a more difficult situation for the accused. They are all itching to bully someone, just saying you dislike something is never enough though, it has to be justified or you will look like the bad guy. But then that kid got bullied in turn and left the site and none of this would have happened if it had stayed contained to some other corner of the internet where no one could have tied it back to anyone.

>>1625394

>drawing
It's a drawing anon. That can be evidence of a desire but not proof of anything actually happening and it also seems mentally ill but not sexual. Calm down now.

No. 1625407

>>1625401
>All the other trannies you stan
Who?

No. 1625422

>>1624954
A man wouldn’t post cute comics about her amputation. I’m laughing at anyone on Twitblr defending her. I don’t know if she’s gay or not but she draws her comics as being the little one or she’s the big one in the relationship. Confusing but that’s par for the course for these types of women. I think she’s just porn sick.

No. 1625431

>>1625070
Why were they bullying her?

No. 1625437

>>1625396
>>1625401
What are you talking about? Fujos and age gap shippers are not the only twitter users in the world schizo.
>>1625422
This. I think she is gay because her girlfriend was the smaller character she would always draw, who then also became a tif.
>>1625431
iirc she made a reference to using skulls to proportionately draw characters. Skull talk is usually done by those racist /pol/ scrotes, but I don't think she meant any harm by it. Of course people thought she did and got mad, but who knows if that's what really drew her away. She's an eastern artist so it could've been something else entirely that we don't know

No. 1625460

>>1625431
NTA but I think she first deleted her Twitter account because shitty artists with "it's muh style I don't need to change anything" hated that she kept making tutorials that implied they were doing things wrong. That's just from what I remember though

No. 1625464

>>1625407
>>1625437
Lolcow is an 18+ website

No. 1625467

>>1624877
Lmfao at some QRTs "Hum stop spreading misinformation it was cancer and totally not fetish because someone saw him talking about it once maybe on telegram"

No. 1625469

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with homuculus deleting I can now finally understand there has been no milk in art thread for a decade thanks to teenagers lurking and cowtiping us all, any nona with me on this?

No. 1625472

>>1625469
Exactly. And they think they're being edgy by coming here to post "O-ok but cows and insane people should all disappear!" when we point it out. Like no, you fucking moron. You should've stayed on Club Penguin.

No. 1625484

>>1624790
You are on to something there. I watched a lot of sped up videos of people doing painting and lines and for a while I found myself mimicking those movements for some reason, despite knowing that the footage was sped up by a lot. I started watching people doing lineart at normal speed through their streams and learned that it's a very slow and calm process for them indeed. Slow and steady wins the race.

No. 1625490

>>1625464
>>1625472
>>1625469
Lolcow is not a hivemind, people with different opinions to you exist. Not everyone you disagree with is a twitterfag, use your common sense.

No. 1625495

>>1625490
Act like a twitterfag, get treated like one.(non-contribution)

No. 1625498

>>1625495
Being so angry at one or two anons that you think everyone but you is a twitterfag is retard behavior. Post milk or move the fuck on.

No. 1625500

>>1625498
Enough projecting, people pointing out the truth isn't "angry". We can't post milk if retards cowtip because they don't understand imageboards.

No. 1625501

>>1625500
We don't even know if someone cowtipped, and if they did then fuck them but we can't go back in time and stop it from happening. There is no projection, there is no "truth" it's all just opinions.
Move the fuck on.

No. 1625505

>>1625501
>We don't even know if someone cowtipped,
Lol yeah, just like homie "totally just had cancer". If you feel so pressed to respond telling everyone to stop discussing something on-topic and milk-related, you're the one who needs to move on.

No. 1625506

>>1625472
Look nonna I'm >>1625370 and what I meant by that is that you're perhaps taking the internet too seriously, saying that the internet is supposed to be full of freaks was pretty weird. It is not normal to be a freak and the internet was not made for them.
But that doesn't mean I'm a Twitterfag who thinks homunculus100 must be punished for having a nightmarish self-harm fetish, nor would I ever interact with her or cowtip. Ironically you are the one with black-and-white thinking, since you automatically assume so many things about me and the other anon just for slightly disagreeing with you on one thing. Clearly I don't support trannies, and instead see the obvious hypocrisy in how they think homunculus is a terrible person for wanting to chop her leg off but think doing the same to breasts is perfectly fine, and I'm sure the other anon feels the same way.
I also enjoy (in a morbidly curious way) reading about her in this thread just like you.

No. 1625512

>>1625505
Okay, so someone cowtipped, now what? We spend the whole thread infighting and complaining? Do you see the problem here?

No. 1625514

>>1625495
You're so intimidating.(non-contribution)

No. 1625516

>>1625506
>saying that the internet is supposed to be full of freaks was pretty weird. It is not normal to be a freak and the internet was not made for them.
if "being a freak is normal" was your takeaway from that statement, you don't actually like having cows, and you probably don't have much morbid curiosity.

No. 1625518

>>1625490
Are you the same nonnie as this one?? >>1625129
Okay, I don't know what's your problem because I've seen you only argued in circles with other anons.
We're just frustrated at losing another cow… for now the only conclusion we have is some anon must've cowtipped and made it public on twitter. This is not directed at you. A lot of us do rely on twitter to promote commissions despite hating the site.
Take your meds if you continue to derail anon.

No. 1625520

>>1625518
Genuine schizo. But I don't get your point, no one has argued against cowtipping being wrong.

No. 1625521

>>1625506
>It is not normal to be a freak
Nta but only underage twitter users could type out something as braindead as this. Early internet was full of weirdos because normal people didn't have to spend time online since they had real lives to take care of. And you can't pretend that anyone making callouts cares about the mental wellbeing of the person they are talking about or even wants the internet to be better. All they want is someone to laugh at with their friends or look at in horror and that's why they can't move on after seeing the posts and just have to dig deeper and then share with the world. What anons are complaining about is this weird need to point the finger

No. 1625522

>>1625512
Who (supposedly) cowtipped? As in, where's the post or cap indicating that?

No. 1625523

>>1625521
They made a callout to inform people who they were retweeting from, there is no 14 year old boogieman out to get you unless you have something to hide. You should not be praising the internet for having freaks unless you are a freak yourself.

No. 1625528

>>1625523
Insane statement and there was no praise, that's just how it is. The issue is that these kids and young adults will find problems with anything as long as this behaviour is encouraged and they'll call even the most harmless things weird or freakish, see recent spiderverse bullshit.

No. 1625530

>>1625528
There's a difference between calling out people for stupid shit like yaoi art and calling someone out for being a self-mutilating pedo. Obviously there's people who don't deserve to be dogpiled and harassed, but I'm not afraid of looking the other way if someone calls out someone like humonculus. If you draw art like that, as >>1624894 said, you gotta realize the general public does not think that art is normal.

No. 1625534

>>1625070
I thought she returned to twitter a few years back with antidepressant and a translator/assistant to her tutorials? What makes her leave again?

No. 1625535

>>1625521
>And you can't pretend that anyone making callouts cares about the mental wellbeing of the person they are talking about or even wants the internet to be better.
I don't even know what you're talking about kek. Again you're just assuming stuff. Legit I'm not even arguing about any of that. I probably agree with you, but you think just because I said freaks aren't normal (they objectively aren't, that's why they're freaks, people with amputation fetishes are not normal, and that's why we're so fascinated by homunculus100) I must be one of them Twitterfags living rent free in your head.
Also the internet was not made for freaks, they just populated the internet because they had nowhere else to go like you said. It doesn't mean we should all be ok with them or pretend they're normal (but no, I'm not going to make callout posts or report freaks for being freaks either. I hope you don't ignore this part and keep implying I support twitterfag behavior, because I clearly don't).

No. 1625546

Late as fuck but I saw people talking about the Vani/Aspen_Eyes drama last thread and I have a bunch of dirt on them.

Aspen's an nlog they/them who called herself gay for years before hooking up with some deadbeat in a relationship and then started dating him when he dumped his gf for her. She moved in with him and all he did was smoke weed and sit around all day while she was working a bunch of jobs on top of commissions to survive and doing all the housework while he let his mother verbally abuse her. She's a BPDchan so has a history of obsessing over random people and creeping them out until she alienates herself from an entire friend group and moves onto the next, as well as hopping from one extreme identity to another. She used to be a hardcore Christian before getting really into astrology and blamed literally everything on the position of the planets or whatever. Is currently really into larping as an antifa but also got into antivaxx stuff during lockdown. I think she was doing literally everything besides getting vaccinated against covid and still caught it anyway so now she gets to larp as having long covid/brain fog on top of her ADHD she uses as an excuse for everything.

Vani/Luxe also has a long long history of drama which was touched on. She has a history of dropping a username and making a new account when too many callouts catch up to her but I think she must still owe thousands of dollars in commissions. Of course furries are retarded and will still blindly support someone just because they draw well so she'll keep getting away with it. The girl literally makes thousands a month off of her furry bases alone but still manages to constantly be in debt because she insists on living in places she can't afford and buying expensive pedigree animals.

The two of them are retards who have always made bad decisions and the fact they're living together now is absolutely hilarious. Oh yeah, Aspen is also besties with a male NB sexpest who sexually harasses female artists and lovebombs teenage girls and mails them gifts irl. He's sent several women porn and irl is a massive hulking ogre of a scrote. I know I'm vendetta posting now but fuck them. Sage because no screenshots to back any of this up.

No. 1625547

>>1624991
AYRT, I love how that person is almost realizing that supporting transgenderism is just a trend and people only do it to look good. So so close. Also kek damn I realize I said “freak” first itt and I am sorry that you’ve all had to read it 29 more times from other anons. I accidentally spreaded Twitterfag lingo like an std.
>>1625437
I understand why so many Eastern artists just delete their account when they get negative attention from retards but it still makes me a little sad. What even happens after that, do they ever just quietly open up new accounts?

No. 1625565

>>1624877
Homunculus is a biological man, not a woman. Has cock and balls confirmed.

No. 1625566

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>>1625547
Sometimes they just move on. I'm black myself, but I think people call these artists out and dogpile them just to be rude rather than give them actual advice. A while back there was this artist (Fieroo) that got harassed on twitter for this picture, and for miles being too light. I agree he looked pretty light, but it's also because of the way blue light reflects on dark skin. The artist moved on though and improved their way of drawing people with darker skin. So there's some artists that take the criticsm (or harassment in some cases) and continue with their art, but I know others just vanish, which is pretty depressing.

No. 1625567

>>1625177
Kids are annoying.(non-contribution)

No. 1625569

>>1625355
We still don't know if it's a photoshop job fyi. Nobody fucking posts any pics here

No. 1625570

>>1625437
>skull shapes
But there are differences between skull shapes. It’s nothing about intelligence but the differences between man and woman also extends to races. I bought a skull online to practice drawing and it was bigger than a female skull and after looking up information I determined it was probably based on a black male. You can order other skull sizes as well. That’s regarded she got bullied for trying to explain differences but again you also get bullied for explaining differences between the sexes. I’m glad it seems like she’s back. Sucks she has to deal with a language barrier and harassment from dummies.

No. 1625571

>comes onto art salt after a long while
>meta infighting about whether cows should be allowed to exist

Pls, more than one thing can be true at a time. Depending on the severity of the cow of course it's not a good thing for them to exist, but that's also exactly why we laugh at them. And moralfagging twittard zoomers "cancelling" them does ruin the fun, though at least a positive of that is one less amputee fetishist tif or who the fuck ever publicly assaulting our eyes.

Anyways, what I came on here for: I want to get into customising clothes and maybe even take commissions on it, but I only have experience painting on canvas. Apart from stuff like prepping and sealing, and not painting in areas that get a lot of movement, is there anything else I need to know about it that's different from regular painting? Thanks!

No. 1625573

>>1625506
>the internet was not made for them
The internet was literally built by and kept afloat because of them, retard.

No. 1625574

>>1625573
like who

No. 1625583

>>1625565
Proof
>>1625566
True but that doesn’t read as black skin at all to me because the base color looks pale. I thought it was some Kpop/generic asian pretty boy before I read the text. I think for a lot of artists they pick one thing they love and then find it hard to deviate. They then have to worry about being harassed if they try to learn in a public setting. And then you get the “not black enough/too black” issues too. No wonder most women stick to K-pop now a days. I hate Kpop but I can understand the appeal since America has no boy bands anymore.

No. 1625589

>>1625574
Am I conversing with a toddler?

No. 1625590

>>1625565
No, they have phallo.

No. 1625591

>>1625566
This kind of thing sucks because sometimes eastern artists really don't know how to depict dark-skinned people, and end up making them just slightly darker than their usual pale characters. For many of them, they really are too used to making their characters as pale as possible and emphasizing it, a lot of gorgeous eastern art is focused on emphasizing porcelain-like skin. But western Twitter "artists" blow it out of proportion and harass these artists for that mistake (even though there were no bad intentions on the artist's part, they just need more practice), never letting them live it down, and then many people on the opposite side of the argument end up dismissing perfectly valid criticism as SJW nonsense.
For the record, I've seen plenty of Japanese artists who can draw characters of different skin shades. So it's not all of them who have issues coloring dark skin (it seems to be mostly those whose regular art emphasizes paleness), and sometimes it really is the lighting, or fancy editing and color effects that lower contrast in the whole picture, that make it look like the artist used the wrong shade. In your pic it's obvious (imo) that the character is supposed to be black but he's still lighter than in canon, A bit of practice and study would fix it.

No. 1625595

>>1625589
If you claim the internet is ran by freaks and can't even name 1, then I don't think you know what you're arguing.

>>1625591
Study would most definetely fix it. There are eastern artists who can beautifully draw dark skins, such as CreamyGhost on Twitter, or even Pigeon86 for that matter. But there are also many who paint dark skin as lighter than it is or in that sort of grey tone. I applaud them for at least trying to expand their reaches though, even if it isn't exactly accurate to canon. Their amazing rendering is worth looking over the skin color issue to me.

No. 1625606

>>1625512
>three posts you don't like
>whole thrad
Stop being so dramatic.

No. 1625610

>>1625606
atp you have to be baiting or purposely trying to infight kek

No. 1625614

>>1625610
People are allowed to not agree with you, this is not a hivemind.

No. 1625616

>>1625614
People can disagree but to continue fighting and repeating the same points over and over again is autistic

No. 1625626

>>1625616
>>1625606 isn't a repeat of anything.

No. 1625628

>>1625626
Because there was literally no point, all they said was the anon was being dramatic. There's no argument or anything, just name calling like an immature teenager.

No. 1625632

>>1625628
The point is that three posts is not the "whole thread", and saying "Stop being dramatic" isn't name-calling, calm down.
>just name calling like an immature teenager.
The irony, kek

No. 1625637

>>1625632
>nitpicking a post to find something to complain about
take a step away from the thread and breathe nonnie

No. 1625642

>>1625637
Now this is trying to infight lmao

No. 1625643

>>1625565
No, she's definitely a woman. She drew vent art about being a TIF.

No. 1625644

>>1625595
How long have you been on the internet? Do you not remember what it used to be like? All the fringe groups, the fact that most devs are pornsick coomers, etc. Do you think that Bill gates sits at a round table with upstanding techies in business suits and they're the ones who made your browser, your OS? Get real. This is common knowledge. Your opinions are retarded.

No. 1625645

>>1625642
you can keep replying, your points are retarded because you have nothing left to say. cope and seethe, or get a job

No. 1625648

>>1625644
Just because they're freaks doesn't mean it should be accepted, and that's speculation, not proof. I don't doubt they're likely weird in private, but they're incomparable to shotacon tif body mutilators on twitter.

No. 1625654

>>1625645
Absolute schizo mode. Not sure why you targeted me, but get help. Feel free to reply again, I know you're chomping at the bit.
Anyway, as long as it's ontopic (which homunculus obviously is), we can discuss art cows and their drama as we want.

No. 1625667

>>1625648
Oh my god you are such a baby.

No. 1625668

>>1625654
Because you replied to me retard, and this discussion has added no milk. People are pointing fingers and arguing over opinions atp.(infighting)

No. 1625670

>>1625654
>>1625668
Samefag, but exhibit A >>1625667

No. 1625676

>>1625672
>"muhhh underage Twitter fag"
There is more than one person who disagrees with you.

No. 1625679

>>1625667
They honestly sound like a literal underage autist struggling to fit in and trying to play minimod. Doesn't help they admitted to making multiple posts yelling at people for not sharing their opinion.

No. 1625681

>>1625648
>tif body mutilators

That's every TiF, so what makes this leg amputee qualify as a freak. It's funny to laugh at people like this on the internet, but they don't deserve a cancelling crusade by self-righteous 15 year olds because they find this particular person weirder than the genderspecials they're all friends with. Go after actual criminals during your summer break.

No. 1625682

>>1625005
Everyone has ugly art phases, nonny,it's fine.Use this time to mess with experimental techniques, mediums, brushes, whatever and focus more on playing rather than creating a visually appealing masterpiece. I guarantee that those amazing artists you like have folders of unfinished art files that will never see the light of day because their vision just couldn't translate well to canvas. It's normal and happens to everyone! You'll be okay and make good art, don't worry

No. 1625692

>>1625681
then she needs to grow a backbone. tifs are freaks, body mutilators are freaks, who cares. the post was uncalled for but they were pretty proud about their kink and they have a sizeable following none the less. after they come back from suspension they'll continue posting like normal.

No. 1625695

>>1625681
>deserve a cancelling crusade by self-righteous 15 year olds because they find this particular person weirder than the genderspecials they're all friends with
Is this what this whole infight is about? No one even said this, there are no self-righteous 15 year olds here wanting to cancel a random freak. Just calm down.

No. 1625707

>>1625695
nta but any discussion that upsets you isn't an "infight", chill

No. 1625713

>>1625707
This is very clearly an infight, nonny.

No. 1625727

>>1625713
I bet it's the 15 year old that made the tweet, just ignore. Children shouldn't be allowed to interact with adults on twitter

No. 1625728

>>1625402
Callout posts are almost always moral based.

ngl, unless there is definitive proof it was cancer or purely for a fetish we won't know based on their art. They could be someone with a fetish, someone suffering from a legitimate MI, or someone who lost their leg and has a sense of humor or sexualizes themselves over it.

Either way, whether it was from cancer or because they just wanted to have it chopped off, it ain't got shit to do with anyone else. Yeah they can be considered weird, a freak, etc. but you can also just… leave people alone. I thought their art was weird, so the solution? I just didn't follow them. I didn't have to make up things or spread rumors based on speculation about their art and what it means. I don't live in their head and don't intend to so I don't try to.

If a grown ass adult decides they want to have their leg removed just because so it be. It has no impact on anyone other than them and they aren't trying to hurt other people. So many people have this weirdly parasocial nature with complete strangers they aren't even fans of to the point they have to witch-hunt over weird art.

Maybe its because i'm becoming a boomer but I cannot imagine having the energy to care what someone does with their own body or what kind of art they make unless they're trying to or otherwise causing direct harm to other people.

No. 1625732

>>1625727
it's the opposite, i'm saying the people defending the callout post and getting upset about those of us here discussing it need to chill.

No. 1625749

>>1625643
>>1625590
Proof on these? In any capacity? Or just more assumptions? Sauce

No. 1625752

>>1625749
Homie went into deep detail as Kellmatsu and bragged about how the phallo needed a circumcision before sex with Stinky could be possible.
A skin graft got taken from the left arm to use for the phallo, and then skin from the left thigh was grafted to the arm to cover that up.

No. 1625755

>>1625727
ayrt, I agree with that anon you believe is the "15 year old who made the tweet"

No. 1625756

>>1625752
hold up sorry new anon do you have any SSs of this because you're telling me homie fucked todokaras? were they dating? you cant just drop that and go

No. 1625761

>>1625749
I think the KF thread had a SS of Homie talking about circumcision. The two weren't dating but Stinky talked of wanting to fuck Homie and Homie made those comments. Farmers assumed Homie was cis iirc.

No. 1625764

>>1625755
Oh I do too, I just got confused in the crossfire and thought they were the whinger

No. 1625766

>>1625082
Honestly I found more normie art circle and this hasn't been an issue for me. Idk if you're good friends with these people but if you're not it may be worth it just to find slightly more like minded people of you can and move on from them. Saying this as someone who had to do this and it honestly made me less stressed out being around regular people

No. 1625779

>>1625752
>>1625761
……..are you guys talking about todokaras?

No. 1625780

>>1625779
Homie and todokaras were tight, that much is confirmed. Now there seems to be some debate on homie likely having phallo and maybe fucking todokaras, but there are no pics to prove it unless someone can unearth something to show definitively

No. 1625787

>>1625749
The bottom surgery tweets were maybe 2016, it's been so long but the description of the patch jobs with the skin is still fresh in mind.
Homie talked about it to Nhaingen and others, and the more recent art of scars referenced both the phallo and the thigh/arm skin patches.

No. 1625790

>>1625728
>If a grown ass adult decides they want to have their leg removed just because so it be. It has no impact on anyone other than them and they aren't trying to hurt other people. So many people have this weirdly parasocial nature with complete strangers they aren't even fans of to the point they have to witch-hunt over weird art.
I've suspected that this thread and a few others have been infiltrated by twitterfags for a while but this confirms it. This is a gossip forum. We talk about weird people and lolcows. If that bothers you you're welcome to go back to wherever you came from.

No. 1625796

>>1625790
Nta but that itself wasn't even a Twitter take, it seemed more like it was chiding their dopamine-grab at canceling them.

No. 1625815

>>1625796
Anon the above was replying too but basically this.

You can talk shit on lolcow, it isn't "canceling" anyone but the call out posts and canceling someone based on weirdly parasocial relationships goes beyond just talking shit about a weirdo on a niche gossip forum.

No. 1625825

>>1625815
That callout post wasn't parasocial at all. No one here has a parasocial relationship with him (at least one that we can see in the thread).

No. 1625828

>>1625766
nta, but i've had such a hard time doing this. im sure it's silly to ask, but how did you do this? i feel like i've just been throwing darts in the dark

No. 1625857

>>1625728
Jesus Christ twitterfags act like they’re holier than thou and all about autonomy when they’re just spineless enablers.

No. 1625862

>>1625355
ok twitter fag then tells us why her chopping her tits off isnt worthy of getting cancelled over but fantasizing about cutting her legs is? she was already a frankenstein monster propagating self harm before. If instead drawing amputee characters she was drawing women with masectomy scars she would have never been called out and her art would have been justified as ''venting''. So take your shitty twitter mentality off of here, twitter is already filled with frankenstein's, she just wasnt the ''morally approved'' one.

No. 1625868

>>1625566
if he's black why is his last name morales? lmao

No. 1625870

>>1625469
its not only art cows, all cows are boring as fuck thanks to cowtippers and twitterspergs

No. 1625872

>>1625868
My guess is that one of his parents was named Morales.

No. 1625875

>It is not normal to be a freak and the internet was not made for them.
one of the first 15000 webpages ever created was an autistic anti barney campaign that was pure unhinged unironic rage towards a purple dinosaur built by a guy that to this day wears a fedora. The internet was made by and for freaks, then normies got wifi on their iphones and started pretending it never was and that the internet is life 2.0. Seriously, go back. Oh wait, are you hear because you already had your daily dose of 800 tweets?

No. 1625876

>>1625868
This is probably racebait but whatever. Any person of any race can be any nationality but Mile's surname is Morales because one of his parents is latin.

No. 1625884

>>1625862
Don't act like you can go on twitter and call someone out for being trans. You know how that would go down. You're just strawmanning at this point because you probably like pedoshit too
>>1625868
He's afro-latino
>>1625875
All you guys know how to do is sperge about these supposed "twitterfags" because your brain can't fathom the fact that people have different opinions on art than you. You're not going to change anyone's mind.

No. 1625885

>>1625875
Exactly. I'm sick of these retards trying to sanitize everything that makes them feel the least bit uncomfy. The worst part is them insisting on pushing themselves in places they know they'll be uncomfy (because the spaces they create for themselves are boring and stagnant), then demanding things change to make them comfy again instead of just leaving.

No. 1625894

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>>1625566
Wow, if you showed this picture to me with no context, I honestly would not have been able to guess that it's supposed to be Miles Morales. I've never seen the movies, is that even his hairstyle at any point?
>it's also because of the way blue light reflects on dark skin
Imo if anything blue light makes people with dark skin look darker. And it doesn't look like he's fully in blue light either, just the highlights

No. 1625895

>>1625884
only a twitterfag would boldly claim ''the internet isnt for freaks'' without a shred of doubt on an imageboard that spawned from 4chan

No. 1625907

>>1625895
Vouch. Completely oblivious to the internet and trying to strongarm us into going along with it as per typical zoomer. They try so hard to rewrite the internet they weren't even here for.

No. 1625911

>>1625875
Nonna the internet was not made for autists to sperg about Barney or furries. It was created by computer scientists as a communications tool, first for military purposes, and then for research, before reaching a wider audience. The fact that a lot of weird people inhabited it from its early days does not mean it was literally made with them in mind, or that it was every meant to be exclusive to them. The computer scientists who made the internet did not think "we'll create a new form of communication that consists of a network between computers all over the world so autistic manchildren can spend all day sharing their thoughts on children's cartoons, and regular people will be forbidden from using it unless they prove they have edgy fetishes". No, it just so happens that some of the early internet users had very peculiar interests (such as being furfags which is what I consider being a freak, not just liking tabletop games or being into nerdy hobbies in general. When I say freak, I'm referring to people with fetishes) in addition to being computer geeks, but they're just one of the many kinds of people that used the internet back then. Businesses and educational institutions were also early internet adopters.
Maybe the reason you're so obsessed with nitpicking that completely irrelevant part of one post is because you think it's an attack on internet culture (a completely different thing from what was meant), which you then interpret as an attack against you, leading you to believe that whoever thinks the internet was not originally made for fetishists is a twitterfag because you cannot tell the difference between underground internet culture and the internet itself, or for simply thinking communities built around extreme fetishes, such as amputation, gore, or babyfur shit, are unhealthy and not normal. You saying "the internet is for freaks" is like saying "the internet is for porn", just because a lot of it exists on the internet doesn't mean it's only for that, or that the internet was even created for it in the first place. It's your own fault for misinterpreting that comment as a personal attack on your precious, edgy imageboard culture (of which I've been a part of for more than a decade so yeah, I know what I'm talking about). Just saying, your hate is misdirected and there was no need to derail so much just to sperg about the internet being srs bsns.

Again, I cannot stress enough that having this opinion does not mean I have a Twitter account that I use to start "cancellation crusades" against TIFs I merely think are kinda fucked up and draw amputee incest porn. homunculus100 is by definition a freak, but she's not a criminal so I'm not going to make a huge deal out of her. I also think other TIFs are freaks for glamourizing unnecessary mastectomies and mental illness, but they usually don't get off to it unlike this artist. When it comes to interesting fucked up artists such as the one being discussed, I only look at the screenshots and read the details in these threads and it also pisses me off that she has been scared off Twitter by a callout post because information on her true identity and the state of her leg are already hard to find as it is and I'm curious about whether she's actually an amputee or not. You happy now nonny?(autism)

No. 1625913

>>1625911
>had to redead the wikipedia article on the internet and write a manifesto because she got butthurt over being called a twitterfag
kek, the internet isnt for you, go touch grass and let the freaks and people that enjoy to birdwatch those freaks enjoy it

No. 1625914

>>1625523
NTA but you're on fucking lolcow, this site wouldn't exist if we didn't allow weirdos, autists and "freaks" to be themselves in peace. A thread dies when a lolcow is chased off the internet which is why cowtipping is prohibited. You clearly have no idea of this board's culture and type like a 16 year old theyby from Twitter using "freak" like it's a slur.

No. 1625915

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No. 1625918

>>1625913
You got so butthurt about the word "freak" being used that you couldn't stop seething about a post made hours ago and I came back just to set the record straight. But of course when I correct your retarded ass, you have no argument other than "ur a zoomer twitterfag snowflake and u cry when you see cartoon porn, stop censoring meeeee".
At this point I'm starting to think you're an /ic/ scrote. Who the fuck else on this site would defend amputation fetish porn to this extent? Just admit you see yourself as a freak and are sensitive to criticism of your edgy fetishes.(infighting)

No. 1625923

File: 1688622675678.jpeg (357.58 KB, 1125x2044, IMG_4046.jpeg)

>Makes Threads to replace Twitter
>Has no NSFW policy unlike Twitter
>Assumes that the overseas artist will read your rules
Zuckerberg…

No. 1625924

>>1625918
Nta but quit making scote accusations just because anons don't agree with you.

No. 1625925

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>>1625918
You are just grasping at straws. I could write you a whole paragraph about how the early internet was freaky as shit and give you more examples, but you will just go back to your wikipedia article to point out how it was created for military purposes and think you got a ''gotcha''. The internet has always been for nerds and freaks, which is why for so long it was considered dangerous, and the nerdy kid stereotype in the 90s and 2000s was of the kid with glasses that spent too much time on the computer. Then phonefags invaded it, and now you are the freak if you arent connected to the internet 24/7. The fact that you think I defend amputee porn when it was never the point speaks about your black-and-white Twitter mentality. Literally no one was defending that, we were complaining about twitterfags ruining our fun for the sake of moralfagging.

No. 1625926

>>1625923
that isnt nsfw

No. 1625927


No. 1625928

>>1625926
>>1625923
It's ecchi. I'm not sure if everyone sees it as NSFW.

No. 1625934

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>>1625926
>You can get the uncensored version on my Patreon which is right here in the replies :)
It’s only a matter of time before they get comfortable here…

No. 1625940

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>>1625934
>It’s only a matter of time before they get comfortable here…
it just launched and its supposed to be a twitter alternative aka it will attract twitterfags, why are you talking as if they invaded your 20 year old niche forum

No. 1625945

>>1625918
Holy shit girl shut up, no one cares. Stop sperging like a retarded 14 xey/xir with no reading comprehension and shitting up the thread with infighting. We're discussing how some faggot cowtipped, no one is defending the porn.

No. 1625981

I hate that being an artist means you have to put yourself out there. I’m scared of haters but also scared of fans. I don’t want any kids making callout posts on me or creeps becoming parasocially obsessed with me. I don’t even have 1k followers and I still get nervous and antsy. I’ve only had like 1 mean-ish comment and one replyguy who is giving me the squik.

No. 1625985

>>1624320
>>1624327
She has a point because they actually let moids in the server. Still give them a try, nona.

No. 1625987

>>1625981
Just don't overshare. If you don't give them ammunition (i.e. personal information) what are they going to do?

No. 1625995

>>1625981
I do feel that way but about DMs. I don't care about people being odd in replies, but my account has grown quickly and I'm getting DMs from total strangers asking if I have a Discord server and stuff like that and I don't know how to handle it.

No. 1626001

>>1625918
Don't worry Nonna, there's like 3 anons who keep arguing with everyone, but I agree with you.

No. 1626007

>>1625566
that’s not how lighting works on dark skin, nonnie.

No. 1626022

>>1626007

I said he was drawn lighter in my post and that the artist took the criticism and improved. Also it's not pure blue lighting in a dark space, it's there white light coming from underneath. But yeah, he still looks light

No. 1626030

>>1625985
>>1624283
I'm in the discord currently. It's very comfy, iirc there was only 3 moids and they got removed for being inactive recently. If you want to join you have to post art in the thread and maybe wait for the link to get posted again. No one completely new is let in to keep schizos out. Or even if you don't join in the end I still look forward to seeing lolcow nonas art in the threads.

No. 1626068

>>1625995
I'd suggest you close them as soon as possible, weirdos shouldn't have the ability to message you and you shouldn't engage with any of them. If you want to give your followers an option to talk to you or ask general questions, you can make an askbox through another website and link to it on social media.

No. 1626083

>>1625981
Preemptive block at any sign of degenerate interacting with your arts. Do some research on importing/exporting blocklist depends on which art social media you use. If they don't know you exist they can't come for you.

No. 1626089

>>1625894
A lot of young artists take existing character and make them their own, so far removed they should just drop the label fanart. Yes he doesn’t look black at all but the example isn’t racist but lacking an understanding of skintone and color theory. The real crime is taking an existing character and mutating it beyond recognition. Original work can’t succeed I suppose.

No. 1626093

>>1625923
>>1625934
This is FB? It looks like Twitter. I haven’t used Twitter or FB in years.

No. 1626109

File: 1688645782790.png (210.42 KB, 640x481, Clark Bruce.png)

>>1625894
>>1625566
I remember reading somewhere that both darker skin tones and hair with different color and or textures are more time-consuming to draw. That's why protagonists in anime and manga tend to be light-skinned men with straight black hair for a century now. This character "model" can also be presumed or localized as being Japanese, Arab, German, etc., without much issue

No. 1626124

>>1626093
I think it's META's new platform, Threads. It's a Twitter clone.

No. 1626129

File: 1688649142691.jpeg (1.71 MB, 1170x2532, IMG_4556.jpeg)

Idk if anyone is familiar with holyempresse but christ she annoys the everliving shit out of me. She hardly posts art anymore and instead uses her platform to on giant rants about Lore Olympus, Rachel Smythe, and whatever else pisses her off that day and gives her the urge to soapbox. She’s been steadily losing followers over it and even goes on rants over that when people bring up the fact that LO is all she ever posts about. It’s one thing to not like a webtoon but does it really require a 24 slide think piece in your story every other fucking day? It’s really unfortunate because I actually enjoy her art style but not enough to deal with the constant bitching.

No. 1626167

>>1626129
I don’t know this artist but her feed looks similar to LO I thought it was fanart lol maybe that’s why she’s mad. Is she also writing a comic?

No. 1626229

>>1626167
Not that I’m aware of but she did go through a “I can draw this comic better and give it a more interesting story than RS” fit. The concept art actually looks neat but the venom behind it makes it lose its charm.

No. 1626258

>>1624911
If she lost her leg for legitimate reasons, she probably would have shared the story by now. I'm thinking that she intentionally neglected the part of her leg used to make the arm sausage so they'd amputate it, but even then, it's a stretch. I've never heard of someone losing a leg because of phalloplasty complications, though I imagine it's possible.

No. 1626262

>>1625323
NTA but people deserve to be bullied when they mutilate themselves for a fetish. The only retarded thing is that "call out posts" create a false moral pretext for it when it's obvious we all just want to ridicule someone for being deranged.

No. 1626263

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No. 1626270

>>1625082
I get why other nonas are judging, but if you HAVE to do something to get them off your back then do what >>1625094 said and draw a girl and call it a boy. You can later delete the description kek

No. 1626291

>>1626258
For all the issues rotdogs give a TIF why doesn’t she write about that complication? Maybe it already fell off and she’s just happy to lose part of her arm and leg in the process. Idgi but she’s like Kelly the amputee.

No. 1626293

Should I close my Twitter account a make one on Threads or is not even worth it?

No. 1626296

>>1626293
Not worth it. Why jump to another platform that's just gonna fill the pockets of another billionaires'.

No. 1626327

>>1626129
I really hate artists who don't make art-only accounts and force their followers to read shit no one cares about

No. 1626328

>>1625566
>>1625591
I agree wholeheartedly. Yes, some eastern asians don't know how to draw darker skinned people. But it's fucking obvious that the character in this art is supposed to be black, and it's just a lighting fuck-up that makes him look lighter. And this is the case in 99% of the 'white-washed' art that twitter witch hunts the artist for; just the artist needing a bit more practice. It's so fucking severe, people point out the smallest of mistakes obnoxiously literally just to virtue signal. You can tell. I've seen so many bitchings in comment sections of perfectly fine arts of Miles and especially Miguel, because they're a shade too light or some shit. If you look in the qrts of accused arts, half of them aren't even valid constructive criticism, just reeee-ing about 'whitewashing' 'shouldn't let asians draw black people' 'it's always the asian artists' etc, that literally progress into just race wars lmao. Which is ironic, because it's the same people who are massive SJWs and all about equality and anti-racism and allat. After receiving criticism, many eastern artists who don't understand english well will obviously be intimidated and scared of the massive backlash they received on western twitter, and revert to drawing the same porcelain white characters like they're used to, in fear of criticism, and this gets mocked by western twitter or used as proof as they're racist. And honestly, if I was trying to be more inclusive with my art but got nothing but shit, I wouldn't want to try again either lmao. It's so insanely difficult to please a western audience.

No. 1626350

>>1626328
>it's fucking obvious that the character in this art is supposed to be black,
How? I don't think anyone would have guessed that that's supposed to be a black character. Like at all.

No. 1626353

>>1626089
I'm not calling the artist racist, if that's what you're implying anon.

No. 1626362

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>>1626350
i put it in greyscale in comparison to another drawing of white characters and the constrast is obvious.

No. 1626371

>>1626362
The majority of people don't see in grayscale, cause y'know, we're not bats. This doesn't really show anything because that could easily just be shading or atmosphere, and darker than literal #FFFFFF white doesn't mean black. I don't think the artist had any bad intent but we don't have to pretend that the character is obviously super duper black.

No. 1626376

>>1626371
i could tell he was black, he doesnt need to be a racist looney toons cartoon for me to tell. Some of you are so annoying. No wonder they always bully the good artists, meanwhile the ones who throw away color theory in favour of being 100% accurate always draw hideous art where you cant even tell appart the face features anymore.

No. 1626377

>>1626109
I don't know if what you're saying is 100% accurate, but as someone who reads a lot of capeshit and manga, I can honestly say that it's somewhat true. Many heroes are depicted as muscular, white or Japanese guys with short, black hair

No. 1626441

Has anyone successfully managed to change your art style to be completely unrecognizable then it was before? I never went to art school, but a TiF friend of mine did, and I orbited the scene. Our art ended up looking pretty similar. I'll admit, I always thought of her as a better artist than I. In highschool, she was great at realism, she still probably is but doesn't seem to apply herself to it and instead just draws the same stylized stuff that I don't want my art to fall into. I'm trying better to retrain in my fundamentals, not really worried about producing finished work, just practicing and getting better, but I still feel like I can't escape my art style. I'm not friends with any of these people anymore, but I do still check up on their art once in a blue moon. I really wanna move away from what I can only describe as fandom/terminally online art and focus more on my surrealist type paintings. I do like stylized work, but I want it to be more used for doing band gigs and other jobs like that rather than being stuck in webcomic/oc hell. I don't post art online anymore, but I'm always secretly afraid my art will end up in the bad art threads.

No. 1626442

>>1626362
Your other example doesn’t help. It looks like more asian pretty boys like another anon said.
>>1626353
I didn’t think you were but like in the previous posts this example doesn’t read as black. This artist is used to illustrating korean men it looks like and that isn’t translating to fan art, he just looks like another korean character at first glance.
>>1626377
Interesting if true. Might also explain asian Miles here lol

No. 1626444

>>1626441
I don’t have a style but I’ve been improving my fundamentals so it looks better overall. I wouldn’t worry about your art being in a bad art thread nonny. It’s better to continue what you’re doing and get away from fanart. Occasionally it’s fun but if that’s the whole portfolio you’re going to suffer.

No. 1626447

>>1625911
One of homie's FMA friends has been trying to dispel the cancer myth on twitter, and says she pretty much got her leg infected and amputated so she could be like Edward Elric. She used a bag of dry ice and tools from Home Depot to give her leg gangrene. Doctors tried to fix what they could, but eventually had to amputate and give her the metal leg.

No. 1626451

>>1626447
>She used a bag of dry ice and tools from Home Depot to give her leg gangrene.
No joke, my stomach turned reading this. Kelly and Chompers vibes.

No. 1626459

Question. What are some services I could use to make badges for a convention? I plan to go to one one day in future, and I want to sell fanbooks and mini-prints but I also feel like I should put out something more simple and "easy to approach" what would be some decent services you would know of anons?

No. 1626462

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>>1626447
There was a furry on Twitter who did the same thing. He wanted paws, so he "fell asleep" with his hands in a dry ice bucket "for arthritis".

No. 1626464

>>1626462
Horrifying. People who do this intentionally shouldn't get any form of disability benefits.

No. 1626466

>>1626462
Oh my god why must you remind me

No. 1626514

>>1626462
What the absolute fucking hell is this? I had no idea about this. What has to be in your mind to do this to yourself

No. 1626542

>>1626089
>>1625894
That character is miles from an alternate universe. He appears in the last 5 minutes of the movie. But he has the same skintone as miles

No. 1626543

>>1625787
I have a photo with the arm patch, but is there any proof the leg patch was used to cover the arm? This is all crazy. I saw people ok twotter connect homie to stinky and now I'm trying to see how deep that connection goes. But I'm all for archiving every bit of info possible.

No. 1626546

can you all shut up about spiderman I wanna hear about this legless motherfucker

No. 1626558

>>1626462
Did he get his paws?

No. 1626559

>>1626543
I wish I'd thought of SSing the convos back then but it detailed just all the steps Homie took to get phallo as some kind of how-to and reveling in the gory surgical details. Stinky was a BFF until she got called out for the zoo and Homie distanced at least publicly, who knows if the two secretly kept in contact or not. A lot of the Matsu freak types tried to act like they never knew how bad Stinky was, even if they frequently talked and enabled her depravity and passed around links of vids she'd send them.

No. 1626561

>>1626559
I don’t know these other people or what Matsu is. Can I get a qrd? Homie chick is a crazy popcorn read.
>>1626546
She still has one leg anon. You can call her gimpy or peg leg.

No. 1626573

>>1626561
Matsu refers to the fandom for Osomatsu San, an anime about 6 brothers who people love to draw fucking.

Homie/homunculus100_ is someone who used to be into that fandom who is recently getting attention for almost assuredly self amputating, evidently self harmed enough to warrant amputation but hard to say for sure. They were friends with someone called Stinky/Todokaras in 2016ish who fucked their dog. Homie evidently cut public ties, but the dog video surfaced months before this. Homie was interacting with Stinky for nearly a year after the dogfucking was revealed. No clue on their relationship now. Homie is presently MIA.

There was a rumor Homie had cancer and that's how the leg was lost, this was disproven. According to someone who knows him on twitter, the cancer rumor came from a telegram someone found that had some guy in Spain talking about losing his leg as a child to cancer. Homie is from California and had 2 legs up until 2020ish.

The Homie/Stinky connection apparently implies they may have tried breeding at Anime Expo. There are photos of Homie there.

Would love if anyone else has any additional information, pics, sauce, etc.

No. 1626579

>>1624283
>cbsg
Guess there’s no hope in finding an art server for me then. If it wasn’t centered around cute boys/men maybe I would have given it a shot.

No. 1626608

>>1626573
B-breeding what anon? Gross. Thanks for the qrd. I had seen images of Homie and her art/fetish ships from FMA. Didn’t know about the other stuff but her art always felt off.

No. 1626612

>>1625185
What the fuck are you talking about

No. 1626620

>>1626447
I've been hearing someone IRL got in contact with someone who knows homie and that it was lost to disability.

No. 1626623

>>1626608
Breeding each other. They fucked.

>>1626620
Said disability is BIID. Theyre referring to BIID as a mental health disability.

No. 1626628

>>1625828
Sorry for the late reply nonna it got buried in the infighting lol.

I ended up joining a local group of artist and hobbyists… You might be able to search for servers or on meetup? I would also recommend crafting groups as I've found many of the women in those to be pretty normal. Also once you find a couple like minded people usually they will also recommend groups to you so maybe start there? Good luck! (Older groups are also better, the group I'm in has a majority of people in their 30s)

No. 1626632

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>>1626558
Some guy made him robo-paws but I'm not aware of any pictures of the guy wearing and using them. He has also posted some pictures of little hooks that he puts on his stumps that he put his fursuit gloves on.

Source for pic:
https://twitter.com/CALVINGINEERING/status/1229571630885531648
https://twitter.com/CALVINGINEERING/status/1232184424743129090

No. 1626655

>>1626632
Why couldn't he just put on paw gloves… This makes no sense

No. 1626662

>>1626447
For ffs if you all don't start posting screenshots of these claims

No. 1626665

>>1625752
Why can't they use leg skin? Why do they have to jigsaw swap? Do I even want to know? Also post caps or gtfo

No. 1626669

>>1625911
I cannot believe you're continuing to type all of this. You don't even warrant a response, nothing you're saying means anything to literally anyone except you at this point. The internet is for everything and always has been. What are you even trying to say? What is your point? Hur dur internet people bad is for amazon and facebook hur dur. You don't get to censor everyone just because they make you ~uncomfy~ retard.(stop responding)

No. 1626670

File: 1688692327113.png (4.74 MB, 4796x2716, 1672085479684.png)

>>1626665
>>1626662
NYART, and don't have screenshots for homunculus claims, but for Todokaras, there's an entire thread for it already.
>>280059
They're suspected to have come back as a new user on twitter who's your typical proshipper shotacon coomer(picrel). You can also find one of the many callouts on Tumblr if you bothered to search their name up. Don't know about the connection to Homunculus claims, but wouldn't be surprised considering they're in the same fandoms and into the same things.

No. 1626672

>>1626670
Samefag, linked the wrong thread, but you can find it if you type in Todokaras on google.
>>1626669
Could you get a grip and realize you're responding to an almost day old post that people have already moved on from

No. 1626673

>>1626669
20 hours old, just stop anon.

No. 1626677

>>1626546
She probably just deserves her own thread at this point even though I don’t think her Twitter account is back.

No. 1626678

>>1626623
If they have BIID it sucks people are downplaying it just to fetish art.

Cow or not I wouldn't want to live with that condition and try to figure out how to cope with it in a way that won't get twitter spergs on your ass for "fetishizing".

Regardless, all this shit with homie is why you should not "tip the cow" or "touch the cow".

No. 1626679

>>1626673
I didnt read the timestamp but true, I'm done. It was just retarded.

>>1626670
What happened to the caps? Not sure if you're the one making the posts, but there's several descriptions of things itt now with no photographic evidence at all, is it just retelling of a nuked thread or something….? I've seen 2 photos of this person total, half or most of this could be bullshit. The only thing corroborating so far is the art, be cool if someone could back up what's said cause most of us have no idea who these people are lol

No. 1626713

I hate that this is how I found out Homie actually cut her leg off. Lmaoo oh my god

She got way luckier than most do in regards to twitter callouts, the general consensus seems to have flipped in her favor. It's going to be really funny within the next year when Twitter finds out she really did cut off her leg for fetish reasons and they'll turn on her again. Same as what happened with Destinymoon

No. 1626722

>>1626670
Hey I follow this person and I don't think this is true. Do you have any other evidence to corroborate?

No. 1626725

>>1626713
You haven't shared a single screenshot.

No. 1626731

>>1626677
Evidently if you DM their FMA pals you can get caps or info, FMA was one of Homies most recent fandoms so anyone from there may or may not know about the Todokara connection. But they seem to have known Homie for a few years and even had irl connections. Evidently enough so that DMing with them caused multiple people to delete their cancer claim posts. I don't have an active Twitter that won't look like a sockpuppe, so it won't be me.

>>1626662
Actually a full thread to compile all evidence would be great, especially if you can get anything out of their friends.

No. 1626733

>>1626731
This is being said but no caps are being shared. Every single bit of this can be bullshit and all of you are making it look like total bullshit by not sharing a single screenshot anywhere.

No. 1626734

>>1626573
>>1626623
Why didn't you just say "had sex," you degenerate?

No. 1626735

>>1626733
Can't you read? I said I can't DM them because my account is empty. Why don't you do it if you're so hungry for it? I don't see you putting the effort in.

No. 1626738

>>1626734
probably because they're filthy animals. sex is for people, duh

No. 1626739

>>1626628
ooo thank you!! admittedly, i've really only been looking in online nerd circles lol. i'm pretty confident i can find something though, even if a lot of people around where i live seem super looney

No. 1626742

>>1626713
Of course retards on Twitter defended her. They already endorse people sawing off their healthy breasts and genitals, why would they feel any different about legs? This might be one of those cases where slippery slope actually applies. There are even a handful of dipshits here defending her for some reason, on the basis that she's just "being weird." Y'know, like how making lampshades out of skinned corpses is also just "being weird."

No. 1626751

>>1626670
Regarding the connection of Homie and Todokaras, look up "kellmatsu" on twitter. You will see Todokaras interacting with Kellmatsu and someone called Beetle_Smasher with a timestamp of 2016. Kellmatsu is Homie, that was their name during their time in Osomatsu. You could even just look up "todokaras" on twitter and go to recent.

No. 1626753

>>1626742
>t. zoomer twitterfag who'd bully Ed Gein and ruin our milk

No. 1626755

>>1626751
You are supposed to screenshot these things, not instruct other people to look at them. This is an imageboard.

No. 1626756

>>1626753
NTA, you are so pathetic it hurts.

No. 1626758

>>1626742
I'd defend it and I don't have a Twitter. I dont give a fuck that they have BIID and I find their creepy shota porn absolutely repugnant and pathetic but I still want to horrorwatch. Fuck you people who pearl clutch and scare off the few specimens that do Soren-tier Hellraiseresque body horror.

No. 1626760

>>1626751
You need to screenshot and archive, please.
>>1626679
I was not the anon.
>>1626722
I can't spoonfeed you everything about the drama, look them up.
>>1626722
I just shared a post from the last thread, do your own research. Also admitting to following and engaging in content made by a shotacon coomer furry who can't draw is funny.

No. 1626762

>>1626293
I'm looking to see how it shakes out. Twitter seems shaky at the moment but hasn't fallen yet. I feel like the general impression of Threads is that it's for normies and so far all the non-professional hobbyist illustrators I've seen with 100k to even 200k Twitter followers barely reach past even 1000 followers on Threads/Instagram, unless they've had an existing Instagram presence for years, so it's not like their followers are immediately flocking to it.

I really don't want to touch a Zuckerburg product but if it's where all the content creators go then I probably have no choice.

No. 1626766

>>1626760
It isnt 'asking to be spoonfed' when there are tons of claims being made over text and virtually no photographic or archiving shared. There is no place most anons can look because they dont know or have followed these people, it would make more sense for people actually claiming to know what happened to share SS instead of saying 'oh so and so tweeted about it' 'so and so can dm so and so about it'. I could literally make a post saying I saw them tweet about sitting in a bath of dry ice and then sending videos to fma fandom stabbing themselves with a drill from home depot in the middle of a chalk circle.

No. 1626767

>>1626766
I agree the anon who's making those bold claims need to provide screenshots, but you really can just look up Todokaras and find all this info. That's what I did. There's threads and callouts. Google.

No. 1626769

>>1626767
Yet that has fuckall to do with the account we are actually talking about without any proof.

No. 1626770

>>1626769
Anon are you retarded. I posted about Todokaras and a theory someone had that they were creeping_crow on Twitter. Read.

No. 1626771

>>1626770
Holy fuck, you're the one who can't read. None of us give a shit about this person being stealth on another Tumblr, the only reason anyone cared was because people claimed they were besties and yet came forth with nothing showing such.

No. 1626772

File: 1688698814365.jpg (30.51 KB, 591x579, Tumblr_l_191893455759297-1.jpg)

here you go, homie and todokaras planning to fuck, in September 2016. the screens in the todokaras thread showing her molesting the dog are July 2016. homie planning to fuck todokaras well into knowing about the dog shit.

No. 1626773

File: 1688698857801.png (4.35 KB, 920x83, for retardfag.png)

>>1626771
Let's read together anon. If you're looking for info on Homunculus, I don't have it. I only said I saw info about Todokaras.

No. 1626774

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>>1626733
The art has been shared in this thread and previous but I guess nobody lurks anymore. This is what I could find since the account is deleted.
>Artist has both legs documented for many years
>Artist draws several extremely personal pieces of artwork of their own sona cutting their leg off or having their leg removed, artist has extensive knowledge on how to diy chop off your leg, artist has drawn multiple amputee porn fanarts of Osomatsu characters
>Artist suddenly loses leg
>"But we have no idea what happened you guys are just being meanies"
I can admit the proof being artwork is flimsy but like, come on. Bitch was screaming through her artwork she wants to cut her leg off and now her leg is gone. Might seem farfetched if this is your first encounter with Homie but she is fucking nuts. Ffs she's buttbuddies with Todokaras, a dogfucker who gets off on going weeks without showering and gets excited when she accrues physical grime.

No. 1626775

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No. 1626777

File: 1688699122646.jpeg (Spoiler Image,52.93 KB, 828x815, CA1EB76F-C424-466D-989A-29EAC7…)

>>1626775
I don't even care about the proship stuff nor do I usually go the "art influences real life" route but it's really funny thinking about the uncanny coincidence that the one guy who really wishes she could cut her leg off magically had an accident where she needs her leg cut off. Lol.

No. 1626783

>>1626777
homie has been posting wishing for this leg to come off for years this art dates back to like 2016 and they expect me to believe homie coincidentally got cancer in the exact leg last year and immediately got it amputated without chemo or anything………. sure

No. 1626784

>>1626772
I know I wasn't hallucinating that shit, even more cursed than memory.

No. 1626785

>>1626772
What does "circumcised" mean in the context of man made horror phallo?

No. 1626786

>>1625522
There isn't one because nobody did. There were like 15 different posts that popped up (that I saw) when homie went viral with that prosthetic post because people went 'wtf'

No. 1626787

>>1626786
They used information and face posts that blatantly came from these threads, so yes, they did.

No. 1626789

>>1626783
Plus the very specific tweets about buying things to turn the leg into soup, and Homz friend corroborating that they contracted gangrene.

No. 1626793

>>1626789
cap for this? I've heard there are caps from homies priv and pals corroborating but I haven't seen anything about gangrene specifically. share with the class

No. 1626802

>>1626772
This doesn't actually imply real sex. Looks like two weird autists making weird autist jokes.

No. 1626805

>>1626774
We've seen the art, the art means nothing without real corroboration in text. The art itself could plausibly imply a morbid sense of humor on its own. People want caps of all these so called discussions on twitter an anon keeps talking about without sharing them. 'Oh someone is defending them''someone says it was cancer''someone deleted their tweet defending them' like okay? I can say someone just posted a pic of them fucking themselves with the remains of their leg bone but deleted it and a newfag would be like wow really

No. 1626807

>>1626802
sex or not, this confirms the connection and that were friends well into todokaras fucking dogs. the actual content is hardly relevant here.

No. 1626808

>>1626775
You can't tell me the anon who talked about the dry ice from home depot was alluding to this crude ipad drawing as if it's evidence of self-amputation because if so… some of you are really fucking dumb.

No. 1626810

>>1626785
Nothing, they also claimed to have used a urinal in high-school pre-phallo. Just fibbing.

No. 1626820

File: 1688701943323.jpg (183.07 KB, 845x773, Screenshot_20230706_235341_Gal…)

some have said on their private Twitter there was actual photos and details. can't confirm or deny, so take this as you will.

No. 1626822

>>1626820
If there was, it was deleted ages ago. I'm skeptical. None of that was there a month or so ago.

No. 1626826

>>1626822
Do you have access to his private Twitter or something?

No. 1626827

File: 1688702370489.png (449.61 KB, 600x600, fetchimage(1).png)

i dont understand why we're using drawings as proof she sawed off her leg (or paid someone shady to do it). no one knows how it happened, theres no tangible proof of anything so id lay off making random claims

No. 1626830

>>1626827
You're right, almost a decade of detailing exactly how she would do it in text posts artistic renditions leading up to finally doing it to explain the very sudden loss and celebration in the last year makes way less sense than the kismetic energy it took for her to develop a sudden disfiguration in the exact leg she'd been wanting off for years that definitely made the entire limb unsalvageable. I hope she plays the lottery too with that luck.

No. 1626831

>>1626827
we’re not. but them in conjunction with losing a limb in adulthood is weird

No. 1626832

>>1626827
You're right, almost a decade of detailing exactly how she would do it in text posts artistic renditions leading up to finally doing it to explain the very sudden loss and celebration in the last year makes way less sense than the kismetic energy it took for her to develop a sudden disfiguration in the exact leg she'd been wanting off for years that definitely made the entire limb unsalvageable. I hope she plays the lottery too with that luck.

No. 1626833

>>1626777
>>1626775
I hate to intrude on this conversation, but I genuinely don't understand how people can see this art and think like this >>1626805
It's basically them drawing themselves committing the act, it's insane.
>>1626827
>be homunculus100_
>masturbate to shotacon amputees
>draw yourself daydreaming about cutting your leg off
>vent about no one supporting you wanting to cut your leg off
>draw yourself thanking your doctor in an empty hospital room for cutting off your leg
>get called out on twitter
>people defend you saying you "got cancer"
This doesn't make sense to me. Why are people defending this tif again?

No. 1626834

>>1626827
You're right, almost a decade of detailing exactly how she would do it in text posts artistic renditions leading up to finally doing it to explain the very sudden loss and celebration in the last year makes way less sense than the kismetic energy it took for her to develop a sudden disfiguration in the exact leg she'd been wanting off for years that definitely made the entire limb unsalvageable. I hope she plays the lottery too with that luck.

No. 1626837

>>1626830
But none of the discussion means anything at all without the documentation.

No. 1626838

File: 1688703152342.jpg (117.33 KB, 828x833, 20230705_183548.jpg)

Ignore my retarded internet. That posted a billion times. Have this as a peace offering.

No. 1626839

>>1626826
There was a second Twitter but it wasn't private. As far as the private Twitter goes, nobody posts anything, has alluded to an @, nothing. You could make up literally anything about this person and it would be believable because of the weird psychotic art

No. 1626840

You guys would defend shadman so long as he touched no kids in real life(bait)

No. 1626843

>>1626840
Shadman drew actual kids, he was way worse than some tif getting rid of her leg

No. 1626844

>>1626843
If you choose to defend either then you're stupid

No. 1626846

>>1626844
Who's defending? homunculus is freakish. One is just infinitely worse. Are you really too retarded to understand that someone being mentally ill on the internet isn't the same as being an actual evil piece of shit?

No. 1626847

>>1626834
i mean… can anyone else come up with a more believable reason as to how this would be possible? especially given she's a troon and has disfigured her body already. like is this really so unbelievable. the amount of mental illness required to be as into this shit in the first place leads me to believe that maybe she did have BIID and was surrounded by people who encouraged her to do whatever made her happiest with her body.

No. 1626848

>>1626846
If the boot doesn't fit, then don't wear it. Both are retarded on different levels. People here just want to make galactic level reaches to theorize why this person who is constantly drawing themselves be amputated acksually never cut their own leg off

No. 1626850

>>1626848
>If the boot doesn't fit, then don't wear it.
I'm not. I'm saying it's stupid as fuck to compare the two, and it is. Shadman is more than just "retarded", and putting him at her level is essentially defending him. I also never said she didn't cut her own leg off, there are multiple people in this thread.

No. 1626851

>>1626849
Saying "people here" does not mean I'm only talking about you, retard.

No. 1626852

>>1626851
>d-didn't mean you
Give up already

No. 1626853

>>1626852
Not my fault you can't read kek

No. 1626854

>>1626853
>make retarded posts
>try to derail even further
Twitter brainrot needs to go.

No. 1626855

>>1626670
Is todokaras still lurking anywhere online? What a cow.

No. 1626860

>>1626854
Oh, to be an anon who can only say "twitterfag" when they run out of things to say
>>1626855
Honestly I would say you could make a Todokaras and Homunculus00 thread, but I'm not sure how milky they even are. They just post your regular pedoshit without much actual drama. It'd be fun to point and laugh at though.

No. 1626864

A tif cut off her own leg for attention on Twitter
LAUGH

>>1626855
More than likely yes but she's been caught hiding her identity a few times in the past so she's probably learned to tighten security by now.

No. 1626871

I cant wait for homie to come back and announce the leg was a DIY job because watching all of the people who said that couldn't POSSIBLY be true have to eat their words will be hilarious

No. 1626872

There’s a post on KF about her. Thought this would be interesting for you all. Her deadname and a few pre-op pics. She was quite pretty. I wonder what broke her.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130722095628/http:/sol--lux.tumblr.com/about

No. 1626881

>>1626871
You are inserting words into people's mouths. Nobody is saying it didn't happen. We are saying you retards are spinning tales from the art posts instead of posting actual evidence and nothing else so whatever you're saying has no meaning.

No. 1626884

>>1626860
Why are you obsessed with baiting? It won't help you integrate lol

No. 1626885

>>1626872
This was posted upthread

No. 1626890

>>1626872
Someone said the KF link was posted earlier in the thread but I don't see it. Do you have the link? She had so many online handles that I can't find which one it would be under.

No. 1626891

>>1626890
I googled it and found it by looking up "sol–lux Tumblr kf" but kf is down so no luck. I was trying to see if they were actually connected accounts but it's hard to say without the thread available

No. 1626897

>>1626891
>>1626872
This is originally from here. A farmer posted all this.

No. 1626907

>>1626891
>>1626897
Even with that, I couldn't find any evidence of a KF post, even archived. What does the kiwifarms say as far as dead name goes? Hoping I can pull it up that way

No. 1626908

>>1626891
FYI, KF is currently using sneed.today as its URL which is probably why you are having trouble finding it. In any case, all the information is in this thread and the last one.

No. 1626915

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>>1626833
>>1626832
guys i wasnt defending her please get off my back, im just saying it doesnt seem very likely to me that she did a DIY job (which would probably have ended up killing her) or found some mad scientist that was willing to amputate her perfectly healthy leg. like please think about it for a moment and realize these 2 things would probably be impossible. however i dont think she magically got cancer or was the victim of an unfortunate freak accident, she probably self-mutilated to the point that doctors had to amputate her leg. thats just my crackpot theory though

also i keep seeing people say that she's made art/posts on her old accounts about wanting her leg gone. can someone post them? im curious.

No. 1626918

>>1626908
if the dead name was in the thread(s) it seems to be gone now, I went back and scrubbed but found nothing… probably worth it to namedrop again for posterity

No. 1626920

File: 1688709813102.png (1.57 MB, 1500x4500, 1684036171287.png)

>>1626915
this is probably true and I think what many people are assuming is the reality. in old pictures she had a massive phalloplasty scar on her arm, and it's mysteriously gone now. If she had them take a chunk of her leg to hide the arm scar to be less obviously trans, it's very likely she let the wound go septic and develop gangrene (as stated), in which case convincing a surgeon to remove it would be incredibly easy and justifiable.

also, here is a collection. this is not all of them, many dated back as early as 2019, but of course those are lost to the deactivation.

No. 1626922

>>1626915
Before the alt was taken down from their bio, I scrolled through the whole thing and quickly deduced that they were transgender and like mega autistic. It would make since for the art to be a direct interpretation of BIID fantasies that they experienced, because every other post they make in earnest is overtly detailed, autistic, and super eager about obsessive interests. That said, I see no real timeline showing when the leg was lost. There was one low rest cropped photo here >>1624954 that is attached to no account and has no timestamp. My theory is that yeah, it's BIID and after phallo, they purposely gave themselves an infection so that the leg would have to be amputated. But even with that, its incredibly hard to make the leg unsalvageable to the point it needs an amputation. They would have to go to incredibly great lengths. Kelly comes to mind, whenever I think of how she literally picked her legs all the way through to the bone and smeared them with shit and that was the only way they would amputate them.

No. 1626925

>>1626922
>But even with that, its incredibly hard to make the leg unsalvageable to the point it needs an amputation. They would have to go to incredibly great lengths.
honestly, who knows? you're probably right, all of these theories just dont seem very likely to me anymore. maybe itll turn out that fullbody pic she posted was photoshopped and the entire amputee thing was just a larp kekk. (this whole situation reminded me of kelly as well)

No. 1626926

>>1626920
I'm going to be honest, I don't really care about BIID thing so much as a sort of neutral fascination. The shota was genuinely vile but it's generally weird autopedophilia developed after CSA for afabs and they definitely check several boxes for that to fit into the puzzle. I think for me the blatant lack of shame or discretion is the most fascinating, you'd definitely have to be mega, like alpha-autistic5000 to post all of this for all to see and then get your entire leg removed for sympathy. That's an unprocessable level of crazy to me. It's such a bizarre thing to even realize you've thought about, but reading about people with BIID made me realize leg-amputees are chads and hand-amputees are betas. Removing a leg to go on to be jacked and masculine and to want to look cool is so fucking funny.

No. 1626928

>>1626924
My initial thought was that it was a photoshop but it didn't appear to be when I inspected it in full-res. I consider them to be extremely weird but in a mentally deficient way, like theyre obviously not all there if they basically pass neck-down and STILL talk and behave like a teenage fandom girl and have the same obsessions and interests. Its just turbo-autism and an inability to see how they appear to be a serial killer to everyone else. It makes me wonder how their gf feels and if they really supported this kind of behavior, but I imagine the autism Fandom bubble was really enabling and probably where they met anyways.

No. 1626932

>>1626928
guess the only way we'll get an answer is if ms. homie herself decides to come out and explain everything but i doubt that'll ever happen

No. 1626937

>>1626884
I dont think you know what bait is
>>1626925
The full-body pic looks too good to be photoshopped imo but if you see some evidence of image alteration do share
>>1626932
What do you think will happen when she comes back? In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if she just abandons her account after this

No. 1626948

>>1626579
I feel you. Last I checked they have dedicated channels for hetero/female posting not that it changes much.
>>1626030
I really want to make lc art friends since I'm outgrowing my TRA circles but I worry I won't fit in, kek.

No. 1626961

re: homunculus, has anybody posted the drawing they made of the all-limbs-amputated person blind in one eye living in a basement with a collar chained to a cage yet? there are blankets, pillows, and children's toys on the floor they're on, but more worryingly there are several sex toys (obvious and blatant dildos and buttplugs) on a shelf behind them and there's a panel mounted to the wall with tools like hacksaws, ropes/whips, hammers and other things that indicate torture hung on it. i regrettably saw the image a couple days ago and to me, this was the most damning evidence of the amputation being a sexual fetish, and it's certainly not unheard of, i knew someone who did super fucked up furry fetish porn commissions for the cash and one of the arts was what the commissioner called a "nugget", someone with all limbs amputated.

No. 1627027

File: 1688727972556.jpg (Spoiler Image,55.78 KB, 640x640, 43 - y3ezmEU.jpg)

Spoilered for nasty leg scabs, but nonnies, haven't you all heard of Kelly ronahan? If not, she's a munchie who picked at her legs so much she went septic and eventually had to have them amputated. It's not outside the realm of possibility that homie did something to herself to make amputation necessary, whether it be via an injury or causing a severe infection. She definitely didn't cut her own leg off, she probably would've died, but self-injury is more likely than by coincidence getting cancer in the same leg she was always drawing herself chopping off.

No. 1627039

>>1626907
The deadname was posted in the archive link which is why I posted it here. If you’re unable to view it I could take a screenshot for later. The title says:”hi there i’m kjersten welcome 2 my blog (◕‿◕✿)” Most likely why she went by Kellen for a while. I can see the site through TOR and she was in the Proshipping thread. Idgi but her info was dumped there recently.

No. 1627044

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No. 1627045

File: 1688730646033.jpeg (950.08 KB, 1170x2055, IMG_8297.jpeg)

>>1627044
Before and after. Homestuck claims another.

No. 1627059

>>1626462
it has been disproved, the dude had a real accident, the ''wanting paws'' shit is not real, and that's why it never appears on any caps. The paws thing came from one of his furry friends sharing the gofoundme, but he is a furfag he had to insert his furfagottry in it and retarded normalfags ran with it. Some of you are such fucking newfags.
https://dogpatch.press/2019/09/10/hoax-alt-right-trolls/

No. 1627061

>>1627059
Sorry I don't trust a furry website.

No. 1627065

>>1626961
God I remember that drawing. It was so disturbing that it's been seared in my memory. I am sure I saw it somewhere on this site but I can't remember which thread. It's just not in the recent artist salt threads.

No. 1627073

>>1626948
I also have to post art in the thread to get accepted, i don’t want to leave a significant footprint on /ic/. I know I’m literally a nobody in a sea of nobodies and a few bizarre artists on /ic/ but it makes me so anxious.
I don’t trust most of the people on any /ic/ server either

No. 1627074

>>1627061
yeah but you trust random caps on an anon imageboard.

No. 1627075

>>1626920
>>1627045
Anybody else also notice the moles on her neck? Similar placement to homie's recent shirt selfies.

No. 1627082

>>1627075
yeah, its her, sherlock

No. 1627084

>>1627073
I wouldn’t want to post in /ic/ to get accepted to their discord either

No. 1627086

>>1627082
No need to be rude. Just pointing it out as possible further evidence since the Tumblr blogs that people archived are ancient and have long been deleted.

No. 1627088

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No. 1627089

>>1627086
>no need to be rude
kek, all these new people asking to be spoonfeed and thinking their ''my uncle works at nintendo'' claims are worth a shit without posting screenshots are twitter refugees. No one was talking about this retard anymore until she became viral with the twitter kiddies.

No. 1627091

>>1627088
she totally just drew this as a joke, y'all!!!

No. 1627093

>>1627088
I know most tifs have a CSA sob story to explain away their fetishes but I'm starting to think this particular flavor of degeneracy is less I dO iT tO cOpE and more the result of withdrawn kids growing up with too much access to adult fanfic and hentai.

No. 1627094

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>>1627088
I'll take the ban for a-log but damn I hate this fucking freak so much, this is the first time a woman managed to hurt my soul with mere drawings, there's such a dark vibe in these works, the amount of detail involved it's just making it worse, the more you look at it the worse it gets. I keep having intrusive thoughts about her mutilation fetish and her goddamn leg, to the point I'm currently doing a conscious effort to forget she ever existed

No. 1627096

>>1627094
You're right and I agree.

No. 1627097

>>1627094
who is she? sorry i dont normally browse art threads but that drawing has made me uncomfortable

No. 1627098

>>1627094
thats not what a-log mean

No. 1627102

>>1627098
I know a-logging implies wishing harm on someone but as we are on hellweek I didn't want to risk it

No. 1627105

>>1627094
I understand how you feel. Seeing shit like that can make me lose faith in humanity and consider the need for authoritarian governments that suppress people's freedoms and expression.

No. 1627107

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>>1627091
Even she doesn't claim it as a joke, she is super into amputation as a kink. I remember even as far back as her dangan ronpa art, part of the reason she was super into Komaeda is because he had an amputated hand.

She was well known for this AU she made.

No. 1627108

>>1627102
risk what? no one has ever been banned for saying they hate a cow, its the whole point of this site. People say more heinous stuff to shayna.

No. 1627111

File: 1688737401665.jpeg (2.12 MB, 2242x3262, IMG_5182.jpeg)

>>1626772
Your dates are way off.
From someone who was deep in the matsu fandom to witness this all happening in real time:
> 18 September 2016 (your screenshot): Kellan wants to fuck Todokaras but she just had her phallo (“circumcision”) so they can’t.
> 07/08/2016 is the timestamp on the dogfucking video.
This hadn’t been made public yet.
> Mar 30 2017 (picrel) Todokaras gets outed by her ex.
Todokaras had fucked her brother’s dog and sent this video to Homoeboy. Honoeboy released the receipts after they broke up.

Kellan is messed up for a thousand different reasons but she didn’t keep talking with Todokaras post dogfuckery, because nobody relevant or known kept in contact. Todokaras deleted the same day she was exposed. She has tried to make comebacks but nobody has publicly interacted with her since then.
All of this info is in the kiwi farms thread.

No. 1627112

>>1627107
Kek, I remember this AU. She seemed rather normal to me back then. I wonder what caused her to go full retard.

No. 1627115

>>1627094
This reminds me, in all this lurking homie's account I uncovered that an artist I liked in my tumblr years draws extreme loli/shota now, I guess I should of figured since her style was cutesy with a little hints of erotic implication, but not overtly pornographic, it had an old retro comic feel, and I enjoyed that about her work. Sad to see what spending too much time in enabling online circles does to people. I think people should be bullied for it, if just to hopefully stop and look at yourself.

No. 1627121

>>1627111
Thanks for the correction on that. Good to know if nothing else, Homie isn't down with dogfucking. The bar has never been lower

No. 1627134

>>1627089
There's obviously milk but it's so hard to follow itt, like "there's a KF post", I don't even get what I'm supposed to try to search there, there are a thousand zoophiles and other degenerates on KF.

No. 1627136

>>1627134
If you're wondering, it's in the "Proship discourse" thread within the "Community Watch" board. There is nothing new in the post though. It's just from someone who admitted to gathering most of their information from here and is just a very general summary of the whole thing.

No. 1627149

>>1626753
Lmfao anon you’re a real one for this

No. 1627150

>>1627134
all the milk has been posted before, read the other threads

No. 1627156

>>1627059
Nope. You must be an actual newfag to buy that bullshit. There are videos of people delving into this, his scamming, his participation in a BIID Facebook group, etc. Stop listening to retarded furries crying about alt right boogeymen whenever their degeneracy is discussed, that's how some people end up defending KeroTheWolf.

No. 1627161

>>1627156
Nta and I'm sorry but was this the best video you could find to prove your point? It's made by a literal sped.

No. 1627168

>>1627156
is that video supposed to prove anything? really? a video with 500 views of a guy using a text to speech program, spitting petty insults like a 14yo and providing no proof at all? if all you said was real then it would be all over kiwi farms, since they would salivate at the though of a gay furfag with an amputee fetish that's a scammer, yet all the ''proof'' is bullshit, no screenshots, nothing. The video doesnt even mention the guy wanting to replace his hands with paws, because its total bullshit. The guy doesnt even have social media presence anymore.

No. 1627179

>>1627168
>>1627161
You obviously didn't watch it if you think there are no screenshots. Anyway, you can check KF for more details, Google his real name (it's in the video, won't post here since it's likely doxxing, though he did change his Twitter name to it), etc or continue simping for furries. The article you linked to "debunk" was posted by an extremely biased friend of the subject trying to spin a political narrative, this is no different from insisting homie just had an accident or that Keffals and Liz-Fong Jones are completely innocent.

No. 1627180

>>1627027
This. Seriously, some of these anons are either very very naive or they're whiteknighting this particular tif for some reason. In a world where attention seekers like Kelly exist, is it really that hard to believe that a tif who drew this shit >>1627088 , made several drawings and posts fantasizing about cutting off her leg and then actually got that leg amputated didn't find a way to do it herself/induce it?
It's like saying that a moid drawing very realistic lolishota shit totally isn't into real kids, because you have no proof he is! Like come on now.

No. 1627185

File: 1688745274163.png (38.01 KB, 1970x140, fake and gay.png)

>>1627179
this is the only thing that comes up if you search his name in kf, stop lying. We all hate furfags and its fun to hate on them, but that doesnt mean we have to be retarded and trust anything we read online without proof.

No. 1627191

>>1627185
Try searching his username, newfag. Another thing: You don't "fall asleep" with your hands in two buckets of dry ice "for arthritis". That's not a thing, and you have to be a naive idiot to believe it.

No. 1627208

File: 1688746239056.png (61.31 KB, 750x703, efe2.png)

Deleting a bunch of tweets, and liking posts by mutuals talking about wanting to play with his stumps. Totally seems like someone in pure grief over an unfortunate accident.

No. 1627215

>>1627191
A good portion of furfags have a fetish for paws too. I also find it kinda hard to believe that someone can just fall asleep with their hands in dry ice to the point they need to be amputated…

No. 1627223

File: 1688747304601.jpg (169.97 KB, 1078x407, bhj.jpg)

Just found this. Yeah, no. He did that shit on purpose. I will not believe his furry BFF. This is not sane. Reposted because I used the wrong image lmao

No. 1627228

>>1627191
i searched both, and nothing. So you either ss the proof and post it or i call bullshit.

No. 1627240

>>1627208
that's just common furry bullshit, the same reason why the other furry said the phrase of the paws. Furries are just cringe like that. They have the humor of rawr xd emo kids of the 00s.
>>1627223
the magic wand is a massager, my mom owns one and she doesnt use it as sex toy, he even starts the phrase by saying ''sex is cool and all BUT''. God i hate when people make up bullshit just because they think its fun.

No. 1627241

File: 1688747797164.png (310.47 KB, 1377x867, dogpatchpress.png)

It's weird how the person who claims to have "searched" KF and demands spoonfeeding somehow doesn't realize "Dogpatchpress" (the one insisting PretzelzCollie didn't do it for a fetish) is a cow with a 33-page thread who masturbated in public and has defended unsavory individuals in the past. I'm tired of the twitterfags addicted to defending these kinds of people ITT.

No. 1627243

>>1627240
You're trying so hard to make excuses, this has to be bait.

No. 1627245

>>1627241
how should i know? i am not a furfag.Again if the amputee guy did it for a fetish you would link me to his kf threads instead of to a video with 500 views made by a retard.

No. 1627246

>>1627245
>how should i know?
Do you know how KF and its search function works? Also, if you're really insisting there's "nothing" on searching the amputee furry's username, you're either so lazy it's not worth spoonfeeding you further, or you're definitely lying about knowing how to use KF.

No. 1627251

>>1627246
i already searched, both using kfs search function and by his name+ kiwifarms on brace, and found jack-shit.

No. 1627262

>>1627243
It has to be trolling at this point. I get wanting to see concrete evidence, but sometimes you have to use your brain and deduce information yourself.

No. 1627265

>>1627088
In case anyone still doubts homie or the furry guy have BIID and fetishes, dry ice is extremely common for this, and homunculus literally drew art of herself using it here >>1626920. You don't relax into dry ice, that shit fucking hurts, it's not "just an accident" and it's not a painkiller of any sort.

https://academic.oup.com/jbcr/article/43/Supplement_1/S184/6552484
>A 20-year-old man with self-diagnosed Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) sustained a 12% TBSA FB injury to his BLE following intentional submersion in dry ice for an estimated 4 hours (Figure 1). He presented to the Burn Center from an outside facility approximately 12 hours post injury with initial rewarming having already occurred. He immediately underwent catheter directed intra-arterial thrombolysis with tissue plasminogen activator (TPA) for leg length preservation. TPA infusion was initiated at 16 hours post-injury for a total infusion time of 24 hours. Wound care consisted of gentle twice daily cleansing with silver sulfadiazine and mafenide acetate creams. The patient ultimately required bilateral below the knee amputations which successfully healed with minimal autografting to the distal limbs. He was formally diagnosed with schizophrenia by our behavioral health team and initiated on risperidone. He underwent aggressive physical therapy and was discharged home with his parents after 21 days. He underwent weekly mental health follow up appointments and has been seen regularly in our burn and rehabilitation clinic.

https://www.news24.com/life/wellness/body/condition-centres/leg/leg-problems/man-froze-off-hated-right-leg-20120721
>An Australian father-of-three who had "hated" his right leg for 25 years told how he plunged it in a bucket of dry ice for six hours so surgeons at a Sydney hospital had no choice but to amputate below the knee.

>Openshaw said he has a rare neurological condition called body integrity identity disorder (BIID), which sufferers claim is a medical condition characterized by an overwhelming desire to lose a limb or become a paraplegic.


>Other BIID sufferers have used the dry ice technique to bring on a hospital amputation. An unknown number mutilate themselves or find backstreet surgeons willing to do the job for them. Though there are thousands of people around the world like Openshaw who claim to have BIID, many psychologists refuse to recognise it as a genuine identity trait. There is only one case of a doctor agreeing to cut off the limb of a BIID sufferer.


https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Health/story?id=1806125&page=1
>Karl is a double amputee, but not by accident, birth or disease. He is an amputee by choice.

>Six years ago, Karl (who asked that his real name not be used) sat alone in a parked car with 100 pounds of dry ice and an obsession to destroy his legs.


>"The first thing I did was I used a wooden flour scoop to scoop some granulated dry ice into the bucket. … It filled the wastebasket with carbon dioxide gas, which was 79 degrees below zero," he said.


>Over the next 45 minutes, Karl put his legs in the wastebasket and then kept adding dry ice until it got to the top. "I spent the next six hours well-packed in the dry ice, and then I'd add more dry ice to keep it topped off," he said.


https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/the-strange-cases-of-healthy-people-who-want-to-be-disabled-1.3757705
>A 21-year-old man arrived at a hospital and asked for his left leg to be amputated. He had placed it on dry ice for six hours in order to ensure that it would have to be removed. He had longed for it to be amputated ever since he was a little boy.

>This is a real case.

No. 1627281

>>1627265
BIID aka "I am a coomer and I want a lot of attention for a disability I don't have (yet)"

No. 1627283

>>1627088
That's fucking adorable. I love this artist(bait)

No. 1627300

>>1626837
nona we are not in court. we don't have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. common sense is enough here

No. 1627307

Well I guess we have baiters, explains the retardation going on.

No. 1627335

>>1627107
There's a lot of things I can at least kind of imagine how people end up getting into it, even if it isn't my thing. But amputation fetish? Based on some of her work it seems partially that she wants to be taken care of but it's wild considering how badly disabled people are treated in society.

No. 1627347

>>1627307
People like the art style and want to see more of it, simple as. Even if the BIID speculation is true, it's just sad when someone is mentally ill enough to engage in self-harm, but it's not a moral outrage that needs to be punished. I hope they come back and start posting again.

No. 1627363

>>1627347
Yeah yeah, attention-seeking is totally a mental illness and being a shotafag with an amputation fetish is adorable uwu it's just an artstyle!! Kek

No. 1627365

>>1627363
You have to be mentally ill to want to cut off your own leg. No mentally healthy person could possibly be incentivized into doing that, no matter how much attention it brought them. And yes, the art style is good, which is why they gained like 80k followers in a matter of months.

No. 1627367

>>1627347
>>1627365
The artstyle is not good, it's literally countryhumans tier. It's only popular because its "le edgy" coomer stuff. You can find someone else who draws like that without the tif mutilation stuff.

No. 1627369

>>1627367
>The artstyle is not good
Yes it is. You're just seething because you don't like the artist as a person, but that doesn't make the art style bad. If it was truly unappealing, then it wouldn't be so popular.
>You can find someone else who draws like that without the tif mutilation stuff.
Tell me who, please. I want to see it.

No. 1627374

>>1627369
I'm not >>1627363
Find one of the thousands of people who draw circle head stick bodies. The art style is incredibly generic and was popular around the era of animation memes. Underage people latched onto it, hell look at the ugly yandere boyfriend game that autists were obsessed with. Are you actually attracted to the artstyle, or are you attracted to the idea of consuming something seen as problematic?

No. 1627380

>>1627374
Just link one person with the same style. "Circle head with stick bodies" isn't the entirety of the art style, you dingus. It's also the coloring, the detailed backgrounds, the sense of lighting, the facial expressions, etc. You can tell they actually have fundamental art skill behind what they draw, and aren't just latching onto simple character designs as a crutch for not being able to actually draw, which is what 99% of people who try to emulate this sort of style do.

No. 1627381

>>1627369
Her art is mediocre at best, stylistically there's nothing to be said about it.

No. 1627389

>>1627380
The facial expressions are as detailed as the Odd1sOut and their perspective is bad. You are allergic to looking up words people tell you to

No. 1627403

>>1627389
Nah, it's good. And there are certain things that the Odd1sOut does well, too, but it's just not the same. People often follow artists because they like their specific way of drawing things, not because it's vaguely similar to something else (but not really). There is only one person with that exact art style in existence, and I and tens of thousands of other people happen to also find it appealing.

No. 1627408

>>1627403
Just how limited is your exposure to art to think that shit is is good?

No. 1627414

>>1627408
prove that it's bad, then

No. 1627419

>>1627380
>Detailed backgrounds
>Coloring
>Sense of lighting
>facial expressions
The "detailed backgrounds" are just some shitty shaky lines, the coloring is muddy, the lighting isn't even there in most illustrations and when it's there it's incredibly mediocre, and the "facial expressions" are literally a round face with two big cartoony eyes. It is objectively mediocre and you're really just attracted to this attention-seeking person instead. But you're just baiting very badly.

No. 1627421

>>1627414
Are you retarded

No. 1627423

Legless TiF thread when?

No. 1627425

>>1627423
Never. since she has no legs to stand on.

No. 1627427

>>1627414
Nta but Her art is pretty mediocre kek. I can bet I can replicate this no problem using 3d assets from clip studio and using a ink tool kek. Improve your visual library tifdefender

No. 1627428

>>1627419
>The "detailed backgrounds" are just some shitty shaky lines
Yeah, you're totally not biased at all.
This artist got popular extremely fast, and it's not hard to see why. The style is appealing and they draw cute stuff. I hate amputation shit, but really, truly like the style and you'll never talk me out of liking it.
>>1627427
I can bet that there will be something off about yours and that your inauthentic attempt to copy someone else won't appeal to people like me in the same way, but I welcome you to try. I'd like to see it.(whiteknight)

No. 1627430

>>1627369
Anon, I can tell you’re new because you’re not saging your posts: you’re right that people automatically say her art is bad because of a moral bias. Yes, her stuff is actually good, her fma, mp100 and Dangan Ronpa content has unsurprisingly gathered a fanbase, she does have rendering/animation styles, and her creativity only just started to decline with the leg shit/uncreative white blob things. But yeah, she’s good. At the same time, because she’s a mentally ill shotafag and therefore satan incarnate, though, everybody here will be hellbent on saying she’s shit and there’s really nothing you can say to change it. If she was making pro terf stuff (don’t get me wrong, that’d be based) and got hit and killed by a car, then the same people would be sad because ‘such a cool and talented artist died, rip’. If I was you I wouldn’t bother, and I’d try to integrate better.

No. 1627432

>>1627430
Even without the content, the art style is just overdone. It's nothing unique and you can find the elements in other artists. But having an ugly art style on top of making pedoshit is even worse. No one here would defend her style either way, and that's how I know certain anons are tourists.

No. 1627439

>>1627428
Sometimes bad people know how to make good art… and sometimes it's just a mentally ill woman who literally cut off her limb for a fetish. Wow real quality art there..

No. 1627440

File: 1688760353177.png (3.72 MB, 1650x3311, 1688743244123613.png)

why the fuck are korean webtoons so hideous. I know manga gets memed for having derivative artstyles, but webtoons are miles worse, there isnt a single unique style in this sheet, even though its supposed to have the best of the best to attract new readers.

No. 1627446

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nonnas, just finished reading the todokaras thread from /snow/ and knowing what kind of groupie homie, and possibly more of this same level of degenerate with mediocre level of art skill are scattered all over the internet is making lose hope in humanity
I was there when there's a twitter account compiling all of todokaras' horrors, on god my brain has repressed all of that information to protect me
I don't care whether Homie's BIID real or not I don't want to share the same space with homie's nor the audience generated from that kind of content. This is why drawing slightly NSFW these days get you immediately grouped with lolisho/amputee/fetish artists. How did we all get here.

No. 1627455

>>1627430
Who would ever say her art is good? Even a random with no drawing knowledge would look at it and say "it's okay?"

No. 1627463

>>1627446
I'm in the same boat, I have no idea and it's kind of sad, especially if you want to draw NSFW. I know that putting things such as "dni x or y, etc" in your bio is what a lot of people do, but I think it's ugly/clutters your space, and I think things are more nuanced than that. I wish the internet (moreso twitter) right now wasn't so "if you're okay with this then you must be okay with this".

No. 1627465

>>1627380
>the facial expressions

No. 1627489

File: 1688763361415.jpg (106.29 KB, 584x1200, FkBctK8aMAArWb7.jpg)

>>1627440
I have a theory webtoons boom is from teens and tweens who don't have access or knowledge of classic anime, maybe at the start. Though as for the art style I beleive things get simplified because it's a group effort with loose art direction.

https://twitter.com/HOJI_98/status/1603383419710627842

No. 1627493

>>1627430
>This mediocre tif I really love has a great artstyle and if you say otherwise you're just jealous!!
Holy shit I thought there were actual artists with good tastes here. "She's good because she has a lot of followers" seriously? There are so many underage edgy retards on twitter who will follow any tif making mediocre edgy art (and a lot of pedos into shota). Good to know you can shit out some muddy vent drawing with big round faces and cartoon characters and some idiotic autist will call it a masterpiece.

No. 1627498

>>1627430
Sakimichan also has a lot of followers it really doesn't mean that an artist is good

No. 1627504

>>1627498
Sakimi is also losing her skills because she cashed in on trends.
>>1627440
It used to have unique styles but webtoons are different from regular manwha. Webtoons from all countries are trash. The format works only online, if you print it you’re in for a lot of work. Didn’t a popular one try, like Lore Olympus?

No. 1627513

>>1627084
Being associated with /ic/ is one thing but being associated with LC is a whole other beast. From the comments made her it seems to have a lot of LC nonnies and well LC discord servers are a mess from what I understand. I’m still weighing the pros and cons, I know I’m overthinking it but I can’t help it

No. 1627517

>>1627504
All her current work is clearly 3d models she painted over and photobashed it's insane to me that she went from working on mass effect to this

No. 1627521

>>1627517
Samefag just to say there isn't anything inherently wrong with photobashing or painting over models but just the fact that you can so easily tell because she's lazy and doesn't change things enough

No. 1627525

>>1627493
Anon might as well say we're jealous of her amazing story telling skills.

No. 1627528

>>1627440
Judging from the covers on your list, those aren’t really bad. There’s much worse art styles specifically the one on the right here >>1627489 i dont hate it but it’s so overused.

No. 1627556

File: 1688765973399.png (136.84 KB, 1612x1733, so hard to copy omg.png)

>>1627428
omg woe is me! i can not copy this majestic pedos artstyle waaah!

No. 1627565

>>1627556
nta but how do you fuck up such a basic style, i was laughing at the other anon for white knighting so hard over a mediocre artist, but maybe she was onto something.

No. 1627577

>>1627489
It's not that deep really. It's time. That's why so many of the historical fantasy ones for example will use the same CSP 3D assets.
There's plenty of amazing Korean webtoons, but just like with manga you just have to find what you like in between the trash.

No. 1627601

>>1627556
>>1627565
kek this is exactly what their art style looks like though, except they're bald majority of the time

No. 1627611

>>1627565
Idk anon, looks about the same to me. Nona just doesn't care enough to clean up the lines.

No. 1627615

>>1627556
Her use of South Park eyes makes the art soooo expressive lol

No. 1627646

>>1627088
her perspective isn't even correct here she has like three different horizon lines going on, one point perspective is literally the easiest to do too

No. 1627655

>>1626293
i see people going to it and getting a lot of followers so far, some artists and some streamers. it's just one of the many replacements people have made for twitter so maybe wait and see.

No. 1627662

>>1626961
Kek I'm sorry but some of you sound so new to the internet. Its obviously a fetish and a fantasy they have. It's so funny to see people dramatize it like this is ID channel.

No. 1627663

>>1627556
NTA but you wanna shut anon’s mouth up yet you went by the easy route instead of emulating the ones with background/detail/perspective/whatever? Try again.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1627666

>>1627663
no ones gonna draw a full art piece for a bit, do you have that kind of time whiteknight?
>>1627662
This site is dedicated to collecting, gathering, and laughing at people like that. Their comment is nothing new, and frankly I missed talks about cows in this thread

No. 1627667

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>>1627663
she quite literally has no grasp on perspective anon lol

No. 1627671

>>1627667
I apparently have no grasp of perspective either cos at first glance I thought it was fine

No. 1627672

>>1627180
But who is saying they didn't actually do it? Literally all people are saying is that the speculation means fuck all without screenshots, there's too many twitterfags coming in here and saying "my uncle works for the CIA and he said" type shit

No. 1627674

>>1627223
There are people out here hitachi'ing their stumps to completion? What the hell

No. 1627676

Slight ot from amputee fetish tif, judging by the fan art I'm seeing, the current fan base for spiderman has really shifted from male to female and I wonder why this is. Is it literally cos the newest characters are attractive?

On topic for amputee tif I wonder what came first, being a tranny or fetishising amputation, and if one caused the other cos I really would not be surprised.

No. 1627677

File: 1688773073127.jpeg (Spoiler Image,440.33 KB, 1000x850, 31b55e541352bc99859a39da7a0b91…)

kek, imagine having such a small visual libary that a flat and bland background with nonsensical perspective impresses you

No. 1627679

>>1627556
Anyone acting as if this wasn't on the same level as homunculus' art is coping. Or baiting, baiting would be less sad.

No. 1627681

>>1627671
she has really beginner mistakes like making the horizon line too high it makes everything look like a down shot even if the characters look otherwise straight on. Not speaking on this one but looking up her other work it becomes a noticeable trend, especially in the 1 point perspective pieces. also things not lining up to the same point

I know I'm nit picking but her tangents are also driving me crazy

No. 1627684

>>1627677
Theyre children. Teenagers. They don't know any better.

No. 1627692

>>1624849
i have the opposite problem and it sucks as well. i have no defined image in my head of what i want my art to look like, so i don't know what to do differently in order to improve. i'm never really satisfied with anything i draw and i can't tell why because there's no "goal"/nothing to compare it to. sometimes i wonder if i'll just feel this way forever.

No. 1627693

>>1627684
Either that or they're their friends, or at least adjacent to them. One already admitted to following someone mentioned here despite them having 200 followers >>1626722

No. 1627703

The Homie situation has not been funny or even interesting but so upsetting for me even though she did that to herself. Just seeing someone so shameless about being so fucked up and predatory makes me wanna a-log. I hope she kills herself or something, especially after seeing all the supportive and horny replies under her sinister pedophile fantasy art. If she hasn’t already, she’ll hurt a kid in the future if she ever gets the opportunity.(alogging)

No. 1627736

>>1627666
Not a whiteknight, retard, I said what I was expecting because was referencing this post. >>1627427

No. 1627741

>>1627440
Maybe it's because i'm a weeb and prefer a more classic monochrome manga style but while i don't think most webtoons are ugly per se, i still think a lot of them seems to be rushed af, even for the more popular ones and often have very very similar artstyles. To take an example from your list, i feel like i can find 10 webtoons with the same artstyle as "Roxanna". And don't get me started on 2d characters drawn over very obvious 3d models. Peak laziness.

No. 1627743

>>1627736
Then it most likely wasn't that anon who did the drawing.

No. 1627751

>>1627703
Her whiteknights sound like they'll do the job for her, with all their talk of smashing kids' teeth in with crowbars and getting them assaulted.

No. 1627753

>>1627703
How new of you

No. 1627765

>>1627676
Attractiveness + shipping shit, nonna. That's basically the state of all popular fandoms nowadays. The current (vocal) Spiderman fanbase is only for the Spiderverse films though, I haven't really seen many go back to actually look at the older comics that many of the characters came from.

No. 1627785

>>1627684
>They don't know any better.
So many kids and teens learn that adults say this and will purposefully use it to get away with shit while knowing what they're doing is bad or stupid, even if they don't know the extent of why it's bad or stupid.

No. 1627795

File: 1688786862998.png (1.34 MB, 906x1574, Screen Shot 2023-07-07 at 11.2…)


No. 1627798

>>1627795
Can someone tell me how we know these are both Homie's blogs? Is it in this mythical KF thread?

No. 1627799

>>1627785
Nta but it's just anons saying they think the art is good, I don't think it's that serious kek

No. 1627803

It's weird to see anons like this art while constantly complaining about bean mouth which it borderline is kek

No. 1627809

>>1627676
No that’s just Spider verse fans, Spider-man is so big that there’s it’s own little communities, like the Venomfags, cosplay guys with their spandex suits, the Riami fans etc. It’s like how Star Wars has the men who are autistic as shit about the originals or whatever and then the Tumblr girls who like Kylo or Anakin. Huuuuge fandoms/franchises are just like that. I mean like a while ago the Spider-man fans I saw the most were Gen Z Tom Holland MCU fans.

No. 1627829

File: 1688789048850.png (3.75 MB, 2994x1924, HomieArt.png)

Sorry for my bad photoshop skills, but this is a comparison of their art on the Tumblr and Twitter. As well as screenshots of them expressing interest in the same fandom. From what I can gather:
>interested in the same fandoms
>interested in the same ships
>both have emo aus with the exact same style
>uses the same art style
>kokichi (dangonronpa) obsession
>interested in amputee ship art
Can't compile a lot of art or other screenshots because the tumblr has been nuked, and the Homunculus100_ is suspended right now. If anyone has anything to add, please let us know.

No. 1627831

>>1627803
Because it isnt anons, it's the transplants that came after the callout post that are now camping itt hoping for more dopamine

No. 1627896

The artist is undoubtedly fucked up but I’m sad they got run off the internet and we can’t watch their degenerate antics anymore lmao

No. 1627910

>>1627073
>>1627084
I know /ic/ is a cesspit but there's people who Made It(tm) that definitely posted or lurked there before. Though I am more fearful of the lc association because people will burn women on a stake for thinking bio sex is real rather than rubbing elbows with incels at moidchan.

No. 1627951

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There's this indie RPG "Book of Travels" stuck in early access development hell that looks really interesting artistically and chill to play but the devs decided to ruin it with tranny logic. Basically the characters (which are human and not an alien race) are supposed to be genderless blobs. When you build your character you get to choose from different "forms" (base models of different types) and something like a free form field to enter your gendie-gender. Because that whole concept is impossible to design even with a very stylized art style the figures mostly just look like they're all women – like, the base design for everyone is leg-heavy and pear-shaped with tiny hands and feet. It's just so stupid, why would you ruin your whole game like that. I feel so bad for all sane artists and devs involved.

No. 1627988

>>1627896
She has a habit of dfe'ing anytime she gets even a slight bit of heat but comes back a few months later. She's done it a couple times now. With the leg thing getting found out by normies this time I wonder if it scared her off for good. Though you never know, she DID get her leg amputated for attention. If she's done it several times already I'm pretty confident she'll be back.

No. 1628047

>>1627896
>>1626777
>>1626775
>>1624877
>>1625177

Thread for Homunculus100_ is now up on >>>/snow/1860168

Please post screencaps there for archiving.

No. 1628058

>>1627951
This games art style looks ugly as fuck, even higurashi sprites look better than this

No. 1628076

>>1627601
>>1627611
i know we all hate the dumb amputee freak, but you cant deny there is some talent in her art that >>1627556 couldnt capture. For example, homie knows the right amount of detail to use before it starts to look stiff and weird, she also has a good enough grasp in proportions and her stylization doesnt look like they added a countryball head to an otherwise normal body, anon's art looks like poorly done southpark art rather than homie's style. I hate that now this thread is invaded by twitterfags you have to either be completly against a cow or else you are baiting. I wont tolerate a smug retard just because a cow is more retarded.

No. 1628079

>>1627676
its because its a sausage fest, i dont consider them attractive enough to warrant a female fanbase, but also there is so little media with male characters that arent outright disgusting that even two average male characters are enough to get a mostly female fanartist audience

No. 1628086

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thief steals art and profits at ax whilst the original artist was rejected. the ig acc of the thief dandingeroz and sketchcartel are now privated but i rly hope the situation doesnt blow over and they get named and shamed.

No. 1628095

>>1628086
Aren’t cons supposed to vet the people who get in? I can see why her work was rejected if the theme wasn’t pushed far enough. Her fanart is on a plain background while the thief incorporated Japanese art elements. However the thief should have been rejected and banned from selling.

No. 1628099

>>1628076
KEK your tastes are trash and your favourite artist isn't good, get over it

No. 1628131

>>1628099
again with the twitterfag mentality of either with us or against us. I dont even like their art, but i understand why they had so many followers and that other anon pretending her art has no merit at all is a retard with a lack of understanding of basic appeal and her shitty art shows it.

No. 1628143

>>1628095
Unless they know all artists, they wouldn't easily know it was traced. Also, I'm pretty sure AX has a lottery system for tables so the thief having the slightest bit of a background wouldn't have made a difference.

No. 1628150

>>1628058
Well, it's not an anime game, it's more in the artsy casual game subgenre. I think the style is fine in theory, it's very small figures in painterly landscapes, it's just that they can't design appealing character with that premise. You could have the same style concept and make them look appealing if you don't dance around clear gender markers.

No. 1628158

>>1628076
>low effort tumblr cartoon art
>objectively good
do get offline and try visiting a museum one of these days

No. 1628163

>>1628131
Her art IS bad and has no merit though. You're just stupid and naive and can't understand that a huge following doesn't come with objectively good art. Twitter is full of autists who are drawn to cartoons and shitty tranny vent art, that's why she has so many followers. Not because her art is actually good. You say you don't like her art but then go on to compliment her on things her art doesn't have like proportions and style, you call her talented when she's simply not.

No. 1628164

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>>1627951
I think you're thinking way too hard about it. It's fine to hate the ambiguously sexed art style, sure. Though saying it's ruined with "tranny logic" is a bit much. Your player character's gender plays 0 role on the actual gameplay. So far I have not encountered they/thems or neo pronouns in game though pleasantly there's NPCs, quest givers, and lore from blurbs that mention same sex relationships. Slight spoilers about humans There's a few species that are definitely 2 legged humanoids but not human-human per se. There's small people that work like a hivemind and produce asexually. There's race of giants that get reborn into a new body when they die. The world has spiritual gods that can or cannot die
And personally I thought the dimmed is male.

No. 1628187

>>1628163
It's appealing, and Anon's attempt at a gotcha moment isn't, as simple as that. Having the lack of self-awareness to try to imitate such a simple style while fucking it up at everything that made it appealing in the first place just to try to own someone who dared to say they liked her art style is really pathetic and peak Twitterfag behavior.

No. 1628188

>>1628164
I didn't claim that zero of the forms could be interpreted as male, but to me they mostly look female and that shows that gender-ambiguous character creation doesn't work unless you seriously design a non-human species. It's definitely part of the game, forms are supposed to be ambiguous and you get a freeform gender field for all of them. If the gender plays no role why not just make a character selection with some male and female base models (you can still gender-lock classes for worldbuilding reasons and give out free pronoun choice to the trannies) Or just go "lol this world is only inhabitated by females" and call it a day. I'm pretty sure they're tying themselves into pretzels trying to scale this idea.

No. 1628192

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>>1628188
I'd argue it's just the cheaper option rather than making 2 illustrated drawings/2 body models for each of the player characters lol. I don't know if it helps but in a recent update they gave some hair/facial hair customizations as well. I think they don't lock the gender per class because it's a game where you roleplay with a character you write. Sure, I also want more customization, I almost wish most special equipment render on the character model similar to ffxiv but that sadly doesn't sound possible with the scale of the game. I am not sure if they're tying themselves into a pretzel because of that though. I'm trying to see your point of view but to me it's not a big deal especially when the game is very scaled out from all the characters like pic rel which is why there's barely any features in the first place.
There's another similar game, Sky: Children of Light, another MMO where you just make friends with strangers and explore and that too had ambiguous bodies if you look outside long hair = female. short = male.

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No. 1628203

I love James gurney so much. I rarely paint realistically or even use gouache, but the way he teaches to visualize value and structure is par to none. I’m sure you all know this but he’s active on YouTube and is a joy to watch.
I really hope I’ll get the chance to meet him one day. He seems like such a kind man.

No. 1628207

>>1627556
This doodle has eyes that touch and has realistically proportioned arms and a detailed hand that don’t match the South Park face; see >>1627677 ; homunculus’ eyes don’t touch, are much smaller, and her bodies (so arms and hands) are stylized too. Not realistically proportioned like the “gotcha” one.
This is shit, anon, and >>1628187 is right. It’s embarrassing to watch anons sucking each others cocks and whine about twitterfags while pretending that shitty doodle actually looks like homunculus’ style when anon couldn’t even nail a simple stylized hand and torso.(nitpicking)

No. 1628209

>>1628086
I always thought TsaoShin's drawings where boring as fuck but it sucks to know how easy someone can steal a drawing and get away with it

No. 1628215

>>1628192
Yeah it's cheaper for sure but even if you really want to have 12 archetypes or whatever and can't deal with that turning into 24 models you can still split them up into male and female models and add the other 12 as a stretch goal or whatever. Like the feeling I get it's so ideologically driven is actually reinforced to me insofar that they otherwise they seem to go with a a role play philosophy where clear options and restrictions are supposed to be sparking the role play (which I agree with and prefer opposed to "anyperson" type chars which I find bland.) I guess that's all I can say, glad you can still enjoy this game, I can't.

No. 1628241

>>1628192
The tiny heads look like globohomo art. No thanks. It had potential with what ideas you’ve told me but I wouldn’t want to play this.
>>1628203
He’s great. I get defensive when randos get mad at him for jokes. He’s old so he doesn’t seem to get online culture a lot; which is great because he’s out there living life. A year ago he did a collab with some other painters and the gist was you add on to an existing painting and then ship it to the next artist to add to it. He made a joke about burning the painting and commenters got up in arms about it even though he showed it was a joke in the video and they didn’t like his contribution. The previous artist even came in and defended his add-on.
Also I wish we could see more of his wife’s work. She does pen and ink/watercolor. I’ve only seen bits of it but it would be cool if he made a Q and A video for her. Maybe she’s camera shy.

No. 1628251

>>1628203
I've met him before at an art workshop and he's as kind as he is in his YouTube videos. He was a very personable and humble man and was very interested in seeing other all of our artwork. Got him to sign my copy of Color and Light too with a little dinosaur doodle to boot.

No. 1628253

>>1628215
Thanks for giving it a check either way, Nonny. I realize you can't overlook the genderless thing but if you could you'd be amazed at the little things the game has to offer. Sorry for shilling, I have low hopes for the game servers staying up for long because of its massive flop at launch. I love it to bits but the team is doing what they can.
>>1628241
kek, personally I like it even if my own art style and regular niche doesn't look anything remotely like it. They blend really well with the stylized backgrounds.

No. 1628254

>>1628187
Wow you sure sucking homie non existent dick too much, her art is mediocre at best stop sperging like how a pedos art is good the same could be said for glitchedpuppet her normal art is pretty but she's a fucking zoophile piece of shit.

No. 1628270

>>1628241
Yeah it's definitely globohomo art style.

No. 1628272

>>1628207
>hurr this doodle is not perfect!
No one said it was, it's just how any normal person sees Homie's style.
Also maybe it's not perfect because it's, you know, a doodle retard

No. 1628283

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>>1628203
what do you recommend to get started with gurney? i have seen him recommended by aruurara and this guy, and since i suck pretty badly at coloring i wanna check him out

No. 1628287

>>1628272
imagine sucking at capturing such an easy style and comming here smugly trying to prove anything, kek. Back to fundies nonny.

No. 1628289

>>1628086
Conventions should stop the lottery system because they're too lazy to look through applications, it's the most unfair. I suspect there's more theft happening in AA than we know.

No. 1628292

>>1628241
>>1628270
By globohomo you guys mean corporate memphis style? Cause yeah, when I looked at >>1627951 I had mixed feelings because there are things I like in it, but the corporate art elements really devalue it. I wonder why the artists chose to do it that way, it feels like they have the skills to do better, but I guess memphis has been ingrained into some people, or maybe they thought it'd make it look modern and give a more general appeal.

No. 1628293

>>1628272
>>1628254
“You don’t need skill to draw like her, such a bland style, anyone could do the exact same in minutes!”
> anon shits out a south park face with anatomically correct-ish proportions and unlike the original style
“w-well of course it looks like shit, it was done in minutes!! it wasn’t meant to be like her art, just how others PERCEIVE it! p-pedo zoo white knight!!!”

No. 1628299

>>1628283
There’s not a set series for his videos regarding what you’re looking for since he posts a lot about casein and gouache but tutorials are in his books and DVDs. So if you want to learn more you have to buy. I haven’t found any tutorials but he’ll post snip-its of those ideas in YouTube.
>>1628253
The backgrounds are nice, that caught my eye more than the figures.
>>1628292
Globohomo is also called corporate Memphis yes or Alegeria. They’re easy to produce because they sell them in packs. You can adjust the heads hands and feet without having to draw anything.

No. 1628305

>>1628287
I'm not the artist dumbass
>>1628293
It doesn't even look bad kek it's just two anons who think it does, and one of the whiteknights is rancefag so you know how desperate they really are

No. 1628308

>>1628272
Normal people aren't arguing about Homie. They don't even know she exists lol.

No. 1628312

>>1628308
I don't know if you're purposely being dense or not, but I mean any random person is going to go "yeah those styles look alike" because Homie's style isn't unique

No. 1628324

>>1627094
this post is so dramatic lmao

No. 1628387

>>1628293
I love how you think that somehow more distant eyes and more "correct" proportions (Homie's proportions are atrocious and hardly correct) were going to turn anon's doodle into a masterpiece that can be at the same level as Homie's sacred retarded art. No, they both suck, both are awful and very very mediocre.
>She didn't capture her style!!
And what difference does it make? Her style is still very ugly, anon probably didn't even look at the original style enough because who fucking cares about getting the same exact shitty lines and cartoony eyes.
I get being salty over a cowtipper driving away your precious cow (who is just a regular shotafag tif), but you really don't have to pretend her style was good. It's just tumblr-tier shit.

No. 1628429

>>1628387
nta but its annoying because it's clearly a twitter refugee trying to be smug over it. On a normal thread not invaded by twitter shitters drove by the cowtippers everyone would have made fun of anon's piss poor attempt at trying to copy a cow's simple artstyle and failing miserably at it. You have to be retarded not to see the difference between's anon's attempt and homie's artstyle. Again, i dont like homie's artstyle, but i can see why she was famous AND she was a talented artist >>>/snow/1860256, she just choose a simple artstyle.

No. 1628437

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>>1627115
was it snout/huliia/mimoIet/hulimatsu?
just got suspended but newest account was @sn35out

No. 1628450

>>1628429
That's still pretty mediocre.

No. 1628455

>>1628429
>Talented artist
>A few painterly drawings over some movie screenshots
I mean… good for you if you consider that talent but objectively it's very average. And I doubt the fucked up perspective is a style choice, most likely her style degenerated the more she went down the "autistic mentally ill tranny with self-harm/pedo fetishes" route.

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No. 1628472

>>1628387
…I actually said it’s anon who has more correct-ish proportions, while homunculus has a more stylized approach. Criticizing attention seeking, mediocre “gotcha!”-art anon doesn’t mean worshipping homunculus’ countryball style. I wasn’t sucking homies frankencock by pointing out it’s laughable to attention seek by posting a vaguely related doodle to try to prove someone’s style is shit while completely failing to get the style right.

It’s very weird to see anons acknowledge that just because you’re found of a cow it doesn’t mean they’re less of a fair game (very true) but then get weirdly protective of an anon posting a random vaguely relevant doodle because it counts as ‘us’, and anyone who thinks that’s cow-ish behavior or who acknowledges homunculus does have good art pieces/animations is ‘them’, ‘homie’s friends’, ‘twitterfags’. it’s not whiteknighting if you think both are morons.

No. 1628475

>>1628472
>who acknowledges homunculus does have good art pieces/animations is ‘them’, ‘homie’s friends’, ‘twitterfags’
I don't think that. I just think you're visually illiterate.

No. 1628480

>>1628437
Lolisho is nasty degenerate shit but what do they hope to accomplish by reporting her on sites KNOWN for supporting/hosting lolisho content? Pixiv has tags for toddler, baby, pedo, etc and doesn't give a shit about content as long as the genitals are censored and baraag and pawoo are made to host pedoshit. That's like going to a Child Love convention to call out a single pedophile.

No. 1628481

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I can't believe someone would be so keen on defending some bitch with a lorax movie tier art style because anons don't like that she drew fetish art. Idc about the fetish shit but it's just not that good of an art style and assuming that follower count=quality is retarded
>>1628437
>report them on these websites.
>baraag
KEK sorry, furry shit is gross to me but come on how don't they know about baraag? they're basically doing promo for them by linking that

No. 1628483

nonnies i have a query, are the courses on class 101 any good? im thinking of buying rinotunas course but have heard that the courses there are ok and dont get into much detail considering the price (coloso is good tho), what have your experiences been with these Korean art courses?

No. 1628489

>>1628483
Honestly, I wouldn't spend money on a non-teacher's art class. Just because they can draw well, doesn't mean they know how to teach. You'd be better off doing master copies of the artist you are a fan of.

No. 1628494

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>>1628429
>AND she was a talented artist

This is really the hill you want to die on nona? Expand your visual library, she was a mid fanartist at best. Fanartists always get big followings, it's unhealthy to have the mindset that more followers = better artist

No. 1628497

>>1628480
These kinds of people don't actually care about loli or shota. It doesn't bother them that sites like baraag are literally made for degenerate shit, they never want to take them down, and they never target the actual predators talking about wanting to abuse real life kids or openly brag about abusing animals on that side of the internet (it's a fucking cesspool, pretty sure there's a /snow/ thread about them).
They just get a high off knowing that an account that belongs to whoever they're fixated on is deleted, because they know they did that. Most of the people behind those posts turn out to be former friends/followers of the "artist" in question, and were into all that shit up until they were blocked over whatever autistic furry drama they had, and this is just an easy way to get their attention.

No. 1628515

>>1628483
I don’t know about this artist but I’d say look into official art schools. There’s a lot of great teachers. Schoolism is monthly but you get to check out as many classes as you can before the month ends. Marshall Vadruff release his class on Bridgman for free on YouTube. I like classical art so those are my suggestions but there are a lot of illustrator classes too online. Some artists charge too much and don’t know how to teach so you don’t want to waste money.
>>1628497
How are those sites ok to even host? I accidentally went there since I was researching mastodon as an alternative to Twitter and somehow I got into some creepy art. I felt really gross. I don’t think I’ll try any of that stuff now for social media.

No. 1628532

>>1626753
>>1626758
Ayrt. I wasn't endorsing the cowtipping or moralfaggotry. I was specifically arguing against people who called her insanity "harmless." It's not harmless weirdness, but it's also not bad enough to warrant touching the poop. Hope that makes sense.

No. 1628555

>>1628437
Yeah, that's her. I guess she can draw whatever she wants. I don't moralfag, just wish she went in some other direction with her art vs. rick/morty/donald duck loli porn. Waste of a good style.

No. 1628558

>>1627240
>The magic wand is a massager, my mom owns one and she doesnt use it as sex toy
I don't think your mom is being entirely honest with you, anon…

No. 1628563

Can the loser whiteknighting her mediocre art please leave good lord. She can't even master 1 point perspective she doesn't even have basic fundamentals down

No. 1628574

>>1628563
I haven't participated in that retarded argument because I'm hoping if we ignore it, they'll go away. The art is just like… standard mediocre Tumblr fanart style. Why is there a giant spergout going on over this.

No. 1628577

>>1628574
I've seen better art dumped on here that's what I've been wondering too lol

No. 1628582

>>1628429
100%. There was not nearly this much discussion about them until after that tweet made rounds. Suddenly there's an obsessive twitterfag who wants to talk about it so much they keep making stupid im14andthisisdeep posts because it's giving them an adrenaline pump. So annoying.

No. 1628584

>>1628437
I haven’t seen that name in almost 10 years. In her defense, she probably got groomed into this monster. I was in an online friend group when I was still in hs and all the adults were LARPing sex which I found weird but never engaged with(even though I was encouraged to). I remember I got sick of it and when I was about to leave, she entered the group.

Tl;dr the worst pedos I encountered who actually were preying on younger folk for irl nudes and sexts etc were terminally online women wanting to be men

No. 1628593

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>>1628584
that's sad, I know she used to post about how loli art helped her get over some trauma and OCD

she's also friends with the vtuber Celesse who is an actual pixar employee who posted her loli art on her portfolio sometime ago

No. 1628613

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>>1628584
More on huliia/hulimatsu/snout.
She's a biologist with a PhD. Recently started ADHD medication. Her sister is a normal person who's also active on Twitter. Her bf is some guy named Emilio. She used to draw a lot of Inazuma Eleven, she's been drawing shotashit since 2010

No. 1628615

>>1628584
The teen artist groomed into degenerate kink by their adult "friends" to online degenerate and/or transmasc pipeline is so real. I want to empathize with them as an abuse survivor but the obsession with their fetish and eagerness to use it as a coping mechanism makes me lose all sympathy for them. Many of them are also close to scrotes who take their fetish past fiction like that one shoplifting piss troon. None of them want to acknowledge that there's a sizable amount of creeps in these fetish art communities because they're either just as bad as or afraid of being labeled puritanical or anti. They love shouting about how they're accepting of fiction and not thought police but rode Shadman's dick for over a decade until hard evidence came out that he was into real kids. Even after he had drawn suggestive art of girls who weren't even teenagers. It's disturbing how easily swayed they are. It won't be long before someone with an actual record of convicted sex pestery shows up and gets tons of support and WKs because they're ~coping~ or a tif with a halfway appealing art style.

No. 1628625

>>1628615
God, I hate the "coping" with fiction argument so much. No one can convince me that making porn of little kids is the way you help "cope". Artists who constantly make this stuff and comment the most degenerate things on lolisho posts are all disgusting pedos. I hate that saying this makes people label you as an "anti" because I'm not against seeing these relationships talked about in stories, but there's obviously a difference if it's trying to actually explore it vs. help you get your rocks off.

No. 1628627

>>1628593
Do you have a screencap? I’ve seen hints of that in Procreate, they featured some artist a few years ago and I could tell the artist was a diaper furry from the sanitized image; just looking at his IG proved he was into it. It creeped me out they would promote a degenerate but if Pixar doesn’t care it’s no wonder the art community doesn’t seem to care either.

No. 1628629

>>1628627
Celesse is a woman named Koko

No. 1628633

>>1628613
Did she ever have a sfw art Twitter her name sounds super familiar

No. 1628636

>>1628633
Her sfw art twitter was koko-chou.

No. 1628637

>>1628636
I was asking about huliia not koko lol

No. 1628670

>>1627681
It is a down shot though. The pov someone sitting in a chair

No. 1628677

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>>1628613
I can't even tell what's happening in your pic, anon

No. 1628680

>>1628670
The horizon line is broken then if that's the case. And it's not isometric because the lines at the bottom are converging to a point in the distance.

No. 1628690

>>1628615
>like that one shoplifting piss troon
What?!

No. 1628704

>>1628670
>Not speaking on this one

No. 1628724

>>1628690
idk a lot about tranny artcows but it may be aggy, considering the fetish piss art

No. 1628764

>>1628633
>>1628637
@dohulia was one of her old Twitter handles.

Other facts is that she's Vietnamese and was a French minor. She lived in Washington and used to sell at Seattle cons there.

No. 1628773

>>1628764
>>1628633
Also @hulicopter until like 2014. Cause I'm double posting another fact is that she met her Emilio at a con and they allegedly started dating cause of a kink. I don't remember her first name, but it's not Julia, that's her online alias. She said lolisho Rick and Morty porn helped her get over abandonment trauma with her dad. She's friends with that zoophile poodle fursuiter, Avvypood.

No. 1628790

>>1627556
This just simply is not executed as well as any of homie's stuff and comes off as more dunning-kruger than anything else

No. 1628791

>>1627556
This just simply is not executed as well as any of homie's stuff and comes off as more dunning-kruger than anything else

No. 1628806

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>>1628791
It literally looks like the same shit wdym

No. 1628812

Holy shit are we still sperging about that stupid doodle. They're both objectively bad who gives a fuck

No. 1628814

>>1628773
I feel like I might have seen her stuff on tumblr years ago but I don't remember any loli shit

No. 1628816

>>1628773
>She said lolisho Rick and Morty porn helped her get over abandonment trauma with her dad
They're just using anything as an excuse nowadays huh? I thought it was still in vogue to cook up elaborate child sex trafficking fantasies to justify flicking it to cartoon kids but I guess that died with Soren.

No. 1628819

>>1628773
She was @huliday in 2013. Her name is actually Julia, I got confused with Hulia. She's sold art to Adam Muto before. According to her mom she's some postdoc at Harvard now which is weird for a loli shota artist. Hope she does more instead of draw Disney incest porn. I don't how she did it while also being a IB student that got a shitton of scholarships and grants. Is it the autism and OCD or is she rich?

>>1628816
Idk she didn't talk about it much and idk where he is. She's still talking to her mom and sis. Julia was famous in the Osomatsu fandom for feeding the ants in her apartment because she's Buddhist and her sister complained about it kek. Their dad or uncle is some guy at Boeing in Seattle. It's weird she loves incest so much while still in regular contact with her family. Incest artists like Avvypood and her bf bird/twolipt are completed estranged.

No. 1628834

>>1628819
Forgive me if I'm retarded but isn't avvypood and twolipt the same person?

All these people are the same type of complete nonetheless

No. 1628848

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>>1628773
Is this also her?

I feel like she maybe got the wrong message from lolita

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>>1628299
>The backgrounds are nice, that caught my eye more than the figures.
It's the intention for sure. If anything my criticism is how the style doesn't communicate how old one building is from another, could have been a burnt building from last year to a centuries old megastructure that collapsed from inside and I wouldn't have been able to tell. Unfortunate since history and its mysteries is a huge driving force to most major questlines.

No. 1628866

>>1628848
Wasn't Dolly a miserable abuse victim who cried every night and ran away from Humbert as soon as she could? It's hilarious when dumpy adult women read Lolita with horny autopedo goggles wishing a sexy European unreliable narrator narcissist pedo would come into their life and sweep them off their feet after their mom dies in a car accident.

No. 1628892

>>1628866
Iirc it's even heavily implied he killed her mother after she realized he only married her to molest her daughter

No. 1628896

>>1628848
https://snout.carrd.co/ yes
After some googling it seems mastodon got pretty popular with lolisho and other creepy artists who were getting banned elsewhere. I’m not even surprised. (Do NOT recommend viewing the home page for the server she’s on)

No. 1628900

>>1628896
I've never heard it called lolisho before is this new? Ive only heard it called lolicon

No. 1628902

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>>1628896
Telling that they needed to put this in their about lol

No. 1628935

>>1628848
>>1628866
>>1628892
Retarded pearl clutching. All she said was the book is well written and sad, which is true.

No. 1628944

We should have a term for reverse pearl clutching when anons just dub everyone moralfags because they don't want to think critically.

No. 1628946

>>1628935
That artist’s feed is literally a wall of loli and shota porn

No. 1628947

>>1628935
Given the context of her page it has kind of a different meaning entirely anon

No. 1628948

The lack of critical thinking in this thread so far has been astounding

No. 1628956

>>1628935
She said "before ruin" about her image and even if I can't place it within the timeline (maybe after he killed her mother on a motel bed?) it's a relationship that is abusive from the start to the victim finally getting away.

No. 1628958

>>1628900
some of the creepers on twitter like to use that and other codenames like kodo or bunpup for it, especially if they get suspended a lot.

No. 1628963

>>1628209
Lol same I like the stolen one better tbh.

No. 1628988

>>1628593
>>1628629
>>1628636
Koko Chau is Celesse/Milkscum?? I know the animation industry is full of degens but I wasn’t prepared for how fucking sick her loli shit is. Shame because she’s a decent story artist. Holy fuck

No. 1628991

>>1628497
they cant take down baraag/pawoo because they know lolisho isnt considered illegal in most countries, so intead they focus on artists who have higher skill levels than them. It's funny how it's also always female artists who draw cutesy ddlg shit, never the men.

No. 1628992

>>1628563
>omg her art is so mediocre whiteknights please leave my thread
>meanwhile anon couldnt even copy her mediocre style(Whiteknight)

No. 1629000

>>1628992
Even if you think anons copy is bad that doesn't make her art any better

No. 1629086

>>1628991
I feel like calling this stuff cutesy undersells what it really is

No. 1629092

>>1629086
its cutesy compared to what men draw

No. 1629102

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No. 1629104

>>1628819
Some of this is wrong, but close. Her postdoc was at University of California, San Francisco, and she was a Harvard as a Research Appointee. There's photos of her becauss of her PhD.

No. 1629112

>>1629102
>>1629104
How do you know all this

No. 1629117

>>1628935
Holy shit you're retarded. What is going on with this thread and reading comprehension lately?

No. 1629119

>>1629102
Idk if I'm reading too much into it because of how mermaid or selkie stories usually go but the merboy story gives me sexual vibes as well idk

No. 1629148

>>1629102
Man, you really have to give up your personal style and draw in Disney Style if you want to work at Disney/Pixar huh

>>1629119
Oh absolutely, if you know you know. The shot of the shirt hanging off his shoulder, the tail around the man's leg, the merboy blushing when the man strokes his hair, the gigantic size difference…this would be OK if not for the story direction of the man seeing the merboy as a replacement for his dead son, so there's an allusion to underage, even if the merboy is hundreds of yrs old or whatever. She could've drawn a normal gay merman/man romance or a father+son Pinocchio-esque story smh

No. 1629154

>>1628935
Even if you didn't know about her pedo cartoon porn, why did she draw animesque Lolita fanart in the first place? Are you being obtuse on purpose?

No. 1629164

File: 1688919711894.gif (2.26 MB, 480x270, tumblr_p8dkliURYh1u577k3o1_500…)

>>1629102
Doubleposting but what the fuck.
All of the stuff featuring children on her main page is so creepy and always about a child-older man relationship. See picrel

No. 1629170

>>1629102
rolf what a retard, people have lost their jobs for less

No. 1629178

>>1628992
>Whiteknights please leave
>Meanwhile whiteknight continues to suck on homies fake dick and lick her ass on an anonymous imageboard to impress her

No. 1629228

>>1629164
A teacher noticing and commenting on a change in the little girl's style while she's alone in a classroom (inappropriate, creepy) saying she looks like her mother?? and the girl ???blushing??? this is grooming content, there is no story here.

No. 1629303

>>1629164
What the hell, creepy. And you said this person works at Pixar? Wow, I'm so glad these are the sorts of people in charge of creating media for everyone's kids.

No. 1629323

>>1629164
I think I'll renege on moralfagging, if you work for Pixar and are a openly notable lolicon/pedo artist, you should get fired and blacklisted from all major animation studios. Tinfoiling for a second, but I really do think the world must be ran by pedos if shit like this keeps on being acceptable in a studio whose main demographic is young children. Vent art and hard themes like abuse/exploitation are different than drawing straight up kiddie porn. Even if you aren't out there abusing real children, you're appealing to a demographic that most likely does and will, enabling a libertine atmosphere of no judgement, everything is acceptable just breeds actually despicable behavior in real life. Think of Vewn's Twins in Paradise animation, where it's about child exploitation, death, abuse, drug addiction and a lot of her work plays with themes of a similar caliber. She's one animator who I can say seems to know how to balance the delicate line of disturbing medium without glorifying it or using it as a vehicle for masturbation fodder.

No. 1629327

>>1629323
to be fair, have you see the latest pixar movies? even pedos on /co/ couldnt bring themselves up to lewd the main characters

No. 1629331

>>1629323
Every male animator is an irl sexpest and every female animator is a 2d lolicon

No. 1629348

>>1628935
What's with the concentration of retards in this thread playing dumb about obvious degeneracy?

No. 1629367

File: 1688936017574.jpg (1.06 MB, 1200x3473, 20230709_134034.jpg)

>>1629102
It's crazy that this chick works for Pixar but Angela "Vee" Vondra got blacklisted from working in the entire industry for her shota obsession. Ang actually came back to twitter recently ("comanaged") and has been really entertaining

No. 1629371

>>1629367
Probably because she generated controversy online. If not for that, her employer probably wouldn't have given a fuck. As long as she didn't sperg about her degeneracy at work or on her main account of course.

No. 1629388

>>1629367
she was dumb enough to not hide her real identity, i would have never known celesse was that pixar girl, and i honestly still have no idea how people found out.

No. 1629406

>>1629303
>>1629327
>>1629331
>>1629357
The animation industry is full of sexpests and pedos. Pixar is bad but squeaky clean family-friendly Disney is chief among them. The character designer for The Little Mermaid was chosen specifically for his ability to draw sexy teenagers and drawing and sharing porn of the heroines is a common pastime for animators that started as early as Alice in Wonderland. I listened to a former Disney animator's podcast in which he mentioned in passing how he positively identified a colleague's work by how on-model he drew Alice sucking dick. The character is 7. It's hilarious when you remember that Harlan Elison lost his job after a day for joking about creating Disney porn.

No weeb but Miyazaki is on to something with his hatred for lolicons. He's a hypocritical curmudgeon and a bad father but his open disdain for degeneracy in the industry earns my respect.

No. 1629420

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>>1629406
>No weeb but Miyazaki is on to something with his hatred for lolicons. He's a hypocritical curmudgeon and a bad father but his open disdain for degeneracy in the industry earns my respect.
I have some bad news for you, nonna

No. 1629430

>>1629406
Yeah the animation industry is full of "casual" pedos like that, and no one cares as long as you keep quiet about your degeneracy, even though everyone around you knows about it.
I wonder if Disney himself tolerated it or pretended not to know because it seems he actually hated it, judging from those two anecdotes (the guy who was fired after one day and the fabled Minnie/Mickey porn animation, I don't know if it was the same incident)
>>1629420
Didn't he also know about the term "lolicon" before it exploded in popularity?

No. 1629464

>>1629430
Nope, not even Walt was exempt.
https://www.animationmagazine.net/2011/10/ollie-johnston-even-old-men-need-a-lift/
>“Another time was, we were looking at the section of The Jungle Book where the little girl comes out and gets in the water, and the little boy’s up in the tree, and he falls into the water. She senses that he’s following her, so she drops the jug after a ways, and this continues all the way up, and the boy looks back at us [the audience] and shrugs his shoulders, and then he turns around and looks at the little girl, and she wrinkles her nose up at him. That’s one of the best drawings I ever did. And Walt turned to me and said, ‘That’s a pretty sexy little girl, Ollie.’ That was the last time we ever had a meeting with him.”
I feel like in Japan, a lot of the early lolicons went on to become animators, or were already in the industry, but gained even more foothold and gradually threw out any sense of shame.

No. 1629489

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>>1629420
We can't have shit in the industry.
>>1629430
Lolicon as a genre got its start around Tezuka's era when scrote mangaka would riff off of shoujo manga made by and for women and sexualize it.
>reminder that lolicon is synonymous with pedophile in Japanese
>reminder that possession of CP was only criminalized in 2014 and that there are still hundreds, potentially thousands of "artistic" photobooks are still in quasi-legal circulation
>The Japanese entertainment industry is openly pedophilic. You can still buy photobooks of elementary and grade school-aged girls doing cheesecake photoshoots
>up until recently most shota was created by and for scrotes. Fujos adopting it is a relatively recent thing
But it's all just lines and pixels, right? Only antis would stoop to judging others over harmless thought crimes. Lolisho has no connection whatsoever to RL pedophilia and is just a healthy tool abuse victims use to cope. They're attracted to the cuteness, not the fact that they're sexy children.

No. 1629510

>>1629367
Is this the same as your linked comment? She sounds retarded with her DID diagnosis, or she’s possessed by demons lmao
>>1629102
A lot of her work is pretty sus as the kids say. There’s something about it that makes me uneasy, even if I didn’t know about her befor this. Like >>1629164 wtf and her merboy with older man story

No. 1629512

>>1629489
>up until recently most shota was created by and for scrotes. Fujos adopting it is a relatively recent thing
the first bl was shota, nonny
>inb4 mental gymnastics abuout how it wasnt shota
it is, and the first shoujo romantic interest was inspired by a 14yo boy. Old school japanese yumefujos used to openly lust after famous european child and teen actors.

No. 1629513

>>1629464
Ntayrt but that specific scene felt weird to me as a kid, and as an adult seems obviously provocative. Not saying Walt isn't a creep, but that comment could be interpreted as a critique.

No. 1629514

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>>1629512
also, no, i am not saying they are equally bad as scrotes yada yada, its not a female vs male problem in this case, it seems like a cultural problem. Pìc rel from kentaro miura. Honestly, at this point when you consume manga you have to know you are supporting an industry thats openly pro loli/shota, you cant enjoy anime/manga guilt-free.

No. 1629519

>>1629489
I hate the term "lolisho" so much, it feels like the fans themselves picked that term copying Japanese pedos.

No. 1629523

>>1629513
>that comment could be interpreted as a critique.
I sadly doubt it. He seemed like a very direct, almost forceful guy based on anecdotes. If he sensed something he didn't like in a production with his name on it, he would've had them change it. He didn't want public outing and backlash (hence, firing the guy who was open about the porn drawings), but probably didn't take issue otherwise.

No. 1629530

>>1629514
This comic is so fucking cringe kek (even ignoring the pedo apologia)
Why are male mangaka like this

No. 1629531

>>1629514
>at this point when you consume manga you have to know you are supporting an industry thats openly pro loli/shota
Literally stop consooming any garbage written or done by scrote mangakas it's that easy. Stop reading crap done by obvious coomers that must jack off to rape and femboy porn like miura was for fucks sake. Their plots are generic most of the time and they eventually shit the bed anyway.
The number of lolisho shit goes considerably down when you support women's work.

>Inb4 clamp or whatever

They started out as a fujo circle, figures. Stick to female authors and I guarantee you most of the time you'll be fine. And I'm talking about normal female authors, not the mentally ill yaoi ones.

I do agree Japan has a serious cultural problem with pedoshit though. Reminds me of the author of my lesbian experience with loneliness finally admitting she got sexually assaulted by a stranger when she was going home back at elementary school and she kinds of shoves it under the rug like no biggie. They really seem not to give a damn over children's safety over there.

No. 1629542

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>>1624877
Found this screenshot on tumblr, it might the twitter minor who kicked off the whole thing.
As much as I hate contributing to this mess of story, here.

No. 1629543

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No. 1629544

>>1628515
They're okay to host because simply put art isn't illegal even if it is degenerate or disgusting in the countries they're hosted in.

>>1628991
Lolisho is just a convenient excuse to target artists that are more popular or better than they are in some way really. Like another anon said, they aren't really concerned with protecting people they're concerned with taking down someone they don't like.

>>1629420
Some friends of mine and I were watching Castle in the sky and it was no secret the grown mean of the pirate crew had a crush on Sheeta. Miyazaki hates otaku because they don't leave their houses to interact with actual people, but in Japanese "otaku" is a term for anyone who can be considered so obsessive with anything they don't leave their house.

>>1629489
No dog in this argument but lolicon isn't synonymous with pedophilia. lolicon is the combination of "lolita complex", there is an entirely different term for pedophilia (which will be written in katakana for pedophilia as it is pronounced specifically) or kanji. lolicon is a loan word.

No. 1629558

>>1629544
>No dog in this argument but lolicon isn't synonymous with pedophilia
Pretty sure she meant it as a term used to describe the fans of lolicon. When an adult person is attracted to girls they are referred to as "lolicon" to essentially mean pedophile. This has been a common use since the early days of the genre and referred to in manga.

No. 1629559

Friendly reminder that the storyboarders on the rugrats all collaborated on stu x angelica porn. And angelica is 3

No. 1629563

>>1629559
I think there are pedo creeps in every industry, the animation industry which focuses on children's entertainment is one of the places where the degeneracy floats to the top. The child star entertainment and music industry is another.

No. 1629568

>>1629544
Lolicon means pedophile in the same way Girl Lover means pedophile. Just like you would consider a self-proclaimed Girl Lover a pedo, you'd consider a lolicon one.
Scrotes tend to more easily stoop to insane levels of degeneracy the more sexually repressed their cultures are. Japan is a somewhat mild example compared to the likes of India or the Middle East, but it shows up a lot in their entertainment. They may boast a low sex crime rate since the vast majority go unreported due to shame and sexism, but they still have underaged bikini modeling and tickle meet and greets with chidols. Not to mention the fact that schoolgirls and rape are ubiquitous in their adult media.

No. 1629575

>>1629544
Not anymore, it's been a while since "otaku" started having the same meaning as "geek" or "nerd". Now Japanese people will call a well adjusted adult with a good job, a spouse and kids and an extraverted personality an otaku if he or she is very into specific hobbies like video games, manga, tv shows, movies, mechas, tabletop games, trains, guns, etc.

No. 1629577

File: 1688947579792.png (58.97 KB, 570x897, Backlash.PNG)

>>1629542
>>1629543

Doesn't look like anyone is buying it. Mods even deleted the post.

No. 1629579

>>1629575
Exactly, any hobbyist is referred to as an "otaku" now.

No. 1629581

>>1629542
>the Internet was a safe space for me
So you're chronically online, but surprised about death threats? Ofc it's a shitty thing and I'm not whiteknighting death threats, it's just that because they're depressingly common, it gets me that she's all "a-adults are threatening me!" as if she's never seen a "kys" comment before? Unfortunately idk how serious to take this

No. 1629585

File: 1688948093430.jpg (168.2 KB, 1322x1212, Pepper-Ann.jpg)

I don't know this show but googled it because someone mentioned it, and found this fan art that blackwashed the obviously white boy kek

No. 1629590

>>1629585
They look like Sims

No. 1629594

>>1629585
This art is so ugly and soulless kek

No. 1629598

File: 1688948938303.jpeg (50.78 KB, 660x372, 4A97DD17-6959-4B92-BDED-FEA928…)

>>1629585
Her friend is a lot darker in the show than in that image for whatever reason but Pepper Ann is a weird fucking pick to yassify

No. 1629610

>>1625484
I have realized the same when I expected to my watercolors/inks dry faster so I could keep painting. These days are just "let it dry, focus in something else and then work. If you're THAT hurry, use a hairdrier".

No. 1629612

anon who keeps making the threads, where do you find your thread pics?

No. 1629626

>>1629585
Why would they raceswap him to black when he's already Hawaiian?

No. 1629632

File: 1688950918637.png (516.38 KB, 598x913, korean.png)

Someone posted this and most of the quotes are "but think in the artist's feelings". Of course no art style is perfect but still.

No. 1629638

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>>1629632
Man built like this kek

No. 1629641

>>1629585
>>1629626
I think they mistook him for being Jamaican because they gave him a rasta theme instead

No. 1629642

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>>1629612
wikiart and google. Wikiart is really good, although its a bit hard to navigate. Here are some artists i like
https://www.wikiart.org/en/anna-ancher
https://www.wikiart.org/en/carl-spitzweg
https://www.wikiart.org/en/gerolamo-induno
sadly you can only dl the art that's public domain, so if i find an artist i like that's not in the public domain i google them. Gotta put it on the OP next thread.
>>1629632
i hate how ugly it is but its also like the female version of when a man draws a woman with gigantic unrealistic tits and a tinywaist, kek. We need to gaslight men into getting bimbo lips and chin implants.

No. 1629648

>>1629642
Nonnie thank you for introducing me to wikiart i love you

No. 1629650

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>>1629632
There’s more kek I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time

No. 1629652

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>>1629650
>>1629632
And this is why people are going around saying not to give the artist (@gugongchill) a hard time

No. 1629660

>>1629650
Where did everything go so wrong?

No. 1629691

>>1629650
This makes me wonder if SK's extremely superficial society and sameface beauty standards have messed with their perception of human features.

No. 1629693

>>1624877
Someone tried to rationalize to me about the very real medical issue of not feeling like a limb belongs, which is absolutely a real thing, my issue if the fetishism about disabled people and themself that this artist perpetuates and they make themselves seem like like a victim when they post things like "mobility devices!!… For people like me!" when it was their choice all along and they are not like other amputees. I don't know what I'd do if this fuck told a veteran they know what it's like to lose a limb. I get the whole comics about wishing the different way it could've been removed, a lot of people have those, but they draw literal fetish are about it too which doesn't sit well at all.

No. 1629694

>>1624877
>>1629693
Just to add, this user deleted their account too now. Wtf.

No. 1629734

>>1629367
"Diagnosed since 2015" okay am i tripping or confusing her with someone else because i'm pretty sure this bitch was not mentioning DID at all 2. I know she was crying about her autism tho, correct me if i'm wrong

No. 1629735

File: 1688957433565.jpeg (160.67 KB, 1108x2048, F0mo8j0WIAAimgM.jpeg)

>>1629652
>>1629660
I'm not even surprised if is because Webtoon/Lezhin/any comic company is quite harsh with their artists that they want the comic as soon as possible, ignoring the quality and the style.

No. 1629737

>>1629734
2 years ago*

No. 1629742

>>1629367 I wonder which alter was the one who drew shota.
Polyfragmented DID seems to only appear in genderspecials on Tumblr and Tiktok, or every housewife in the 80's who thought they were abused by a satanic cult, so make of that as you will

No. 1629744

>>1629650
thumb oppa

No. 1629747

>>1629632
Sorry but I'm definitely gonna use that first pic as a reaction image kek

No. 1629749

>>1629650
Arent a lot of webtoon artists teenagers

No. 1629752

>>1629367
Vee wasn't blacklisted for shota
Her boss found her shota and shared it around the office making fun of it then she made a callout post about how it was sexual harassment to do so. Then another boss ghosted her for being a psycho and she blamed it on callout retaliation.

No. 1629777

>>1629752
>Her boss found her shota and shared it around the office making fun of it then she made a callout post about how it was sexual harassment to do so
Kyle Carozza wasn't actually her boss, just a coworker who wanted to sleep with her and tried to cancel her by showing everyone her art (which he was shown by her deranged ex-fans/stalkers) when she refused. She got somewhat ghosted by the Helluva Boss people over the controversy, then claimed VivziePop was a hypocrite because she's drawn problematic shit before too, and then they full-on fired her for that.

No. 1629788

>>1629777
>>1629331
Wow tried and true.

No. 1629812

>>1629777
Idk about these claims about him wanting to fuck her but Kyle WAS her boss but then his show ended and she was working for Vivziepop. Her stalkers sent her baraag and “secret” (public) porn twitter to Kyle who sent the links to other former Magiswords crew members for some reason and presumably other industry people which resulted in her being blacklisted. Supposedly Vivzie wasn’t even going to fire her, they just didn’t have work for her and are notoriously bad at keeping their artists in the loop and use a discord server for all production communication. Vee assumed she was fired after not hearing back after completing a test for them, got angry and posted that tweet calling Vivzie a hypocrite and got fired from Helluva for THAT.

No. 1629851

>>1629693
>they
She's female

No. 1629862

>>1629777
>Kyle Carozza wasn't actually her boss, just a coworker who wanted to sleep with her and tried to cancel her by showing everyone her art (which he was shown by her deranged ex-fans/stalkers) when she refused.

Shitty if true. Males get away with drawing the most deranged shit on the downlow because bros don't go after bros, but women's sexual art is used as blackmail against them. Not saying her pedo tier art is OK, but the double standards are sickening.

No. 1629869

>>1629531
>And I'm talking about normal female authors, not the mentally ill yaoi ones.
you realize plenty of shoujo works included pedophilia, right? so many stories are about schoolgirls marrying a much older man. fujos are shit because of shota but other female authors are fine and need to be supported because loli and teens into older men are fine I guess? just say you're into that shit and that's why you defend it

No. 1629909

>>1629869
Age gaps are romanticized a lot in literature and I enjoy it too but only when the woman is 20+ and the man is a silver fox lmao. This also applies to height differences and monster men as well. However a lot of those tropes are aged down and that I would argue is a grooming technique. I remember a lot of manga I liked had the age gap trope and at the time it didn’t seem bad because the fictional man was patient and kind and waited for the woman to get older but now it creeps me out to read it.

No. 1629920

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Any artists here with social anxiety too? I immediately feel ashamed of myself when i post my best works and they barely get any likes or retweets, i feel like i'm being judged even if i don't have a big following.

No. 1629924

>>1629909
>but only when the woman is 20+ and the man is a silver fox lmao.
i will take female shotafags over you any day

No. 1629930

>>1629777
I think I remember anons talking about it back then, but I had a bit of a hard time following simply because there was not one sane person not doing something retarded in this story.

No. 1629935

Why the fuck is every discussion about fujos now? God I fucking hate them, stop bringing them up everywhere

No. 1629937

>>1629920
>Mfw i thought i wasn't lonely on this and someone replied to me but it's just a bunch of anons infighting about female-centric media again like it matters
Great thread for artists you got there

No. 1629941

>>1629937
you need to work on your patience and attention seeking to be honest, its only been like 30 minutes since you posted

No. 1629948

>>1629941
It's not attention seeking, i just need to feel validated by others online by them liking my posts, when they don't like my posts i feel like i'm being judged and my art sucks, not that hard to understand.

No. 1629952

>>1629935
The current discussions are about anxiety, webtoon artists intentionally drawing like shit to escape contracts and some shit about pepper ann. Maybe you should turn your smartphone off to go exorcise the fujoshi from your head instead of sperging about them and the evil gays in every art thread.

No. 1629954

>>1629948
thats called attention seeking

No. 1629957

>>1629954
No it's not and you are ignoring my explanation but whatever makes your ant sized brain sleep better at night.(ok newfag)

No. 1629973

>>1629957
>doesnt sage
>denial BPDchan
NTA but minors aren't allowed to post here, work on your patience and not everyone is supposed to care about every art post out there. The whole world isn't going to collapse because you haven't gotten enough likes nonnie

No. 1629986

>>1629973
>>1629957
NTA but that really isn't attention seeking. Attention seeking would be something like the Anon admitting that she actively RTs posts multiple times or makes tweets about not getting enough likes and retweets on her art in a bid to get more attention to her and her art but that wasn't the case. Anon was just venting about not getting attention and feeling judged on the quality of her works, rather than actively preforming attention seeking behavior. So again, she wasn't actively attention seeking. She does need to work on patience and not desiring internet validation though I definitely get where that desire comes from. To that, you really just need to stop caring about likes and retweets, and depending on the platform you could download one of those extensions that completely hides those metrics if it's really bad.
>doesnt sage
You don't need to sage on non-cow boards iirc.

No. 1629992

>>1629948
you're self aware of that, now go work on changing it instead of wallowing in self pity. i suggest you stop posting your art online for your wellbeing.

No. 1629994

>>1629948
you can post your art here >>>/m/187240 and anons can tell you if its suck or if its just the Algorithm not being kind to you. Also, remember that most people have limited tw accounts now, so its harder for people to see and liek your art.

No. 1629996

>>1629920
>>1629937
with all do respect, it is not everyone else's responsibility to coddle you. if you truly believe in the quality of your work, you don't need other people's confirmation. all the external validation in the world will never fix you crippling self esteem. I don't wanna infight. Please take the time to love your own art.

No. 1630028

>>1629996
^ this.learn to have a backbone nonnie.if your acting like this on a anonymous board it's no wonder you get no traction

No. 1630052

>>1629920
protip: don't ask for advice on this site, like ever, really

No. 1630109

>>1629777
>>1629812
>stalkers
Biased

No. 1630132

>>1629948
get a therapist instead of trying to get sympathy on fucking lolcow of all places.

or even better: get a backbone. people on social media don't care if it's your "best work", if it's not interesting to them then they just scroll past it. get a backbone and practice more because a good artist who's confident in their own skills is satisfied by their own creation and isn't dependent on twitter likes.

No. 1630143

>>1629948
maybe your art does suck. have you considered that possibility?

No. 1630268

>>1630245
First of all seethe more.

Second of all, this is an artist SALT thread, not a struggle thread. Besides, your struggle isn't even a struggle it's simply you having no patience for social media which is a you problem. Of course if you bring your little "I WANT MUH INTERNET VALIDASHUN!" woes people will laugh at you because only the most obnoxious and insecure artists pull that sort of shit.

Third of all, seethe more.

No. 1630270

>>1630269
trying to hide your little autistic sperg?

No. 1630271

>>1629986
You could just use adblock.

No. 1630278

>>1629986
THANK YOU, finally someone that heard me and didn't twist my words, i just wanted to find someone who felt the same.

>>1630268
>>1630270
>"FIRST OF ALL SEETHE MORE"
I can feel your skull in flames with anger from here KEK

No. 1630283

>>1630268
You're not wrong but this reply made me die of cringe nonnie.

No. 1630286

Needed three wholeass posts to make an autistic sperg, then try to backpedal to try to seem normal, then revert back to "KEK you're the one who's angry! kek kys!!"

Online artists truly are just a different kind of zoo animal.

No. 1630289

>>1630278
>>1630272
Shut up you can't even draw

No. 1630290

>>1630278

trying to sound all high and mighty when she just admitted to the whole board that she cries and vomits and shits herself when her sparkledog drawing doesn't get 10 likes on twitter

No. 1630292

>>1630286
>Delete my post because i forgot to reply to a kind nonny that understood me
>YOU NEEDED THREE POSTS TO MAKE AN AUTISTIC SPERG OR SOMETHING even though i was just fixing my post
>Samefags two times acting like different people to make fun of me

You need psychiatric help

No. 1630297

>>1630292
>Samefags two times acting like different people to make fun of me
>Because if two people type slightly similarly on an anonymous board then they must be the same person

It must be why you keep coming back here trying to come out on top for cringy "gotchas" but in the end only embarrass yourself further.

No. 1630298

>>1630271
I didn't know you could hide likes with adblock, i think i'll do that.

>>1630297
Sure jan

No. 1630299

>>1629920
I think you just really need to stop posting art for a while and, on the meantime learn to apreciatte your art for what it means to YOU anon, that way you won't always relay on external validation. You can also watch some art tutorials and look at your art critically and make a list of what to work on.
Good luck anon!

No. 1630301

>>1630278
There are some Chrome extensions that can hide stuff like social media likes other than Adblock, just get one of those. I don't know about other browsers though.

No. 1630304

>>1629920
>>1629948
I feel the same nonny. I only have a couple thousand followers but my posts only gain 10% or less likes. I ask my friends for advice and they tell me I'm improving, so I'm coping by saying it's an algorithm thing. I would also saw pyw in the art critique thread for anonymous opinions, but I'm sure your work isn't bad. Social media is a numbers game, and sometimes the site likes you, and sometimes it doesn't. Does popularity matter more to you, or does your skill as an artist matter more?

No. 1630308

i know this topic has been talked about before but it never fails to piss me off. why do artists (primarily digital) love to be secretive about their brushes and techniques? was browsing my tl some other day and saw a tweet where an artist was bragging that they finally managed to find out how to render and texture clothing in a way similar to leyendecker which is quite impressive, but the comments was basically just them bragging that they "found out the secret" and refusing to share their discovery even though many people were asking them about it. i can never understand why online artists are so cagey with brushes and techniques like that.

No. 1630309

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>>1630301
I use Control Panel for Twitter 3.11.0, it's amazing. I can remove everything besides comments.

No. 1630313

>>1630299
You understood completely what i meant, i rely too much on external validation and honestly, anons here weren't wrong when they said i have to grow a backbone kek, i'll take a break from posting.

>>1630304
Blaming the algorithm isn't a cope because sometimes it's the main reason your posts flop nonny. I'd say skill matters more to me, but i won't lie, i care a lot about other liking my art too out of insecurity.

>>1630309
This extension is all that i wanted thanks for sharing, i'll look for it online.

No. 1630318

>>1630313
Algorithm is an easy cope but in all honesty it does interfere in your post visibility. I've tested the tag thing on my account before and indeed when I added one or no tags my post managed to get decent visibility even if it was a niche content, but if I added more than three tags or a link it instantly tanked even if it was a popular series fanart.

No. 1630327

>>1630313
>i care a lot about other liking my art too out of insecurity
Sadly I don't think there's anything that will change other than trying to find what's your niche and what people like. I advise against strictly drawing what appeases others, but only do it if you really want to grow your account. You can quickly lose your passion to draw if you only draw for attention.
>>1630318
This. I would add tags and my post would only get 1 to 3 likes within the first 10 minutes of upload. Twitter algorithm leak said your post visibility is influenced in order by likes > replies > YOUR reply to a comment > retweets. I don't know if this has changed again though because the leak was moths old.

No. 1630328

>>1630318
Make sure to write something with the series name in the post, it works for me.

No. 1630337

>>1630308
Because a lot of dumb people/younger artists still think that brushes/technique make their art “better” rather than actual draftsmanship and if they give away their secrets they’ll have nothing left like everyone posting other peoples’ art drawn with incredibly generic brushes to online digital art spaces asking “what brush is this” as if downloading it will instantly make them pop out pieces with lineweight/depth etc

No. 1630340

>>1630338
no
>>1630327
>Twitter algorithm leak said your post visibility is influenced in order by likes > replies > YOUR reply to a comment > retweets. I don't know if this has changed again though because the leak was moths old.
anything similar out there for instagram? are they still prioritizing reels?

No. 1630343

>>1630340
>anything similar out there for instagram? are they still prioritizing reels?

unfortunately it seems like it, yeah. i've stopped using instagram because of that and because of the posting frequecy that its algorithm prefers.

No. 1630350

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Nonnas, how do I repel gendies from my accounts without outright telling them I think they're severely mental ill. I'm sick of humouring them and they seem to come in droves because of my art (it's just stupid weeb gore shit)

No. 1630352

>>1630350
Engage with anti-trans content and accounts and they will get the idea

No. 1630353

>>1630350
it's not really possible to expel them entirely without doing something that will outright offend them like putting youre a terf in your bio or something.
id say like… make yourself as normie appealing as possible in your bio or the way you type, basically don't appeal to them in any way. don't have any flags in your bio or pronouns, nothing they can latch onto. but yes if you're making weeb gore art it inevitable that these types will flock to it

No. 1630366

>>1630268
>>1630270
care to repost the sperging?

No. 1630367

>>1630350
It's fine if you want to cut out probably the biggest cash cow community, but okay.

No. 1630374

>they finally managed to find out how to render and texture clothing in a way similar to leyendecker which is quite impressive
thats not impressive, there are thousands of videos about it. There was even an artist selling brushpacks so all you really have to do is study a few of his pieces. Leyendecker is also one of the most digital friendly trad artists there is.

No. 1630375

>>1630367
are they really? i refuse to believe a bunch of 15yos and commie larping manchildren are a ''cash cow''. If you want real cash cows go the coomer route.

No. 1630379

>>1630375
Honestly both work. Depends on what audience you want. In my opinion, as shitty as it is, I would rather have gendies spending their money on me than coomers because half the time it's moids. But gendies also run rampant in other spaces as well as like furry, anime, etc. They seem like they're everywhere at this point so it's unavoidable. I think the vtubing community is the only one that doesn't have a prevalent trans population but still isn't filled with a bunch of men.

No. 1630382

>>1630367 if they actually had money I'd consider humouring them, but they're all childern or lazy grifters

>>1630353 >>1630352 Thank you nonas! I'll attempt to go the soulless normie route and see if that impacts the rate in which they're interacting

No. 1630389

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Anons, do you want to make money off drawing, or do you prefer it as a hobby? And for those who both draw as a hobby and have a full-time job or are students of something unrelated to art, how do you manage the time? Personally, I draw niche stuff that only interests me, so I doubt anyone would want to pay for it, and doing personalized commissions for OCs is such a bore that I only take them when I need the money.

No. 1630393

>>1630382
this is slightly tangential and a bit out there but alternatively, foreign artists (for instance japanese artists) seem to get more of a pass for not being clued in on gendie shit. im assuming you've already established your presence as a native english speaking artist but yeah, ive defo seen foreign artists get away with stuff by claiming that it's not their culture (also gendies are less likely to criticise you if they believe you're a minority or are otherwise oppressed kek)

No. 1630394

>>1630375
If you really think the community is only 15-year olds, I hope you don't make any money. You're not going to be very successful.

No. 1630395

>>1630394
literally who over 17yo has pronouns in bio, gendie shit is zoomer's goth phase.

No. 1630396

>>1630382
>lazy grifters
>people who pay 100s for commissions
>where'd they get their money?
>not bitbros
Okay, anon. You're clearly baiting here.

No. 1630400

>>1630389
Basically go to work, come home and fuck around for a while, sketch and do art, stay awake until 6hrs before having to wake up for real work, go work, come home, cry about making dinner because burnout, eventually eat, do work until 5hrs before I have other work..

Uh, yeah. It's fun. Commissioners don't have a life, very few make a living off of what they due to oversaturation.

No. 1630418

>>1630389
I want to work on a game or TV show one day. I'm in a place where I'm able to live off commissions, but I'm hoping to get an internship soon.
>>1630395
ntayrt but most everyone who's western that I follow has pronouns in their bio, even professionals in the art workfield

No. 1630437

>>1630418
This, every single millennial (and a few boomer) working professional I know has pronouns in bio. It’s expected now.

No. 1630491

>>1629924
Wtf lmao

No. 1630494

>>1629986
You say we don’t need to sage but it’s in the rules for this thread and I’ve been warned before about not using it

No. 1630574

>>1630418
Industry anon here, I'd say go chase your dream of working on a game and tvshow. Although don't get your hopes up and turn yourself into a wage slave. You should have a few passion projects in the back burner. Good luck with the internship nonna.

No. 1630828

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>>1629650
>>1629652
Apparently the artist was quite young and remade the comic from zero. I'm all for webcomic artists for going ahead and make their comic, but after they learned one thing or two about anatomy/perpective/etc.

No. 1630829

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>>1630828
From the same artist.

No. 1630834

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Just saw someone say that Kooleen's response to this is going to "make or break" her career but it can't possibly be that deep. She's probably not going to say anything and everyone will have forgotten by tomorrow. I haven't even seen any heavy accusations come from this and she already got into a similar situation over her video saying she doesn't draw ugly people and that no beginner should and nothing came from that iirc. It's good that people notice bad advice at least

No. 1630853

>>1630834
praying for her downfall tbh i hate her stupid annoying voice and shitty art

No. 1630889

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>>1630853
Understandable. Her smexy juicy lips mommy daddy shtick is so fucking annoying. Even if her advice was good it would still be impossible to listen to. And her art looks so lifeless. This kind of drawing where you can clearly tell which parts were referenced always ends up looking so bad

No. 1630891

>>1630350
just be basic and boring, post art and be appreciative when somebody writes a nice comment or something. don't put pronouns in your bio, don't engage with posts or comments that have rainbow flag virtue signal content

No. 1630895

>>1630889
i know they're meant to be veins but 9 times out of 10 when artists draw guys with bulging veins like that it always looks more like some alien growing under his skin than veins

No. 1630896

>>1630834
It's a bad tutorial but there's tons of them online so making a callout is kind of cow-ish. Most artists just teach their own style and it's not like people fail to understand that.

No. 1630936

>>1630834
thsi girl's tutorials are so incredbly annoying and bad, it makes me sad that these crappy channels thrive over the good channels.

No. 1630990

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There's this person who want me to draw 10 drawings of their oc but for some reason they keep insisting that I open up a binance account because their bank account is having trouble with PayPal (the only form of payment I accept)
I told them I accept paypal only and they keep pressuring me to open up a behance account and that they will pay me upfront and that they are legit.
Am I an asshole for thinking this could be scammish or something?

No. 1631000

>>1630990
I would check for red flags and look more into binance but not having paypal isn’t that weird, it’s not fully available in some countries and it doesn’t have the best rep with some people, some artists/creators I follow have had their paypal accounts locked and lost tons of money because of a sudden income increase etc.

No. 1631010

>>1631000
Thanks for you answer. They live in the us and never said that PayPal isn't available, they say their bank account is not supporting paypal services. This raised a major red flag for me since I live in a shithole country yet it supports paypal 100%

No. 1631017

>>1631010
It's not necessarily a red flag. It could be that they supported a commissioner as well, backcharged due to never getting product, and thus their bank, or their account specifically, will no longer deal with transactions through the seller. This happens with patreons sometimes too. It marks your card for some reason. They would have to call to have it fixed if it isn't through Paypal specifically and it's their bank that's the issue.

No. 1631026

>>1631017
I had no idea, thanks nonny

No. 1631043

>>1630350
>stupid weeb gore shit
It's inevitable that the mentally ill and the retarded will be drawn to that, nona. Best you can do is periodically remove the genderspecial followers you don't want to interact with, probably.

No. 1631094

>>1631010
I'm not from the US, but my bank/card doesn't accept Paypal either despite it being avaible over here. I have never heard about binance though, have you asked them if they can pay you thru other more popular sites (like kofi)? I think if it isn't a scam they shouldn't have problems to pay thru other means as long Paypal isn't involved.

No. 1631159

>>1631094
>>1630990

Is this about Binance or Behance? Binance is a crypto service and Behance is basically Adobe's version of ArtStation.

No. 1631171

>>1630990
They're trying to scam you nona.

No. 1631173

>>1630853
likewise. she’s so grating

No. 1631175

>>1631094
The refused to pay with any other service.

>>1631159
Binance, the crypto stuff.

>>1631171
Im glad I'm not the only one who thought that kek

No. 1631197

Nonnas who don't post your art anywhere and only do it for yourselves, what do you do with the drawings once you're done? I stopped posting my art on social media last year and since then I just finish the drawing and leave it in a folder on my computer. Sometimes I go take a look through my work, but since it's my own work I don't really feel anything special towards it and aside from watching how I've progressed I don't find much value in them. What does it mean to do art only for yourself?

No. 1631206

>>1631197
to get off to it

No. 1631212

>>1631197
I just share it with 1 art friend and occasionally other people irl who ask. It's not posted anywhere. Everytime I consider posting I reconsider due to Twitter fag mental illness. It probably wouldnt get noticed and if it did it's going to be moids or trannys for some of it.

No. 1631213

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>>1631197
Keep it in a box, folder/s, purge the really bad and uninteresting shit, keep composition notebooks of lesser drawings, etc. For what purpose? I don't know.
>>1631206
Sometimes this

No. 1631220

>>1631206
Kek, you win.

No. 1631240

Any ex-mutual/friend gendies that you know of that you're waiting on/witnessed their downfall?

No. 1631245

>>1631240
When i was 15 on Tumblr I had a mutual that was your textbook troon gendie with 493849 mental disorders and a list of pronouns and the best part: they were fictionkin and firmly believed they were a fictional character from a videogame in their past like even though they are older than said video game's release date.

I got to watch their downfall when they got into some discourse with a terf of the same fandom and both basically just did a downfall together. It was amusing. I still hate otherkin and all other kinnie types to this day because of that freak.

No. 1631251

>>1631240
God yes this fat fakeboi I met years ago who live streamed with wigs and egirl type make up while drawing. She thought she was going to be one of the top streamers. Except she stagnated heavily after losing her supportive friends that paid for her subs cause she treated people like shit. Flip flopped from one job to the next aftwards. Deleted all her content involving her face so she could shoot up testosterone for a ftm reveal. She's mostly gone dark and I wish she would've kept going with the lunacy. Her art never got better because she refuses to do foundation type excersizes and keeps drawing in a western anime style.

No. 1631254

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>>1631197
I am glad i am not the only one. I just finish it, show it to an art friend and then shelve it. My friend keeps telling me i should post it online, but i seriously doubt anyone cares about what i like. I mostly draw cute boys in military uniforms, with guns, tanks, aircrafts, monster boys, gijinkas etc. I checked the current state of yume twitter and /cbsg/ on /ic/ and i dont think i fit in with the other cute boy artists, they seem to be mostly into bishies/edgy characters like that richard ramirez spiderman guy or old men, which i find all disgusting(sorry). Not a tranny but sometimes i think i was born with a moid mind, i have been told if i drew the same thing i do but with cute girls i would be super popular. I would really love to share my stuff but i would rather not get cancelled over drawing the wrong shit online, lol.

No. 1631255

>>1629920
I know it sounds like a humblebrag but I've had the opposite problem, my stuff instantly got popular and it was a little overwhelming and anxiety inducing to get that kind of attention at first. I stopped posting for a while because of it. I eventually came to enjoy it for what it is, though.

No. 1631256

>>1631254
Your stuff sounds awesome anon, I want to see it. There is definitely an audience for your work.

No. 1631257

>>1631255
Man the same thing happened to me. Call me dumb or humblebragger but I had two accounts, one main and one for art only, both with well over 2k followers on a pretty niche fandom. Whenever I'd post art, be it a doodle or a full art piece, people would come in hordes. I'd routinely break over 3k retweets on my posts, I've had my art shared around by voice actors even.

It was fucking terrifying though because truly whatever I said or did, a fuckton of people would see it. I started to grow more and more anxious that I'd eventually say or draw something that would anger someone because I knew it could make its rounds and I feared I'd get dogpiled by the fandom and we all know how fandoms can get when they decide they don't like someone. In the end, I gave up on those two accounts. I made a third account for some other even more niche fandom, that account has 100 followers or so, and I feel much more at ease. Sure, I don't have all the likes and RT's anymore but that did wonders to my mental health.

No. 1631264

>>1631197
Same. I use to post art online but I just got sick of social media and it's bullshit. I just save it on my computer and never look at again. I never finish anything I just do sketches. It feels good to just draw what I like and not worry about following trends or drawing popular characters I don't even care about.

No. 1631273

>>1631254
you could make a private twitter or tumblr and post your work there, and link it to anyone who might be interested?
i agree w >>1631256 that based on your description id personally love to see your work and i think theres an audience for it too

No. 1631283

>>1631254
I really want to see your work, nona!

No. 1631309

>>1631254
military boys are super trendy right now because of the ghost babygirl meme a lot of people hqave been awakened to the appeal of men in uniform/with guns it is our time nona! post it!!

No. 1631316

>>1631255
This, I started posting art under an alt to try and get used to sharing my work publicly without feeling too invested, but it got a ton of attention I wasn’t expecting and made my perfectionism worse lol

No. 1631320

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>>1631256
>>1631273
>>1631283
thanks, nonnies. I think my biggest fear is that i draw male characters too moe and it might get confused with shota. All of my favourite artists draw moe, so i developed a very moe artsyle, like pic rel but with male characters. I dont think many women are into moe artstyles, that plus the fact i have male history autism might make it pretty repelling for anyone but me.
>>1631309
I dont like tacticool stuff, sorry. I prefeer older, classier uniforms. I mostly draw anime boys in Civil War uniforms.

No. 1631322

I'm jelly of beckymastery. I love how she draws both femdom and gay shit, recently she made a pic of a hot guy whose head blows up. I could technically do that, but I overthink about getting cancelled and shit.

No. 1631324

>>1631320
I personally would very much enjoy your art I think. I love boys in uniforms but most artists only draw those super manly looking guys and they're hot and all but part of me wants to see more cutesy boys rocking some uniform and war gear too.

No. 1631331

>>1631240
I became friends with a gendie a long time ago and witnessed a lot of autism in the process. She's currently infamous in her communities because she's a creep (proship and all that jazz) who loves flaunting her fetishes for everyone unfortunate enough to share the same fandoms as her. She's already hated but I wonder if she will ever get into some real deep shit. Time will tell I guess.

No. 1631345

>>1631240

A girl I became friends with in middleschool. We were really close because of our common interest in drawing and anime but around highschool she dropped out and I moved out of the state but we kept contact online. In school I already saw that she was kind of cow-ish but online…that's when I found out that online she was one hell of a freak, she'd flaunt the fact that she was addicted to hentai and shotacon, she'd flaunt her self-harming tendencies and draw her selfsona OC with gigantic breasts and wrist cut scars and basically only talk about edgy shit and porn and fetishes. I also saw her getting into some proship drama on her tumblr but I didn't really care to read more on it. I do remember though that IRL she was already kind of a cow because she'd constantly get into boy drama with other otaku/geek girls as well as cosplay drama. As far as I remember on top of being a school dropout she never did college either and she dreamed of being a concept artist or a manga artist but with how abhorrent her art was and how she basically never left her online circle of fetish-driven freaks and also barely ever did commissions I highly doubt she'll get anywhere. She also didn't want to get any type of regular job and basically lived off her mother and boyfriend's money.

No. 1631350

>>1631320
I'd love to see your art nonna

No. 1631397

>>1631345
Is there honestly such thing as a lolishotacon being a normal, well-adjusted person or is it a hentai thing in general? I know the stereotype is that antis are mentally ill teenagers but it feels like pro and antis are two sides of the same terminally online coin.

No. 1631405

>>1631397
If there's any lolishotacon that's able to pass as a normal person I've yet to see it. Most of the lolishotacon I know tend to be failed disgusting moids, both male and female, with not a shred of normalcy in their lives as well as them being terminally online.

No. 1631408

>>1631397

They're all the same in the end. Mentally ill, terminally online and entirely detached from reality. Because an actual well-adjusted person knows that freaking out over fictional ships is bullshit, and that hentai and etc can be enjoyed casually if you have other joys in life. The people who obsess over hentai/shotalolicon and those crazy antis all come from the same breed of delusional teenagers/young adults who no longer know how a real and normal human should function outside of the internet.

No. 1631410

>>1631397
that celesse/milkscum girl seems to work for pixar and there was another example of a girl with a phd.

No. 1631415

>>1631408
Alot of people forget about how gross the bara brained 13 year olds and the 20+ yo men who pander to them industrial complex is. Alot of those greasy perverted artists hang out with those kids in discord servers talking about that shit like it's normal. They call their borderline porn r-15 as if that changes the fact you can see the outline of the cock it the tiny cloth they added for the "sfw" version of their patron alts in an attempt to coax a audience of minors in.

No. 1631422

>>1631415
Nta but I don't think you can convince me that baras are worse than the lolishotacon weirdos. At the very least they're drawing adults

No. 1631436

>>1631422
Definitely lolishotas are worse and have demonstrably made the earth a worse place; Baralords just give me the creeps, I just know there's a drama extravaganza just waiting to blow up in there.

No. 1631437

>>1631415
honestly i'd rather deal with a greasy bara artist than with a lolishota moid. at least the greasy bara artist gets off porn of adult characters and their sin is just being huge perverts. i haven't met a single lolishota addict that wasn't a creepy borderline non-acting pedophile who fantasized jerking it to little cartoon kids, and that's when they don't try making moves on actual children online.

No. 1631457

>>1631397
I am of the belief that witch hunting people to the extreme pushes them to be even more maladjusted or create circlejerks where they get even worse in the head which is how you end up with pawoo or baraag. For example, I'm convinced the recent rise of lolishos in the west is directly related with the rise of antis, and people trying to be contrarian or becoming interested in taboo shit to be edgy or "based". I just didn't find as many open degenerates in the 2000s when everyone minded their business.

Like I wonder where homunculus will end up going, if it's going to be a case of that Nook brothers artist and become even more degenerate.

Anyway I just have this idea because I ended up in a discord server once that lumped all of the people in a fandom that were cussed out of other servers for various offenses like pissing off troons, saying the word "trap", "sexualizing minors" (as in aged up characters with looks like Inuyasha or Asuka, not extremely young) and whatever else. Lolicons ended up taking over and dragged many of the people who never had interest in it into the degeneracy, idk if to fit in or what. I quit the server because they ended up spamming loli porn. There were females in there, kicked out of regular servers for the previos zoomer crimes, getting groomed into it as well.

No. 1631462

>>1631457
Yeah they honestly just clamp down on their beliefs even harder if they're called out. Like you said they end up moving to these closed off circles where they meet people who will never challenge them so they just get more and more deranged. I do think it's funny how they seem to think "normies" wouldn't care about their derangement and it's just all these "anti puritan freaks" who are like that lol. The whole thing is just hyper online they have no grasp on what's normal

No. 1631469

>>1631462
It's a complicated thing, it actually reminds me of the furry community which, by current internet standards, is a little weird but wholesome and unproblematic (see kooleen constantly mentioning them) when they basically do the same thing as lolishos with fetishizing in fiction an innocent being that can't consent and at the same time generating/overlaping with actual dog fuckers (I've seen realistic borderline zoophilic furry art, not just cartoon sparkledogs). I don't think their acceptance in the western world has helped very much either.

No. 1631473

>>1631457

I see it the same way. I feel like the western online community's preaching for moral purity and correctedness has reached a point where their actions are literally worsening the very problem they're facing. Because nowadays you can be witch hunted on social media for almost anything. If you draw a nose slightly wrong, if you pick a skin color that's just a few tones off, if you draw certain themes, if you don't draw certain themes, if you have a fetish, if you ship the "wrong ship" and so on.

At least in the late 00's and early 10's, people more or less kept to themselves on the internet. Freaks were freaks in their own separate forums/websites and they didn't bleed into other spaces, but nowadays they're everywhere because they keep getting chased out of their shithole and proceed to become even more degenerate as a form of defiance or to find other likeminded users to surround themselves with. The fact that nowadays porn other horny shit have been normalized as funny haha cringy jokes only made the problem worse in my eyes. Porn is a joke which is the perfect backdrop those lolishos need to be disgusting on social media freely.

No. 1631529

>>1631469
>wholesome and unproblematic
What the hell are you talking about

No. 1631539

>>1630990
Not having access to Paypal is a thing but wanting to use binance as an alternative means it's a scam for sure, they don't have real world money. They can do an upfront 50% direct deposit or western union if they live in a place with no banks (unlikely lol).

No. 1631541

>>1631175
>Crypto
>Refused to pay with any other service
Yeah they're trying to scam you then, sorry nona.

No. 1631555

>>1629104
Is her name Julia Doh?

No. 1631562

>>1631469
>furry community which, by current internet standards, is a little weird but wholesome and unproblematic
I always knew this thread had resident furries but at least it's confirmed now since they try to do this retarded whataboutism all the time, i.e. "well weebs are all pedos so stop shaming us". Furries aren't hated just because they're "weird" or "cringe", they're hated because their community is disproportionately filled with mentally ill sex pests, child and animal abuse, drug and alcohol issues and other degeneracy. At least anime communities have a sizable normie audience and actual substance attracting people to the point it entered the mainstream consciousness for good, furries are just a niche group of people doing drugs, grooming 12-year olds and RPing diaper fetish porn. Artists taking commissions don't have that "won't do: NSFW or furries" disclaimer for nothing.

No. 1631570

>>1631562
duuh, a lot of artists draw furry, it pays bills more than anything else. For 10+ years ive been a digital artist no furry ever asked me to draw anything zoo, pedo, fecal or even gore so there's still lot of normal people in the community.

No. 1631573

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>>1631529
If you follow art channels or other internet personalities they will make furry jokes and feature them heavily like it's nbd just another little silly community. I'm not saying they are. I'm saying that's what the current western internet narrative try to paint them as, which is ironic considering how they witch hunt other shit.

No. 1631591

>>1631245
I think I have the same cow as you, except this otherkin cow isn't an artist. The only instance I can recall of this video game kinnie had a rundown with a fandom artist so bad she posted a google doc on it. I feel bad for the fandom artist though.

No. 1631663

>>1631570
This. I used to do furry comms and aside from 1 or 2 people they were probably the best clients I’ve had. I still keep in touch with a few who are just very normal people that watched Balto or The Secret of NIMH too many times as a kid. There are plenty of gross degens in the community but it’s such a massive fandom that it’s easier to find a niche than it is in a lot of others and avoid them simply by being up front about the content you won’t draw or post. I did a few NSFW commissions early on, hated it and took that kind of art off my commission menu and no one ever bothered me about it again. The instant I started looking outside of furry for comms is when I started getting sex pests trying to get porn out of me despite my terms and conditions.

No. 1631763

>>1631529
I think of huge youtube channels like YourMovieSucks being an open furry and Cynical Reviews having a dog fursona. They are able to appeal to normies, whereas an open lolisho would disgust people (as it should) Being a furry or liking anthro characters isn't automatically linked to sex degeneracy anymore. People offline will still see it as incredibly weird, but they also still see any nerd subculture the same way.

No. 1631767


No. 1631769

>>1631763
samefag to add that Lackadaisy is furry and it was very well received. Viziepop is making cartoons with sparkledog tier character designs and is very popular

No. 1631781

>>1631763
>yourmoviesuck
you used the worst example, he's pro bestiality and an absolute degenerate with a fursona porn account

No. 1631784

>>1631781
Furry (zoophile) fandom is 10x more degenerate than lolisho (pedo) fandom but they have better PR, clearly.

No. 1631786

>>1631781
also pyrocynical, another popular youtuber who's a furry, was found to be into scat/farts/feederism and was roleplaying with minors about it. That two of the biggest normie furry youtubers turned out to be degens should tell you something about furries. Also the biggest furry youtuber turned out to be a zoosadist, never forget. Also furries are the most openly tranny friendly community, which should tell you something about their levels of degeneracy.

No. 1631792

>>1631769
Lackadaisy has a furry porn patreon

No. 1631794

>>1631769
The author of Lackadaisy literally wrote a whole ass manifesto about how much she hates the furry community and considers them degenerates and doesn't want her work to be branded as "furry". There's a big difference between anthro art/characters and furries, I wouldn't consider someone like Vivziepop a furry at all since she's just a generic non-human artist.

>>1631763
How the fuck does one compare furry avatars to lolishota? Obviously lolishota is a gigantic red flag but they rarely even try to claim otherwise besides some "they're just drawings" cope because anyone who's not retarded can see them for what they are, but furries try to sweep all the disgusting fetishes and child abuse in their community under the rug and point the finger at everyone else. Sympathizing with furries becoming a bannable offense when.

No. 1631795

>>1631786
Reminds me of how the creator of bad dragon practices irl bestiality and writes guides for it but it's still the most popular furry sextoy brand

No. 1631796

>>1631792
That's VGCats, not Lackadaisy.

No. 1631801

>>1631763
Nah it's 100% linked to sex degeneracy and also pedo culture since it's adults dressing up as characters coming from media for little kids. Some people are just more polite about it because they're intimidated since degen nerd queer shit has become more normalised - or they are just clueless and think it's more like a mascot thing but they can provably still sense something is off.

No. 1631803

Every furry convention has some sort of orgy/pizza bukkake/diaper story there is no way you're convincing me these "people" are more normal than lolicons.

No. 1631806

>>1631529
There has been this huge push to make furries seem as harmless as possible despite being huge degens because they shell out a lot of money on comms. I first started seeing this narrative on tumblr and overtime it has seeped to other places online.
Gone are the days where furries were known SA and now they’re just quirky guys who are dedicated to their craft.

No. 1631807

the furry fandom is just as disgusting as any other retarded degen sinkhole. they're just marginally better at trying to make themselves seem "wholesome" and "innocent" but you don't need to go in too deep to see how they're all decrepit sex pests. i've never come across a single furry convention story that didn't involve congoers essentially doing sex and fetish acts on public or at least one story about an orgy or threesome but it's always being sold as "hehe hoho funni rawr we're just a little quirky!"

furries are disgusting.

No. 1631809

>>1631784
Furries love to spread the legend of the guy who could afford to commission a million fox falco macro pics because he's a rich brain surgeon but every so often he replies to a tweet about him "actually I'm just a salaryman but I live with my mom so I have no expenses"

No. 1631810

All this talk about furries and lolishotas as well as >>1631473 reminded me of one detail I hate the most about the current online art scene (and online social media scene in general).

I hate how porn and NSFW content has been normalized and is seen more as a joke or meme nowadays. Don't get me wrong I'm not a prude by any means but I literally can't scroll down my timeline without coming across at least one badly drawn pair of asscheeks or boobs attached to the current popular anime girlie and some quirky or meme-y caption alongside it and I don't even follow that many NSFW artists. And I hate even more how most of that NSFW "meme" art isn't tagged appropriately and god forbid you ask the artist to tag it because they'll claim you're some sexless nun who folds at the sight of an exposed ankle when all you want is to not see a bare fucking drawn cock untagged on the timeline. I've unfollowed so many artists and even mutuals I liked because they'd just go down the same "hehe porn funny!" hole and gunk up the timeline with untagged NSFW shit.

No. 1631821

>>1631807
There is also a huge push within the community to make furry conventions 18+ only because they are incapable of acting normal in a group setting/around children

No. 1631823

>>1631792
Kek nonna you gave me a heart attack.

I'm the one who originally brought up the double standard because I used to have a furry friend (gay moid). We met online as teenagers when we both were not part of any fandom and he ended up getting into the furry community. At first he told me it was non-sexual and since as a child I also was obsessed with anthro (movies, neopets, sparkledogs, Lackadaisy itself), I believed him.

Eventually he met other furries and it became very sexual, which I tolerated because it's just fiction I thought (plus a huge pothead from the influence of his furry friends which made it difficult to keep talking to him so to the anon who mentioned drug use, yeah). I became an anime artist, since I think what attracted me to Neopets comic style to begin with were those simplified dot nose, big eyes proportions.

Well, he told me anime style is kinda pedophilic (to me, his friend, an anime artist) because all the girls look like they're in school. I sat there thinking… wait. You are sexually attracted to bear and goat faces. You draw animal heads on human bodies with their penis out and are implying I'm into children because of my artstyle choice. Keekk.

I cut him off ever since but it changed my view on furries entirely. It's easy not to know about the extent of their degeneracy if you don't look into it btw, I had no idea how prevalent real predators and orgy messes were in there until I read up lc sites.

No. 1631836

>>1631809
Yikes women are too kind

No. 1631844

>>1631821
It's fucking stupid because while making furry conventions strictly +18 would fix the issue of furries being incapable of behaving normally near children or teenagers in those real life spaces you have part of the fandom screaming "CENSORSHIP!" and that "young furry fans should be welcome!" and "don't make furry into a taboo!" and basically opening the gates for perverts who are into cub shit and who think it's okay to wear diapers or make sexual innuendos in a room with minors.

Hard to not turn it into a taboo when all furfags seem to think about is sex and drugs even in public spaces.

No. 1631854

>furries are harmless
>meawhile the first ever fursuiter(its a man)
i say this as someone who has a morbid curiosity towards furry culture and knows way too much about it despite not being one, but they are totally degens and it started as a fetish 100%

No. 1631863

Anons what’s an artist whose art you love/loved but the personality put you off? I have a few, segabunny? (Sega/ genesis was her display name) Iirc she changed her name and wiped her stuff a lot, but she was some black girl who drew a lot of ship art from the owl house. I didn’t care for the ships but the art was pretty, however she would pick fights with people almost every day like damn bitch go back to drawing. At one point she had 50k + followers but after an episode she deleted everyone

No. 1631866

>>1631863
thankfully i only follow japanese/russian/chinese artists so i cant understand shit of what they say

No. 1631872

>>1631854
Nightmare fuel.

No. 1631877

>>1631854
>started as
what is it if not a fetish

No. 1631880

>>1631767
Pathetic attempt retard

No. 1631882

>>1631877
to be fair, if you check the other vids on the channel, especially the fursuit contest ones there are a few that are really cool, but it's a culture deeply rooted in degeneracy and has always been for adults, its not that new furries are trying to retcon shit. Also that guy in the dominatriz fursona was friends with tezuka, who was also another furfag degenerate https://anony.link/https://archive.org/details/erotica_of_osamu_tezuka/page/n9/mode/2up

No. 1631899

>>1631457
I’ve watched this in real time, some smalls fandom artist came out as politely not-so-supportive of TIMs and over the past few months has been groomed by polchuds and tradthots after a huge overreaction and blacklisting from the community.

No. 1631955

>>1631880
Seethe, dogfucker.

No. 1632065

>>1631863
Tons of mutuals I only made because they had like 10k + followers and retweeted my shit. Most of them just draw borderline porn and every once in a while I'll draw a naked buff man as proof of my "anatomy knowledge" or some excuse like that. 90% of those people dick ride each other so hard and expect you to do the same.

No. 1632170

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No. 1632200

>>1630389
I wanna make money off it somehow. I do have an art related job, but it's with commission based and with a brand. Though, this actually makes me want to work on my own stuff at home cos I can think like "the stuff I draw for these clients is boring, so what DOES interest me?" In the past like at art school, before dropping out, omg I'm an art school drop out look ma I made it I was burnt out from doing my own art at school and not wanting to improve it, because I felt like I could only improve based on what my teachers liked. From that I can also tell I'd be terrible with personal commissions for my own art, here's hoping that somehow a small local gallery will like my original works? I don't know anymore. I do know I don't wanna be stuck with my current job forever though.

No. 1632227

>>1631794
> The author of Lackadaisy literally wrote a whole ass manifesto
Kek what. Link?

No. 1632234

>>1631955
Doing ok over here with my consistent stream of furry bucks
>>1632200
If you’re open to networking local shows are a great place to start. I also recommend art or maker fairs in your area, just make sure you have a good portfolio ready for review because they get competitive and usually have a screening panel

No. 1632339

>>1631254
Post your boys in cbsg we will appreciate them please

No. 1632356

>lose a bunch of followers after posting drawings of cute men, not even sexually explicit
Are moids really this sensitive? For reference I don’t even post drawings of cute/sexy women so I couldn’t have cultivated an audience of coomers.

No. 1632426

>>1631457
>I'm convinced the recent rise of lolishos in the west is directly related with the rise of antis
I don't see it as all. Western lolisho artists feel more likely to get major call-outs nowadays but they've been around for as long as I can remember. I saw all sorts of lolishota porn just from scrolling tumblr tags for cartoons and anime as a 13 year old, I remember omocat made tons of art with the word "shota" on it and it wasn't a big deal back them. I think loli/shotacons are more visable nowadays they're more likely to outwardly make being a "freak" their personality and get into fights about it on Twitter. Basically I don't think there's any real "rise" or lolishota in the west but its became more unacceptable to talk about that kind of stuff online so the people who do draw/post lolisho publicly stand out more.

No. 1632428

>>1631254
This is so stupid, just post your damn art, no one will give a shit that you have a military theme. There's a lot of diversity in what women like, it's not just bishies or old men, this is such a stupid generalization

No. 1632433

>>1632428
i understand nona's aprehension though because in my case i did get shit for drawing military themes. i have an account with moderate following as well as an original story that's primarily based on military though it's less about the nitty gritty stuff and more about me wanting to have ocs with military uniforms looking cool. my drawings weren't even too crazy, most of them was just characters standing or doing random stuff in a white void. multiple times i got accused of being a "military apologist" and got compared to those WW2 obsessed moids and other nonsense simply because i publicly proclaimed i found uniforms cool and fun to draw and i had a military story. eventually it stopped but that's because i just stopped drawing my ocs period. nowadays i only post them in a locked account.

now maybe if nona manages to be insular enough that she ends up surrounding herself only with people who like that type of content nobody will bother her, but never doubt the potential of a regular nosy twitter/tumblr acab-obsessed gendie to accuse you of crazy things based on what you draw.

No. 1632436

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Does anyone know what brushes was used for the coloring and lineart, and what ibisPaintx alternatives I could use?

No. 1632437

>>1632436

I'm not sure about the lineart but I'm pretty sure that the coloring + rendering were done using one of clip studio paint's watercolor or wash/watery brushes (or something similar)

No. 1632451

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>>1631469
This is really funny to read as an actually furry, cause the current furry fandom drama is people argueing about whether or not it's okay to draw porn of "ferals," straight up animals on all 4 legs. Picrel is a piece of "protest art" on the subject. There are people in the furry fandom with some sense of standards, but it's overwhelmed by degens and sex freaks

No. 1632453

>>1632451
Isn't there some furry thread this can be discussed in or is that banned? I'm all for the community drama. Does it fall under cosplay?

No. 1632455

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>>1632451
Another example of the furry "is it okay to want to fuck a literal cartoon dog" discourse. This happens like every other month on Twitter

No. 1632458

>>1632453
I'd love a furry thread but I feel it wouldn't fall under cosplay. A very small portion of the furry community is actually involved in fursuiting, most of the drama centers around art and occasionally "popufurs," furries with a lot of followers.
There is definitely plenty of gross fursuit discourse though, like whether its okay or not to wear a fursuit that has been used for sex in public. I could try to dig up caps if people are interested.

No. 1632469

>>1632455 >>1632451 such compelling arguements for their case. Wow, up until this moment I thought traumatising and rupturing the internal organs of animals was morally apprehensive and vile, but now I see it as totally liberating and simply an expression of one's sexual freedom. Go furry girlies, go get your assholes ruptured by a horse.

Furry porn truly is another form of prion disease isn't it.

No. 1632470

>>1632428
>>1632433
Even nonnas on /m/ (and sometimes /g/) get offended by it, even in fictional contexts.

No. 1632475

>>1630389
I am super late but I only draw as hobby. I am still learning and not even close to most nonnies here. I want to become very good at it so i can draw my Pnp character, OC and the ones from my friends.
The problem is learning how to draw is extremely emotional tyring for me that and working a demanding job, plus taking care of my parents makes me often just not want to draw.
But I alway come back to it. My dream is that one day I will look at my drawing and say: "Yes, that is how I imagined my Character."
Which is stupid I know.

No. 1632480

>>1632458
I mean, yeah. This could fit in right under the cosplay cringe thread.

No. 1632486

>>1630389
I have it aa a fulltime job and a hobby. I draw all the time, once i get stuck on a commission i work on my own projects untill i get the energy to work on commissions again. It's not very healthy to sit all the time, i do go for a walk once a week or in two weeks though. I draw pretty much 9 hours a day when i'm not too depressed. Having a project i'm passionate about gives me energy so i can work on commissions thinking "just a few hours and i can draw my stuff again"

No. 1632515

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>>1631254
> I mostly draw cute boys in military uniforms, with guns, tanks, aircrafts, monster boys, gijinkas etc.
/cbsg/ reg here, I have reason to believe that your work will be more than welcome both in the threads and discord (myself included, I'm very interested in seeing more military-related art!)
All art styles, skill levels, and types are welcomes so long as you are willing to draw.

>>1627073
We have artists within the discord/threads with considerably large followings and interact without any issues. In my personal experience, the discord has only been welcoming and supportive. If you're uncomfortable then you're uncomfortable, but I do hope that if you ever reconsider, know that you're always welcome at /cbsg/ (especially since we're always looking for fellow foid artists to banter with)

No. 1632533

>>1632433
>>1632470
Well, there's a lot of fan artists for those Call of Duty guys on Twitter, so do as they do and ignore the critics. Some anons got super mad about the military thread on /m/ but that's probably because most of it is real photos of real soldiers. And the one or two moralfags in the /g/ husbando thread got shat on by everyone else. Most people here don't really mind cute 2D boys in uniforms unless you're explicitly advocating for specific real life ideologies or armies like a LARPer scrote, I'd say. Especially when said boys are from fictional countries.

Also I'm pretty sure no one would care about the theme at all if she posted her art on /ic/. Maybe on Twitter or even here, but certainly not in /cbsg/. Though personally I'm too put off by /ic/ to want to post my art there.

No. 1632536

>>1631197
i flip through my sketchbooks occasionally and sometimes i show my gf what i drew and that's about it.
i like looking back on old pictures, often i like old ideas i had or details i drew even if my skill level wasn't as good.

No. 1632538

>>1631457
>For example, I'm convinced the recent rise of lolishos in the west is directly related with the rise of antis

While you wouldn't be wrong in terms of people just being contrarians, it is also the fact that everything had it's own space and you weren't forced to co-exist with everyone else. Western lolisho has always existed, but they were largely left alone if you didn't have an interest in that content.

Social media has done a lot of damage to niche and weird fetishes by trying to force everyone to be on the same website, companies swooping in and wanting websites to be clean for advertisers, etc. combine that with people whose only idea of social justice and protecting people are callouts online and it seems like there are more western lolishos than ever before when in actuality attention is just being drawn to them by relentless callout posts where the worst crime there is drawing lolisho while they defend antis who have actually done harm to children as just being "misunderstood" or "working on themselves"

For as weird as lolishos are, I remember reading an article "the myth of the safe adult" wherein a lot of prominent antis are just abusers in sheep's clothings and how people have basically been gaslight into believing the type of media or fictional porn you consume matters more than how you actually treat other people.

No. 1632555

>>1632538
No offense but lol at "prominent antis"

No. 1632566

Bump

No. 1632646

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Would this kind of sylvanian family-esque art be considered furry? I have been seeing a rise of similar art on IG for the past year or so, but it surprised me that most of the arists (or at least the ones IG pushes onto me) are your run of the mill women.

No. 1632654

>>1632646
No? Furry art always has a sexual undertone. This clearly has not

No. 1632658

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>>1632646
Personally I would say no just because it isn't smirking.

No. 1632673

>>1632451
>degeneracy is a nazi dogwhistle, let me draw porn of non anthro animals in peace!
Phew

No. 1632676

>>1632658
Not the fucking dreamworks smirk, lmao.

>>1632515
NTA but I've also been curious about posting my boys there, but I absolutely super don't wanna be recognized. I'm kind of a nobody so I wanna give it a shot though; if it's as chill as you're saying it is, I might actually take a chance. I draw a ton of demon guys.

No. 1632724

>>1632646
Are anons so against other art communities, even the SFW parts, and that they assume all furry creatures with anthro are on the gross side of the fandoms? This is just anthro-art. It's always been a thing, for decades. Before art, people were using dead animals in portraits and dressed them up in scenes. Do you plan to draw penetration porn, anon? Or have the rabbits dick out? Then what are you even asking about? You must not be 18 or something if you are serious.

I honestly don't see the issue unless it's shit like fake-dog piss drinker up thread. Even then, not all furry art is degen, especially when the issue is that you're putting so many human characteristics on characters meant to have human characteristics. I see people flip out about Lola Bunny pulling down her shorts in some fanart, but it's literally a human body with rabbit ears. No one is looking at that and comparing it to >>1632646 and asking if they are the same. If someone was going to make NSFW content, I'd rather it be Lola and not anon's photo because there's barely any connection to animals when the character is so overtly humanoid.

There are different levels of anthropomorphizing a character too which is what I think makes it gross. If you're going to just make it so they are a thinking creature and still walk on all fours, dog as an example, that's gross. Drawing porn with clearly unanthro'd animals is fucked if it's with a human. Having to anthros fuck each other, isn't bad. Human with barely anthro'd character, gross. I don't know how to make this clear to anons at all because some of you seem to hyper analyze what is and isn't okay in art, but look at it from such a linear perspective that it throws out an entire community based on some shitty people in it. Mind you, I'm not even a furry. I just do art in general and you can't avoid the community, but humoid anthro art is not even a problem IMO.

>>1632658
That's pretty unavoidable when you have them more human than >>1632646 due to the placement of the nose. Especially on a dog or long-snouted characters.

No. 1632747

>>1632515
>foid artists
Sigh…

No. 1632774

>>1632515
That collar is way too long

No. 1632828

>>1632724
I'm saying this as someone who was on the furry fandom aeons ago, I used to draw stuff in a style similar to that rabbit because I find it cute, but like other anons have said there are too many degenerates on that fandom, you never know who will end up being a pedo/zoophile (to not mention how others tend tl think you're a creep even if your drawings look like thise Littlest Pet Shop toys). It's almost impossible to form a normal/SFW community since often someone has links with cumbrains and your art end up leaking on that part even of you don't want it. I honestly can't blame anyone from being overly cautious or thinking the fandom is full of creeps because it's true.

No. 1632829

>>1632646
Nah, that's just an anthropomorphized animal and more in the tradition of artist like Beatrix Potter. If you go with a wider definition of furry you could call it that but I think most people associate that term more with a specific style based on Disney movies and stronger sexualization.

No. 1632833

>>1632515
>foid artists
Ew.

No. 1632847

>>1632828
This is such a bad reason to stay away from drawing furry or antrho art. There's RU34 for a reason. even the most SFW communities have degens. If you're going to limit your art to "But if this person uploads here.. or shares to these people.." Look what the Nazis did with the swastika. A bunch of degens, in this case genocidal idiots, took something wholesome and turned it into a symbol thats only for hate. If you look at furry art and only see the entire community in that vein of "these are bad people", don't bother drawing then. Don't post. Keep your shit to yourself and don't complain that you can't find a community. This is no different that stay away from people you don't want to be friends with. This is right up there with anons complaining about not wanting people with bios with pronouns to ask them for a commission. You cannot avoid people desecrating your art. No different that you can't stop them from hating on it, even if it is the most SFW shit possible.

Some anons have the mentality of a 12-year-old when it comes to participating in online spaces. Maybe it's because I'm old as hell and have dealt with even the earliest of chatrooms, but gotta stop eliminating entire communities and then complain you can't make money or share your art.

No. 1632858

>>1632515
foid is an insult dummy

No. 1632866

>>1632847
Comparing furry art's stigma to swastika is so hilarious I don't know if this is just a prime example of furries and their terminal persecution complex or trolling. Furries have been hated since the dawn of the internet even by their own kind, just accept that they're rightfully ostracized and have ruined anthro art for a lot of people because they refuse to keep reins on their community.

No. 1632869

>>1632866
Anon, take the analogy. You know what I mean by it. Don't nitpick it. Disney has also drawn furries and other shit, so don't watch them ever again because you'll be supporting furries. This goes for Warner Bros too. Most people in fandoms don't even interact with the entirety of the fandom. They usually have their own circle of people they follow or interact with who they haven't blocked. I don't know why anons keep going on about the entire fandom of something when that's not even half the truth of what interaction is as far as an artist goes. People like Sakimi don't even interact with their entire follower base because the artist chooses not to.

Anons are supposed to be adults. Act like it.

No. 1632877

>>1632869
If that's the case then why does the furry fandom keeps bending over backwards in the most insane and retarded ways possible to make itself seem totally super amazing and minor-friendly and totally not full of sex pests and zoophiles? Sakimichan doesn't interact with her fanbase but she doesn't try to manipulate her own image either, she draws moid shit and owns up to it. The problem with the furry fandom is that it is filled to the brim with perverts and sex addicts who don't know how to act normal be it in public or online and they are a pretty loud portion of the fanbase but instead of doing something about those people the general furry fandom instead chooses to turn a blind eye and go "no but we're totally safe for minors! Just ignore the rampant fetish and porn and cub content everywhere that appears even if you make regular searches for content because some sex pests don't tag their content!"

So yes, they are ostracized and yes they deserve it. Not all furries are perverts indeed but there's A LOT of them in the fandom and the furry fandom is not safe for minors in any way and yet it tries to make itself seem like it without taking any measures about those degenerates.

No. 1632882

>>1632877
It's not the whole fandom, anon. Upthread anons mentioned how they already have discourse amongst them between furfags and bestfags. I don't know what issue you have, but just seems like you want to hate on a community regardless and I'm not even defending the community, I'm explaining how communities work. Reminds me of people complaining that no amount of sexual art should be made by women because a man might use it for porn and thus she is making porn and ruins all the female artists producing art. fandoms are only deemed 'dead' by people who don't know anything about the fandom. Just like a bunch of Homestuck retards ruined Homestuck, but it was literally a minority of the fandom that was loud and obnoxious.

No. 1632885

>>1632882
Of course it's not the whole fandom, it's a matter of image. The furry fandom has a serious image issue. Yes, there are good and wholesome and perfectly fine furry artists and fursuiters. And yes, there are many predators and porn addicts who only think about fetish shit. The problem is that just like with the Homestuck fandom, those bad apples are loud. They are loud, they don't tag their content, they don't keep to themselves, and they act out both in public and online if they get the chance. But the fandom, instead of trying to repair its image and keep reigns on the community just pretends those bad apples don't exist and tries to paint itself as safe and friendly when it's not. It's why "furry" has always been a term associated with sexual deviants, because the community doesn't do shit about its own trash and hell sometimes they even encourage it because Muh Freedom.

I'm not saying furries should stop drawing NSFW. I'm saying furries should admit that their general community is crawling with perverts and that the general community is NOT safe for minors because of the abundance of untagged NSFW content and adult pests being unable to mind their own business.

No. 1632894

>>1632882

>Reminds me of people complaining that no amount of sexual art should be made by women because a man might use it for porn and thus she is making porn and ruins all the female artists producing art.


except thats just adults complaining about adults tho. this has nothing to do with going to a furrycon thats open to the public and theoretically 'for all ages' and come face to face with people in murrsuits wearing diapers and wearing kinky gear and talking about sex in public in a space thats also open to minors including young children. have you ever thought about why many anime cons have strict afterdark panel hours?

No. 1632911

>>1632877
All of this. My main problem with furries is that they keep sweeping their problems under the rug and instead point fingers at other communities that are much larger and more scattered and have other sides to them than just fetish porn and grooming teenagers just so that they don't have to face how many of them actually want to fuck dogs or little children. Generic anthro artists drawing anthropomorphized characters or animals don't want to associate with furries or be called furry artists because the word in itself is so tainted with the weird sex imagery, sperm coated fursuits and con orgies, desperately trying to whitewash the furry community is a fool's errand. The damage was done in the 80's and any attempt at salvaging the reputation decades later will not work out.

As a personal anecdote, I've been around the internet and fandom spaces for two decades and I have never met a normal, grown up furry who wasn't a maladjusted sex freak or a drugged out sociopath or both. The only ones I would consider well adjusted are literal 13-year olds drawing their sparkledog OCs who eventually grow out of it or branch out to different endeavors, never embracing the furry lifestyle or the community. Even their autists are never the Rain man type harmless train enthusiast but the kind bugging artists online to draw their feeder fetish fursona shitting and pissing his diapers. Furries deserve all the hate they get and I don't blame any anthro artist who wants them to stay away.

No. 1632922

>>1632847
I never said I stopped drawing, the skills I gained actually helped me to be a pet cartoonish as a part-time job.
I'm just not a part of that fandom now and understand why someone would be wary of the furry fandom since the ratio of normal people-creeps is in favour of creeps the majority of the time, that's all. I still gather with artists near me and maintain a few friends from my furry era, not everything has to be online (and even online, I just post while not tied to a specific community/fandom)

No. 1632928

>>1632927
Nona read the very first phrase of the post I replied to…
>This is such a bad reason to stay away from drawing furry or antrho art

No. 1632940

>>1632882
The vast majority of furfags are porn addicts and they are always casually bringing up sex and porn like their SFW art is inherently tied to NSFW shit. Like they don't even keep it separate, they all know their community is heavily focused on porn. It is assumed that furry is mostly a fetish and not just an innocent interest in anthropomorphic animal characters. That community is inherently into fetish shit. The only exceptions are those that are specifically trying to distance themselves from the degeneracy and just want to focus on the designs of animal characters or storytelling. I don't know why you guys keep implying they're just as clean as any other fandom. If anything it's other fandoms that are getting more pornsick thanks to the internet, but furries have always been that degenerate.

No. 1632946

>>1632882

if furries didn't have a porn problem then there wouldn't have been a whole movement recently of furries literally trying to create a separate community with a different name just so that sfw furry artists and minors had a safe space to hide from all the degeneracy as well as a label to use in public to distance themselves from the meaning that the term "furry" holds.

No. 1633003

>>1632833
>>1632858
Don't be anal about it, so few people contribute their drawings in these threads I don't want to chase away new artists

No. 1633042

>>1633039
Yeah, moid's a derogatory term for men. You'll only find women on lolcow. Moids get banned.

No. 1633046

Do you nonnies think there'd be a way at all to create an art focused, lc adjacent server? Being in a woman only (voice verification required) art server would be my dream, the cbsg one doesn't sound bad but i rarely draw males, and don't have any interest in making them my main art subject, plus i haven't posted on /ic/ in a while and i have no intention to go back. I'm afraid it would die down pretty fast best case scenario, though…

No. 1633055

>>1633046
Make it nonnie

No. 1633057

>>1633046
No promises yet but I've been thinking of creating a booru board like some anons on CC talked about so it would be image focused only

No. 1633062

>>1633046
I'd be interested but there would have to be rules against infighting and weird behavior, and ideally I would like to have some non-lc users in there since there are some crazy nonnies on this site.

No. 1633075

>>1633003
>>1632515
NTA but if you want to atttact more female artists to your already tiny community maybe you shouldn't be using a literal incel term for women and say it's "haha just bantz we love bantz"

No. 1633079

>>1633055
>>1633062
I might try if some more nonnies are interested, I'd be down for having non-lc users too but I wouldn't know how or where to promote it without getting raided by scrotes or twitterfags (which would probably bring unnecessary dramas still).
>>1633057
The booru idea would be cute too! I just would find a discord server better for art and feedback sharing, or studying sessions and such.

No. 1633080

>>1633075
Yeah. Very weird shit going on here.

No. 1633085

>>1633046
Nonna I wouldn't trust voice verification as there have been plenty instances where moids use their sisters or other female relatives to voice verify for them

No. 1633087

>>1633057
Would this booru of yours be for women to post their own art, or to archive art by other artists like danbooru?

No. 1633091

>>1633085
I thought about maybe having to give a short introduction on call to voice verify, wouldn't that be harder to fake? And even then, it's very hard for a moid to successfully woman larp for longer periods of time, ime.

No. 1633105

>>1632847
>furries being hated for the many, many, coombrained furfags there are is the exact same as the swastika being hated cos of nazis, you guys are such 12 year olds and I'm mature and experienced
Uh huh

No. 1633106

>>1633075
Most users of /cbsg/ don't interact with lolcow (which is why anon didnt know m/foid was a no-no here. Anyway /cbsg/ isn't going to be a good fit for you if you can't take a little banter. We are looking for people serious about their art, not those who are going to police language and other petty things that have nothing to do with drawing.

No. 1633109

>>1632646
The art style may or may not be kemono-adjacent (depends on what other stuff the artist draws) but this to me just looks like a random cute picture. If I were a normal Instagram user and saw this, I wouldn't associate it with furry.
Keep in mind that not all anthropomorphic animal art is furry. If it's true that these artists are completely normal women then that would make their art non-furry.

No. 1633113

we all know of the sfw artist to coomer timeline, but what about the opposite? i know aruurara since my pegasister days and i remember he used to draw mostly mlp porn, but then, as he got better, he completly dropped nsfw. I am glad because his new direction is very nice.

No. 1633118

>>1633109
>not all anthropomorphic animal art is furry
Can I ask what the diff is? Apart from mental illness and the furry smirk >>1632658 kek. And the ugly style most of them are drawn in, Japanese furries can make them look a little cute at least. Asking cos I like drawing sylvanian family looking animals too and if anything don't want greasy furries to think I'm one of them if I post it online.

No. 1633119

>>1633118
nta but animal crossing/sylvanian family arent furry

No. 1633123

>>1633118
It honestly sounds like anons shouldn't even bother drawing anthros if they are so worried about being roped into a community they hate. I can't tell if this is bait at the moment. The smirk thing specifically has to do with how the dog's mouth is drawn. Normal dogs smirk because their 'smile' extends only on one side. The braindead commentary on furries has some of the worst reasoning ITT. Anons should just do everyone a favor and not draw antro in general, problem solved. Anons are giving good advice about how to approach this for hours, yet comments like yours completely disregard any of it because you're so focused on not being roped in with degen furries. Just like shit you like, hangout and talk to people you like, don't even be a part of the entire community if its a problem. No one interacts with an entire community.

No. 1633124

>>1633118
if you don't want to associate with furries then don't draw furries, it's simple as.

No. 1633125

can a nonny help me out with the hair shading? i have no idea how to fix the shading and its driving me crazy. If anyone has shading tips i would also appreciate them, i really hate painting but i am trying to get out of my comfort zone.
https://litter. catbox .moe/hp1pgh.png

No. 1633126

>>1633123
Also, men are going to take your photos and upload them anywhere they want regardless, maybe even scrape if for AI use, so just post regardless. You're going to ger an unsavory interaction regardless at some point. You can't avoid.

No. 1633127

>>1633113
There was a female artist whose username escapes me right now, who used to draw cartoony straight porn in historical settings. It was a bit male-gazey but I digress. I believe she decided to stop drawing that and focus entirely on her SFW art, only keeping her NSFW account up as an archive. Her username had "snowman" or something in it.

>>1633123
shut up furfag

No. 1633129

>>1633127
Yeah, we don't want you in our SFW anthro spaces with cute anthro characters. Don't bother asking for advice again, anon and with that reply you really don't care and just want to shit up the thread with your dumbass reasons for 'but the furfags will come after me'. If you're so scared, don't bother.

No. 1633133

>>1633125
this is an imageboard, no one is clicking your link or typing it in without the spaces. Why did you even break it up anyway?

No. 1633134

>>1633133
because i didnt want to leave a trail here and because this site automatically archives all the links, but i think it broke

No. 1633135

>>1633134
Anon, just share the image you are referencing. That has nothing to do with a paper trail.. No one liked clicking external links without a view of what they are going to see on this site. This is an imageboard. Screenshot it even.

No. 1633137

>>1633075
You didn't read it right

No. 1633138

File: 1689294662674.png (167.4 KB, 451x469, hairdoo.png)

>>1633135
its not a reference it was a ss of my drawing, that's why i didnt wanna post it. I really wish this site archived then vanished the threads like 4c.

No. 1633140

>>1633118
Furfags won't think you're catering to them if you draw cute stuff like >>1632646. Some may find your art and enjoy it but they will probably know that you're not drawing for them and are not part of their community.
Just like scrotes will sexualize any female character, furfags will sexualize any animal character in fiction if they find out about and are attracted to it, but that doesn't mean every animal character is made with furries in mind.
So don't worry about that. Animal Crossing (an example of non-furry animal characters) has a ton of fanart by normal people that just think the characters are cute. They're mostly kept separate from the furry degenerates who sexualize the cute animals. They will not think you're one of them, but you should accept that doesn't stop them or anyone else from enjoying your art.

>>1633134
NTA but I think links are only archived if you click on [Archived Copy].

>>1633133
It's a fucking catbox.moe link, everyone here should know what that is, as people on every other imageboard do.

No. 1633142

>>1633138
Anon, at least personally, I'm not going off site to try and find who you are or find your other art. Imo, I like your hair shading. A lot of people just color block, but you have depth and you are following highlights well too. Love your painterly style, anon, a lot of people can't do that as well as draw without hard lining which you also seem to be doing really well.

[you have 30 minutes to delete your post if you are concern, just watch the clock and hopefully other anons will have some advice for you too, but Im not kidding when I say I like your art. That painterly style Ive been tying to learn how to do better myself]

No. 1633145

>>1633140
This is an imageboard, I don't care about catbox. A lot of anons don't want to click external links too and I don't think catbox is as common knowledge as you think.

Also like you said above about furries, for the most part, the SFW and NSFW sections are separate. Some people interact with people on the other side, but the entirety of being a part of the fandom you want is what you encircle yourself with. Anons don't want to be interacting with NSFW artists? Then block them and their fans. It's not hard to do. You can curate your audience.

No. 1633149

>>1633145
You're being ott that's like acting scared of imgur

No. 1633151

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>>1633142
thanks, i am actually >>1631254 so i dont really post anywhere. Your comments inspired me to eventually make a twitter or neocities gallery, but first i wanna get better at painting. I seriously cant understand painting, so i have been avoiding it until recently, i would love to paint like pic rel(but with anime boys instead of 3DPD, lol) but i dont know where to start with digital painting.

No. 1633153

>>1633149
You know you can give anon advice on their art instead of infighting, newfag. You're not supposed to only post links. Learn how our imageboard works instead of crying about links all imageboard users should know.

No. 1633156

>>1633151
For me, at least for digital when I tried to do the same type of watercolor works through procreate, is always start with the form. Not just the layout of their perimeter, but you can use a really low opacity and block out their gestures and stuff. You kind of seem to be doing that a little bit already. The biggest hurdle I've experienced if just trying to figure out what brushes I like using. I can watch a ton of artists with their tips and tricks, but figuring out what feels good when I'm using my pencil isn't something they can help with. I've learned that learning digitally is a lot more self teaching while having another artist in the background and just background noise. Looking up now and then to see a technique and trying it sometimes.

Something you might have fun with is taking already existing older works of art like your picrel and blocking out the backgrounds. Try eliminating the people you see, get a clean background [which helps find the types of brushes you need for the painting] and then drawing in anime guys. People do this is portraits of cats instead of kings all the time.

No. 1633162

>>1633138
>I really wish this site archived then vanished the threads like 4c.
You know there are external 4chan archives, right? Until those are taken down or their hard drives crash, your /ic/ posts will forever be archived. Even if you post and then delete.
Anyways I don't know what you were so scared of. You art seems perfectly fine.

>>1633145
>I don't think catbox is as common knowledge as you think
Then stop saying "t-this is an imageboard!" as your excuse because, among imageboards, lolcow is the exception on both forcing its users to post a preview of a link and not knowing what the fuck catbox is. I understand it's this particular site's policy, but it's not general imageboard policy.

No. 1633163

>>1633138
I like the hair shading! I think the hairlines a little low though. Maybe try to reduce the shine on the thin hairpiece above the glasses, and focus the other shine of the hair on where the light hits the most.

No. 1633172

>>1633106
If you want more female artists outside of /cbsg/ to join you don't use incel language when advertising your server/general, simple as. Btw I never saw that kind of "banter" in the few female-dominated threads I used last time I visited 4chan, we were too busy dealing with scrotes shitting up our thread. And that includes /cbsg/ itself.

No. 1633180

>>1633162
Nta but what are you talking about. When someone says "this is an imageboard" it obviously means "post an image"

No. 1633190

File: 1689297799811.png (Spoiler Image,2.69 MB, 1267x1780, rat race wip.png)

>>1633156
thanks! that makes sense, i will try that from now on.
>>1633162
yeah, but its very hard to navigate through archives if you dont know what you are looking for. But yeah, you are right. I dont plan on living off art anyways, so i dont care about being linked with lc.
>>1633163
thanks, its actually a top view, but i might have screwed up the perspective.
Here's the wip if anyone has any more critiques, i really wanna get done with it tonight or tomorrow so i can shelve it and start grinding painting. Does anyone have a starting point? i feel very clueless about it since i have been skipping it until this year.

No. 1633193

>>1633172
This post is a whole lot of 'drama is my only personality trait since I don't actually draw anything'. Again nodraws need not apply.

No. 1633197

>>1633190
Nonnie I really like this! The composition and colors are really interesting. For the perspective, I'd lower the eyes/facial features. With the context of the rest of the piece's perspective the hairline looks fine now, the face just looks like it's from a regular perspective as opposed to facing down.

No. 1633203

>>1633190
Oh my god this is so cute! I don't have any critique right now since I got kind of busy. But you can also post your art for critique in the Rate My Art thread >>>/m/187240 Not everyone who uses /ot/ uses /m/ and vice-versa so you might get additional comments there

No. 1633206

>>1633193
I don't know, whenever I imagine a woman unironically saying 'foid' to other woman I just imagine she's a edgelord tryhard. It's just in bad taste since foid is used as an insult towards women similar to cunt.

No. 1633212

>>1633206
Nta that makes sense, I've seen women using it alongside moid so it didn't register completely as a turbo incel word. Imo not as bad as bitch, whore, cunt though

No. 1633221

>>1633190
i feel like the hairline is a little too far down and compared to the rest of him it feels over rendered.

No. 1633225

>>1633190
Oh anon this looks so good!! I really like the perspective and the mood of the scene. I'd love to see more of your art!

No. 1633227

>>1633193
>Join our /ic/ thread! We want more fellow foid artists to banter with!
>eww why are you calling us foids
>d-don't police my language dramafag, I bet you don't even draw anything, we didn't want you anyway!!
kek just admit you fucked up in that post

>>1633206
Yeah. And if there are channer males in that server (>>1626030 said there were moids and they only got removed for inactivity) and that's the kind of language the women use for each other it just comes across as pickme-ish and annoying. Plus discord servers usually go to shit pretty quickly. I'm sure none of this will stop some nonas from joining but personally I'd only want to post in the threads, at most. I hate Discord and servers can get very clique-y, imo they're mostly useful to make friends, and I just want anonymous critique. I didn't even know they had a server until this thread, it seems unnecessary since the general was doing just fine and it seemed to have a good atmosphere.(infighting)

No. 1633245

>>1633227
The funny thing is I didn't even make that post, but watching people who can't even foster their own artist circles complain about another one because some newfaw stumbled in to shill the very thing this '''''community''''' is begging for is top-shelf schadenfreude.

No. 1633256

>>1633227
>>1633245
No more infighting it was just a word, I'm not the first anon, but I post both here and in cbsg and just want to spread the word incase any nonas want somewhere anon to post work. It's a comfy thread for yumes and fujos we don't have to fight my sisters.

No. 1633257

I feel like this is something so insignificant to complain about but im having a hard time getting any interaction with my art on twitter or tumblr nowadays. Is there a way to boost getting seen? Ive been on both those websites for years now

No. 1633260

>>1633118
>Can I ask what the diff is? Apart from mental illness and the furry smirk
Former furry artist here. I feel like a tell tale sign of furry vs cartoony animal is human proportions. The more stylized or animal-like they are the less I assume the artist is churning out porn on the side. Think something like Beatrix Potter vs Road Rovers or Zootopia.

No. 1633261

>>1633257
doesnt twitter limit how many tweets you can see per day now? you could try posting on discord or threads. Sadly, despite all of the big art websites turning the back on artists last year there hasnt really been a real, new alternative.

No. 1633272

>>1633261
I think people are still kind of waiting to see if one of the alternatives takes off.

No. 1633274

>>1633118

Seconding >>1633260. Used to draw furry art a couple years ago and was a part of the furry fandom at the time.

"Non-Furry" anthro is usually more stylized and focused on the animal traits, in my opinion particularly the faces, hands and proportions. Those usually have the heads and faces following the animal's actual anatomy with some stylization. The hands (paws?) may not have all five fingers, the body proportions tend to be closer to the actual animal's with some stylization (ex. a small rabbit girl with a long torso but short arms and legs that are usually in the typical bunny rest position rather than standing fully upright). Females may have a curve on the bosom indicating breasts but never as actual defined boobs and not always either.

Meanwhile furry art tends to lean more towards human anatomy. Faces will have a more "human-like" build to better sustain human-like facial expressions, usually you'll have the character with full five fingers on each hand and the hands are closer to a human's anatomy wise, etc. The females will almost always have defined boobs even if it's not a mammal, the males may have defined pecs and abs like a human dude, the proportions will almost always look very human, you get the gist.

Of course it's not a hard rule, but in my experience that's where I usually saw the line being drawn. Anthro non-furries tended to stick a lot closer to animal features while actual furries did a more human approach.

No. 1633288

>>1633257
Not unless you're blue and even then that just makes your post show up under notifications and on your timeline they get priority, but only if you follow them and they are blue, or you are blue. being blue doesn't even promote you to people who aren't following you. It's a massive cash scam, twitter is completely throttled unless you produce IRL or are pushing crypto.

No. 1633296

>>1633272
to be fair tumblr is still somewhat good but the problem there is that no one reblogs as much anymore. i've noticed artworks with over 1k notes but the reblogs and likes ratio is wack

No. 1633307

File: 1689308875192.jpeg (1.06 MB, 2047x1815, IMG_6026.jpeg)

Weird question, but has anyone else gone from being a tryhard grindset art school applying high schooler to a "art is for fun!!" adult with a job in a completely non-creative field?

I remember spending all my waking hours working on improving at drawing, I briefly was an Art Youtuber(tm) - and now, years later, I've done a 180 to now drawing my ocs that my 16 year old self would've decried as a Mary Sue to end all Mary Sues - all while having absolutely zero social media presence to speak of. Anyone else going through this weird shift, if not outright apathy??

No. 1633315

>>1633307
My story isn't the exact same as yours, but I agree the older I get, the more I just make art to make me happy. It doesn't matter what how cringe I think others might view it, I'm just making it for myself anyways. Actually, it's one of the most positive things about getting older for me.

No. 1633318

>>1633307
I feel you. Most of my teenage life as an artist was spent drawing nonstop and desperately trying to build and online presence for the validation and attention, yet as I grew older and finally got skilled enough where my art would actually bring in numbers I started to want to distance myself from stuff like fandom and the online art community more and more and nowadays I pretty much only draw for myself. It honestly felt very freeing to finally not care anymore about numbers or online presence or anything like that and just draw what I want at my pace.

No. 1633323

>>1633318
I am the same as you, I was trying for years to get good to get online validation. Then I became a hugely popular artist in a fandom and "being a popular online artist" lost its dopamine. That allowed me to let go of numbers and just focus on what I wanted to draw, and I eventually distanced myself from the fandom that made me popular too. I do make art for a living though, it's just like any other job. Money is 10x better than a thousand likes.

No. 1633362

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>>1633307
My view of art definitely chaged since i left art highschool and spend a couple of years in art uni. I still work in art, i can't really do anything else, i feel it's my destiny. But the absolute selfwanking mentality of the actual proffesional artists in academia opened my eyes to what's happening and i don't want to have anything in common with these people. These people are vile, selfish, closeminded and not at all about skill. The only thing they value is how many pages can you write about this white geometric tile that some old fart made. No joy, no skill, they are just preteding to know everything in front of eachother so they can compliment one another about how deep they are for making a cicrle out of floorboards, or drawing an unifineshed circle on a building. The higher you go, the more ridiculous this facade is. I've been taught in UNI by a man who's art was dressing up in a batman costume, having sex with a pregnant woman while being on ultrasound and that being filmed. Everybody pretended like that's some kind of epic society critiques or something. (For some reason i can't find the record of this performace on the internet anymore, maybe he finally realized it was creepy)
I left that hellhole and two years later i met a student of that UNI, she got extremly offended by me just saying that "This shit ain't for me", was almost yelling at me defending those crazy lazy teachers and then ran away. I could see them she was brainwashed by that system.
Now i'm free, i finally enjoy painting, drawing, explore the topics and techniques everdybody at UNI thought were cringe or something only esotheric fools do and i undesrtood the techniques in a way they never could for their egoism. I guess the world is the same as in Van Gogh's times. I'll never be famous or have famous exibitions like my peers because i can't serve the system. It's made to rasie a new generation of artists but they have to do the old generation's work and if you can't be brainwashed into thinking it's good, you'll get nothing. But that's okay for me, that's why i quit, i never wanted to be famous i just wanted to express something bigger than us and that something isn't a fucking floorboard circle.

No. 1633381

Can anyone explain how international artists are able to table at US cons? AX had a lot of artists based outside of the US tabling at the artist alley. Do they hop in on visitor visas and just ship their stock in? Or are they all somehow given working visas for a weekend?

No. 1633397

>>1633307
I've always held this sentiment about art, it's why I never applied myself in art classes. I even remember telling my art teacher that I would rather not make a living off of artistic things bc it would be a drain. It doesn't matter if you're a youtuber drawing fanart and ocs or in the gaming/movie industry creating conceptual artwork, it's all being done for someone other than yourself. Yes it would be nice making a living off your art but not when it's a hustle like a normal job. That shit wears thin quickly. I think that many artists should use art as a side hustle rather than a full time thing and be more devoted to self fulfilling art rather than that which panders to other people. Honestly some really good art can come from stuff that people just make for themselves and decide to share to the world. I honestly thought most people had these same sentiments but was railroaded with the reality when I finally got on social media as an adult.

No. 1633402

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>>1632646
On this train of thought would this be considered furry? I know the artist does real real furry shit bc I've seen it but they also do this red wall style anthro stuff which I find cute. Would it be considered furry just by the creator or is it actually furry styled?

No. 1633403


No. 1633413

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>>1633402
I think this anon already answered your question >>1633274
Differentiate between 'tasteful' anthro art, ovopack is one of the example anthro artists that can make animal characters and still deliver a story behind them rather than a generic deviantart furry art tends to look like rainbow puke.
picrel for example, I don't play arknight but it's a widely popular mobile game with interesting anthro character designs.

fyi I'm not a furry, just have been observant of this community and their general inspirations. although I can understand anons who are repulsed by pornsick furries, the other anon is correct that you should just seek out to what you really like and outright tell off anyone has made you uncomfortable. Just sayin'

No. 1633422

>>1633079
i would be really interested in an art discord server nonnie. i've always wanted to share my art with other farmers but being associated with this site when you post a lot of your art on twitter (and have a partial gendie audience..) seems to be a bit too risky for me. i think there's definitely an interest anyway since others keep bringing the idea up. worst case it dies, but at least someone tried it. for now i wouldn't promote the server anywhere else though. there's already proof that scrotes from /ic/ are lurking this thread and i don't want to risk any more.

>>1633307
i've actually experienced the opposite. i always thought i'd only do art on the side for fun while working as a software dev full time but tbh the corporate world is sucking the life out of me and i want to quit so bad and just draw all the time. at least the thought of never having a useless meeting again is giving me a ton of motivation and discipline to practice and improve as much as possible kek.

No. 1633427

>>1633307
>Weird question, but has anyone else gone from being a tryhard grindset art school applying high schooler to a "art is for fun!!" adult with a job in a completely non-creative field?
That's me. Since early childhood I was in love with art and wanted to become an artist, but in the end chose a completely different career in STEM because it paid the bills. In retrospect I'm glad I did because being a professional artist sucks so hard especially if you're a freelancer, but I do feel bad about not being able to follow my "true calling". I had a talent and I was enthusiastic about it, I could spend hours upon hours grinding theory and making studies and I will never have that amount of passion for my current job. But it's a 9 to 5 that makes it possible for me to buy art supplies to do it in my free time and who knows, maybe someday in my old age I'll transition to art full time in some way.

No. 1633444

>>1633091
First of all. Moids could prepare for it. For example… they could have their niece/sister/mother be on standby and when it is time for voice verification, they can just speak into the mic.
Secondly. How can you tell a moid is a moid as time goes on?

No. 1633467

>>1633444
I don't think a lot of moids have that possibility, and it'd also be incredibly awkward if the introduction included a bit of small talk on your art goals and such, would they have to read a script? Have the scrote next to them suggest stuff? I don't know, it sounds very unnatural and easy to see through.
I have interacted with too many scrotes during my younger years and they mostly have no reason to be in female spaces long term without acting weird or gross, and it's not the same as being a weird woman either. lol

No. 1633473

>>1633307

Yeah, I went from "art is fun" to the meat grinder that is trying to break in to the animation industry during college, and right back into "art is for fun". I hate that I wasted what felt like years of my time trying to get into an industry full of sloppy moids and pick-mes, when it was the same handful of artists getting those jobs fresh out of their expensive prestigious college and beyond. It was cliques all the way down and I hated every moment of having to waste time revising a portfolio and sucking up to people who gatekept the jobs and couldn't care less for anyone else outside their cronies.

Looking back with what I know now and the current landscape of the animation industry I'm laughing because I realize I dodged a serious bullet. I have a steady, decent job, satisfied and feeling more fulfilled knowing I'm making art I actually like now without the bullshit. If I'd actually pushed harder or got unlucky enough to break in to the industry, I would never have had the time or energy to make achieve what I've currently or recently accomplished.

No. 1633520

>>1633274
>>1633260
Ayrt thanks for the explanations!

I also agree with the other replies that degens will sexualise anything anyway so I shouldn't care what I post, I've been having trouble with that generally tbh and not just related to furries.

>>1633129
I feel like you thought that anon was me. Oh nooo whatever shall I dooo the meanie nona doesn't want me in her club. K.

No. 1633628

>>1633413
who drew this, this looks really good?

No. 1633687

File: 1689358094082.jpg (1.69 MB, 1984x1080, kuroblood ak.jpg)

>>1633628
@Kuroblood on Twitter, Chinese furry who does a lot of art for gatchagames lately.
Seeing people say they aren't a furry is really funny though, they literally have a furaffinity page that was active for many years lol

No. 1633767

>>1632646
>>1633402
These are both furries imo but I think some people in this thread are of the opinion that anthros drawn by non-furfags aren't furries just because they're "tasteful"

No. 1633773

>>1633767
Imo, it's literally just NSFW community vs SFW community. I don't see much degeneracy in the SFW side, so I don't know what anons are doing wrong or if they are just hypothesizing the idea of even posting art and getting an interaction.

Fun tip, you can block people, anons. Use the function. Make your own curated community. You're not going to stop NSFW people from interacting with you.

No. 1633809

File: 1689367945000.png (3.38 MB, 2732x2048, IMG_9634.png)

What's in the head of these cutecore artists to make a lc mascot interpretation look so coomery

No. 1633823

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>>1633402
>>1632646
These are all furry art. Furry art is all about humanizing animals, making them act like people. Just because it's cuter, doesn't mean it's not furry. I guess anons would like to differentiate between "anthro" and "furry", but it's different routes to the same destination.

You don't have to associate with the degenerate furry fandom to enjoy drawing cute humanized animals. Drawing animal heads on human bodies is a common illustration subject as well. The idea of animals acting and having the same emotions as humans isn't an inherently degen concept. Moids will sexualize a toaster, they're the problem, not the concept of humanized animals.

No. 1633825

>>1633809
i've reached the point where the moment i see that an artist draws gijinkas/humanizations i already assume they're a coomer and don't know how to draw a regular girl and move on

No. 1633826

>>1633823
>>1633767
>>1633773

Furry and anthro are two words for the same thing indeed but I think what the anons are trying to say is that nowadays those words hold pretty different meanings in the public's view. If you label yourself as an "anthro" artist online most people will just assume you draw funky cartoon animals, but if you label yourself as a "furry" artist then people will see you in a whole different light and most likely associate you with being a weirdo. Like other anons have stated here before, it's an image issue plain and simple. Some anons just want to draw anthro animals without instantly being associated with the image of your average gross furry sex addict.

No. 1633830

>>1633826
I agree, you shouldn't label yourself a furry unless you want to be lumped into that fandom. Drawing cute animal crossing esque art is the same as drawing a smirking sparkledog, the art style is the only difference. They're both humanized animal characters.

No. 1633831

>>1633823
Stop trying to colonize all art featuring anthropomorphized animal characters as "furry" to drag them down with you you degenerate, you know just as well as the rest of us that being a "furry" is defined as a lifestyle and a community and "furry art" is meant for that certain group of people. This is just as retarded as claiming a sports team animal mascot costume is a "fursuit".

No. 1633840

>>1633826

this!
unfortunately the word "furry" nowadays is usually associated with sex deviants at best and zoophile predators at worst, so i fully understand why artists who draw sfw anthro animals would be reluctant to use that label. the moment you call yourself a "furry" people will associate you with the fandom whether you actually engage with it or not and people will have preconceived views about you as an artist sadly and not everyone is willing to work through that just to draw cute sfw humanized animals.

No. 1633856

>>1633809
where is this from? this person has never spent a microsend on lc

No. 1633872

I don't care if the account is sfw or nsfw, if someone has a fursona they're a freak to me.

No. 1633896

File: 1689374237708.jpg (Spoiler Image,1.3 MB, 3464x2526, image.jpg)

>>1633856
@cloverykins on ig, posts 4chan mascot shit art and other stuff related to it all over instagram and thrives on the attention from people criticising her 4chanite larp, wait till she ruins the miner's mascot too bringing unnecessary attention to cc lel she probably doesn't even know there is one anyways

No. 1633908

>>1633896
zoomers want to larp as oldfags so bad

No. 1633954

>>1633422
Like this nonny, I'm more concerned about being associated with lc and being seen as a tErF because of my social media audience I guess. If the art server gets made maybe don't advertise that it's connected to here? I also think it might be good to only invite other people via word of mouth kind of thing? Like we could rep people idk. Maybe too gatekeep-y and would kill the discord though…

No. 1633956

>>1633896
I'm gonna alog

No. 1633974

>>1633826
Tbh everyone I’ve seen that calls themselves an “anthro artist” is just a furry artist in denial, lol. Just draw what you want, call yourself a cartoonist or fantasy artist and stop overthinking it

No. 1633983

>>1633908
It sucks because they try really hard to shoehorn lingo while simultaneously having the most retarded and nu-online opinion ever. They're so easily shocked and wowed and become emotionally disturbed by shit we have all grown up with. You can smell someone sheltered and sensitive from years of being shielded and policing everyone else from a mile away.

No. 1634097

>>1633809
I appreciate that it looks nothing like Elsie.

No. 1634298

File: 1689410164465.png (1.46 MB, 828x1792, IMG_5820.PNG)

>>1633896
I found out about this artist recently because she got in drama with another artist I followed, every single person who 'trolls' like this is an attention whore. I hope she gets treatment for her severe BPD. Oh and also she's already screenshot this discussion of her and posted it on her story LOL

No. 1634300

>>1633809
is it considered alog that I want to draw Elsie rip off this cunt's throat with a fork

No. 1634301

>>1634300
Its just fiction, anon.

No. 1634310

>>1634298
>she
Doubt it

No. 1634312

>>1633809
noooooooo not the fucking brad gifs on the main page im crying

No. 1634358

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>>1634300
Her drawings have no substance at all, it's all just for the aesthetics of the culture she knows nothing about just to get instagram likes from her other pretentious edgelord followers and to "own the haters she doesn't care about" lel sorry for derailing the thread with this

No. 1634389

Give the LARPer the fakeboitherottengirl treatment, don't give her the sastifaction.

No. 1634427

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I hate when people call shit like picrel "art journaling", where they just collage some pretty paper and stickers, then add a girl sticker and some random inspirational quote sticker (that might not even be grammatically correct because they're Tim Holtz dupes from Taobao/Aliexpress stores). No theme, nothing of substance being journalled, just pretty collage for the sake of being pretty.

No. 1634429

>>1634358
Wow guys we just got le epic mega trolled by some kid that’s going to kill themselves within 5 years.

No. 1634463

>>1634358
What'd be the point of spamming her mediocre art? Bore us to death? We get cp spam and Null face spam here. Besides all the anons who don't keep up with this thread would just be like "mods, there's some scrote spamming a random hentai character for some reason", no one would even realise that's supposed to be a lolcow.farm personification.

No. 1634464

>>1634427
It's just scrapbooking for people who aren't artistic, not skilled nor creative. Which is fine in my book, not everyone has to be artistic. I just find it funnny more than anything, all those collages look the same because they all use the same products from aliexpress.

No. 1634475

>>1634427
There isn't a linear way to journal.

No. 1634487

>>1634389
This, she's self posting to get attention. Nobody gives a fuck, people like racistuncle and everyone before and after them already did what she's doing and everyone forgot about them immediately after the initial outrage.

No. 1634517

>>1634358
honestly its better to stop talking about her, she's just another 4ch oldfag 15yo larper, there are millions out there and she's clearly attention deprived, so its better to ignore her

No. 1634538

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>>1634517
Picrel is her and she's definitely older than 17/18, but yeah, you're right.

No. 1634561

>>1634538
You can tell she panders to the nazi pedo moids out of selfhate. She needs to get help, they'll never truly see her as someone worthy of respect.

No. 1634564

>>1634538
This is a goddamn selfpost if I ever saw one.

No. 1634570

>>1634538
Go to bed BPDchan you're so desperate for attention from art nonna, I am so sorry your nazi groomers are not giving you enough love.

No. 1634582

File: 1689447172527.webm (Spoiler Image,1.18 MB, 720x1280, 2_5303315309455748970.webm)

>>1634564
>>1634570
This is a screenshot from one of her stories kek

No. 1634602

Hi nonas, Im the same tard from >>1630990 yesterday I got another message via Instagram from an empty profile with the pfp of an old lady asking me if I'm open for commission, I replied yes and she said she want me to draw an animal for $600. I replied knowing what was coming with a "Ok, send me a reference, I take Paypal only by the way" and she sent me a (surprise, surprise) rambling about how she can only send money through Binance and that I should definitely open up an account.
I'm not saying this is a scam but it's so fucking weird it happened two times in a row this week.

No. 1634613

File: 1689450438002.jpeg (1.39 MB, 1242x801, IMG_2233.jpeg)

I found this artist whose style I sadly like but a lot of his subject matter is very young girls… He looks like he’s around 30. Is this weird or am I overthinking it?

No. 1634614

>>1634602
That's a scam, I heard of this happening to other artists' before too, they usually always commision people to draw "their" pets.

No. 1634615

>>1634602
That actually does sound like a scam or a way to drag you into some shitty bitcoin scheme or something. It's very weird for someone to offer $600 for a drawing of "an animal". She's not even a lady, it must be some scrote trying to get something from you.

No. 1634616

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What do nonas think of lore olympus? Was vaguely aware of it before but it fell in my radar and I like some of the colours, composition and backgrounds but the character designs are boring and mostly unrelated to the gods. Apparently the creator is a graphic designer which might explain that. And with Hades' design the mouth and nose are goofily close together I can't unsee Ice King x Princess Bubblegum picrel kek.

I don't wanna read the actual comic though, the story is the run of the mill "inexperienced sheltered good girl and older misunderstood bad boy" wattpad stuff (which is why it's insanely popular yeah, I'm just not into that)

No. 1634617

>>1634615
Yeah what would the average old lady care about bitcoin for, but that was probably to make himself seem more "friendly"

No. 1634624

>>1634602
It’s probably the same person messaging you with multiple accounts.

No. 1634627

>>1634616
the art is very inconsistent

No. 1634629

>>1634613
I don’t think you’re overthinking it, there’s something wrong about a grown man taking pictures/editing these photos of little girls in their nightgowns, on their backs on a bedsheet looking at the camera like that. It sets off the pedo alarm for me

No. 1634630

>>1634616
It’s the new Steven Universe where the fandom fucking hates it but refuses to stop consooming. I can’t personally attest to the quality as I haven’t read it but it attracts a certain type of reader so keep that in mind.

No. 1634631

>>1634613
Big red flag for me

No. 1634632

File: 1689451719983.jpeg (1.09 MB, 1151x1568, IMG_1207.jpeg)

>>1634613
Jared Pedo vibes

No. 1634635

>>1634616

Fuck lore olympus, the art is trash and none of it makes sense. If you listen to any of the creator's interviews she's clearly bullshit her way to the top, she doesn't actually know what she's doing and it shows. The only reason she is where she is now is because she got picked up by webtoons early and hooked a younger crowd. You don't have to read the comic to know that. But y'know. Fuck webtoons in general.

No. 1634762

>>1634310
It's a girl, she's a tif and likes to get called by he/him.

No. 1634770

File: 1689462342150.png (19.56 KB, 456x181, clipboardimage (2).png)

>>1634517
Sorry for bringing this artist up again but she just made a post replying to a farmer from this thread and she sounds so angry kek.

No. 1634771

>>1634762
>>1634770
Stop giving her attention. Nobody cares.

No. 1634774

>>1634771
Hi Cloverykins(hi cow)

No. 1634775

File: 1689462964093.jpg (87.9 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault-4.jpg)

>>1634616
>Ice King x Princess Bubblegum
Fr

No. 1634776

>>1634616
Is Lore Olympus still a thing? I haven't heard of it in years. I don't care about it at all myself but the wattpad self-insert generic romance fantasy definitely sold it for lots of young girls into that stuff. I guess you just have to take it as it is so I'm not really offended by its popularity, it's just not worth it.

No. 1634802

>>1634770
>my post
HAHA hit her where it hurts without even trying

No. 1634803

>>1634802
Samefag but I rarely post itt either, I'm not pretentious at all but she is obviously very touched by what I said, how cute

No. 1634805

>>1634613
How normal do you think it is to spend hours and hours painting portraits of little girls laying in bed at 30 years old?

No. 1634814

>>1634613
i remember seeing one of his paintings and liking it, but i had no idea he mostly painted little girls… yeah, i'm smelling pedo

No. 1634823

>>1634464
I have no problems with scrapbooking, but if no one can tell the theme it's kind of not art journaling, which peeves me.

>>1634475
Absolutely, but the core part of journaling is to express feelings, I see these mish-mash of flowers and papers, random girls, and they expect me to think they're conveying the feelings of random quote sticker like "good things are coming your way" or "be thankful"? It's just so void of anything other than "ooh pretty".

No. 1634824

>>1634602
I saw a reel about this, it's a scam where they "accidentally overpay" you with a payment method that will bounce or whatever, be it a dodgy cheque or a stolen card, the money appears to go through, you send them back the "overpayment" then the money they sent initially is cancelled.
So no money and you're out of whatever you sent back.

I think they pretend to be normal people getting pet commissions so your guard is down

No. 1634829

>>1631017
If someone cancels a charge directly with their bank, that can impact their ability to use that card in future since the card is seen as compromised by a fraudulent charge, I only learned this a few days ago (after many times seeing advice given out about cancelling charges with credit/bank cards, actually a bad idea)
But 1. That's not what's happening, it's the scam I posted directly above
2. You are better not dealing with a customer who has payment issues, anything other than your preferred safe payment method should be avoided. Even if they're not a fully fledged scammer anyone who starts trying to pay you in weird ways is most guaranteed to be a broke bitch or bastard who has no intention of actually paying you, or of getting the money back after receiving the goods. So it's either really bad or bad. Your own payment method of choice or bust.

No. 1634870

>>1634805
Yeah… I kind of want to kill him after seeing these. It gives me a sick feeling in my stomach

No. 1634914

File: 1689477508814.jpg (554.23 KB, 569x1338, 1689473456024.jpg)

I'm really into artdolls and just generally enjoy mixed media creations. I pretty much can appreciate anything crafty. But just like many art styles artdolls can get very formulaic so I've kind of been having a pleasant surprise finding different styles on my feed. And I'm starting to have a growing fondness for troll dolls. Theres just something about them that is so cute and whimsical and unlocks my inner goblin.

No. 1634919

>>1634616
If you ever do read it be prepared for incredibly inconsistent work, and persephone being sized like a literal child next to hades. It also gets boring very fast and I stopped reading early on out of disinterest.

No. 1634920

>>1634613
The painting with the little girl with the greennish hair screams pedo to me. So yeah, you aren't overthinking it

No. 1634942

>>1634613
red flag red flag red flag red flag

No. 1634993

>>1631206
I’m hitting the 300 mark soon, on my nsfw art folder. I would like to post my male focus/female pov on a platform, but my anatomy is not good enough to get attention.

No. 1635002

>>1634627
I think the creator hires multiple artists to work on it for her.
>>1634914
I really want to get into art dolls. Do you make them nonna? Any resources you can share or artist recs? I don’t know where to start.
>>1634920
That one instantly stood out to me…creepy

No. 1635067

>>1634993

People like consistent content more than they do anatomy don't let people here convince you it's the most important thing in the universe, so many big artists are terrible at it yet still just crawl up in numbers by posting some shit every couple days

No. 1635068

I’m witnessing an artist quickly devolve into a lolcow and I wouldn’t be surprised if she gets a thread here soon.

No. 1635070

info, nonna? you can't just give us a nothing burger

No. 1635103

>>1634613
Old male artists who draw young girls exclusively are always a damn red flag. Which sucks since I like drawing cute girls myself but am hesitant to show it on the 'net out of fear of it being potentially becoming wank material for lolicon degenerates. I hate them so much.

No. 1635113

>>1635070
I don’t want to out her since we used to be friendly and I feel bad for her. I just hopes she stops her insane behavior soon.

No. 1635116

>>1635113
You have to name her but what is she doing, precisely? Anything milky?

No. 1635192

>>1634616
I genuinely think it's that popular because it was one of the earliest western webtoon that was posting consistently with a very distinct artstyle. Doesn't mean it's really good art or story wise tho.

No. 1635247

Is Toyhouse not allowing new users to sign up at all? I know you need to ask for codes if you want a free account but I thought you could sign up with a paid account at any time. It's not letting me do anything without a fucking code despite me wanting to give them money. I've trawled through their website and Google and there's nothing useful at all.

No. 1635335

>>1635247
As far as I know it's always been via invite only - having a paid account will allow you to generate invite codes, but I've never heard of the site allowing you to sign up at any time by paying.

No. 1635387

>>1635247
toyhouse has always been invite only, even if you want to pay.

No. 1635407

File: 1689529923719.png (415.55 KB, 468x810, monster high.png)

idk how to link the video because i'm retarded and i'm probably overreacting but her smug attitude made me dislike the designs more
>ironic "oh no i ruined them and ppl hate me"
>"uhm akshully i did a great job on the characters i designed"
>"let me tell u how character design for TV works u uneducated pleb, it wasn't even us who did it, they sent us ready designs"
>"i'm just here for a paycheck anyways"
like geez learn to take criticism and stop acting like a smug 4th grader

No. 1635558

>>1630889
>>1630936
Is she really serious? She always came off as a parody of art tutorial channels. I'm not joking. I thought it was some kind of dry humor or anti-comedy joke channel.

No. 1635614

>>1635407
its so sad that monster high went from cool, diverse monsters that actually look ''threatening'' to uwu blobs. I am still salty about what they did to the abominable girl, she went from cool and strong, with sharp face features to another moe girl with a round baby face, gross.

No. 1635618

I finished it. Can someone tell me where do i even start with rendering? I feel so confused and ovewhelmed with it. I wanna start doing studies, but i dunno what to even do, do i just copy photographs i like? unlike with drawing, where i can see what part of the anatomy is wonky, i just cant tell what i should work on. I am super confused as to where do i start with rendering too, color? lighting? brushes? it's so confusing.
posting here because i would rather my drawing drown in the sea of threads than stay up forever on a slow thread on m,sorry

No. 1635619

File: 1689544945382.png (Spoiler Image,3.6 MB, 1520x2136, rat race resized.png)

>>1635618
ah, dropped the pic

No. 1635622

>>1635618
>>1635619
It's really good! I would say yes, copy photographs you like. Do you have a certain style you're going for? Also, the anatomy is really good. I think the composititon is just a little awkward, but it's nothing you can pix now at this point without majorly drawing over it. But it's not something that's ruining the drawing. As it gets closer to the bottom, maybe make the mass of the crowd darker to suggest deeper space? And are you okay with paintovers?

No. 1635633

>>1635622
thanks! I will try to do greyscale/color studies.
>I think the composititon is just a little awkward, but it's nothing you can pix now at this point without majorly drawing over it
yeah, its my second drawing with any kind of composition, so its bound to be awkward for a while
>And are you okay with paintovers?
totally! go ahead if you want.

No. 1635664

File: 1689548337731.jpg (3.91 MB, 2894x2843, 1689546496631.jpg)

>>1635002
Ive never made a successful artdoll, I'm far better at sculpting than sewing so all my dolls have been fails. As for tutorials and help, theres not much you can go off of. Bubblyleaf and kaypea are two regular posting artists on yt, creatures of nat doesn't really post much anymore, and art of vaelys post very infrequently. The most advice/tutorials I've ever seen is on deviantart on old artdoll groups. It would be good to check there even though they are no longer active. Theres a ton of cool old school artists whose work to check out but I can't list them all. A bit of a sperg out but I put together an autistic collage of some of the artists I like.
Theres varying skill levels and styles.
Hikigane, steintroll, furrykami, litmade, red river road, gakman creatures, Noyra, sweetsign, lisatoms, and fuego fatuo who I follow on insta, theres also woodsplitter lee a pretty oldschool artist shown and riker creatures. I dont know if riker still makes dolls, there are old buyers beware of her online. Last I saw she has a Facebook. But you can look at her old stuff on deviantart. I also dont believe lisatoms even makes dolls anymore, I think I remember her posting that she was no longer making them for a number of reasons. Darkwood is also a super skilled one that I didnt add. Theres tons more but I cant think of them off the top of my head, the ones I listed are the more prominent ones that I like. Theres a ton of russian ones as well as a pretty good Japanese community of them that I dont know much about since I dont have twitter. I would greatly recommend looking at their old work to get a good idea of their skill.

No. 1635705

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>>1634919
>persephone being sized like a literal child next to hades
Plus she acts like a child. A petite woman protag can be fine but she's made to act so naive, plus the huge age and size diff, I guess the author has a fetish. This redraw picrel made me kek

>>1631240
Yep. I did a character design course and ofc there were gendies, including the classic short doughy tif and hulking neanderthal tim, and all their art is mid but one girl was especially annoying and I hope she's ngmi.

She's an enby twansmasc weeb furry fujo who used to be a regular lesbian with her gf before I knew her but they trooned together. She's so sheltered that the first time someone said her art isn't great she left class to cry. Now she's in animation school and judging by her posts can polish a turd but her character design is still high school tier. Very stiff and bland and she does the eyes hovering above bangs thing. The only time there seems to be improvement is when she does fanart, but ofc captioning it with awww he baby, he is my son uwu. This bitch is like 23 btw. As time goes on I'm kinda actively wanting her to fail, am I a bad person kek

No. 1635722

>>1635407
I enjoy her art but this was insufferable.

No. 1635726

>>1635664
AYRT, thank you for the recs, I love all of the examples in that collage! I’m not great at sewing either so I know I’m going to struggle but it’s such an interesting art form to me.

No. 1635745

>>1635705
Who made that redraw I need to know

No. 1635776

>>1635745
Somebody called miaumisina on reddit

No. 1635800

>>1633473
im almost in the same exact boat, nonna. was deadset on working on animation and dedicated so much time and energy to my "dream". then i managed to get into another creative field and the works hours and job security are steady and im seeing the animation industry in shambles now. feels like a dodged a bullet and i'm happy to make art in my free time

No. 1636285

Is newgrounds still good for artists? I am thinking about making an account on there but would be disappointed if there wouldn't be any engagement at all

No. 1636297

>>1635614
I'm still angry they made Frankie a they/them tard. She was a favorite

No. 1636419

>>1636285
From what i've experienced it's art scene is mostly dominated by coomers like most other art communities, so if its not coomerbait or porn then you'd likely not get much attention.

No. 1636429

>>1636285
So much coomerism, but as an artist who doesn't do NSFW stuff at all, newgrounds was the only place of the ones I've tried where I got a steady flow of nice comments and other artists being interested and interacting with my work beyond just likes and upvotes. Apparently there's a lot of people on there who hate that it has turned into a porn and fetish site so they will downvote everything they see that has nudity, but that doesn't stop the porn from overflowing the site, unfortunately. Even the nice comments weren't enough to keep me around in the end.

No. 1636442

>>1635407
They all look so boring and sanitised now, she might act all smug but she really did downgrade them, dressing them like tween nerds in 2013 (I should know, that was me in 2013 kek) and not like cool monsters so it's ironic to say these designs are for "teens today". Y2k is coming back sure but for juicy couture and low rise jeans, not for multiple awkward layers and clashing patterns. The only thing I like is the varying body types, though she made all their calves thicker than their thighs which looks dumb. And sadly the dumbest thing, they/theming Frankie, you can say does actually appeal to teens today.

No. 1636495

>>1635407
The dolls are a mixed bag but the show itself is just ascended annoying queer headcanons. All the characters have been gutted out and replaced with fanon tier characterization. The show bible leaked and people were buttmad about Lagoona being confirmed straight when literally every other character in the show Bible is a flavor of queer and gender woo woo. Also Frankie being a themlet sucks, people get autistic when you misgender her even if you’re taking about the doll (it’s a piece of plastic who cares). Not to mention the ugly ass fan art the new changes birthed.

No. 1636516

>>1636495
don't forget that Twyla has autism now kek

No. 1636527

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>>1635407
>i'm just here for a paycheck anyways
Yeah, we realized you retarded fucking moron, if you actually cared about the characters and not just the paycheck you'll actually make them interesting and consistent. Lagoona which was one of my favorites now looks like it was colored by a fucking child. Why the fuck would you color a character related to water fucking pink??

No. 1636534

>>1636527
Don't be mean anon, they're just bring inclusionary to colorblind designers (it's affirmative action)

No. 1636547

File: 1689620359062.jpg (1.6 MB, 3000x3000, ejandab.jpg)

>>1634914
I love them too nonna, I'm really surprised to see that there's communities for them now and that makes me happy. My favorites are AnyaBoz and CreaturesfromEl/Ellen Jewett, though El does more sculpture and less mixed media these days.

No. 1636556

>>1636429
>>1636419
Oh, damn, I see. I was looking for a website where I could upload my artwork and connect with other artists which wouldn't be just about liking each other posts but ig newgrounds isn't really the one.

No. 1636581

>>1636556
Unironically nonna, the only place I've found to have what you're looking for is discord, but like discords from professional artists who teach classes. Everywhere on the web is kind of shit for artists right now and no professional replacement has materialized yet. You either have small crappy websites run by hobbyists with barely any userbase, social media sites which are flooded with people who act like they've never been socialized, or regular discords that exist to contain terminally online kids. It's bleak out there.

No. 1636669

When it comes to hosting a zine, do you think people prefer contributing to digital or physical zines?

No. 1636674

>>1636669
I've never hosted a zine myself but I've participated in plenty and have modded two. Honestly to me it depends on how organized and diligent the mod team is.

Digital zines are "easier" because you don't need to worry about printing costs and physical merchandise, as well as not having to worry about stuff like the art being converted to CMYK for printing and not all artists will have experience with converting it correctly and yadda yadda. Digital fanzines are best for beginner zine mods and for projects you want to keep small either for money or time reasons.

Physical zines tend to be the public's favourite because everyone likes a nice fancy booklet with keychains and stickers and all sorts of physical merch, but organizing those is a nightmare and demands a team of serious and organized mods. It also demands quite a bit of money and not to mention time and dedication.

Talking about the fanbase, from what I've seen people tend to prefer contributing to physical zines because well, the contribution tends to be a free book and everyone loves some free merch.

No. 1636676

>>1636669

everyone i know who has gone to appear on zines have only done so on physical zines because those usually have more money going on (in case it's a profit or half-half) or because of like >>1636674 saod, free merch bundles.

No. 1636682

>>1636674
>>1636676
I see, thank you for the advice. For the fanzine I plan to host, I want to do physical but only a book. I don't wish to do pins, badges, keychains, and stickers because I feel it would detract from the main focus. That and I want to keep it simple. For those who did do physical book zines, what printing services were used most? I was thinking of mixam since I've used it before but I want to get a better idea of what you all use?

No. 1636685

>>1636682
(Samefag as >>1636674)
You're welcome, good luck with your project. While physical zines demand some extra effort and responsiblity it does help to cut back on the merch. On most zines I've been in including one of the two I've modded the merch was usually the most time consuming bit particularly if it was shit like enamel pins. If you want to do merch then at best do one or two sticker sheets and leave it at that. The public loves merch but as you said nowadays it has become so excessive that it defeats the purpose of making a zine project if people have their eyes on the merch first. Not to mention to absolute slog that was not only having to go through artist applications but also all of the different merch ones and having to design which ones had styles that best fit which merch types.

Sadly I can't say much on the printing part execution wise as that task always belonged to a specific mod for that function so I was out of the nitty gritty.

Do you already have some specs decided, anon? Like approximate participant numbers, if the cover has to have any fancy material? Binding type? If the zine is A4 or A5 etc? Usually those things helped the teams I worked with in deciding better services because then we had more or less a plan and we'd only have to check prices later.

No. 1636696

>>1636682
The last zine I was part of did do small runs of stickers as bonuses for people who helped fund them via ko-fi so that's something to consider. Stickers are probably the most manageable merch and if you have the supplies you could do them from home too.

No. 1636706

>>1636685
If I may say, I find the merchandising aspect of zines displeasing to be honest. I feel like zines of the now have a feeling of being far more commercialized and consooming based with the focus on excess of merchandise like pins, acrylic charms, stickers, plushes, etc. etc. rather than having a focus on the shared creation of fanworks with love and heart into it. I don't like it. Though that's probably because I love doujins so I prefer fancomics over anything.
As for specifications. I haven't sent out the recruitment form so I don't have an exact idea of the amount of participants. I've gotten interest but assuming there will be at least 4-12 participants. However regarding the participants submissions, those will be selected depending on the amount of participants and amount of pages each respective participant's submission requires within a <88 page limit.
I plan to keep it simple, so there will be a limited run of <40 books depending on the amount of orders. The size will be your run of the mill manga 5.5" x 8.5" size, 60lb uncoated paper, and a gloss cover.

No. 1636708

>>1636495
Especially about frankie, the way morons online passive aggressively "them" you like it's not a piece of fucking plastic. The designs are ugly, the only reason why people vehemently defend them is because they cater to the gender freaks. I also hate the massive cankles they all seem to have.

No. 1636714

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>The show bible leaked
I searched and found this? From the tidbits, apparently
>Clawdeen is gay
>Cleo is ~pan~ (spicy bi) and will date themlet Frankie
>new male character called Ian Pundulu who is gay
Comments saying it's fake but this account has another post of "proof", the pdf they got it from was dated 2021 and the author is Lauren Rose but idk if they edited that.

>>1636708
It's a good marketing strategy, now any criticism can be waved away by diehard fans going nooo but they're so progressive and gendie pandering, they can do no wrong!

No. 1636715

>>1636495
Samefag was replying to >>1636714

No. 1636747

>>1636714
>clawdeen is gay
i hate that they made her gay when the original intention was for her to be the only non boy crazy protagonist. It sucks that we cant have shit as women.

No. 1636761

>>1636714
She's already dating Frankie in the show. "Its for kids" yet fandom twt was full of 20 somethings "literally crying" over cartoons kissing cause its "very important that kids see blah blah blah". I hate how western animation for girls got boiled down to "representation" before having a sense of style and overarching ambitious plots by people who can't write past bullet points.

No. 1636838

>>1636714
I don't really see a problem with them being gay unless that's all there is to their character

No. 1636844

>>1636838
Yeah you'd hope they'd handle it just as another aspect of their character. But the story doesn't seem very complex, sounds like >>1636761 has watched the show, so I guess it is just hamfisted. Make characters gay in a kids cartoon as as a normal, neutral thing challenge (impossible). Like marceline and bubblegum, they're so cute and don't have ugly ass redesigns by someone who doesn't care about the IP.

No. 1636902

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Looking at the dolls, the hair and faces are done better. Without the unappealing cluttered mismatched outfits they could be cute. Didn't like gen2 outfits either tbf. But then looking at the 3D models for the show, the art style for gen 3 is straight up ugly. And I read somewhere maybe they were trying to compete with Shadow High with the new softer babyish look?

No. 1636940

>>1636902
gen 3 faces make them look like ayy lmaos, that draculaura belongs in rosswell

No. 1636942

>>1636902
Gen 2 is boring and too sweet/cute looking, gen 3 is too cluttered, too cute again, and loses the character of the girls. Nothing is topping gen 1.

No. 1636985

>>1636902
Gen 1 dolls can look a little too cunty and walleyed as the fags say, but their outfits and facial proportions are the best. Gen 2 looks generic as fuck and Gen 3s look like generic Barbie dolls but have slightly better clothes. The ideal MH dolls would have tweaked Gen 1 faces with 3's hair and outfits.

No. 1637004

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Aspen_eyes has made multiple tweets exposing vani/luxebytes for still being a shitty person. Vani went private and hasn't made any real rebuttal other than "you guys are only listening to one side of the story" and something about her zodiac, or whatever.

No. 1637005

>>1634616
I hate seeing it, the characters look so generic and I'd rather read a myth adaptation that visually plays with the culture it comes from. Like even Disney managed to take some inspiration from Greek art and this just looks like random US highschool/college drama bullshit with a self-insert from an author who thought Disney's Hades was hot. Also I'd rather see the Persephone character as somebody with a more mature character and also I don't think putting this in a modern corporate environment (I think???) makes much sense considering it's a myth that mostly matters to farmer societies.

No. 1637006

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No. 1637007

>>1635705
Why does it feel like the author of LO chose the Hades and Persephone myth so she could get away with a poorly written love story between a big mopey older man and her borderline underaged oppai loli self insert? That's the vibe I'm getting from this artwork.

No. 1637008

>>1634613
Kitschy paintings of children is a genre and can be harmless but this dude is either a pedo or has pedo buyers. As has already been said, the picture of the green-haired girl with the shoulder strap is a major red flag. The second one in top row with the adultified "come hither" pose is also gross af and the way he generally has a focus on the little girls being in nightgowns in bed is a red flag.

No. 1637012

>>1634602
Yeah that's a version of the pet commission scam, annoyingly wide-spread at this point on insta.

No. 1637019

>>1632451
burned furns were right

No. 1637057


No. 1637058

>>1637057
post screenshots idiot

No. 1637064

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>>1637057
>>1637058

NTA but its basically pedo8 saying he regrets being a degenerate pedo even though hes still a degenerate pedo making loli and coomer garbage, and most of the replies being from his coomer fandom saying how its "perfectly normal" to have pedo thoughts from time to time, and making the same "lolis are just pixels" excuse. I want to kill these fuckers istg.

No. 1637098

>>1637064
Kek why even bring it up then if his audience doesn't care

No. 1637105

>>1637098
A large chunk of his audience is underaged.

No. 1637119

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>>1625066
This is absolutely fair to me. The leg guy is a weirdo for sure but how can the same people witch hunt them(her?) for posting art about their(her?) leg while retweeting cutesy or nsfw art about chopping their own tits off in the same breath

No. 1637135

>>1636902
Gen 1 is the best. They’re unique and represent their monsters well. The transmutations to gen 3 focus on real skin color (like humanized ponies but without their color staying the same) and they’re too human except for Clawdeen is an anthro now.

I enjoyed the original designs but was too old for the target group, but I thought this and Every After High got cancelled for good.

No. 1637136

>>1637105
What the fuck? That's terrible.

No. 1637138

>>1637064
Who is this artist?

No. 1637139

>>1636902
The makeup and eye colours are a little better but the face proportions make them too childish. I would've thought they're appealing to 10 year olds now not teens.

No. 1637145

>>1637138
He's gone under a few names over the years but he's most commonly gone by minus8. He's a late thirties South Korean man most known for being an extremely prolific coomer. His simplistic, cartoony art style and obsession with children's media like Nintendo attract lots of kids to his degenerate, often pedophilic artwork. That and how long he's been around has given him a reputation for being Baby's First Rule 34. He also happens to be hilariously self-loathing and wracked with so much pedo guilt that he periodically wipes his accounts and "leaves the internet" only to return under another name later. He's admitted to being a pedophile several times but his art is so popular that there's more than one Twitter dedicated to archiving as much of it as possible.

No. 1637150

>>1637105
His entire account is cartoon porn though. It should be obvious that there's something wrong with him and minors shouldn't follow that shit anyway. I just wonder why he wanted to "stop hiding" instead of actually doing something about his mental illness

No. 1637167

>>1629542
>I don't know what to do
Turn off your laptop and phone and go do some homework to your spotify playlist. Read a book. Do some drawing. Fucking gen z I swear

No. 1637178

>>1636747
Clawdeen is still female ?

No. 1637184

>>1633151
Nona this is gorgeous can I get the artist's name please?

No. 1637205

>>1637201
He made the original iirc, zonetan remade it and was the more "popular" one that was all over the internet.

No. 1637212

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>>1633151
i know this post is 5 days old but if you want to learn how to start painting digitally you should check out marco bucci's 10 minutes to better painting series: (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLmXZMqb_9sbNLM83NrM005vRQHw1yTKn) his stuff is really helpful and simple to understand!

No. 1637223

>>1637184
NTA. Dean Cornwell. There's similar artists like Mead Shaeffer (his mentor), Saul Tepper (was a student under Shaeffer).

No. 1637247

>>1630109
Nah, she was friends with a group who exposed TMNT storyboarders for drawing yaoi incest crap in their private discord group (pretty sure it was the group of that ebegger succulentbud) IIRC. Long story short she realized too late that these guys were bad news with all the obsessive moral fagging and constant drama and tried to leave but they exposed her in revenge or something. Not entirely sure if succulentbud and her cronies were responsible for the TMNT thing or if it was her group in the first place but it definitely was one of those crazed dramawhores who ended up eating each other alive IIRC.

No. 1637261

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I hate when I see an artist who's style I like but they're an obvious huge fucking coomer, even if they don't actually make NSFW art. E.g. Omar Dogan. It always leads to an eventual downgrade in art as well because they only draw to be horny.

No. 1637264

>>1637261
Samefag but weirdly enough, I'm usually fine with non-NSFW coomer art if I can tell it was made by a woman. When women make something that looks coomer-y you can tell it's just because they though it was sexy and cool.

No. 1637272

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>>1635067
Yeah you’re actually right, I still am going to start a nsfw twitter account. But I’m still improving my anatomy for the sake of my dignity as a artist.

No. 1637317

>>1637007
That’s exactly what this 40 year old woman did and to add Hades is based after her celeb crush, Mads Mikkelsen.

No. 1637318

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for any nonnas that post their art publicly: what do you get out of it? i've just started recently, and it's been helping me care more about composition/actually finishing pieces, but i'm trying not to care too much about stats/whatever (it is nice to get recognized though, but i'm trying not to make it my whole reason)

No. 1637326

>>1637318
I pretty much just want to share my art with my mutuals and the odd fun follower really. I've reached the point where I don't care about stats anymore so I just want to share my art and have fun.

No. 1637359

>>1637318
>what do you get out of it?
moneeyyyy babeyyy lol. I've been posting my stuff online for a few years and have been able to open commissions a few times and make enough money to fill the holes in my wallet that my piece of shit job at the time or employment benefits were digging. It's never been much but it's been enough to pay for a month of rent (eurofag + bumfuck nowhere so my rent is not astronomical) here or there or a phone/internet/electricity bill or a set of new tires.

No. 1637362

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>>1637318
I want to make money but I’m horrible with keeping up at social media. It’s hard to stay in touch with other art communities if you don’t have some online presence nowadays.
Posting Sakizou because she was an artist I looked up to in college and was pretty popular for Lolita-based art. Your image reminded me of her.

No. 1637365

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>>1637362
Dumping a few more. She did a lot of themed fashion designs too. Fruits and gemstones were pretty big back then.

No. 1637367

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No. 1637381

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>>1637367
Last one, I don’t want to spam. There’s something about old Japanese 00’s art that has charm. Maybe it’s because it’s traditional. Ocean in Space has her 90’s shoujo look but this reminds me more of josei or fashion design. I’d love to see a modern look.

No. 1637536

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how do you achieve nice figures in your drawings? I struggle with them feeling too stiff, specially when its poses that dont have an obvious or exagerated line of action. I really admire artists like pic rel who can make simple poses have dynamism and weight.

No. 1637545

>>1637365
this is gorgeous. I would love to see any other special ones you'd like to share nonna

No. 1637617

is it really that bad if i really wanna draw only skinny or fit characters? i am able to draw fat people, i just don't wanna do it

No. 1637619

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No. 1637626

>>1637617
No, nonna, you should draw anything that makes you happy. Don't feel like you have to draw people you don't want to because of twitter schizos.

No. 1637632

File: 1689750345538.jpeg (119.35 KB, 1028x1055, Dynamic posing tip.jpeg)

>>1637536
A simple trick is to make sure the head, shoulders and hips are not parallel to each other. Like in picrel

No. 1637662

>>1633809
this is the only real artist in this thread, sorry

No. 1637673

>>1637662
If you have shit taste and speed-read these threads, then sure.

No. 1637677

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Does drawing erotic content count as coombrainshit or nah? I generally want to draw out what happens in my head. However, a part of me feels ashamed about it since even implying sex is sinful in some places…

No. 1637683

>>1637677
Draw what you want, don't be ashamed. It's your skill and your pen.

No. 1637692

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>>1637677
i agree draw what you want
>>1637632
thanks, now that i look at it its very mild but noticeable.
Also, fuck i love rkgk artists, i find their art way more interesting than the rendermaxxing anime turds that are extremely popular. I hope i can someday achieve this level of anatomy mastery.

No. 1637695

>>1637677
This is honestly kinda sweet.

No. 1637700

File: 1689761997657.png (144.38 KB, 831x750, Fsz8H4tacAAcjrm.png)

>>1637692
Couldn't agree more anon! It's much harder to pin down the fundamentals in a handful of quick strokes than to make a pile of dogshit lineart and sweep it under the rug with some flashy rendering. See picrel, it may look flat and plain to a layartist but to anyone beyond the beginner phase you can immediately recognise that the artist has a great stronghold on their fundamentals. I actually kind of want to start a thread solely for rkgk art on this site (although I'd probably take issue with art newbies sneaking their favourite tiktok artists' shit ass sketches in kek)

No. 1637708

Hey nonas, what resource would you for someone who doesn't have a lot of time/energy for rigorous practice? I work full time and draw to relax but I've recently hit a wall in my abilities and it pisses me off.

>>1637318
This is wonderful, do you have source?

No. 1637712

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>>1637700
>I actually kind of want to start a thread solely for rkgk art on this site
please do! personally i love the rkgk that looks like a less refined anime still, like pic rel. I love how fluid it looks.

No. 1637749

>>1637708
What do you wanna do? I know you said no rigorous practice but are you ok with slowly working on studies? That's also an option. You can slowly chip away with finishing art pieces too.

>>1637677
Personally I put a line in between erotica and straight up coomer degen porn. Your pic rel is pretty close to erotica imo.

No. 1637777

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>>1637712
Here's the link anon! Took me a while to figure out since I'm relatively newfag, but this should do the job.

>>>/m/309256

No. 1637782

>>1637700
Can I get a link to the artist? This is really nice

No. 1637785

>>1637692
unfortunately the rendermaxxing is more flashy and eye catching and people nowadays are mindbroken by tiktok algorithms and don't have enough attention span to appreciate simple art with strong fundamentals

No. 1637791

>>1637700
Is this supposed to be good fundamentals? It's not bad, but the jawline is either not lining up from his ear to his chin, or the artist is insecure in that area, the neck is too long and what's even up with the ear? Definitely a lot of insecurity hidden with a bunch of undefined lines.

No. 1637792

File: 1689772126266.jpg (3.16 MB, 1313x2780, kyokesuke-1257973485210492929-…)

Does anyone know of an artist with a similar rendering style? i saw this study and fell in love, i love how ''seamless'' it looks.
>>1637785
i would love more rendermaxxing artists with rkgk skills, but i think most rkgk artists are animators so they probably dont have as much time to dedicate to learning flashy rendering techniques. My goal is rkgk drawing skills with rendermaxxer painting skills. Its gonna be a rough journey.

No. 1637800

>>1637749
if you could recommend something that kinda gives you a schedule and some goals to reach i think that would be helpful. minimizing the planning stage and maximizing the doing (practicing) one. hope this makes sense

No. 1637802

>>1637782
Sure, they’re private though which sucks ass

https://twitter.com/gisadannosuchi

No. 1637807

File: 1689773719149.jpeg (86.83 KB, 1098x1163, 2d7b40fe-f53b-4183-9b8e-d6cf78…)

>>1637791
>”The jawline is not lining up from his ear to his chin”
This tells me all I need to know about your anatomy knowledge, anon. Real people don’t have pointy jaws like a damn anime character, it’s clear to me that they’re representing the skin between the chin and the hyoid bone. As for the ear, it’s a sketch. An rkgk. Literally what we’ve been discussing. Representing complex forms with quick lines that give a solid general impression. It’s not supposed to be a perfect scientific study. I swear…

No. 1637814

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>>1637807
you are not wrong but there is some funky anatomy because the neck is so much farther forward than it should be. this person is obviously skilled but they should practice laying down a skeleton foundation at least because they are not feeling it out

No. 1637817

>>1637545
I’ll try not to fill up the thread but I’ll find a few more for you.
>>1637677
That’s erotic and sweet. Pinups would fall into that line I think but no one does pinups anymore. I found one FFXIV artist who does and she only draws women too.
>>1637700
What’s RKGK mean? Lines, animation, is it a company?

No. 1637819

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>>1637817
The sheer use of black here is amazing.

No. 1637820

File: 1689775429068.jpeg (100.91 KB, 420x600, IMG_8995.jpeg)

>>1637819
Tea Lolita

No. 1637825

File: 1689775711878.jpeg (151.4 KB, 495x700, IMG_8996.jpeg)

>>1637820
Fruit tart

No. 1637826

File: 1689775757595.jpeg (183.55 KB, 565x800, IMG_8998.jpeg)

>>1637825
Matcha latte

No. 1637827

File: 1689775792150.jpeg (210.93 KB, 565x800, IMG_8997.jpeg)

>>1637826
Earl Grey

No. 1637839

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No. 1637868

File: 1689780613754.jpeg (59.19 KB, 485x600, kashima.jpeg)

>>1637814
Doesn't rkgk just mean rakugaki as in doodle? Rough sketch? What's it being used as now? Just pieces that haven't been rendered to hell and back?

>>1637819
So beautiful!! I remember seeing Sakizo's homepage way back. Another artist I liked was Kashima(Echo).

No. 1637869

>>1637807
Kek, if you think I was referring to him not having a pointy jaw you are wrong. Either the artist intended the line to show where his jawline is supposed to start, or it's just a random line with no purpose.

No. 1637905

>>1637817
>>1637868
Rkgk just refers to a Japanese abbreviation meaning scribble, graffiti or sketch. You’ll often see artists using it on Twitter alongside their simpler sketches, although these days the meaning has been warped to mean non-rendered, B&W or incomplete stuff. Which I personally don’t mind as I’m tired of over coloured gunk on my feed. I like clean and I like simple.

No. 1637912

>>1637807
nta, but nonnie, what? when we follow the jawline this "skin" is protruding too much, it looks more like the underneath of his jaw bone at an angle. and that'd mean the left side of his jaw is uneven, it's placed lower than where it should be. it's a nitpick ofc, but it doesn't disprove that nonna's sense of anatomy at all

No. 1637975

>>1637807
Your jawline is connected to where the bottom of your ear, even if you have a soft jawline. They were trying to draw the jawline with that line, but it's too high up. I think they were going for a perspective where you see under his chin though, but the only thing that's throwing it off is the way the furthest eyelash is on the same level as the one closest to us. The lineart is really pretty though.
>>1637839
I love this nona! Maybe add a link to adobe color for finding color palettes as well?

No. 1638018

Have any of you ever joined an RP group with art focus? What was your experience like? I'm tired of only drawing my own OCs but I can't find much info on how they are supposed to play out. Most of the groups I find advertising on twitter have pre-servers that run for around a month and I can't imagine what happens inside of them to make the final decision possible. Is it usually very cliquey and difficult to get into or am I too anxious about it?

No. 1638027

>>1638018
Based on all the drama I would see back in the day on Deviantart with art rp groups, you're probably better off finding specific friends to directly RP with. Of course it's possible to find a nice group, but you're more likely going to end up in a messy one.

No. 1638034

>>1638018
The issue with RP groups, particularly pre-established ones, is that I personally find them hard to get in. Everyone already knows each other and the lore going on as well as each others' OCs and not everyone is super mega willing to get to know yours or fill you in. Sure, there are some that do and that have nice people, but those are rare. Those groups also tend to become cliquey, particularly if there's any person that can be considered "popular" in the mix. Everyone flocks around them and it can be hard to RP if you're not "in". Finally, those spaces are ripe for drama. They tend to attract all sorts of delusional genderspecials who whine about anything and everything and are ready to start discourse, as well as attention whores and the occasional mary-sue-haver with protagonist syndrome. The list goes on.

Source: I've been in a total of 9 different RP groups across three fandoms. 7 of them faded into obscurity in less than a year. One is still kicking but it's a shadow of its former self and filled with cliques and attention whores, and the other is semi-active but not much, a bit cliquey also.

If you want to RP it's best to form your own little group. Grab some friends, make a server, and done.

No. 1638056

>>1638027
Oh, I wasn't on deviantart so I didn't know they had such a bad reputation… But I also don't have friends that have time for or would be interested in such things, that's why I thought it would be easier and less embarrassing to find strangers that do want to ship OCs and whatever else.

>>1638034
That's what I was afraid of, so I've mostly been looking at new groups with a pre-determined runtime, but I guess those could run into the same issues eventually. But was it no fun at all? Since you joined so many, I assume it must've been good at least for a while?

No. 1638083

>>1638056

Samefag >>1638034

Some were fun, others were not. It all really depends on the people of the group and how much you're willing to try to fit in, as well as how much drama-prone the group is. For example I've been in one group that almost didn't have any drama, but it was super closed off because of how cliquey it was (it was a group open to public but the "core" was composed of people who were already friends so they mostly only chatted with and RPed among each other while the "outsiders" either struggled trying to keep up or RPed with each other essentially forming another clique). Meanwhile, that group I mentioned that's still up and kicking is quite welcoming and has a pretty big number of people, but it has discourse at least once a month because of that. During events it becomes extremely exhausting because of the amount of whining and annoying drama.

If you really wanna try, I'd say to first see if the people seem reasonable. Try to avoid groups with too many people, and try to avoid groups with minors as well. I say that because most of the RP groups I've been in that welcomed minors were so strict and prude that they might as well become a cult church already. Stuff like you not being able to mention "boob" on the chat without getting yelled at by a mod because "The minors!!11!! the server has childrem!!!". Also read the group rules. A reasonable group is going to have pretty basic rules.

No. 1638100

Opinions about Artfight? I seen some popular artist joining it and I was thinking of joining too, but something tells me it's not worth my time.

No. 1638111

>>1638100
I did it last year, if you've got the time and do it casually it's nice and fun. Make sure to only post images matching the effort you will put in, I only did quicker simpler drawings compared to my usual 20h+ drawings because I'm not gonna put that much effort into a random persons OC, so posting my real finished art would be false advertising kek

No. 1638123

>>1638111
I made that mistake kek. Luckily only two people attacked me and that's it. It's fun in theory but so many artists are just posting some shitty doodle while attacking better artists expecting free high quality pieces. For me it's a bit exhausting.

No. 1638154

>>1638083
I see! thank you for sharing your insights, I feel like I know what to look out for now. I'll just try one that seems good and I'll leave if the people turn out to be too weird.

>>1638100
In my opinion it's only fun if you know the people you're drawing for. I used to revenge anyone as long as their characters looked interesting, but putting as much as 2-3 hours into a piece only to get a "thankss" from a stranger wasn't really fulfilling. Although other times you could tell how excited they were and that was fun, but it's not something you can count on.

No. 1638212

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>>1637800
Consider how many hours of a day do you have free, or how many hours of a day are you willing to give for art. You can take inspiration from other people/master's schedules. Picrel is from "artist schedule" search on google. There's way too many things you can focus on (i.e gesture, rendering, line art etc) so that's for you to decide. Personally these never worked for me but sometimes you just need that little bit of push to and refocusing to improve and or enioy art.

No. 1638213

>>1638100
I've had a blast this year tbh. I haven't been able to draw much in past years but I've managed to draw something almost daily for it and gotten 30+ attacks/revenges in return this year and I'm by no means a popular artist. I've mostly been focusing on characters I think look fun to draw belonging to mutuals or artists I like and everyone's been really nice.

No. 1638227

>>1638034
I've only ever been to one RP group that was 40% artists and 60% writers. I joined in just as they were about to start but the RP was preestablished before that. The bit about everyone knows everyones oc but you and the cliquey popularity are true in my experience as well. I tried to fit in, doodled people's ocs but in the end it was still obvious who they're paying attention to more kek. Nowadays I just rp in private.

No. 1638247

>>1638100
I wish it wasn’t designed for kids who still have summer breaks so much. July is my busiest month at work so I’ve hardly had time to do much on it this year. It’s still fun though, gives me an excuse to draw for friends and random kids.

No. 1638262

>>1637868
I found her on IG recently, I’m glad she’s still around. The art you shared is cool too. Haven’t heard of her before.
>>1638154
I would also look into D&D if you want to draw characters. That’s pretty popular right now but if you want your own world or something different I’d find a group of writers because they love making characters but most can’t draw.

No. 1638284

>>1638227
That's what I'm most afraid of happening. I plan to join early but I tend to get overlooked in groups because I'm not very talkative and I have never participated in group RPs so I can't even imagine what they are supposed to be like and how to interact properly. I'm also afraid that most people will be american and that I'll get left out due to time differences regardless.

>>1638262
I sadly hate D&D and most fantasy stuff and I have no idea where to even find writers. All the interactions I've had with some through other group projects and fandoms were kind of scary because they always seem so much smarter than me kek I never felt like I could make or say anything that's worth their time, even if they were nice.

No. 1638302

>>1638018
yes it was hell and full of tifs, I don't recommend it lol. I wish I could post milk without outing myself but it was a small community.

No. 1638331

>>1638302
This is why the recent rise of discord communities sucks, none of the milk is ever publically available

No. 1638354

>>1638331
it was actually on a website but again it was a really small community so it could possibly be traced back to me.

No. 1638377

Just a rant but I fucking hate when I’m looking at an artists IG feed and it’s nothing but process videos without a single still IMAGE of any of the finished products. I know it’s for “the algorithm” but I just want to see the art!!!

No. 1638392

>>1638377
I heard some artists do this to make it harder and less appealing to repost or steal as bootleg merch

No. 1638397

>>1638212
This schedule looks like such a slog but maybe that's just my lazy ass

No. 1638404

>>1638377
Even worse when the final image is shown for only two seconds.

No. 1638435

>>1638377
i really hate tiktok/shorts speedpaints, they are absolutely worthless since it goes so fast its impossible to know what the fuck the artists is doing.

No. 1638437

>>1638377
I hate them too but I guess the algorithm is more rewarding to that kind of content now so that's why they do it? From what I've heard

No. 1638475

>>1638377
>>1638404
Yes! I absolutely hate this too. Ironically, even from a zero attention span point of view I still hate speed paint reels because it takes longer to look at a reel than at a drawing, and I can't even appreciate anything because the final piece is only there for half a second.

I don't even have sympathy for the "muh algorithm" point because insta artists are just way too ridiculously whiny about it. Speedpainters aren't even the worst at that because they just quietly post their speedpants, but those artists that are constantly making salty reels about how they don't get any likes is getting annoying.
Can't wait for someone to make a reel with that one sax audio dropping a hot take about how other artists are being annoying, so it becomes trendier to use the audio to virtue signal about how likes don't matter and the whiners shut up, and then the audio stops being trendy, and I don't have to see algorithm discourse with that exact audio 30 times in a row every time I open up instagram.

No. 1638494

File: 1689826620228.png (46.01 KB, 144x357, 1668045731596.png)

>have vivid image of how i want drawing to look in my mind
>try to draw it
>it sucks
>original vivid image replaced with failed drawing
anyone else suffers from whatever this imagination vermin is?

No. 1638498

Ugh, I miss when these threads actually had salt in them. Don't get me wrong; some of the advice y'all offer is pretty good but generally speaking, I miss all of the art drama.

No. 1638500

>>1638498
we cant have drama anymore because twitterfags cowtip

No. 1638501

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No. 1638505

>>1638284
To be fair DnD/fantasy isn't the only genre. There's others like Call of Cthulu with focus on mystery. There's also ryuutama, a japanese fantasy adventure game but the focus is on adventuring and helping. People also make homebrew. I'm not too well versed on ttrpgs but there's surprisingly a lot out there. The ttrpg I played was a homebrew and part of the issue was there's ten players playing on and off. It also demands you to be versatille because some players will care more about minmaxing than writing and your character development and tone will have to shift unless you want to drag it out kek.
That's another issue, I felt very autistic about what people's intentions are for RP and makes it awkward and longer (if realistic) to RP out a scene compared to when you write it yourself. Maybe I'd have a better experience if players were capped at five but I personally don't feel like seeking out more games.
Lastly years back there were forums for manga/comics naking I joined and people were looking for collaboration or just an artist. There's also forums dedicated for looking for RP partners/groups. I just googled them.

No. 1638506


No. 1639526

File: 1689929690325.gif (52 KB, 470x470, ulcrw25h.gif)

This is a redraw I drew of an old drawing I did back in 2021:

https://files.catbox.moe/lk5d35.gif

I've been drawing ever since I was around 4 years old, and now that I'm 20 years old, I'm starting to question whether or not I'm even a real artist. As a kid, I would often make my own comics and create my own characters, but that started to die down as I got older. Ever since I started posting my art on social media, I can't help but to feel jealous of all the artists I see whose art skills are WAY better than mine. Bonus points if they're younger than me. When I was around 14-15 years old, my art was fucking terrible:

https://files.catbox.moe/o6e4o2.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/7db0nn.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/4skmoh.png
https://files.catbox.moe/212qv5.jpg

https://files.catbox.moe/iaum0y.jpg

It looked like some crappy art you'd find on one of those bad art Tumblr blogs. Just looking at my old drawings makes me cringe.

Considering my art skills back then, I'm surprised people around me actually liked it. My family, friends, classmates, and teachers seemed to like my art, no matter how bad it was. I've always dreamt of pursuing some kind of career in art, but I don't know if that'll ever happen. I'm a HUGE perfectionist when it comes to my artwork. I get frustrated way too easily whenever I make the tiniest mistakes in my artwork, I go days, weeks, or even months at a time without drawing anything due to art block, and I would delete, throw away, or outright abandon my drawings out of fear that they might turn out like shit.

At this point, I'm debating on whether or not I should quit art. Maybe art just isn't meant for me. I might as well just quit art and pick some other hobby to hyperfixate on. It's not like I'm going to be the next Salvador Dali anyways.

No. 1639603

>>1639526
You draw so much better than me. I can barely draw a stick figure. :'((samefag)

No. 1639841


No. 1640452

>>1639526
To me it sounds like you're more of a storyteller and not somebody who'd become a gallery artist or idk, a concept artist for games. With your like of simple designs you could maybe go into animation but from your works I don't think you have the kind of drive for it that other people have and at your current level you would not be able to get into a better school for it. Basically if you want to keep it as a hobby I'd focus on what motivated you to do it in the first place. The fact that in the past you rather stopped drawing than compete with the skill-focused crowd sounds like that just doesn't motivate you.



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