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No. 1977045

A thread dedicated to the worst subsection of the Commentary Community. This community is characterized by contantly infighting, regurgitating the same points that another person had said with little to no new input, cannibalizing one another when they feel like their own reputation is at stake, and moral grandstanding.

Notable Figures:

>HopelessPeaches: A fat, mentally stunted, british woman. In a borderline DDLG relationship with LioConvoy. Uses her mental health as a shield. Very vile and toxic despite the sweet and soft image she portrays to her fans.

>LioConvoy: A fat and smelly, Chris Hansen wannabe, scrote who collects mentally damaged women as "daughters" like the Thundercats figurines he has. He's Peaches biggest defender and owns/operates a Discord server called "The Senate" in which he and his cult members will often threaten and coerce people to join in able to interrogate and berate them. Had 3 other adopted "kids" that he adopted only to disown/neglect them in favor of Peaches.
>Omnia: Kai's Ex. Has an actual life outside the internet, but can't help but run back to it. Made claims against Kai being abusive and took his cat, along with collecting money for items that probably weren't stolen.
>Kai/Zae: Volitile, but recently has made a resurgence with his Kooleen video. Admitts to beating Omnia and tries to say it was mutual.

Others in the community include: JustARobot (autistic grifter), PonderSprocket (well respected, but also has a weird dynamic with her teenage fanbase), HitenMitsuru (pretentious vtuber wannabe, another senate drone)



Last Thread:
>Iilluminaughtii Drama happened
>CasWarFox video fell through as he and the rest of the Fox Mafia were exposed for being degenerates
>Lio and Peaches were both confirmed to lurk
>Spoctor came back to defend himself. Really didn't go anywhere
>HarleyTBS distanced himself from the Senate and Peaches despite years earlier being her biggest defender
>Omnia came back to make a video on her court case after it ended. Kai made a response to it. Both are idiots and toxic
>Stalker simp Veritas that was shitting up the last thread, fighting tooth and nail to defend Peaches gets permabanned and exposed by Lio and Peaches
>Peaches kicked her abusive ex out and resorted to e-begging despite supposedly having a job
>Peaches and the Senate went in hard on Camilla Cuevas and the GlitchTale crew
>BoxovFox/BluDavu was exposed as being a toxic partner to her ex SkittlezJuice
>Leaked video on Lio and Joshua Vida contemplating telling MintHeart to record her SA
>Peaches makes a NSFW twitter
>Peaches goes into a random minors DMs to get them to take down a post they made about being groomed. Minor doesn't budge and Peaches gets angry and pushy. DMs are leaked and she and Lio also try to get the groomers personal information. Peaches gets absolutely dragged for it and suicide baits
>Kai makes a video on it and the minor gets mad at him for it
>Hiten rescends her previous vitriolic statements towards Chuuli over the Feghost situation
>MintHeart reveals that she was disowned by Lio over Peaches. Also reveals that Pink (another adopted child) was as well, and the last one, Opal, left because of Peaches
>Lio ducks a debate with Kai and instead, makes a video where he calls Kai enabling with the sole evidence being guilt by association. Kai makes a response and surpasses him in views
>Leaked call where The Senate verbally berate and bully, Rosa, a brian damaged autistic woman for not banning a predator in a server she was in. Peaches deletes any comment asking her about this
>FruitCakeKlub leaks are made public where it shows that Peaches, along with other ACC members, were in a server with minors where sexual content was shared
>CoyoteLovely is attempting to comeback
>Peaches may have directly ripped off Illymation's grooming video
>CystalFlame, the main victim to Vier, CamillaCuevas's ex, speaks out against Peaches for the FCK leaks
>Peaches left The Senate server
>NezzieMonster, another person in the FCK apperantly attempts suicide because of people trying to hold her accountable
>MintHeart released a video talking about her experience with Lio
>Peaches deleted her Youtube, NSFW, personal, and Youtube Twitter
>Lio makes a video slandering Crystal because he went against Peaches
>Peaches is suspected to be trooning out

Old Thread: >>>/snow/1817812

No. 1977048

>>>/snow/1976873

Typical autistic moid behavior, not surprised.

No. 1977050

same nonna from the last thread but

>stuff from Mali-Malware being discussed. It feels awfully specific kek.

No. 1977056

>>1977050
I think this is more related to the Minecraft Youtuber drama going on right now rather than ACC. Still funny to think this is Mali low-key trying to tell Peaches and Lio how to respond kek.

No. 1977067

>>1977056
Mali is apart of the Senate no? If so, I wonder if she has any skeletons in her closet regarding Senate drama.

No. 1977200

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Remember when Harley said that a new video on Omnia/The Senate would be dropping in 2 days? I swear Peaches/Lio must have some sort of blackmail on him.

No. 1977214

>>1977200
I’m not sure they do (even if they do who’s gonna take Lio/Peaches/Senate’s claims seriously at this point), what’s more likely is Harley is waiting for Peaches/Lio to drop their responses and/or had to add in stuff about the Crystal situation last minute just so people can’t use the “they made a response go watch!” I know Harley is known for milking situations but since Peaches and Harley seem to have had a closer friendship it may be different cuz of the personal involvement

No. 1977215

Same anon but Crystal and co have dropped their response video

No. 1977217

>>1977200
I wouldn't be surprised if he decided not to after people pointed out his odd priorities. He made no statement about the Senate's/ Peach's shenanigans but the moment Omnia tweets, he's ready to go mask off. He's still a Senate cronie through and though

No. 1977220

>>1977217
>Omnia tweets
It’s funny how this community starts shit with Omnia every 5 minutes and goes on about how “Omnia bad, look at Kai’s recent stuff” but then once Omnia starts focusing on IRL shit and not acting as terminally online they’ll scream “Kai’s not a trustworthy source and abused Omnia” like they weren’t just basically saying Nia faked all the abuse. Fell from 100k subs and has had who knows how many dramas and yet this community still leeches off Omnia for content that’s both sad and hilarious

No. 1977228

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"Nobody is allowed to mock Peaches for crying because she is based and peach-pilled!" so she's allowed to do that to others?

No. 1977229

>>1977220
No one is leeching off Omnia for content where did this even come from? None of these people even entertained Omnia until she started imposing herself in all of these dramas. Harley didn’t even think to make a video until Omnia accused him and Ponder of being complacent in the Rosa call despite the both of them speaking out. Omnia dissociated from him and decided to let the internet know she did that, then Harley responded. Omnia still sucks kek

No. 1977239

>>1977229
“Leeches for content” was a bad way to describe it but they’re definitely dependent on Omnia for ammo/defenses/deflections. For example
>Peaches and Lio are willing to side with Kai when he posts Omnia and co being weird on Discord
>Then Peaches and Lio go “Kai is an abusive evil person” when Kai calls out how shit they handled the Camila Cuevas and Spoctor situations
>Lio tries to say Omnia is being dodgy by not playing court recordings and was in Kai’s stream chats
>Lio continued to frame Kai as an abuser when the drama kicked in months later
>Harley makes a video with Omnia about the allegations then immediately privated it when the 2022 drama happened and made 2 videos about it
Im not an Omnia stan by any means because Kai has been right about things with Nia and Senate but you can’t deny that this community basically uses everything Omnia and Kai say about each other to deflect their criticisms and sucks off whichever of the two is more popular at the moment

No. 1977242

I wonder if any commentary channel is going to bring up that rebecca/ryan is a manipulative abuser that used Rosa's history of CSA to defend himself against mr enter's claims. I have heard people say Rosa is ''guilty'', but it honestly seems to me like she was being manipulated and abused by the tranny.

No. 1977244

“Based and peach-pilled”. The way that community wants to be so tough and edgy while crumpling from the slightest insult is hilarious.

No. 1977250

>>1977229
I agree that Omnia shouldn’t have lashed out at Harley and ponder, but I still can’t stand Harleytbs, or any annoying clout chaser that grifts. Any issue that arises in the CC is bound to have 12 videos made on it by him until the topic is milked dry.

No. 1977254

>>1977250
I mean it has worked out well. Uploading popular topics daily bootsed their numbers. It's how they got to be popular. By posting like 20 creepshowart videos. Too bad it also means Harely wont do a topic unless it benefits them

No. 1977264

>>1977250
>and Ponder
Honestly Ponder kinda deserves it, she’s been in the senate participating in their BS for over a year at this point and the last thread went over her inability to behave herself around her underaged fans, (specifically Chuuli/Dulu/Vabzuycin) and she’s continued being silent on Spoctor while agreeing with Senate’s claims on him and is continuing to stay silent on this from what I know

No. 1977266

>>1977264
Pretty sure they tried to get Ponder to say shit on Spoctor but all they were willing to do was like a post. But still, shame on Ponder. She was a grown ass woman who agreed that Spoctor was groomed to be hyper sexual as a teen and hasn't done shit since. She watched as the senate labled him a pedo for being sexual as a minor to other minors. While they're adults being way creepier to the minors in their server. I don't like Spoctor, but what happened to him was BS

On a petty note, I wonder how Peaches's weight loss surgery went. I like to think she's still as big as ever since the surgery isn't a fix all and is still eating take out for every meal.

No. 1977267

>>1977254
anon you replied to:
Yeah I get that it made Harley popular, but it’s annoying when it’s a serious topic. People in the yandere dev Reddit were asking him to be respectful of victims and he replied back “who cares, this video is doing numbers”. Harley doesn’t even pretend to care about victims

No. 1977268

Leigha Something is doing another stream, watching Crystal’s video, figured I’d post this one too since anons liked the last stream she did, according to the comments she’s also gonna touch on Coyote Lovely and the Mr. Enter / Star Giant thing later

>>1977267
Not shocked, the CC but especially Senate is known for making these serious crimes into drama / entertainment.

No. 1977270

>>1977268
someone needs to tell her to change her fucking logo it always reminds me of that pedo that made daisy's destruction

No. 1977271

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I’m honestly shocked JAR hasn’t had any comment about the situation outside of picrel, I’d figure he’d be quick to white knight Peaches maybe it’s cuz Senate has dirt on him like has been speculated so he can’t backstab her for clout?

No. 1977274

>>1977271
I haven't seen JAR defend Peaches in a while. Guy is probably secretly upset that Peaches went for Lio and not him. Guess he didn't realize She gets her peach soaked for bullying and controlling others. Lio has a whole ass server dedicated for that sole purpose.

I don't think it would have ever worked anyways. I know Peaches wanted the Autism diagnosis for victim points. However listening to senate calls I think I can confidently say she hates autistic people and Jar has it.

No. 1977286

>>1977242
This i absolutely agree with. When Kai is Relevant Omnia is suddenly valid, and when Omnia is relevant, Kai is suddenly valid. Both have questionable credibility but are less insufferable than those calling them out

No. 1977332

>>1977271
“Art CC is strange” and he decides to tag a diaper fetishist trying desperately to cosplay as a woman and a cuck kek

No. 1977364

>>1977250
Honestly anon, how can you like any party involved in this? They are all awful in different ways and I can't think of any of the main players in this drama would come off as good in anyway. They're all social vultures.

>>1977250
No need to use "they/them", Harley is a man, let's keep it real kek.

>>1977266
That's what made me see that Ponder can be pretty dim and lacks conviction at times. she was able to see that Spoctor was just a horny teen groomed into the sexpest stuff unlike Doodletones who was already exhibiting that behavior before he was "groomed". and still decided to go with him being a pedo when he obviously wasn't. I know that the drive thing is controversial but as someone who has two old portable hard drives with old stuff on it that i have forgotten about in years, I can understand how Spoctor may have forgotten that he had those old pictures on it and if I remember correctly, there has been no evidence that Spoctor was hitting up minors since his drama with Stories & Pentagrin. IF I'm wrong, someone please correct me but I don't recall.

>Peaches weight-loss

IF she still is repeating her eating habits, then she likely is still overweight and not much changed. You're not just born as big as she got and it takes years of a sedentary lifestyle of next to no exercise and poor eating.

No. 1977366

>>1977332
The tone-deafness is hilarious isn't it? lol
He may not make as much ACC content these days but he's still very much a part of it.

No. 1977399

>>1977271
what is with you guys and "blackmail" theories lol
the situation is a mess and everyone is clearly waiting for the final arch
anything that can be pulled on justarobot and his fans will be excused with his autism anyway

No. 1977546

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IT FUCKING HAPPENED. Peaches has officially come out saying that Lio abused her. We all fucking called it KEK.

https://twitter.com/o676909/status/1769750417229914287?t=vJMtHqqBF-xWIf6z2JBaCw&s=19

No. 1977547

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Peaches is now throwing LioConvoy under the bus by claiming that he abused her. Nonnas we fucking called it !! I hope they keep in mind that Peaches was a grown ass woman that got in a ddlg relationship with him. She was not groomed, she’s not a victim, and she’s just pissed that she couldn’t successfully homewreck and make things go her way.

No. 1977548

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Sorry for double posting but here’s part of the statement.

No. 1977549

>>1977546
No fucking way! KEK

That's perfect, literally the absolute ideal of a Peaches cycle. Like poetry, it rhymes.

No. 1977551

>>1977547
I don't have twitter, but does Peaches admit to the ddgl relationship stuff in the "statement?

No. 1977556

>>1977551
not directly but she claims she was fucking “age regressing uwu” what a loser

No. 1977561

>>1977546
Forgive me if I'm skeptical on the "abuse". Sorry but this woman has proven to be drama and take the internet too fucking seriously. More importantly, this doesn't absolve her from the shit she has pulled over the last two years and the writing is on the wall that her troon out is to get away from the Hopeless Peaches name that is now associated with drama. And if she hasn't apologized for the shit she pulled, this revelation to me is rather pointless.

>>1977547
Thank you for keeping it real anon. She's a grown ass woman who joined the server when she was in her early 20s, she is not a teenager and I hope people realize that. Remember peeps, she acted disgustingly toward a literal mentally challenged woman showing no signs of remorse and while she claims she has apologized, I don't believe for a second that she was "out of character". Lio didn't make her do that, she did that of her own and the way it came off felt like something she probably did with Creepshow Art when they'd make fun of people. Or how she totally copied Illymation's grooming story.

All I'm saying is that people need to hold Peaches to task. She can change her name and stupidly think she's a man but it means jack shit (the name change, not the retarded gender crap) if she doesn't take accountability for what she did. And even with this >>1977548 I still have little no sympathy because she's not a fucking kid, she should've been keeping out of social media while she was getting her therapy to deal with her issues but she didn't. It's different to a teenager who gets sucked into Lio's little cult. And even when she explains Lio's MO of who he seeks as targets she manages to do in a retarded way. They aren't AFABs, they're women and girls you idiot, he doesn't care about the stupid gender lingo, he goes after vulnerable women and girls.

No. 1977562

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>>1977546
>>1977547
>>1977548
This is hilarious holy shit imagine putting this fat monstrosity over your wife, defending her ass on stream, and all of it for her to throw you under the bus. I hate peaches but I hate Lio then times more, what a disgusting pedo scrote. I can't wait to hear Leiah's reaction to this shit.

No. 1977565

>>1977562
I'm looking forward to Leigha's cover as well, she seems to be pretty fairly rounded with this mess but I hope that she doesn't let Peaches off easily and let this absolve her of her behavior.

No. 1977567

>>1977546
this reeks of "I'm not responsible for my own shitty behavior, Lio is". While I have no doubt Lio is abusive, fuck this bitch. She's just as toxic

No. 1977569

>>1977565
she acknowledging that peaches trooned out just to get away with it an even 'misgendering' her a few times was funny as fuck. I hope she's a cryptoterf.

No. 1977572

>>1977547
I agree anon. Something juicy behind the scenes happened that pushed Peaches into making this. If she thought Lio was going to leave her breadwinner wife for this fat ugly bitch then she had a rude awakening. Peaches knew that her reputation was burning down and there was no coming back from it. Just like the Creepshow art saga, she needed someone knew she can pin her bad behavior on and Lio fit the bill. Unless Peaches is chased away for good, she’s gonna rinse and repeat with this sob story. People need to be reminded that she’s not a fucking victim. Jordyn, Seaprincess Opal and the rest of the “daughters” are. Fuck peaches and fuck anyone that tries to coddle her

No. 1977573

>>1977569
Yeah I noticed that and I agree, funny as fuck but still, I just hope that she doesn't fall for Peaches', ahem, "Eren" (could she be any more of a weeb, we know it's from AOT kek) manipulative tactic. Lio is asshole but so is "Eren".

No. 1977574

kek this would be the perfect time for Lio also to throw Peaches under the bus. He can claim that peaches was throwing herself at him and publish those dms. Don’t be shy Lio, expose her so you two can both go down

No. 1977576

>>1977574
Fucking kek, this is pure Jerry Springer (for us Americans) &/or Jerry Kyle (for you Brits) in the making. I hope Lio drops the other half of the tea on this because both parties are toxic and ridiculous.

No. 1977577

Peaches is acting like she's a 16 year old grooming victim and not a mid 20's home wrecker who's mad Lio didn't divorce his wife for her. She also def an away because of the heat, not because of Lio.

Keep in mind that after she left she went on call with Lio in tears as she was defending herself because of the Fruitcake server and was acting baby girl with him. She realized that Lio defending her didn't work, so she went with plan C, blame Lio. If she wanted to get away from Lio how come she was in contact with him while he made a video defending her?

No. 1977579

>>1977574
yes please i love tard on tard violence

No. 1977585

>>1977577
She had all the time to "run" from her abuser but waited to leave the internet when people realize she's a bitch with no morals who draws loli and shota. And I swear it wasn't just her behavior in the Fruitcake server. I've seen her make fun of people's mental health, verbally abusing teens and harassing people for no reason other than jealousy or hatin. She needs to atone for the people she went after just because they didn't defend her during the Creepshow drama.

No. 1977587

>>1977364
>No need to use "they/them", Harley is a man, let's keep it real kek.
NTAYRT and this maybe derailing but I was subscribed to Harley 3 years ago, when the initial Peaches drama happened, and I remember them making a video about being trans. They outright said they were part of the trans community, it didn't say explicitly if they were born male or female but I was always under the impression that Harley was a TiF. I have no caps for this and the video seems to have been deleted, I'm not smart enough to dig for proof but I thought it might be of interest to the more investigative nonnas in this thread.
(Only they/them'ming because I actually don't know, it could be some shit like the 'she/they's that say they're trans because "they're non-binary" despite being obviously just girls but for men)

No. 1977593

>>1977582
AYRT and oh wow, I honestly had no idea of the possibility that this person was a TIF/Enby. The voice just sounded male to me so I assumed but I forgot that girls who take testosterone can get a deeper voice so fair point anon, my bad. I'm personally leaning toward girl because there tends to be more girls and women involved in the ACC vs the CC that seems more men and boys dominated.
Anyway sorry for derail kek

No. 1977596

>>1977585
I just hope that people are finally over the Creepshow thing. It happened 3-4 years ago and is old. Creepshow attempted to return, it didn't work and she's been out of the social media public eye (that we know of) since then. Peaches can't use the Creepshow art situation anymore, she's a grown ass woman who has been acting on her own without Shannon's influence and it turns out she's just like her in terms of manipulative tactics and unpleasantness. I hope that people realize that and don't default to the Creepshow excuse anymore. Though now it seems like people may switch Creepshow for Lio as a "negative influence" but again, she's an adult, she knew what she was doing.

No. 1977597

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I don't trust a damn word that peaches says, but this part caught my eye. It just goes to show that Lio really is a fucking predator.

No. 1977601

>>1977597
This dumbass is trying to group herself with the girls that were minors when they fell victim to Lioconvoy ?! And her being a “victim” isn’t gonna change the fact that she was bullying them and caused them to be ostracized to gain Lio’s favor. I wish Peach’s biological sister saw this nonsense. I want her opinion

No. 1977603

>>1977601
Exactly this. There will always be people who will see Peaches as a victim. However she's a grown ass woman comparing herself with children when she was part of their abuse. She's a fucking troll who's upset that Lio's defense didn't work and that he didn't leave his wife for her. Her plans failed, that's it.

Also fuck her age regression shit. She just wants to be a teen forever. She's obviously into ddgl and Lio wasn't around when she drew that loli art and was larping as a teen. Even her OC looks like a teen. Peaches has a bad habit of putting all the blame on her ex's. Apperently every single one of her ex's has abused her and I call BS. Her family disowned her for a reason. She's a bitch

No. 1977604

>>1977597
Adding AFAB was a nice touch. It's true he only targets women

No. 1977605

>>1977604
This is tinfoil but I realized something after watching the Leigha Something stream and I can’t get it out of my mind. Lio had a mod called “Lios twink secretary” that was barely 18. I don’t know if he nodded while he was underage or what the deal is but here’s this: what if this is Lio’s kink? Lio obviously has a thing for butches or femboys, since he encouraged Mint heart and Peaches to troon out after they were being adopted. He gives me huge pedo creep vibes and I hope his drives get checked at some point.

No. 1977606

>>1977597
honestly, peaches might be a cunt, but Lio is way worse. He's a disgusting scrote that collects mentally ill 18yo girls like pokemons, is friends with creepy trannies with diaper fetishes, wanted an underage girl to record her abuse, berated and bullied a mentally ill disabled woman, and probably more shit that peaches is going to spill out. He creeps me the fuck out and if peaches manages to stop this gross manchildren from abusing more autistic women it will atone for some of her sins.

No. 1977608

>>1977605
i am pretty sure the twink was a TIF though, he's definetly only straight and he doesnt seem to have interest in your boys.

No. 1977610

>>1977606
I agree that Lio is worse but I hate male centered women the throw other women under the bus as much as the male perpetrators. Peaches would’ve happily gone along with what Lio does to girls as long as she was getting attention and protection. Make no mistake, but this was all calculated. Now we wait for Lio’s response to see what made Peaches turn against him, because it’s definitely not out of the kindness of her heart kek. Lio is the Anthony Parker to Peaches’ Creepshow art

No. 1977626

>>1977610
I know she's a manipulative pickme. I am just happy she's at least doing something good by dragging and exposing Lio. ''killing two birds with a stone'' as they say.

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>>1977546
>>1977547
>>1977548
Long time coming, genuinely maybe I feel a bit for Peaches but let’s be honest with ourselves here, the Rosa call was not the only instance of Peaches being an ass to others there was also shit like the Miles situation which was completely Peaches own will. Genuinely I wonder how the Acc and Scc will try to defend Lio now, are people like Doodle, Hiten, Boonslayer and Ephrommentator still part of Senate or have they fucked off and smartened up? Furthermore I can’t wait to see how the people Lio and Peaches have had drama with will use this to wash their hands like they did with the Kai and Creepshow situation and how CasWarFox, CarmenRider, SeptyPaws, and Veritas will use this to act like the poor baby victims
>>1977610
>Lio is the Anthony Parker to Peaches’ Creepshow art
More like the Kai to Peaches’ Omnia
Only other thing is Lio has confirmed the statement as real and from Peaches and is planning on responding, wonder if he’ll bring up the obvious lolcow lurking and claim he was “pressured into it by Peaches”

No. 1977639

Peaches is gonna come back as Rebel Eren and drop an hour video on how Lio Convoy “abused” her. The rest of the ACC are going to make videos to rehabilitate her image and the fucking cycle begins again. Calling it now

No. 1977641

>>1977639
>>1977639
That’ll be entertaining, Peaches actually has a live-streaming channel still up (it was from the ThatRascalRosie days) so be sure keep an eye on it
https://youtube.com/@PeachesLIVE
(Repost, the link didn’t work for me for some reason)

No. 1977644

Moral of the story is never joined a Discord channel ever. Pretty much the situation. Or Listen to wannabe predator catcher fat loud mouth neck bread moid with a katana collection.

No. 1977646

Enlaa is live talking about Peaches and so are Akumu and Kumo 1/2

No. 1977647

Several nonnies called it–of course Peaches would turn on Lío and throw him under the bus as an abuser. Of course this would come, Peaches and Lio argue often after all. The "perfect found family" dynamic was a lie

No. 1977648

2/2

>>1977597
>Jordyn
Peaches doesn’t give a fuck about Mint/Jordyn or what they went through, I guarantee you that Peaches going trans was at least somewhat to mock Jordyn >>1976576 shows this to me

No. 1977651

So there is a stream going. Peaches only went against Lio in senate VC calls after she started getting heat for the Rosa call. She's really manipulative and calculated. Seems like she was planning to blame Lio for a little over a week.

No. 1977653

Also in stream Peaches recorded a private convo between her and Lio with her personal OBS acting like a six year old fake crying

No. 1977655

Here’s my personal timeline on how I think stuff went
>Jordyn disowned
>Lio and Peaches ruthlessly mock Jordyn behind the scenes
>Other kids of Lio’s leave as Peaches favoritism grows
>FCK leaks
>Peaches leaves senate and deletes everything as criticisms grow over shit like the Rosa Rey Ramsey call
>Jordyn and Lio’s other kids come out to Kumo
>People like Crystal Flame also leave and start to discuss it
>Lio tries desperately defending Peaches while Peaches hides out as usual
>Trans Peaches
>Lio gets mass disliked and Crystal and co respond and get even more people on their side
>Peaches, seeing that shit’s fucked, drops Lio and tries making nice with the victims in this little statement

>>1977651
I dislike Kai but honestly good on him for not joining around with Lio and Peaches, I fully agree with what >>1977286 said (btw I think they meant to reply to >>1977239) Peaches and Lio were leeches trying to make nice with Omnia and Kai why they could use one of their popularity against the other

>>1977653
Fucking hilarious, what was it about?

No. 1977657

>>1977655
So in a recent senate call it was like 100 people per usual. Lio was shitting on another autistic person. He asked if the autistic person had a drivers license. Then Peaches started to tell Lio he's a POS for asking personal information and started crying. Peaches left.

So Lio called Peaches privately pissed off that Peaches "embarassed" him in call. Eren started to fake cry and baby talk "Y-you were mwad at meeeeeeee. Aboose". Peaches also admitted they were recording Lio. Lio called Peaches out saying Peaches is over correcting now that the Rosa call got leaked.

They're both POS however Lio is right. Peaches only had this call to pretend to be lil baby who has morals. Peaches was planning to blame Lio for their shit behavior for over a week lol.
The thing is, Peaches doesn't have any proof they fought against Lio before the Rosa call. Peaches only has "evidence" of having a problem with Lio when they make it in advanced. But yuh she's fake crying through the whole thing for victim points. It's actually annoying hearing her.

No. 1977658

LMFAO I fucking CALLED it she threw Lio under the bus omg she's so fucking predictable!!

No. 1977659

>>1977657
long story short. Peaches only had a problem with Lio and realized he was abusive when Peaches started getting heat for the Rosa call and the FCK leaks.
Lio was actually confused AF in the call because of Peaches's sudden personality change and even asked why she was even crying. Then she was claiming "Age regression! I'm a baby now!"

No. 1977660

I’m watching the stream and…
>Kai: Peaches fake crying just like she did during the ”Addressing the Creepshow Art allegations” video in 2020
>Peaches: The Rosa call makes me hate myself
>Kai: And whose fault is that?!
>Peaches: My memory issues make me age regress
>Kai: Always an excuse when you do something bad. Your memory issues only come up when you can victimize yourself. Lio I see why you’re upset but I warned you! I don’t have time for this nonsense and fake crying, get your shit together! if you have age regression get help for it, your mental problems don’t absolve you of responsibility!
Fucking finally someone said it, Kai/Xzae is insufferable and obnoxious but he’s right on the money with this one! Surprised he’s talking like Lio but to Peaches who should be talked down to like Lio does to people. Also Peaches is definitely a sympathy seeker like Kai said years ago. If Peaches ever was genuinely harmed mentally it’s not been any time recently. This shit feels like a bad soap opera climax, the fake crying and recording and releasing this with shit about “age regression” screams “trying to seem more sympathetic that I am” Peaches was right about one thing though, what Kai called “TERF shit” lmao, Lio has a big moid ego he strokes with Senate shit

No. 1977661

>>1977659
Also her age regression is BS because her therapist said she didn't have anything wrong. Also Lio called her out in the call saying she's being dramatic on purpose, stop crying and just talk. which, he's right. But also why the hell is he harassing an autistic person?

No. 1977664

>>1977562
>>1977565
Same anon but you both will be glad to know Leigha’s next stream about the Lio stuff is scheduled for tomorrow

No. 1977666

>>1977660
Peaches suddenly stopped crying when she got mad with Lio and called her a narcissist
He's not wrong lol
Who the hell stops heavily weeping words apart. LOL!
Both Peaches and Lio are awful but Peaches is emotionally manipulative and abusive

No. 1977667

>>1977664
cant wait. I hope she points out how creepy it is that lio participated in the stars giant video considering it has a section where rosa, the woman he berated and called a whore, talks about how she's a victim of CSA.

No. 1977670

>>1977666
Yeah it’s genuinely refreshing that someone, even if it is Kai, has picked up on Peaches pattern over the years. Shocked Tobi hasn’t mentioned anything though, usually she’s the first one to say something like
>”Kai’s snapping at another woman with mental illness? Looks like nothing changed in years.”
Also Kai’s screeching about Omnia on stream, jfc their court case has nothing to do with this shit, Omnia’s just calling out Peaches even Nia hasn’t mentioned it so far in reference to the FCK stuff from what I know

No. 1977676

Lio is a creepy piece of shit. But damn Peaches lol. Lio paid Peaches's rent an bills when they ran out of money. This guy did nothing but defend Peaches and she threw him under the bus when she was getting heat because she didn't see any other way. I'm glad they're both going down.

No. 1977679

>>1977676
Agreed, it’s honestly shocking to know the catalyst of this all was the Tobi Majestic drama, some millennial being bratty and having tantrums online has turned into some other millennial being bratty and having tantrums online and ending up in with a creepy dad with an abusive rabbit hole backstory and a cult server cuz she defended the other brat and got whiny on Twitter when called out for it

No. 1977681

>>1977677
Uh is this a picture of Lio’s wife? We shouldn’t be posting irl pictures of his wife should we not? I do feel horrid for her though, she’s not like Peaches or Anthony, she didn’t know the unstable creepy fuck she was about to get into shit with

No. 1977682

>>1977677
Can we not put his wife's face? I feel bad for this woman

No. 1977683

>>1977682
My apologies. I hid the photo of Lios wife

No. 1977684

>>1977676
unironic stacy behaviour on peaches part kek. Thats what you deserve for simping for morbidly obese terminally online manipulative pussy.

No. 1977688

Kai has been on an Omnia rant for like half an hour. The stream is useless now

No. 1977689

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Harley is still planning on releasing a video on the Senate. I really hope he doesn’t do stupid shit and coddle peaches again

No. 1977691

>>1977688
Kai’s been ranting about the Miles situation now too, apparently Peaches triggered him lmao. This is why Omnia and Kai are insufferable, they can’t stop mentioning each other for 5 minutes but especially Kai cuz Omnia at least pays attention to IRL stuff more so we don’t hear it from Nia as much at least. I like Omnia more cuz being inoffensive mostly and occasionally right (usually when mentioning Peaches) compared to Kai also being occasionally right (also usually about Peaches) but never shutting the fuck up any other time. I’m just watching to hear the call by now he seems to be back to Peaches as I’m finishing this thankfully

No. 1977693

>>1977689
Where did you get this from? Also I’m wondering if Harley and Peaches are gonna be friendly now until another Peaches drama happens, like what happened with Omnia which was basically
>Kai and Omnia get into drama
>Omnia makes allegations against Kai
>Harley helps spread these
>Drama happens with Omnia and Harley privates the video and goes against Nia
My guess is it will go
>Harley will spread Peaches’ allegations
>Encourage Peaches to come back
>Peaches will eventually cause another drama
>Harley will haul ass again
Maybe Harley making a video will spread it to the more mainstream commentary community (aka people like Tipster) since Harley hangs with them a similar thing happened with the Creepshow Art situation

No. 1977699

>>1977693
ayrt: I got it from Harley’s twitter account and yeah I agree. Harley definitely made a deal with peaches behind the scenes and I wouldn’t be surprised if she begged him to make a video that makes her look good . He can pin all of her bad behavior on “Lio manipulating her personality”

No. 1977701

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Another doc has been dropped by that Lio’s Twink Secretary person AKA Zack it’s not much milky, just them saying they’re leaving Senate/Lio after what Peaches dropped

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1BGV_gZb1jil-UcJXtcScZQ7wCt1dYc_bKO5c68AOn_o

No. 1977706

>>1977691
Omnia tweets about “her abuser” so much and even mentioned it 10 minutes into her latest video unprovoked. Why does this thread always treat Omnia like they have a life as if she isn’t actively tweeting and participating in this drama all the time? Kai wasn’t wrong in the fact that Omnia keeps mentioning him for no reason, and here he is again on stream responding to her bringing him up. It looks like it’s the other way around.

No. 1977709

>>1977706
same anon but he went on to wonder why Omnia even assumed that Kai would care where she lived, and does the same thing Peaches does where she claims the only reason Kai does anything in regards to her is because of attraction. Kai mentioned his new girlfriend and how that’s creepy for Omnia to even do that. I agree with the previous anon that Peaches is the Omnia to Lio’s Kai. I don’t like Lio either but there are parallels in how Omnia has victimized themselves. There are even biases in this exact thread.

No. 1977714

>>1977706
Respectfully idgaf about either of those two but in pretty sure Omnia has mainly tweeted about peaches since like February kek. She definitely has mentioned Kai a couple of times but she isn’t dumb enough to screech about him on live the way Kai is doing right now. This isn’t me bashing Kai but his main problem is his temper. He explodes over the littlest things easily and he’s even making himself look bad for being a little sympathetic toward Lio. Him going “I told you so you’re kinda like me trusting the wrong people” when Lio is a fucking creep preying on underage girls does not look good. At all. Hoping Kai sees this and stops going for that angle. sorry for the autistic rant

No. 1977716

>>1977709
AYRT, Nonnie no one is treating Omnia like a saint, I fully agree there’s holes in Omnia’s retelling of the story but Peaches’ doc has literally nothing to do with Omnia until the end where Peaches throws a mini-tantrum and proves to still a shit flinging brat with no Lio needed. I went to Kai’s stream to watch a stream about Peaches not hear how Kai is so triggered about Omnia, I’d rather a brief vague not by name mention in a video about Peaches than a 10 minute rant and constantly bringing it up

No. 1977717

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>>1977546
People may mock the idea Peaches was abused but I believe it. We already have screenshot testimony taken from the Kumo video of Lio basically disowning her from the family unit to win an argument.

She may be extremely unsympathetic but we know that there's a history to this so I'm not gonna doubt it happened.

No. 1977718

>>1977717
I'm not giving her a fucking ounce of sympathy when she didn't give a shit about Lio's abuse to other people. She will take an inch and stretch it a mile this bridge troll deserves absolutely nothing.

No. 1977720

>>1977716
Okay but I’m not surprised if the person who very clearly sees the parallels to his own situation and this one, is going to point them out. Kai didn’t want to be mentioned by Omnia at all, just because he was “mentioned a few times” does not make Kai wrong in his upset. His screeching was about how “Eren” and Omnia do the same things in terms
of victimizing themselves. If you’re not defending Omnia and see the holes in her story you wouldn’t be confused as to why Kai is “screeching” about it. Omnia has been weird and creepy in her own right to him and I don’t get why some anons just treat it like it’s coming from nowhere.

No. 1977721

>>1977717
My take is Peaches was the Golden Child and while Lio favored Peaches he probably did still do the same abusive shit he did to his other kids to Peaches just to a lesser degree and less often as Peaches got him clout. I have said before that Peaches has done plenty of scummy shit with 0 involvement from Lio and shit like the screenshots of Peaches making hate art of Jordyn is something Peaches seems all too eager to ignore making me doubt a lot of Peaches’ testimony but I do believe Lio is at least to some extent guilty and Peaches is partially just trying to look good

No. 1977723

>>1977717
I don't doubt that Lio is a POS. However I wouldn't trust ANYTHING Peaches says since she loves playing the victim. Unless there is proof of Lio "disowning" her then take it with a grain of salt. Also I don't feel bad for this bitch. how many dramas has she been a part of? She was a bitch daily having daily fights with someone. The fact she's doing the uwu baby victim shit again? Fuck off.

No. 1977724

>>1977720
Again the issue is its just not relevant, there may very well be parallels between Omnia and Peaches but we are talking about Peaches now, you don’t need to keep pausing the video to go “This is just like Omnia” “It’s what you and Omnia do” if it triggers Kai so badly that he can’t think rationally he needs to just sit it out or make a separate video where he can prepare himself, I 100% agree with >>1977714 Kai has made good points but has a problem with temper and being impulsive, making a stream about abuse claims knowing it could trigger you and then getting triggered is really your own fault, I wanna hear about the new shit with Peaches not a ramble and rant about the allegations that we have no new evidence of coming out or anything

No. 1977728

>>1977724
Omnia and Peaches are both relevant in the doc. Both are actors in the situation. Is it really irrelevant or are you just not interested in hearing it? Kai has had a personal experience with both. If anything I’d think his criticisms to both are fair regardless of triggers, and he got through the call either way with breaks in between? idgi

No. 1977730

It’s fucking crazy how many people on Twitter are jumping ship on Lio, many of them are pretty big creators too. Yet again everyone jumps to pendulum swing in opinion once Peaches claims she was hurt, ISTG no one is this community has a brain of their own they just agree with whatever side Peaches is on this week

>>1977723
Didn’t Peaches say in the call video (through text) “I told Lio I didn’t wanna do family stuff anymore”? You’re mad he did what you asked? Or was this before that or something in that case did he take you back? But why did you let him if you didn’t want it anyways? I stand by that Lio was likely abusive to Peaches to an extent but something isn’t adding up here…

No. 1977731

>>1977728
ugh eyeroll. Every time there’s juicy info on the senate and Lio some anon has to bring Kai and his whining into it. we don’t care. He’s old news and there’s a milkier cow staring you at the face. Kai and Omnia are old news and the least important thing right now. The ACC is imploding ffs

No. 1977738

>>1977730
I actually don't see anyone defending peaches on my timeline. Because this is hot off the Rosa drama, Most people are very correctly assuming that this is to take the heat off of her for what she did.

No. 1977742

>>1977738
I'm glad people are seeing the Peaches pattern. First she tried saying it wasn't true. Then she "forgot". Then it was her groomers fault. Lowkey scuicide bait. They tried trooning out for victim points. Now Lio is abusive and she's a victim. ~Age regression~. She literally threw the whole deck on the table

Lio is def a POS but I'm glad people are seenig Peaches as more slimey for plannnig and calculating stabbing her one defender in the back. Though kek, I'm glad Lio is going down as well. Dude is 40 jfc

No. 1977751

Hate to say it but I'm actually excited to see Lio cannibalize Peaches too. Something's gonna be weirdly cathartic about him having his tard rage towards the trog he went to bat for. Some parts because it'll be hilariously ironic, and some parts because it'll be an amazing shitshow watching how this divides the ACC.

No. 1977761

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Fucking kek he’s trying to go after patchwork heart now but here’s the kicker: no one accused him of cheating on his wife outside of these chats. So he’s probably projecting and really did cheat on his wife with Peaches lmao. Even if peaches is a “victim” people are still gonna get on her ass for being a weirdo freak homewrecker

No. 1977763

>>1977761
He did say "I love you that's why" in a very hurt and confused tone in the video Peaches recorded. Honestly Peaches is a POS homewrecker. But also fuck Lio betraying his wife who's keeping a roof over his head for some ugly bitch the the UK.

No. 1977765

>>1977763
I don’t feel bad for Peaches and I don’t feel bad for Lio either. Another anon said that Peaches is throwing Lio under the bus because she didn’t get the romance and attention she wanted and anon is right. Lio ( or his wife )if you’re lurking, now is your chance to come clean

No. 1977767

>>1977765
Wasn't Peaches viciously mocking and delighted that Lio's wife thought she was a homewrecker. And instead of listening to his wife Lio made her apologize to Peaches? This bitch

Also didn't anons say that Peaches would claim Lio was another one of her abusers last year? This dumbass didn't see the writing on the walls

No. 1977782

>>1977763
Wait peaches recorded the video? Does anyone know where it is ?

No. 1977783

>>1977730
Yeah I ain’t buying it and everything seems to coincidental. back in February when peaches was getting her ass beat in the twitter qrts and Harley said that he would be making a video in 48 hours ? Harley usually can and does upload a video that fast is he wants to. I believe THAT is when Peaches acted fast and reached out to Harley with information that would benefit them both( peaches getting protected and Harley getting clout). The best evidence is Harley himself admitting that was waiting for evidence. If he was waiting for evidence then why is he now dropping the video asap? Why is peaches realizing right now that she was “abused” when Jordyn’s interview is still pending ? Even in her testimony, she excluded the fact that she was being disgusting to Jordyn and accused her of being evil for “running to akumu”

No. 1977797

So where’s Hiten? I’d pay to see her reaction after being the biggest lio defender.

No. 1977808

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>>1977797
This is all she's vaguely alluded to. My bet is on her trying to breeze past this as much as possible because she was one of the loudest but also one of the smaller creators so she can get off easy if she keeps her head down and mouth shut.

No. 1977821

>>1977676
>Lio paid Peaches's rent and bills when they ran out of money.
Wait really? That is very interesting. I wonder what Peaches is gonna do now if she finds herself low on rent money. I've heard she has a job as like a waitress or something but it doesn't seem like it's enough to keep her afloat at all times.

No. 1977822

>>1977677
His wife is the only innocent party in all this. From everything so far, it doesn't seem like his wife was being a horrible person and was merely trying to put up with her fat idiot husband. I feel like his wife might be more of a "normie" so she may have seen this crap as silly internet stuff until Lio had her apologize to Peaches for being suspicious which she rightfully had the the right to be.

I seriously hope she leaves this disgusting lard ass. He clearly doesn't respect her and it's clear that he is holding onto her until he could get Peaches to the states and leave her for her. Which is really stupid when you think about it because the fat ass isn't self-reliant if he has to depend on his wife to be the breadwinner and Peaches is a mental wreck and the two would definitely be struggling financially which would make their "relationship" implode.

Either way like Leigha said in her stream, this southern woman needs to kick his ass to the curb, she deserves better.

No. 1977823

>>1977724
I missed Kai's stream and tbh I really don't wanna watch it because I really don't wanna hear him going "nigga this" and "nigga that" while having his tantrum. I think what Kai really needs is a second person to stream with who can keep him steady. On his own he clearly can't control his outbursts and if he had a trusted friend streaming with him who might be able to reel him in and keep him focused, it would make his streams on stuff like this a lot more bearable.

No. 1977824

>>1977751
The cherry on top of this would be if his wife decided to leave him after all this. She deserves better than some tard raging manchild who argues with teenagers on the internet all day long. And it just seems like he seriously was gonna leave her if he was able to get Peaches a visa to move to the states and be with him. That or try to convince her to have an open relationship so he can do his DDLG shit with her.

No. 1977825

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No. 1977856

Honestly, in listening to the calls, I can't believe Peaches thought they made Lio sound abusive. Peaches recorded herself talking to Lio in true Cluster B fashion, complete with gish-galloping, narc rage, and DARVO. Lio is a dumb scrote but he was absolutely right that Peaches was performative as hell in that call. She 100% smelled the smoke from the Rosa situation and scrambled to set up the narrative that "he's the true abooser! I tried multiple times to stop him and I would have never bullied poor Rosa if it weren't for his influence!" I can't believe people are actually falling for this but I'm not surprised since Peaches introduced Lio to commentary to begin with. This is her ballpark

No. 1977895

I’d sell my soul just to get an official testimony from both Lio’s wife and Peaches’ ex boyfriend. Now that everything’s coming out I have no doubt that both dumbasses were involved in making their relationships turbulent. After all peaches did first encounter Lio around 2021 and her relationship collapsed shortly after.

No. 1977903

Theres some kind of irony with how peaches now goes by he/they and in her doc against lio made this statement about how she's "not a woman" despite before all this went down she had no problem drawing her sona as sexy anime cutesy waifu to the point of making an nsfw account dedicated to it (even funnier is that no one would've known about peaches' sudden name and pronouns change if it weren't for lio's video. LIO of all people KEK)

but watch her now try to use this to invalidate all the videos and streams calling her out because they still referred to her with "peaches" and she/her at the time and make a stink about any thumbnails and video assets that use her sona becus "muh dysphoria"
Im calling it now kek

No. 1977904

>>1977823
Kai's videos are alot easier to watch than his streams because he doesn't go off on rants.

No. 1977920

>>1977904
The only time Kai is genuinely entertaining to watch during his streams is when he openly insults Lio and peaches kek. Everyone else tiptoes and tries to be kind but Kai will literally call them fat, ugly, retarded and every name in the book. It’s refreshing to see

No. 1977942

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Hopeless peaches after successfully scamming a 40 year old man, home wrecking then playing victim by cosplaying as an uwu anime girl, then trooning out and throwing Lio under the bus:

No. 1977971

>>1977942
I hate peaches but i respect the game

No. 1978005

>>1977971
I wouldn't say she has game. Lio is just retarded. At least JAR had an excuse with his autism

>1977942

I never seen this pic/tiktok of her. Did you grab it before she purged her socials of her face? But man, no wonder she larps as a child. Girlie is over here looking like she's 40 in her 20's. Also this person was calling people fat whores? The call is within the house.

No. 1978018

>>1978005
Kek peaches used her irl name to like her own shit so it wasn’t hard to track her. Can’t show it for obvious rule reasons but sheesh. A LOT of her actions are starting to make sense given her background

No. 1978089

It’s funny how Lio is trying to give off this unbothered vibe when literally everyone on all sides know that’s he’s seething and throwing a fit behind the scenes. Kek no amount of miku content is gonna stop him from being jumped in the comments

No. 1978130

>>1977605
>Lio obviously has a thing for butches or femboys, since he encouraged Mint heart and Peaches to troon out after they were being adopted.
tinfoil: I think that's just an excuse to abuse them harder. I know with at least one of them as soon as they came out he started withdrawing support and demanding that they "be a man" "man up" etc.

Granted as usual most of the people involved are horrible people themselves, but Lio's collection of maladjusted little girls also appear to be people whose families neglected to teach them any useful life skills whatsoever and they would genuinely be fucked without the support of another adult. All of these retards needed to have been in occupational therapy and DBT to fix their shit but what they got instead was psycho daddy rp.

No. 1978161

>>1978130
> All of these retards needed to have been in occupational therapy and DBT to fix their shit but what they got instead was psycho daddy rp.

This but specifically for Peaches. Instead of actually doing the work to heal from her abuse and trauma ( assuming that she’s telling the truth) , she decided to rant on Twitter about how her psychiatrist isn’t helping and being toxic and continued to be chronically online. I’m pretty sure her psychiatrist called her the fuck out with hard truths too

No. 1978165

>>1978161
I've noticed that whenever Peaches burns a bridge it's always the fault of the other person, and it will continue to be.

No. 1978174

>>1978161
Oh my fucking god I’m going through peaches testimony right now and she can’t help but blame everyone but herself ! She claims that she was feeling suicidal from the guilt over the Rosa call. Bitch that’s like the 5th time you’ve suicide baited are you not tired ?!

No. 1978292

So while this downfall for Lio and Peaches has been pretty neat to see since both parties are not great at all, is anyone else getting annoyed of these people using the word "degenerate" so fucking much? I swear, I wish they could find another word to describe some of this BS because that word has been so heavily used and it's just so annoying lol.

No. 1978296

>>1978292
It’s overused but words like pervert, deviant and retarded aren’t as strong lol

Anyway I’m so invested in seeing everyone’s responses to this and how this affects everything. People like Ponder are radio silent on the matter because they’re waiting on Lio to drop a response which makes sense but I have another theory. They actually don’t give a fuck about peaches at all really. She’s just that annoying bitch they have to deal with to avoid being dogpiled. Notice how whenever events like Vidcon or irl meetups happen between ACC creators, she’s never invited? She’s literally the elephant in the room that you need to tip toe around and cater to her every need. This is also a big reason why she doesn’t have irl friends either because she’s so toxic kek

No. 1978320

>>1978292
they are correct though. Lio associated with filthy degenerates like doodle, and is a degenerate himself for hoarding barely legal mentally ill girls. Peaches is a degen too for being in the FCK server and roleplaying DDLG with Lio. Also, almost everyone involved is a flavour of gendie lol.

No. 1978327

>>1978296
I do think the reason she's not invited to meetups is because she's a poor bonger, and too lazy to travel to America. But it's funny to think that she probably has zero irl friends kek

No. 1978354

>>1977904
Honestly it’s why I’m grateful for people like Leigha, it’s nice to have someone who’s generally unbiased analyze these claims, Kai makes good points on Peaches and Senate but being in this community for 4 years and going against everyone from Tobi to Lio and everyone in between has made it so that Kai has such a hatred that he just can’t put aside anymore, not that I blame him but it’s very much an issue when it comes to things like staying on topic in streams

No. 1978374

>>1978296
AYRT and fair enough kek. And I agree with what you said, it's pretty funny how the bigger players in the senate have still remained silent even after Hopeless Peaches' statement came out. I think you're right that deep down most of them probably didn't a fuck about her and you can't blame them necessarily because she really is annoying. But But still, I have a feeling that Lio is going to play the waiting game until the drama calms down because the only people really talking about are Akumu, Kumo, Enlaa, Leigha, and Cope and Seethe and frankly they are small channels who are mostly making long streams that not many people are going to be willing to sit through. It'll be shorter videos that go over the topic that will truly get the word out.

No. 1978376

you know something I've been wondering about with Lio and the whole "found family" thing is how many of the people involved clam that hey have abusive parents. I know that Peaches claims her family was abusive and Mint Heart was being SA'd by her mother's boyfriend (IIRC?) but I'm curious about the others. Were they really being abused or is it just something like their parents not validating their retarded gender BS and/or making them get a job and/or pay rent or something?

I'm just finding it a bit concerning how so many of those in the senate make this claim of having abusive parents.

No. 1978381

Crystal dropped a call with a user named JibzThePig, Lio, Serafina, Peaches, and some other Senate members

>The context of this is that Jibz was groomed by Vida and started talking to him again between 17-18, call happened around the time of the Coyote Lovely shit

>Peaches, LumitroArt (Peaches’ partner), and someone named Cosmic used this in Peaches’ “fuck you letter” without Jibz’s permission so they’re making this video
>Jibz relapsed into speaking with Vida again, he asked Jibz for a minor’s discord to contact them
>Call starts, goes over Jibz and why Jibz and Vida started talking again because Jibz didn’t wanna cut Vida off
>Lio immediately says he’ll call Jibz’s parents while knowing Jibz’s home life was rough
>Lio: “Wanna tell me what was so valuable about Vida that you contacted him again?” I dunno Lio I’d figure the predator hunter would have found out that predators tend to be manipulative of their victims
>Lio KNEW Jibz’s family would hurt them if they found out but still threatens to call them
>Lio: “WAH WAH YOU LIED TO ME”
>Peaches and co lied about Jibz being physically abused, Jibz was emotionally abused and neglected but not beaten
>They accused Jibz of being manipulative and attention seeking for relapsing
>Lio repeatedly asks Jibz what the final straw was, when Jibz doesn’t remember Lio gets aggressive and starts demanding an answer constantly
>Lio angrily tells Jibz to go get the logs, Jibz says they were all deleted
>Lio acknowledges Jibz was 17 and barely 18 doing this but was old enough to “know better” Our protector of kids ladies and gentlemen!
>Serafina and others in the call apologized for this, Jibz asks to not involve them
>Jibz plans to make another reply later
>Lio asks if Jibz filed a report, Jibz starts to give an answer and Lio snarkily shouts for just a yes or no, Jibz says no, starts explaining and Lio cuts Jibz off
>Jibz didn’t finish the police report, they started to again but the call made Jibz decide not to out of fear of their family
>Lio says Jibz facilitated Vida grooming another kid because of being manipulated into talking with Vida again
>Lio apparently said this to other victims then backtracked on this sentiment to get Jibz off his ass, no wonder Peaches loved him so much
>Lio: “You hid your interactions with Vida and that he preyed on another child! Why?!” Gee maybe it’s cuz they were also a child and Vida had been manipulating them for years from the sounds of it
>This kid wasn’t even groomed, just talked to Vida, Jibz acknowledges this was still bad and irresponsible
>Lio: “You like talking to a guy who wants to put his hands on kids, you, “I’m such a lesbian I wouldn’t like a guy” Fucking wow, and there it is, the proof Lio is nowhere near as much of a progressive “you’re valid” daddy as he acts
>Screenshot of multiple Senate members mocking Jibz, Lio calls Jibz an idiot and mock Vida trying to give them his surname
>Lio and the Senate did lesbiphobic shit multiple times, typical moid behavior
>Lio snaps at staff for staying muted and literally screams, according to Peaches’ text box in the video this happened often also more of Peaches “He did this to me while age regressing wahhhhh” lmao
>Jibz was sensitive to yelling as a trigger and cuz they have a syndrome that could cause a fucking heart attack, Lio risked someone’s health cuz he can’t stop being bitchy
>Multiple Senate members unmute and shame Jibz
>???(I think BusyRobotHands): “We’re not shaming you for anything” yet you call Jibz an idiot in chat, mock the grooming, are ganging on them. JFC these people were grown adults letting Lio go off on a teen/barely legal person and getting intimidated. There’s no excuse they’re just bootlickers, IDC about “manipulation” your fucking mid 20s-30s is old enough to be able to stand up to this man baby and not dogpile a kid
>Lio apologized for the call but Peaches had to make him, he didn’t apologize for any other calls with Jibz which were worse, between this and Mushroom Girl it seems like Peaches had at least some standards for the kids in the Senate and how far Lio would go, still a fucking snake but slightly less horrible than Lio
>Lio told Jibz “I’m sorry you got used as a cudgel against me” on the 18th of March. No Lio, you’re sorry your toxic, abusive, misogynistic, lesbiphobic, fat ass got called out bullshit got called out
>Lio: “Dont make me yell at you like I did with the rest of my staff” this is more scummy knowing that could give Jibz a fucking heart attack
>Lio apparently used sexually explicit language like “dick down little girls” and “human flesh light to Vida” behind the scenes, if you needed more reason to believe he’s a creep here you go. Ironic cuz Lio got onto someone for calling someone a human flesh light as well
>Jibz tried hard to cut off the minor and Vida
>Lio, Busy, and Serafina go off on Jibz for sitting on it for a while
>Lio asks if Jibz and this minor are still in contact, Jibz says they’re added but the two haven’t talked, Lio goes off cuz “I didn’t ask for the details, yes or no” Jibz has to explain the situation was messy and the answer couldn’t be that simple, Jibz is only fucking 20 but more mature than a near 40 year old
>Lio says for Jibz to invite this person who contacted Vida who was a MINOR (keep in mind Senate is 18+ but may have been 16+ at the time) to the server or he’ll find the minor and call their parents, having no idea what their parents may be like and says he’ll do it live in call, fucking sadistic
>Lio mocks Jibz for not being consumed by the trauma of Vida cuz Jordyn is still affected (ironic knowing how Lio treated Jordyn) god forbid someone doesn’t play into your broken woman fetish Lio, mentions Jibz being obsessed with Vida’s “two inch erect dick”, again, our hero everyone!
>Lio (harshly): “You lied to my face and went behind our backs while working on the Vida video. How many more times did you ERP and get sent voice messages about licking your body after that? Tell me.” JFC this is physically sickening
>Peaches: “This was when Jibz was still a minor so can you not ask those questions?” I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD AGREE WITH FUCKING PEACHES BUT HERE WE ARE
>Lio: “They’re 18 now” Peaches: “They’re 18 NOW can you not ask those questions please?!” Peaches being right wasn’t on my bingo card but here we fucking are
>Jibz didn’t come out sooner due to fear, stress, and irl life stuff

Overall this just proved to me Peaches, Lio, and the rest of the Senate don’t give a fuck about minors or their trauma, Lio mocked Jibz multiple times and Peaches used this call to look like the hero (that may even be the reason for speaking up at the end). Fuck this scrote and fuck people like Doodletones for defending him or staying “neutral”

No. 1978386

>>1978376
I think the only one that was explicitly abused was Mint heart. Opal mentioned that her relationship with her father was strained while her mother was chill. Peaches however has stated a few times that her relationship is relatively fine. In one of her panhandling streams she was talking about her former job as a waitress and she could make her parents yell at the manager like a bunch of Karens kek. She also mentioned on Twitter shortly before the coyotelovely situation that she was watching a new movie with her mom. So here’s the question: if you’re on good terms with your dad and your mom, exactly what is Lio supposed to be? It doesn’t sound like you ever needed a “father figure”, peaches.

No. 1978389

>>1978386
Thanks for the slight context. With Opal, I don't know much about her but is she a gender tard? If so, I suspect her strain could be her father not validating her gender crap if this is correct. As for Peaches, well fuck then why did she need a "father figure" if her relationship with her father was fine? Maybe her parents don't baby her and she was seeking that out with Lio? That's the only thing I can think of because aside from that, she didn't need one.

No. 1978404

>>1978381
"Lumitro (Peaches' partner)"
Sorry, did I completely miss something? Lumi and Peaches are dating?

No. 1978407

>>1978389
Opal slightly gendertarded because she’s a biological woman but goes by “she/they” to feel special kek. But from what I remember, she met Lio because of the Lily Orchard situation where that troon freak wrote mlp pedophile Stockholm fanfic

No. 1978469

>>1978404
I think this is recent. Remember Peaches is a serial cheater. She was probably flirting with Lumitro a couple weeks ago when the Rosa call got leaked and needed to throw Lio under the bus.

Honestly I don't feel bad for anyone who dates Peaches at this point. If their history isn't a red flag then I don't know what to say

No. 1978472

>>1978469
Putting money on "Lumitro groomed/abused me" in a few years

No. 1978477

>>1978469
Wait but aren’t they “siblings”? I dunno even if it’s an adoptive family, if you can’t differentiate familial bonds with romantic ones then you’re a freak. This also supports the theory that she was in a relationship with Lio kek if she keeps blurring the lines like that

No. 1978492

I don't have ss of it, but from my kowledge the Senate is pretty much dead, and in it's stead, both "The House" and "The Supreme Court" have popped up. They might be the same but I'm not sure. Either way, chronically online retards need their groups I guess kek.

>>1978477
Lumitro wasn't one of the adopted kids to my knowledge. Opal, Mint, Jay/Pink, and Peaches were. I have no idea where people are getting the idea that they're dating from.

No. 1978494

>>1978492
> Senate, Supreme court, the House

Bet you anything Peaches is in both the house and supreme court. What's the point of the senate going down when two more pop up in it's place? like a god damn hydra

No. 1978497

>>1978404
AYRT, on Peaches’ rebel Twitter there was a tweet along the lines of “Lumi is the only allowed to simp over me” I wish I could find it but sadly you’ll have to take my word for it so I just assumed they were dating

>>1978492
Any idea of who still may be in Senate besides Lio? Also I heard about those servers in Leigha’s stream, apparently they just use the “template” of the Senate. Apparently Serafina also has a server, not sure if it’s one of those but regardless of if it is I don’t doubt that it’ll probably just lead to the same shit after a while or die off without Lio and Peaches’ popularity. In general making argument servers is a shit idea and the last thing this community needs. I genuinely hope these don’t catch on because of what Senate was. Senate itself was a rebrand of a server called Barrel after Vida got outed so history repeating itself doesn’t seem unlikely

No. 1978505

>>1978497
That's a common fake-out that Peaches uses to convince people she's not straight. She used to do it with Malimalware too. The House is owned by Serafina as far as I know whom also started the Senate before leaving. If these servers aren't ACC or "Predator Hunting" focused, I don't see them as becoming anything more than your typical Discord circlejerk. I can't imagine Peaches being in either of them considering alot of the Senate former Senate hates her right now for going against Lio. I think she's just going to rebrand in the future and probably try to distance herself from The Senate as much as possible. I might be wrong because we know she's terminally online.

No. 1978508

>>1978505
Well Peaches has a week before her channel is gone for good. You're right, she is terminally online. I'm sure on the last day she'll change her mind because some "hero" convinced her to not kill herself and bring her channel back.

No. 1978512

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Lio really wants his wife to dress as a 14 year old anime character. he has to be a closeted Lolicon.(retardation)

No. 1978514

>>1978508
>because some "hero" convinced her to not kill herself and bring her channel back.
Fucking kek, I see this happening, who do you think the "hero" would more than likely be? I feel like it could be Malimalware since she's been super quiet about things and her recent video seems like it could be a secret type of message to Peaches.

No. 1978520

>>1978512
reaching a bit here. Every weeb woman dresses as a sailor moon at some point

No. 1978554

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I’m not familiar with this commentary youtuber but I think she nailed it on the head. I’m not doubting that Lio was abusive but I don’t think he was abusive to her. Peaches has this consistent thing where she calls someone their abuser even when they haven’t done anything to her. Think back to when she tried to accuse Kai and Omnia as being her abuser for …. exposing her loli art ( kek) .

No. 1978562

>>1978554
The only way Lio was "abusive" to her was yelling at her, which he does to everyone, this whole "age regressing" bullshit is just her trying to cover her tracks from the very obvious ddlg shit. She's a narc. It's always someone else's fault, never hers.

No. 1978615

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More information about Peaches being weird af around minors has come to light. A 16-17 called out lio and peaches for being bullies and they decided to be sexual around the poor. This event happened in July 2023 and peaches decided to go after Camillia

No. 1978617

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Zach, who dubbed himself as “lios twink secretary” and senate mod, will be sharing their testimony of a situation that happened to him in the Senate. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Lio was being a degenerate around him either

No. 1978625

>>1978512
Why are so many people obsessed with posting Lio’s wife? She’s as tired of Peaches’ BS as we all have been and should we even be doing it considering the whole “don’t post family members” rule? Not trying to minimod or anything, genuinely asking

>>1978554
I’d be cautious with Jesska Pizzle since she played Creepshow Art’s white knight back when she was exposed (vidrel). While she’s right about Peaches being quick to call every ex friend an abuser it wouldn’t shock me if she’s only speaking to white knight for Shannon a bit more. (repost i fucked up the replies)

No. 1978628

>>1978625
>Why are so many people obsessed with posting Lio’s wife?
She's an enabler. Simple as. There is no innocence in this scenario. She allowed this to happen under her roof. The Daughters only think of her as an angel because she wasn't the one actively abusing them. This is dysfunctional family 101.

No. 1978633

>>1978615
You’re shocked when this is the same Lio who called mocked a barely 18 year old’s grooming as a kid by talking about their groomer wanting to lick their body and how Vida “gave them his two inch dick”?

>>1978617
Zak was mentioned in one of Leigha’s streams about how he faked leaving Senate. Apparently he joined in April 2023 and is “freshly 18” according to Leigha’s chat so he probably joined as a minor too. At about 2:46:03 in vidrel Leigha starts covering the stream Zak and Lin Lin did about the situation with Senate/Lio/Peaches

No. 1978712

>>1978554

iirc peaches was on the chat during lio's premiere on his video on kai that he made when he chickened out on a debate he agreed to, saying kai was "sexually humiliating" her all becus he got some of his sources on lio from gilded and the fox mafia KEK
peaches has this habit of stretching details to both victimize herself or make the other party look much worse than it really is

No. 1978811

>>1978554
we don't need to excuse creepshow now, the petty revenge campaign she did against peach is still insane behavior. It's just funny that peach ended up morphing into shannon

No. 1978918

>>1978811
I know I probably should just try to search this on my own but if you're open, do you think you could give a TL;DR on what Shannon did to Peaches? Like did she do the same stalking and harassment on her that she did to Emily Artful? Or was it just like insulting her appearance or something?

No. 1978932

welp, I guess it's safe to say that Lio will remain silent about Peaches throwing him under the bus. That guy is so whipped. He'll make a video on someone for sneazing but Peaches over here gets nothing.

He's a POS for sure. But I can't believe that Peaches threw her number 1 defender under the bus. I do think Lio is abusive, but I agree he was never abusive towards Peaches. The guy is in love.

No. 1978947

>>1978932
I wouldn't be too sure anon. He's quiet right now but I suspect he's gonna wait a good while until he mentions her again, I don't think he'll devote a ton of attention about it but still, I have a suspicion that he's not too happy about what Peaches throwing him under the bus.

I think what will more than likely determine this though is if Lio tries to start another Discord server to have a clean slate sortaspeak.

No. 1978992

>>197894
Hopefully Lio is just stalling and collecting enough evidence for a video. Not evidence for redeeming himself, but enough to take down Peaches with him. He knows that his credibility is basically shot so he’d better go and expose the rest of the goons that stood by him

No. 1978998

>>1978918
All Shannon did was lie at Peaches was mean to her. Emily, who arguably has a reason to still be talking about Shannon and her husband to this day because she was stalked for almost a decade and raped, has not spoken about her since probably because she has her own husband and child to raise. She spoke her piece and then dropped it. Peaches only claim to fame was Shannon lying about her and "contributing to her attempt on her life". She has no real reason to still be talking about Shannon or acting like she was this huge victim of her.

No. 1979000

>>1978998
what sucks about Shannon lying about that one thing is that every other shitty thing Peaches has done at that time was thrown out the window.

Technically what Shannon said was a half lie. Peaches was shit talking other friends behind their back.

No. 1979002

>>1979000
That was the issue with the Peaches drama as a whole. Everyone lumped every criticism that she had thrown against her together and when she started crying about how she made a suicide attempt, people gave her asspats and threw everything else out the window to treat her like a victim. Since then, everyone was walking on eggshells around her and just like streamline workshop said, this just enabled her worst habits and now here we are. The timing of her drama with everything else just aligned perfectly to let her get away with it all.

No. 1979003

>>1978998
Emily hasn’t mentioned Creepshow since making a retrospective on it in 2022 (where Shannon wasn’t even name dropped) yet Peaches has gone on about it forever since 2020. It’s clear why, Emily has a husband, kids, job, and a real life outside the internet, she’s said that she doesn’t make drama videos because she just doesn’t have time for it, meanwhile Peaches seems to have nothing irl and has constantly surrounded herself in drama (or felonies that Senate turned into drama)

>>1979000
You’re part right, the whole reason the Peaches drama happened was cuz Peaches had to stick into the Tobi drama and white knight her and Prison Mate Luke and others tore those tweets apart and the whole “I’m just about done goodbye” tweets. Shannon didn’t necessarily lie but she did blow a bunch of shit out of proportion or try to frame it as worse than it actually was which is why people were able to dismiss Prison Mate Luke, Omnia, and Kai’s videos, cuz they fell into the same traps as Shannon by making it seem like a world ending event instead of what it bluntly was: Peaches being a bitch.

No. 1979112

>>1978918
she lied about Peaches being a bad friend. Then told every youtuber she knew that Peaches is scum. It's not that big of a deal on its own, but in the art commentary community, people pick one subject to hate on for a few weeks, so a big number of nonsensical callout videos came about peaches, throwing accusations like being racist for arguing with a black girl or something. Peaches couldn't use this drama to defend her shitty behavior if it wasn't the gigantic mess it was. Because it was, and the other anon is not being fully honest.

No. 1979115

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says the one who was trying to fuck Sappho..

No. 1979156

>>1979115
Fucking called it! I mentioned that now that Senate is being called out everyone who had drama with them was gonna use it to wash their hands of any wrongdoings. I also knew Coyote Lovely was gonna be one of the first to do it because of how big his callout was. This exact same shit happened when Kai and Creepshow were called out, now everyone who’s ever had beef with them is claiming “See? I’m innocent, they’re the bad ones!” Fuck Coyote as well because he was one of the longer Senate members and let Lio pull his BS while claiming to care about kids

No. 1979201

>>1979112
>she lied about Peaches being a bad friend
no that was one of the things that was true.

No. 1979208

>>1979112
That's stupid as fuck to drag out for this long regardless and also Shannon wasn't even wrong about it kek.

No. 1979222

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It’s kinda strange that seems to even be secretive about this to his friends, people like Doodle are out here saying they’re “waiting for Lio’s side” but shouldn’t the people he knows personally be some of the first he wants to prove his innocence to? It’s obvious Doodle is just trying to white knight him, the CC isn’t “reserving judgement” they picked a side already and will continue associating with Lio even if/when his response is shit

No. 1979238

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FuchsiaButter has made a statement on the FCK stuff, formatted this kind of weird so for context the left side is the first and second parts and the right is the third and fourth. Thoughts?

Full thread: https://twitter.com/FuchsiaButters/status/1771062759993594104

No. 1979257

>>1979238
This apology sucks balls and shifts blame so hard between "I was traumatized" or "Toasty made me"

Nobody in this community can take proper accountability lol.

No. 1979271

because to them an apology is an admission of guilt. I mean, not being perverts in front of kids should be easy enough. And honestly being a dick isn't a crime. It's just they made it into one

No. 1979295

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Patchwork Heart released a doc
>This >>1977761 was part of a video Lio is/was going to make and Lio was fully aware of Patch being coerced into the Lily Orchard stuff, and Patch’s partner forgave them so I additionally question why this is being brought up by Lio
>Lio is also defending someone named Weebus who tried coercing Patch into sexual shit
>Lio tried weaponizing some zoophile hunting acc Patch was a part of
>Lio was unhelpful when Patch was falsely accused or harassed multiple times
>Lio didn’t take Jordyn to a psychiatrist when Jordyn started showing symptoms of a disorder
>Lio associated with someone named Ruza after they threatened to kill themselves on call unless Patch got someone to talk with them
>Says Lio has a victim complex
>This all happened when Patch was talking good about Lio to Zena and Poppy (those two may be familiar names if you follow the Lily Orchard thread or the drama around LO)

I don’t really know if this is necessarily milk but I still found it interesting lots of this behavior that Lio didn’t do anything about shows that Lio certainly has a type he seems to like hanging around with
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11bcaaWUFN5_LAMEAwHUifdzDe3vTSpHk8INKtNZ343E

No. 1979297

Same anon but here’s the video/stream Patch mentioned by Cope And Seethe Podcast as 1:58:02 they start going over Lio’s script on Mint Heart / Jordyn / Jay I haven’t finished watching it yet but it’s honestly really telling the way Lio talks about them

No. 1979299

Three more days until Peaches can't recover their youtube and socials. I have my fingers crossed

No. 1979304

>>1979299
While we’re speaking of Peaches did the doc exposing Lio give anyone else “Shannon’s response to Emily Artful” vibes? Especially the whole “they hurt me so much” with blatant lies and the random snipes at Kumo and Omnia towards the end, it felt exactly like Shannon getting snippy at her siblings and Tipster and both claim being online has hurt them oh so much and have said they won’t be returning (which is probably a lie in both cases). Like jeez she was a desperate imitation of Creepshow to the end, the only difference being Lio’s an actual creep who deserved being called out

No. 1979305

>>1979257

> nobody in this community can take proper accountability lol


and yet they'll be the first to nitpick on apologies and preach about how "it's not hard to take accountability" when it's on anyone BUT themselves
we already saw from nezzie where the first thing she did when confronted on her participation on the fck degeneracy was to pull an hero and cry about how akumu just did it to "ruin her life" or w/e.
if they're not shifting blame they're being over dramatic about it kek

No. 1979311

>>1979305
Speaking of Nezzie does anyone else find it disappointing that everyone except for Peaches and Toasty Vanilla have basically gotten off scot free? Nezzie’s streaming on Twitch like nothing happened after playing the victim a bit more, Nawnii rebranded months ago and has been on an alt acc drawing MLP or whatever and was able to ignore it, Fuchsia got away with it cuz of trauma (which while I do feel for Fuchsia cuz sexual abuse and trauma is a bitch you need to acknowledge “yeah I fucked up” somewhere in your statement), Miss Zi Zi (arguably the worst aside from Toasty) got off with an “I don’t remember it well” and “I’ve changed”, MadLibbs made a thread and took some decent accountability but as Omnia has said it should not have taken an account threatening to leak screenshots for her to make an apology, TheNamesJunkie has been irrelevant for years and just quietly deleted his socials,. Even Peaches got off ever since making the thread about how “Lio was so cruel” and turned all remaining eyes to Lio after DFE and Toasty briefly tried and failed a rebrand and also has also DFE’d it seems. These people got off way too easy for the shit they did to kids

No. 1979331

>>1979305
I also find it fucking hilarious how Nezzie came back like barely even a few days after her blow up with "back from grippy sock vacation" (I'll grab screenshots when I get the chance if nobody beats me to it) and has been apparently fine ever since. Nezzie is such a sympathy seeker it's unreal.

No. 1979334

>>1979331
>>1979311
Nezzie is just as bad as Peaches when it comes to using suicide and mental health as a shield from taking accountability for their actions. All she has to do is scream that she's going to kill herself and people immediately start fawning over her.

No. 1979336

>>1979334
The only rare case I believe someone when it comes to mental health or attempting scuicide is when they're gone for 6+ months. None of these people ever do that lol

No. 1979354

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Doodletones has possibly pulled a Kai and struck down one of Akumu’s videos. Doodle tries to defend it by showing the takedown requests tab on YouTube but as Leigha points out a privacy complaint won’t show up in those, shows how far the remaining Senate members are willing to go to try to silence criticisms of Lio. Saged cuz this is admittedly still a bit tinfoil

No. 1979355

>>1979354
Nah this isn’t even tinfoil. I fully believe that Doodletones struck it down because akumu poked holes in his stupid “groomed into diaper fetish” backstory. I hate that gross pretend woman gooner so much. His videos are shit despite always being 2-8 hours and are filled with shit pseudo intellectual jargon and art that hasn’t improved in a decade. Fuck Doodletones for hiding behind the likes of Jar and lio convoy for protection from rightful criticism

No. 1979370

>>1979355
I like that in leigha's stream everyone was making fun of DoodleDiapers shitty artwork lmao

No. 1979381

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Someone on Twitter posted a statement by SeaPrincessOpal, overall it’s Opal stating that being in Senate was unhealthy for her.
>She had been involved in drama related to people in the brony fandom and Senate since she was 15.
>She became terminally online posting about Lily Orchard and lolicons.
>Opal also clarifies she actually left Lio first about a year and a half ago
>Clarifies their relationship wasn’t sexual at all or DDLG (did Kiwi accuse them of that? I thought it was just lolcow but I don’t lurk Kiwi)
>She wants to be there for Lio’s other former kids
>She hasn’t kept up with Senate since the Coyote stuff.
>She, Lio, and other Senate members recieved Rule 34 hate Art (links deleted) and hate Art from Kiwifarms (links don’t work properly but someone please post that KF art it would be hilarious).
>One thing of note was Opal, while apologizing for hurting anyone in Senate, mentions she has memory issues and can’t remember all her time in Senate well which got me thinking, did Opal tell Lio about her memory issues, then Lio told Peaches and is Peaches now using Opal’s memory issues as their own to get more ammo against Lio?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AqZzukeMk4yRiubtu64lTp4W1b3Kx6bc965-lQK7xwo/edit
https://twitter.com/CXRPSE_BXNNY/status/1770857949772071000

No. 1979382

>>1979370
Doodledone's craptastic art is such an enigma. The dude doesn't have an IRL job nor does he go to school, he has nothing but time to practice and get better at his art but he's simply that lazy and it's hilarious how his art skill has not improved at all in over a decade. Maybe instead of making pointless commentary videos, he should devote that time to practicing.

No. 1979385

>>1979382
Everyone in the ACC has shitty art to be honest. The best one skill wise is Ponder Sprocket but she has that disgusting thick lines and ugly colors western style. They all need to go outside, touch grass, maybe attent figure drawing classes.

No. 1979425

>>1979355
I feel you anon, he's the definition of pretentious and when you look at him for what he is, he really is pathetic and doesn't have anything going for him. Crap videos, crap art, I mean come on. I think his big problem is that he's so sucked into his little anime uwu girl persona with the fake voice changer and doesn't focus on his actual life.

No. 1979426

>>1979385
>Everyone in the ACC has shitty art to be honest.
You know, that's fair. I was trying to think if there were any art that I liked from ACC people but I honestly can't think of any that had an appealing style to me. Ponder definitely is the most technical but I admit I'm not into the heavy Western style but that's personal taste. Honestly though, I can see her making an official Western comic and seeing it in a comic shop.

No. 1979433

>>1979382
>>1979385
>>1979426
I think it's because autism, it makes it hard to reach beyond your cognitive restrictions and become "good" at art (which I assume most people here would say some weeb shit, or realism, since one of you is shitting on western style)
Blogposting but, I had a deeply autistic guy in one of my art classes and he improved but he never got out of his "autistic" and more childlike style. Since I'm an artist I didn't mind it since it had an unique expression, but most ACC people tend to mimic cartoony or weeby styles and are super shit at it.

Honestly the best artist is Peaches out of ACC/Senate (Maybe Serafina if she makes her own stills) kek. It's the only good thing she has going for her.

No. 1979445

>>1979433
In my opinion thumin, ponder had the best technical skill in the ACC. I just wish Thumin would try something new for once instead of the usual anime girl. Ponder’s art is great but gets weighed down by those gaudy harsh shading. If you count callimara as part of the acc then her art is also pretty good. But everyone else’s is either super shitty or has remained stagnant since 2020

No. 1979446

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Holy fuck nonnas sorry for cutting into art discussion time but MaliMalware just dropped a statement on peaches and lio and this part stood out to me
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Uvl1TI6JOtQFsRDtdF60S8rDHvoojnjvdjcl-2PGUk/edit?usp=sharing

No. 1979463

>>1979446
People have been saying since forever that Peaches is incredibly vindictive so this is no surprise. She's definitely some flavor of cluster B, possibly histrionic/narcissist.

No. 1979466

>>1979446
Wouldn’t shock me, Peaches has been vitriolic to everyone who didn’t get involved with the drama from 2020 and Mali is friends with basically the whole art cc or people frequently involved with it like Thumin and PrettyCringey who both pissed Peaches off. Speaking of Thumin I heard in one of Leigha’s streams chats that Thumin would be making a video about the situation (wouldn’t shock me since she’s been tweeting about it) and I wonder, would a video from Thumin as well as the video from HarleyTBS be enough to bury the remaining parts of the Senate with how large both their platforms are and how they both reach outside the ACC?

No. 1979477

>>1979446
This throws peaches’ “uwu he manipulated me this entire time” statement because if Mali said that she had a hold over Lio and made him pressure her, then there was no power imbalance. They were both toxic

No. 1979478

>>1979446
and yet Mali banned Patchwork heart out of her server…not buying Mali's bullshit.(learn to sage)

No. 1979481

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>>1979478
Screencaps? Also speaking of Patchwork Heart and leaving Discord servers this is apparently how Senate is talking about Patch now that they’ve left, honestly this shit is definitely some kind of cult, the second you leave unless you’re Lio’s (formerly) favorite little sub-I mean daughter, Peaches, you’re completely shit talked and lambasted. Also yes that is Baiji the Dolphin Vore man, Lio is still friends with him and keeps him in his server despite him owning drawn zoophilic porn and Lio being the first to call out how “it’s still gross if it’s drawn” Tobi flashbacks lmfao >>1774814

No. 1979482

>>1979446
I love that the ghost of Shannon looms large over all of this KEK. Once again she was right about Peaches being a horrible friend and Mali echoed what she said as well. Also Mali still comes off as very unreliable to me, she's just as bad as everyone else that's jumping ship from Lio, Peaches, and Senate to save their own asses.

No. 1979484

>>1979482
she was the main one who would baby and enable Peaches' behavior so I don't know why she is acting so surprised to find out Peaches was a shit friend. lol(sage your shit)

No. 1979485

>>1979484
Actually I’m glad that Mali is speaking up. She was Peaches’ biggest supporter and defender. A whole stupid therapist interview and a “welcome back peaches” animatic was made for her so mali can be seen as reliable for making this statement. Plus she isn’t like a shit person or anything kek. Just chose the wrong friend to white Knight.

No. 1979493

Leigha’s in stream going over the Coyote stuff and the Jibz Call

No. 1979524

>>1979433
That's another fair point anon. I won't lie, I'm autistic myself and I do like simplistic art styles like for example, I'm not sure if TheStarFishFace is considered a ACC artist but I think her art style is cute and it's not the most detailed art style out there. Or how the art looked like in Scott Pilgrim takes off, super simplistic but I found it cute.

But I also like stylized art like Cosmic Spectrum and Fungzao. But I'm just not into super western style or super realism, it does nothing for me beyond being impressed when someone manages to draw that detailed to mimicking real life.

But going back to Doodletones, at least the other's art styles no matter how basic or lacking fundamentals, at least it actually has something of a somewhat style while Doodle's just looks like something a 8 year old drew when the man is pushing 30. Autistic or not, you'd think he'd develop a more fleshed out cartoony style.

No. 1979541

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>>1979466
Thumin has the largest amount of yt followers since Creepshow Art left so it would be a huge impact if she ever decides to come out with a video. Also Harleytbs and thumin confirmed that peaches was talking behind their backs and playing the mean girl

No. 1979558

>>1979541
Peaches being a two faced bitch shouldn't be a big deal. It's just Peaches shot herself in the foot by making this uwu innocent victim persona. So now it's a big deal.

No. 1979575

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Correction but >>1979481 is apparently from Queen Serafina’s Supreme Court server meaning Serafina is associating with Dolphin Man not only that but apparently JAR is talking about the situation behind the scenes, him bringing up Akumu being a POC minor when the ACC went at him is so funny because you know he’d cry if anyone else did that. Akumu has an interesting point about how Lio is suspiciously quiet about the Supreme Court having Baiji in it maybe because then he’d have to admit he kept the creep around too, there’s another picture in the tweet but it’s just showing Baiji sending the Dolphin Image to Akumu and I don’t think any of us wanna see that

No. 1979582

>>1979558
Kek so Peaches is going apeshit and releasing a “LioConvoy abused me” manifesto, only to get a collective eyeroll from the very people she backstabbed. I wonder how Peaches thought the scenario was supposed to go ?

No. 1979598

>>1979575
>He hasn't groomed anyone or posted loli or anything
What, so has JAR reneged on his loli stance? I remember popping into his server for like 5 seconds a couple years back and immediately seeing fuckloads of lolicon in the NSFW chat.

No. 1979601

>>1979575
Man if it isn't a little girl he can groom into hisweird little family he really doesn't give a fuck about kids

JAR really said Akumu is a minor and Lio is upset he knows a pedo? Like bro no, be worried for him. Also what's up with these people being more upset at people just in a pedo's space and not the actual pedo??? Because they don't really care that's why(sage your shit)

No. 1979663

>>1978296
Anon you were right to an extent. I think the ACC genuinely did care enough to coddle and protect her when the creepshow art drama happened, but then quickly regretted when they realized that if Shannon was wrong about everything else, she was at least correct on peaches. Seeing how other creators were bonding irl and peaches being nowhere to be seen was the first hint that something was off. Let’s be honest if peaches really wanted to come to America she could’ve started another stupid gofundme or get her “daddy” to fund her. The reality is that Peaches is a terminally online NEET, with no friends, no boyfriend, and no hobbies outside of being a toxic leech. She’s probably just maladaptive dreaming and using her uwu anime girl persona art to fuel her delusions.

No. 1979847

I finally read all of Peaches's statment. It's all just one long suicide bait
"Lio made me self hard and made me try to kill myself three times"
sure jan. jfc

No. 1979922

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She's still e-begging, albeit to a much smaller audience. She is supposedly starting a "new job" in 6 weeks so here's hoping she stays gone for good for the foreseeable future. I have a feeling she'll come back to bitch about Lio's response once he officially makes his kek.

No. 1979924

>>1979847
>One long suicide bait
Hopefully people don't fall for this this time, it should be obvious by now how she plays this stupid game of rinse repeat.

No. 1980015

>>1979922
>Peaches e begging
Yeah, She'll be back. It hasn't even been a month since Lio stopped paying her bills and the lazy fat ass is already begging for cash from her friends and fans. You can count on Peaches to scream and suicide bait her "friends" to give her money for rent and her parents for food. What a parasite

Also, Peaches rebranding as a gay raccoon femboy era to capture a new audience?
Also Peaches: "the Internet drove me to self harm and nearly kill myself. But I miss you guys sooo much. You're my family. Here's my commission! Support me or I'll really do it this time!"
I'm so sick of Peaches lying about fake hospital visits. I know it's sick, but I would have to see pics/ videos of wounds to believe her. Prison mate Luke was right. She does suicide bait whenever she's in trouble.

No. 1980022

>>1980015
>You can count on Peaches to scream and suicide bait her "friends" to give her money for rent and her parents for food. What a parasite
Add a truly awful "friend".

>I'm so sick of Peaches lying about fake hospital visits. I know it's sick, but I would have to see pics/ videos of wounds to believe her. Prison mate Luke was right. She does suicide bait whenever she's in trouble.

Same anon, you're not alone in feeling this way. This bitch is a compulsive liar and her self-victimization is old, it's not "getting old", it's just old and tiresome. And you know what? Fuck her mental health. In this day and age of people being on the internet/social media, who doesn't have mental health problems? Peaches is not special and the fact that she yammers on and on about "muh mental health" is her own fucking problem now. No one is stopping her from getting help if she genuinely needs it but with how much she lies and dramatizes herself, it's to a point where she shouldn't be surprised if people don't want to hear it anymore.

I'm really hoping that when she comes back, people give her the Creepshow Art treatment when she tried to come back last year.

No. 1980028

>>1980022
Peaches has two days left to recover her YouTube Channel. I don’t think there’s anyway you could craft a good enough video to get people back on her good graces since multiple people have already disavowed her. And her stupid kofi has already given away her new “name” so it would be easy to find her rebrand

No. 1980046

>>1979922
I can’t believe that for a period of time up until now there were so many people who just blindly defended peaches on everything, including Lio. Lio and any other youtuber who tried painting her as some kind of innocent angel who could do no wrong only to be thrown under the bus are getting what they deserve. To be honest, I actually don’t doubt Lio abuses women but this adult woman claims she’s a victim to everyone ever while in every situation she’s in she’s been an awful person, bullied some random retarded woman for four hours straight, and now that she’s been called out she tried pulling an Ellen Page by trooning out to take the focus away from the drama and is even changing her social media names. Hoping that Peaches tries coming back with her new gay tranny furry persona only for no one to care.
>>1977587
I know what video you’re talking about since I was subscribed to him as well, but I very explicitly remember that he just called himself a he/they. I have no caps either which sucks but I’m confident he’s just another moid tranny.

No. 1980050

>>1980046
Anon I’m pretty sure harleytbs is a ftm. He’s like 5’4 and that voice usually occurs when a woman isn’t committed to taking their testosterone and obsessed with the fem boy image kek

No. 1980134

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So apparently this is LioConvoy according to gilded poo. There were even videos posted with a guy that matches this picture on lio conoys early YouTube videos. The photo also matches Lios profile pic on Twitter. Is this what we’re supposed to be scared of ? He looks greasy

No. 1980135

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Sorry for double posting but this is his profile pic and the outfit resemblance is an absolute match

No. 1980142

>>1980134
This is why Lio runs from interviews or calls with people who aren't children or mentally disabled. Look at him
This guy was def bullied viciously throughout his life and now he has to punch down.

No. 1980144

>>1980134
If this actually is a photo of him, I don’t think anyone’s surprised. This is how I imagined him in my head except he had a greasy neckbeard. Hilarious to think that this is the man who likes to act all tough in his circlejerk fake predator hunting discord calls.

No. 1980146

>>180134
This must be an older picture tbh. Lio now seems like a morbidly obese fellow by looking at his hands.
>>1980144
He looks like he's about to say "M'Lady" unironically.

No. 1980156

>>1980146
Yeah this photo is over a decade old. Judging by his fat sausage fingers and his struggle passing a basic fitness test, he’s definitely fatter now

No. 1980174

>>1980028
I don't know what I want to happen more, her to let it go and give up her biggest cashflow- or for her to comeback and prove to everyone that she's a massive hypocrite.

Either way we can expect a rebrand and return in one way or another, whether that comes in the form of changing her existing channel or making a new one entirely. She's too addicted to sitting on her ass and making money doing nothing that it's inevitable she tries to cling on to whatever relevance she'll have left.

No. 1980184

>>1980134
haha lmfao he looks like the nerdy kids they shove into lockers in 80s teen movies

No. 1980203

>>1980134
>"While you were arguing on DeviantArt, I was studying the blade…..!"
Wouldn't he have been in his 20s? Jesus Christ man.

No. 1980356

Apologies if this is too much of a personal cow and since isn’t exactly the kind of art commentator talked about around here I’ll save this but honestly The Crow Formerly Known As Piper Sweeney is so similar to Peaches, recently there was a situation Crow and Brad Taste in Music had where Crow pulled the exact same “I’m gonna kill myself” and over sharing cards Peaches has in vidrel (28:41). I apologize if this is too OT for the thread but given Illuminaughtii was talked about last thread I figured I may as well throw another “ACC person not necessarily related to Peaches” cow in

No. 1980362

>>>/snow/1979922
Honestly we all know she's turning into a fake-boy cuz her victim complex. Like get a job Peaches, everyone now knows you're a spiteful bitch, or just take yourself out at this point. And others are still willing to run defense for her is laughable. Just let her die in a ditch, she digged this hole herself. I'll be expecting "My story -I was emotional manipulated/abused by hopelesspeaches/Eren" video. Only reason the ACC becomes a shit show is cuz these dumbass keep letting their friends(obviously just look at FCC leaks) get away with it. Plus the ACC members always have depraved fetishes. I mean I remember Ponder's deviantart gallery doing a weight gain fetish commission years ago. Very weird how ACC keep following moralfag degenerate's words.

No. 1980369

>>1980362
We take light in her scuicide baiting because we know she doesn't want to, not that we want her to. We just want her to fuck off. But we know Peaches wants to live forever. She just doesn't want to work. We also know she would cry for days about a paper cut. Her claiming she self harms is also laughable

No. 1980382

>>>/snow/1980369
Alright fair. I still think she needs to stay off the Internet at least.

No. 1980399

>>1980369
Right. If it was any other person who has not had a habit of bringing up suicide baiting, I'm sure most of us would take it more seriously but Peaches has worn out the sympathy card with that threat since she's said this multiple times at this time. When it comes to her, you simply have to say "bet" and stick to the issues.

No. 1980547

>>1979446
love that she admits that Lio was a lying sack of shit but just goes "ohh it was because of Peaches uwu" basically giving this abusive moron an out. Not that Peaches doesn't suck but it's extremely slimy.(sage your shit)

No. 1980558

>>1980356
I liked her melanie martinez video. I am not going to sit and watch 6 hours of an ugly scrote named brad, did he actually debunk her video or just glossed over it?

No. 1980647

>>1980558
He did actually respond to points but a lot of the stream was just dismissing every point TCFKAPS was trying to make. Admittedly Brad’s a bit of a cow himself (Kiwifarms has info on him) and his jokes about the Timothy situation are really tasteless but he’s not Art Commentary so I won’t harp on it. I do think, unlike Peaches, Crow is actually suicidal since Crow has mentioned it in videos when it’s not just drama and has had actual therapists agree that they have illnesses but bringing up personal shit and mentioning this situation made you attempt in detail when you could’ve just said “It made me go through Mental Hell” or something is odd to say the least. I was a fan of the crow once but this along with shit like defending Johnny Depp and hiding the criticisms really ended any enjoyment the videos had. Regardless of your thoughts on the Mel/Tim situation Crow and Brad were two grown adults bickering like children, Brad made a final stream and Crow said any video Brad makes after their own they’d just report and Crow’s been MIA on all socials since December so admittedly this is dried milk. Only other milky stuff is Crow ignored some allegations Brad made of Crow moving in with 15 year old and treating that kid like shit and Crow’s planning another Creepshow Art video more about the two’s history. Probably will post that here when it’s done since the Creepshow thread’s been dry since her channel was terminated

No. 1980674

What the actual fuck is wrong with these people? Fucking terminally online nerds who fuck up their own lives of their own accord. To give short context, this dude tried to livestream killing himself with a pill overdose and before that, took all his savings and donated all of it and when the overdose suicide attempt failed, he's now in a fucked living situation. I just have no words to grasp such over dramatic online bullshit.

No. 1980708

>>1980674
Didn’t Lio make a video on this CallMeNil person and they apparently hung around the lolicon degenerate/JAR fangirl/SCC cow CarmenRider during the hilarious beef Carmen and SeptyPaws had. Side note, while I was looking to get this video I noticed Lio’s channel didn’t show up when I searched Lio Convoy there were unrelated videos with nothing to do with him popping up and even in channels he’s pretty buried, is it possible that Lio’s been shadow banned? He’s bleeding subs as well and is at 19.1K so it’s possible for sure

No. 1980731

So is Peaches out of her account now or is it possible she just has it hidden?

No. 1980735

>>1977641
>>1980731
She recently deleted her livestream so I don’t think she’s coming back to her “peachesl” persona. I can’t find the evidence, but I do remember right after the Creepshow art situation, peaches admitted to having another account she uses to browse Twitter and YouTube so she didn’t have to use her official account to comment and interact with people kek. The question is just how many sock puppet accounts

No. 1980953

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More dirt on one of the former Senate mods BluDavu who was in the Rosa call.

No. 1981049

>>1980953
Holy shit if this is true, it just makes everything even more infuriating. Whats the source of this comment?

No. 1981050

>>1980953
Can someone direct me to where the Rosa call thing is in the threads? I’m not trying to be spoon fed but I swear I’ve combed through all these threads and cannot find what that incident is.

No. 1981109

>>1981050
Sage for no new milk but here you are. Beware, it's a 4 hour endurance test. You can find more of a condensed version in Omnia's video.

No. 1981139


No. 1981344

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I was reading some of the old threads and I remembered this >>1103234 (attached the pic if you don’t wanna go all the way back) and now I’m wondering, did Peaches ever go after D’Angelo Wallace for this comment? The most I remember was Peaches mentioning how disappointing it was that such a big creator would leave a comment like this in the second response video, though honestly he’s pretty nice in it all things considered. Really makes you think about how Peaches only really punched down at people who already were having drama or that there was dirt on (like Spoctor, Camila or Omnia and Kai) I wonder if Dangelo has any opinions on this considering he followed the ACC a while back, if we got a video from him that would be it for Peaches, Lio, and the remains of Senate but sadly he did anything on Shannon and that situation was far bigger and from someone he personally knew so maybe not but could imagine how satisfying it would be to see a larger creator taking down these dumbases

No. 1981348

>>1980953
Sorry for the double post but wasn’t Ghost Exe / Holy Majesty accused by JAR and Definitely Bored Oranges of being some kind of lolicon/shotacon/cub porn enjoyer? It’s this video at like 5:28 apparently it was cuz Ghost had a situation with this person>>1980674. JAR seems to have some kind of beef with this Ghost guy and it’s really strange how Oranges and JAR just casually accuse him like this, maybe it’s cuz of the racism allegations JAR’s been dealing with for a few years?

No. 1981360

>>1981344

oh that comment.
iirc peaches and scrittus replied to him (I forgot what they said, though scrittus' was definitely along the lines of defending her) but they got massively ratioed by the other replies. Also that comment of his was on peaches' first response video, the one that didnt perform well.
Later on Mangakamen mentioned that comment on his video going over the acc drama (yknow back before he transitioned to just going nerd reviews) and I remember noticing how salty he was over that one comment kek. That was probably back when he and peaches were still close. Idk if there still friends but he was the one who talked peaches out of committing suicide during her drama (the event prison mate luke references as her "suicide baiting")

No. 1981369

>>1981360
You mentioning MangaKamen really made me realize how all of Peaches’ defenders just fucked off and left Peaches to the mob now. I don’t think Kamen’s said anything, JAR had those tweets and that’s it, Lio tried to do that hit piece on Crystal but it backfired and now they turned on each other, Peaches really has no one left other than Lumitro and Cosmic it seems.
>>1980134
Lio showed a bit of his face in a video before, it matches up decently well from what I remember, can’t find the clip for the life of me sadly
>>1979922
I doubt Peaches has an actual job starting soon, even if all the Hopeless Peaches socials are gone there are still videos that will probably pop up in background checks and Peaches’ has made their legal name public, I find it funny that Peaches used RebelRaccoon as that name cuz you look that user up and a bunch of unrelated accs pop up, seems choosing a generic name was intentional. Keep an eye out for a green raccoon going around Twitter being followed by Peaches’ old friends

No. 1981379

>>1981369
I remember MangaKamen. Peaches had a HUGE crush on him and had the idea of having "Matching" sonas by adding the Peach in her hair like Kamen had the skull in his.
He also "validated" her scuicide attempt. And by validate just enabled her. She just called him wailing that she wanted to die when he confronted her about her previous drama. There was no proof that Peaches swallowed any pills or went to the ER. And we know better than trusting her word.

No. 1981427

>>1981348
I remember a little bit about this drama but it's also quite hazy and since GhostEXE/Holy Majesty deleted/privated his response video to JAR plus his own video addressing the accusations, it's hard to trace but from what I remember, Ghosty did admit that when he was younger, he did draw shota/cub, not like full-on porn but softcore suggestive (he didn't show examples of it) but when he realized how problematic it was, he deleted it all and moved away from it. I think he also mentioned that he was groomed by an older guy he had feelings for as late a teenager which clouded his judgment which is what initially made him think there was nothing wrong with cub art.

That's really all I remember from the gist of it. If Holy Majesty is being active on his YouTube again then maybe he will re-upload it.

No. 1981428

>>1981369
>MangaKamen
To be fair, MangaKamen has seemingly been staying out of drama in recent times. I heard that he has a KiwiFarms account though so maybe he is still active on there? Either way, I haven't seen him commenting on Lio Convoy or Hopeless Peaches so I think he's just avoiding it. Honestly even though he was the one who talked her out of committing suicide, I feel like it's more perplexing that JAR has been silent with her because he was one of her biggest asslickers for awhile.

No. 1981431

>>1981379
She had a crush on Kamen? Huh lol. Well she seems to have a thing for men in relationships doesn't she? I mean I'm pretty sure MangaKamen is in a relationship no? I also agree that her cries of committing suicide, I have suspicion that she wasn't actually doing anything neither. There's a difference between saying you're suicidal and actually doing the steps while in your breakdown and since all of this is online, it's hard to say what's really happening or not.

No. 1981439

>>1981427
Same here anon, I followed the situation when it was happening but now that the videos are gone I can barely remember it. I think it was mentioned in the Art CC thread that came after Tobi’s briefly since Spoctor covered that Akumu got onto Kai for being friends with Majesty and supposedly condoning Majesty’s cub art, wonder what Majesty’s thoughts on Kai are now, only other thing I know is Majesty in the Ghost.ExE days was accused by an SCC members of being a pedophile, the vid’s gone now but it was by Dan Stein if I’m remembering right.

Speaking of SCC people Only Jesp / FISHLIZARD.ZIP / YoPalGal made a video on the FCK leaks, it’s nothing new though, just goes over the screenshots and summarizes the victim testimonies so far and shows other screenshots like stuff with racism. The part the farmers may find interesting is that it showed Peaches (Abandoned Account) directly being tagged by ToastyVanilla / Ruby while they were sending porn to kids, so Peaches can’t pull the “I didn’t see it” card. Only other thing of note is that the video is apparently age restricted which is dumb because how are minors in potential danger gonna see this? I swear these people commentate first and think of a reason for their videos to exist second, especially bad since apparently Toasty is trying to come back

No. 1981516

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Thumin is making a video on the FCK server but I just feel like it’s hopeless guys. All these degenerates aren really gonna get away with all this by either deactivating and fucking off the internet forever or pulling a suicide bait to make the audience feel bad. Especially shitheads like toasty vanilla, who thinks it’s something to laugh over and reminisce about. Like what’s the link between shitty artists and degeneracy?

No. 1981525

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JFC apparently Toasty flirted with this fucking 12-13 year old, this is the person Tobi, Peaches, Nezzie, and co. were all completely fine with hanging around with, the one that Peaches dated and drew loli/shota-ified versions of their characters together and conveniently Peaches left out all the gross shit Toasty did in that “Tweet of my exes” thing despite being fully aware
>>1981516
Honestly we already know Peaches is gonna come back and Toasty tried to, Nezzie has the Scc Still supporting her cuz “I'm gonna kill myself so there’s one less bad person” and Miss Zi Zi still has her following unaffected and is followed by large creators like Emily Artful and Blaire White so the news clearly hasn’t spread far enough. Even if Thumin flames ZiZi it’ll probably just send her into privating her acc until shit calms down

No. 1981539

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lol. Lmao even. I’m so glad this smug bastard is getting some type of karma for being a peaches bootlicker

No. 1981550

>>1981439
AYRT and I saw that GhostExe actually did a livestream on the Rosa call and in it he mentioned that his viewers should watch Xzae's video on her so I think he has no negative feelings about him if he's willing to direct his viewers to his channel.

>nly other thing I know is Majesty in the Ghost.ExE days was accused by an SCC members of being a pedophile, the vid’s gone now but it was by Dan Stein if I’m remembering right.

I remember the Dan Stein thing and I remember Ghosty/Holy did do a response video on him. I'm pretty sure he did address it and apologized but Dan was making up other things about him and he shut that down. Again it's so hard to remember specifics since everything is gone and that one YouTube channel
"Nice Stories: Not the real Stories" didn't seem to have any re-uploads of the drama neither.

Also my suspicion on Holy/Ghosty coming back is incorrect, he addressed in the stream that he had no plans on coming back to the ACC and moved on with his IRL getting married and just having a life outside the internet.

No. 1981634

Part 2 of Omnia’s video is premiering now

No. 1981636

Has the little troll resurfaced yet? Wonder if any of her bootlickers are following any newly made accounts.

No. 1981667

>>1981634
Honestly anon, is it worth a watch? Does she provide any new information that is not known?

No. 1981673

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>>1981667
Not the anon you replied to but I think it’s an okay watch. It’s not necessary but it does break down each instance of lio and peaches being hypocritical & disgusting. As for upcoming vids, there’s one being made by Chuuli specifically covering Hiten kek. The Feghost drama pissed her off so bad that I can’t blame here
Also this little gem that a twit user dropped made me chuckle so I’m sharing it here:

No. 1981674

>>1981673
AYRT and thanks for the heads up, I may give it a watch sometime later. picrel is spot on, it's pretty much guaranteed kek

No. 1981825

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>>1981673
Yeah I looked for what Chuuli / Vabzuycin / Dulu / PoppyyDu had to say on all of this and fucking wow whatever they have on Hiten and these other SCC people is probably pretty big, apparently she’s also still malding over something Chuuli did as a kid when she’s in her mid 20s lmao. Honestly I gotta give Chuuli credit, no matter all the dumbasses from the ACC/SCC that have come for them they’ve done nothing more than mind their business or give it a passing address and usually they come out on top, probably because they focused on their real life instead of screeching and making 20 videos whenever someone mentioned their name, I’d love to see Hiten try to ignore this one like she did with the Senate shit lol

No. 1981976

>>1981634
I could only watch an hour of this before tapping out. I understand that everyone except Ponder were awful to Rosa in the call but Omnia's commentary is just obnoxious. I just feel like she's being so unnecessarily overly dramatic and I don't know if it's me being insensitive or she really is just being a drama queen blowing things out of proportion. It wasn't like Rosa gave out all her personal information to these fucks (that I know of)and Rosa really could've left at any time but her mental disability was interfering but not enough to where she foolishly got her mother involved or gave out her address or phone number. and I'm sorry but if people truly get traumatized over hearing someone get called fat or retarded, that's just really sad.

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>>1981825 I can't stand Chuuli but they didn't deserve being a minor in the inner circles of this community. No kid deserves to be exposed to these freaks.

No. 1982004

>>1981976
calling a victim of CSA slut is fucking vile

No. 1982008

>>1981976
This is a shit take anon. Maybe you didn’t watch the videos that leigha something made but she thouroughly explains that the senate will mass harass you through dms and threaten to contact your family until you get into a call. As soon as you finally “agree” the sentate pings everybody to join in, that’s why there always like 60–100 people in call.

> but if people truly get traumatized over hearing someone get called fat or retarded, that's just really sad.


I don’t think you understand how bullying works but I genuinely want to know how you’d fare in a mass group call being called a slut while trying not to cry. Rosa was genuinely in distress and they still wouldn’t leave her alone. ( also sorry nonnas if I was Reddit spacing)

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>>1981980
And now Hiten is pulling a classic ACC move. Being held accountable for your past actions that contridict what you've said before? Just threaten to an-hero! Isn't she like the 3rd or 4th person that's done this? How anyone is fooled by this at this point is asinine.

No. 1982058

>>1982019
fucking coward

No. 1982141

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>>1982019
Well glad to see the remainders of the ACC keeping Peaches’ spirit alive lmao. While we’re talking about Hiten being a dumbass I found a thread on Twitter that was made where Hiten got pissy at some kid named GoatCatto for bringing up a situation with Spoctor. Hiten immediately tries to pressure them into Senate like what happened here >>>/snow/1781350 and they don’t join the server cuz of seeing disclaimers about being bullied and all the Senate shit. Lio apparently then tweeted about this shortly after this kid turned 18, so yeah just another autistic child Senate tried intimidating. There’s more screenshots but I couldn’t fit them all sadly, it’s all in the thread

No. 1982142

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Same anon because I’m a dumbass and forgot to link the thread, really though it’s telling Lio and Senate are so willing to attack random kids/barely adults. If a young person mishandles accusations like these intimidation is the dumbest fucking thing you can do and they took the Spoctor call shortly after this which even Spoctor’s “victim” said they sidnt want public according to his community posts, these people have such contradictory morals I swear to fucking god
https://x.com/CattoGoat/status/1769871757580583228

No. 1982152

>>1982008
Art. Well I mean, I wouldn't ha e gotten in the call on the first. For context, I'm a tad older than most in the community (I'm in my 30s) and I have autism as well. Clearly Rosa is a lot more impaired but I would like to believe if I was in a similar position, I wouldn't go in. But I am a bit in a haze because though I'm a few years older than Rosa, I still remember learning from my parents not to put all my stuff out there on the internet and this was during the MySpace/ DeviantArt days. I didn't know that these people would harass by massive spamming dms though so that makes me understand why Rosa felt the way she did and got her to do the call out if desperation.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for Rosa that she genuinely felt in distress because of her disability that enhanced the discomfort she felt. My commentsry wasn't on how Rosa was acting, I was referring to Omnia who I'm sorry but her commentary was annoying to me.

And I was called retard quite a bit when I was in high school but it was back in the day when everyone said it and it was a part of slang so maybe I'm just desensitized to the word.

No. 1982165

>>1982019

Fucking KEK. no wonder she and Nezzie are friends. Wouldnt even surprise me if they were also friends with peaches too (probably not nezzie though since I remember them having a petty Twitter spat about anime a while back)

No. 1982191

>>1982165
Okay but in retrospect does anyone feel like we should’ve seen this coming from the tobi majestic drama ? In all honesty the people who sided with Shannon turned out to be either extremely awful ( Shannon and Kai being stalkers and domestic abusers ) or just insufferable shady people( Omnia and Prison mate Luke) . BUT, I think it’s kind of funny how everyone who sided with Tobi turned out to be a degenerate porn addict that can’t be trusted around minors ( peaches, zizi, madlibbs, toasty, Doodletones, Nezzie and fuschiabutters) . Laugh and point folks

No. 1982234

>>1982191
Birds of a feather flock together
I haven't genuinely enjoyed ACC content for years now. Because the ACC is just drama tubers and degenerates. Like watching a train wreck or a house burning down. You just stare in awe.

No. 1982236

>>1982234
Honestly who did you enjoy watching before all this drama? There are still some art commentators who actually commentate on topics relating to art like Duchess Celestia and Fionapollo . There's also BreDrawz but I'm not really into her stuff purely because of age difference as I'm in my 30s and she's like 18-19 and a lot of the topics she talks about are things I already know about but she could be good for people around her age range.

Personally I did watch DeviantART rant videos for background noise back in the day but I never took it seriously and it helped that the "draama" was never anything super serious and was usually fangirls fighting over shipping and crap like that kek.

No. 1982237

>>1982236
Well I notice not many do this anymore, or well. But people who did speed draws/tutorials. Lavander town and Neytirix are people I use for background noise now. But they don't really cocunt as ACC. more like if any of these people were talented, they could be more like them

No. 1982243

>>1982237
>But they don't really cocunt as ACC. more like if any of these people were talented, they could be more like them
The shade kek But you're not wrong though to be honest. Like what was discussed above, Ponder Sprocket was the only one who had technical skill even if her western influenced style wasn't for everyone. And dare I say if Peaches didn't turn out to be a deplorable bitch and continued refining her art skills, she could've improved a lot as well.

I used to watch LavenderTowne back in the day as well, I know that people here tend to either like or despise her but imo, she was okay.

No. 1982245

>>1982243
If this was a few years back then I would’ve agreed on Peaches, but I feel like her art has gotten stagnant. In fact I think she ceased growth in every aspect of her life ( if you don’t count her weight )
.>>1982236
I was enjoying D’angelo Wallace tbh. I know he’s not in the ACC anymore but I really liked his videos because they’re either really well made or good enough for background noise

No. 1982248

>>1982019
God forbid anyone holds you accountable, right? My God these maladjusted weirdos need to get a grip. You're not going to die because you were shitty on the internet.

I feel like if even ONE person stood up and said "Yeah I liked bullying people." They would get off the easiest out of all of these degenerates. At least we would know they weren't lying lol.

No. 1982254

>>1982248
These people cannot take one little bit of their own medicine it's actually pathetic. Congratulations, this is what you've been subjecting other people to for years, the only difference is that you actually deserve it lol.

No. 1982482

Recently watched this video, aside from the hilarious everything about this, at the beginning it’s shown that Lio may be botting subscribers I’m not entirely sure of how sub bots work but if there is an anon who is more knowledgeable feel free to chime in but full honestly I don’t at all doubt that Lio would sub bot for damage control or to make the sub loss not look as bad, any other anons feel the same?

No. 1982711

>>1975934

We are just a day over 3 weeks since she deleted all of her socials. Safe to say, she won't be coming back to the hopeless peaches brand. I'm guessing like everyone else, that she's just going to come back going by He/him and calling herself Eren. Everyone start placing your bets on when she'll be back. My guess is sometime around Thanksgiving or Christmas.

>>1982482
I wouldn't doubt it if Lio does bot his subs, but he has made several videos that have gone semi. Viral like his Coyote lovely video.

No. 1982777

>>1982711
>Safe to say, she won't be coming back to the hopeless peaches brand. […] she's just going to come back going by He/him and calling herself Eren.
I guarantee you her new talksprites are already in the works as we speak. And $5 says the bow gets repurposed as some kind of uglyass neckerchief.

No. 1982968

>>1982777
I know people are just tired of Peaches's shit. However I saw a couple of her male fans admit they dipped once they realized what she actually looked like. A lot of people made videos of her calling Rosa a fat ugly whore while showing Peaches's irl picture next to her sexy blonde sona.
A lot of her down bad fans only defended her because they thought she was some cutesy 16-18 year old "baddie". kek

Good luck to Peaches trying to rebrand

No. 1983002

>>1982968
My tinfoil is her real face getting leaked contributed to her gender rebrand kek. Let’s be fucking for real she wasn’t struggling with gender identity or whatever bullshit she’ll claim when she “transitions”. Peaches is upset that people know her irl face and body doesn’t match the sexy cute uwu persona she had on for years.

No. 1983008

>>1982968
I think what contributed to people thinking she was this cute uwu blond girl like her avatar is her voice because she doesn't have a stereotypical "fat girl" voice. When I first came across Peaches years ago, I assumed she looked some young blonde girl who was either skinny or average built (not fat or skinny, just in the middle) wearing overalls and a t-shirt underneath it kek I don't know why but that's what I pictured in my head until I saw those IRL photos and I had to do a double take, not what I had in my head at all but then it sense why she was such a bitch commenting on people's weight when she's just as big.

>>1983002
Agreed, she's just butthurt that her fans who were licking her ass saw what she truly looks like and a lot of the moids were turned off (except Lio but he's nothing to write home about in the looks department) and they were not hypnotized by the image they thought of her in their heads anymore. I think this is especially why JAR backed off from her and stopped giving her the "muh queen" treatment kek.

And since she values being treated a certain way, a way that she can't come back from since not only is she unattractive on the outside but also on the inside and so she's going to try larping as a fat unattractive man thinking that people will accept her more as opposed to a fat unattractive woman but she's in for a rude awakening when she comes back.

No. 1983010

>>1983008
I think she assumes people will baby her for being trans. But people give less shits about a mans feelings that a girls. I still can't believe she's still e begging and trying to take commissions. I hope she losses her home, serves her right for everything she did to everyone in her life.

On a last note, she's so fucking stupid. She got her house by squatters rights from her ex bf. She was paying her bills because of Lio. Who's going to pay her bills now? Dumb bitch.

No. 1983104

>>1983010
Right and not many people are gonna roll over for a fat trans-identified woman the way that we typically see normies do for TIMs, she's out of her league and it's gonna be funny to see her flop. As for her home situation, yeah I was wondering how she's gonna stay afloat now that her sugar daddy is cut off. My guess is that if she loses her home, she'll try to go back to her parents and then e-beg some more telling people that she's in a desperate situation because her parents "transphobic" or some shit kek.

No. 1983622

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Well looks like Doodle has joined the fuck Peaches crow to continue white knighting Lio, from the sounds of it Doodle will also be in Lio’s video responding. I swear I can’t find the screenshot (I think it was on Akumu’s Twitter but I cant find it so maybe one of you might wanna check) but Doodle’s nickname in the Senate is now “Lio’s best friend and the Queen of The Senate” or something, lots of people tinfoil that maybe Doodle will be the next one Lio gets into some kind of obvious relationship with and I could see it with how much Doodle is white knighting for Lio

No. 1983647

>>1983622
I don't even think it's tinfoil at this point to say that Doodle has probably been "adopted" by Lio. He stepped up to the plate to be the new kid when Peaches left kek.

No. 1983651

>>1983622
Ew. Does that mean Doodletones is gonna pump out an 8+ hour video of him talking with that stupid voice filter. That bottom feeder definitely latched onto Lio the minute peaches dipped and is now the newest “daughter”

No. 1983653

Akumu’s made a long video on Lio. Goes over a lot of stuff like proving Lio had the FCK logs, and shows Lio had complete knowledge of Nezzie and ZiZi’s shit and did nothing even continuing to associate with Nezzie and Peaches joking about Toasty’s creepy shit

No. 1983654

>>1983651
Sorry for double post as I didn’t see this before posting the Akumu video but it wouldn’t shock me. From what it seems Lio’s helping Doodle cover up shady shit in the SCC. I get being questionable of Gilded Poo but according to Leigha the accusations seem to be BS and I trust her judgement more than the average ACC member. It’s strange how Lio and Doodle can get onto people like FuchsiaButters for sexual jokes around minors but when it’s their friends they don’t say a thing, this the person who was in call with Lio going over the FCK leaks by the way and is likely still in Senate, how many Senate creeps are we on by now?

No. 1983670

>>1983654

honestly too damn many at this point.

I'm surprised more and more people outside of the ACC/SCC are talking about it. Leigha, Beckett of Crabs (Cope and Seethe Podcast), Mv Kvlt, and some others I'm forgetting about atm.

No. 1983690

>>1983654
>>1983670

Speaking of beckett/cope and seethe podcast and gilded poo, they pointed out how peaches releasing those voice recordings somehow ended up making her look worse than lio. Kai too at some extent in his latest stream but beckett and gilded touched on it more.
Peaches talks about "age regressing" as a trauma response but people have pointed out on those clips that she seems to do it selectively, and in certain instances like when she gets sassy and talks down on lio on that one specific clip near beckett played near the end of his stream, its completely nonexistent and makes her just as abusive and manipulative as lio with her constantly twisting his words and changing the narrative. Honestly those two deserve each other KEK

Idk if it was the same comments section of the stream but a user pointed out peaches releasing those clips to "prove" lio was abusive is the same as when creepshow tried to show how Emily was a stalker, in the end they just ended up making peaches/creepshow look worse lmfao

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>>1983651
>8+ hour video of him talking with that stupid voice filter.
That is going to be soooo unpleasant to hear anon kek. I wonder how Lio's wife is gonna feel about this since Doodle seems desperate to be his little slam piece.

No. 1983805

>>1983670
It is pretty interesting how this drama seeped outside of ACC though I wonder how long it's gonna last? It feels like things are simmering down a bit which I'm sure is what Peaches is hoping for before she makes her return. I wonder if she's waiting for Lio to make a video first before that though.

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>>1983805
I’d like to believe that but I doubt it, Nicholas DeOrio made a comment on the situation basically dismissing it and his tweet has over 500 likes albeit I’m not sure what his reputation there currently is or how many other creators liked this (side note I got this from Kai’s Twitter and I'm pretty sure we’re getting a video from Kai too and he’s going on about how he was always right). The mainstream moid dominated community will continue jerking each other over and measuring dicks instead of capitalizing on the cow material we got here

No. 1983836

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>>1983812
Not a fan of Omnia but I fucking hate Nicolas deoreo and his track record of dismissing sexual/ physical assault allegations and female victims. When EmilyArtful was talking about how she was sexually assaulted by Anthony, he called her a liar and had his followers harass her until SHE apologized to him. I don’t know how he wasn’t cancelled for that incident alone but fuck that guy specifically. He wants to be this edge lord on the internet as if he isn’t morbidly obese himself and blocking anyone that makes fun of his weight. Here’s this moid’s photo for reference

No. 1983862

>>1983836
It's always the fucking scrotes that look like they would still unironically shoved into a locker in present day that try to be the edgiest tards. All the commentary scrotes are ugly as sin. Nicholas, Turkey Tom, Leafy, AugieRFC, Tipster, etc.

No. 1983946

>>1983862
>all unattractive
So true kek.ike the only one who looks okayish is Edwin's Generation and that is being very generous since he's the only who isn't morbidly obese or has a whack haircut.

No. 1984019

>>1983862
Actually I think AugieRFC looks pretty okay. He’s not obese or ugly he just looks like a teenage boy

No. 1984134

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Lio finally said something and tried to come for OnlyJesp / Galbanum Blossoms accusing them of running an acc harassing Streamline Workshop because it had similar name as one of their accs? Nobody’s taking his attempts to respond seriously and he’s getting fucking dragged in the replies

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>>1984134
Apologies Nonas, I’m illiterate, what actually happened was Lio got pissy with Jesp/Galbanum for thinking that tweet was about them and is now trying to label Galbanum as a stalker, he seems to really like making this accusation to discredit pretty much everyone who speaks out against him (picrel from Akumu’s latest video)

No. 1984149

>>1984147
Literally doesn't prove shit in defense of Lio. Lio still willingly hung out with creeps, weirdos, pedos and dog fuckers.
Also Lio still saying nothing about Peaches. He really was down bad

No. 1984691

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Popped into to Leigha's stream yesterday for a brief moment and found out about this,
Doodletones spoke up about being in the
FruitCakeKlub finally but tries to excuse it with "I didn't know that there were minors" which is an obvious lie since Doodle has talked about the Madame drama so Doodle would've at least known Slimurs. Also Doodle
mentions having some kind of exclusive info about the stuff basically confirming Doodle and Lio are getting extra friendly. There actually is some interesting milk I've found on Doodle and the SCC recently if any other anons would like to hear about it, only other thing is I ended up seeing that apparently Doodle's been talked about here before >>>/snow/344048 the KiwiThread linked is pretty dead though and it's nothing really new

No. 1984694

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>>1984691
>>>/ot/344048 Wrong thread linked, apologies for double post nonas

No. 1985019

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>>1980735 Well looks like Peaches didn’t actually delete the livestream channel, if you doubted there was gonna be a comeback and rebrand a few months after this all dies down you can stop your doubts now >>1982711
>>1983836
If Peaches actually takes being trans seriously and it isn’t just a way for Peaches to get some distance from the past then this is definitely what the end result will be kek. At least if Peaches was skinnier there could be some attempts to look like a Twink/femboy the weight is what’s gonna really make any transition difficult

No. 1985054

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This isn’t milk but I’m adding this because it’s some good news in this terrible shitstorm. Good for mint heart

No. 1985092

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Does anyone else wish Kai would just stop trying to argue with the ACC every 5 minutes? It’s clear he lets his emotions take control during these encounters and if the way he’s gone into literal breakdowns listening to that Lio and Peaches is any indicator he’s just hurting himself by this point and screaming at a brick wall of a community

No. 1985119

>>1985092
This is why I roll my eyes when anyone in here glazes Kai. He's just as volitile and childish as he's always been. Sure his actual videos may have gotten marginally better, but his twitter and livestreams are just endless sperging.

No. 1985189

>>1985092
this tweet is from march 19th, maybe you’re the obsessed one? the context is that kai said people shouldn’t instantly believe peaches claims of abuse, which are sentiments in this exact thread. you are creating an issue out of nothing.

No. 1985193

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>>1985119
it surprises me that anyone is even making this an issue, everytime i read this thread you all agree with kai until he starts talking about his own experiences. now people are taking his month old tweets and arguing that he’s arguing with people every five minutes? crystal quote tweeted him. it’s a response. regardless of how you feel about him he’s not doing anything wrong or different than anyone else in the community.

No. 1985209

>>1985054
This is definitely a good start, hope it goes well for her. I just hope that she works on her sex ("gender") issues as well and eventually desists while not doing any harm to her health.

No. 1985287

>>1985092
Honestly I'm getting kinda tired of Akumu and Kumo gabbing on about the Lio Convoy thing with them making videos on Lio and the Senate post senate collapse is pointless because nothing has happened since Peaches attempted to throw Lio under the bus. Honestly it feels like Akumu is just butthurt that he was never invited to be a part of the main "cool kids" (kek I know) of the ACC back in the day.

I guess I'm just lost at what these guys hope to accomplish. What their end goal is because the truth is now out about the FCK & Senate and the only people defending it are those within those servers because of course they will since most are stupid kids who lack critical thinking and/or terminally online autists but so what? Is that really a big loss?

No. 1985302

>>1985287
akumu sucks but he was genuinely done dirty and turned into a pariah by a lot of these people. same with kumo. i’ve seen his TTR series and they are actually decently well made dives into some of the contradictions of these people’s statements. i do agree he’s doing it to no avail though.

No. 1985327

>>1985302
I mean I see both sides but Akumu and Kumo do themselves no favors because they both come off as unlikeable douchebags (moreso Akumu) and that was even back then. I'm pretty sure that Akumu is trying to be like Metokur and if that's the case then what does he expect? Again I'm just wondering what their end goal is here.

No. 1985349

>>1985327
Agree anon, Akumu was definitely fucked over and a lot of the people bitching at him ended up being extremely shitty themselves but I’m not gonna pretend Akumu’s whole “I was always right” condescending attitude doesn’t get annoying after a while. The only real milk was about CarmenRider (an SCC cow and JAR fangirl that fantasized about Akumu arrested and beat by the cops with Lovelina in a GC) and another video he made on ElliMoMelli (some wannabe Coomer porn artist that hang around with Doodletones) these people are definitely cows but really there’s no point in bringing them up other than more victim points when really he could just bring up Madlibbs, Fuchsia, Nezzie, ZiZi, and Doodle and that would’ve been enough. Like yeah he was screwed over by the ACC but after a while it just feels like he’s making these to jerk himself off

No. 1985350

>>1985287
Akumu and Kumo are cringe edgelords at worst, and good instruments at best. I don’t think he ever wanted to be part of the ACC because he’s not the sjw type but remember that he was around 16 when the ACC harassed him and I think ms zizi ( or fuschiabutters) was sexually harassing and being fucking weird to him. So I don’t blame akumu for going after the FCK crew or exposing Kai as loser back in 2021. Nobody was willing to do it even though people like Lio had full knowledge about the server.

No. 1985355

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Saw this in the comments of Akumu’s video but Peaches is back and going by Rebel Raccoon and pretending to be a different person. Peaches couldn’t even wait a few more months to stay gone kek
https://youtube.com/@RebelRaccon
>>1979922 It’s the same exact name as this and Peaches is also planning on coming back to videos, the fact that there’s a playlist about Lio proves to me that Peaches has made Lio their new victim card now that the Creepshow one is expired

No. 1985360

>>1985355
I really hate this man. I'd never wish any harm on him but god I wish he didn't have internet access.

No. 1985376

>>1985355
is that really her? it looks like the channel of a 12yo

No. 1985436

>>1985355
I'm going to be skeptical on this until we get concrete proof that this is really her. Because I can't imagine Peaches, being as fucking retarted as she is, using a new handle that was so blatantly close to her old one. I know people said that she would come back under "Eren" but if she did that, I dom't think it would be this soon off her controversy. People are still mad at her.

No. 1985480

>>1985436
There WAS a Ko-Fi advertised in the senate(?) while Peaches was away under ko-fi.com/rebelraccoon but that user no longer exists. But that link was distributed in the discord that Peaches was in, by a person who said that Peaches asked her to send the link. So I'm pretty sure that's Peaches.

No. 1985481

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>>1979922
samefag, but I'm referencing this post attached. That youtube channel is definitely Peaches.

No. 1985499

>>1985349
Right and I get that Akumu was in high school but my sympathy is not that great because back then he was still carrying himself as an douchebag know-it-all and from what I remember, did try to troll people to get their attention and then get upset when they blocked him. You wanna be a troll? Don't be surprised when people don't want to deal with you and block you.

I agree that the salivating over the thought of his getting beat down and arrested over being a troll is ridiculous, I won't disagree there.

No. 1985515

>>1985350
Again I just have to wonder though what is Akumu hoping to accomplish? Make them quit the internet? Doesn't seem likely to happen. Get an apology? Less likely to happen neither. The ACC is in a fucked state as most of the big players are hardly releasing as many videos as they used to. I get that Akumu might want closure but I hope he has other things going on in his life and not just wasting it away on this crap.

No. 1985585

I hope Peaches gets slammed for trying to get a new victim card. They literally only went trans to hide from deserved crit. I bet if anyone brings it up they'll claim transphobia because "I'm not Peaches! I'm Eren!"

No. 1985599

>>1985499
>>1985515
Yeah exactly and not to mention Akumu was always a troll but then randomly got serious about stuff like make up your mind, are you just trolling and trying to piss the CC off or are you making legit points because no one can tell the difference at this rate, it’s why no one took his allegations seriously back then because everyone thought he was just making shit up to get a rise out of the ACC and SCC. Also from what I know Akumu has a real life and has mentioned he works at an animal shelter or something so he’s smarter than most CC people for actually having a life outside of it. I don’t think Akumu thinks long term though, my guess is he thinks “let me just drop videos on whatever is coming out” to get some kind of win over other people no matter how small

Also while we’re talking about CarmenRider and SCC related topics anyone else find it weird CarmenRider is making all these videos on some teenager for defending a creep as if they weren’t likely being manipulated by them, additionally anyone else disturbed that the SCC is sending a minor to defend them from sexual harassment and groomer allegations?

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>>1985599
Kek at the obvious farmer being in the comments, anyways don’t know why we don’t laugh at CarmenRider more, they’ve been a cow for years at this point and even had beef with Kai, the Senate, Lio, and Peaches so I’m genuinely shocked there weren’t more posts about this one tbh.

No. 1985860

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Well looks like JAR is still trying to defend his shit coverage of the Tobi drama. I swear to god not even Tobi gives a shit anymore but JAR is still salty that the community woke up to him being a grifter for a while, at least he’s not gonna try to milk this for a video again. Side note but I really hope JAR is joking and Lio isn’t actually planning at least 3 videos on this shit because that’s gonna be such a wreck if this is true

No. 1985869

>>1985860
>Lio making 3 videos on this
WTF why? What could he possibly say that will absolve him from his creepy shit behavior? The most I can see him saying is confirming that behind the scenes Peaches was manipulative but that doesn't change how he himself is seen which is just a creepy egomaniac. I agree anon, hopefully it's just a rumor.

No. 1985922

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And would you look at that, just as lolcow notices the Rebel Raccoon channel and says it’s Peaches the name is changed, not to mention we know Peaches lurks here since lolcow was mentioned in the Veritas call and Lio/Peaches obvious typing style
>>1985480 some additional evidence this was Peaches is the Ko-Fi was supposed to be up until Peaches started a new job in May but was suspiciously deleted before that and shortly after this channel starts popping up commenting on a video about the new ACC drama really gets you thinking

No. 1985979

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>>1985922
This channel has been under the comments of Kai’s livestreams on the matter. It’s not Peaches.

No. 1985981

>>1985979
Does this really clear up the accusation that it is Peaches? Didn't we have an individual run around pretending to be her own hater for a bit? Started with a "C" if I recall correctly.

Peaches is likely doing the same thing. But, as always, you can't be sure it is him (no matter how obvious.) so don't harass the account or anything stupid as shit like that.

No. 1985992

>>1985981
What adds to the evidence that it is? If you check their channel they have an entire playlist of xzae and akumu videos, plus some nba 2k, gta, and dashie videos in another. this is schizo levels of tinfoil

No. 1986054

>>1985979
Honestly this screams “Peaches desperately trying to kiss up to direct attention away from this obviously being the same person”
>>1985992
Honestly that seems on brand for Peaches, we’ve accepted Peaches is discount Creepshow at this point and while this is tinfoil I find it suspicious that in the playlist about Lio and Peaches there’s no videos from Omnia or Kumo, two people who we know Peaches is still salty at thanks to that doc exposing Lio having snipes at them both. Regardless we’ll know the truth when this person makes their first video if it’s some shitty voice changer with a clear British accent underneath in the video it’s more than likely Peaches

No. 1986073

>>1986054
Okay this helps with the tinfoil because it does seem on brand for peaches to hide behind a sock puppet account and pretend to be their own hater. It is funny that as soon as we brought attention to their account here, the profile pic and name suddenly changed. While I’m not entirely convinced it’s peaches, there’s a good chance

No. 1986099

>>1986054
peaches was equally salty at both kai and akumu. they’re likely not under omnia’s videos because they’re a fan of kai. i doubt peaches is watching dashie or playing nba 2k in her free time. you sound starved for milk. it’s more than likely just some kid who saw the drama and interacted. unless you think everyone is scrolling through lolcow or have been refreshing that person’s page alongside the thread, this is nothing more than a coincidence. it doesn’t connect to peaches at all. you’re making a correlation based on circumstance.

No. 1986103

>>1986099
Not ayrt but nonna please calm down. there’s nothing wrong with harmless tinfoil kek.

No. 1986118

>>1986103
i am calm? im just saying the tinfoil isn’t based on anything of substance. why believe it, makes us look as dumb as peaches is

No. 1986130

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I checked on the Chuuli and Hiten situation and the entire SCC is now publicly pissing themselves and screeching at Chuuli doing the crime of being mean to poor baby Hiten. Some of them are even threatening suicide yet again now that they’ve been called out kek. Also apparently they got weird a while back and made comments about Weyrwhulf /Gal/Jesp/Rin’s genitals out of fucking nowhere. What is it with these people and suicide threats? Even when they are suicidal that means they’re genuinely unhinged enough to kill themselves for some win in internet drama also apparently KlownTeeth (previously IcyHazardX if you recognize the name) is getting involved too. Hiten’s apology meant 0 to both Feghost victims

No. 1986137

>>1986130
Hiten Has been private for over a week now ever since Chuuli called her out kek

No. 1986267

>>1986118
I truly hope that one day, the mods will expose which poster is Peaches, because I believe she's been here from the start. These kind of touchy responses that are so concerned with tinfoil being accurate make me suspicious. Not saying it's Peaches, but these exact types of posts keep showing up in the commentary thread and I have a feeling it's someone trying to sway people away from certain trains of thought. Why not let people tinfoil if you're so calm?

No. 1986268

>>1986267
LMFAO I was debating saying "one of us is peaches its just a matter of who" and post a spiderman pointing edit. I've felt that the whole thread. "This can't be Peaches here is an uber specific detail which only someone who has been stalking their comments sections would know"(sage your shit)

No. 1986341

>>1986267
>>1986268

or they’re just concerned with accuracy. if you’re so convinced the karmakri account is peaches then please continue to look foolish. your evidence for this claim is “they changed their name in response to the thread we have no idea they’re reading” when everything else points to it not being peaches. moid response to call someone touchy when they’re arguing against your tinfoil. i could just as easily say “you might be peaches by trying to make everyone else think it’s this random account.” it’s schizo levels of retardation

No. 1986347

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>>1986341
i decided to see if there are any other comments by this karmakri person and lo and behold they’ve also given their take on kai’s video on rosa rey ramsey. no one is being ‘touchy’, this account has been shitting on peaches since before this thread was even aware of its existence. being told you’re likely very wrong about who is running it is not anything to tell someone to ‘calm down’ over. i’m seeing more tard speculation than actual milk

No. 1986371

I hate retard slap fights here so much ): >>1986130
The Hiten/ SCC defenders are fucking pathetic because they want everyone to believe that chuuli is bullying the chronically online older woman that’s using her “uwu mental illness” as a shield. Hiten isn’t even taking a break from the internet because she’s still on twitch streaming like nothings going on and dodging questions about Lio and her involvement with the Senate.():)

No. 1986469

>>1986347
Meh that doesn’t really disprove it, I’m pretty sure another anon mentioned that Peaches has said there’s sockpuppets as far back as 2020. I’m not sure if I believe the channel is Peaches as much anymore though, I do stand by that we should wait for them to post their first video and see if it seems like Peaches.
>>1986371
The SCC is filled with dumbasses and to catalog all the milk and retardation that’s happened in it within even just the past 3 years would take forever Neorah or whatever was questionable but in the last thread she documented the Senate’s stupidity pretty well >>1921794 not to mention like half of the ex-Senate cultists mentioned in her walls of text were also conveniently associated with SCC. I have no idea how this many creeps can come out of a community and still be around and it can still be viewed as a safe place for kids to be in by so many people

No. 1986491

Didn't Shannon also shit on herself and defend people she hated to get people off her trail? I think this is why people are only tinfoiling that it's Peaches. Not that it is. We're just sus atm

No. 1986501

I don't even know why people are calling this tinfoil. We know for a fact that Peaches and Lio both lurk here. Lio, because last thread he got into a slapfight with a Kiwifarm scrote, and Peaches because she slipped up last thread and said "I". This isn't even tinfoil, we know they lurk here if you've been in here long enough kek.

No. 1986502

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>>1986501
I think what’s being referred to as tinfoil is that Karma person being Peaches, we all know Lio lurks Kiwifarms as OldManBoomer and goes into threads about himself to white knight so I doubt it would be different on other sites and I got picrel from one of CarmenRider’s old videos and it shows Lio possibly lurks 4Chan too. Also if you mean these slap fights they’re from the first thread, not the previous. >>1770343
>>1770379
These are definitely Lio, the typing style is the exact same and Peaches’ tweets are quoting Lio from years ago which was only mentioned here >>1770328
>>1770631
>>1770639 Can’t find where Peaches slipped up though so I’d like if you could send that

No. 1986552

Well Kumo posted a leak of an upcoming Doodle video on that Jibz person that Lio attacked and shamed for being a grooming victim that didn’t feed his trauma kink. TLDW version is “Lio is some poor baby who grew up not knowing how emotions and mental illness worked” despite him having 40 years to learn. If Lio really was changing he would remove himself from these situations until he could handle being in them yet all we’ve seen, even since March 2023, has just been Lio being an ass sucker for Peaches (until Peaches dropped his fat ass) and him posting calls screeching at everyone who dared disagree with him. Anyways yeah there’s been rumors Doodle getting super chummy with Lio and was his new internet daughter and this just confirms it

No. 1986575

>>1986552
Yuck is that Lio ? He definitely aged badly and here I thought the old photo of him was peak ugly kek.

No. 1986589

>>1986552
First off, holy fuck look at this ugly ass scrote. Secondly, I hate Lio, but I have to respect how he's just been able to come into the ACC and in the matter of about a year, have it burning with just his mere presence alone. He's dragged so many down, Peaches, Hiten, Nezzie, Etc. Doodle is just the next one on the chopping block. I can't wait to see him go up in flames too kek.

No. 1986638

>>1986589
>Doodles is next
Honestly I'm for this too. Let this dumbass be the next on the chopping block for this ridiculous man because if there's anyone who needs a harsh slap of reality, it's Doodles himself. And he can't say he didn't know any better because there's plenty of examples in his little server that showcase why it's a bad idea to get close to Lio.

No. 1986656

>>1986638
Honestly if Doodle fails to notice the pattern with Lio and dies on the hill that’s defending him that’s fine with me, it’s been a long time coming.
Speaking of Doodle can we talk about this video for a second? Apparently a few months back some of Doodle’s old friends were found to be hiding someone having contact with Vii Omega (a groomer) and for some fucking reason Lio goes in the call doing his anime larp “I’ll steal your essence” shit and it’s genuinely so creepy and uncomfortable. I’m convinced he’s getting off on some kind of sadistic pleasure during this because there’s no reason for this to be as long and drawn out as it is, half the call isn’t even them asking questions it’s just Lio screaming and threatening to call these people’s parents (they’re literally adults to so wtf are their parents going to do). Lio is always talking in creepy Daddy Dom speak to some extent but this is the worst it ever was to me, the only reason this didn’t get as much shit as the Rosa call is the people he did this to were also fucked up but all he does is feed his kink for degrading people in half of it and I barely learned anything watching this for the first time. Guess Lio got salty that someone criticized his new submissives, Doodle and Hiten kek

No. 1986668

>>1986656
Yeah I agree because one of the victims he was harassing was a lesbian at the time and he kept on going into graphic detail of how the dude was gonna sexually assault her it was icky the entire time. Lio has always been a fucking creep . He even admits it himself the he could never have biological children because he’d abuse them so why do people willingly become his “kids “ after he explicitly states that? Aside from the victims that were literally manipulated and coerced into living with him since they had no one else, what about the rest ?

No. 1986732

>>1986668
>He even admits it himself the he could never have biological children because he’d abuse them
I know this was ripped straight from the Peaches doc, but do we know this for sure? Where did he say this?(sage your shit)

No. 1986735

>>1986732
I don’t have any proof other than Peaches doc, sorry nonna. I’m just assuming that this is one of those cases where peaches sprinkles some truth to give herself more leverage over the person she tries to smear

No. 1986771

>>1986668
>one of the victims he was harassing was a lesbian at the time and he kept on going into graphic detail of how the dude was gonna sexually assault her
JFC when was this? I know Lio’s been accused of saying he’ll put his dick in someone’s mom’s mouth to shut them up by Fox Mafia when it was still around and was weird to Jibz but this is new (can’t get the screenshots cuz it’s long gone now). I’m somehow shocked and disgusted and yet not shocked at all

No. 1986783

>>1986552
You're telling me this grown man who bitched at others about being properly socialized "doesn't understand how mental illness works?" LMAOOO, this community never fails to choose the best hills to die on

No. 1987120

Akumu made a new video and there’s actually some milk in it this time. Doodle is definitely super buddy-buddy with Lio now and cataloged everything from the FCK for him even. Also Lio was found possibly liking degenerate furry/inflation/feral porn but I’m not sure if I’m entirely convinced the account was him, still interesting to bring up though. Akumu does bring up a good point that Lio’s a 40 year old man and doesn’t need other grown adults defending him and saying he was manipulated into all this, guess his internet tough guy persona has finally fallen apart.

No. 1987190

>>1987120
Lio is denying the accusation currently. A user in the comments section informed Akumu that FurAffinity had swapped to a tag system after the post was made, and an account was likely matched with the post automatically with the same name as the Twitter handle, Lio Convoy.

No. 1987354

I'm sorry if this is gonna be seen as a bad take but honestly what the fuck happened to common sense? I'm an oldfag and listening to what was going down in these servers, it makes me wonder why these people are so dumb. I know that they were teenagers but back when I was growing up and the hot social media was Myspace, DeviantART, and AIM, I remember my parents and my school warned us about what not to do when you go online. Do not hang around creeps, do not give out private information, and do not meet up with people you don't know (unless it was someone around your age and even then, be accompanied with a parent or guardian). I'm not saying that there weren't problems back in the 00s with teens who made dumb mistakes but it feels like it's a lot worse now than it was back then.

I was listening to a livestream talking about this drama and something he said was so true which was that there comes a point where even the teenager has to take accountability for making a terrible decision. When it came to the Discord, the moment they started feeling uncomfortable with the people there, they had the option to Leave the group and not come back yet they - chose - to stay in there. The whole "grooming" thing is becoming a bit of an overused excuse now because we're not talking about little elementary kids here but teenagers who should have at least some common sense, at least enough to know when something is wrong and that they shouldn't be engaging in it. Don't get me wrong, the adults creeping on minors are scum but some of the blame also falls on the teenager for making an irresponsible choice that they more than likely were warned about from family and/or their school guidelines for online safety.

And I know someone will say that they have a mental disability like autism but I have autism myself and even I knew not to get involved with creepy adults, especially creepy moids and to not give out my personal information. I know everyone is different but fuck man, there has to come a point where you ask yourself where has common sense gone?

No. 1987378

>>1987354
Oh yeah, that video has been posted here before >>1981439 I do think that the reason most teenagers don’t seem to have the sense to just leave is that there’s normally some kind of additional pressure. From what I know TeddyThatDraws (one of the people that Toasty was creepy to) tried to come out about it and got flamed from all corners of the ACC and accused of slandering Toasty, and this was before Senate so on top of that these teenagers now have a cult trying to find where they live to worry about. Also I don’t think teenagers are exactly as protected as they used to be, most of Gen Z was raised without proper advice on how to act online (Gen Alpha seems to be getting that as they’re the first generation online from Day 1) and sites like Discord have basically made talking to strangers normal. That and Toasty seems to have had a friendship with these teenagers prior, and no matter who you are, you’re gonna excuse weird shit happening to you from a friend more than some stranger who suddenly DMs you sexual shit

No. 1987388

>>1987378
Oops my bad kek. I should've scrolled up to see the og video post.
> From what I know TeddyThatDraws (one of the people that Toasty was creepy to) tried to come out about it and got flamed from all corners of the ACC and accused of slandering Toasty
And I get that but at that point I'm sorry but fuck them then, give them the proverbial finger and exit out of the server and don't come back. This is not real life, they owe no one an obligation to stay when they are uncomfortable and/or see people being creeps. This goes back to common sense but again, it's probably me being an oldfag but whenever I got pulled into drama that didn't concern me in fandom groups, I would essentially just "nope" and leave the group when I would see the bullshit. I didn't owe them an explanation and neither do the teens in these discord servers, they can leave at any time, there computer is not spellbound to redirect them back to the server if they try to leave it lol.

>and this was before Senate so on top of that these teenagers now have a cult trying to find where they live to worry about

Again, I understand the fear there but if these teens were being smart and responsible making sure to not give out their personal information to these people or listing that information in other online spaces, they have nothing to worry about, bet lol.

>Also I don’t think teenagers are exactly as protected as they used to be, most of Gen Z was raised without proper advice on how to act online (Gen Alpha seems to be getting that as they’re the first generation online from Day 1) and sites like Discord have basically mai de talking to strangers normal.

I was curious about this so I looked up to see what some younger people's experiences were like in school when it came to internet safety (I'm in my mid 30s for context) and from what I see, t seems gen z's experience is pretty mixed where I saw half saying they were taught internet safety in either (or all) of grade school ,middle school, and high school while the other half claimed they didn't learn anthing about internet safety in school nor from their parents so okay, that tracks.
Something that the zoomers mho got internet safety in school mentioned was that it didn't really cover Discordwhich makes sense I suppose since it's somewhat newer so hopefully schools will teach about that.

>hat and Toasty seems to have had a friendship with these teenagers prior, and no matter who you are, you’re gonna excuse weird shit happening to you from a friend more than some stranger who suddenly DMs you sexual shit

Well I mean personally, this is anecdotal but I remember being 16 and talking to a guy I met on DeviatnART where we later moved to MSN messengerafter awhile and he started asking me for pics of me in my underwear and thankfully I never gave him those things and after he tried asking for like the 3rd time, I blocked and washed my hands of him. You're right that I gave him a chance and it was because I somewhat knew him but I still followed my gut feeling on not doing something I knew I shouldn't do. But again, I acknowledge that that is me and not everyone is the same.

No. 1987695

Old milk but does anyone else remember Ponder going off at some kid for mishandling predator accusations with Major Cloog or whatever? Like I’m not defending this kid or whatever because I can barely tell anything about the drama since it seems to all be deleted but if they really did mess it up then why did Ponder think publicly flaming and subtweeting them like a Creepshow/Peaches style mean girl was the smart idea? People have said it before but Ponder has 0 idea how to act with kids around, no wonder she was/is in Senate

No. 1987727

>>1987695
Anyone who forces their young fans to call them Mommy, daddy or uncle should be put on some kind of list

No. 1987734

>>1987695
I honestly don't know so I can't really speak on that. But if this is true, this is why it's so fucking retarded that these dumb ass teens run to tell stupid YouTubers about these kinds off things instead of their parents or the police.

No. 1987740

>>1987734
I can get why some people don’t go to the police because it’s well known that (unless actual CSEM is involved) they don’t take cybercrimes too seriously but I agree they should at least try. Even if this Phxntom Graffiti kid wasn’t in the position to go to the cops or their parents Ponder could’ve done it for them or even told them how to CyberTip the FBI. If the allegations were true Ponder dismissed a serious case, if they were false why the fuck did she publicly flame a child instead of privately educating them about the dangers of getting involved so young? Someone’s said this before but the only reason Ponder was so popular was because all the people she responded to were dumbass kids who are literally the lowest hanging fruit and easiest people to debunk

No. 1987774

>>1987695
I remember this shit kek. Turns out the kid Phxtomgraffiti or whatever made the grand majority of it up and lied about screenshots that they were in/blurred by daying it was someone else, and was an absolutely insane, attention seeking 14 year old that made new accounts over and over because they were so toxic. I don't even know what they currently go by, but it was really funny when it was happening.

No. 1987852

>>1987740
AYRT and I get that but still, what the hell makes them think a YouTuber, a person who is not an officer of the law can help them? It's true that police hardly take cyvercirme seriously but it's still worth trying vs telling a dumb ass YouTuber who really can't do shit at all. I agree though that if Ponder really was this responsible person, she could've helped them by point them to the authorities but she didn't do that. Though if >>1987774 is right that it was all just a made up thing for attention then fuck lol. This is why I can't blame cyversecurities for taking all these cases seriously

No. 1988151

Since Doodletones has been brought up as he's the next on the chopping block for when Lio throws him under the bus, I find it very funny and pathetic that some of these commentators who are commenting on this drama and try to come off as "edgy" but yet they're too scared to (properly) pronoun someone like Doodletones and play stupid on not knowing that trans is bullshit and that people like CrystalFlame, Doodle, ToastyVanilla, and Peaches have not changed sex. And I don't really understand why this is since most of these people are not big channels and more than likely make no YouTube adsense money from doing these videos.

No. 1988233

I appreciate that Legiha is continually giving the business to Lio and Doodletones and keeping a spotlight on them but my god is she really annoying when she yells her fucking head off to the point where you think she's gonna give herself a heart attack. Her "they are wasting my time" phrase is honestly a tad annoying because let's be real here, no one is forcing her to stick around and continue commentating on this stuff, she can commentate on other things. Like if she's seriously this bothered, she can take a little break and wait until Lio and/or Peaches pops back up and then jump back on it but as is, there's no point in screaming your head off for them (well for Lio) to post a video when he clearly isn't going to do it (if at all), he would've done it by now. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually is still on YouTube on a second channel tbh.

No. 1988244

Dude I don't know how Lio's wife is supporting him. Lio bascially cheating on her with Peaches and now possibly Doodletones is absolutely crazy to me

No. 1988247

>>1988244
I feel like his wife must have very subpar self-esteem which is why she sticks with him through all of this shit. I mean could it be possible they have an open relationship? Because I agree with you that any sane woman would've noped the fuck out of this scenario by now.

No. 1988263

>>1988247
It just doesn’t make sense to me why she’d stick with lio even with low self esteem. Like i get that the south has strict beauty standards on what’s “southern beauty “, but she’s too smart for lio and can do much better than an ugly man child

No. 1988274

>>1988263
Unfortunately low self-esteem can do a lot of damage on one's psyche and we see this from time to time, usually the boyfriend or husband is physically abusive but I feel like in this case, it's all mental. She probably was with Lio for a long time even before he became an unironic basement dwelling neckbeard.

No. 1988350

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>>1987740
> if they were false why the fuck did she publicly flame a child instead of privately educating them about the dangers of getting involved so young?
Because she is spiteful. Fantastic example: Those videos she made about Dollieguts were entirely in retaliation against Chimerama for going to her for help when she didn't want to. Just to punish her she skewered her own credibility with incredible leaps of logic.

See, she has this habit of threatening people who have irked her and as you can see in picrel, while she pretends to be cordial, when they don't back down and disassociate themselves from the situation she makes posts attempting to ruin their reputation. Another example, Her pals (Diapertones, Chuuli, and some other Literally Whos) on top of threatening to ruin Yoyo's life with a "movie length exposé" for six months also went to the extraordinary lengths of drawing and posting an entire animatic trailer for the commentary depicting their "poor baby dragon" TheNamesJunkie being persecuted by Yoyo, then Yoyo being locked in stocks similar to the Stories thumbnail. All that, only to never post even so much as a .doc detailing the supposed evils they uncovered. Because they got what they wanted, for the problem to go away and be forgotten.

>>1987852
>what the hell makes them think a YouTuber, a person who is not an officer of the law can help them?
They don't really. Kids in these circles believe that these videos are being made as genuine PSAs for the sake of people who may otherwise get preyed upon by the individual in question. They can't see that this entire sphere of YouTube exists solely to generate clout.

>>1988263
>Like i get that the south has strict beauty standards on what’s “southern beauty“
That's a meme. Southern people don't actually have any standards. I've lived here 16 years and watched a chick that looked like a toothless addict be called the most beautiful young woman in the county. Even if his wife was a 3/10 she would have plenty of options. This is definitely a self worth problem.

No. 1988374

>>1988274
>>1988263
>>1988244
>>1988247
I'm almost certain that it's a classic case if them being nerdy highschoolers, each other's first real relationship, and together since then as they really didn't have any other options so why not. She probably could do way better even being average looking, but she probably doesn't want to through away all the work she's put into a probably 20ish year relationship.

No. 1988937

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Harley finally dropped the video on Peaches and the senate.

No. 1989007

>>1988937
Currently watching and will give a summary.

No. 1989020

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>>1988937
And already the comments of Omnia’s videos are starting to get the “apologize to Harley” shit lmao. Harley’s really the same as JAR imo, an autistic grifter, slightly better as Harley stopped white knighting for Peaches but I still heavily question Harley since Harley was sitting on the shit with Senate for like a year now, even by March 2023 a lot of the shit with Lio was out and yet Harley, JAR, Ponder, Streamline, Oranges, etc. were silent. And Harley has a shit ton of milk from outside the ACC and only really looks good when put next to other ACC tards

No. 1989050

>>1989020
Nothings more cringe when random people doing in the comment section demanding an apology on behalf of a YouTuber. Harley isn’t a victim and has been proven to be as shady as Omnia and the rest of the ACC. No one is owed any apology

No. 1989060

>>1988937
> Intro is just on how he was friends with Peaches and didn't really want to make this video
>First hour is just a recap of the Rosa call. Nothing of interest outside of Harley saying the reason he didn't ge involved before Ponder spoke up was because of anxiety and the fear of being dog piled
>In Sep. of 2022, several staff of Harley's discord and friends were brought into senate call by Peaches and other Senate members to interrogate them on false accuastions that they were spreading
>Harley says that this shouldn't have been made a public call and should have been brought to him directly
>One of the people came to Harley and said they had a mental breakdown because of how Senate treated them
>Harley removed all parties that were involved
> Harley hasn't been friends with Peaches in over a year, due in part to several instances, one such being Harley not wanting to go into senate publicly to settle a personal dispute between them
>While they were friends and even after they cut ties, Peaches was actively trying to dig up dirt on Harley, even Lio admitted his perception of Harley was influenced because of Peaches
>Harley plays a call between Mali and Lio where Lio says alot of allegations on Harley and ends it by saying that Mali shouldn't associate with him. Mali rebutes this by saying that Harley fucked up but has improved
>Lio has since apologized for this call, but Harley still points out the hypocrisy of Lio being a "say it to my face" person, doing this behind Harley's back
>Harley has since cut ties with Lio
>Goes into the Omnia part. He approached Omnia with information regarding Senate because he heard Omnia was doing research on it. Just alot of petty shit
>Basically Omnia went to Harley and SisterZio on how to deal with apologizing to Peaches. Harley claims Omnia misconstrued this in one of her ranting Twitter threads where she said they were hostile to her
>SisterZio did reach out to Omnia in a hostile manner 2 days later but later apologized

So, Omnia wasn't wrong then technically? I don't get what Harley is trying to say here when he admits, that at minimum, SisterZio was indeed hostile.

>Just and back and forth about her shit with Kai. Omnia tries multiple times to lump Harley and Zio together even though Harley disavowed what Zio said/did

>Omnia brought up Harley's abuse/grooming to prove a point of which Harley did not approve of
>Omnia later apologized about her accusations towards them siding with Kai
>They all apologized and the conversation ended there
>Harley moves onto Omnia's video and interviews Ponder. Ponder says that Omnia's criticisms of Harley are a bit unfair due to Harley's age, anxiety, and the chance of the hostility being turned towards Harley
>Interestingly enough Harley brings up multiple times that he was not present for the fat-shaming comments aimed at Rosa and doesn't like that Omnia frames it as such, but I don't see anywhere where Harley directly expalins this to Omnia which would explain her confusion on this front
>In the end Scrittus contacted Omnia in dms after her video dropped and she admitts that she doesn't think Harley or Scrittus should be heavily lambasted for how they handled themselves in the call

Overall it's just more of the same points we've heard about the Rosa call with an entire section dedicated to Omnia at the end that, while has good points against her, seems more like petty infighting. I agree with >>1989050 in that no one here deserved an apology because they're all shady. Alot of this could be spun as Harley trying to weasle his way out of things, but who cares. He's not Peaches or Lio so not alot to say.

No. 1989068

>>1988374
I agree, from what we know of Lio and his wife’s relationship it does very much give me “married your high school sweetheart” vibes
>>1989050
AYRT, I agree, half of this video about Peaches, Lio, and The Senate is just about Omnia and I just wonder why I should care, even if Omnia’s acting in bad faith over past drama like Harley says, Harley was completely fine doing that for Peaches with the Camila shit. Nothing Omnia said was even technically wrong other than than maybe the thing about Harley knowing they were fat shaming Rosa and being a bit too ungenerous with Harley’s wording. This community doesn’t learn, they white knighted Peaches under Omnia’s videos for being mean to Peaches now they’re gonna do the same to Harley and spam dislike and comment every video about “apologize to Harley” and the C-Tier creators like Oranges and Lin Lin with their obsessive hatreds for everyone involved in the 2020 Peaches drama will circle jerk about it
>>1989060
So Omnia literally gave Harley and Scrittus the benefit of the doubt but because they were briefly critiqued they’re now both screeching at Omnia basically? Something you’re forgetting to mention is Harley talks about how mods like Peaches and such muted Lio when he went too far in a call and threw a tantrum. So Doodle was telling the truth that Senate may have been trying to improve after the Rosa call but was lying that they actually followed through. also using Ponder for an interview is major kek. After the Senate arc is over I hope Ponder is who the ACC cannabalizes next

No. 1989280

>>1989060
I don't know why this idiot put Peaches at the forefront of the title when the video (apart from regurgitating the Rosa call for the 100th time) is focused on Omnia.

Was really hoping to hear someone with a platform bring new dirt up on Peaches. But I guess we're just continuing the echo chamber gift.

No. 1989293

>>1989280
If Harley wanted to be make another hate video on Omnia then couldn’t he just do that instead of hiding it behind a peaches video ? The senate wasn’t the only shitty thing peaches did ( the miles situation being handled badly and peaches being toxic to her “friends” behind their backs ). Harley fumbled the video badly

No. 1989340

>>1989293
He sure did fuck up. And funny but reading how Peaches talked shit behind her friends back, hmm sounds familiar kek (Creepshow). Makes it even more disappointing how not many people are connecting the two on a verbal level.

No. 1989379

>>1977562
It's been a while since I've been here, seems like I've missed some fine milk. Oh marvelous, we've been saying this shit was gonna happen eventually and low and behold. Wish I could've been here to see the fireworks but alas, I'm happy these perverts have been exposed. To think this entire shitshow started from Tobey exposing Benthelooney's pedo art…

No. 1989382

>>1989340
i wish creepshow would come back to YT
that drama was unparalleled

No. 1989386

Lio convoy is streaming right now.
Tuned in when he said Peaches tried to kys bc of not being the imposter on Amoung us. LMAO.(sage your shit and integrate)

No. 1989421

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ZakNotKyle has dropped a statement on his Twitter with links to Lio's, Doodles, and co's responses alledging that Peaches was the one who was abusive towards Lio spanning from 2022-2024.

No. 1989433


No. 1989434

>>1989433
Why would Lio and Crew say Peaches is abusive now after sucking up to her for so long?



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