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>>1922910Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread
SCREENCAP EVERYTHING!
DO NOT REPLY TO BAIT! REPORT AND IGNORE!
WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
>useful youtube channelshttps://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelpainting :Elizabeth Nourse - Self-Portrait as an Artist (1892)
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and billibilli
No. 1954913
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what are your favorite non western traditional artists (no korean,japanese,chinese) artists? i really love gennady novozhilov works! the watercolors and the tones are so beautiful and his stylization too soviet artists were truly in a league of their own, i would love to discover more unconventional artists in the wild that are either obscure or small
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>>1954913if you hadn't mentioned him already he would've been my first pick
No. 1955144
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What a thing to come home to.
No. 1955344
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I wish I knew how to draw male bodies decently
No. 1955375
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Do you feel like having original characters / posting them online is a juvenile thing? I am aware there are adults who still have ocs and post them, but unless they’re making it into a story or webcomic, is it odd to you to have them?
No. 1955382
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>>1955237I noticed one following my abandoned dA account with his blatantly copy of an artist I follow too. At least would you make some original art with his techniques, not tracing his pics and call them your own.
No. 1955398
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>>1955375not at all since oc's can help you with character designs and they also could be used as a way to gauge your improvement through the years if you've had them long enough, ive never heard any critique about having ocs unless they outright ripped off an another character
No. 1955457
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>>1955424>non-trans women who draw mecha artYes but she is a tif and known here for her cringe ddlg-tier human art unfortunately. Otherwise, look for the Transformers fujos. Jnwiedle is one I remember but there are likely better ones.
No. 1955509
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So here's a question I have concerning an OC type of trend and that is obsession with clowns. I follow a few artists and I noticed that a few of them are obsessed with clown and cirucs themes and not trying to hate because I think circus themes are cool but it's a bit weird to me how popular the theme and the whole clown thing is in recent times.
Like are these people really into clowns or is it just a response to things like Helluva Boss (Fizz) and/or Pennywise from the It remake?
No. 1955531
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>>1955529AYRT I never actually got into Homestuck but Gamzee had a lot of clown motifs as well as having juggalo style makeup/marking.
No. 1955546
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>>1955509Because it became popular among coomers
No. 1955549
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>>1955529They're not demons, they're trolls. There's also many clown and jester looking characters, as well as references to the Insane Clown Posse.
No. 1955563
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>>1955509Personally I think there's been a clown fandom (for lack of better word) for a while but it's been niche. Basically just waiting for an opportunity to popularize it to mainstream audiences. Then once whatever associated fandom slowly dies down so does the clown popularity and it goes back to being niche. I can think of like Tumblr clown artists and "alt" people (especially women and girls) who wear clown makeup and outfits. Especially since really chaotic fashion and aesthetic choices are in right now that focus on bright tacky colors and clashing patterns, textures, and shapes. All of those have very distinct clown associations as well.
No. 1955567
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>>1955536Power of fanart gets you here. Good what every major fandom can be able to produce high tier art. Most never read it.
No. 1955602
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>>1955424The transformer fujos are gods, i have a lot of respect for the people who can accurately draw the intricate designs
No. 1955614
>>1955602God, I’ll never forget reading a transformers doujin and being blown away at them drawing the bots so accurately.
Even during the sex panels I admire their dedication and skills.
No. 1955653
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>>1955602fujos drawing transformers yaoi are so based. I genuinely dont understand how they can be attracted to this but i support them regardless
>>1955614wtf how did the penises look
No. 1955700
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>learning how to draw
>learning how to code
>learning how to write
>want to learn 3D
How do you keep yourself motivated nonnies?
No. 1955705
>>1955700"no one drew the husbando/waifu art i want so i will"
"no one wrote that story that i want so i will"
"god gave me this talent to draw male ryona so i will"
No. 1955778
>>1955375No OCs feel normal.
What feels childish is posting shipping art . I’ve been sitting on a sketch I made and i’m too embarrassed to post it, part of that is because irls follow my account.
I can’t even bring myself to post it elsewhere
No. 1955952
>>1955344>>1955378Same.
I want to draw guys but it's so hard, anatomy is hard and it makes me respect those artists that draw good looking men even more.
If any nonna draws hot men, share your wisdom and tips and tricks or guide on how to get the hang of it.
No. 1956298
>>1955518Thanks for the blueprint anon. Yeah I see the correlation now and I guess I never put two and two together because while I like circus themes, I'm not obsessed with them so I haven't heard of things like Tricky Madness Combat.
>>1955546Oh wow lmao but I mean you're right. I guess I didn't suspect that because most of the clown latchers I've seen have been other women (especially Enbies). Though 3 of these girls have called themselves "Clown fuckers"… "I'm a slut for clowns", this is shit I've heard and it's as cringe as you'd expect keke.
>>1955563Ah okay that makes sense I guess. Actually I do recall seeing this clown obsession awhile back and it was being called "Clowncore" or something like that, just another dumb zoomer trend
No. 1956326
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Are the consequences of getting found out you make nsfw that bad?
For context I do freelance of sfw art at my local area for various shit.
My plan is to make a nsfw account, post some art and nuke it clean after a few years, but the paranoia gets to me.
Drawing ding dongs is just really fun to me, but I don't want normies to think I'm some psycho rapist criminal (besides I hate 3dpd anyway and I never want to have sex ever).
No. 1956335
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brujo ari melting down over people criticizing her nlog oc
No. 1956455
>>1956406Spending too much time on the internet is the main reason, and sometimes English communities are more active. and the mentality that some LatinAmerican artists have that the LATAM community is too
toxic or whatever, so they prefer to stick with foreign audiences for more attention and money.
No. 1956609
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Why is every animation youtuber so mediocre at art? you would expect them to be masters by now with how much free time they have thanks to living off making videos. LS mark, daftpina, pan, mr enter, etc.
No. 1956626
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>>1956335Kek I went to see what other people were saying because I love reading critiques, but now I’m confused. Is there a whole series of story content I’ve just totally missed? Because I’ve gone through Brujo Ari’s art and I haven’t noticed anything to this degree of detail. It’s 99% characters just standing and 1-2 comics of the main couple just talking or something about their family life.
No. 1956691
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I always wonder how terminally online fandom shit-stirrers who draw like picrel look and act like in real life. Apparently the artist is a 21 year old cis woman too but at this point I've given up at being surprised at age because fandom is such an effective immaturity equalizer where members are either literal children or adults with arrested development and can only build their thoughts around the latest zoomer meme words or tumblr teenager lingo.
No. 1956728
>>1956726I'd even go as far as to say right is marginally better (only with the added knowledge it was created by a cis woman)
>>1956725She's just saying that to indicate it wasn't made by a tif
No. 1956776
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>>1956772also, that one faggot jelloapocalypse has a pretty popular SCAT art account and he still gets to work in the animation industry, somehow.
No. 1956835
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>>1956831Have you seen Jazza's 'art'? this isn't the art of someone who likes drawing. He's clearly a grifter and doesn't see art as an skill that requires time, effort and care. Imagine making a career out of being an art teacher and your art looking like this.
No. 1956837
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>>1956831>He just doesn't get it, even after being scammed by AI. I don't understand how an 'artist' can be so cuckedHis art looks like this and he's a youtube grifter so I fully expected it from him, he likes the idea of quick AI money and hates the idea of slow high quality work
No. 1956892
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There's something so off-putting about these "relatable" vent comics. This one annoyed me because it's clearly ripping off the style of another artist whose own vent blew up a few days before this, but that one had a point at least. And does anyone else find it gross to see someone clearly reference someone else's style and pretend like they did that all themselves? I know nothing is original and everyone starts by imitating something or someone but I dislike this attitude so much. Nothing she posted before this looks similar in style
No. 1956893
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What are your favourite art resources that don't get talked as much? I am realy liking stonehouse, but i never see western artists talk about it. I found it thanks to a korean artist i really like. Also what are some famous resources you don't get? I tried getting into Michael Hampton so many times, but his teaching is a bit limited. I never understood how to apply his spine figure drawing method for poses that aren't super dynamic. I also pirated one of Marco Bucci's tutorials and it was pretty horrible.
No. 1957111
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>>1956942>>1956898These two that were posted on the 4th and 5th and blew up. I don't know if it's as obvious when you haven't been following this artist but the shapes and paneling in their comics always stood out to me and leotelier has never drawn anything like that before this.
https://x.com/shrimplify/status/1775747962532209076https://x.com/shrimplify/status/1776178710066200836 No. 1957121
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>>1957113I understand the feeling but for some reason this is the only artist that I've never cringed at kek I enjoy the poetic tone of their other stuff
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>>1957125But at least it has a point, the rip-off is all about being special but not knowing why uwu and the following one is poetic waxing about being ftm and includes all the expected talking points starting with liking girly stuff but not wanting to be subjected to misogyny
No. 1957165
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>>1957156KEK maybe that's why having a body at all "feels wrong"
No. 1957273
>>1957165She doesn’t just fit neatly into a box she’s a fucking open book
You can guess what fandoms she’s been in from her those 2 pages yet had the audacity to think she’s somehow different from girls?. I would be embarrassed if were her
No. 1957281
>>1955375Every character I make is bound to a story of some kind. It seems weird to draw a one-off, storyless mc and not bother doing much with them. Not saying make the next mickey mouse, but unless it's for the brand, try something with them. The reason most oc art fails is that most oc artist rarely if ever make their ocs feel lived in or at least have context behind them that isn't trapped in the artist's brain.
>>1955344>>1955378>>1955952My main suggestion is studying muscle anatomy and try observing the forms, how they stretch and squash in different scenarios. That way even the most idle of art looks good. I was in the same position as you three till I starting tracing nude male models and learned how to draw men that way. My only weak area are the faces but then again, faces aren't my strongest suit surprisingly enough.
No. 1957367
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>>1957165>>1957165it's a troontiful day outside. timss are sperging, tifs are crying… on days like these, nlogs like you…
Should be burning in hell..
No. 1957485
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>>1957130There’s a lot to make fun of about that book though
No. 1957514
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I don’t know much about animating, why don’t more anime use thicker/varied lines? It’s been done before. Is it more difficult? Costly?
Although I don’t expect anime adaptations to be perfect, I personally found the Dunmeshi anime’s visuals unappealing, and I think part of that is because of the lineart. It took the artist’s original style which had noticeably thicker lines, then made them very thin and uniform which makes the art feel flat and lifeless. I would’ve liked something like the SNK anime or the Scott Pilgrim anime’s line style to emulate the mangaka’s style more.
No. 1957523
>>1957514Can't comment on most of these but I'm pretty sure PSG was a huge bust at least partly
because of the animation style. (Also what's the anime middle left?)
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>>1957485The female defending and running poses look so stupid, the defending pose doesn't even make sense kek
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>>1957485He explained it in a very cringe way but it's true. It's clearly meant for animators and weebs so it does have the added cringe of anne may sprinkled in, but it's still a very good book if you can gast it.
>>1957437it has an official english translation, i have a very shitty scan of it.
No. 1957982
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>>1957910it's weird to me too. he might have some funny ideas (i'm not sure his shank length dance theory is a real thing) but it's clear from reading the book that he doesn't have any sort of prejudice at all
No. 1958577
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chloe wise is so ugly she looks like she smells like cheese. her art is also so bad, i don’t get her huge following
No. 1958609
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>>1958577Post the art nobody here cares how the artist looks crab chan,she just seems like the run of the mill generic fine artist?
No. 1958626
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Damn, a prestigious, elite art school out of anything being outed for using ai art is fucking insane. It's so obvious when you look at the visuals closely too. I just wonder why it seems like ai art users seem to almost make it purposefully blatant that they are using ai? Some retouches would definitely trick people like they want to but nobody ever revises it. Especially for big companies and corporations, I'd expect there's a huge screening process to release shit into the public but ai art always goes untouched, when it could've looked real if they had just edited it slightly. Just retarded as fuck.
No. 1958722
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Possibly the worst regressions I've seen so far
No. 1958767
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There's this coomer moid who is popular on TikTok where he fixes art by shading and stuff. I mean the tiktoks themselves aren't a big deal it's more so how he needs to fix his art. Also, it's weird how he draws sexual shit while advertising for beginner artists to join his discord and other groups to help them (usually children)
https://www.tiktok.com/@kentoncscott?lang=enhttps://www.instagram.com/kentoncscott/It's obvious porny shit and when he draws women it's only to appeal to him and other scrotes; while on the off chance he does draw men it's a natural one.
(Spoiled for boobs)
No. 1958797
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>>1958626their response makes no sense
No. 1958814
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>>1958797not only that but it seems they're slowly making ai art a class as well, what a shame they pumped out the best animators out of any animation schools and now they're slapping their faces with this why go to an art school when youre just going to use prompts and keywords anyways
No. 1958895
>>1957910>but if their skintones and features had been tweaked to look the same race as the artist they'd be fine. No they wouldn't race-chan kek. Regardless isn't this supposed to be art not amateur human anthropology? Why are artfags delving deep into pseudo-scientific race science to begin with? This isn't necessary for understanding anatomy.
>>1957982>he doesn't have any sort of prejudice at allI like how everyone is caricatured but the asian people with simple lines for facial features and the ideal white woman at the bottom lol. If you two are allowed to have your coping racist defending opinion, I guess I can; Koreans commonly have racist and white worshiping art. Its rare to see asian people depicted as asian.
>>1958767What an absolute embarrassment.
>>1958626Who? This is why art shouldn't be someones main job kek. Because it operates like a racket of muh prestigiousness. frauds.
No. 1959085
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I feel somewhat vindicated after seeing those tweets. People are realising that Webtoons is predatory. It sucks that if you're not East Asian there it feels like there are no channels to post your comic.
No. 1959280
>>1959085This is a good reminder to PAY FOR A LAWYER to look over contracts! Never ever EVER sign a work contract like this (esp with a corpo like Webtoon) without getting a lawyer to look over it. There's lots of them that specialize in artist contracts even. This isn't me
victim blaming but just good practice. Assume everyone is out to screw you over every time and protect your rights.
No. 1959329
>>1959085I started getting suspicious over the ownership thing when they posted one of their competitions years back. They outlined in the rules that once your comic got chosen for originals you'd have to remove it from other hosting sites. But if you retained ownership of its ip I don't feel they have any legal right to do that, so the obvious intention is that they want to gain total ownership of it to profit off it over you. I believe they also said you couldn't even produce your own physical copies to distribute. It was crystal clear what their intentions were. Honestly I don't believe that Hollywood bigwig shit, they wanted to do this from the start. The other monetized comic platforms from Korea do the exact same thing.
People need to start normalizing comic websites again so these corporations don't have such control over the community.
No. 1959600
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Which one of you faggots is this
No. 1959676
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>>1959674>>1959280I highly doubt that would idea would occur for the average webtoon artist considering a good chunk of them are teenagers or adults adulting. In all fainress it's not something the freelancing/professional side of online art communities talk about
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how do people think they're gonna get away with this? he deleted his twitter and fucked off. the story is that he asked for permission to use the character, was rejected, and then used it anyway.
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>>1959683https://twitter.com/MeepSheepVT/status/1778366318598885548thread about it here.
the guy was also using the original art by yube as his steam and ko-fi, and treated other artists like total shit. if he pops up anywhere again i hope he gets hammered like a mole
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>>1959682>>1959685Isn't it a better idea to share screencaps in case they nuke it?
No. 1959993
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Thanks for the recommendations, nonnas. I never thought to check out the Transformers fandom for robot art. Primarily I've been hoarding Megaman Zero fanart, because it's just a ton of twinks and one girl, who they're all shaped like. The fanart of the series has some killer takes on the otherwise sameface designs.
Anyone know any artists that paint similarly like picrel? Doesn't have to be animu, just… whatever digital art painting style this is. (Yes I know it's pretty basic bitch but I wanna get as many similarly done pieces as I can kek)
No. 1959998
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samefag but
Toru Nakayama has what I want also in terms of quick and easy (?) styles. I know he's a lolifag but it seems just about any hired Japanese artist is these days.
I just want to have fun when drawing technical characters. They're so bubbly somehow? And his art has come a long ways over the years which is nice to see. Is it bad I cheer on some moids in the art field? I'm just feeling pretty solid about seeing a childhood favorite climb up in the world without hurting anyone IRL
No. 1960001
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>>1959085>It sucks that if you're not East Asian there it feels like there are no channels to post your comicI saw a Korean person comment that Korean artists get a shitty deal too. I remember some drama with Lezhin and some Korean artists talking about being overworked but I’m not deep into the k-webtoon scene to know much
No. 1960036
>>1959280I don't disagree, but I don't think the average person they scope out for such a 'deal' has the knowledge or even just the money to do that. Not to mention there's a good chance webtoon will just laugh at you if you even try.
>>1959697Considering how the average male treats any female streamer I don't blame women for wanting to be a vtuber instead. Way safer.
No. 1960136
>>1960132Vtubers are honestly one of the best things that happened to artists, no joke. I used to make crappy NSFW commissions for a living because no one wanted SFW commissions, then vtubers became a thing, i learnt live2D to make models and now i maka good money making vtuber models. I do not miss my furry inflation days at all.
>>1960133they aren't, really. You can not like them because they are popular and whatever but they feed the art community like no other. You think big streamers like Penguinz0 give a shit about paying artists? no, they dont. It's vtubers that make up most of todays commissioners. They are also very anti-ai since they depend on artists so much.
No. 1960167
>>1960164OH. kek
My art is too flat for that kind of business. Good on you nona though; I salute to you and your hard work.
No. 1960277
>>1959697I don't watch vtubers but:
>they pay real artists good money>they come back for multiple designs>they often like unique ridiculous designs meaning they're quite fun to make>the art is visible and at the center of the whole stream, free advertizing for the artists>they allow females to stream and act silly and play games without being attacked for how they look>they allow females to stream while being more anonymous and safer from moidsSo I say they're a good thing overall.
No. 1960401
>>1960277and on the other hand, they
>allow moids to prey on kids while hiding being their smexy anime uwu guy>are fucking annoyingit's good for the art community, like really good, but outside of that honestly vtubers in general are a fucking plague on society
No. 1960518
>>1960517Line of action and
pirated reference packs from art station. But nowadays 3d models do the job
No. 1960548
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>>1960465When I remember artists that stopped posting and try to figure out what happened they oftentimes just started working. I guess they simply don't have the time or energy for social media/fandom anymore. I recently looked up Runmonsterun and annaxiin, both are working in the industry now and most of the artists I follow that stopped posting last year or earlier also did so because they got serious jobs.
No. 1961426
>>1956326That Finnish woman that made some emo incest VN got doxxed for it. You can get doxxed for anything now, I don't want post anything online anymore. Especially since I know I won't shut up about my opinions
In fact i found this general because I wanted to bitch about an artist I hate who I was wishing the worst for her(it was yudoridori btw)
>>1956772People still managed to find Shmorky's weird furry loli diaper persona where he paid a 13 year old girl to voice his fetish character, and he was really skilled enough to change his style
No. 1961519
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How does one get into doing thumbnail sketches, I tend to just draw some shit and then refine it until it looks good (and then make shit up when I start doing lineart kek). Whenever I try to do multiple small sketches I get bored and move onto something else, is there a proccess that makes you enjoy it or am I just not cut out for it? As an alternative question, are there any still functioning oeaki boards or programs/websites like them? I can emulate it in MS Paint but I'd really like the more restrictive palettes and canvas sizes.
No. 1961547
File: 1712985874248.jpg (1.48 MB, 2279x3600, sfs.jpg)
This sameface debate keeps appearing on my tl lol. What do you think nonnas?
No. 1961559
>>1961543Ikr, I need this Maya Ibuki fig so bad. (All her other ones look fucked up though, like someone put her in the microwave)
>>1961547They don't have same face in their other work, but the ponies look like they all have FAS. The discussion is annoying and retarded and the artist should have just ignored the comment instead of acting butthurt.
No. 1961600
>>1961547I find it really strange, like that initial accuser just wanted to tear down that artist and just said sfs to achieve that purpose instead of having more honest criticism.
>>1961519same, but for some reason my initial drawing always looks better and more harmonious than the "fixed up" version. skill issue? probably.
No. 1961700
>>1957910You would not be saying this if his art had hyper sexual women on it. You’d be huffing and puffing and writing essays on misogyny
Typical lolcow woman
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Did anyone see the weird drama around the milkman ?
No. 1962259
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>>1962256This is the guy that’s starting fights across art tiktok because some women have the audacity to give him a glow up. I don’t get it it’s something that artists have always done I thought it was the joke but now people are pissed that artists aren’t drawing him accurately
No. 1962263
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>>1962259I think most of the wokefest started from Kooleens’s portrayal
How does she manage to
trigger so many people
No. 1962302
>>1962263>>1962256 Confirms what
>>1962217 >>1962230 are saying. It’s weird how they adopted this yellowish skin as “accurately representing
poc asians” as opposed to white asians or something??
No. 1962385
>>1962263I saw the video and I thought it was pretty obvious that it was a joke. I thought the ugly man psyop shit was made up but I'm starting to believe it kek.
I'm also pretty sure the character is meant to be white, the game takes place in the 50s and all the other white characters have the same skintone. They just want to find reasons to shit on kooleen for being a woman that behaves like a moid and doesn't subscribe to the woke agenda.
No. 1962609
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>>1956626i follow her (i like the art style and wanna do it myself) and from the way she writes she frames kate as this nlog who everyone fawns over and draws her as an it girl. meanwhile mary is shown to be a typical 2000s mean girl whos so jealous of kate, is always portrayed badly or lesser than kate, even cutting off her hair to look like kate out of jealousy. kate is this angel often depicted as cute or otherworldy and different, mary as an annoying tryhard with no brains who always loses, so its not hard to see why people side with mary than kate.
No. 1962612
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>>1962609she probably deleted this due to that perception, kate has no reason to be jealous, the dude only likes her and every guy depicted is shown to be fawning over kate
No. 1962668
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>>1962609>>1962612>pretty popular mean blonde girl vs normaler heroineDerivativeness aside, I don’t know what brujo was thinking if she wanted her heroine to be the more liked one kek. Fans love mean pretty blonde girls, especially if there’s a way to interpret her as an underdog.
No. 1962681
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>>1962256who is this guy? the only milkman in my heart is this crazy.
No. 1962690
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>>1962670There's small comics, but nothing too deep, most are just "look at how everyone loves Kate! but also no one understands her but alex!"
No. 1962716
>>1962681I think he's from that game called That's not my neighbor
>>1962609>>1962612I don't follow her art but I do like the shape design in her lineart and the way she poses her characters. The most amusing thing about her OCs to me is that her main couple are both tifs
No. 1962789
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>>1962760yeah she hates when commenters say kate and mary should be lesbians, and youre right even when she made them "transfemmes" they arent femme x femme
No. 1962797
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>>1962609>>1962612YWNB Svetlana Chmakova
No. 1963111
>>1962990>she complains about work flopping sometimesKekkk I’ve seen this too with other popular artists with up to 400k followers, and the “flopped” work will have 20k likes. Sometimes I wonder how much time people like this spend on other things, because they post content so often, manage multiple social medias at the same time, and scroll through/reply to a ton of comments, sometimes enough to start discourse.
If I don’t become a mega popular artist in this lifetime, my one cope is at least I no longer have internet-based mental illness. The internet dopamine really fucks with you in good-feeling and mostly horrible ways
No. 1963206
>>1955144see now this is actually draw girl, call boy
even the trappiest trap still has pectoral muscles and a penis
No. 1963267
File: 1713108288793.jpeg (1.01 MB, 1170x954, IMG_2899.jpeg)
Might be too specific but can someone recommend an artist that draws het and GL couples?
Picrel is the only one I know
(Obviously must be a woman)
No. 1963362
>>1963285Ok I’m sorry or something
Do you know any artists that draw only GL and het or not
No. 1963511
File: 1713115399978.png (1.08 MB, 1080x767, milsae.png)
>>1963362Ignoring the retard, have you seen picrel? She's a lesbian who only draws lesbian couples, mostly butch women.
No. 1963624
>>1963608it's not flamenco
nonny, its mexican.
No. 1963847
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Kek brujo Ari’s post
No. 1963869
>>1963592I would consider checking her work out before making that assumption.
Not to sperg for her but Milsae is one of if not the only lesbian artist that I can think of that actually seems to love women. She draws butch, femme, tall, small, old, GNC, chic, nerdy, hairy, confident, shy, etc etc etc etc literally any type of real woman you can think of, she draws them. She's actually a woman who loves all kinds of women and it shows through her art. The pic posted wasn't the best example but if that's what you're looking for I strongly suggest her work.
No. 1963871
>>1963847"Spoiled grown man"
"My mom made me"
No. 1963885
>>1963876great recs, thanks
nonny. But why lacryboy? her art is generic coomershit. I am actually surprised she isnt banned considering how much lolishit she posts.
No. 1963919
>>1963900These are so nice, thank you
nonny. All of these make me wish i was a natural with rendering, but i struggle so much with it.
No. 1963950
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>>1963644Joeyccoco's sketches are very inspiring to me, she makes me want to learn how to make my art as fluid and dynamic as hers
No. 1964234
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>>1963644Jamie Hewlett but only his earlier gorillaz art, mostly phase 1. I’m a fan of interesting and bold shape language
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1e0DQmgBh7eb9aG87VsMmsCNgsuGHNjV6?usp=sharing No. 1964682
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>>1964621Zine short for magazine. It used to be some underground cheaply made indie book print solo/collab project. But now it's very high production fandom collaboration usually featuring fan art and or fanfic. The bigger ones usually have merch like prints, stickers, pins etc bundled in.
No. 1965272
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>>1963644Ito Ogure.
Yeah, his work is borderline porn but I just love his style so much. Detailed but it doesn't feel cluttered.
No. 1967278
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>>1965272He used to draw straight up porn manga back in the day as Oh!Great and it really shows in the way he draws tits.
His illustrations are really fun and he clearly enjoys what he does but I also feel as if it lacks… conviction, if that makes sense? Like he just draws whatever is hip? Sorry for sperging kek
No. 1968166
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Do any of you suck at drawing on the tablet, and strictly draw on paper instead? Do you ever feel like you're "behind on the times" because you draw on paper instead of digitally like anyone else?
No. 1968210
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Kek Brujo Ari complaining about likes.
No. 1968332
File: 1713400553464.jpg (1.83 MB, 2048x2897, 1000010647.jpg)
>>1963644Looking at Q. Hayashida's work always motivated me. I love her sketchy artstyle, it's makes her work unique compared to other manga
No. 1968347
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does anyone have tips to get out of your comfort zone? i know the answer is ''just do eth'' but whenever i try to i always end up in an artblock. I would like to start making pieces with more elaborated composition, backgrounds and perspective.
No. 1968431
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Why in the unholy fuck do tumblrinas and twitterfags love to DARKEN characters with light skin color when there are plenty of dark skinned characters in that exact franchise????
I put the characters drawn on the sides in picrel and I just don't get it. What purpose does this serve? I'm a poc and even I don't do this shit.
No. 1968496
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ai artist denying ever using ai when its THIS blantant lmao
No. 1968497
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>>1968496image it was stolen from
No. 1968516
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>>1968496Oh hey, I just saw this artist getting defended on my TL kek.
No. 1968578
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>>1968554No but some knives are illegal to own or carry on your person because they're intentionally made to harm people. AI in medical setting (with human moderation) would be incredible and possibly life saving if used to identity certain illnesses or defects that might go missed by the human eye, intentionally harming real people with it should be illegal and punishable.
No. 1968595
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>>1968587I'm looking at panels on pinterest and it's so damn good. I like overly detailed ornate shit. The armour is top notch. Draculas armour goes hard. I don't mind if it's over the top, it reminds me of thores shibamoto's work for trinity blood, which is kind of funny since the stories are polar opposites.
No. 1968656
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I'm 32 and I feel like I've completely aged out of the online art community. I don't see anyone under 35 making similar things to mine and they're all industry veterans, so it's not like I can befriend them online. Most artists on Reddit are just there to farm likes. Art discords are full of younger artists drawing anime or furry stuff. I can't get meaningful critique + I feel like a creep interacting with furries and anyone under 25. IRL connection won't happen because my city is full of banks and insurance companies and doesn't have an art scene.
I feel like there's nowhere for me to go. I'm so damn lonely.
No. 1968716
>>1968656I feel you,
nonnie. If it can offer some comfort, do you remember your childhood when you would spend hours drawing and drawing, with no internet communities to show your art to and interact with? Art centric social media and online communities have done a number on what it simply means to draw because you love to do so. If you think about it throughout the entirety of human history artists were mostly lonely beings who would work for hours on things almost no one would see, or on commissions for one single person that would hang in a hallway forever. There wasn't really a public artist community counting millions of people centered around sharing your art and farming likes like it is today, and yet people still wanted to make it. If you feel yourself losing touch with online art culture (and this is not your job) how about taking a step back and making art for yourself again for a bit, like when you were a child?
No. 1968744
>>1968716Thanks, I get what you're saying. At the same time I'm self taught and the only artist alive in my family. Grinding skills without interacting with other artists about the craft has taken it's toll on me. I was never into art for fame, I barely have 50 followers total for all the sites I'm on.
>>1968722Commercial and editorial art; book illustrations, spot illustrations, etc. The only place I know of where early career professionals my age interact is the SVS Learn forums. Then again, it's really a hangout for children's book illustrators. Many of the artists there are competent, but that's not my area of focus.
No. 1968762
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>>1968166>>1968743I like digital but i can do things much more realistic traditionaly. Problem is nobody wants to buy traditional art and so all my time if filled with digital commissions. I'm not that hopeful about it changing.
I want to branch out into selling spiritual oilpaintings, seems like something that could sell at least a little bit, but i can't find the time to make them upfront in this economy.
No. 1968895
>>1968573see that’s the thing, i can’t think of ai generations as stealing per se. datasets function in a way similar to human memory, and neural networks are basically brains. it isn’t a crime to have seen something once and be able to imitate it. i don’t think nickolodean is breaking down doors on people who can perfectly copy spongebob because they’ve seen him once or twice
i do agree that more laws and regulations need to be set up to avoid deep fakes and such but that’s also complicated, people have been photoshopping women nude since forever. not to play devil’s advocate but how exactly do you ban that
No. 1968922
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>>1968878That's the sakimi-chan original kek
No. 1969046
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>>1968566nta but pic related, also not mine
>>>/m/370484 so it counts.
No. 1969055
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>>1965272Nonna I fucking love Oh!Great and I will forever seethe I never got his artbooks kek.
I love his sexy women and idc how 'coomerish" his designs are to others.
A lot of his art is so colorful and fun and his boys are great too
I was going through a rut , thanks for reminding me of him , time to get drawing
No. 1969064
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>>1969058his Air Gear illustrations basically scream FUN to me
No. 1969243
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>>1969066sure,I highly suggest looking up his stuff, he's also the artist for the Bakemonogatari manga
>>1969128>His character designs are fun, energetic and sexy.Yes, exactly! I adore his girls. Not a good story writer but visual candy 100%, I still wish air gear had a remake, would be so cool
No. 1969248
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>>1969243spoilered for mild nudity, cute fish tho
No. 1969431
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>>1969066An illustration he did for his art books.
No. 1969547
>>1968175Do you have any advice for getting used to a tablet? I thought about doing some quick sketches once a day to get slowly used to it.
I'm not exactly new to digital art but I haven't touched it in years.
I have a really old non screen one.
No. 1969562
>>1969243Nice share. His clothing design is always fun, reminds me of Kubo’s work. Their clothes have detail that fit their personality.
>BakemonogatariCould never yet into the anime but I didn’t know he was the artist. I enjoyed what art I’ve seen from it.
No. 1969580
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>>1969563No, that's akio wanabe and he only did the designs for the anime.
No. 1969636
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Does anyone know if @okinawanogori was a student of KJG or just heavily inspired by him? his art is fucking insane, i love it. It feels like KJG but more polished.
No. 1969743
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>>1968868oh fuck I didn't realize AI copied so exactly, i'm sure someone could line it up better but it was shocking to see all the lines are just literally copied over. I hate AI for obvious reasons but I still kinda thought AI was better at "mixing" stuff and not just copying so blatantly
No. 1970068
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Short of basically giving a character short her and male clothes, how do you make a female character look more masculine/tomboy if the setting is pre-modern or should I just rely on facial and body expressions alone?
No. 1970085
>>1970076If you don't care if others see it then it's a matter of how you want the comic to look like and quality.
I know that you can upload non-vertical sliding on webtoons if that helps.
No. 1970098
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>>1970083The clothes are already simple as is. I don't her to feel like she's sticking out like a sore thumb from the rest of the setting.
>headwear would also workI'm worried that will make her look like a crossdresser
The biggest thing would be skipping jewelry
>maybe just adding masculine bootsI didn't think of that lol.
No. 1970099
>>1970068Hairstyles are a shorthand way, like think of Arya from ASoIaF. In the book she was considered a tomboy because her hair was to her chin or shoulders which sounds like a modern style but at the time it was appropriate for a young boy while very long hair was for women. If you read Wheel of Time there’s a woman who is a tomboy and has a pixie cut-like style and wears capris and vests while the other female characters are in dresses, and she is still considered a woman despite her “odd” clothing choices.
>>1969743From what I’ve seen I thought most AI just copied directly from the picture and frankensteined it from other images. It makes sense they’d yank the torso whole.
No. 1970426
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>>1970138Wouldn’t really work since it’s what I’m trying to avoid most
>>1970099I feel like this sort of thing is easier when men and women have very different clothes. How would a designer show off a masculine or tomboy character in feudal Japan or Korea, both men and women have identical silhouettes
No. 1970688
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I really hate how boring my art is. I envy those artists that can play with colors, brushes and textures. Meanwhile whenever i try to color a sketch i ruin it.
No. 1970886
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>>1970426>How would a designer show off a masculine or tomboy character in feudal Japan or Korea, both men and women have identical silhouetteswomen are still smaller and have softer rounder features, men have wider shoulders and are larger with sharper features, and you can still play with body language. It's all in the details. quick edit of a stock image to show roughly what i mean
No. 1971109
>>1971095I use artstation for my portfolio, but from what i heard pdf is also okay to use. I prefer artstation, because I can put additional stuff in one post (WIPs, other renders in case of 3D, etc.). It's also possible to have both pdf and some digital gallery as well.
Also this!:
>>1971101 No. 1971188
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>>1969743>>1970099the guy who used AI to make that picture didn't txt2img the thing, he img2img the thing, which means he took the original MHA fanart and tried to change it via AI, it's quite lazier than regular txt2img which leads to believe the guy doesn't even know how to use the AI properly considering how much options txt2img has as of right now.
as far as i know there's no evidence of a txt2img output being identical to a drawing that already exists
except the first and really bad version of NAI, remember that one, it was a mess so much for having the whole booru to train the model with because every pixel of the image an AI generates is composed of many different data the model is trained on, unless the model was really badly trained.
now this is a very bad rough job made with less than profesional tools people like him have access to but im sure his process was all too similar anyway.
No. 1971743
>>1971663nayrt but what tablet did you get nonna?
> how to get used to digital toothe only answer is practice , what exactly do you find stiff? is it the feeling of the pencil on the tablet?
No. 1972234
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What's your stance on artists posting art AND personal stuff on their "official" social media accounts?
I always found it gross when artists openly post their porn preferences, be it men talking about hentai and anime boobs or women being fujos commenting how much of a twink uke a character is. It always makes me lose respect for them as an artist. I honestly feel grossed out even if the artist makes erotic or nude drawings themselves, I still don't want to hear about their sexual thoughts and preferences. I mean imagine if the guy who painted the classic birth of venus painting had left notes like "I painted it because I wanna hit it from the back hnng so sexy right fellas"
No. 1972259
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It's driving me crazy to struggle so much with construction. I have checked several books on the subject but i still can't understand how to properly construct figures. I can understand simple figures like vid rel, but once it goes into 3/4 or some crazy pose i am lost.
No. 1972267
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>>1972264simon is a god at construction. Too bad he's an autistic scrote and uses his power to draw fanart of obscure cartoon waifus.
No. 1972270
>>1972259This is impressive but that lower torso is that of a 12 year old. She looks like a teenage russian ice skater with anorexia. Seriously
sus at why he's drawing adult women like children.
No. 1972272
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>>1972271Usually adult women's chin-to-crotch proportions are 3 to 2.5 heads. In the drawing it's only 2 heads, making her head too big and her torso too short as is common with teenagers. The way the abdomen and navel are drawn also seem childish to me, and it's commonly seen with lolicon artists. The only thing that's not juvenile is the breasts, if I were to give him the benefit of the doubt then it's a very petite young woman with an unusually childish navel (which does happen in adults).
No. 1972274
>>1972271Nta but
nonnie is right that does seem like he referenced it off a teen or a child especially considering the proportions it doesn't look like a stylized woman
No. 1972275
>>1972273Growing up online in the 2000s without parental supervision, my
nonnie. At least websites actually have tools to avoid that shit now and it's more stigmatized now. However I cannot unsee what my impressionable brain saw and can smell a loli or shotacon artist a mile away.
No. 1972301
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>>1972287Here's a reference of an adult woman in a similar upright front-facing position. Usually, at that weight and even without muscle, most women's rectus abdominal muscles are clearly demarcated as you can see in picrel. The belly button, placed in-between the rectus abdominal muscles, is vertically elongated.
Lack of demarcation between rectus abdominal muscles is a feature of children and young teenagers, their abdomens are "flat" with the belly button sitting on top. The belly button is also more round and may have an "outie" appearance, like in the original speedpaint.
Both factors combined give me the impression he either referenced a child for the speedpaint, or referenced a man and transposed the typical male lower abdomen onto the female figure.
No. 1972303
File: 1713607826453.jpg (Spoiler Image,162.44 KB, 873x1600, David-marble-sculpture-Michela…)
>>1972301Samefag: here's what I mean by typical male lower abdomen. Compare picrel to the speedpaint.
Transposed on a female figure who is already petite, the male lower abdomen gives the impression she's a child.
No. 1972306
>>1972240>i assume if you are following these type of artists they are the kind to draw porn Nope, it's nearly every single male artist I used to admire who drew normal art. The guy who got hired for that live action pokemon movie comes to mind, he just draws like realistic dinosaurs but kept thirst posting about hentai so I unfollowed him
>>1972242>You sound insane>but I get what you mean. I had to unfollow one of my favoritesYou're equally insane then nona
No. 1972348
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what books or artists are good to learn basic shapes and body composition from? I still struggle with this
No. 1972741
File: 1713643271094.jpg (53.97 KB, 284x301, Female-torso-study-sketch.jpg)
>>1972737The fucking site glitched for me and now it's fucking mirrored it's so difficult to read.
Technically no, most people won't notice and the figure still looks good. But it's just one of those complex things that I'm now going to obsess over.
Pic is similar to how I draw women and it's also obvious.
No. 1972743
>>1972741>The fucking site glitched for me and now it's fucking mirrored it's so difficult to read.use incognito
>Technically no, most people won't notice and the figure still looks good. But it's just one of those complex things that I'm now going to obsess over.Pic is similar to how I draw women and it's also obvious.
do you draw realism
nonny? maybe i am blind but the only difference i see is that the head is biggest and the naval is lower.
No. 1972749
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Incoming vent but god whenever I see this channel in my recommendations I immediately grit my teeth because she has a huge case of Dunning-Kruger's and her redraws are basically just "redrawing some /beg/'s work in my own style to show off how much more talented I am", not helpful advice on how to improve your composition and fundamentals. The rest of her content is basically "roasting" peoples' art and "don't do this!!!!" videos, I really can't stand how salty crabs like this are the first step most people take when getting into art as a hobby and they learn this horrible attitude from people like her. Her own art is the really generic kind of dated late 00's vaguely Disney-like commercial art of skinny samefaced pin-up girls that leaves absolutely no impact so yeah guess you have to get the personality by other means.
No. 1972753
>>1972750I don't know what it is about Samdoesarts that his style fucks me up so bad, it's like it
triggers a rage switch in my brain and I can't really comprehend why. His rendering skills are exquisite but it's all wasted on pinups of samefaced Disney girl slop instead of something profound. The expressions and faces he draws makes everything look like Belle Delphine to the point I'm really suspecting that he's using her selfies as references.
No. 1972754
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>>1972741Don't beat yourself up too much about it
nonnie, even Michelangelo wasn't immune to this. He basically stapled breasts to male figures and called them women, kek.
I guess this shows be mindful of the gender of the artist you're studying from, they might have a good understanding of their own anatomy but not the opposite one.
No. 1972771
>>1972743Thank you.
I just do lineart, I'm not good at much else. I like to study forms but I'm not serious about anything.
though I looked at my drawings and they do indeed have elongated pelvisesThe only way I could explain it is what I've already said. But if you look at the photo of the woman>>1972301
you can see the protrusion of her Illiac crest. If you compare it to the David statue>>1972303
it sits far lower to where David's sits. Comparing the height of her pelvis to the pic I shared shows the elongation. Her crotch would sit much further up than how he has drawn it.
No. 1973776
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>drawing a comic based off some show or manga I read is ezpz
>drawing a comic for a class where I have to write an original story and characters makes me want to rip my hair out and put off working on it for weeks
I regret my choice so much but I thought it'd be a fun challenge
No. 1974282
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How do you muster the strength to finish pieces when you are begginer?
>>1973123i dl it and i realized i cant use it because my mouse wheel broke. Ofcourse i could ctrl+ but that's super tedious.
No. 1974285
>>1974282Something I do is draw with friends, I send them some silly "make an OC with me!!" Videos and then get inspired by their stuff. I also like to have playlists with music that just fits, it helps me a lot with keeping on being inspired. And I like to make gifts, or get requests from people from time to time, it gives me a date to finish whatever I'm doing so I feel a bit pressured to just do so.
I don't draw or write often though, so I don't know if that's making me feel burnt out.
No. 1974298
>>1974294While listening to the music I imagine a frame in the music video I create in my mind, then I look for pose references, and then I pick a picture from magazines or photoshoots that I can find and kind of match the pose, and then I try to make it look as close as possible to the picture I have in mind, if that's not possible I try to figure out how I would photograph someone to represent that music video, and look for more references with the angles of the picture I imagine.
I'm an extreme beginner though so this all surely sounds like bullshit, but it's the process I have to make stuff that kind of makes sense.
For abstract stuff I just listen to the same song a few times until I have a clear picture of what notes or sections I want to illustrate or put more emphasis on.
I don't color stuff because I suck at coloring though, I don't understand color so everything is in grayscale or I add a tiny little bit of color.
No. 1974335
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Is it possible to get really good at art as a hobbyist? How do other hobby artists who want to improve practice without guidance from a professional? I wish i could go to one of those chinese artchools.
No. 1974391
>>1974352There’s heaps of online communities where you can post your art and gain constructive criticism, but you need to really look around for the good artists, and you should probably say that you’re seeking criticism.
It took me a while to find the right sort of community (there is a lot of bullshit you have to sift through), but my art has improved rapidly because of it. I believe in you nona.
No. 1974406
>>1974391Can you give the names of those sites? please
nonny…
No. 1974435
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>>1974432thanks, i have been trying to figure whats wrong with the face for the past hour
No. 1974466
>>1974458idk about other nonas, but i made an account recently, have done everything i could, posted some stuff (with trendy hashtags even) and literally get zero views. Not to mention likes. it sucks. but i got like 10 bot accounts following me, which is even worse than nothing. and my art is not that bad.
i know you have to get retweets from larger accs and all that kinds of shit, but i think it was way easier before, idk
No. 1974562
>>1974502Sheezyart came back and is anti-AI but is also filled to the brim with furfags. Registration is a matter of timing/luck on top of that. Do art daily is an offshoot site from ic but actually focused on said title (a lot of coomshit, but it's required to be marked NSFW so you won't randomly stumble across it unless you specifically click through).
At this point it's better to make a personal site if your goal is progress and record keeping rather than interaction.
No. 1974655
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Whats your opinion on using 3D assets in art? A friend rt this and I was impressed by how well drawn the guns are, I checked his twitter and it turns out he uses a lot of 3D for stuff like backgrounds and props. I was a bit dissapointed, but also impressed because it doesn't look as bad as those webtoon clip studio 3D asset flips.
No. 1974661
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>>1974655It doesn't look out of place here because it's all rendered the same but copying any 3D asset closely can lead to a lifeless look because they can't move the way things do in reality. I prefer when artists draw everything themselves because I feel like you can tell they placed it purposefully and didn't just rotate a model around until it sort of matched the angle of the rest of the drawing
No. 1974668
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>>1974662goatdraw on twitter! I really admire his skill, his drawings always motivate me to study myself
No. 1974680
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>>1974669He hasn't posted on patreon since 2022 and doesn't post much on twitter anymore either. The last posts are commissions but his older stuff has a lot of waifus as well, I had no idea kek I followed him for his trad studies and croquis
>>1974671Guessing it's lots and lots of drawing in general while continuing fundies on the side and always expanding outside of the comfort zone. The earliest media post twitter shows is this comic announcement from 2020 when he would've been 18 and it doesn't look amateurish so he's probably been practicing for years at that point. Iirc KJG himself has said that he's literally always doing it when he has free time so the secret really is just drawing kek
No. 1974684
>>1974679I posted it on the /m/ thread
>>>/m/372713 I really struggle drawing faces so any help is appreciated.
No. 1974685
>>1974655In this world of AI, I think using 3d assets are the least of artist's problem. So long as they trace it and render it similarly to how everything else is rendered, then it shouldn't be too much of an issue.
>>1974593>lots of furries and troons thoIsn't Kero the Wolf on there? That should be an immediate red flag if it's closed and invitation only, yet he is on there.
No. 1974731
>>1974720I'd argue it depends on how hilariously offensive you get with stereotypes. If they're not serious or harmful, I think most people ignore it.
There was a time when tumblr turned Homestuck trolls into humans and did some rather… interesting things with their races.
No. 1974748
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>>1974736It's not as bad as it used to be, and things seem to have been scrubbed, but it was like a race for who gets to be The Most Inclusive with their headcanons regarding the characters of the comic. The author made a joke about something I'm not going into detail and blatantly said they were all CAUCASIAN (the humans) but then the comic got edited and that panel probably doesn't exist anymore. Aliens with hijabs, cleft paletes, vitiligo, extremely racist versions of Día de los Muertos (had a friend rant to me about how white kids on tumblr were gatekeeping the holiday… idk I'm mixed with so much shit I can't say anything about it personally.) Very colorful days. All of that shit is scraped as blogs are dead or inactive, but there are some specks of it remaining. Picrel is just a quick search I did just now.
No. 1974751
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>>1974748samefag but there was a character who was named Dave Strider and I think he was at the pinnacle of it all, since he was colored white but really liked rap music. He's sitting on the car with the pure white hair. Picrel is how he actually looks.
Please ask me more about Homestuck artists that shit was so fucking funny to witness.
No. 1974759
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>>1974755I'm the worst person to ask about that part of the comic, but it started for me, personally, with really REALLY good artists (that probably are employed someplace fancy) shitting out fanart. Fanart that made no sense but it was so fancy with its coloring, it makes you want to know why they keep posting it. And then you check a page and it is (or isn't) to your liking. Ends up being funny. Has TobyFox music in it, and it was before Undertale. Animated panels. Simple art. Dumb memes. A good time I think?
It's a combination of factors but I'm more than positive it was due to really good artists shilling it in ways that intrigued the people who followed them.
No. 1974765
>>1974762>her art is amazing but has an incredibly obnoxious layoutFruitegg perhaps?
>I still hate homestuck for ruining western fandom.Oh those crackhead fans absolutely became a sort of cancer that spread across various fandoms. Nothing's fun anymore because of them and their spawns.
No. 1974767
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>>1974762In my eyes, the only good thing that the Homestuck fandom did was inspire OFF
No. 1974768
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>>1974765>Fruiteggyes!! her art is insanely good. Makes me sad her talent is being wasted on cookie cutter low budget american animation.
No. 1974797
>>1974482i've checked and from what i understood i'm not shadowbanned, but even if i am i really have no idea what to do. I don't post anything explicit, just safe stuff, studies, things similar to what i get on my timeline… And just nothing, zero views.
It sucks because another platform i frequently posted on also fucked up their algorithms too and my art gets maximum one tenth of the views i got there before. So disappointing.
No. 1974812
>>1974755At the time (and until now I suppose) it was the only webcomic to ever feel like a WEB comic. It wasn't just static images with an occasional GIF, it was fully fashioned to feel like a web project, you read chat logs between the characters instead of dialogue bubbles, it had playable parts and so on. It was originally done in MS Paint and continued staying in binary MS Paint style, the super simple character sprites contrasted with really detailed landscapes and world building. When the humor hit, it really hit. The universe was this mix of alien space brutal society and nostalgic internet crap. It reminded me of a Super Nintendo RPG.
The fandom being shit-awful was a result of how unaccessible the story was if you weren't willing to do a LOT of reading. You couldn't skim the exposition on comic pages, you had to read the full 20 page chat log between the characters. I remember people saying it was longer than War and Peace or something. A vast majority of the active fandom admitted to not reading logs but getting summaries off wikis and tumblr posts.
No. 1974878
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what…?
No. 1974889
>>1974878The 2024 looks better to me, it just has almost no rendering and has less clothing details/accessories. Why do so many artists keep doing "my art then vs my art now" posts that are a fully rendered piece vs a 20 minute sketch? Then they act surprised when they have a bunch of comments saying the old one looks better
I'm not saying specifically this artists, I've really seen this happen multiple times.
No. 1974962
>>1974878they are proud they have transformed all of their women into flat chested trannies that weebs seem to love.
>>1974889i disagree, there's enough detail in the 2024 one to understand that it's a shitty minimalist remake of the far superior 2015 drawing.
No. 1974979
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>>1974797When I reactivate or make a new twitter account it usually takes a bit before I get a notification saying it's fully unlocked like picrel. Did you get that already? On my last account I was only posting and liking for the first few days and then it happened after I began following and retweeting. If you don't already have some followers from another account it will be easier to get some attention by posting fanart (mentioning whatever it is of in the caption so people can actually find it over the search) or jumping on trendy hashtags, memes or challenges
No. 1974993
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Ang Vondra posted a another new video where she's larping as one of her two alien shota boyfriends along with the most grating cartoon boy voice possible
No. 1974996
>>1974962flat chested = tranny? Uh,
nonnie…
No. 1975002
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>>1974993Why the hell is she trying to reinvent Shmorky’s klurfs
No. 1975012
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>find cool Chinese? artist
>"lemme check their other work!"
>gets greeted by this
Degeneracy truly knows no bounds nor cultures, are there any other artists besides her which have a similar artstyle that i can follow?there's period blood
No. 1975015
>>1974979no, i don't think i had that pop up. Thanks
nonny, i'll try to repost some stuff and do some fanart as well. Although, i am already able to dm people, but maybe the account is still not unlocked.
No. 1975024
>>1975012>spoileroh, that's what that is, i thought she had simply
shit her pants lmao
No. 1975055
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>takes break from drawing for a year or two don’t remember when i stopped
>starts drawing again, art looks considerably better than before
anyone know the reason behind this?
No. 1975061
>>1975055Basically what
>>1975056 said. Your brain learns to recognize patterns and gets to process information and form relations in peace when you take longer breaks. There are people who draw like madmen every day yet develop at a snail's pace or not at all, and then there are people who stop drawing for 6 months and return with a impressive results.
No. 1975068
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>>1975012>looked into media>hypercurves moidgazeClassic art salt thread unwritten motto proved again and again.
>The best artists are always some flavour of degen. No. 1975087
>>1975066There's also some
pedoshit? I didn't look closely to each piece, girl looks so small.. Artist seems to be stuck in edgy phase and admitted to be in depression. Hope she outgrows it and recheck her profile image.
No. 1975094
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>>1975012What a waste, seems like their skill degraded with time as well. Also drawing noncon "cuntboy" (disgusting and frankly a pathetic and desperate attempt at being an edgelord). Seems like being a degenerate rots your brain and takes away skill.
Forgot to attach picrel
No. 1975179
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Just watched half a drama video where they explained why it was so hurtful to jokingly call jaiden animations "goth mommy" and draw her yassified because "she's aroace and hates being sexualized!!!". On one hand it's really sad how women have to pretend to be asexual chaste virgins for people to accept they don't like being sexualized, but it's also really fucking embarrassing to be an adult calling themselves aroace to begin with. Especially considering if/when they get over their body dysmorphia they're gonna have to eventually come out like "oops guys turns out I am sexual after all…" or keep pretending to be asexual and stay alone forever out of pride and shame.
No. 1975235
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>>1975196Didn't she participated in 18+ event?
No. 1975257
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>>1975235I can't find any posts with photos of her drawings from that but I doubt they were drawing porn and getting off to it on stage kek so why shouldn't she be able to be there? It's probably just so there won't be minors in the crowd when they make sex jokes
No. 1975298
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>>1974768If you like Fruitegg, you might also like Kindykotic, who has a similar art style.
No. 1975299
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>>1975008>>1974962NTA but Miku's actual design has a flat chest? Also by your logic I guess Lain, Madotsuki, Milkchan and most of the female characters from Haibane Renmei are all trannies, which I think me and a few other nonas would be offended by.
No. 1975449
>>1975353>bag of skittles Kek
nonny I need to use that next time.
No. 1975993
>>1975194>I can't believe you think that the one calling another grown woman "goth mommy" is less embarrassing kekit's not "less" embarrassing but equally so. it's imo super pathetic to be actually upset over it further than rolling your eyes and moving on with your life that a nobody called you a bad thing and hurt your asexual feefees
almost every big female artist online comes out as some flavor of sexuality/gender, it's worth mentioning their clown behaviour every now and then i think
No. 1976174
>>1976052I wouldn't want to
trigger the hordes of asskissers and send the artist into yet another mental breakdown. They can't handle not having 10K likes per drawing, imagine someone not actively coddling them. It would fucking break them.
No. 1978680
>>1974282You could create art for holidays, events or challenges, I get a lot more pieces done that way because it gives you both a theme and a deadline. This is coming from a fandom artist's perspective, so it might not all apply if you aren't one, but along with real-life holidays, there are birthdays of fictional characters (or of artists whose OCs you admire), anniversary or release dates of media you like, fandom challenges like secret santa or character/ship weeks, inktober or any of its many derivatives, etc.
Also, in pureref you can zoom with Z + left click, pan with alt + left click, pretty easy plus the keybinds are completely customizable.
No. 1978951
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>>1975179I was very confused why it would cause such a negative reaction considering her representation is like a blob but apparently it's based off of her vtuber model
No. 1978962
>>1975179Kooleen is basically the art community's punching bag at this point. People throw wildly incoherent arguments against her like parrots even when it doesn't apply
>omg you white washed a white guy!I bet none of these people batt an eye at the goth mommy trend but because Kooleen said now it's the worst thing ever and OMG SHE'S A REAL HUMAN BEING NOT A CHARACTER!??!?!?!1111!!
I hope I don't have to say this but calling someone goth mommy is cringe anyway but none of them care about that
No. 1979379
>>1979321A couple things stand out to me about this video:
>started in 2022I think that any artist who started selling right after lockdowns were lifted had really unrealistic expectations set. Before covid a lot of us who had been selling for a while were expecting the US AA bubble to burst because of how 2018 and 2019 turned out but it looks like that may have been delayed til this year.
>can't get into consAt least for the US, the writers and then actors strikes really fucked up how much visual work was available and the animation guild is about to go into negotiations this year, so this is going to remain an ongoing problem where the competition is extremely high for limited supply.
>expensive tablesThis is rising very rapidly and due to above point, people are paying out of desperation even for new/er shows. It's probably going to continue going up because there's basically a neverending supply of people willing to pay.
tbh this last point is why I'm probably gonna quit doing cons after this year, it's fucking stupid to be taking time off my dayjob and paying a king's ransom to do more work for smaller margins.
No. 1979723
>>1979321Cons are overpriced now. They have inflated their prices so congoers can't even attend during sometimes okayish conventions. Between the hotel, travel, ticket, and food costs, buying from vendors has been a nightmare too even if they are trying to keep their costs low. They still have to inflate them to adhere to their inflated prices for the stuff they need to make their merch.
It's a shitshow all around. This is going to be the second year I don't attend any cons.
No. 1980373
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I'm coming back after a 5 year break and making all kinds of beginner mistakes and it's driving me insane, but I'm not giving up. My anatomy is good for the most part, I'm getting back into the groove of things, but everything always ends up looking a little slanted and flat, like weirdly 2D… I wonder if I'm too close to the paper or something, or if I need to hold it up in the mirror from time to time. When I look back at my old art I see this mistake from time to time but not as often as right now.
Another thing I'm struggling with is style. I didn't notice it much before but it feels very amateur and american. I've been aiming for something like picrel and my noses always ruin it, that or the eyes, I have trouble not falling into the trap of enlarging everything to 'see' it better as I'm drawing it and making it look cartoony. I'm making strides in other areas though, enjoying drawing clothes and poses are starting to come instinctively again (though I still have the most trouble with drawing someone just standing straight on weirdly enough, lol).
No. 1980423
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>>1980410I understand artists are still indie and small, not so sure about the faceless manufacturing companies that does all the AA merch. I agree with the other anons how unfortunate it is that AA became a huge culture of consooming plastics, acrylics, whatever. If makes me die inside seeing the same genshin character printed on increasingly unoptimized acrylic charms again and again from 200 different artists.
No. 1980425
>>1980423i've never actually done acrylic charms so idk how it works. What makes them particularly wasteful compare to other merch? I mostly do prints, not s
ure how that stacks up against plactics in terms of harm to the environment.
No. 1980453
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My amputee furry TIF personal artcow is now dating a schizo shotacon who's into vore while still living with and mooching off her ex-boyfriend, god this bitch is messy as fuck
No. 1980486
>>1968656I feel similar, nona, except I am occasionally into things that seem to be popular among younger people. I don't necessarily feel like a creep when I interact with younger people or even minors, but when they are a majority of whatever place I go to, it does feel lonely. Sure, nothing really stops me from producing and interacting with the content I make without it being personal, but I want friends after all. I see people my age or even much older in fandoms here and there, but I'm not entirely sure how to approach them. Is it just me, or being older in general makes people less likely to be open for new friendships? Even if they themselves want communities and struggle like I do, they seem to be less likely to be as brave as young people. Literally, every time I made a post along the lines of "looking for a friend", it's always people in their late teens/early 20s who would crash into my DMs, saying, "I know you asked for someone your age, but you seem to be an interesting person, have really cool art style, I enjoy your posts on X topic, etc". People my age and older just quietly lurk, and while I get it, it's annoying and heartbreaking.
No. 1980499
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I don’t understand the appeal of these.
No. 1980503
>>1980487To be fair he's a massive cuck so she just secured housing for at least another year
>>1980499They're for people who can't come up with shit themselves because they're lazy or have no personality or no connection to either their ocs or fandom they're in
No. 1980524
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>>1980520There are actually descriptions in the images that got cut off by the cropping. But it's all meaningless shit like "The sleepy" x "Their alarm" kek what would anyone need or want stickers like this for? I get that liking one of those posts is easy because "wow that's literally bingus and blorbo!!" but if I got a sticker I'd rather have one that's customized and shows my actual characters
No. 1980544
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>>1980499>>1980524Kek, this bitch doesn't even know any real ship tropes, it seems. Picrel is sending me because it's literally meaningless. Good grift indeed.
No. 1980640
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>>1980499this bitch is responsible for THE twitter discourse icon picrew. of course she's on some braindead grift
No. 1980780
>>1980358>Can we just go back to people stenciling/embroidering stuff on $5 cotton tote bags that I would use to carry convention merch/doujinshi around withTake me back. I loathe how consoomer AA has become, with even the worse artists having access to producing cheap plastic shit like
>>1980423 with flavor of the year anime characters that will rot in a landfill 5 years from now. You can't even tell what fandoms artists are interested in, because they're drawing every character, just to break even at cons after manufacturing unnecessary acrylic and enamel pins. A plushie
>>1980433like this is impressive, but it's still equivalent to a Walmart knockoff of a Squishmallow, which are consoomer in itself. It seems like there's no room anymore in AA for illustrators who want to work at smaller scales and have fewer products. I'm not even sure if con-goers necessarily prefer artists with a hundred plastic charms at their table, but certainly AA staff accepting artists seem to want artists to be mini brands selling a dozen Chinese manufactured products over smaller scale artists.
No. 1980959
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>mfw i follow popular asian artists for inspo but it turns into a doomscrolll
No. 1980985
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>>1980959It's even worse when they post about their age and they are younger.
No. 1981006
>>1980959I've bought some Chinese artists course and let me tell you
they're not that good they're good at making it seem its good.they all take shortcuts most tutorials show photobashing, tracing models and color picking from remaining artworks and sometimes outright filtering the hell out of it (also a reason some Chinese artist suck ass at anatomy) don't be dismayed by the age number nonna you still have time to improve.keep on it!
No. 1981145
>>1980622Similar crone here, totally agree that it's incredibly difficult to establish friendships while tabling especially if you've been in it for a while. The few relationships that I've managed to maintain doing AA over the years are the ones I developed when I was initially starting out. I haven't really made new friends in recent years because the few artists I've spoken to are significantly younger/at different life stages, and these days I have some amount of regret for not trying harder to stay in touch with the older artists who dropped out of the circuit.
That and it's always a potential landmine as to personal values and beliefs when a lot of artists are a bit terminally online and have less tolerance for nuance. I think I'm just going to end up doing what the anons in the oldweb thread have been talking about, making my own site somewhere and emailing others who are doing similar in order to develop new friendships.
No. 1981544
>>1981423I see where you're coming from, but that wasn't critique. It was solid suggestions that devolved into meaningless anger.
It also isn't critique because I didn't post anything related to my art (probably won't on this website) and yet the ripped into me as if they could already perceive my problems.
The only person who actually gives me critique in my life is this one scrote I know, and he's pretty relentless about it. But only in regards to specific stuff. I was venting about wanting that kind of approach but related to anatomy rather than the thing he focuses on. Please don't make further assumptions based on a little ramble I made. This is making me start to hate the art community as a whole when it comes to venting.
I don't want to be spoonfed, perse. I just want to have art friends who can help me out in ways that can be seen as mutual. I had that. I lost that. I want it back.
No. 1981705
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>>1981679Okay but just a fore warning, most are unfinished and I have very specific taste
I want to sculpt a bjd husband myself so I'm collecting reference
No. 1981725
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>>1981706I ended up flooding like a dumbass so here's a shitty collage
No. 1981770
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What do you do when you're bored at drawing and grinding repetitive things like animation or comics.
No. 1981843
>>1980959>>1980985Excuse the incoming blogpost (i'll sage), I just want to share some perspective to hopefully cheer up the nonnas. I was that popular young artist. Grinded art like hell from age 14. At 19 I had a semi popular art twitter, regularly getting 1k likes on anything I posted. Some of my work went semi-viral (70k+ likes in a couple days). A couple blue checkmarks following me. Many of my childhood art idols PM'ing me, saying how good my art is etc. All in all I had a decent chance of making it as an artist.
Here's the two most important points that will hopefully make you nonnas feel better:
1) I threw it all away. The stress, not having a life outside of art, uncertain financial future (you'd be surprised how many professional art gods have to live on scraps) all got to me. Additionally, being good at art means nothing if you can't draw the things you want to. I did commissions and they came out good and my clients were overjoyed but I just fucking hated every second spent drawing shit I didn't care for, and always hated the final outcome. There was no soul in the art I made for money.
2) I pretty much only looked up to "bad" and unpopular artists. Constantly being in the art sphere, seeing 100s of artworks every day the popular artstyles started to bore me. Sure, they were all polished with good anatomy and thousands of likes but they all looked boring. But occasionally I would stumble upon an amateur artist with less than 600 followers who has yet to be infected with the current trendy cookie cutter artstyle and their works would completely transfix me. A lot of art which survives the test of time is really concept>>>>>technical prowess. So I say don't sweat it, nonnas and just make things you care about. You'll find your footing and your audience in time.
No. 1982057
>>1981843Regarding commissions, god, true, they sucked the soul out of me. I did them in the style that just wasn't satisfying to me, when I started out it was mostly characters with interesting designs, but the more i worked, the more fetishy and ugly things they commissioned me got. There were so many outright uncomfortable interactions, especially when they found out I'm a female artist. Fetish porn as references, borderline porn requests to the art even though i warned them that i don't do nsfw. I needed money and still do, but i've burned out so much, stopped responding to inquires and lost everything. I still get some of them finding me by my old username and I just don't want to do that anymore, god. I also didn't have that much of a presence online as an artist, it was so random the way i got these commissions, so after dropping i'm basically left with nothing but imo kinda ugly commissions and years wasted.
No. 1982080
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>>1982066I know, i just envy the artists that carry their shit writing with their art. Like this guy.
No. 1982094
>>1979321Been doing cons at least once a year since 2015. Tbh boothing at cons is not worth it at the moment due to multiple factors. The main factor is because of the economic downturn most countries are facing right now. I'm from a third world hellhole and people are tightening their purses. Ticket prices to anime cons have risen a lot so visitors can't really spend much after buying entry tickets. From what I observe (in my country at least), people just go to the con to cosplay and meet friends; and if they do buy something it's of official anime merchs. Plus, I think most artists have become too focused on making money and you can see it in the merchs their selling. Everyone just sells fotm animes so it's boring for con visitors. Why buy fotm anime trinkets with questionable quality from an indie artists when you can buy good quality official merchs easily. I think boothing at an anime con is only worth it for artists that are already popular on social media.
I'm thinking of throwing the towel on this whole con boothing thing. This year is going to be my last rodeo. It's no longer fun for me. The purpose of me boothing at a anime con was to make like minded artist friends and meet fans who enjoy the same anime series but nowadays people treat artist alleys more like a money-making place. The vibe is becoming more like a business competition than a gathering of anime fans. Not only that, I've experienced and witnessed devastating friendship breakups due to extreme competitiveness between con artists. Overall, I'm just too old, too tired and too jaded of the whole artist alley scene now.
No. 1982232
>>1981328Update: I bought a 13" Cintiq for $20 and as a
nonny that's only used a 9" 1st gen ipad pro screen it's blowing my mind
No. 1982268
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>>1982242its akebi chan no sailor fukku. It's scroteshit but the art is beautiful.
No. 1982395
>>1982326It came with a pen case that has a bunch of tips in it but they all looked identical. The owner said they barely used the tablet at all, so it was sold in all of its original packaging.
>>1982351I wanted to try a tablet because my ipad freezes when there's too much going on in CSP, and it's crashed it at least once.
No. 1982904
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Why are qrts so mad at OP? All she said was she prefers ONE’s art, nothing more. How is it bad to prefer the original creator’s work? And people who know of ONE as an author are likely to be aware of his other work Mob Psycho, which has a lot of fans who see the charm in his art.
No. 1982973
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>>1982904the top right comparison really gets me. ONE's objectively better in composition and atmosphere. I like Murata's work, I find his girls very cute, but ONE has a special talent that is hard to describe.
No. 1982986
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>>1981579I do use what I have. Which is why I said the anon's advice started out great. The insult towards the end
>Stop expecting people to feed you the answer, it's not anyone's job to do that.was out of left field entirely and I found that kind of frustrating that they felt like they needed to add that.
You're very kind and honestly, I do agree with what you say. But I had a time when my artist friend who drew considerably better than me told me one thing I overlooked in my studies and it changed the trajectory of my art immensely. I was only fizzling about the fact that I can't really bounce ideas off of her anymore (personal issues with her own obsession with perfection just makes her hate art outright nowadays) - and yes, like you said, it sucks. It certainly does. The world sucks and being an artist is hard. And I was just complaining.
Again; I use what I have. I have invested in a lot of books (purchased and pirated), used my own ugly and deformed body as a reference, tried art school (lol yeah that didn't work out) and a number of things. I just like that addtional added help of redlining. I'm not asking anyone here to
do the redlining. I just felt like I needed to vent somewhere, and this felt like the right thread. I'm stuck and I wish I had the help to get me unstuck. And truthfully, that was my fault for venting in the wrong thread.
>>1980316>maybe include reference images from more skilled artists so people giving advice can tailor it for what you're aiming forIf I ever actually go through with throwing my art at people (paid or volunteers) to redline, I'll definitely keep this in mind!
Anyways here is a type of "abstract" art I Find Neat as an apology for shitting up the thread.
No. 1982987
>>1982044Some rando in one of my streams told me
>Just go ahead and start a comic. Even if it sucks and you hate it, at least you have something to show for it. It's better than just sitting on the idea, and maybe someday, looking at it will motivate you to make a little more, a little better.I hope this touches you like it did me.
No. 1983070
>>1982986Maybe
>>1982987 will help. Sketch or change mediums to break out of the rut. Read something different. Focus on your weak points and strengthen them. I understand the need to vent, and the need for a good soundboard from other artists. Sometimes they can feel like shallow friendships and even like they might sabotage you but if you can take a step back from it all you can find a way forward.
The image you shared is something I enjoy too. Thanks anon. Who is thr artist?
No. 1983090
>>1981006This, the anons ITT constantly riding Chinese and Russian artists' dicks really need to have this hammered in their heads. They trace, colorpick and photobash all the time, then stuff their pieces full of clutter and finish it with a billion filters on top of it all and normies eat it up. Like look at this
>>1975068 it's colorpicked from original paintings to the point it looks literally like paint by numbers and extremely messy the more you stare at it.
No. 1983182
>>1983174NTA but as someone who doesn't colour pick ever, it's not really that lazy to do so. You still need the ability to mesh the colours together and to render values properly to make it work because you can't colourpick every single pixel. As for characters not interacting with the enviroment, a lot of artists struggle with that because they're too used to drawing people in the void and so forget that gravity and lighting exists.
Photobashing isn't even that bad either, if the photos (and/or 3d models) are bought and in fair use or made by the artist themselves with the intention to save time, and I say this as someone who is autistic about drawing every detail myself without any help beyond references.
I will say that Chinese and Russian digital artists are definitely overrated, however Slavs do have far better cartoony styles than Americans or the Brits.
>>1983179That's not the burn you think it is, it makes you sound insecure
No. 1983188
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>>1983184Read my post, you silly goose I am literally agreeing with you. However every person who says "bet you can't you do better!!!" in response to someone's opinion sounds whingey and in my opinion it's like an ad hominem against yourself. Art critics don't usually do art and they say far, far more retarded things but people still acknowledge and agree with their opinions
No. 1983230
>>1983182>You still need the ability to mesh the colours together and to render values properly to make it work because you can't colourpick every single pixel.Anon that is literally why excessive colorpicking makes a piece look incompetent. It's a lazy crutch because the people doing it aren't processing the meshing of the colors but instead just picking colors including the midtones and putting them next to each other. When this thread talks about
colorpicking it's meant to refer to the behavior of people not having any idea what they're doing.
No. 1983301
>>1982213I don't mind artists selling fotm anime merch because I do it as well. I understand artists need to follow the latest trend just to hit their target sales to at least cover the booth cost. However, what I do mind is artists selling fotm anime but don't even bother watching the anime. Why draw something you don't even watch. It shows that the artists is only in it for the money and not for the love of the series. I once bought stickers of a popular game character from an artist at a con and ask them which one is their favourite character. They unabashedly said they don't even play the game! Like you said, the popularity of a series doesn't last long now. You're lucky if an anime you like has a few seasons planned out but for animes that only has less than one season, it will be dead after the one season ends. I still remember a time where people used to stick around for years in one fandom and create lots of amazing arts/fics for their favourite series. I really miss those days.
>>1983161It was the worst experience for me. Friends who have been together for years broke up just because one friend is envious of another friend who got constant high sales at each cons they booth together. Con artists in my country are definitely super competitive. I find it hard to make friends with them. They stick to their on clique and care a lot about social media popularity. If you don't have high social media followers or only a mere hobby artist, you're basically ignored. Not sure how con artists are in other countries. I'm tempted to try boothing at overseas cons. Maybe the vibes there are different. I really do wish to make life long artist friends.
No. 1983345
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>>1983314
I think it's clear from the context that it's referring to just picking colors directly from references. For example, picrel has just picked the colors from the reference photo (the person who painted it admitted it due to being colorblind) which is why they don't blend in well together and look like glops of color on top of each other instead of blending colors to create shades.
No. 1983366
>>1983090I'm confused what you mean by colorpicking.
>>1975068 is a traditional artist, she uses markers she can't colorpick anything.
No. 1983889
>>1983301I just went to an anime convention artist alley and it was basically genshit/honkai alley. I'm ready for something else to take hold but as long as hoyo keeps pumping out cluttered bullshit characters that's all we'll be seeing for merch.
I personally can't justify spending a whole table's worth of time and money on fandom in general, especially fotm where it'll all end up looking the same as everyone else's anyway. I get kind of smug when convention artists bitch and moan about how their genshin/fotm anime didn't move because it's played out and overdone.
That's terrible of me, I know, but unless people are willing to take risks it's just a bunch of artists asking each other what's popular over what they like and sometimes you can tell they just draw it for the money. AA is such a sinkhole now. It's disappointing.
No. 1985094
>>1984545Yeah. There's a certain expectation to accept artists who are doing a bunch of popular art, but it's also a vicious cycle. If you try to give other artists doing different art a chance they might be passed up by attendees because of their expectations of looking for their specific favorite popular character.
So, everyone has to sell the same kind of thing to even have a chance at making sales. It's frustrating. I do wish there was a proper, no frills doujin culture in the US but our relationship with comics is fucked. There isn't any real solution at this point.
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>>1985162Nta but hey if you're doing redlines, I was trying to sketch some of the ref pictures from
>>1981705 and I feel like my male figures keep coming out skelly or female. Could you help a
nonnie out?
No. 1985441
>>1982986I'm the anon who replied with the "insult". I think you blew it a bit of proportion, if I meant to simply insult you I wouldn't have typed the previous advice. I can see why my phrasing was harsh, but what I meant is that you're asking for specific knowledge to be given to you in a soft and accommodating way. The person would have to understand anatomy, and your style and say it in a technical and soft way. It's simply unlikely to happen, people get paid to do that and I guarantee you, my previous teachers and tutors were mostly not nice about it. Even when they were talented artist, not all of them knew how to properly explain, so there's a skill in that too. The people "kissing your ass" are nice good-hearted people that probably just lack the knowledge to guide you. What you asked for is like the holy grail of advice, it felt demanding tbh.
I don't know you, but through your replies, you seemed to have taken it very personally. Even if you were just complaining, look at what lc is, we have 3 entire boards dedicated to dissecting and assuming things based on their social media and pictures. There's always a risk of someone replying with nasty shit even in vent threads. All that said, nonna, don't ever call your body ugly and deformed, I'm sure it's not and you shouldn't put yourself down. If it helps you to see it in a better light, your body is the vessel allowing you to produce your art, to experience other's art too, it's a beautiful concept in itself. Being an artist is hard and we put a little bit of ourselves into our art, so it feels personal when it's criticized, but your art isn't you, don't take that criticism to heart. Try working on yourself and filtering what really can help you grow.
I stand by my original advice, you should train your eye to spot these mistakes because relying on other's critiques is uncertain, it can help, but it can be also useless. I've seen so many bad redlines, I myself have done bad relines in the past and when I looked again, I realized how pointless they were. It's really hard to redline someone and keep their style, even pros tend to pull their "fixes" to their style and interpretation. We have a thread on /m/ for redlines and advice if this is something you feel will help you, but I said what I think of those already. The best advice I got came from very, very few teachers, maybe two, there's a skill in itself to guide someone and most don't have it.
>>1985405Look up the art rate thread on /m/
No. 1985536
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>>1985405here you go. left figure your rib cage, neck, and right shoulder are whats giving it the kind of female look. you dont need perfect anatomy to differentiate male vs female, sexual dimorphism doesnt have to be super exaggerated either(its my opinion sexual dimorphism in art is what you decide). top right figure its the ribs again, both shoulders, and the hips.
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As a member of a minority group nobody in the art world cares about (Catalan) the recent popularity of identity based art makes me feel weird. Nobody would clap for Catalan Thomas Jefferson or an art show about Catalan life.
No. 1986257
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>>1951437>>1985405I think you should focus in on the 3d form of the primary structure more, as when you don’t it results in really flat secondary form. Try breaking down each shape of the bpdy to simpler shapes them build on it. This is just my two cents though
No. 1986380
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>young black french woman draws fan-art of a black tiktoker in her own art-style
>replies are filled with black americans and other wokies calling her a racist yt woman for drawing her too light
>when she reveals that she's black, they start calling her self-hating and start making jokes about her being French
this really is the entirety of twitter discourse, moronic americans decide what's "woke" and what's not and if you don't follow their dogma of retardation they'll find some way to accuse you of being privileged
No. 1986472
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>>1986444i checked that retard's twitter and lo and behold, her art is fucking shit. This is why you always ask someone to post their work before even considering their opinion.
No. 1986814
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>>1986380The funny thing is that the model herself reposted the art, it doesn't seem to bother her. Who are they fighting for anyway?
No. 1986957
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>>1986674>>1986774This whole argument is really really annoying on the part of the Twitter users. While I actually do agree that the artist made her lighter, I wonder if they were trying to bloom her out with the lighting they used.
This isn't an egregious example and I don't think that most people are being malicious when they do this, like at all. The biggest thing these people don't get most times is that lighting when it's actually applied properly will do a fuck ton to a skintone and it's darkness but most of them don't know enough about art to realize that. Picrel
No. 1986989
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kek
No. 1987062
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>>1986989I feel like art as a whole is going to regress back into those boob-butt poses. We are regressing
No. 1987068
>>1987062It's getting worse, woman in your picture has her waist twisted unnaturally but her body proportions are okay-ish
Now people draw tiny heads with child's face, two big circles as tits, waist tinier than head and then huge hips 10 times the width of torso and it's somehow fine because "it not real" or some shot
No. 1987226
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>>1986957>>1986814Yeah, I think drawing different races has more to do with body/face proportions than skin color. An albino black person will still look black, because of her facial features. Retarded twitter users looking to get a dopamine hit from public bullying will always jump on drawings of black people with unique lighting on their skin or stylized in the "wrong" way (drawing no nose if it's an anime style)
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>>1986989This thing started with the Hartman hips trope, didn't it
No. 1987582
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imagine tanking your career before it's barely even started. Hope this doesn't blow over and actually has an affect on his career for being such a pos. Nicodaboy for the uninitiated
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>>1987062unironically we need to bring back the hawkeye initiative.
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>>1987588>I cannot understand why they are the worst peopleIf you're using a bunch of black SJWs as a compass to conclude that african-americans as an entire group are worse than trannies, pedophiles, Europeans white moids (who rape kids overseas and let European women get adsaulted by immigrants), Asian moids (who made beating women and aborting girls an actual culture), Arabian scrotes (who made acid-throwing a custom for women they don't like, and their pickme women), Afrikaners and Australians who chose to live in Africa and Australia just to kill, abuse, and rape natives, and countless other things, then you're right in that you cannot understand; because it's very obvious that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Cry about us some more with the other poltards back on 4chan, maybe they can lick up whatever crybaby bitch swill you're sobbing and throwing up like a dog. I would tell you to touch grass, but that would risk an African-american having to see your dogshit face and I wouldn't wish that on them.
No. 1987731
>>1987717>every small chest character was redrawn with x-cupsThis happens already and nobody bats an eye or threatens the porn addicts who do that. I think most people agree she looks lighter in the end result, mostly due to the artist overdoing the overlay effect I bet. But it's not always made with a bad intention, it can simply be incompetence. I do think she looks too light in the fanart and I understand why people dislike it.
>>1987728kek I relate to this. There is one character who is a brunette and you can really tell he is brunette when he is next to actual blonde characters and how close his hair looks when he's next to other brunettes, but for some reason the fandom headcanons him as blonde because sometimes the light makes his hair a bit lighter. It's my pet peeve in that fandom.