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No. 179757

Can we have a chat about this specifically? Questions, general discussion, your experiences, etc. I wouldn't quite include video game design or creators but folks whom are interested in competitive vidya or perhaps folks who stream and are looking to go full-time.

I feel like it's improper etiquette to type what's up with me in the opening post so.

No. 179766

>I feel like it's improper etiquette to type what's up with me in the opening post so.

Yeah, but so is not telling us. Spill it, anon.

I just recently found that this is a thing despite playing games for most of my life so this thread interests me.

No. 179834

You make more money streaming rather than playing for a team usually. Hence why a lot of high ELO people don't join teams.

If you're streaming, it's usually not that worth it to join a team that hasn't existed for more than 2 years. New teams tend to die off fast.

Good luck if you stream though!

No. 179853

I always thought about streaming but I don't play current or trendy enough games to warrant any sort of viewership. I know there is a market for nostalgiafags but that usually only works when you have a solid following.

No. 179917

OP here!

>>179853
If you're a girl with a high-medium voice, tbh, that's more of a start than most streamers have since most are male. Marketed correctly, a female streaming with a focus on nostalgic games could be quite lucrative, imo.

>>179800

Yeah, I have no desire to be "in the mix" with the competition and all that jazz. I'm actually more interested in doing more behind the scenes work, such as marketing (I am so into that), articles, team management - that sort of thing. I feel more money is to be made there and the job is a hella lot more secure as many gamers have a "peak," so to speak.

But, yeah, I'm trying to get into the industry and am having some trouble doing that, especially since I've been the very classic and depressing kind of gamer - no social media, little interaction with others, and all that stereotypical stuff.

But, from my research and just plain ok paying attention, social networking is just such a huge facet and I just feel like a small guppy in an ocean - I cannot believe I'm feeling stressed over twitter and instagram. Where do I go? How do I get noticed? Why did I not make friends in high school? Etc.

No. 179920

>>179917
Nah. If you're a girl you won't get thousands of views from games that aren't trending. Nostalgic shit is gimmicky for girls because they aren't "real games" like fps or mobas. Stupid, I know but that's 12 14 year old logic

No. 179962

>>179920
I just think there is def a market for it. Sure 12s are easier to attract but there are a plethora of older gamers who will watch a chick who just plays the trendy games but will be more invested in a girl that is interested in ~vintage~ games.

No. 179964

>>179962
You try that and come back to me. I just don't see it.

No. 179974

>>179964
I have no desire to stream for a living. But if you want to be my test drive, get back to me instead ?

No. 179983

>>179974
Why would I? It's not going to be profitable. Retro games get boring quick

No. 179987

>>179983
Someone's never played the original Deus Ex

No. 179988

>>179917
Find a team you like and go look on their page. Most of them have "hiring/career" positions. Some teams like Immortals (now disbanded) require BAs.

You're not going to make a lot of money.

One of my friends was a team manager for a really good dota team (won plenty of competitions including big multi-million dollar ones) and only made ~$2k a month, although housing is free.

Again, look for a team that has been around longer than a few years.

Freshen up that resume.

Why don't you also try looking up people already in that field and talk to them? Tweet them, the behind the scenes people are usually more open to conversation because players are usually too busy.

Social media isn't that important for behind the scenes people. Some team managers already have big followings since they were previously pro.

Another way to get in is to date a player. Some teams will hire girlfriends to do bs work. I don't recommend this route though.

No. 179991

>>179983
You sound like you don't play games much.

>>179988
Team management is more like something I would see as a stepping stone into something else, though - mostly because I don't like dealing with people that much.

I'll take your advice, though. I feel as if social media is fairly important since the bulk of the folks actually want to speak on twitter or what have you. Sure, they got my resume but they're totally into text convos in DMs… weirds me out.

Plus, I think going into being a social media manager the best step for starting into anything marketing related. I could be very wrong though.

No. 180008

How does one get into streaming shit? I have an ok-ish following on social media (I do mean ok-ish, close to to 1k but that's it) but not all of them are gamers… I'm kinda cute looking and very flirty, but I have a bf.

Do I stand a chance? Is there any way to do this without looking like a tryhard? How do I even do that? I thought of something like "hey I'm getting into this game come and watch me suck" but I don't know…

No. 180020

im trying to get into streaming but i dont know much on how to get started. so far i've streamed overwatch cause thats the only popular game im good at but i doubt thats enough to get started.

No. 180024

>>180008
>>180020
Recognize as a streamer, you are the product. Why should the consumer choose you over anyone else? What makes you different?

A good example of this actually comes from RuPaul's Allstars. There was a challenge to create a product and then a commercial for it. A contestant chose tape. The contestants ad was funny, entertaining, and very much their brand. It wasn't the tape he was selling but himself.

Get a brand. People like caricatures, for the most part. It's easily consumable. Best to choose something similar to yourself already but amplified.

As for how to get your brand out there, social networking, as usual. Team up with streamers whom have a slighter larger following, make friends with people on twitter, instagram, and promote yourself on your page (not obviously, unless that's your brand lol).

Some more other crap advice I could give that I don't feel like typing.

No. 180027

>>180008
Get a decent setup if you can, please don't stream just in your room with a webcam, it's not too expensive to set up a small green screen, and it makes a huge difference in the quality of the stream if your video and audio is good.

As >>180024 said too, do something that stands out. Don't just be another streamer that's kind of cute, there's a million of those out there already, you need to differentiate yourself somehow.

Do you play music? Do some music streams too. Draw? Do that. Cook? Sure. If you have any creative talent, try to merge that in somehow.

Try to play things that you know have an audience, too. Don't exclusively play OW or the newest big hit, but don't play things no-one cares about, because you don't attract viewers that way generally, unless you're really exceptional at them somehow, speedruns always get an audience. If you're competitive at anything, play that though, high comp level stuff, and especially tournaments always bring in a lot of views.

Try to involve your audience as best you can, make it feel like it's more than just them watching you play games, the human interaction is so, so important. Flirting can work a bit, but it's also annoying to a lot of people, and creates an audience you might not actually want to stream to, who're just going to flirt with you constantly. At the very most, your flirtiness should just be being able to make a rare kind of sexual joke or being really heartfelt when someone compliments you (because they will, or even when they just give you a follow). Add that shit on screen in that shows donations and who's your most recent follower, all of that. Play games with your audience, that always goes really well.

And try to build a relationship with other streamers, even if that's just hosting them whenever you can. Not huge people, because they probably won't notice it, but people who're known for wanting to help small streamers, or people just a bit bigger than you in the same games. Look for other streamers and try to play games with them, because then your audience is shared, and two people playing a game is always more interesting to watch than just one, as long as they're both good personalities.

Apart from that, stream regularly. Don't just do it whenever you can, set a time you'll always be streaming at short of emergencies, treat it like a job, even if it's not. Like, just do a couple hours each night if you can, because to build an audience, you need to be reliably putting out material, otherwise someone else will just put it out more frequently, and they'll steal your audience. Gimmick days always work too, like, if you really love playing a game, just make it so you always play that on fridays, or tuesdays, or whatever. Have a day a week where you play online with fans, and once your audience is big enough, let them give you suggestions for something, like, have a week or so where you stream a game your fans chose for you.

Oh and if you have animals try to get them involved, people love animals, like, give them a treat when you get a new follow or something like that.


Apart from that, it's a skill like anything else. You'll almost definitely be awkward and feel like you suck for a while, and you probably honestly will, every streamer does. But keep at it, keep trying to improve and look for what generally gets a good reaction, and you'll get at least an okay audience I think. Most important thing is to learn not to be shy, because confidence is so, so important to a stream quality. On the same note, don't be a dick, if you're having a shit day, don't take it out on your viewers, because odds are they just won't come back, there's always other options.


Hope that helped somewhat.

No. 180030

>>180027
>>180024
Yeah, these made me realize I'm honestly incapable of that. I'm too shy to even try. If any of you guys do that I'm really impressed and hope it goes well for you.

No. 180334

My bf plays for a not so well known eSports team here in Europe. They're usually among the better 20 teams, but they're slightly falling apart. I've been trying to get him to stream but he is awfully stubborn about it and won't even try, at least to have a plan B in case his team falls apart. However, it's awfully hard to deal with his practice schedule sometimes, being from 5pm-11pm, we have no time to do much before or after, and weekends are usually tournaments.

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No. 182520

OP Here.

I really wanna get this one going again. ;-;

I recently got a voluntary position to be a social media manager and it hilarious bc I am not great at it but that's why I'm not being paid :'D



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