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No. 1578703

Post about everything fashion related; designers, collections, the industry, jobs, experiences, influences and effects on ordinary people and your life, the past, the future, the present, etc.

>Fashion 101

Teach us the basics, the must knowns, the do’s and don’ts.

>History

Enlighten us with all your knowledge; be either by wallposting, sperging or with extra materials/resources (ex. links, documentaries, articles, PDFs, etc.)

>Personal/Unpopular Opinions

Do you have a personal fashion related thought or a spicy take? Let us have it.

>Venting

Share all your woes and sorrows about anything and everything fashion related.

>Memeing

Just cause we have triple digit IQs doesn’t mean we can’t unwind and have fun once in a while. So show us your handmade, one of a kind, couture memes.

As always, general rules apply: Keep it civil, be yourself and have fun. Don’t entertain bait, painfully obtuse anons or seething “fashionistas”. And don’t let your head get too big. Posting milk/drama is not encouraged so keep it at a minimum.
This is not an advice thread so refrain from asking what should you wear to your sister cousin second nephew divorced wife graduation wedding party. if you need that kind of help go to >>>/g/326451

No. 1578707

Finally got around to making this thread as some anons wanted to info dump about fashion and I am more than willing to read it.

No. 1578711

Wow, very nice thread! Thank you anon! Sometimes I have a little sperg about fashion in unrelated threads so this is fantastic. You're an angel sent from heaven!

No. 1578713

>>1578711
no problem if you want to repost them here either by text or screenshot please do

No. 1578721

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Posting one of my venti spergs

No. 1578726

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FRUMPCORE

No. 1578727

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Does frumpy generally mean modest? And does modest necessarily mean frumpy?

No. 1578729

>>1578727
I think you can be frumpy without being modest (though I suppose that look would lean more grunge/kinderwhore, which are both the type of frumpy I like). And you most definitely can be modest without being frumpy.

No. 1578730

>>1578726
I bet ten internet currencies that she is irish

No. 1578732

>>1578727
Also I'll add, I don't consider the pictures you linked to be frumpy. If you're >>1578726 this style probably wouldn't have been considered frumpy when it was taken. The short hairstyle and shorter skirt would be considered fairly modern I think.

For the other picture, those girls have fairly groomed hair and tidy faces, their outfits have coordination. If we're measuring frumpy outfits on a scale I wouldn't rate them higher than like 5 or 6.

this thread is fun

No. 1578733

>>1578727
I think the defining feature of frumpiness is a totally obscured figure, so no. There are modest clothes that are still flattering. I don't think kinderwhore (wretch) constitutes as frumpy because it's still meant to be sexually appealing.

>>1578732
>those girls have fairly groomed hair and tidy faces
it's about wearing baggy comfy clothes not literally looking like shit kek

No. 1578737

>>1578733

Kinderwhore was originally made to be the opposite of sexually appealing, but like with a lot of subcultures it got sexualized. Kind of like how sometimes people assume lolita is a weird sex thing when it originated from women who wanted to repel men with big, bright frilly outfits.

No. 1578744

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>>1578737
>akshually muh fashion that literally translates to child whore and is all about dressing like a sexually provocative little girl wasn't meant to be sexual originally
and no it's not comparable to lolita fashion.

No. 1578747

>>1578744
agreed, is so obvious that it IS a sexualized image/choice.

No. 1578755

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>>1578747
noooo nonnie you don't get it, she's totally subverting the male gaze with this. Men HATE it when women wear red lipstick and pout a lot.

No. 1578775

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>>1578755
oh my bad nonny, I forgot males run for the hills in disgust when we wear little silk dresses, a pair of dark see-through pantyhose, heels and a full face of makeup while infantilize our sexuality because they obviously despise it.

No. 1578776

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Unpopular opinion but I don't really care, I love all that grimy grunge 90s thrift store shit.

No. 1578781

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>>1578776
whatever courtney was wearing wasn't any of what you mentioned, grimy sure cause she was always tossing and rolling herself on the ground but grunge is literally picrel.

No. 1578787

>>1578781
You're missing the point of grunge (and there were most certainly dresses like that in 90s thrift sores), but you know this and I will not elaborate

No. 1578790

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>>1578744
>>1578747
Kinderwhore was similar to drag as it took elements from traditional feminine aesthetics, exaggerated them to a caricature level, and thus subverted them to challenge embedded insecurities.

No. 1578796

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>>1578790
I love that you went to wikipedia for this one. Even if what you said holds an ounce of truth is so obviously disingenuous, specially coming from courtney. If she wanted to go for a "baby jane moment" then why add all those sexualized choices? the shortness of the dresses, the pantyhose and the very appealing makeup. Is wanted to look sexy and she did, don't try to justify it via "oh she's challenging female insecurity". How can challenging female insecurity and prejudice from the patriarchal system look like a child prostitute?

No. 1578797

>>1578776
there's nothing wrong with liking it, it's just intellectually dishonest to claim it was 'made to be sexually unappealing'

>>1578781
Courtney is a grunge icon. She was literally filthy.

>>1578790
why did you attach the one supposed example of this style that doesn't incorporate heavy makeup, heels, or any of the aspects that make it kinder 'whore'? To me this is just a girl with fucked up hair wearing a housedress from the 50s. I guess she's going for like, Baby Doll (1956) or something? Also, you're pretentious.

No. 1578802

glad to see the fashion discussion thread is off to a strong start with retarded infighting beginning almost immediately. someone should bring up lolita for you guys to bicker over next.

No. 1578804

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>>1578802
As the creator of the thread I'm having a blast watching the dog fighting while I wait for the wallposts.

No. 1578805

>>1578802
shhh i love it let them go at it. was courtney grimey or not nonnas? how grimey was she?

No. 1578806

>>1578804
Wallposts?

No. 1578808

>>1578806
Yes, some anons wanted to info dump in wallposts about fashion history or curiosities. I'm always thirsty for knowledge.

No. 1578811

>>1578805
from 1 to 10 maybe an 8, she went into the ocean every once in a while so the salty water must have cleaned her a little bit.

No. 1578824

>>1578796
Pretentious

No. 1578828

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I miss John Galliano but like all fashion fags he has the propensity to say the most deranged shit.

No. 1578837

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>>1578828
me too nonny, even his controversial ideas were something to talk about, but always had an eye for fantasy and story telling. Picrel from his 2004 W/A collection, it made quiet a steer.

No. 1578838

I still love this collection. shame the original playlist was taken down, it had Fantastic Plastic Machine - L'Aventure Fantastique as one of the songs which seemed to match the model's runway walk. if anons have more fun collections like this I want to see!

No. 1578876

Thank you nonny for this threads, I needed it so badly.
I believe that scrotes should be banned from being editors in-chief in Vogue and other mainstream fashion publication. You can keep your shit like Dazed or i-D anyway because none of them was solely targeted to women.
>>1578838
I don't get appeal of Jeremy Scott, especially his work for Moschino which I find more tacky than fun, his stuff doesn't really feel subversive. I kinda like his earliest collections where he was early on 80s revival but never got appeal of anything else he does.

No. 1578882

>>1578876
>Dazed or i-D
good lord the absolute butchering they did to those magazines is beyond tragic, I get they're for the freaks and geeks but the fetishistic, hyper-sexual and degenerate shit they've been publishing for the last couple of years is just disgusting.

>Jeremy Scott

kek I agree, did you ever watched this mini doc on youtube when he said he was rejected from fashion school because of a "lack of creativity and originality" and the fag interviewing him gives him the bedroom eyes throughout the whole thing?

No. 1578883

>>1578721
When you put it like that, zoomers just sound like japanese fashionistas lol. here for the vibes and aesthetic, and completely ignorant otherwise

No. 1578895

>>1578882
>absolute butchering they did to those magazines is beyond tragic
I agree so hard nona. Dazed was really fun, I also like their lifestyle content from their early issues. With i-D it feels different for me though and people barely talk about their hypocrisy. i-D outside fashion is basically as it used to be back in early 90s with rabid and really annoying wokeism used only to virtue signal.

>I get they're for the freaks and geeks but the fetishistic, hyper-sexual and degenerate shit they've been publishing for the last couple of years is just disgusting.

Dazed was on this shit already in the 90s and it just got worse, because back then they balanced them with other editorials. 80s and 90s i-D weren't really porn-y at all and I like that but, things started to change later on anyway.

Both Dazed and i-D are on life support for past 20 years, because time of british style bible died ages ago and they coped with becoming shitty pseudo alt-Vogues with most rabid and annoying content on their web versions.

>>1578882
I heard about him being rejected and centering his identity about that, but I didn't see this doc. Thanks nona, will check it out

No. 1578902

I'll never, ever buy clothes that are advertised as vegan. Just say you're cheap fucks and that you're clothes and accessories are just shitty, very polluting plastic. I'd rather invest in coton or wool clothes and a very solid leather handbag.

No. 1578919

Btw op pic,
Isn't it obvious that Wintour style is wine aunt tier godly awful: her choice of prints (ugly) and especially her tacky bulky yard sale core neck accessory (ugly)
Is it a popular option? I don't know

No. 1578927

>>1578902
What an amazing, unique take. Hear hear fashion nonas, gaze upon this 300 iq chad opinion. So unpopular, so different.

No. 1578931

>>1578744
I’ve only ever seen ugly girls obsess over her

No. 1578937

>>1578927
You're being sarcastic right now but my family is always making fun of me for checking materials used to make clothes before buying them like I'm some kind of crazy hippie. I noticed that since I stopped wearing cheap plastic tops I have way less bacne than when I was forced to wear that shit because of poverty years ago so I'll keep doing that.

No. 1578961

>>1578727
i want to dress like this into my 80s tbh

No. 1579003

>>1578737
Lolita literally originates from the child sexual abuse novel of Nabokovs which calls the protagonist lolita. It's taking colors and looks from very obviously childish aesthetics, no matter how hard you cope, your nasty cheap looking dresses are named after a piece of media that's revolving around pedophilia.

No. 1579017

>>1579003
Not going to defend the name, but
>It's taking colors and looks from very obviously childish aesthetics
This is really only the case for a certain type of sweet lolita. You can dislike the style all you want but most of it doesn't look childish at all, or fetishy for that matter.

No. 1579018

>>1579003
you have no idea how much people have tried to change the name of it. it's annoying japanese don't care about the origin of the name (and honestly, lolicon is so normalized there they see absolutely no issue with it) but western lolitas definitely hate the connotation of the fashion's name. when I wore lolita I said it was a style inspired in rococo and alice in wonderland to unaware strangers, because I didn't want to be questioned about the questionable title of it.

No. 1579020

>>1579003
Why is this thread full of retards who know nothing about fashion, kek?

No. 1579027

>>1579003
You are an idiot and know literally nothing about fashion or history.

No. 1579028

>>1579003
Not even 24 hours in and there's already Lolita fights
>>1578804
Avatarfagging as Anna Wintour is kinda cringe and I'm glad another anon says her style sucks.

No. 1579038

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But what do we think bout the fall 2020 ready-to-wear versace high-heeled platform rain boot?

No. 1579040

>>1579027
>>1579020
Well this is the perfect thread to sperg at length about the history of "xyz" so nonnies can learn about it. just saying.

No. 1579042

>>1579038
Looks like wearable torture

No. 1579050

>>1579003
Lolita fashion didn't come from the book. You're looking for nymphette. And for some reason this thread is glitchy for me so I can't reply to the original anon who brought up Courtney Love for the kinderwhore aesthetic, so I'll just say it here. She didn't invent the style, she stole it and hoe'd it up.

No. 1579051

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>>1579038
guys guys wouldn't it be cool if we also, like, make sneakers, but, like, with heels
like, it's shoes for sport, but you know, for gurlz
crazy, I know…

No. 1579053

>>1579038
Not sure why anyone would want a healed rainbow tbqfh.

No. 1579056

>>1578802
I would actually be very happy to sperg over lolita since cgl is on its deathbed, but it's not fitting for this thread

No. 1579057

>>1579056
is fashion go ahead. I made the thread but I can't publicly say it because I'll be reported for avatarfagging

No. 1579059

>>1579051
I kinda miss the sneaker heel. At the beginning I did hate them but now I realise they're iconicly bad/good depending on how you see it.

No. 1579061

>>1579050
Lolita is the nickname of the raped child in that book, that book is the first time lolita was ever used as a word, loli also originates from that book.
Either way, both styles are usually worn by overweight autistic women or trannies, no normal person hyperfixates on them. Trannies especially love lolita.
Also kinder means child in german so the style literally means childwhore, it was always pedpphilic in nature and it's suspicious of you to defend the two styles that take name from pedophilia.

No. 1579063

>>1579056
There's a lolita thread somewhere in /g/ you could use

No. 1579077

>>1579061
Lolita as a fashion precedes that "gothic loli"(little sexualized bugeyed girl in frilly dress) image in manga/anime. Lolita isn't influenced by lolicon, it's the other way around.

>>1579057
I appreciate it, but the thread would be overwhelmed with jfashion sperging too fast, as it already kind of started kek. I'd rather enjoy nonnies discussing more high fashion designers and brands.

>>1579063
I know and already post in it, but it's kinda dead. Maybe we could move it to /ot/ instead?

No. 1579081

>>1579063
>>1579077
If you believe it will monopolise the thread making a "lolita fashion discussion thread" in /ot/ would make sense and if anyone wants to sperg about it here we can redirection them to said thread.

No. 1579086

>>1578902
Agree but not on the "cheap fucks" part. One time I almost bough a Stella McCartney purse but then I saw it was "faux" leather even tho the shit was aorund 1k euros. FUCK that. what kind of idiot spends 1k euros in a faux leather purse?!

No. 1579088

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Can this thread not include lolita shit PLEASE? You guys need to go back to /cgl?

Anyways So I was a big fan of the real housewives of NY and was curious when they said they were going to have a complete new cast some months ago. One of the newbies is Jenna Lyons who I had no idea who she was. Seems like she was the boss of J.Crew? I zeroed on her because every single time I've seen a pic of her related to the RHONY she's dressed like utter shit, ridiculously try-hard and with a terrible fit (pic attached, she's the second from the left). She is cute but girl, dress your age please and ditch those glasses that make you look like you're 80.

No. 1579117

>>1579077
The term lolita comes from the book, retard. The book was written way before this fashion style and female autists who were probably into wanting to be seen as child dolls took a term that's used in a book that revolves around the pains of a groomed child. You can't change that fact no matter how much you lie. You're romanticizing a fashion style that's named after a raped and murdered child.
I don't understand why you autists defend this term so much when it's obvious where it originates from.

No. 1579118

>>1579086
Yeah it's ridiculously expensive, I meant to say that it looks cheap, especially when they pose outdoors.

No. 1579147

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>>1579126
Nayrt but guys, seriously… you have your own thread >>>/m/208345 . Please go there for all of your discussion and nitpicking. I have absolutely not interest in lolita and I'm sure other anons feel the same. Let's be cool for once and have our own spaces without coming into threads just to pick fights. Lolitas, y'all are cool, I'm respectfully admire you from afar, you are dedicated AF, but I don't wanna talk about your fashion here.

No. 1579148

I wish we had more practical hats. I need sun protection that doesn't get fucked up by the slightest breeze or make me look like I fell out of a beach. baseball caps are so trashy.
>>1579038
high heels are torture devices and mutilate your feet. stop ruining your body to cater to the male gaze.
all women's shoes are designed to have cramped toeboxes that jam your toes out of alignment just so your feet can be more "feminine" which results in pain when walking and permanent deformity. men should be killed for this bullshit. no man's shoe has ever been designed to intentionally cause foot pain just to be more fashionable.

No. 1579151

Well, anyway, I just wanted to express how happy I was all the years y2k, or however you spell it, was gone. At least, now as an adult, I have options of clothes outside of 2000's trends, but low waist skinny jeans still make my stomach churn.

No. 1579152

>>1579147
anon I think you posted the wrong link, here's the lolita thread >>>/g/208345

No. 1579154

>>1579152
Oh, my bad. Thank you, nonnie!

No. 1579158

>>1579154
no problem ♥

No. 1579161

>>1579151
Low waist skinny jeans looked very flattering on my thin hourglass figure.
What I hated was the capris trend. The 3/4 pants don't suit anyone. There is not a single body type that doesn't look worse wearing it.

No. 1579163

>>1579151
as a fan of the bumster I always wondered why it is so polarising. I like it because is so much comfortable for my body type but I can see why some may dislike it.

No. 1579181

>>1579117
kek, accusing others of lying while you completely talk out of your ass based on assumptions. There's also designer statements from back then regarding the use of the name, but I won't bother to dig them out since you're just angry baiting anyway.

>>1579081
>>1579088
>>1579147
Yeah alright, I agree!

No. 1579210

>>1579148
Men used to wear high heels and leggings and wigs. It was for fashion and I doubt it was very comfortable. Not to cape for men but it’s a historical fact.

No. 1579213

>>1579086
I was calling them companies cheap because the materials used are cheap yet they pretend it's high quality, expensive shit with their prices. I sometimes check high fashion brands online and see plastic shit for similar prices, I never buy any luxury brand anywhay and I still feel scammed just from seeing the price tags next to the list of materials.

No. 1579238

>>1579161
Ayrt, low waist is flattering for my body type, but I still hate low waist jeans, skirts are fine, and skinny jeans are horribly uncomfortable for more muscular legs.

No. 1579273

>>1579210
I say we go back to those times and force men to wear terribly uncomfortable fashion for the sole sake of making them more attractive to the female gaze

No. 1579279

>>1579273
you can't even get modern moids to brush their teeth or wash their butthole

No. 1579280

>>1579040
Anon can fucking google it. But fine, lolita is a subculture inspired by roccoco fashion and started in Japan sometime in the late 70s or early 80s. It was a response to sexism and sexualization of women in Japan. It celebrated the cute and feminine with modest clothing that had zero sex appeal. It was only later sexualized after it became more mainstream.

No. 1579283

>>1579280
Nta, I have a stupid question. Does the book title (you know which one) have any connection to the subculture? I've wondered this for years but never googled it beca7use I prefer to k7eep m7y conscience clear of that book.

No. 1579284

>>1579283
Samefag, ignore the fact that it looks like I have a typing quirk. A wire was laying on my 7 key.

No. 1579285

>>1579280
The origins of the name are cloudy yes, but absolutely nothing indicates it has direct ties to the nabokov novel. It has as much meaning and significance as the christian imagery in NGE - which is to say none at all. Someone probably thought it sounded cool.

No. 1579287

>>1579283
I just want to state, nobby is the worst author who has ever existed. all his books are him blowing a fart at the reader then acting like he's the smartest guy who ever lived. anyone who likes nobokov is a pseud.

No. 1579292

>>1579283
I have read that it's not directly related to the novel and it's more of a case of adopting a certain term as a name because the general population already used the term in some way. So AFAIK nobody read Lolita and thought "hmmm this is the perfect name for my non-sexualized alternative fashion trend", but rather "lolita" was a term that was already being used to refer to something about underage girls but the meaning was murky. Don't quote me on this, though.

No. 1579320

>>1579292
Nta but I remember a read once that some random person that wanted to make fashion said that the name just sounded nice because rococo sounded nice with rorita?? I just know someone posted a link with the history of the name of lolita fashion and it was in some random ass blog.
My issue is that “lolicon” does come from the Nakobok book, and the term is from 1955, like the book. But Lolita is supposedly from the end of 1970, so like, it isn’t close to the lolicon stuff, nakobok’s book was surely not relevant in Japan when it was close to the 80’s.
My hypothesis is that the fashion was created and people thought that calling it rococo wasn’t edgy enough, so they took the idea that you’re supposedly dressing like a child from the rococo era and turned it into “Lolita” it’s not lolicon, because there’s no “complex”, it’s just probably a way to clean up the name Lolita, or a way to say that you’re dressing like a kid.
I don’t know, I’m just trying to comprehend what was the thought process of the people that tried to give a name to Lolita fashion.

No. 1579322

>>1579161
the only people who willingly wear capris are older women. i think they like them because they're cooler in summer but still hide their varicose veins. for functionality i get it but they will never be fashionable in any sense.

>>1579147
>>1579280
>>1579292
i was just joking about bringing up lolita for you to fight over. please please don't let this thread become ita sperging. it's disconnected from pretty much every other form of fashion and outside of the lolita bubble no one cares. it's just boring to read about and it will take over the thread, i can already see it.

No. 1579343

>>1579322
let them get it out of their system, It'll die down after a while. Then we can go back to sperging about courtney love.

No. 1579347

>>1579343
OK controversial opinion time: coquette/nymphette is more fun and flexible than kinderwhore. I say this as someone who does not and will not wear either. But both are sorta trash in what they stand for.

No. 1579360

>>1579347
does coquette/nymphette even has legs to stand on? it looks like a random made up aesthetic thing rather than a subculture. Yet again kinderwhore wouldn't be really considered a subculture like grunge is.

No. 1579438

>>1579360
agree, most new styles are just aesthetics with no ties to the real world and it makes me a bit sad. i would argue kinderwhore is just a subsection of grunge though, which at least has (had?) a scene. >>1579347 curious, why do you think coquette is more flexible than kinderwhore? i feel like in practice they're pretty much the same thing. i feel like coquette would be more restrained actually, since it looks a lot "cleaner" than kinderwhore, so less room for just fucking around and having fun.

No. 1579444

>>1579061
>that book is the first time lolita was ever used as a word
This isn't even true, and also has nothing to do with the fashion. Only trannies bait this poorly over whatever women like kek, an actual woman could come up with something better. Men are like functionally incapable of researching female hobbies, so this is how things always end up, it's boring.

No. 1579448

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i've been thinking about why i love 60s hippie and neohippie fashion so much but hate "boho chic" and i think it has a lot to do with the former being connected to real-world cultures and the later being connected to nothing. in the 60s hippies were a real subculture and people who dress in neohippie style today often have a cohesive lifestyle and set of beliefs that set them apart from the mainstream. in contrast, boho style was made up by influencers in the 2010s. it's not that you need to make everything about yourself conform to some set style–actually, i think that's pretty stupid–but fashion with nothing behind it just feels hollow to me. also, boho chic as a style removes so much of what i love about hippie and neohippie fasion. dressing like a hippie should be fun and bright and colourful! you should be able to wear clothes that look weird and aren't sexy and maybe don't even really match, because the point is that you're rejecting mainstream notions of beauty. boho chic takes superficial elements of hippie fashion, like crochet and fringe, and removes anything actually unique. it's like looking at a pug compared to a wolf. just ugly and wrong.

No. 1579458

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I've loved reading this thread, one of our best new threads in a minute. I so badly wish I had something interesting to contribute, but instead I offer this gorgeous picture.
This is '98 spring Christian Dior. The collection this comes from was heavily inspired by Marchesa Luisa Casati, a 20th century Italian aristocrat who has known for her unique and eccentric fashion. Here's a link to the collection
https://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/spring-1998-couture/christian-dior
and a link to an article about Marchesa Luisa Casati for those interested.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/09/22/the-divine-marquise

https://www.vogue.com/article/marchesa-luisa-casati-beauty-smoky-eye-makeup-curls

No. 1579460

>>1579444
Lolitafags go continue sperging in /g/ in your containment thread.
>>1579438
Nta but coquette pieces are more wearable than kinder whore ones, it's also less controversial and the name alone doesn't ring alarm bells so a lot of teen girls embrace the coquette style in online places.

No. 1579462

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>>1579458
Samefag, another pic because I think this collection is just so beautiful. I promise I won't spam though!

No. 1579465

>>1579462
Very beautiful runway collection anon, you can definitely send a few more, I'm sure others would love to see them as well

No. 1579466

>>1579458
>>1579462
finally yes please share everything!

No. 1579468

>>1579460
Not even a Lolita, just laughing at tardposts. Don't reply if it's so upsetting for you.

No. 1579470

>>1579448
I actually had zero idea of what boho-chic really is/was? It always came off as "mimosa girl in the desert". Maybe boho-chich is the orignal proto aesthetic aka fashion/look without any connection/background.

No. 1579472

Thoughts on Tom Ford quitting?

No. 1579477

>>1579472
my oh my now this is something I wanna heard from all you nonnies. Personally I feel quietly indifferent, yes he wasn't doing anything awful but he also wasn't moving any boundaries in any way. Just getting by making inoffensive, nice clothing.

No. 1579478

>>1579472
does that mean we don't have to see his ugly book in staging photos anymore

No. 1579481

>>1579477
ayrt, and same mostly. Mild disappointment but then again he hasn't been doing anything exciting for a long time. I loved Nocturnal Animals though, so I hope we'll see more of him working in film now.

No. 1579484

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Btw, I feel like it's very on brand for Lolcow for the first discussion/debate in this thread to be about Lolita kek.
>>1579465
>>1579466
Ok, here's more! And also more about Luisa Casati so you won't have to read the articles.
>In John Richardson’s biography of Picasso, he produces an anecdote about one of Casati’s infamous dinner parties, at which she drugged a snake and painted it gold, and wore it as a necklace. Sometimes she appeared with a makeshift necklace out of bites from her lover. In Venice, she would often take her ocelots and borzois on walks outside her palazzo wearing nothing but a fur coat, pearls, and a face full of makeup.
>She was six feet tall and accentuated her height with extravagant headpieces. Accounts say she took doses of belladonna, a poisonous plant, to dilate her pupils and make them darker. She didn’t stop there: She topped her unnaturally obscure eyes with rows and rows of fake eyelashes—sometimes fashioning them out of strips of fabric—and powdered her skin porcelain. She painted her face in stark black and white, like a photograph of the period.
>Among her more memorable get-ups was a suit of armor pierced with hundreds of electric arrows that short-circuited and nearly fried her; an iridescent necklace of live snakes that slithered from her bare shoulders at a ball; and a headdress of peacock tail feathers accessorized, for a night at the opera, by the blood of a freshly slaughtered chicken.
>She commissioned a life-size wax mannequin of herself, with eyes of green glass and a wig purportedly made from her own hair; it sat at her dinner table dressed as her twin, and she brought it to Paris for fittings at Poiret. An emissary from Schiaparelli sent to solicit her business found her in bed in her hotel suite “covered with a rug of black ostrich feathers, eating a breakfast of fried fish and drinking straight Pernod while trying on a newspaper scarf.” To a performance of the Ballets Russes, she wore a gown of egret plumes that molted in the course of the evening. For a summer of drug abuse and sorcery on Capri, in 1920, she packed a wardrobe of black dresses with cathedral trains, dyed her hair green, painted the body of her servant gold (he collapsed in the heat and was saved from suffocation by her landlord, who scraped off the gilding), and paraded through the village streets carrying a crystal ball.

An interesting woman indeed.

No. 1579485

I have a hard time taking this thread seriously because when I think "lolcow user fashion sense" I think of that fucking purple frock tranny

No. 1579487

>>1579485
share the purple frock tranny

No. 1579489

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>>1579484
And more. I see this first picture so often.

No. 1579491

>>1579484
Lmao that poor snake, she's like an Angela Carter character.

No. 1579493

>>1579487
I hope I link this right, >>>/snow/1730576 is the original post. Someone who knew purple frock anon irl later revealed that he is a tranny prostitute with a drug addiction

No. 1579494

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>>1579484
>that whole greentext
good lord she is beyond iconic there's no way she was real kek. I love she carried snakes, ocelots and borzois around, what a queen.

No. 1579500

>>1579484
you pushed me to do a little digging on her and I'm just hopelessly infatuated by her anon.

>Unsurprisingly, artists of every medium flocked to her side, and her generous patronage and limitless provision of subject matter made her one of the most artistically represented women in history. Painters, sculptors, dancers, authors, composers, directors, photographers, actors, poets and clothing designers were—and continue to be—inspired by her. The Futurist, Surrealist and Dadaist artistic movements owe much of their existence to Casati’s influence; she was the inspiration for Cartier’s trademark panther jewelry; Venice’s Palazzo de Leoni, now the Peggy Guggenheim Museum, was her former residence.

No. 1579503

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>>1579470
"mimosa girl in the desert" lol, that's a good way of putting it. i don't know if it was the first fashion without any connection but it definitely became popular right as social media, especially fashion blogging, was taking off. a lot of quintessential "2010 fashion blogger" stuff is boho chic, like big chunky stone jewellery, big useless belts, those big ass hats, aztec print everything, gladiator sandals… i think a lot of what makes it so ugly to me is the fact that it's designed to look whimsical and carefree while being extremely tailored and expensive. something about it is so mormon. like "conservative sister wife goes to woodstock."

No. 1579516

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>>1579494
I do think some of the stuff said about her may have been embellished for entertainment purposes, but how fun is it to think that a woman like that really existed! John Galliano was the perfect person to do a collection on a figure like her I honestly think he or Mugler would've been more worthy of being this year's Met Gala theme instead of Karl. Vivienne too but I feel like they would've butchered her style

No. 1579519

>>1579503
>conservative sister wife goes to woodstock
kek anon I love that one. Now that you mention the extreme tailoring and polishing of it I see why it evokes that sentiment. Is pretty much faking a sense of freedom and carefree-ness as you said. I wonder how many more styles out there have this same mentality. Also tell us more about your hippy wardrove pls.

No. 1579525

>>1579516
I agree, galliano did an outstanding job. I also wonder why they chose karl!! I will die mad.

No. 1579579

>>1579448
It’s because boho chic clothes are trash. The cloth and stitching and structure is cheap. Might also be what you said about culture, sure.

No. 1579586

>>1579117
>lolita
>murdered
whut

No. 1579604

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>>1579579
obviously depends where you get it, but i agree. genuine hippie fashion is handmade and from a small business, boho shit is often mass produced.

>>1579519
i'm trying to build a wardrobe that's more hippie without falling into the trap of "everything i own must be this specific style" if that makes sense, but the good thing about hippie fashion is you can really add in anything and as long as you style it right it will look like it fits the aesthetic. rn i wear a lot of maxi skirts and dresses, birkenstocks and clog sandals or just go barefoot (sorry), bell bottoms or baggy jeans. tie dye, oversized band shirts. i just bought some baggy patchwork pants that i'm very excited about and a yellow reversible halter top that ties in the back that's made from a recycled sari. i'd like some headbands, maybe something like this from the little bazaar store. i crochet so i'm making a patchwork cardigan and as soon as i finish that i'm going to make some crochet bralettes and maybe some granny square bags. lol i've been eyeing them but i cant bring myself to buy crochet things i know i could make myself.

No. 1579680

>>1579604
>genuine hippie fashion is handmade and from a small business
I’m having a negative emotional reaction to this sentence lol. No offense honestly, hippie fashion is from a certain time in the past in my mind so it cannot be made now by my definition. It doesn’t exist except in mom’s closet or a vintage clothing store. but I do genuinely wonder how do you define it?

No. 1579715

>>1579680
why not just google it lol. it's a very common subculture. like i said neohippie still exists and is pretty widespread. i've met multiple people who live and dress "hippie" 24/7, this is just a weird comment.

No. 1579736

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I've bitched about this before but I absolutely hate the Cinderella ballgown from the live action movie. I see women all the time talk about how gorgeous of a dress it is and how its "every little girls dream gown". Its hideous. The only thing I can give it credit for is how it color shifts when it moves. I understand what the designer was going for and I appreciate that she went for a very animated look with it, describing it like watercolor in motion, but its incredibly tacky. If I was going to pick a childs movie ballgown it would be Sara's gown from the movie labyrinth.

No. 1579740

>>1579736
every single live action cinderella movie has the most boring ballgown for cinderella. it's such a shame. i loved the dress in Ella Enchanted but it hardly screamed Cinderella.

No. 1579750

>>1578902
clothes are advertised as vegan for people who don't want to use animal products, it's not supposed to be a fashion statement. plus they often try to develop new technologies, and the vast majority of non-vegan clothes (or at least not advertised as such) are also cheap and polluting, it's not like the average person dresses exclusively in leather and wool.

No. 1580137

>>1579736
It's ugly and boring.

No. 1580262

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tag yourself nonnies. I'm %100 a normie with big opinions
did a revamp of this graph I made last year, hope you like it

No. 1580267

>>1580262
I’m somewhere between normie and put together. Depends on the weather tbh.

No. 1580268

>>1580262
I'm fashion victim and proud

No. 1580270

>>1580262
I'm a normie trying to work towards an all pink Put together.

No. 1580279

>>1580262
Inching closer and closer to the put together. But with some edge™.

No. 1580306

>>1580262
I'm between the normie and the vicim. I will NEVER be the put together one lmao.

No. 1580334


No. 1580344

>>1578727
y2k comfycore

No. 1580369

>>1579715
I was under the impression it was a dead subculture and hadn’t really existed since the 1970s. I’m trying to figure out if you’re copying the fashions of a 60/70s hippie or if being a hippie is a thing again. I kinda thought we called that life style “new age” or something now and hippie was strictly a historical term.

No. 1580395

>>1578721
What thread was this in nona?

No. 1580434

>>1580395
right here nonners >>>/ot/1542445
that thread has also other fashion spergings that are very fun to read

No. 1580479

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Should men go back to wearing one-pieces?

No. 1580498

where do you anons like to read about fashion/find fashion images? i don't want to pay vogue $12

No. 1580501

>>1580479
why are they all showing titty
also yeah

No. 1580518

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>>1580479
We all know the answer is yes.
>>1580501
The one strap leotard was a fairly common look for circus strong man performers, so maybe it's in reference to that.

No. 1580524

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>>1580498
I look for forums or groups that post scans of magazines. Bellazon is one. Lots of guys cataloging specific models they like but also there are threads for specific fashion magazines and a lot of the scans are HQ. It’s not a fashion website in my opinion but some of the users are actually contributing scans and not just jerking off to “models in sweaters” jpegs. I made an account to look at the scans since some of it is for members only, it’s pretty easy. it’s an old forum so some of the images are gone and it’s basically dead but there’s still stuff on there

No. 1580537

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>>1579470
Nice simple example of boho chic on the right here. this romantic darker version is basically what I always pictured. I have a friend who dresses like this and she always looks nice so I don’t have a problem with it. Free People hippie-dippie style boho is ugly to me though

No. 1580625

what nonnies think about "high fashion twitter" crowd?

No. 1580680

>>1579117
>murdered
Sperging about a book you've never read, are we?

No. 1580736

Amazing how this thread got derailed within the first 5 posts. And it's full of normies with no knowledge on the topic.

No. 1580737

>>1580680
NTA but I just read a book on the real life case that the book Lolita was based on and the real life girl who went missing was eventually returned but ended up dying a couple years later from illness. So that anon is doubly wrong, imo.

No. 1580752

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>>1580736
amazing how your post contributed literally nothing

No. 1580805

>>1580752
And yours does?

No. 1580897

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>>1580501
>>1580518
They're freeing the nipple cause it used to be illegal.

No. 1581136

>>1580897
This is where American society started going wrong. Men should not be comfortable.

No. 1581142

>>1581136
Europe as well. Bring back male swimsuits!

No. 1581143

>>1580897
>bare boy
lmao

No. 1581145

>>1580897
Only two of these men should be allowed shirtless
>>1581143
I'm sorry to break it to you but it says bare body

No. 1581149

>>1580262
Normie victim. The innocent bystander waiting to get assaulted by a pair of jeans.

No. 1581159

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Thoughts on the Mugler x H&M collab? I'm so sick of these bodysuits. It's old and tired. In general, Mugler has no glamour and creativity anymore. Thierry Mugler should've never sold it.

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No. 1581161

>>1581159
It's dog shit quality in person on top of being fugly. Like all H&M items, the collection will be on their $2.00 clearance racks.

No. 1581174

>>1581159
the jackets aren't horrible in photos. I don't like the rest of it at all. it screams cheap imitation.

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>>1581145
None of them should be allowed to be shirtless, because women are not allowed to be shirtless. We need to bring back the the genderless modesty suits. Actually make men wear the modesty suits and let women wear whatever they want, including those dope bathing costumes with the pantaloons.

No. 1581178

>>1581159
why are they using a giant "M" instead of the star???

No. 1581180

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>>1580625
is filled with very vapid people, they always post tweets with captions like picrel which adds nothing or promotes any kind of meaning full conversation. Is pretty much filled with wannabes, fags and spammers.

No. 1581184

>>1581177
How about men are banned from the beach period.

No. 1581186

>>1581159
>>1581160
kek this looks like a kardashian collab

No. 1581187

>>1581184
best course of action

No. 1581194

>>1579088
When Jenna Lyons was shopping around her Stylish with Jenna Lyons tv show, I was part of an audience test group for it. I was beyond shocked the show got picked up and even more shocked that now Andy has casted her. She is an incredibly anal and pretentious bitch that speaks like a nervous beaver.

No. 1581215

>>1580479
They should disappear from my view.

No. 1581228

>>1581213
better catch up quick because I wanna bring up the diet-prada fiasco kek

No. 1581307

The posts about kinderwhore and whatnot reminded me of something I've been something about for a while: the way women are presented to be childlike in fashion. There's this Kant quote that I think about a lot; he talks about Adam and Eve, and how their fall constituted a change, but also a loss - because every change entails a loss. Loss is inherent to the very nature of change. In media and culture, leaving girlhood behind for womanhood is presented as this Edenic fall: debased to a corporeal, disgusting, fleshy form - leaving the ethereality and nether knowledge of girlhood. Falling into shitting, bleeding, splitting open in childbirth. It is one of fashion industry's amusing traits that so much of the fashioning of its appeal is built on idealizing a liminal time frame of girlhood and female youth – of something that is already marked by its own loss and death. You would that maybe this is the cultural expression of the fact that there is no mainstream meaningful avenue through which women could articulate adulthood and grow up - you often hear the answer is to become to a mother. Does anybody remember the part of Peter Pan, when the little annoying twink shit in his little twink outfit goes back to Wendy, sees her as an adult woman, and is so disappointed? And how she folds in over herself, like she's trying to hide her body now she's no longer a little girl? And he takes her daughter instead, like she lost something so essential? I remember reading Baudrilliad (I'm sorry for bringing up a French person - I'm misspelling his name out of respect) and he said something that stuck with me: that fashion and nonreproductive sexuality go together because they both signify a sort of "futility". Reproductive sexuality, and the maternal body accompanying it, has no place in fashion.
I think that's why mindless identification with fads like kinderwhore should always be questioned. appeal? They employ these visual tropes of girlishness and whatnot, and that is part of its visual appeal, but its that very appeal that carries the trappings of femininity. Vidrel where the guy talks about Kate Moss and how she's captivating because she's a "child-woman", and it just reminded me of how much of fashion is based in this. Kinderwhore, Lolita, romantic Victorian frills, big skirts and Peter Pan collars - the new season is in, Wendy's daughter becomes a woman and gives birth to a girl and the little shit twink in his goblin outfit shrieks at her like a bad Chinese toy because she's no longer a little girl, Humbert shrieks at Dolores' "ruined" pregnant body, with her roped "goose-flesh white arms" and her "unkempt armpits" and there's always a new dress to buy. It's so ironic that Nabokov's Lolita is such a big trope in fashion considering it's about a pedophile dehumanizing a little girl and stealing her childhood through fashioning her and deconstructing her through clothes and romantic imagery.

No. 1581313

>>1581307
Calling peter pan a twink is an insult to twinks, he's a fuckboy (and the visual representation of a pedo if you consider the implications of his incel-like disgust at adulthood)

Some interesting points in your post though, fashion is definitely about an androgynous sexuality imo. I think the very feminine fashion is less rooted in an attempt to retain girlhood, and more in an attempt at self expression which entirely excludes the enemy (men)
It gets co opted by kinksters but feminine fashion itself is simply an escape from masculinity.

No. 1581319

>>1581186
My thoughts exactly. It just looks so boring, like something out of 2016.

No. 1581340

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Who has the best sketches? I always chuckle at old Mugler sketches because they all look like a man in drag and it’s a mystery to me how he translated that to well-fitted women’s clothing (eventually his sketches got more feminine, in the late 80s or 90s I think). But I do love that one jacket with the huge shoulders and tiny waist he made so I can’t be mad at the man-shoulders in his sketches. Whatever works.

No. 1581349

>>1581307
This is why nobody likes you freaks

No. 1581358

>>1581307
>Reproductive sexuality and the maternal body accompanying it, has no place in fashion.
I have really limited knowledge of fashion so I could be talking out of my ass, but from what I know a lot of fashion (at least high-end) has historically catered toward older women (and by older, I mean women of reproductive age like 20s and 30s, not actual old women). If you look at fashion models from the 40s and 50s, a lot of them are mid-twenties or even older. Famous designers like Thierry Mugler and Vivienne Westwood often used older women as runways models.

That being said, I don't disagree with everything you said. It's definitely true that misogyny has placed undue emphasis on female youth in general culture and that has a lot of harmful effects (but I'd say this is more present in media like movies and books as opposed to fashion). Also Kinderwhore and Lolita are both fashion subcultures and don't represent fashion trends as a whole. As for Victorian-style clothing or big skirts- I don't see how that is inherently associated with girlhood? Grown women existed in the Victorian era too… In fact, a lot of Vivienne Westwood's designs took inspiration from the Victorian era but most of her clothing seems intended to be for grown women (again, meaning 20s and 30s) rather than teenagers or young girls.

No. 1581360

>>1581307
we need milfcore

No. 1581370

>>1581358
>>1581307
>>1581313
this is what I've been waiting for fucking keep it coming

No. 1581373

>>1581340
personally I REALLY hate fashion sketches, from any designer, because they're just plain ugly kek

No. 1581381

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The YSL sketches are fun the way he crammed them all together on a page and has a fabric swatch too

No. 1581392

Don’t really have it in me to write a whole essay about it but I think it’s clear a lot of designers take inspiration from Erté’s costume designs and the shows they were made for. He’s sort of a fashion world icon so I can’t blame them but sometimes I’ll watch a big runway show and it feels like an homage or a throwback or gives me deja vu. seems to be a dying art form these days, but when the big designers of the 80s and 90s and even early 2000s did their big shows I’m sure they were all influenced by Erte to some degree.

No. 1581393

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I like Erte’s illustrations too, I’m looking to buy some art books

No. 1581394

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Some of the actual clothes were as crazy as his drawings

No. 1581398

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Hard to find images of real life Erte costumes paired with the illustration, a lot of the photos from back then aren’t the best quality I guess which is really too bad because I’d love to see a whole collection of his designs with photos of the finished products. Some of them are so elaborate they must have been extremely time consuming and expensive to make

No. 1581399

>>1581313
Escaping masculinity in the way you dress does not mean escaping men and beauty standards and what you've been taught since forever though. It's hard to say for sure that the observation made by the other anon does not apply to X style, especially if that style does rely on looking girly or childlike, because that ideal (child-woman) is everywhere, women often internalize or struggle with it.

No. 1581401

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Does anyone know if when John Galliano/Dior did that 1998 ss show was it an homage to Erte or an homage to Marchesa Luisa Casati or both? I’ve heard it both ways and the clothes could tell either story (although personally I see more Erte but I don’t know a lot about Marchesa except she seems like she was very cool)

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>>1581401
(Samefag) like that one could be an homage to Marchesa for sure but this one has to be an Erte homage if it’s an homage to anything. I just wonder if Gaillano said one way or the other if it was about one or both or the time period in general etc

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>>1581381
Because this is vaguely a weeb site I hope it’s not too off topic to say I’m 99% sure Naoko Takeuchi was copying that YSL sketch style when she drew this as she is notorious for borrowing fashion layouts and sometimes entire costume designs. I feel like I notice a new thing every year where I’m like “oh my god that’s where she got that idea from”. It’s fun she likes fashion so much but it does make me question her overall originality just a tiny bit. I used to have a folder of comparison pictures with all her obvious stolen designs and some more subtle but still obvious inspiration sources lol

No. 1581412

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Dropping this here so no one thinks I’m just tinfoiling about the sailor moon author and her borrowed fashion designs. Sorry this is only mildly fashion adjacent but but she really did do it a lot

No. 1581415

>>1581405
>>1581412
It's well known that Hirohiko Araki stole/got "inspired" designs and poses from fashion illustrators and magazine photos. The author of Haru wo Daiteita also got into some trouble for copying a pose from a male fashion ad. I believe it 100%.

No. 1581425

>>1581381
is putting fabric in fashion sketches a real thing? i did that with my "fashion designs" as a kid and grew up to think it was retarded.

No. 1581427

I wish mainstream fashion was more organically feminine, elegant, and/or relied on sustainable materials like cotton and silk like vid related (Zac's works were also made in the states in his studio for as long as he was financially able). I'm so over the blocky, cheap "aesthetics" of this beige Kim K, "e-goth," and "Y2K" era. I can't explain how bad everyone looks to me. Every store in the mall is exactly the same. Nothing pulls me in. No personality. This slodge extends to modern literature at Barnes and Noble and recently made movies/TV. Everything is watered down for the lowest common denominator.

No. 1581428

>>1581427
Basically can’t even buy denim without at least 3% elastane in it nowadays, it’s fucked up

No. 1581429

>>1581340
I can't help but look at these and think Pete Steele, especially that last one.
>>1581412
Has she ever gotten in trouble for this? Her character is literally a stolen design, not inspired in the slightest, and she made money from it as if it was her own organic creation.

No. 1581430

>>1581425
It doesn’t seem that strange to me but I don’t hang out with fashion designers so I have no idea if it’s a thing. Apparently it’s 100% a thing if you’re Yves Saint Laurent.

No. 1581432

>>1581429
No I think she’s beyond being cancelled for it at this point lol. That villain is the only 100% lifted character design that I know of and everything else is more like a one-off illustration of a character in a designer piece or in a Kate Moss pose for an art book or promo thing. There are some character outfits that are definitely “inspired” by designer clothes but not a 1:1 replication. As far as I know she’s a very savvy business woman, I bet she has a defense for this to keep her out of trouble. I think she makes most of her money from toys and licensing deals which feature her own designs. She’s such a huge fashion fanatic that I think she’s mostly forgiven for showing that in her work.

No. 1581486

>>1581429
Nobody gave a fuck because it's Japan, brands just didn't know about that because in the 90s you didn't have easily available scans online released at the same time as the official releases. Now she's filthy rich and doesn't give a fuck, and I'm sure brands don't give a fuck either. Same reason why in the US JJBA got released very late compared to Asia and Europe and why many of the characters' official names needed to be changed, while in Italy and France nobody gave a fuck about references to rock bands and high fashion brands. I read Hana Yori Dango like 2 years ago and was laughing so hard whenever the characters would talk about expensive brands and would wear that shit as if that were normal while a bunch of other manga parody brands all the time like Wcdonalds or whatever they come up with. Same shit with Vivienne Westwood being worn by Nana's characters all the time and being name dropped all the time as well.

No. 1581495

>>1581427
You’ve reminded me of something. This is very fashion history related but my god I fucking hate this trend of womenswear adopting men’s cuts. You’ve seen it. I know you’ve seen the classic men’s blocky cut in stores. And there’s no fucking alternative. You accept the twinkfication or you walk away. Maybe it makes you look like a lego? Or you have broad torso and short legs so it makes you look like mentally ill? No, accept it. Maybe you have big breasts and the way these jackets sit on them is just plain unflattering and draws unwanted attention? No, just wear it. Ugly material, ugly, cut that makes me seethe in public, and doesn’t look that goos on everyone. Don’t get me started on viscose. Disgusting fabric.

No. 1581512

>>1581495
I fucking hate viscose

No. 1581535

Nonnas, since i-D and Dazed are kind of shit, are there any good fashion magazines (or even Instagram pages, really) that dig up interesting/fashion-forward stuff? I know FRUiTs is making a comeback, but only time will tell if that turns out good.

No. 1581554

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Unpopular Opinion: I think magic stretching popcorn/bubble shirts and dresses are cool as hell. awful in the heat from what I experienced, like wearing a plastic bag, no moisture wicking qualities, but they are so fun! Really easy to move around it, fun and bouncy and interesting textures. I didn’t see anyone trying to bring them back for the “y2k” trend which is a bummer because they’re pretty much the only thing I miss from then

No. 1581557

>>1581554
I think about those shirts once a week. I remember how teeny tiny they were on the shelf, and then boom, completely covers you when you slip it on. I agree, wish they would come back. Worst feeling shirts in existence though, terrible texture.

No. 1581570

Anyone else wear hats? I've started wearing Edwardian/late victorian clothing when I go on dates, but finding hats is really hard. I prefer the more modest sized ones, but it's really hard to find hats in that style that aren't slapped together by under paid workers. Right now I only own one, but I don't know where to find others.

No. 1581580

>>1581570
Does your bf/gf match your style? It's funny imagining a girl in jeans and her gf is dressed like a vampire from an old Hollywood movie.

No. 1581592

>>1581360
Basically Mulger wifery. Or the crazy hats you had in the fashion industry in the 1950s. How is it that there were more sartorial choices for older women back then?

No. 1581593

Looking back on affairs like fashion shows before the 2000s, I can't help but think the proliferation of digital media really destroyed something essential in the modality of runway fashion. Not the clothes, but the spectacle of the runway itself. There's this interview by Pat Cleveland where she talks about how much she feels the energy of the people on the runway and naturally she wants to give the people what they "want", and so she twirls, dances, flicks her arm this way or her legs this way. There's this energy that isn't present nowadays and I think it's because runways were thought to be more of a "live" affair. There wasn't this all-permeating awareness of how everything will look and move online. In result, I think there was this process of alienation, where models - before, considered live performers for a very receptive audience - are now strictly aware of cameras and video, and are now corporeally estranged from the audience. It reminds me of the debate about live music versus studio music, and how in some genres like punk you can lose something deeply important in the experience of live music if you record it in the studio, especially using certain digital equipment.

No. 1581594

Did the sunscreen industry kill the hat industry?

No. 1581620

>>1581594
actually I think it was the hairspray industry

No. 1581653

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>>1581570
I wasn't a hat person before, but I started becoming one when I learned to crochet. So great for bad hair days. The next one I want to make is a pie beret.

No. 1581657

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Do you think Peter Do can bring Helmut Lang back from the dead? I like some his musings and work ethic, but can't say I'm that excited about his designs.

No. 1581675

>>1581653
Hey, that's a neat hat.

No. 1581676

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No. 1581677

>>1581580
He does not, lol. So imagine a nerdy elementary school teacher with a dinosaur tie with a vampire girlfriend.
>>1581594
I've been told it was the car industry. That fast moving cars blew away hats and that they were too low for large hats.

No. 1581681

>>1581554
They never left, I've seen them in stores and tourist areas the last 20 years.

No. 1581683

>>1581676
that's much more interesting to look at than most cut outs

No. 1581746

>>1581495
>>1581512
Every viscose garment I have ever had has spaced/torn or pilled within hours of owning it because it got caught on a hangnail, recently cut nails. or I sat on something the wrong texture. It looks so sad when I see it it thrift stores, along with the faux polyester silk imitations that get the same patterns in them. I don't know the technical term for when the threads separate and you get weird pockets of space and visible crosshatching of the threads around it, but it does THAT. You see it on cheap Chinese scarves.

No. 1581753

>>1581746
I know. Viscose is pigskin fabric. The way it sits and drags on the skin is awful. And it's so flimsy, so you can't even call it rice bag fabric, because rice bag fabric is better. It's just plain evil. And what's with the fact that viscose is more marketed to women than men? Why do I have to go to men's section to find cotton?

No. 1581763

>>1581753
Most men will not tolerate frilly bullshit or low quality garments. They usually go to a store with a particular article in mind they know they need, ex. new slacks, old ones tore, then look for the best quality/comfortable fit for their price point and get out. Men who know what viscose is are probably the type to splurge in lux stores that carry it for men in the first place. Places looking for a profit from average Joe will not.

No. 1581769

>>1581746
I agree. Viscose is fucking terrible and these fabrics actually have more syntetic fibers added to them now, on top of toxic materials already used in transforming cellulose. Seller in a fabric store I frequent told me that most of stuff called "viscose" she gets to sell burns like plastic fabrics.
>>1581657
I kinda kept up with his work good while ago but I started to feel that it looks tryhard, like weird deconstruction or cutouts to make minimalism less boring. He never really felt like spiritual successor to Lang and nothing will beat Lang's 90s collections for me. Fashion needs more clothing that fits over bad deconstruction or everything oversized. I agree with this nona a lot
>>1581593
When I look at old fashion shows I like how more simplicistic they are and clothing take center stage, outrageous sets were for couture and they complimented clothing, created a specacle. I saw so much of over the top sets when I still kept up with modern fashion and I didn't really liked
them. It was changed since social media brained audience demands more of visual stimulation and they can't appreciate just models going down on runway and showing personality. One related thing is how we have loads of faceless and no personality models than it was pre-2000. I always see many names memed but they just walk down on the runway or pose without any emotion on runways. Models as entertainers were killed.

>>1581427
Based. I hate "Y2K" the most, mostly due to my 00s fashion autism and how the worst trends are brought back instead of what was good. You get even more pornified take on trends lifted from celebrities and only few collections from that time are brought back. I never see feminine, practical and minimalist in form clothes revived, when it's one of my favorite thing about late 90s and early 00s fashion. You get slutcore fast fashion garbage in ugly colors or terrible clashes of trends on runways, like Blumarine did for an example. Many people just hyperfocus on celebs especially in this era than looking at more runway collections than ones by biggest fashion houses, editorial and ad scans or even watch old TV shows/programming to see how things looked on side of an average person.
>>1581180
This. Once I saw some of them jump on someone in community not knowing about some streetwear brand they consider "crucial to fashion", not sure if it was Bape or that brand that was owned by Pharell Williams. It's like fashion tumblr but more vapid and retarded. Though I didn't see black trannies demanding to be paid for reposting old runway pictures yet but maybe I didn't lurk more.

No. 1581775

>>1581769
Samefag but I forgot to add that I wish there were more scans of anything else than just editorials, especially content about trends on a budget or features about various women, how they dress, etc.
>>1580524
Ot but I really can't understand moids obsessed with cataloguing certain models, even worse if it's a celeb woman/actress/singer. In my country lot of fashion magazines are sold by moids who collected them for some irrelevant celeb, put into shitty "material bundles" who are listed for years and never will split them. So many mags I want are listed but I won't buy them with disgusting moid mags. They are annoying buyers too, ones that wanted to buy from me sperged out how badly they want it just for some famous woman. I never sell to them though

No. 1581778

>>1581769
>This. Once I saw some of them jump on someone in community not knowing about some streetwear brand they consider "crucial to fashion", not sure if it was Bape or that brand that was owned by Pharell Williams
The brand was Billionare Boys Club which is a very well known brands in the streetwear scene, but not everyone will know that and everyone has their own lane in fashion. I think the person was just posting that they recently learned about Billionare Boys Club with the new that Pharrell was becoming the creative director of Louis Vuitton. It was really only a few people that went in on them, most were in agreement that not everyone will know everything.

No. 1581784

>>1581778
Yes, it was this one but I had hard time remembering what exactly happened. Thanks nona. Good to hear there were people who understood that person, I only saw these who went after that so hard just for stating they actually learned about it. I don't get excepting from people who have their own niches to know everything.
Additionally I hate how streetwear got close to high fashion though, it always felt weird for me and shitty extension of hype culture on top of ruining character of both things.

No. 1582304

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can someone post examples of ''nerd/geek'' fashion?

No. 1582359

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No. 1582413

>>1579038
I don't like it, because that piece of sole under the heel looks like a cow's udders. I would quite like it if that bit wasn't there.

No. 1582415

>>1582413
That's the other shoe anon

No. 1582435

>>1582359
Nerd on nerd crime.

No. 1582535


No. 1582558

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I think I would literally die if I ever got to wear a Zac Posen gown (will never happen but a gal can dream).

No. 1582559

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I think I would literally die if I ever got to wear a Zac Posen gown (will never happen but a gal can dream).

No. 1582592

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>>1582304
genuine nerd clothes or like geek chic fashion? Gucci did a thing a few years ago

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No. 1582600

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No. 1582610

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No. 1582617

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No. 1582618

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>>1582610
I think she's more thrifty-chic

No. 1582621

>>1582304
a part of that fashion sphere that seems important to some of them is going out of their way to not have any brand logos because they are "too smart" to be a walking advertisement, and also deciding what fabrics are "good" or "bad" and then over-loading their outfits with the "good" one.

No. 1582623

>>1582600
This has been my style ever since I was a late teen. At home it's just shorts/pants and a plain t-shirt. I'm fucking boring but I don't care anymore.

No. 1582639

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>>1582304
>cargo shorts, cargo pants, and cargo pants zippers on the knees
>>frequently men's styles instead of women's
>>especially leaving the bottom parts draped around the ankle like picrel

>t-shirts (both female and male cuts) featuring the individual's personal interests, such as popular IPs, bands, textual references

>often, a men's button-up shirt like in the post i'm replying to is worn on top. usually the outer shirt is somewhat muted in color and pattern.

>sturdy walking shoes


>minimal accessories, typically:

>>medium-duty bag (big enough to carry notebooks or small laptop) with a cross-body strap
>>simple jewelry, often soft materials (leather, hemp)
>>eccentrics sometimes wear hats like trilby, bonnet, or beret

that's how young geeky women dressed in like 2010 anyway

No. 1582645

>>1582639
>especially leaving the bottom parts draped around the ankle like picrel
the thought of this makes me irrationally angry. I've never seen anyone do that oh my god I would lose it

No. 1582648

>>1582645
you need therapy

No. 1582662

>>1582648
I think anyone who walks around with part of their pants around their ankles needs a handler

No. 1582732

>>1580262
The Normie who strives to become The Put Together

No. 1582760

>>1582662
anyone with this strong of an opinion about something that doesn't matter should be institutionalized

No. 1582828

>>1582359
beautiful

No. 1582834

>>1582760
>she said on lolcow.farm

No. 1582835

>>1582558
Whenever we talk about zac my mind goes to call him "Zac Prozac" and it makes me feel mentally challenged.

No. 1582874

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Gotta thank YSL and Danielle Luquet de Saint Germain for giving us women in suits.

No. 1582878

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>>1582874
Samefag, for more context.
>The Le Smoking tuxedo suit for women was the first of its kind to earn attention in the fashion world and in popular culture. The tuxedo suit was designed for women. The inspiration for the suit was the androgynous personal style of Saint Laurent model and muse Danielle Luquet de Saint Germain

>It pioneered long, minimalist, androgynous styles for women, as well as the use of power suits and the pantsuit in modern-day society.


>In French and many other languages, the pseudo-anglicism smoking refers to tuxedo/black tie clothing. It is a false friend deriving from the Victorian fashion of the smoking jacket.

No. 1582885

>>1582874
I’m not mad it got mainstream and I’m happy YSL helped with that but surely women were wearing suits before then

No. 1582915

>>1582885
>was the first of its kind to earn attention in the fashion world and in popular culture

No. 1583054

Any nonlettes in the industry? Is fashion school worth it? I am seriously considering transferring college to FIT or something but school is so expensive here in burgerland…sorry if this should go somewhere else but I felt that it was related enough

No. 1583070

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>>1582915
nta but the fashion world/popular culture is just the mainstream and women were definitely wearing suits and "crossdressing" prior to YSL lol
https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/tuxedo-black-tie-guide/advanced/women-tuxedo-tailcoat/

No. 1583091

>>1583070
Yes I know that anon. I thought it was self-explanatory but I was greentexting that part to say that YSL popularized it. The "giving us women in suits" thing wasn't meant to be taken so literal.

No. 1583092

>>1579148
This post reads like someone who has flat feet and is competing by calling high heels “torture devices”. Not everyone wants to wear them for the male gaze, some women just want to feel sexy in ‘em, ever thought of that?

No. 1583128

>>1583092
>some women just want to feel sexy in ‘em
NTA but what do they need to "feel sexy" for? And why is it even a thing? Kind of strange to just want to "feel sexy" don't you think?

No. 1583159

what do u nonnas think about “recession core” / “quiet luxury” / “old money” trends in fashion? i am quite feed up with seeing it everywhere.

No. 1583175

>>1583128
Nta and I hate heels but a sexual person having the desire to "feel sexy" isn't sTrAnGe at all, it's natural.
Though dumb foot paraphelia like heels is not the way to go about it imo

No. 1583178

>>1583092
Why are heels sexy?

No. 1583194

>>1583092
But isn’t it mostly bc of males heels are seen as sexy? Don’t get me wrong, I own some as well and find them sexy looking too mut but let’s not fool ourselves

No. 1583196

>>1583194
Nta but I haven't met a single lesbian that is aroused by heels so it must be

No. 1583197

>>1583178
nta but it elongates the legs and pushes the chest forward.

No. 1583202

>>1583196
Nta but am a lesbionic: can atleast admit that while there is nothing intrinsically hot about the heels themselves I can vouch for finding the silhouette created with heels on a woman attractive including on myself, but not to a point I would pick the heeled woman over someone in flats or platforms cause it completely depends on the outfits accompanied with said shoe types.

No. 1583215

>>1583202
Ok but I don't think you're in the majority. I'm bi and they do nothing for me, except for looking painful when they're too big.

No. 1583293

>>1583159
sorry for blogpost, this qn got me thinking.
hard agree. while the principles behind the goods used in quiet luxury hold a lot of water (i.e. buy it for life, the price is worth the craftsmanship), you know for a fact that the people who adopted quiet luxury recently weren't into it a few years ago and won't be into it a few years from now. if we boil quiet luxury down to its aesthetic only, what we're left with basically amounts to rich person cosplay, which is where the shein-ified version of old money (tennis skirts, argyle vests, headbands, houndstooth) comes from. i can understand why the trend's popped up though; the economy sucks and people want to project themselves into that idealised lifestyle.

my guess is that old money, given its large crossover with sad beige shit, is an adapted form of the idea of neutrality which has taken over a lot of design trends within the last 10 years, although the trappings of it make it slightly different from the bog standard san serif, corporate memphis, gradients with grain flavour of neutrality. however, given that neutrality isn't on the cutting edge of design anymore, we're left with two paths that old money can take.

if old money continues to lean into its timeless shtick and push out beige stuff, then i imagine the main brand powerhouses behind the trend will fade back into the general fashion ecosystem and continue to have reasonable success, because at the end of the day the designs aren't doing anything new. if there's a push on the idea of heritage like what burberry is doing right now, then that'd appeal more to the rich person cosplayer zoomer demographic, which currently has more pop culture clout. however, the risk of that is the chances of the look being oversaturated and thus losing the exclusive appeal of old money is higher.

either way im sick of old money being called timeless because its very obviously going to be dated in three fucking years at the rate fashion is going. it only lasted as long as it did compared to its more outlandish contemporaries such as cottagecore and e-kids because of its broader appeal, but as the zeitgeist changes, old money will (hopefully) end up in the same place as uggs and pumpkin spice lattes.

on a broader note, i hate the whole "-core" "-wave" thing; it worked when websites with tagging systems were the big thing but now it reeks of terminal pinterest brain.

No. 1583313

>>1583215
I never said I was in the majority, just tired of anons making sweeping generalizations about groups when nobody is a monolith.

No. 1583637

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I'm not qualified to really add anything of importance that hasn't already been said about Chalayan's work ten times over but I really appreciate how it feels so contemporary and modern.

No. 1583683

I’ve worn the same shit for decades and just wear what’s cute from my closet. Haven’t bought new clothes in years. I still like thigh highs and will still wear them because they’re cute. Following trends doesn’t make sense to me. I have a forever 21 dress I got on clearance for $8 in 2012 that I still get compliments on. Other dresses from F21 I kept in good shape that I got in 2013 and 2015 and I still wear them out and get compliments. Following trends makes no sense.

No. 1583709

>>1583683
Following trends is fun, get that stick out of your ass.

No. 1583781

>>1583683
why would you come into a thread about fashion just to let us know that you are an nlog who doesnt care about fashion

No. 1583880

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>>1583683
>I’ve worn the same shit for decades and just wear what’s cute from my closet. Haven’t bought new clothes in years. I still like thigh highs and will still wear them because they’re cute. Following trends doesn’t make sense to me. I have a forever 21 dress I got on clearance for $8 in 2012 that I still get compliments on. Other dresses from F21 I kept in good shape that I got in 2013 and 2015 and I still wear them out and get compliments. Following trends makes no sense.

No. 1583896

>>1583683
I agree with you. You should wear what you like. You can like fashion or have a personal style and not be a consoomer about it. I wouldn’t chide someone in real life about it if they bought a lot, I assume it’s like a hobby for them and I don’t begrudge people for spending money on their hobbies but I also don’t think you necessarily have to follow trends if you like fashion.

No. 1583897

>>1583880
Nah I’m not fat and that’s a hideous boring outfit in any time period

No. 1583915

>>1583781
she said followings trends is stupid, she never said she hates fashion. why do you think trend following = fashion?

No. 1583936

>>1583880
Nonna i am triggered why did you have to remind me

No. 1583985

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Dior debuted their Resort 2024 collection yesterday, the destination is Mexico City, Mexico. It's Maria Grazia so it's as bland as you can expect (imo). Something interesting though, is that they had embroidered words like "feminazi", "retard", and "Viva mi Vida!" (amongst many other words) onto the clothing to apparently shoutout feminist movements and femicide in Mexico. Very bold statement to make considering Johnny Depp recently signed a deal to remain the face of Sauvage.

No. 1583987

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>>1583985
Samefag, here's the dresses dedicated to feminism. And a link to the full collection.
https://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/resort-2024/christian-dior

No. 1584051

>>1583985
I mean I like the idea behind the collection but the execution is so…obvious? So on the nose with literal phrases being embroidered on the same old boring cuts we have been looking at for the last few years. I see less belts so I'll take that as a small win.

No. 1584061

>>1583987
i don't get chiuri's work and hype around dior under her creative direction at all, it's just so boring. her "feminism" always was just so tryhard and virtue signalling, because embroidery on dress or slogan on t-shirt does shit

No. 1584247

>>1583880
kek nona fatality

No. 1584264

>>1583987
this looks like someone's very first project at design school

No. 1584271

>>1581307
LOL it's because fashion is full of gay males and childlike women look more like boys

No. 1584272

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>>1584264
My exact thoughts. Setting aside the dress itself (it's so simple a middle schooler could do it), what were they going for with the designs? They're literally making their wearers look like a Doodle Bear.

No. 1584277

>>1584272
This unearthed deep childhood memories from my mind

No. 1584286

>>1579750
It is not exactly a "fashion" statement, but it very much is a lifestyle statement, which is related to fashion. I don't buy that vegan products are more polluting on average, but the vegan labeling is absolutely getting used to greenwash bad shit and markup regular shit.

No. 1584287

>>1579750
It is not exactly a "fashion" statement, but it very much is a lifestyle statement, which is related to fashion. I don't buy that vegan products are more polluting on average, but the vegan labeling is absolutely getting used to greenwash bad shit and markup regular shit.

No. 1584288

>>1584272
omg I had a bear like this when I was a kid and loved it so much. sweet memories

No. 1584292

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>>1584264
Lol it totally does. There are other looks that aren't just white dresses but I still find them so meh.I've kind of come to terms with the fact that Maria Grazia just isn't interested in doing anything remarkable at Dior like a lot of her predecessors did. Everything is so bland, I won't even call her designs bad because that's too strong of a word to describe them.

No. 1584295

>>1584292
lmao @ the butterflies. maria grazias behind the curve AGAIN

No. 1584299

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>>1584292
Samefag, speaking of Dior, Natalie Portman wore the Junon gown at Cannes. It's definitely a recreation but regardless it's so nice to see. Right is the OG dress and it's sister Venus, which hopefully we will see sometime as well!

No. 1584314

>>1584287
I had a roommate who was vegan only for the aesthetic. Did not care about animal rights or health at all. She was an alt girl and she thought vegan fit better than omni.

No. 1584316

>>1584299
Beautiful on her, but I think she should have gone more vibrant with the colors since there's no accessorizes and the jewelry is extremely understated.

No. 1584319

>>1584299
That dress looks bad. Maybe it's because I'm comparing it to the original, but it looks like an aliexpress knock off. None of the craftmanship of Dior's. I wonder if she just didn't want to spend the money on it, or if her designer was incompetent.

No. 1584322

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>>1584319
I agree that it looks cheaper but honestly I thought it may have been red carpet lights making it look like that, especially because it looks less sparkly. I think the main thing making it look so different is that it appears like the embroidery is sparser and while also using bigger chunks of sequins. It's like only a sprinkle of sequins compared to the original. At the same time, I don't think Christian Dior's work can be truly 1-1 recreated so I'm kinda just happy with what we're getting.

No. 1584385

>>1583683
Can we report posts like this later on? This thread was made to discuss fashion theory, history, and designers. What is this about "following trends"?

No. 1584388

>>1584385
Nta but the OP says
>Post about everything fashion related; designers, collections, the industry, jobs, experiences, influences and effects on ordinary people and your life, the past, the future, the present, etc.
I would think "effects on ordinary people and your life" would include things like trends. Fashion isn't just about history and high fashion. I think it's better to just keep this as a general fashion thread and contribute more of the things you want to see and discuss.

No. 1584391

>>1584388
Samefag, but I also think trends and how fast they are going in and out of style and how cyclical they are could be an interesting thing to talk about. That's a part of fashion, especially in the current age.

No. 1584397

>>1584391
I agree. I remember this take about Chanel, and how back in the day her not changing her tweed jacket at shows could be considered a kind of rebellion against the essence of fashion (the trend, the new destroying the old) and denying time itself. It's an interesting discussion but why do people wander in this thread to post things like that? We specifically made it for them not to. OP was talking from a righteous place when I bet more people here dress in t-shirt and jeans in real life and are mindful of their purchasing habits.

No. 1584448

>>1584385
anna wintour here Although that post contributes close to nothing to the over-all narrative of the thread it is, in the end, a fashion related opinion so reporting it would be a little "extra". I do, however, deeply enjoy when other anons dogpile memes on said posts/posters.

No. 1584650

File: 1684804947251.jpg (177.14 KB, 1200x726, butterfly.jpg)

I was watching a Chung Thanh Phong show and I can't stop thinking about these designs and models.

No. 1584653

>>1584650
Here's the full show if anyone wants to see. It's an interesting watch (even if a lot of it feels like IG fashion). I wish this designer had a website or something for higher quality photos but he's Vietnamese and it's hard to find anything but an Instagram.

No. 1584655

Still liking that ugly brown Lewis Vuten monogram print is a sign of being tacky and tasteless… like okay jefree star, can't move on from 2005, buy an ed hardy t shirt while you're at it.

No. 1584682

>>1584655
>lewis vuten
what

No. 1584684


No. 1584685

>>1584682
Lewis Vutton

No. 1584688

File: 1684810028294.jpeg (90.04 KB, 1179x573, IMG_8669.jpeg)

>>1584650
They remind me of the fairies that summon Mothra (shobijin) but modernized

No. 1584695

>>1584650
me and who

No. 1584702

>>1584655
>>1584682
>>1584685
im fucking dying keke

No. 1585045

>>1583683
>wearing thigh highs when you're not a child
Ew. Do you go out with thigh highs? I've never seen anyone but trannies wear thigh highs irl.

No. 1585051

>>1585045
What, What children are even wearing thigh highs? I mostly see thigh highs in lingerie sets.

No. 1585058

>>1585045
where the fuck you live children wear thigh highs? here only adults do it but I agree it's kinda of a tranny/weeb pickme kind of fashion choice sometimes. I only ever see alt girls/trannies or weebs wearing them.

No. 1585065

File: 1684854717562.png (257.89 KB, 588x475, MK.png)

What do nonnies think of Mia getting into fa? Or has this always been a thing for her? I'm late, I guess lol

No. 1585076

>>1585058
>>1585051
>>1585045
NTA but you all must be very young to not remember teenage weebs (girls, not boys) wearing thigh high socks in the last 2000s. Or maybe you're just too young to consider teenagers children? Either way, I was one of those thigh-high sock -wearing children kek

No. 1585079

>>1585076
Child/children implies little kid, not a teenager.

No. 1585081

>>1585079
So you're just too young to consider teenagers children, got it. NBD.

No. 1585097

>>1585058
Girls wear over-the-knee socks that are kind of like high thigh highs. Think of the victorian children’s fashion that inspired EGL, random parents still dress daughters up like aristo-children sometimes

No. 1585098

>>1585081
I hate how some anons try to start arguments over dumb shit. You know that's not what child means anon.

No. 1585101

>>1583683
Based. This thread is full of wannabes so they're mad at you, but besides the not having bought new clothes in years, this is the mentality of literally anyone who actually has their own sense of style/isn't a fashion victim or trying to sell some garbage on IG.

No. 1585111

>>1585098
anyone who isn't an adult is a child, anon. that's just how definitions work.

No. 1585132

>>1584685
St Lewis McMutton

No. 1585146

>>1585111
Yeah but even so, in most contexts people use "child" to mean a young kid (someone younger than a teenager). OP could have definitely meant teenagers, but when you say child most people will not think of teenagers first. It's just a weird thing to insist on and feels like semantics.
Anyway this is dumb, sorry. I don't want to derail the thread too much.

No. 1585155

File: 1684863690835.jpg (899.71 KB, 3000x3000, image.jpg)

>>1582760
The irony in this comment kek

>>1583683
Love this, and I agree.

>>1585111
Shut the fuck up and get down off the high horse, please. Cringe

Anyways this podcast is fantastic. I'm no fashion fanatic but I find it to be very interesting with well-researched episodes. Has anyone else listened? What do you think?

No. 1585159

>>1585155
I've been looking for new podcasts! I'm so picky about what I watch and listen to so it's hard to find anything, and I've never even thought about fashion podcasts. Thank you anon for the rec anon.

No. 1585178

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Imo, it's so hard to get into her style but sometimes she can pull out a look.

No. 1585184

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>>1585178
Samefag, she just really knows her lame and sticks to it. Either boots, a coat and skirt/dress, or a dress with some bold design (usually floral print). I will admit I've taken some fashion inspo from an Anna outfit.

No. 1585239

File: 1684870819997.jpg (163.98 KB, 1200x1200, versace resort pink looks (2).…)

Versace Resort 2024, co-designed by Dua Lipa came out just an hour ago. I actually wasn't expecting to like this so much but I do. Dua Lipa is starring in the new Barbie movie and some of the looks here ("here" as in the entire collection) I could imagine on a Barbie

No. 1585242

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No. 1585246

>>1585051
>>1585058
I used to wear thigh highs with my uniform in primary school and my classmates also did so, in adults I've never seen a normal woman wear it, I've only seen trannies or weirdos wear them outside. Some obese weebs wear them online.

No. 1585254

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>>1585242
I think the polka dots were this collections downfall tbh.

No. 1585255

File: 1684872497827.jpg (83.32 KB, 1000x700, versace.jpg)

Ok I won't post anymore but these were very cute.

No. 1585294

>>1585255
>>1585239
>>1585242
>>1585254
If you told me this was Zara or Fashion Nova I'd believe it.

No. 1585342

>>1585132
underrated comment

No. 1585345

>>1585294
as a versacefag I agree, this deserves the bin

No. 1585353

>>1583985
>>1583987
I'm mexican and this screams "I live in upper-class polanco, far away from the realities of the average mexican woman but they say mean things of me on insta so imma make my victim statement through writing slut on a dress to signify that I am a proud slut and the patriarchal system affects me to a minimum."
TL;DR is a vapid rehash of useless pseudo-activism. I hope they at least paid the couturiers appropriately.

No. 1585367

>>1585239
Only tangentially related, but for fashion anons here who keep up with these brands/designers, do you actually buy and wear this stuff? How do you know what to buy and where do you wear it to, like is it just your everyday clothes?

No. 1585399

File: 1684885517945.png (1.93 MB, 1018x1492, Cllg.png)

>>1585367
as a versacefag it pretty much depends on your lifestyle. My work environment requires me to wear formal clothing but I love maximalism, so I wiggle myself around with colours and accessories. So I just keep classic formal-wear silhouettes and jazz them up with either patterns or solid bright colours and not too obnoxious jewellery.

No. 1585463

>>1585255
omg i hate the oversized shirt + knee length shorts + high socks and sneakers combo. this is every fuckboy wannabe high schooler favorite combo or something. especially with both hands in the pockets ugh

>>1584287
it's a lifestyle choice for people who are vegan but when looking at someone's outfit you don't know which piece of clothing is vegan, if it's intentionally vegan, and if they're wearing it because it's vegan. i agree that the label can be used to greenwash when people conflate vegan/organic/sustainable/zero waste/gluten free/fair trade/whatever which is retarded.

No. 1585521

>>1585239
its evoking past collections without really adding anything new to the table. also, some of the looks seems to be aping blumarine ss22 in feel without being as visually interesting.

No. 1585525

>>1585367
Ayrt, I'm broke!

No. 1585834

>>1585367
Hell no, designer shit is just outrageously overpriced sweatshop garbage.

No. 1585906

File: 1684946596828.jpg (22.48 KB, 270x480, ellie-jean.JPG)

so many fashion youtubers just give me horrible vibes for some reason i can't articulate

No. 1586471

File: 1684971396178.jpg (218.6 KB, 1200x600, louis vomit.jpg)

Louis Vuitton Cruise 2024. Destination is Isola Bella. There's many things to say but all I will say is this; Nicholas Ghesquire, wtf is your problem?

No. 1586475

File: 1684971836053.jpg (248.33 KB, 1200x800, literal shit.jpg)

>>1586471
Genuinely what were they thinking? There's no coherency, what's even Italian about this?

No. 1586493

>>1586471
nicolas ghesquière really just sucks. complete retard who does edgy ugly shit

No. 1586497

>>1586471
Looks like when you try to get all the rare armors in a playthrough and wear them at once

No. 1586500

>>1585834
Truly. People who fall for ugly monogram prints are the biggest joke to me, it doesn't even look good. Fendi prints can be cute but Louis Vutton is boot nasty and shit brown, they haven't slayed since the rainbow lettering era

No. 1586517

File: 1684974719127.png (929.35 KB, 626x1002, Tina Turner.png)

I was looking through photo's of Tina, and she had some truly great stage costumes. Here's her in the iconic Bob Mackie flame costume (you've probably also seen it on the lovely Cher). I would love if any other anons shared costumes (stage, movies, whatever) too! I feel they are an underrated part of fashion.

No. 1586549

>>1586471
>>1586475
loving the skid row collection tbh

No. 1586550

>>1586517
nonny if you want to spam some of her iconic looks I wouldn't mind I don't know anything about tina besides she being a singer

No. 1586627

>>1585294
i'm sick of the zoomer bustier with the long corset front with the oversized blazer, it's so BORING

No. 1586732

>>1586471
>>1586475
Horrible, just as expected. Everything is right in the universe. I just feel sorry for celebs who have a contract with LV and get "styled" for events.

No. 1586928

File: 1685023502403.png (18.56 KB, 650x523, CAPTURE.png)

There’s a really good twitter thread on fashion, it’s really interesting actually how most people have a very skewed view on how clothes should actually cost because of fast fashion. If people all down the line were paid ethically, we’d be paying essentially that much for a piece like that. There’s some measure of mark up because it’s designer but things like hand stitched lace? They’re expensive and specialty. And it goes on. Ethically made items will be expensive by virtue of having to make a profit on top of paying works. Shein can pump out garbage because it uses shit fabric and underpays factory workers.

https://twitter.com/lingerie_addict/status/1339620266348044289

No. 1586940

File: 1685024166109.jpeg (291.58 KB, 1366x2048, 3D642AB2-53E5-48FA-9B3D-DE9404…)

>>1586928
Here’s the set for anyone too lazy to check the thread

No. 1586950

>>1586940
finally, libido-killing lingerie

No. 1586951

>>1586940
I mean this obviously has work put into it but when I first saw it, I thought you were asking whether you should buy this random lingerie from shein or something. It really doesn't look expensive. I doubt itd be durable either.

No. 1586952

>>1586940
the lingerie itself is tasteful but the choker is so fucking tacky lmao

No. 1586955

>>1586928
That's true for everyone who actually works for a living. Only useless jobs are paid decently.

No. 1586975

>>1586952
That's what I thought, a shitty choker can make anything look like shein landfill.

No. 1586999

>>1586952
I like that it's literally made from a bra strap lol

No. 1587006

>>1586928
>>1586940
I don't have an eye for lingerie, I find them all very tacky and distasteful, but the tweetard is fairly correct. Making clothing of good/high lasting quality is not the standard anymore, more like the exception. Try finding raw fabric that hasn't gone through pesticides, acidic toxic waste and slave labour, is just not the standard. If I had to choose between ugly but safely and mainly humanly made panties vs rat poison soaked slave laboured ones I'll go for the frenchie field ones for my coochie.

No. 1587058

>>1586940
It's definitely cute, but not $1000 cute. And I don't mean that to devalue her labor, I totally believe the labor was worth $1000. But I would have rather had a $1000 dress with that lace than that. Also, does anyone have experience with Leaver lace? I know why it's expensive, but is it truly a superior lace to the new machines? Or is it just hype and exclusiveness?
>>1587006
Do you have any companies that have better quality fabric? I can't sew, so I don't make my own clothes, but I crochet and I usually source my yarn from small cotton farmers I personally email after finding them online.

No. 1587066

When I dress modestly people snicker at me, when I dress to accentuate my body I get catcalled endlessly. Sometimes I get both in the same outfit. How the fuck do people dress fashionable and not get all this unwanted attention?

No. 1587071

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>>1587066
Dress in this.

No. 1587072

>>1587066
the strug

No. 1587073

>>1587066
What are you wearing that's modest but gets you snickered at?

No. 1587074

File: 1685037521530.jpg (294.96 KB, 1230x1848, EpiQ8N7XUAAEDj4.jpg)

>>1586940
Very informative thread but damn this shit is ugly

No. 1587091

>>1587058
actually what you are doing right now is a fantastic way of getting your hands on high quality garments. Locally is not always better but is very good alternative. A little trick of mine is this: I use https://www.listthe.com/ to check who and where are the manufacturers of pretty much any product I consume (makeup, clothing, skincare etc.). I made an account with a random name and an old email I don't really use at all and voila, no more cheap chinese stuff for me.

No. 1587126

File: 1685040814884.png (5.55 MB, 2664x1998, GettyImages-851630324 (1).png)

Something about Donatella is just so cute to me. Yes she's a PS monster but I want to put her in my pocket.

No. 1587152

File: 1685041998953.png (15.66 KB, 686x184, height.PNG)

>>1587126
im the same height as her, put me in your pocket too nonny!

No. 1587155

>>1586928
this is kind of disingenuous because the bulk of the cost here has to do with the insane amount of labor that goes into making lace and sewing by hand. There's nothing wrong with that, but there's also nothing inherently wrong with sewing/lacemaking machines. The lingerie set doesn't cost $1000 because it's ethically made (you can find plenty of small lingerie makers on Etsy who make everything themselves out of eco-friendly materials for like ~$100), it costs that much because it's a luxury good.

No. 1587180

>>1585906
I think it's because she's British. the kibbe subreddit has discredited her because she barely understands kibbe and makes people pay for her services. At least with reddit, it's free

No. 1587187

>>1587066
are you super curvy or have a big bust? your clothes don't matter, it's just because of your body type unfortunately.

No. 1587262

>>1586940
this shit looks both itchy and ugly

No. 1588840

Saw some galaxy leggings in a thread here and I remembered following blackmilk in 2009(?) and watching it skyrocket… it was a total mystery to me how he got Star Wars and other major brand license prints. Literally thought he was just stealing them and would get sued but he must have known what he was doing. Does anyone remember that? I really want to discover he had connections from the start or something, it was so weird how this random Australian guy got so successful.

No. 1588845

>>1586928
Lol funny seeing Cora here. She's thisclose to becoming a cow.

No. 1588851

>>1586950
Lol

>>1587155
Nta but this is a great point.

No. 1588854

>>1588845
I like Cora but she's become annoying to me due to the amount of discourse she engages in. And also I feel like she's constantly talking about fast fashion, but perhaps that's just something she feels passionate about as a fashion lover.

No. 1588861

>>1588840
Interesting, you're pretty much right but LucasFilms decided to go with it because Star Wars solely exists to pump out merch at this point.
>Black Milk’s first line to draw the attention of fandom was Star Wars. Their R2-D2 swimsuit was shared everywhere on social media, but they ran across licensing issues when they manufactured the line without Lucasfilm’s permission. They turned it into a business opportunity, however, and worked with Lucasfilm to gain licensing rights. Now all their geeky gear is officially licensed, and the plays a role in the design process by providing resources and guidelines for what images Black Milk can use. The design team works from these to create the artwork for each collection.

No. 1588897

>>1588861
I thought he did it without permission! Ok so I wasn’t crazy to remember that. But it’s still strange to me he got the license instead of them just making him stop, they could have made their own stupid cheap leggings/swimsuits/skater dresses.

No. 1588907

>>1588897
He did do it without permission nonna! But instead of suing, LucasFilm (oops there's no s at the end of LucasFilm) decided to license it and get a cut of the profits. That's pretty crazy tbh
>Trademarks are fiercely protected by movie studios, so a “cease and desist” order was issued in 2012.
>But Black Milk founder James Lillis and marketing manager Cameron Parker can be persuasive chaps, and that legal warning turned into a licensing deal with Lucasfilm to create the “sexy geek chic” outfit

No. 1588924

>>1588907
Once the Star Wars branding became official I stopped following Black Milk because it got weird and the seconds-sales and interesting stupid stuff stopped being sold so it was too rich for me. I wonder if he was just really lucky or what…

No. 1588934

>>1588924
Yeah basically he was really lucky to have an already majorly successful company. That's probably why he tried it in the first place; he definitely would have known he was gonna get sued for copyright infringement. Disney, LucasFilm, etc take their brand (aka their profits) very seriously.

No. 1588952

You would think this thread would have actual civilized conversation, and instead is full of infighting about fucking Lolita and retardation about knee high socks.

Why is the standard in here dressing like a Secretary on opioids?(baiting/infighting)

No. 1592172

>>1588934
the whole thing was probably planned as a publicity stunt, with disney/lucasfilm in on it all from the very start. companies have been doing it for ages, especially announcing a "fake joke product" on april fools day and then "somehow" being able to manufacture the product for retail sale within a week.

No. 1596519

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I absolutely have not been able to stop thinking about the armadillo shoes and Jeffrey Campbell shoes for some reason today.

No. 1596522

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>>1596519
Samefag. Can I just say I always disliked these shoes even when they were on trend? The shape, particularly the toe part, is ugly to me.

No. 1596531

>>1596519
roblox mf

No. 1596569

>>1596519
The armadillo shoes had me gagged when I was like 13 y.o., seemed like peak fashion back then. But mcqueen definitely had much better collections.

No. 1596575

>>1596519
those are ugly as shit. the shape reminds me of those fetish ballet boots.

No. 1596576

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>>1596575
>>1596519
Personally I always think of HIM when I see them

No. 1596602

>>1596519
>>1596576
Omfg same!!! I think of HIM every single time and think of the shoes as big ol lobster claws lmao

No. 1596642

>>1596569
i still think he peaked in the 90s and i honestly liked his work for givenchy way more than his own label

No. 1596723

>>1596575
imagine trying to catch yourself after a misstep. and good luck getting up again after you fell down.

No. 1596808

>>1596519
>t. Lady gaga a decade ago

No. 1596826

>>1596522
tbh i think all platform shoes are ugly. they're clunky and vulgar. same for pointed toe shoes
but taht's probanly an unpopular opinion

No. 1596846

>>1596519
Intrusive thoughts suck.

No. 1597361

>>1596846
What are you implying here anon

No. 1601537

I think fashion magazines fallen since they started to be tryhard about being "creative", hyperfocusing on couture and avantgarde fashion than being just magazines for women by women who want to be fashionable. I love 90s editorials and magazines because clothes they presented were more achievable for an average women, even stuff from i-D/Dazed was more toned down and more interesting. I could flip through some 90s UK Vogue and it might be a bit boring nowadays but I enjoyed it more than current fashion content. These clothes I saw, styling in editorials was just more down to earth.

Additionally shit like making Vogue "gender neutral" (like Enninful wanted, he made Wintour furious) doesn't sit right for me. Moids have to intrude stuff for women and wreck it.

No. 1601562

>>1601537
I agree, I don't really care to spend money on a magazine that basically showcases pretty pictures of pretty people in pretty clothes with some kind of pretentious statement tacked on. The only people interested in that are fashion enthusiasts, most normies including me just want to get some new ideas for an outfit modelled on a person who looks like an average woman, not some 6 foot Skeletor with a Blue Steel facial expression.

No. 1601632

>>1601562
> outfit modelled on a person who looks like an average woman
I hate how industry only prizes 6" skeletors and now, additionally land whale fatties rather than average women. I wish more models were just average 5'3-5'5 women with average weight. I turn to older magazines for inspiration, especially columns with affordable clothing choices because it's actually achievable for me, these clothes would look good on smaller women than stuff presented nowadays. I actually dig how average women dressed in very early 2000s and this stuff looks more modern and flattering than shitty oversized men's cuts and duck feet square toes strappy sandals and greige or this insane couture/avantgarde thing for enthusiasts and gays.

Other nonas talked about it earlier but I really hate how proper fitting feminine clothing for women are gone from runways, it's either shitty deconstruction or oversized cuts - I think issue in this is additionally rooted in that fashion schools don't care about teaching construction and flat paternmaking. Fashion values concept over flattering cuts and more practical clothes compared to designer clothing from 25-50 years ago. To get anything fitted, because I love properly fitted dresses and skirts from woven fabrics, I have to sew them myself by either using my own patterns or patterns from vintage magazines.

No. 1601633

File: 1686302352173.jpg (46.46 KB, 736x712, 027c081e3261b245a5d71fe8f1d04d…)

we need more meggings. fit men only.

No. 1601641

>>1601633
Ewwww, he's brown and skinny. Gross wtf is this shit

No. 1601643

>>1601633
disgusting and moids never should wear clothing that literally expose their dicks.

No. 1601646

>>1601632
Why so bitter? It's not Vogue's fault you didn't drink enough milk growing up.

No. 1601652

>>1601641
Do you prefer men who are pale and obese?
>>1601643
They should wear little tunics over leggings, like in the medieval times. Cute.

No. 1601654

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>>1601641
Keep crying moid.

No. 1601657

>>1601652
The burnt chicken nugget fans are always the sassiest

No. 1601661

>>1601646
i just wish that "diversity" of body types was something else than tall skeletors and tall fatties with nothing in between. it would be fine if it wasn't full of vitue signalling to make statement while omitting average body types.

No. 1601680

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>>1601641
yeah much better

No. 1601684

>>1601682
>>1601680
image thristing over moids in pants that expose their dicks

No. 1601685

>>1601684
You're making it sound like the leggings have a hole in the front.

No. 1601688

>>1601633
sexy meat dildo, shame about the leggings

No. 1601691

>>1601661
Now say it without crying

No. 1601692

>>1601537
omg I stopped reading i-D/Dazed ten years ago for exactly this reason. I can't even imagine what they look like now.

No. 1601696

>>1586928
>It's expensive because Made In France
Yeah I'll stick to my child slaves, thanks.

No. 1601697

>>1601632
>>1601661
I agree with you. Slim, proportionate feminine women of normal height make clothes look 10x better. And it's what the average woman actually wants to look like.

No. 1601727

>>1601697
Especially stuff that only looks good on tall skinny models like Toteme. Like I like avant garde and high concept, but there's a difference between fashion as an art and fashion as something you wear.

No. 1601782

>>1601696
Underwear made in my country is cheap but high quality cotton, and not made by child slaves (they're just underpaid adult wagie slaves). The bras are cotton or good quality viscose, too. God cursed us with Serbian citizenship, but She blessed us with quality Serbian underwear. Such is Her will.

No. 1601825

>>1601632
>I wish more models were just average 5'3-5'5 women with average weight.
Isn't that basically every nepo baby model these days?

No. 1601846

>>1601652
>>1601633
based
>>1601684
it's called being straight. can't be helped.

No. 1601855

>>1601846
i'm straight but that >>1601633 gave me nausea. maybe because leggings-as-pants is so disgusting in general?

No. 1601872

>>1601782
tfw I will never wear quality Serpska underwear

No. 1601880

>>1601782
Serbian brand recommendations? Doesn't have to be underwear.

No. 1604594

Why is everything so shit?

No. 1604878

File: 1686604560361.jpg (148.5 KB, 1200x800, punyus-lookbooks.jpg)

>>1601537
>>1601562
>>1601632
Fashion magazines are currently trying to be the new "fashion-forward-underground" because the "commoner" lifestyle is being frown upon right now. Everyone wants to be ahead of the curve and be rained in attention, while in reality the outliners and visionaries don't get praise or validation from the big names or masses and if you do you are doing something wrong. But I agree with what these anons are saying, the fact that there are no common sense fashion options for the common-folk is distressing and is doing a disservice to the population as a whole. Instead of showing how to style and portrait an easy, reusable, good looking closet magazines, in every outlet, are telling women that they should wear a mini painted on bootlegged power puff girls crop-top with rouche on the sides from chinese sweatshops to the office. Which totally explains the disconnection one may feel to current fashion trends, they're just ugly, no way to pussy foot around it. I remember, maybe 6 or 7 years ago, a japanese magazine was doing spreads with standard and plus size models (not picrel, the models weren't "household" names) where they would showcase an outfit in both sizes. While I'm not pro-inclusivity I don't see the damage in letting an average woman model in a magazine to give the readers a realistic view of how they can look. While I don't like the example I provided because naomi is obese but I believe it could be a step, as wonky as it may be, in the right direction.

No. 1604902

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Modeling is a joke

No. 1604928

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I just watched some 90s Isaac Mizrahi runway videos on YouTube and I am in love, too bad I can't find pictures from the fall/winter collections. Even my mother was impressed by how timeless everything looks.

No. 1604929

>>1604902
kimutaku fucked the modeling world with this one

No. 1604930

>>1604928
pictures from the coats* of fall/winter collections

No. 1604932

>>1604928
Is that Yasmeen? So gorgeous. And that look is very classic.

No. 1604934

>>1604932
Yes, she looked great, one of my faves on the catwalk, Shalom and her looked amazing

No. 1604968

>>1601697
Agreed I wish the average fashion model was between 5’2 and 5’6 and slim but not anachan, rather than the average being 5’9+ skellies. I hate the argument that they’re supposed to look like a clothes hanger which is why they’re all tall skeletons, that’s stupid af. I wanna see what these clothes look like in cute normal sized normal height women not skeletor giantesses.

No. 1604982

>>1601782
I need good quality cotton panties. Lately the only panties I’ve found that fit are literally Justice brand child undies from Walmart. Please tell me where I can find some Serbian cotton panties I’ll find a shopping service I’ll find a way

No. 1604992

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I'm making serbian underwear an official staple of the LC fashion threads.

No. 1605007

>>1604968
>between 5’2 and 5’6 and slim but not anachan
>normal sized normal height women
that's basically every new nepobaby model

No. 1605072

>>1605007
Less starving teen girls are being trafficked and paid peanuts to be miserable and malnourished while constantly verbally berated tho so I don't see that as a negative thing. Era of the supermodel is over. Oh well.

No. 1605073

>>1605007
Yeah but they’re all either ugly or botched. I just want non nepo baby, actually pretty normal sized ladies as models.

No. 1607376

>>1581180
what do you think of those video essay types like rian phin? i was put off by her calling herself a "Weird girl" and goth all the time even though her style isn't unique at all. also pretending they're not a mindless consoomer like everyone else.

No. 1609565

>>1607376
ayrt. oh lord the fashion side of youtube. I'm gonna be completely honest, I avoid these kind of videos like the plague because for some reason everyone has an opinion and believe is an educated one. There are "essay fashionistas" like the notorious faggot hautelemode, which I guess is barely tolerable because he has a lot of technical knowledge and has worked in the industry (even if just backstage). On the other hand the ones who regurgitate information have to walk on a very thin line because to be a knowledge horse you have to be deep in the shit, there's a lot of terminology that needs to be known and mentioned, the history is incredibly extensive and unless the youtuber is/was a teacher I don't see a point in consuming these type of videos. That said, every once in a blue moon you can find a youtuber that has the knowledge to personal opinion ratio balanced and does a good job in enriching the learning/consuming experience, but those are extremely rare.
The video you posted is okay, maybe below average. Fashion can give you brainrot when you don't have someone to keep you inline hence why she calls herself a "weird girl" or "goth" for whatever reason. With that in mind she is not beyond repair, just needs to stop seeing through the queer/gendered glasses because is clouding her views, should learn to pronounce designer names and work on her enunciation and delivery (it kinda lacks confidence).

No. 1609625

>>1581512
You can count me in on that. The way that if you wash it regardless of how gentle you are, it gets gummy, nasty, stretches out horrifically and gets little holes it in like a cat has been chewing on it.

>>1581427
I miss the whole prairie trend and 70s fashion in general. I look at old pics with great despair, but they are also my motivation to start sewing my own shit since patterns from the 80s-70s go for really cheap. Modern fast fashion is so depressing and boring. I think it's because brands know trends come and go and they a too scared to do something different in fears that they will be left behind. Personally, i think the solution could probably be for some stores to start carrying brands of lesser known designers that all adhere to a specific aesthetic. It would probably only be able to exist in trendy cities or online though which is sad. I miss shopping in store and finding cute clothes.

No. 1610364

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I fuckin love seeing people/celebs wearing Iris Van Herpen. Beyonce wore it at a concert today since she was in Amsterdam. I don't like how obvious the mesh is at some parts but I suppose that can't be helped

No. 1610587

>>1607376
NTA but I'd rather be cornered by her at a party talking about so-and-so designer's A/W '04 line than sit through any second of Hautelamode's vids anytime. I'm not sure if I'd call her an expert, maybe more of an enthusiast. let fashion be for the girls again, I'm sick of men talking about it

No. 1613848

Pharrell's first show as LV's Menswear creative director. I don't really have much of an opinion on the clothes cause I don't care about mens fashion, but the music and choir performance was nice (as expected from Pharrell).

No. 1613856

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>>1613848
Some individual pieces and closeups cause I personally believe they're more interesting than the full looks. Also, I hate to say it but the pixelated camo just reminded me of Minecraft. I really like the boat and black and white pixel bags.

This collection was at least a step up from their cruise collection.

No. 1613859

>>1613856
i don't really care for much for the collection but that black and white pixel bag is amazing ngl

No. 1613864

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>>1613856
Vogue article with all the looks
https://us.louisvuitton.com/eng-us/magazine/articles/men-spring-summer-2024-paris

Some of the individual pieces from this collection are really interesting. Accessories seem to be Pharrell's forte. Despite the full looks being boring, I like this collection a lot more than I thought I would.

No. 1613875

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>>1613864
I like that first yellow look a looot.

No. 1613878

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>>1613875
Last pic, I just wanted to post the minecraft boots and bum bag.

No. 1613893

>>1578721
Very real, hard to read because the sentences run on and are way to verbose though.

No. 1613896

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No. 1613897

>>1581427
Lately I've felt so lost and adrift when it comes to fashion, and I wonder if this is why. Years ago, I could always find styles I loved or wanted to emulate. When shopping at brick and mortar stores or online, there was always SOMETHING that pops out at me where I think "Yes! This is totally me, I love it!" and during the past 3 years or so it's been hard for me to find anything that feels like "me". I feel so bored with fashion now.
I'm also an oldfag who was a teenager in the early 2000s, and the stuff they're touting as "y2k aesthetic" just looks like cheap, shitty Wish.com crap. The stuff we had at the malls in the 2000s was genuinely better quality.

No. 1613898

This might sound stupid, but I miss actual subcultures. I know not everyone fits in a box, but dressing a certain way shows the world how you want to be viewed and where you want to "fit in", and it's easy to make friends that way. Like seeing another girl wearing an outfit you like, and you think "Oh cool, we'd probably hang out in the same crowd and be friends". Not to be dramatic, but it feels like with TikTok trends coming and going so quickly, AND with people not actually socializing in person, it's hard to establish a fashion identity. There are no "third places" outside of school or work, or home. The malls are dead, everyone just socializes on the internet, nobody seems to go to shows or clubs, and there's nowhere to go to "see and be seen". I feel like being a teenager nowadays must suck, it seems stressful and isolating at the same time.

No. 1613902

>>1601537
Didn't you hear nona, we're not allowed to have "For Women, By Women" anymore. Now it's
>FoR aNyOnE pReSeNtInG mAlE WiTh a PeNis aT bIrTh oR fEmAle wItH a VaGiNa aT bIrtH, By AnYoNe pReSenTiNg mAlE WiTh a PeNis aT bIrTh oR fEmAle wItH a VaGiNa aT bIrtH

No. 1613909

>>1578727
I used to dress like this in 2014-15 when I was getting into Wicca and shit, I even let my hair as unkempt as them. Now I'm slowly leaning to this style again because I will never stop loving long a line skirts.

No. 1614284

>>1613856
I really like the sock pouch. It speaks to me.

No. 1614313

>>1613898
Honestly, I feel you nonna. Almost all of my friend in highschool were goths, and I feel like there was something so fun about being in a groups like that. We were always sharing favorite bands and looks and stuff. Even though I think my styling was actually shit, it was still a lot of fun. While I feel like adult life killed off this part of my life, I do think the internet helped contributed to extremely fast fashion, which is a shame.

No. 1614713

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Blazers in the 2010s vs blazers in the 2020s. Both fugly.
I simply think blazers need to be banned and I pray for the day we never see another blazer trend.

No. 1614724

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>>1614713
Literal chills. I hate the floral print. I hate the biker shorts. I could vomit.
Oh, and look at the studded Valentino heels. I also always disliked those, I thought they looked cheap.

No. 1614816

>>1614724
I have never seen anyone dress like the one on the right irl, what would be the occasion for this outfit? Cause I don't particularly like the one on the left but I can see someone going to work or doing other mundane activities in it.

No. 1615055

>>1614816
I've only seen those kinds of outfits on women in cities just going out with their friends or whatever. It looks so awkward irl.

No. 1615070

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This is so fugly. Like derelicte fashion from Zoolander. Do people really like this aesthetic?

No. 1615081

>>1615070
I can imagine Tank Girl or Lisbeth Salander wearing this

No. 1615141

>>1615070
New yorkers

No. 1615259

>>1615055
Can confirm, I see girs going for drinks, shopping and strolling around the city in such outfits.
I got bored of seeing the trendy black white and tan palette after like 3 seconds, god it's so BORING

No. 1615271

>>1614713
So many girls in their teens and twenties dress like the right pic. It's so damn boring I wish they'd dress in their own way.

No. 1615277

>>1615070
Looks really cool but is completely unwearable for anything but a runway or photoshoot
Seems more like an art piece than clothing, like it's inspired by post apocalyptic media

No. 1615278

>>1615070
love it, I won't wear it as it not practical and it's more something for the right festivals, but I love distressed and weathered clothes. If the lower part of the skirt would be a little bit longer, it would have a nice balloon skirt look.

No. 1615552

>>1615070
I think it's really cute actually

No. 1616498

>>1615070
extremely dirty diaper chic

No. 1616762

>>1616498
>>1615070
"Parachute", more like "Parashart" am I right

No. 1618572

>>1613856
>>1613864
The accessories are actually really great, LV is very expensive and ugly but these pieces are fun

No. 1618575

>>1613898
>There are no "third places" outside of school or work, or home.
god this is too real, is it really because of the internet? when I was a teen I would do ANYTHING to get the fuck out of my home to do pretty much nothing and hang out with my friends, but today you can get wifi pretty much anywhere so I wonder why are teens not going out and making up new fashion groups. are afraid to gatekeep?

No. 1618609

>>1618575
nta I think gatekeeping is harder now because there is a huge pressure to put everything on the internet so you have to deal with more people/opinions. If you said anything gatekeep-y in the past you could just continue to hang out with your alreqdy established friendgroup without much drama. Now if you do any gatekeeping you have to deal with messages from a ton of strangers who scolds you for exluding them and that's just too exhausting. Subcultures works best when it's just small local scenes where you could discuss music and fashion. The internet is just too large

No. 1625307

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What do you guys think of Michaela Stark? She's a designer that makes lingerie to emphasis "undesirable" features, like rolls and stretchmarks. I've heard about her a few times.

No. 1625310

>>1625307
I’m seeing a lot of corsets, looks like quirky fetish wear

No. 1625433

>>1625307
that looks exactly like feeder porn

No. 1625450

>>1625307
BDSM gear, doesn't look like lingerie and the rolls and stretchmarks are all filtered to nothing

No. 1625525

>>1625307
are you all ready for the coming generation of groomed/brainrotted female designers? cause I am NOT

No. 1625560

>>1625307
This looks like a bunch of creepy dA fetish drawings with shitty anatomy but photorealistic

No. 1627282

>>1625307
It reminds me of Bellmer and Etsuko Miura's bloated dolls but with a cutesy repaint. It's the kind of thing that makes for "good" art when it's photographed well but freaks everyone out the rest of the time I guess.

No. 1631399

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What are your thoughts on the new Chanel birdcage bag? the NPC's are making a massive deal out of this item

No. 1631401

>>1631399
That looks heavy as hell

No. 1631407

>>1631399
It seems like a pain in the ass to use it, but obviously being practical is of no importance. I wonder if somehow it looks good irl, because it looks like a cheap decoration in all pics I see.

No. 1631413

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>>1631407
Samefag, it looks alright here I guess, it looks cute and whimsical I suppose, if you carry it daintily, as if there were indeed a bird in it. But seeing people dressed casually or as instathots and carrying it like a normal bag, it does not look good.

No. 1631416

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>>1631399
It's very cute, to me Chanel is known for unique bags. Picrel is one of my favs.

No. 1631418

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>>1631416
Samefag, here's more quirky Chanel bags. Also, the birdcage bag isn't actually new. It's from the pre-fall 2020 collection.

No. 1631488

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>>1631413
>But seeing people dressed casually or as instathots and carrying it like a normal bag, it does not look good.
god %100, why would you want to parade it at the mall?? no need to suck the band's dick but this "flex" just doesn't do anyone any favours.

No. 1631490

>>1631418
why is this matryoshka bag not in my hands right now?

No. 1631511

>>1631399
tacky imo

No. 1631526

>>1625307
i hate these porn fueled nlog designers using same ideas over and over. corsets at this points are overdone and all of this quirky shit is boring. same for zoomerified fruits revival shit
>>1631413
it would be cute but execution is terrible.
>>1631488
it looks terrible i get picking a bag like this for like some high profile event to match a ott outfit but not carrying it around daily

No. 1631599

>>1631488
>>1631413
are you seeing real people carry this thing or just instashills and kpops? the picture of the woman with the starbucks there is extra hilarious because it looks like she has a real purse tucked into her giant shirt pocket lol and they probably had her hand the bird cage bag for a brand deal / just to advertise it

No. 1631602

>>1631488
I’d buy a knockoff of this for $50 cause it’s cute but 20k? Kek no

No. 1632057

>>1625307
The one on the left… Pregnant and squatting, perfect for the bippie to tradthot pipeliners. Why does it look frighteningly photoshopped around the waist area though?? Is it just an optical illusion created by the garments? It's hard to tell what's going on when they've filtered/blurred everything to shite.

No. 1632061

>>1614724
I actually like the floral print and think it could work with a more romantic/classical themed outfit, the blaring salmon pink top and distressed capris are not it though.

No. 1632182

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UNPOPULAR OPINION: I actually really like the GG Marmont belt and I want one in pink despite everyone saying it's tacky and outdated

No. 1632199

>>1631399
I think it's cute. Then again I'm a sucker for novelty shaped things

No. 1632254

>>1632182
they say outdated I say iconic, that is a stacy staple piece, don't let anyone tell you otherwise

No. 1632258

>>1632182
Looking at it in this pic it’s cute. But then I imagine it actually on pants and it just looks retarded.

No. 1632576

>>1631418
The matryoshka bag……….I would carry that bitch harder than a Qaeda member carrying a bomb

No. 1633114

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Think this fits in this threadsince it's fast fashion. Shein just got hit with a RICO for stealing designs,

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shein-lawsuit-rico-violations/

>Shein is a popular online destination for social influencers and shoppers to stock up on trendy yet affordable clothing, but a new lawsuit alleges that the site maintains its edge by engaging in "egregious" copyright infringement that constitutes racketeering.


>The complaint was filed on Tuesday in California federal court on behalf of three designers who claimed they were as "surprised" and "outraged" to see their products faithfully copied and sold by the Chinese fast-fashion retailer.


>The reproduced products weren't "close call" copies, where designs are interpreted with some liberties, but were "truly exact copies of copyrightable graphic design" that were sold by Shein, the lawsuit alleges. The company allegedly engages in a pattern of copyright infringement as part of its effort to produce 6,000 new items each day for its millions of customers. That amounts to a violation of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, or RICO, the claim alleges.


>"Shein has grown rich by committing individual infringements over and over again, as part of a long and continuous pattern of racketeering, which shows no sign of abating," the suit alleges.

No. 1633120

>>1633114
Samefag, a little more from the article. This is news to me, did anyone else think Shein was started by a woman?

>Part of the challenge in pursuing Shein in court is its decentralized, even byzantine, structure, the lawsuit noted.


>Shein "is a loose and ever-changing (though still continuous even as some individual elements might change to be replaced by others) association-in-fact of entities and individuals," the lawsuit stated. Designers without an attorney "face an utter brick wall," the lawsuit added, noting that even people with lawyers by their side can struggle to find "an appropriate defendant."


>Shein was founded in 2012 by Chinese entrepreneur Chris Xu, also known as Xu Yangtian, who is valued at more than $10 billion by Forbes. But not much is known about him, according to The Guardian, which noted the different reports about his background, with some stories describing him as a Chinese-American who studied at George Washington University, while others say he was born in Shandong in 1984 and studied at Qingdao University of Science and Technology.


>"There is no Coco Chanel or Yves Saint Laurent behind the Shein empire. Rather, there is a mysterious tech genius, Xu Yangtian aka Chris Xu, about whom almost nothing is known," the lawsuit alleges.

No. 1633164

>>1633114
>>1633120
fina-fucking-lly, I hope JINX hops on the bandwagon while is hot, they have been stealing her shit for years KEK

No. 1633165

>>1633114
>its effort to produce 6,000 new items each day for its millions of customers
what the fuck

No. 1633235

>>1633165
There’s a reason shein/romwe is significantly worse than other “fast fashion” retailers like Marshall’s, Burlington, even H&M and even F21. I have plenty of clothing from all of those stores that have held up very well for many years. The two coats I bought from H&M in 2013 will likely never need to be replaced (a heavy and classic looking wool coat, and a classic black windbreaker with a high quality black faux fur trim. I have shitty polyester dresses from F21 that have lasted me a decade+ by washing in garment bags on gentle and hanging to dry. Even treating my shein shits with respect like that they fall apart immediately or look and feel like garbage immediately out of the package.

The only thing shein/romwe is good for are their cheap lingerie - stuff you’re not supposed to wear for more than like an hour at a time. And the occasional weird statement piece like a low quality plush bag you’ll wear a couple times.

No. 1633263

>>1633235
I've never experienced the thing with shein clothing falling apart (I have some pieces that I still wear, even), but I can second the material being crap and with my last purchase from Shein the jeans had such a strange smell that I couldn't get off. Some of the shirts I purchased from there literally felt like swimsuit material. I would only say it's worth it if you're really, really broke but even then the clothes have literally been found to have high amounts of lead, so you might as well just spend a little extra at one of the other fast fashion stores that are less likely to give you lead poisioning.

No. 1633266

>>1633235
I'd like to say that i think what makes the shit quality of fast fashion so bad is that most people don't take care of their clothes the way that you do. They just throw it in the wash and wonder why it looks like shit, therefore adding to the piles of shit in the landfill filled with fades clothes and heavy pilling that you can fix without ripping the garment. Traditional fast fashion brands typically cater to normies who just want basic shit and want to be minorly trendy whilst i personally think that most of the stuff on shein is literally unwearable and barely qualifies as actual clothing.

No. 1633324

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Lol, lmao

No. 1633357

>>1633235
>>1633263
>>1633266
just out of curiosity, do you buy shein solely because is cheap or do the designs attract you?

No. 1633555

>>1633357
I was just broke when I was buying shein and went with the cheapest option. I haven't bought their clothes in a long time and don't plan to again, but I have bought some smaller items (charms) more recently.

No. 1633574

>>1633266
That used to be true but these days there's no high quality clothing for women at any price point. Spend $20 or $500, you get the same tissue-paper thin, untailored white collared shirt either way. The $500 one might have an ugly embroidered tag in the back that you can see through the shirt though.

No. 1633587

>>1633574
I bought an H&M dress a while ago. Wore it once. Left it hanging in my closet. Next time I reached for it it was already fraying at the neckline.
I have some things from 2013/2014 from fast fashion like Pull&Bear and Mango, they're still in good condition. I have a jacket from Jennyfer that I bought early 2013, and I get compliments on it and get asked where I bought it. It's still in good condition. It seems like some time after 2017 fast fashion dropped significantly in quality. Now things barely last a couple of months before fraying at the seams. It's been a while since I bought anything; it's mostly been thrifts/old clothes from the 80s/90s that are holding up better than anything. I don't know where to buy anything anymore, especially that I'm not in the US. I'm thinking of buying good fabric and looking for a tailor.

No. 1633600

>>1633587
I have a 2014 H&M jacket that I still wear and it looks brand new. I cannot find a single flaw, and I was looking very carefully. The new H&M stuff falls apart way, way faster. Almost as if they do it on purpose.

No. 1633641

>>1633587
>Next time I reached for it it was already fraying at the neckline.

New law: Clothing designers and manufacturers who allow this to happen get hanged. That's bullshit.

No. 1633685

>>1633587
I noticed all the fast fashion I bought in 2013/2014 is still good to go and I bought a lot of clothes then because I finally had enough money to stop wearing shit from middle school. I almost only buy things from Uniqlo nowadays because they have my size most of the time and the quality is good, when I go to H&M or Zara I can see almost everything is trash that lasts for one or two wears, yet the prices are getting higher.

No. 1633689

>>1633574
I completely agree with you on that. Working with second hand clothes has definitely made me notice how dire the situation is.
>>1633357
I've only bought shein once, not clothing though, some satin scarves that i use everyday. I wouldn't bother with shein for clothes at all. Normally when i buy clothes i usually only buy from weekday because i've never had issues with their quality.

No. 1633805

>>1633600
I've noticed the same thing. I've been getting rid of a bunch of the old stuff I wore in highschool and replacing them so I can have an adult wardrobe, but the quality is so shit now. I like shopping at ASOS because most of their clothes fit my vibe but the material on some of their original design dresses are so thin for the price. A year or two ago I bought a pair of high waisted jeans from Charlotte russe and the zipper already broke. Where the hell do I get semi reasonably priced clothes now? It like you're either forced to go buy SheIn crap because at least you didn't spend that much when your clothes disintegrate in half a year, or you gotta go find some obscure overpriced brand that will probably pull a bait and switch because no one's buying their $50 tee shirts.

No. 1633806

>>1633805
I go thrifting, but I even see a lot of Shein crap when thrifting. Never bought from them, tried on one of their outfits when thrifting out of curiosity, quality was sheer crap.

You can still find some good stuff when thrifting, you just need to hunt for it. I find that denim I buy holds up better, unless that's not your style

No. 1633852

File: 1689371148681.jpg (89.83 KB, 735x776, CHRISTIAN DIOR.jpg)

I'm surprised no one has asked this before but nonnas, do you have any dream pieces? Another question, what would your dream wardrobe be/look like? Pics are appreciated and it doesn't have to be high fashion of course. I'm so curious about the tastes of farmers.

No. 1633997

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>>1633852
I've always wanted something from Alexander McQueen (I've loved him since I was a child) but I fell in a rut after his passing and only now decided to check out what Sarah is doing. I so want this dress, I would wear it every, single, day, of my life.

No. 1634032

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I forgot to add my picture, but my dream items would be tabis, rocking horse shoes (official ones) and maybe some shoes from carol christian poell, but that's probably never going to happen or i'd find myself settling for something with a similar vibe that is significantly cheaper and that i can try on and return if i have to.

No. 1634036

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probably a massive longshot and impossible, but is anyone able to ID the watch worn in this pic?
or perhaps recommend a similar watch

No. 1634063

File: 1689387041088.jpeg (130.31 KB, 750x1125, IMG_7625.jpeg)

>>1633852
I have a bucket list
>chanel 90s skirt and blazer top set (similar to picrel)
>tom ford leather motorcycle jacket and suit jacket (I know they gear more towards men but I love love love love this brand's jackets)
>moschino rainbow blazer and tshirt dress
>small quilted black chanel purse
>burberry plaid skirt
>versache dress

No. 1634103

>>1633587
I have an H&M t-shirt, a blouse and a coat from 2014 still that are in genuinely good shape! Meanwhile I bought a dress in 2021 and a button fell off and a hem unraveled the second time I wore it

No. 1634105

>>1633997
I LOVE this

No. 1634115

>>1633997
I've never owned any McQueen, just looked at pictures, but from what I could see after he died Sarah Burton did not drop the ball at all.

No. 1634259

>>1634032
great taste nonna

No. 1634551

File: 1689443838248.jpg (51.12 KB, 506x768, Vivienne Westwood Shoes - Leat…)

>>1634032
I love those rocking horse shoes. It seems that they're pretty popular with lolitas and imo that's when they're the cutest.

No. 1634554

>>1634032
Those shoes are horrible. They look like those weird shoes that every scrotes on 4chan loved on the fashion board years ago but for women.

No. 1634572

>>1634551
I used to think these were ugly when I first got onto lolita and one day it's like a switch flipped in my brain and I love them now. I only ever had a pair or replicas but my dream pair are the VW ones in red. One day.

No. 1634590

>>1634554
Martin Margiela made the first pair in 1983 and their debut was in 1989. During the first decade of his career he had to reuse the same shoes in several runways by painting them with wall paint because he didn't couldn't afford new shoes. He made multiple different versions of his tabi shoe throughout his career under the Maison Margiela house before stepping down in 2009. It wasn't until 2017, when John Galiano (trying to be Rei Kawakubo and rick owens homunculus child) brought back the tabi shoes, that all the Tumblr fashionistas and wannabes wanted a piece of the "new fresh eccentric" item of the decade. if scrotes wanna suck on whatever rehashed crumbs from washed out trenders of the moment that's on them, it pretty much a testament that they don't understand what they wanna wear or why they wanna wear it. At least pay some respect to the item and know its history.
Regardless of you giving a fuck or not is important to know what you are criticising

No. 1634746

File: 1689459792304.jpg (372.95 KB, 1096x842, fashion.jpg)

>>1633852
I'd basically would like my wardrobe to look two very different ways, like picrel, I'm just torn between this elegant look and the dirty, destroyed goth look, kek. I don't have special garments I'd like to own. If I were rich, I wouldn't care, but I'm not, so I can't justify the price for stuff I can make myself. Only stuff on my list are some Alexander Wang and Omtura bags and shoes from Ann Demeulemeester and so on

No. 1634812

>>1634590
Nta, but very interesting. Thank you for sharing anon, I never knew this.

No. 1635149

>>1634590
>At least pay some respect to the item and know its history.
Everything has a history. It doesn't change the fact that those shoes are in my opinion horrible.

No. 1637784

File: 1689771565621.png (1.08 MB, 959x1762, Screenshot_20230719-145935.png)

the y2k revival trend has gone too far

No. 1637794

>>1631399
>>1631413
Looks cheap, but maybe that's just the photos? I think the bags in >>1631418 are much more fun and don't look like goldfill is going to chip off at any moment.

>>1637784
Bitch are those culottes??? Julottes, no less?
The Y2K revvival trend is only good when it's the tacky rhinestone heiress or MIB-ish "futuristic" styles. Or like…crimp your hair and wear a tight polo, that's way more acceptable than this. Why are the kids picking the ugliest shit to emulate?

No. 1639065

>>1637784
Replace the shoes with sneakers and this is my exact gas station run fit.

No. 1639107

>>1637784
this woman is so annoying and believes in HAES

No. 1639120

>>1639107
>she believes in HAES
give me one fat woman on youtube that doesn't

No. 1639128

>>1637784
Kek, I've seen so many of her shorts. Her style and her attitude is awful, but it's entertaining to watch her put together one disaster after the other even for someone who isn't interested in fashion. What's up with her constant need to leave her belts unbuckled?

No. 1639142

>>1637784
I might be too stupid or don't understand today's fashion, but why is that belt too small and she can't close it?
And maybe only 1% of the fat people in the 2000s would have worn that shit, most would have been ashamed to be that big and show too much skin, just saying as someone being alive at that time.

No. 1640117

>>1637784
Back in the early 2000s she would have weighed four Stone less.

No. 1640913

>>1637784
this isn't even y2k, this is st. johns bay-core and stupid

No. 1640924

File: 1690054176611.jpg (55.18 KB, 439x748, belt.JPG)

>>1637784
I feel like this thread deserves to see some more of her outfits.

No. 1640927

>>1640924
Something about this is very southern hooker-ish. I think it's the skirt plus boots that give me that deep south lady of the night feel.

No. 1640938

>>1640927
Yes, very human trafficking-core, especially the vest + bra thing + exposed skirt

No. 1641022

File: 1690062046434.jpg (168.13 KB, 560x700, jpgsatanbagwhitebg-1_webp.jpg)

>>1633852
This Gaultier bag

No. 1641027

>>1641022
Is that seitan

No. 1641029

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No. 1641085

>>1641029
seitan > soy meat replacements

No. 1641465

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>>1641022
this looks like its from the leather stall at the county fair, hanging next to picrel

No. 1641551

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>>1641465
Yeah but these are pleather and don't have satan on them
I also want picrel for balance

No. 1641982

>>1641551
This one is much cooler and less corny, shame the other one is shaped like a lunchbag

No. 1642501

>>1641551
I want it, I need it

No. 1657354

recently found out schiaparelli was closely related to dadaism!!1

No. 1665440

File: 1692111125209.jpg (111.31 KB, 649x854, xyz.jpg)

Can I get an ID on this skirt?

No. 1670076

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No. 1679461

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I've noticed that the current generation of "fashionistas" rely solely on brand names for dressing up. They don't know anything about clothing shapes or cuts, let alone fabrics. If they see a photo of a random white button up shirt that is styled for the shoot in a pleasant way they go "BrAND?!?!?" like is just a random ass white button up shirt. They don't seem to realise that a brand name doesn't guarantee quality most of the time and the price tag doesn't justify it. I would expect that from your everyday normie and even they buy clothes from Walmart that is more likely than not made in their home country, so unironically, they dress in better quality material clothes than these "fashion" obsessed weirdos kek. Even if they go "vintage hunting" or thrifting, they don't know shit about fabric nor production quality, they'll get some made in china bullshit and think they're ahead of the curb or whatever they're on. Surprisingly this is showing on different age groups, from teenager to people well over their 30's, which is just plain sad. picrel unrelated, just thought it looked psychotic

No. 1682095

File: 1693355740262.jpg (2.53 MB, 6340x2691, gucci.jpg)

What are some trends (current or past) that you despise, anons? For me, it's the quilted flap Chanel bags (yes even the Boy bags, even though those are better than other quilt Chanel bags) and the gucci belts. Some of the Chanel bags just look so flimsy and cheap. Unfortunately I don't think they will ever go out of style, but at least the gucci belts are dated and fading away. With the gucci belts, I think the logo is just so ostentatious. They're just huge, like a damn wrester belt. Some of the Hermes belts have the same problem.
With that being said, I don't agree with the popular opinion that a lot of people buy these to look rich. I mean with the Gucci belts that was definitely the case but I think the Chanel bags are just one of those items that people like to buy to have something nice, which is fine.

No. 1682102

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>>1682095
Samefag, I need to add another example of what I mean when I say the Chanel flaps look flimsy. Doesn't this literally look like you could rip it like a piece of paper?
It's unfortunate that Chanel is never gonna get rid of the quilts cause it's a trademark design that instantly screams Chanel. Unlike the tweed, it's just fug and other designer brands have done it better.

No. 1682117

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>>1682095
the ruching and stringy front top trend where it was used in the tackiest, raunchiest and cheapest ways. It was literally hoe couture for normies, I really, really hate it.
>>1682102
Also I agree with you, quilted anything looks instantly fugly, but again it does scream Chanel.

No. 1682128

>>1640117
in the early 2000s she would've been bullied for looking like that and would have never worn that outfit again lmao

No. 1682511

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>>1682117
Tbh, I liked those tops like the white one. I wouldn't have ever dared to wear one myself though. In regards to ruching, I think the only ruching trend I liked was the dresses that would have ruching only across the breast. I HATED these gym pants with the butt ruching. It just looks like the person wearing them has a bootyhole so strong it sucked in the pants.

No. 1682599

>>1682117
agreed about the stringy tops. especially like that yellow one on the bottom right. that's not a shirt, sorry. wear a cute little lace camisole under it or something and you're fine.

No. 1682751

>>1682117
Top right is kind of cute though.

No. 1682776

>>1682751
i'm glad someone else likes it because i have a very similar style of shirt but in green and as a tanktop, i think it's adorable but i havent had a chance to wear it yet kek

No. 1682784

File: 1693422518521.png (176.31 KB, 339x576, designer crap.png)

>>1682095
I hate anything where the brand logo is the main/only decoration. It just looks so tacky no matter what it is.

No. 1682892

>>1682511
>bootyhole so strong it sucked in the pants.
KEK it does look like that tho, also how unhygienic would these yoga pants be. Assholes sweat and unless you are a bottom fag I'm sure the ppl using them aren't douching, so that ruched part of the pants is soaking in butt sweat and feces.

No. 1682938

>>1682784
Genuinely just the ugliest garbage imaginable. LV monogram is always the worst though.

No. 1684970

Why the fuck is it impossible to find basic cotton tank tops and camisoles any more? I swear to god I'm treating my ten year old mossimo long and lean tanks like a precious finite resource now, holy shit, I went into target the other day and all the camisoles were made of fucking nylon! NYLON!!! REEEEEEEE

No. 1685060

>>1682095
People who wear the gucci stripes and double g logo on anything are definitely compensating for something. I've experienced this irl and gucci owns a lot of much pricier, discreet items with no logos so they could've bought that but deliberately chose not to. Speaks volumes.

I'm sure I'll offend some gen z-tards and people who sit around daydreaming about ~omg aesthetics~ without actually immersing themselves in real life but for trends I hate, those sweetheart neckline milkmaid tops that were in every store last year randomly, ugly ass gen z looks that came from the 2019 depop era like the they/them wolf cut and cargo pants (or any type of fake "i'm alt and edgy but only basic and vaguely" without being apart of any real counterculture. the word poseur comes to mind), y2k fashion, pants that are way too baggy like 90s baggy because they just don't flatter anyone and grunge is dead, balletcore (if you don't do ballet then this is just embarrassing. if you have money to spend on trendy clothes, you definitely have money to spend it on a class, more poseur shit).
And I was just thinking recently how it's nice to not see everyone's buttcrack and underwear lines exposed in their uncovered leggings. I mean real workout leggings are fine if you genuinely just came back from the gym or some athletic activity but I'm so glad I don't have to see everyone's rolls, cooch, and near anus in those basic black knit leggings everyone wore as a substitute for pants for some reason in the 2010s. Unfortunately, bras as a substitute for a shirt has now replaced this and it's so trashy.

>>1682117
God I agree these are so hideous. Bottom right is so weird because it's obvious it's just a cardigan that's meant to go over a camisole as a coverup and not as a literal shirt. Anything for the male gaze though ig.

No. 1685065

>>1685060
Gen Z doesn't usually prefer pieces with logomania patterns, older women and men are the ones I've seen wearing these fits. The way the gucci belt used to be super popular on social media in 2010s is a good example.

No. 1685067

>>1682117
Those are all layering pieces(aside from top right). You're supposed to wear a taanktop under those, not styled that way in product pics cause it'd be hard to see the piece if they wore something under it.

No. 1685068

>>1685065
I never said gen z preferred logomania.

No. 1685074

>>1682117
off topic moralfagging but the amount of teenage girls i saw wearing shirts like this during the hotter months is disturbing. i saw more teenagers wearing this than adult women
>>1685060
>Anything for the male gaze though
I don't get why a teenage boy's default summer shirt is a loose-fitting cotton tshirt while a teenage girl's default summer shirt is a tight, stringy top that exposes as much skin as possible no hope for women

No. 1685077

>>1685074
See >>1685067
Most of those are layering pieces, not shirts.

No. 1685082

>>1685077
Nta but k yeah we know that. They should be modelled as layering pieces then because the general public is retarded enough to start wearing this as a top with absolutely nothing underneath.

No. 1685136

>>1685082
You might be right, never thought of people wearing them on their own. The only time I'd think it'd be appropriate to wear them without layering is if you're wearing them on top of bikini for beach vacations or as clubwear.

No. 1685654

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>>1682095
I really hate the current white sock + chunky black shoe combo. It makes you look special needs, No matter who is wearing it. The only way in my mind to salvage it is to wear something feminine that isn't completely disconnected to it, but no one does that and my town is filled with these randomised sims with chunky sped shoes and white frilly socks

No. 1685658

>>1685136
nta but I've solely seen young women and worse yet children wear them like that, no undershirt, no bra, is fucking dismaying.

No. 1694234

i find any attempt to relaunch helmut lang's label pathetic and it's literally beating a dead horse. all recent revivals were such americanized takes and minimizing lang's design legacy to few random straps and slits while ignoring construction and tailoring. helmut was an european in the us which influenced his clothing, he brought this type of european cool in the 90s to the states. having an american as creative director of his label is literally shitting on the brand. i find this announcent film for peter do's tenure as creative director shitty nostalgia bait, one with this crown vic nyc taxi. i wish everyone let helmut's label stay dead forever.

honestly only good choice for helmut would be raf doing what he did for calvin klein rather having him wreck prada and miu miu. miuccia truly lost her mind when she picked him as her helper.

No. 1694239

>>1694234
A relaunch would never work. The industry will never be as it was, and I'd be surprised if we get any new innovative designers any time soon given the influx of dropshipping slave labor clothes at easy access. Ingenuity isn't rewarded anymore, it's replicated and sold for $5

No. 1694458

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>>1682095
I really don't like the Scandinavian minimalist "clean girl" trend, it's really boring and makes everyone look like an NPC.
I live in a Nordic city and everyone dresses the same unoriginal way, black leather jacket + white top + jeans or black flare leggings + chunky white sneakers + slicked back hair in a tiny bun. Bonus if the girl has obvious lip filler and gloopy lip gloss on. Plus either a big canvas tote or a Y2K-style hobo bag. It looked nice the first few months and on a few people, now it's starting to look like freaking Aryan Tomie.

No. 1694526

>>1694234
Raf Simons could be a good choice as he is good with small scale interesting concepts and his design style doesn't clash with Helmut's. Also yes this current forced revival of pretty much every 90's brand is so fucking unnecessary, why is everyone so adamant on keeping shit alive way past their peak?
>miuccia truly lost her mind when she picked him as her helper.
abso-fucking-lutely, at this point I don't even think these "new fresh designers" are solely risk averse, thus why they make the most watered down shit, but simply they're just that mediocre and are in that position because of lucky timing and capital.

No. 1694527

>>1694458
>flare leggings
lord take me out for good this time, I'm so lucky I haven't encountered any of ALL that in the wild or I'd lose my goddamn mind

No. 1694585

>>1694527
They're everywhere here and especially young girls like them because they make your butt look better. They're so popular that I've yet to see a single teenager/young adult/grown adult who doesn't own the black so called "hoe pants" from Gina Tricot. People here are so scared of wearing anything that isn't monochrome black and white, unless it's cheap SheIn clubwear.

No. 1694714

File: 1694465438349.jpg (461.24 KB, 620x1024, mcqueenss11runway15.jpg)

Sarah Burton is leaving Alexander McQueen after a decade as creative director. Before becoming director, she worked with McQueen himself for about 10 years. Pretty unfortunate cause she's really a great designer. Here's something from her debut solo collection, Spring/Summer 2011.

No. 1694729

>>1694714
NOOOOOOO WHY??'' this is hell, hell on earth

No. 1694731

>>1694714
Samefag, but does anyone else wonder why so many designers are leaving? Tom Ford, Ricardo Tisci, Jeremy Scott just to name a few but there's been many more.

No. 1694754

File: 1694468600546.png (52.61 KB, 634x422, Big Bucks.PNG)

>>1694731
It seems to be that they have to compete against fast fashion giants like shein. I can imagine them being done with having to design ugly chunky white sneakers and nasty leggings for the masses, both who can't and can afford it, all the time.

No. 1694760

>>1694527
>hoe pants
>cheap Shein clubwear
what a horror show, this is some new age mental illness, "I gotta show all the goods while at the same time being terrified of calling attention with my clothing" like what is going on??? is so strange wanting to look "put together" while at the same time having your ass painted on you for all to see.

No. 1694765

>>1694760
>hoe pants
They're just yoga pants anon.

No. 1694766

>>1694765
my bad, I mean to reply to >>1694585

No. 1824639

i'm tired of wannabe "writers" who never get published in print who sperg out about intellectualizing everything and shoving politics into everything. i miss old fashion writing that was actually about fashion. i hate retards obsessed with "fashion theory". they all are like rejects who failed either at being a proper fashion journalist, stylist, designer or photographer. so they ended resorting to mincing words

No. 1824646

>>1694714
This dress is so gorgeous and gives me Hunger Games vibes. I am so sad about this. So many designers are leaving such important fields. Everything is gonna be beige and white mass produced garbage now

>>1694754
Luxury designs are finally feeling the recession, I suppose.

No. 1824652

>>1694765
People were wearing yoga pants regularly until like 2013. Why does the collective consciousness have a shorter memory span? I still wear my yoga pants from 2008. To me, leggings have always looked cheaper to me as compared to flared leggings. I guess it reminds me of the beginnings of recession fashion where people wore cheap cheap clothes which was before shein.

No. 1824661

>>1824652
flared leggings felt as halfassed attempt to bring back pants without waistband from 00s for me, but nowadays everyone is used to everything being shitty knit fabrics so this monstority was born out of it. but they look bad compared to pants of this type sewn from a woven fabric. would love myself some sewn from quality wool or silk.

No. 1824787

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>>1824646
Haha, that actually is the exact dress! The wardrobe design in The Hunger Games is ready good. I haven't seen the prequel that just came out yet, but I hope it's just as good

No. 1824914

>>1685654
I wish people who wanted to wear socks with chunky shoes knew that they don't always have to go for white. It just seems like they explicitly wanted to copy a fit they saw instead of using their heads. I think these bright white socks ruin a lot of outfits when they don't compliment the overall pallette of the outfit.

No. 1824926

>>1824787
I refuse to see the prequel because it looks like woke shit. They even have that tranny in it. I loved the first 3 movies though, and thought they did a good job adapting the books. The books are still better though imo.

No. 1825350

Nonnies I am fat and kinda tall (5'9") - any recommendations on pants that don't look stupid? My legs are well toned, but big. Currently I just resort to leggings

No. 1825356

>>1825350
You should post in the /g/ fashion thread anon. See the last sentence in the OP

No. 1825411

>>1825356
Sorry nonnas, forgive my insolence

No. 1825431

>>1825411
It's no problemo

No. 1827312

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