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No. 1450970

>What is the antiwork movement?
The antiwork movement speaks out against worker exploitation, toxic workplace cultures and bad management. Depending on who you ask, the antiwork movement can mean anything between the complete abolishment of paid labor, to a complete restructure of the workplace for a fairer, less exploitative one. As the most recent economic crisis thanks to the pandemic develops, more and more people are associating with contemporary labor movements including joining an union, mass quitting, and the shifting of jobs towards new and more fulfilling careers. Not everyone who is antiwork is completely against working or earning money, but hustle and grind culture is extremely criticized. Please use this thread to talk about anything related to the antiwork movement. You can also share your experiences or your personal outlook on the matter. Please also note that the antiwork movement has become a global phenomenon that expands itself across generational divides and classes, it's not just exclusive of working class millenials and gen z.

No. 1450973

>basically r/antiwork
go back go back go back go back

No. 1450982

>>1450973
it's not the same, we can have this discussion here and not reddit, I hate reddit too as much as everyone else. Antiwork is a proven mass movement irl at this point too, and I've seen a lot of anons criticizing the hustle grind culture. There's nothing wrong with having this here, GC and PP reddits existed at some point too you know. Also I don't even use that website, I thought the thread would be cool here with anons perspectives.

No. 1450984

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anyways fuck work.

No. 1450986

>>1450973
you're dumb if you think wanting a better workplace is a reddit only thing.

No. 1450988

>>1450973
ok and we also have millenial and gen z hate threads, your point? kek

No. 1450990

>>1450970
i just dont know why people work anymore unless you are obligated by choosing to have responsabilities like children. You are wasting your time otherwise.

No. 1450991

>>1450990
Probably because we would be unable to pay the bills and would go homeless?

No. 1450992

>>1450990
How else are you going to afford housing, food and other costs?

No. 1450997

I quite literally sell drugs to make money and dropped out the workforce ages ago. If employment can't adjust to the modern society it deserves to die

No. 1450998

>>1450991
>>1450992
i am just waiting until my mom dies so i can anhero i would rather die that live just to work

No. 1450999

>>1450990
not everyone has rich parents nonny.

No. 1451000

>>1450970
Go back to Reddit.

Or maybe actually say what’s wrong with work spaces and companies and workers’ rights being abused and not repeat here weird content that gives off “reee all sort of working is bad, I wanna do nothing and have money” vibes.

To my knowledge, antiwork somehow manages to still be more of a cringe movement than do anything actually good for workers.

No. 1451003

>>1450997
Selling drugs? Should I congratulate you? Stop destroying your life and others’ lives.

No. 1451005

>>1450998
I don't like the way society is (barely) functioning in regards to work either but many women don't have the choice but to work. I don't think killing yourself is the answer either, that is also just a waste of your time and life

No. 1451006

I don't really get the concept of antiwork, but it does kind of piss me off that the default is 40 hours a week, almost no matter the activity. My job is good in that I have almost no oversight and they don't expect much of me, but I have to be clocked in for 40 hours a week. I could do the same work in 10 hours to be honest, and I take up the rest of my time on reddit or going for coffee or looking for other jobs, but I can't get too invested in anything as I need to look a bit busy. Sometimes I resent just how much time is wasted when I could be doing literally anything else.

It's funny because there's a zoomer in the office who's kind of in the same mindset but he works fast to do the same stuff we all space out then sits back and doesn't do anything, which is not how it works. It's a shame because the metrics are easily measured and everyone can see he's done the same amount of work we all do. He's been bollocked for it twice and now just works more than us. Yet he's still called lazy by all of our coworkers, just because he didn't adhere to the silent rule of always look like you might be busy. It's really bullshit.

No. 1451008


No. 1451010

>>1451003
Sorry not everyone is privileged as you. I live in a right to work state and was isolated most of my life so have the social skills of a retard, this led to me legally getting fired over and over for being too awkward and quiet. Selling weed is the only thing that allowed me to escape a cycle of being abused by my parents and then living with an abusive boyfriend at the time

No. 1451014

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I agree with some of the sentiments and specifically the grievances of antiwork but I think its overall a pointless ideology and fails to acknowledge that most human beings need something in their lives otherwise they start decaying and degenerating
how about making new thread based on Work Reform

No. 1451015

>>1451010
>>has the social skills to be a drug dealer. Doesn’t have the social skills to work retail.

No. 1451016

>>1451010
you had the social skills of a retard and was a plug? how?

No. 1451018

>>1451005
nah, there isnt a point to living anymore, even creative works like art or writting arent free from the corporate claws of automation. We earn less than 10 years ago despite automation making things easier and faster. I honestly dont know why people live anymore, seems selfish to keep bringing kids to this world. I only live because i enjoy working on my passion projects and drawing, so i see no point in wasting the rest of my life working, for what really?

No. 1451019

>>1451006
I agree. If you can complete a task to good quality and acceptable standards quicker than other people then you shouldn't be made to wait around all day just to fill the 40h a week quota. It's so much wasted time. They've done countless tests and proven that reducing the work hour week to like 35 or 30 actually increases productivity and gets the same result with the bonus of people having more free time. But they want everyone to be wageslaves.

When I first started my current job (WFH bookkeeping for a relative) I felt immense guilt because I wasn't working 40h a week and felt like everyone assumed I was lazy because that hustle/grind mindset is instilled into you. I don't make big bucks off of it but it is far more enjoyable than having to clock in to a 12 hour shift for the 3rd day in a row and then getting absolutely shafted via taxes that aren't even going to anything useful in society.

No. 1451024

>>1451010
I don't get why anons are getting upset over such an entrepreneur. Do they want people to work or not?

No. 1451027

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>>1451024
they hate to see a girlboss winning

No. 1451028

>>1451015
NTAYRT but doesn't most of the drug deal talk happen online? I was a socially anxious retard at one point and talking on the internet was ez but I would shit my pants if I had to talk to a cashier, if anon does most of the stuff online then I get her point. You could just be one of those online chat helpers though.

No. 1451029

>>1451015
Most employers now are very high school cliquey in my experience, if you don't fit in you will eventually get fired. Selling drugs just requires interactions and people aren't going to back out of a sale just because you're awkward, you're insecure, you're too quiet, etc. Obviously I can talk and converse but everytime I was fired it was the same "you're just not confident" over and over again, I was even kicked from a program I spent 3k on despite doing the job perfectly all because and made straight As on paper, and I quote, "you just need to build your confidence", after hands on trails. Closed door after closed door I was just done and figured selling drugs was easier and would pay me tons better and it did

No. 1451031

>>1451014
Yeah, there's plenty of things to be said about "bullshit jobs", shitty hiring practices, organizational cultures. It shouldn't be about NEETs and scam artists saying "working is dumb, why would you work". Gives me the same feeling as tumblr communists asking who wants to make a commune, and then they all want to be art teachers and alternative healers, but no one's working the fields.

No. 1451035

>>1451031
Hard work is for people that get feel good tinglies from making somebody else richer and feeling "useful". Does nothing for me personally. If there's a way to get by doing less or nothing at all I absolutely will especially when I see disproportionate rewards for effort

No. 1451036

>>1451031
This is a very small subsect of people involved in the anti work community though, most of them are employed and would be happy to work but are tired of how the current working conditions are.

No. 1451042

>>1451035
As you should. I use to work 60-80 hour work weeks and nothing came of it except lost time, a fucked up back, and at best a few extra bucks and a "she's so hard working" comment. I still won't be able to retire comfortably or buy a home.

No. 1451044

>>1451035
Everyone should be striving to work smarter, not harder. The whole "just keep on working hard and you'll get somewhere" is fucking bullshit. The entire system is rigged. If we actually received appropriate wages for working hard I would be all for it but we don't.

No. 1451045

made a less retarded(and more realistic and plausible) alternative

>>>/ot/1451043
>>>/ot/1451043
>>>/ot/1451043

No. 1451046

>>1451014
>most human beings need something in their lives otherwise they start decaying and degenerating
ever since my mom retired her quality of life has tanked. she just drinks and watches law and order all day, and doesnt socialize outside of the family because the only time she used to see other ppl was thru work. she's in her late 50s and perfectly able-bodied so there arent any reasons for her not to work besides being ~retired~

plenty of people need to work because theyre incapable of managing their time/lives otherwise

No. 1451048

>>1451035
Ah, yes, the only two options in life: working yourself to death or mooching off wellfare/parents

No. 1451053

>>1451048
imagine thinking mooching off the state is something bad, lol

No. 1451055

>>1451000
>“reee all sort of working is bad, I wanna do nothing and have money” vibes.
that's not what antiwork is retard

No. 1451056

>>1451045
wow congratulations idiot that's the same fucking thing that antiwork is

No. 1451060

>>1451046
Your mom being socially inept doesn't meant everyone else needs to work until they die kek

No. 1451063

>>1451055
>uhhh nonnies r/antiwork is not the same as not working

No. 1451064

>>1451046
how do you end up like this? i remember when every normie was bored during lockdown meanwhile i learned blender, read a lot of books, and drew a lot. Is this work brainrot?

No. 1451066

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Idk why the fuck all the girlbosses got so assmad about a thread like this KEK not everyone who is antiwork wants to be a NEET, people simply want better wages and to live out of their dream career without having to work forever at wallmart

No. 1451067

>>1451063
literally read the OP

No. 1451071

>>1451060
i must have struck a nerve cause your reply is needlessly defensive

No. 1451072

>>1451071
If you think that's defensive you should see the rest of the internet

No. 1451073

>>1451046
>ever since my mom retired her quality of life has tanked. she just drinks and watches law and order all day,
KEKKKK that just sounds like your mom's problem, tell her to read a fucking book or learn how to sew, not everyone is the same girl

No. 1451074

>>1451066
>live out of their dream career
90% nonnies being an "Artist".

No. 1451077

>>1451073
Yeah my mom got into a work accident and lives off of disability and shops, cooks, puts together puzzles and chills with her dog and talks to friends all day and she loves it. Someone who can't structure their own life without a job is retarded and needs to grow up

No. 1451078

>>1451053
Ideally you'd either have lower taxes so workers can actually be well compensated, or have those taxes go towards meaningful things, not supporting people that simply hate to work but also won't accept they won't make a living as a soundcloud rapper. You're not stealing from the rich.

No. 1451079

>>1451071
She's right..? Sorry you don't like how your mom spends your free time but that line of thinking is gross and implies people can't handle themselves? Like don't project that because your genes can't handle free time

No. 1451080

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>>1451046
your mom sounds wack, do you really want her to break her back even more after retiring? some people can't retire and wait years and years until they can so they can start living their lives. Tell your mom to stop drinking or something, it's not good for her. Also she could get a hobby and make money that way, just saying

No. 1451082

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>>1451074
whats wrong with that? most real artists cant get jobs because its infested with nepotism, corporatism and because we have been replaced by automation and cheap artists from shitty third world countries. Tired of people thinking someone wanting to work as an artist=troon hippie who wants 50k a month for art of their crappy fat poc trans steven universe ocs.

No. 1451084

>>1451082
>that pic
Oh hey I remember you and when you posted your hand on top of that book

No. 1451088

>>1451082
>whats wrong with that?
It is not viable. That simple.

No. 1451089

>>1451078
>Ideally you'd either have lower taxes so workers can actually be well compensated, or have those taxes go towards meaningful things,
We live in a world where your tax money goes to pay for pedophile politicians trips to thailand, wake up.

No. 1451090

>>1451088
>t.nonnie working 23 hours at walmart scrapping toilets

No. 1451092

>>1451082
>Tired of people thinking someone wanting to work as an artist=troon hippie who wants 50k a month for art of their crappy fat poc trans steven universe ocs.
This, there's so many other ways to make money with art, there's people who make a very good living with it too. I don't know why everyone here equate doing art with doing fan art commissions. Assuming this is so immature.

There's like at least 10 more things you can do as an artist to make a living than just drawing furry porn kek. Just think of how much of the entertainment business depend on artists and designers.

No. 1451093

>>1450997
>>1451010
Smells like bait but in case it isn't, you could learn at least to do cool illegal things that hurts big institutions, not feed off and support the addiction of people who are even worse off than you.

No. 1451096

>>1451089
Whataboutism with zero self-reflexion

No. 1451097

>>1451088
>you can't live from art
Tell that to this people
>inb4 i-it's just the lucky few people who can do that!
Yeah at this point you're having pure projection kek, sorry your dream got cut off.

No. 1451098

>>1451090
You might find it humiliating but someone is going to have to do it nonny. Having 90% of the population working as "artists" and following their dreams is simply not feasible.

No. 1451100

>>1451079
some people need to work for that structure in their lives. that shouldnt offend you unless your life also lacks structure and this is hitting close to home

No. 1451102

>>1451098
You really sound like a silly boomer here. With dream careers people not only mean art, but also plenty of other people who aren't artists end up working at wallmart out of necessity. It's not like "90%" of people working at wallmart are failed artists to begin with.

>>1451100
Yeah ok, a lot of people are like that. That doesn't mean that when you retire the only thing you'll do is drink and watch law and order. Sorry for your mom but if she really wanted to fix her life, she would enjoy her retirment and get a hobby or a side thing. It was her choice to drink to begin with.

No. 1451103

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>>1451092
companies have been pushing crappy corporate styles to people by entitled ''artists'' who paid 100k to get connections and now everyone thinks we are like that too. There are a crap ton of artists who are incredibly good, though they mostly life either off patreon, sell out to draw porn or sell drawing courses. Its a shame that 40 years ago you could see art everywhere, movie posters, magazine covers, advertisements, etc.

No. 1451105

>>1451096
what do companies and the state do for me that encourages me to sell off my life to them?

No. 1451106

>>1451097
>>you can't live from art. it's just the lucky few people who can do that!
It is the truth. At least half of these wannabe artists are going to have to clean dishes and be waitresses in chinese restaurants. If everyone worked only on what they wanted to work on, the world itself wouldn't work. If you don't accept that you are delusional.

No. 1451109

>>1451082
Exactly, what you describe is called an oversaturated market. Capitalism doesn't need 10% of its workforce to do art, nor did communism, nor did feudalism, and there's a huge chance that if capitalism ever dies we still won't need that many.

No. 1451110

>>1451106
This must be bait lmao. Clearly you know nothing about the artists in the video, just because you have a narrow minded set of beliefs it doesn't make it reality, as much as you and your boomer enviorment tells you.

No. 1451112

>>1451106
>people have to give up their dreams because we live in world that encourages working yourself to death to make the 1% richer
you better be a CEO because otherwise you are really pathetic defending that people

No. 1451116

>>1451031
The best job I've ever had, I actually created something of substance, did something important and it was minimum wage, so couldn't live off of it. It's like only the bullshit jobs, where you're demonstrably making society worse and being paid with the money of actual hardworking people, are paid living wages. If it were actually legally possible, I'd happily be a potato farmer. I'm not against labor and doing stuff with your day in and of itself, but I'm by this point against the concept of work. I wish that there was a closer connection to the labor we do and how it helps our survival. I think having such a big gap between the two, makes people depressed, because you don't get the natural dopamine hit you would've gotten from hunting and gathering or even farming, carpentry, pottery, actually doing something. Seeing the fruits of your labor. Instead we do work, but it leads to nowhere and then get addicted to random shit in our free time to fill the gaping hole. Having to wait til the end of the month to get paid and get replacement for the fruits of our labor, is too long away. Yes we have the capability to do longterm planning and being able to oversee the consequences. However evidently it's just too far away for monkeybrain, the connection between working a modern job and being paid is too far away for the dopamine to truly hit and feel fulfilled.
>>1451029
I got shit for not having interesting hobbies outside of work, or at least not interesting to them. They asked me to talk about myself for once, I did, I showed the paintings I made. Apparently they were looking for "I go to the cafe with friends" answers.

No. 1451117

>>1451109
Newsflash: no one needs artists, no one has ever needed artists, yet artists continue to thrive in their own ways. Why the fuck do you keep thinking everyone has art as their dream career anyway kek? Keep being a bootlicker, the boomer CEO's won't give you a raise either way. Idk why the fuck you have this mentality that everyone wants to do art, leave those who do alone anyway.

No. 1451119

>>1451105
You could be self-employed, even though states will still take their cuts, because they provide the whole infrastructure, corruption is another question, because most nonnies only throw out "but corruption" as an afterthought, that's not why they won't work. I really wonder where nonnies live where they think the state does literally nothing. But when you're self-employed, it also takes the onus of managing your stuff and make sure you have enough work on yourself.

No. 1451120

>>1451116
>They asked me to talk about myself for once, I did, I showed the paintings I made. Apparently they were looking for "I go to the cafe with friends" answers.
I hate when coworkers are like that lol. Most normies don't understand at all.

No. 1451121

>>1451109
i dont care what capitalism/communism needs, if you base your entire life on what other people need and how to be a ''functioning, good, useful citizen'' good for you, but not everyone wants to slave themselves for nothing.

No. 1451122

>>1451112
>>1451109
I don't know why you can't accept what is simply reality. Nobody dreams of working at Walmart, nobody dreams of being a janitor, nobody dreams of taking care of the sewer lines, but someone is going to have to do it. That thing of everyone working on what they dream of working on will NEVER happen.

No. 1451123

>>1451117
You're confusing me with someone else, the post I reacted too was literally talking about artists. Is no one taking her schizo pills today?

No. 1451124

>>1451048
The humane jobs where you can survive by working part-time are usually reserved for the people who have the right contacts (aka those who are born in the right class), so yes.

No. 1451125


No. 1451126

>>1451123
>confusing with someone else
Post I replied to:
>>>Capitalism doesn't need 10% of its workforce to do art,
also the typical "take your meds" comment, lmao

No. 1451127

>>1451119
i live in Argentina the state does literally nothing but steal and they offer me no infraestructure either, i had to buy all my shit myself and pay a crap ton of money because they were imported items.

No. 1451132

>>1451127
hola I'm also latinoamerican. I guess people really don't get how things are outside the US at all. Or they don't care.

No. 1451133

>>1451127
at least yall are still on world cup!

No. 1451134

>>1451122
dont you understand, nonnies are too special for those jobs, even if the streets flood with sewage waste and the elderly pass away without carers

No. 1451136

>>1451134
ok why don't you do those jobs then?

No. 1451137

>>1451134
Why do you want nonnies to do sewage job lmao? I thought men were the ones literally designed for that.

No. 1451138

>>1451136
i work the front desk at a hotel, i dont need a different job. any other questions?

No. 1451140

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>>1451122
you know who works at those jobs? , either teens or exploited migrants that are doing it so their children can study and be an artist if they want. Anyways, shouldnt you be scrubbing toilets and doing something useful for society?
>>1451133
kek, vamos argentina carajo!

No. 1451142

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I can't believe how many people got so triggered with this fucking thread lmao. Never change.

I thought we would be making fun of cryptobross and aliexpress resellers for being "into the grind" not whatever the fuck is happening atm

No. 1451143

>>1451137
the point is someone will have to work those jobs regardless

No. 1451145

>>1451046
I hate this argument that the ones who are actually profiting of this system love so much.
Of course people are going to feel aimless, they spent 50+ years almost every day of the week working, with barely any time and energy left to cultivate something else. It's like blaiming a malnutrished mouse you held captive for half of it's lifetime for not getting out when you open the cage door.

No. 1451146

>>1451138
go scrub a toilet or work on a sewage plant since you're so concerned about elders dying drowned in shit, you're literally sitting on your ass all day taking calls, can you really say you're working then?

No. 1451148

>>1451146
no i dont sit at my job, try again

No. 1451149

>>1451132
>anyone who disagrees with me is north american
>>1451127
The internet, road, postal service etc. etc. all operate with heavy subsidies and are infrastucture. I actually feel like I'm talking to people that got a NA education right now.

No. 1451150

>>1451143
and that someone could be you! or are you so entlitled that you won't fix the world by fixing clogged drains? like >>1451140 said, you know most people taking those jobs are exploited migrants right?

No. 1451153

>>1451150
who are you arguing with? im responding to the anon who's saying we dont need to care about those "moid jobs" because we're not men

No. 1451154

>>1451148
>not sitting at your job
Clearly that CEO bootlicking ain't working for you sister

No. 1451155

really funny to have this thread when the cow boards are full of threads on people with similar attitudes kek

No. 1451156

>>1451153
why the fuck do you want artfags to fix the sewage system then? kek you're making no sense

No. 1451157

>>1451155
read op and tell me if wanting to reform the working system is cowish

No. 1451160

>>1451140
>you know who works at those jobs? , either teens or exploited migrants that are doing it
Yes, if they want to integrate into the culture of the new country, they will have to work. That is logical, what is illogical is an argentine immigrating to Germany and being a CEO because he always dreamed of being one.
>Anyways, shouldnt you be scrubbing toilets and doing something useful for society?
I do not need to. My dad worked hard and long enough to give me a comfortable life and i do not have to work. The only thing that will happen if you nonnies join this antiwork shit is leaving your family poor and vulnerable.

No. 1451161

>>1451159
No, but your job not giving you a place to sit while spouting your typical ceo bootlicking shit is. They don't care about you. If you die they'll have a replacement for you tomorrow at 8am.

No. 1451162

>>1451154
just having a job is ceo bootlicking? please go outside. get a job even

No. 1451163

>>1451140
>Anyways, shouldnt you be scrubbing toilets and doing something useful for society
I'm so glad that stay-at-home degenerates like you think it's funny to mock people who are doing jobs like that. It's not just teens either, adults do it too. Either get a job or kys.

No. 1451165

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Honestly? I am anti work not because I want to be a neet but because I cant fucking stand being around men. I want to work in programming, it's something I enjoy while doing art on the side. I grew up being told that since at the age of 11 I was meant to give birth before 18. I grew up being told I'd never be able to be the same as a man. Seeing female dominated fields and educated women looked down upon, especially by right winged men is what depressed me. I grew up with a father who didnt believe in me, as well as my mother. I skipped classes because I was getting bullied hard while my teachers did nothing. I grew up with my mother having no achievements except me and breaking down because of it. She wanted to be a kindergarten teacher and went to college and never completed it.

I'm anti work because women working , women succeeding in education, is only "equal to men", not better than. Look at all the copefics men have given about women succeeding, how they shame women for being "over educated". Fields like biology was talked down because half of it was women. When I speak about how it was a woman who helped invented data science, I get talked down to. I hate the idea of never being equal to men, even if I do better. Im 19, but I am already spiraling because of it. How do I get over it? I dont want my achievements to only be my children. I want to do so much more than that.

No. 1451166

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>>1451142
I associate "rise and grind" with those weird guy that run three life coach and motivational businesses while having zero experience and marketing it online lol. I love the Day In My Life videos:
>wake up
>read motivation quotes from the greatest CEOs
>shower with 170% efficiency (stinky)
>drink orange juice with 200% effectiveness
>make bed
>leave for a caffé
>fuck around on laptop for an hour
>have online business meeting with potential marks
>go to gym 3x1 hour for a day
>go and pick up business boss afternoon cappuccino
>eat metal for dinner
>dream about money

No. 1451167

>>1451160
>Yes, if they want to integrate into the culture of the new country
>They have to work a denigrating job that deals with human waste and is high key risky
Jeez next time just say you want everyone to be a prostitute or something.

No. 1451169

>>1451160
Ah so you're entitled. Got it.

No. 1451171

>>1451166
Samefag, forgot to add: must be in a business suit all day, or people won't understand you're a businessman and not some blogger

No. 1451172

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>>1451149
>The internet, road, postal service etc. etc. all operate with heavy subsidies and are infrastucture.
hahahaha where the fuck do you live? when i was a child i used to live next to a dirt road and my mom would have to carry be for 5 streets so i didnt get my uniform dirty. Here are some things the beautiful ex president of my country did for me and for which i should be thankful for
>sold half of the country to the chinese
>bought crappy second hand trains from china and caused an accident in which 11 people died
>devalued the peso
>invented a trillion new taxes
>stole a crap ton of my moms/dads/aunts/uncles tax money
>used it to finance a public football TV network and other populist shit
omg nonna you are so right, i am so, so sorry that i never realized how good and wonderful my country and the state is(can i get a job in the state now? i want to get paid 5k usd for sitting on my ass all day too)

No. 1451174


No. 1451176

>>1451160
>argentine immigrating to Germany and being a CEO because he always dreamed of being one.
implying all latin american immigrants immediately do toilet scrubbing jobs. Just say you're prejudiced

No. 1451180

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>>1451120
They weren't weird paintings either, just Bob Ross tier. Great against stress. Should've been a point in my favour imo.

No. 1451181

people have to work some pretty difficult jobs
>why dont you work those exact jobs you mentioned??
i already have a full time job
>so you sit all day at your job? thats not work!!
no my job is a standing job
>you cant even sit at your job?? ceo bootlicker!!

this thread sure is something

No. 1451182

>>1451160
>I do not need to. My dad worked hard and long enough to give me a comfortable life and i do not have to work. The only thing that will happen if you nonnies join this antiwork shit is leaving your family poor and vulnerable.
kek, the fuck are you complaining about then? you are literally feeding off a culture thats dead, most of us wont be able to buy our own house or maintain our bootlicker daughters

No. 1451184

>>1451165
> I dont want my achievements to only be my children. I want to do so much more than that.
So work hard enough to leave some legacy for mankind. Staying at home and doing nothing won't help.
>>1451167
>Jeez next time just say you want everyone to be a prostitute or something.
Are you really comparing working at Walmart with being a sex worker? Someone is going to have to work at walmart anon. Whether they dream of working at walmart or not.
>>1451176
kek the anon from argentina himself confirmed this.

No. 1451185

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Imagine defending giving away 1/2 of your income every month. Of course it's easier to lash out on all the "jobless lazy people you pay with your hard earned money" and infight endlessly itt rather than focus on the actual systematic issue. We really are culturally brainwashed.

No. 1451186

>>1451181
close the tab and never come back then retard

No. 1451187

>>1451186
no ill keep making the unemployed angry i think

No. 1451188

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>>1451185
>Of course it's easier to lash out on all the "jobless lazy people you pay with your hard earned money" and infight endlessly itt rather than focus on the actual systematic issue. We really are culturally brainwashed.
This. It's because people are retarded. Will copy paste this here too

>that's just because no one is reading the fucking OP and immediately jumping into the conclusion that antiwork = neet


>In Brief: (1) The anti-work movement advocates for a work structure shift away from paid labor and toward voluntary and fulfilling work. (2) While the anti-work movement is not new, labor shifts from the pandemic have made it grow in popularity. (3) Many members of this movement joined in response to a negative workplace experience, so businesses should respond by evaluating their labor practices.

No. 1451189

>>1451181
its like you cant understand most people dont want to scrub toilets unless they are in a dire situation like migrants, and most people arent complaing about working itself but working just so the 1% can finance their child sex orgies

No. 1451190

>>1451187
Then you're just baiting.

No. 1451192

>>1451184
>work hard
Lmao yeah, just work hard and do 900000 unpaid hours overtime to impress your superior who got the job because he want to school with someone's son.

No. 1451193

>>1451187
wow, you truly are pathetic. At least us NEETs have endless amount of free time, couldnt imagine being a wagey and wasting my weekend bootlicking millionaires.

No. 1451195

>>1451189
>most people arent complaing about working itself but working just so the 1% can finance their child sex orgies
the people ive been replying to are actually the 1st

No. 1451196

>>1451193
you're just replying to yourself dude

No. 1451197

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>>1451184
Yes, that's what I want. I am just so scared of proving people right about me being too stupid. I just recently quit my job because my woman boss ragged on me because she has a daughter my age. There was a male coworker (he was the only one in this job) and he was late everyday, and she let him go. I was late once, and she yelled at me and told me to come even though I called her and told her I was fighting with my mom. I'm the tallest and youngest, so she relies on me for the heavy labor. It just depresses me that even when I do good, even when I work hard, because I am a woman, especially a young one, I am not taken seriously. I cant even look men in the eye because I just hate knowing that they are thinking I got this job due to diversity instead of my skills. I dont want to not work. I have never been believed in my entire life, and working has helped me believe in myself a little bit. I love seeing my strings of codes done right, and I like helping people. I am just afraid that the only thing I can do is have children, when I always wanted to do more.

No. 1451199

>>1451195
literally where?

No. 1451201

>>1451181
For real.
>>1451182
I'm not complaining. If someone wants to die poor, that's their problem. But this idea of ​​working only on what you dream of is stupid.
>most of us wont be able to buy our own house or maintain our bootlicker daughters
By being a neet wanna be "artist" probably not.
>>1451192
Working hard doesn't mean working for someone else. You can start your own company or something like that. You just want an excuse to keep being a parasite.

No. 1451202

>>1451184
I didn't say wallmart in my post though
>kek the anon from argentina himself confirmed this.
People from latin america not only immigrate to scrub toilets. There's more to life than that. And I've heard of succesful cases of latin americans having great jobs in europe too. Jobs in industries as managment force.

No. 1451203

>>1451201
>By being a neet wanna be "artist" probably not.
Did a neet artist fuck your alcoholic mother or what?
>You can start your own company or something like that.
You know a lot of artists eventually start their own companies too right? Selling art.

No. 1451206

>>1451188
Good luck trying to get this thread back on track

No. 1451207

>>1451201
even if you work overtime you wont be able to pay for a house nowadays. The richest of my moms friends who had to work even during the pandemic on Johnson and Johnson lives in a literal one bedroom shoebox, meanwhile the faggot CEO can pay for plane tickets to vacation, erhm ehem come here and congratule her for working even during the pandemic. You are a NEET too who never had to work in their life eihter, so its truly lame that you are bootlicking like this.

No. 1451210

>>1451201
I'm neither a neet nor the original anon, I'm just sick and tired of the "just work hard and you'll be successful :))" mindset, because 80% of times that is not the reason for success, it's connections, available resources that your average person will never have and luck.

No. 1451211

>>1451203
she said her father is rich, kek. She tries to cape for ceos and workers but she never worked in her life and thinks you can just wake up, decide to start your business and that it will instantly be proffitable.

No. 1451212

>>1451185
You can "work" and be paid with other people's hard earned tax- or pension money, for basically doing nothing, having to stretch out maybe 8 hours of real work to 40 hours, then having to pretend to work the rest of the time (which is unironically somehow more difficult than actually working, this is where the endless meetings which go nowhere come from) and still be seen as more valuable than some NEET. Of course the ones with connections and the right background don't even have to pretend to work, you only see them at the office maybe 3 hours a month and they still get paid 10 times as much as you. You don't even get the chance to work yourself up, because the new policy is to treat workers like disposable batteries.
I'd rather do actual meaningful work and produce something of value, but that doesn't receive enough payment or is becoming literally illegal. I hate the service economy I hate the service economy I hate the service economy.

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>>1451197
I should mention, he brought a flask to work everyday when we were surrounded by kids and whatnot. I came up with a system, I did event plannings and even made graduation diplomas on my own. Her daughter worked with us and my boss let her get away with a lot. I took a course for programming on the side and even made my own website. I wanted to retake math from highschool and asked my mom and she gave me a chuckle and thought that it was too late. I worked since 16, had male customers who made comments, but I also met a lot of customers who I adored. I loved the kids, I loved helping them and I loved helping elderly men and women at my jobs. I loved the idea of creating things as well, which was why I liked programming so much. I could not do much, but when I made customers happy, it made me believe in myself more. But I am terrified still. I apologize for rambling on so much, I am just a wreck about this.

No. 1451214

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Just ignore the fucking bait nonnies. This person clearly just wants to infight and is portraying everyone who disagrees with her as a neet artist kek. Sad day to be a CEO bootlicker, clearly she saw the word "antiwork" and got so triggered that she had to shit on the entire thread without reading the OP.

No. 1451216

>>1451206
don't worry it always happens like this, seen worse threads get back on track before.

No. 1451217

>>1451212
>but that doesn't receive enough payment or is becoming literally illegal
What work are you talking about?

No. 1451218

>>1451214
she said she doesnt even work because her father is loaded, she's a giganeet becky.

No. 1451219

>>1451211
she's probably also very salty that she can't draw for shit kek

No. 1451223

>>1451212
preach nonna

No. 1451224

>>1451219
at least we are working towards achieving your dream imagine giving up because ''it doesnt make me useful according to John McBillionaire''

No. 1451227

>>1451202
>And I've heard of succesful cases of latin americans having great jobs in europe too
Yeah because they worked hard in their country and went to university or something like that before they got the job. If a Latino enters Europe without ever having worked in anything wanting to be a CEO, it simply will not happen.
>>1451203
>You know a lot of artists eventually start their own companies too right? Selling art.
The minority. That's why I say that not everyone can work with what they like, someone will have to be a dishwasher.
>>1451207
This entire post is just self-sabotage. If you think that no one can be successful at their job nowadays, I don't know what to tell you.
>>1451211
>you can just wake up, decide to start your business
But you can.
>>1451214
To think that anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a bait is stupid.

No. 1451231

>>1451227
>But you can.
10/10 bait, I hate sheltered richfags so fucking much.

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>>1451227
>This entire post is just self-sabotage. If you think that no one can be successful at their job nowadays, I don't know what to tell you.
we are literally more poor than years ago, but of course an entitled brat who lives off daddy's money wouldnt understand that.

No. 1451236

>>1451227
>the minority
I knew you would say that KEK, it also is very funny that you contradict yourself by saying that you can just wake up and start a business.

No. 1451237

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A world where everyone will support themselves doing their dream job is not a reality, or by that point technology will be so advanced, it'll wipe our asses for us. So can we just make fun of "corporate evangelist" employees, bad bosses and discuss how even non-"dreamlike" jobs can fit into the life of a human instead?

No. 1451238

>>1451227
>To think that anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a bait is stupid.
what is this post then
>>1451187

No. 1451239

>>1451237
lol you are getting destroyed and want to change the subject

No. 1451240

>>1451217
Farming. No joke. It's becoming near impossible to be a farmer.

No. 1451242

Bootlicking nonny was probably living off her rich german daddy's money until he told her art is not a real job and now she spends her days defending CEOs on lolcow like a true autist with a failed art venture and resents every other artists out there that is actually making it. Unless you have a personal reason to get triggered at people living from art, no one seethes this much for this long.

No. 1451245

>>1451240
Holy shit this. Ted K was so right.

No. 1451246

>>1451227
entitled, sheltered, and low key racist

No. 1451249

>>1451239
I'm not that rich girl or neet or whatever she is, it's called being "on-topic". Also the Office Space is a pretty funny "anti-work" movie if there's anyone who hasn't seen it before

No. 1451252

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>>1451245
and if you live in the wrong area, you can't even safely grow stuff in your own garden anymore if you have the privilege of having one in the first place. Thanks to DuPont. Which isn't a problem in just the US btw. I just want to faaarm

No. 1451253

>>1451240
I guess cows are as dry irl as they are in this website

No. 1451254

>>1451252
same, i have a very small backyard and i like farming but its not enough to substain myself would love to own chickens in the future

No. 1451256

>>1451239
>>1451238
Not my posts.
>>1451242
You know I'm right and you're coping by trying to offend me.

No. 1451258

>>1451252
You can't plant a few vegetables in your garden in the USA?

No. 1451260

>>1451256
>You know I'm right
nta but if you are responding to 5 different anons then you arent so right

No. 1451263

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>>1451253
They have been charged with the crime of farting too much. I agree that it's bad for the climate and all that, but they've killed off all the small business farms over the past few decades, leaving only the large factory farms left, which are causing more problems than the small ones ever have done in the first place.
>>1451258
I'm not a burger, but it depends on the area. Places around factories of as an example DuPont are warned that you shouldn't eat vegetables from your garden, because the pollution is off the charts.

No. 1451264

>Not everyone who is antiwork is completely against working or earning money, but hustle and grind culture is extremely criticized.
smh for someone who keeps talking about how much she loves to work she surely didn't bother reading the OP

No. 1451266

>>1451260
Because of the large population of neets and wannabe artists here. If any nonny here commented this antiwork shit on any serious company, the people at that company would laugh in her face. This is the kind of topic that only happens online.

No. 1451267

>>1451263
>but they've killed off all the small business farms over the past few decades, leaving only the large factory farms left, which are causing more problems than the small ones ever have done in the first place.
Holy shit… is this what veganism caused or whatever?
>Places around factories of as an example DuPont are warned that you shouldn't eat vegetables from your garden, because the pollution is off the charts.
That honestly makes sense, now I wonder how safe the place I live in is

No. 1451269

>>1451266
>Because of the large population of neets and wannabe artists here.
You keep saying this as if everyone ITT is a neet artist, seriously what is even your problem? You're beating a dead horse.
>If any nonny here commented this antiwork shit on any serious company, the people at that company would laugh in her face.
Isn't it good that they don't work then? kek

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>>1451266
>calls people neets
>she's a neet herself

No. 1451271

Working is inevitable but it sure is a lot more tolerable when the job and its conditions are not awful. The next step I believe is reducing the work week to 4 days instead of 5 (but with the same pay). I heard the trials they were doing for this in the UK ended and the results were positive, with some companies saying they were even keeping the 4 day week.

No. 1451273

>>1451266
Aren't you supposed to be at work? it's the middle of the day in Germany, or are you telling me you're wasting the company's precious time on lolcow?
>If any nonny here commented this antiwork shit on any serious company, the people at that company would laugh in her face.
Things need to be discussed, the unfair workplace needs to be discussed, unions need to be discussed, bad managment needs to be discussed. You're the only one bringing NEET artists over and over, it's either a projection or you're very triggered. Literally go read the OP again or go bitch in the NEET containment thread

No. 1451274

>>1451266
Not everyone who disagrees with you is unemployed.

No. 1451275

>>1451273
she's a neet herself she said so above. So she's either a salty failed artist or her daddy is some CEO and its angry that we called him pedophile, lol

No. 1451276

>>1451267
Has nothing to do with veganism, but with EU subsidies and regulations, which have encouraged/forced small farmers to sell out to big farmers. So you get these massive monopolies which are concentrated in one area, causing problems. Instead of having the animals more spread out and not all in large quantities on one spot, being disease vectors and poop machines. It has also actually increased animal cruelty. It's bad for the environment, public health, animal welfare, everything. The situation isn't as bad in countries like Austria iirc, because the small farmers have been able to pivot and weren't forced as much to sell out to the big companies. Geography has a lot to do with it, culture, but in the end I do think small farmers have suffered EU-wide. It's basically the fault of capitalism and neoliberalism. Back in my grandma's day, almost everyone had some backyard chickens or geese, a fruit tree here and there. Which has a very different impact from keeping millions of chickens in one spot stinking up the place and causing disease outbreaks.

No. 1451277

>>1451273
>Is such a NEET that she doesn't know it's Sunday today.

No. 1451278

>>1451273
Haha fuck you nonnie I'm in Germany too and you scared me for a second, I thought it was Monday.

No. 1451280

>>1451224
kek this. Imagine centering your entire livehood on what John McBillionare thinks is useful.
>>1451277
Hotels also work on sunday and she said she's a receptionist or whatever the fuck.

No. 1451281

>>1451275
>its angry that we called her father a pedophile
Okay you guys are just mad at me for saying the reality. No wonder you all didn't get a good job, this would require conversations skills and civility.

No. 1451283

>>1451281
This is like the most genuinely autistic comeback post I've ever read in this website, and not even in the funny way.

No. 1451284

>>1451283
KEK for real down to the stubbornness

No. 1451286

>>1451281
>>1451283
Can you both shut the fuck up please?

No. 1451287

>>1451281
>>1451284
get a job and stop munching off your daddy

No. 1451288

>>1451281
>being a receptionist is a good job
Lol. I work in customer service and any position that deals with live customers is awful. That is not a good job.

No. 1451289

>>1451286
don't pop a vein here
>>1451287
say that to her, she's the one with the rich german CEO daddy

No. 1451291

>>1451283
I didn't meant it as a insult or a comeback. If you guys can't have a normal discussion without saying insults like that >>1451287 just because i exposed a small part of my life then that explains why you don't work or work in crappy jobs.

No. 1451293

>>1451291
you are telling people to go scrub toilets instead of trying to follow their ''unrealistic'' dream careers meanwhile you munch off your rich daddy, you deserve nothing but mockery for being a bootlicker NEET.

No. 1451303

>>1451252
>>1451258
>>1451263
didn't we have a gardening/farming thread, what happened to that ?

No. 1451306

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You can work a "good job" and still be anti-work and want more in life. It's just that it makes you depressed. Which is why most people working "good jobs" which still don't fulfill them because it's not compatible with monkey brain, will cope and constantly look down on others, because they have no other choice. They tell themselves that it's okay, because at least they can use the money to consoom and fuel their addictions, their soma, staving off the depression for a little longer. Working bullshit jobs which are seen by society as "good jobs", is soul destroying and you constantly have to cope to get by. Being fully aware that you're not doing anything good for society and that you're just as much of a leech, is not sustainable. Which is why there's such a large burnout epidemic and all these corporate resiliency trainings you have to follow.
Even jobs which technically aren't bullshit jobs, turnout to be bullshit jobs, because you're just fucking powerless and can't actually provide anyone with a sense of justice, since the whole system is rigged and patriarchy is definitely fucking systemic. Too many pedo scrotes in high places.
I just want to earn enough money to fuck off to another country and farm god damnit. I want it to be legal to pick berries and not that something as retarded in this neoliberal hellscape exists where you have to pay 50 just to be able to pick berries in a pre-approved section of forest with the rest of the wageslaves who are on the brink of burning out, having your hand held.

No. 1451307

>>1451291
Girl you are a rich neet leeching off your father while shitting on people who complain about being exploited, calling them neets. Use some of daddys money and get a therapist for that level of projection.

No. 1451311

>>1451307
Do you need to keep posting the same thing over and over?

No. 1451314

>>1451311
You are talking to several people.

No. 1451315

>>1451306
I'm from a 3rd world country, have autism, am in a dire situation, and need money, but I still want to get paid for what I studied in college. I feel so upset when I see my brother and peers getting paid for the same thing I got a degree for. It's normal to want more in life. I don't think retail jobs are bad, I think they do have dignity. I just think it would be a shame if I studied for nothing. I also had a teacher who despite being clearly on the fringe spectrum of functional vs non funcional autism he still got a very good livable job that I want for myself. It's ok to dream, shoot high, and not give up. Imo.

No. 1451323

>>1451314
Ok, well maybe if someone else has just posted some variation of "bootlicker neet munch rich CEO father pedophile failed artist scrub toilets projection therapy", you might consider not posting it again immediately.

No. 1451326

>>1451323
this is an imageboard girl.

No. 1451328

>>1451323
then maybe stop being all those things, lol

No. 1451329

>>1451306
I work in the field I studied for, but in a low responsibility position, and my job is still bullshit, even though what I do does have "value", it's just barely visible for anyone not in the field, and not prestigious. Yet my job consists of great stretches of time where I do nothing but sit between two phases of my job, because I have zero autonomy on picking up assignments, and have to wait for my boss to send shit to me. I could do weeks worth of my job in a single week, but that'd overwhelm my boss, so I'm just here fucking bored and browsing job postings.

No. 1451341

>>1451315
ayrt I work in the job I studied for, only to find out that I studied a complete fiction which people actually have so much faith in to keep society together and think actually is there to protect them or help them and not just rich pedo scrotes. It's paper fiction, nothing works in practice, it's being kept together with metaphorical duct tape and faith. So I don't want to do this for life. Wanting to be a humble farmer isn't shooting low and giving up, I want to free myself from my stupid decisions.

No. 1451345

>>1451341
lawyer?

No. 1451346

>>1451323
If you don't want people to call out your lack of self awareness, you shouldn't spent the entire thread displaying it.

No. 1451353

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>>1451345
Doesn't even pay as much as people think it does and makes it difficult to move countries, since you can't immediately work the same job there. I'm a retard.

No. 1451387

>>1451080
It takes up half of your waking day. 8x3 = 24, you've got 8 hours working, 8 hours technically not working and 8 hours sleeping.

No. 1451397

>>1451387
8 works being exhausted after work and having to do more shit at home like cleaning and groceries.

No. 1451410

>>1451387
Why should I give up half my waking hours when all I get in return is working until I literally drop dead of old age? There's no point working hard if you already know you'll never get to retire.

No. 1451417

>>1451397
That's for non-commuters too, because a lot of people spend 1-2 hours just getting to work and going home.

No. 1451419

>>1450990
Not all of us are so privileged.

No. 1451426

>>1451410
>>1451397
I can't tell if you guys are arguing with me, I just wanted to point out the image is incorrect kek.

Anyways I have about 5 hours free/prep time an evening once you take out morning prep and commute and I balance it by having 2 cooking dinner evenings on Monday and Wednesday, and do 30 minutes of cleaning which is enough for upkeep. I do a deep clean one weekend day every 2 months or so. Then the day after the cooking day I just chill, reheat the leftovers and work on a hobby or watch a movie or something. Then on the remaining day I try see a friend. It's a nice balance for now between house maintenance, cooking, working on myself and socialising all within the workweek without getting burned out on any one facet. It's also good to plan ahead so you can visit the grocery store etc on the way home from work so as not to waste time.

I was more exhausted doing nothing after work and sort of went into a negative spiral because my time was really wasted after work and I only considered the 2 days I had completely free as the days to do something, so found the majority of my spent time worthless. I'm not agreeing with the amount of time we generally have to work but at the end of the day if you do nothing and complain the only one who really suffers is you.

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Okay, let's be fair. Give some good reasons that one should NOT live on neetbux. The "Be good to society and contribute" argument fails if you live in the sort of society that fucks us all over, exploits women and rewards the most evil scrotes repeatedly.

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>>1451006
When I first started I used to click randomly on work pages to look like i'm busy (office admin) and in the past 2 months I have quite literally not given a fuck. Whenever I'm done with my work (usually about 2 or 3 hours into the work day) I straight up watch documentaries on my phone or go on reddit on my work computer. I don't care if they flag me. I ask quite literally everyone if they need help with anything I am constantly told no so it's not like I'm ignoring anyone. And when someone does need help I am eager for something to do. I agree though, 40 hours is fucking dumb.

My position is hybrid, so whenever I know I'll be working from home I purposely finish everything needed for that day ahead of time because it's easier on the three monitors at work and then I straight up just play video games or read the whole day while wiggling my mouse and occasionally answer to emails and teams messages. I have 0 issues with exploiting the system.

No. 1451441

>>1451428
There is no guarantee the neetbux programs will continue for all eternity (or as long as you live), and if they get cut off you will be royally fucked. And for many people it's too little money to live on. Do as you please of course, but it's not for me because at least here it looks like the welfare society is about to collapse at any moment.

No. 1451444

>>1451428
>society that fucks us all over, exploits women
So get out of your room and contribute to changing society.
> b-but society will not change!
Decades ago women couldn't even vote. Contributing to society is also preventing the exploitation of women.

No. 1451453

>>1451444
You can live on NEETbux and also do activist work, though. In fact, that'd free up your time to contribute to changing society rather than perpetuating its grind.

No. 1451455

>>1451444
How is contributing to a society built on exploitation going to relieve women from their exploitation by the society? Lmao

No. 1451461

>>1451444
nta but have you ever worked in politics or actually tried to help women in deep shit as an actual job? There's nothing more blackpilling than continuously running into roadlboack after roadblock and being constantly confronted with how fucked women are. You can do more for women in activism outside of work, outside of the system, than in jobs where you're supposedly trying to help women, while playing along with the system which is rigged against them. What was the quote?
>For the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. They may allow us temporarily to beat him at his own game, but they will never enable us to bring about genuine change. And this fact is only threatening to those women who still define the master's house as their only source of support.

No. 1451467

File: 1671377764898.jpg (753.15 KB, 1664x930, poker.jpg)

How difficult is it to make a living playing poker?

No. 1451469

>>1451453
I know of families where one's a high-earning professional, so the spouse can use their energy and time to do charity work or work in non-profit fields that wouldn't support their lifestyle alone. But let's be honest, no NEET-chans here are doing transformative social work.

No. 1451470

can we make fun of hashtag girlboss grindset shit now or what

No. 1451473

>>1451470
idk what the fuck I'm posting I'm just tired of the same stupid conversation sorry

No. 1451482

>>1451453
Yes girl. Neets can do online activist. Irl people are gonna see you and furries as the same thing. Im talking about irl activist.
>>1451455
If the women of the past thought that activism was not worth doing because it will never work, we nonnies today would not even be able to use imageboards and would be worried about having 5 children.
>>1451461
>You can do more for women in activism outside of work, outside of the system, than in jobs where you're supposedly trying to help women, while playing along with the system which is rigged against them.
You don't necessarily need to work at mc donalds did you know? Y ' all act like no one works in NGOs or feminist organizations. One thing that won't help women is being a neet and doing nothing all day but complaining on the internet.

No. 1451483

People already hate work culture that has creeped into having to be available 0-24 online, and react to messages coming in outside work hours, and I feel like we still have it good. Soon The Internet of Things+biometrics will literally track your position, posture, movement of your eyes, time spent talking about non-professional things, mood, it'll be true surveillance work culture. For it to not come true, all workers would need to stand up united when it first starts to be widely applied, and I don't see that happening.

No. 1451489

>>1451483
China already has stuff like this. Companies eploy the use of "Desk cameras" to ensure their employees stay on task.

No. 1451492

>>1451482
I'm not a neet, I'm literally a retard who thought she could make a difference by working in the system, but I can't. Oh yeah I got a woman a no contact order, but it doesn't fucking matter if he can just remove his doorbell and not receive it and so the police still won't do anything about the fucking stalking.

No. 1451495

>>1451470
>>1451473
This is all the equivalent of the sigma/alpha male and patrick batemen meme except these girls are more deserving of those titles than most moids could ever hope to. Women winning and being healthy will never be something to look down on, shame on you anon.

No. 1451502

>>1451473
Doesn't belong in this thread, most of them don't work.

No. 1451506

>>1451502
NTA but they do promote the hustle grind culture

No. 1451508

>>1451470
I didn't find most of these too bad, apart from the "u can dewit" speech. The actual professionals didn't really tell people to hustle and grind, it's the women who do dropshipping and reselling chinese crap that portray themselves as genius businesswomen

No. 1451515

>>1451470
At this point I would fistfight the chinese trash dropshippers and thrift store resellers if I met them irl. Every fucking website is littered with their trash, in every country, even the second hand ones. Just look at the absolute state of amazon where you type in one term and get the same product 50 times with different shop names.

>>1451506
Kinda, but like the nonna above said, they're mostly aimed at teens.

No. 1451529

>>1451515
ngl I had some schadenfreude when I heard that a lot of fellow zoomers (mostly scrotes) are in trouble because they decided to put all their money into crypto. Or how they are finally cracking down on the dropship scams (where people constantly get broken overpriced products promoted by online influencers, or it doesn't even arrive). I remember constantly being harassed and called retarded for not doing it too.

No. 1451536

>>1451387
>>1451397
We should only work 6 hour days. You can be very productive in 6 hours and it wont eat up your entire day and leave you exhausted after. I used to work 9-12 hour days 5-6 days a week, and it broke me. On my feet all day in a bakery with no breaks because it was too busy. I did it for only a year.

No. 1451555

>>1451529
I used to work at a restaurant where nearly all the moid severs invested in tesla, crypto etc and bragged about making 2k that day, but I doubted they had any real money.

No. 1451556

>>1451428
Burger pls

No. 1451557

File: 1671383134820.jpeg (2.02 MB, 2685x2595, 6A9623F8-7EB5-4FB9-A121-69956C…)

>>1451428
I used to live on NEETbux in my old country. It gave benefits but it would fuck with my inheritance which would be worth millions when the worst day in my life happens. I’d rather get a job because it’s better to have my own independence than spend days at home depressed.



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